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| 08:32.24 | VartiWork | morning |
| 08:36.53 | Tomoe | hy2u |
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| 09:22.14 | VartiWork | moin Tomoe |
| 09:27.51 | Tomoe | moin'd |
| 13:44.39 | VartiWork | infobot still has a message about orkut (try /msg infobot orkut) |
| 13:46.16 | VartiWork | and infobot is still on #openzaurus, all alone there :( |
| 13:48.31 | VartiWork | #angstrom is still alive though |
| 13:57.35 | VartiWork | oh my god, this is RoboHon, Sharp's latest phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQtIlxe_ZkY |
| 13:57.59 | VartiWork | totemo, totemo, totemo kawaii desu! |
| 14:05.42 | Tomoe | lol |
| 14:05.45 | Tomoe | ghey as fuk |
| 14:07.30 | VartiWork | I love it, or at least the child inside me loves it :) |
| 14:08.29 | Tomoe | yeah sure |
| 14:08.33 | Tomoe | but still ghey as fuk |
| 14:08.42 | Tomoe | I don't mean cuz of cuteness, I mean cuz of clumziness |
| 14:08.46 | VartiWork | I bet my older son would also love it... before crushing it in 1000 pieces of course |
| 14:09.02 | Tomoe | that projector alone would make battery life be 30 min max |
| 14:09.13 | Tomoe | add the stepper motors etc |
| 14:09.23 | VartiWork | probably |
| 14:09.31 | VartiWork | it's a trendsetter though |
| 14:10.02 | VartiWork | the first of a very long line of multi functional small robots |
| 14:10.32 | Tomoe | how the fuck is this a 'robot' |
| 14:10.43 | Tomoe | it has no 'robot' functions |
| 14:10.48 | Tomoe | just 'wiggle dem armz' |
| 14:10.52 | Tomoe | and 'unfold legz' |
| 14:11.05 | Tomoe | that's 1995 nokia level of hardware interaction |
| 14:11.06 | Tomoe | lol |
| 14:11.49 | VartiWork | indeed |
| 14:12.46 | Tomoe | I have a nanoprojector like that |
| 14:12.52 | Tomoe | a camera with integrated projector |
| 14:12.59 | Tomoe | it is not as simple to use as that |
| 14:13.06 | VartiWork | it aims to impress more on the emotional level, rather than on the functional/usefulness one |
| 14:13.08 | Tomoe | it's like 10 lumen |
| 14:13.11 | Tomoe | yeah sure I know |
| 14:13.14 | Tomoe | I mean I lived in japan |
| 14:13.20 | Tomoe | so I know what they like and how they feel |
| 14:13.22 | Tomoe | just saying |
| 14:13.30 | Tomoe | this is not a really good product from tech side |
| 14:13.46 | VartiWork | no, nothing special indeed |
| 14:14.09 | VartiWork | but still I'm sold on it :) |
| 14:14.35 | VartiWork | I must have been a japanese person in my previous life lol |
| 14:15.25 | VartiWork | I bet the products which will follