IRC log for #zaurus on 20160224

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13:18.54VartiWorkre
15:36.46VartiWorksomething I always wanted to ask: why does, most of the times, oesf.org resolve to that url123.info page when it's loaded for the first time?
15:51.57TomoeVartiWork: ohrly
15:52.03Tomoe'most of the times'?
15:52.08Tomoecan you gif more details pls
15:54.58Tomoeok
15:55.05TomoeVartiWork: it's not oesf
15:55.09Tomoejust the forums
15:55.10Tomoeright?
15:55.23VartiWorkyes
15:55.47Tomoethe forum is running on invision power board
15:55.51VartiWorkwww.oesf.org/forum
15:55.57Tomoeand the version they run is vulnerable
15:56.00Tomoeso got autohax'd
15:56.07VartiWorkaha
15:56.25VartiWorkcan you reproduce this problem as well?
15:56.26Tomoetheir forum database has been compromised
15:56.40Tomoenot to the fullest
15:56.53Tomoecuz that site is host-blocked on my home network
15:57.01Tomoecan't be arsed to turn off to check
15:57.15VartiWorkaha... so you anyway see a blocked page
15:57.23VartiWorkinstead of the forums
15:57.24Tomoeno it just timeouts
15:57.26Tomoewhitepage
15:57.30VartiWorkok
15:57.35Tomoeif you have nothing like this
15:57.40Tomoethe virus they run
15:57.52Tomoesets the cookie on your pc
15:58.02Tomoeso once you refresh the original link it should work
15:58.12Tomoethis is part of its detection avoidance protokal
15:58.12VartiWorkaha
15:58.25Tomoeheh
15:58.33TomoeVartiWork: the other interesting thing from that is
15:58.38Tomoesince they have compromised the db
15:58.40VartiWorkI'm looking if this has been already notified in the forums
15:58.42Tomoethey also have the user data
15:58.47Tomoeso depending on how it's stored
15:58.59Tomoeand I don't have much trust in admins there, considering the breach
15:59.11Tomoeit's possible the passwords are stored in cleartext or unsalted hash
15:59.16Tomoeso relatively easily recoverable
15:59.21VartiWorkI don't have any sensible data there
15:59.27Tomoenobody does lol
15:59.33VartiWorkheh true
15:59.41Tomoebut this is a vector for password reuse exploits
15:59.49Tomoeie try the username:pass set on other sites
16:00.11Tomoeok found something for you to read
16:00.16Tomoehttps://revisium.com/en/kbe/infected_ipb_and_vbulletin.html
16:00.19VartiWorkI always try to put as few info as possible when I register on any forum
16:00.20Tomoethis is it
16:00.26Tomoeyeah yeah that's fine
16:00.31TomoeI'm talking about password reuse only
16:00.55Tomoemost people fuck up with this
16:02.35Tomoeoh
16:02.41Tomoedb infection is not the only vector
16:02.57Tomoeit's possible to infect the cached copy of the template
16:03.05Tomoeso the actual db might not be compromised
16:07.23VartiWorkand I *always* have a different password for every site
16:08.38VartiWorkis oesf.org maintained at all?
16:14.14VartiWork115 user(s) active in the past 15 minutes Active Users 110 guests, 5 members, 0 anonymous members
16:14.31Tomoedoubt it
16:14.32Tomoelol
16:14.43VartiWorkthe user's database should be cleaned as well
16:14.57Tomoestatus of people not giving fux: CONFIRMED
16:15.29VartiWorkwell, I care :)
16:15.39Tomoe17:07 @  VartiWork | and I *always* have a different password for every site
16:15.47Tomoethat's commendable
16:15.50Tomoeeven I don't do it
16:15.51Tomoelol
16:16.36VartiWorkmuch to the annoyance of my wife
16:16.38TomoeI don't use same passes for sensitive stuff and for lame forums tho
16:16.42Tomoelol
16:16.43Tomoewife'd
16:17.11Tomoethere's a small group of forums I participated in early 2000s where I have same username:pass combo
16:17.25Tomoebut it's like trackers n stuff
16:17.27VartiWork"oh, take a look from your FB account from my smartphone" "..." "sorry, I don't remember the password"
16:17.51Tomoeyou're just paranoid your wife will break into yo stuff and find your cheating detailz
16:17.54Tomoeamirite.
16:18.00VartiWorklol no
16:18.36Tomoelul
16:18.40Tomoehttp://www.ebay.de/itm/Commodore-C64-Streichholzschachtel-Matchbox-Sammelobjekt-/172078635073
16:18.43Tomoewant.
16:19.03VartiWorkI don't let check my FB/emails only the weeks before its birthday, otherwise I don't care
16:19.23Tomoesentence: UNPARSABLE
16:19.33VartiWorkow
16:20.03VartiWorkI should print that sentence on a t-shirt, take a photo and post it on engrish.com
16:20.52VartiWorkI meant that I don't allow her to check my FB/emails accounts only when her birthday is approaching
16:21.25VartiWorkgifts ideas requests from friends and so on
16:21.42VartiWorkthat matchbox is great
16:22.14VartiWorkit would be cool to have a set of miniboxes reproducing old 8bit computer's boxes
16:24.21TomoeVartiWork: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:150957
16:24.22Tomoe=P
16:24.40Tomoealso: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:711938
16:24.44Tomoeand http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:539113
16:24.46VartiWorkah yes, seen that, cute
16:24.49Tomoeand http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:575575
16:24.56VartiWorkbut I want one that actually WORKS, too
16:25.33VartiWorkPET <3
16:27.52Tomoewell the 3rd link is actually a raspberry pi case
16:27.54Tomoeso...
16:28.47VartiWorkthe difficult part would be to make a tiny working keyboard I guess
16:29.04Tomoejust rip the keys out of your z
16:29.07Tomoelol
16:29.23VartiWorkargh no
16:29.34Tomoe=D
16:29.34VartiWorkanyway, I was thinking of something much tinier
16:29.47Tomoehow would you have a working keybo on it then
16:29.54Tomoeto peck on it with stylus?
16:29.55Tomoelol
16:30.12VartiWorka keyboard you could use only with a toothpick :D
16:30.18Tomoere: tiny
16:30.22VartiWorkexactry
16:30.25Tomoedo you know about ESP8266
16:30.26Tomoe?
16:30.47VartiWorkyou won't be able to play arcade games on it, but for text adventures it would be perfect
16:30.48VartiWorkno
16:30.58Tomoeit's a relatively recent chip
16:31.05Tomoemade by some random chinese company
16:31.17Tomoeit was meant to be used as serial2wifi adapter
16:31.25Tomoefor adding to electronics projects
16:31.41Tomoebut people figured out how to use the actual cpu in it and to use the pins it has
16:31.48Tomoeso there's a lot of activity in making stuff for it
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16:31.52Tomoeit's really low powered
16:32.06Tomoespeed wise not that bad, like 60/120MHz iirc
16:32.36Tomoebut it has like 160kb total ram
16:33.07Tomoethe main reason why it's popular is that it costs 1.7$
16:33.10Tomoeshipping included
16:33.14Tomoeso people use it a lot
16:33.28Tomoeanyhow some guy made a 6502 cpu simulator for it recently
16:33.34Tomoeand someone else started modding and adding to that
16:33.43Tomoeturning it into a c64 emulator
16:33.44Tomoelol
16:34.25VartiWorkso, basically it's a new home computer hehe
16:34.49Tomoething is the thingy doesn't have video out
16:34.50Tomoelol
16:35.14VartiWorkno need for that
16:35.49Tomoeso it actually serves the video
16:35.52Tomoeover wifi
16:36.07Tomoesets up a tiny webserver and displays c64's video as a html5 webpage
16:38.27VartiWorkclever
16:38.45Tomoesome guy actually wrote code that generates ntsc rf signal on it
16:38.46VartiWorkhttp://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=34441&pid=282325&st=0&#entry282325
16:38.51Tomoeso maybe it could be combined with the c64 code
16:39.00Tomoegetting you a full c64 on a postage stamp sized device
16:39.06Tomoethat costs 1 eur
16:39.08Tomoelol
16:39.40VartiWorkI guess it would be too demanding
16:40.01VartiWork120 MHz won't be enough for a complete C64 emulator
16:40.43VartiWorkI remember that the SID chip alone required a 300 MHz CPU to be emulated fully
16:41.11VartiWorkI think it was a requirement of the sidplay2 library
16:42.20Tomoenah
16:42.28Tomoesid stuff is overrated
16:42.36Tomoe'hurrr cant emulate it well, it's unique!!!!'
16:42.57Tomoein the worst case you can just make wave samples of its sounds and use those
16:44.10VartiWorkhard to do so, with all the modulation and filtering capabilities
16:44.25VartiWorkof the chip
16:44.45VartiWorknot counting the (ab)use of its undocumented registers
16:45.07VartiWorklater
16:48.49Tomoestorage is cheap now.
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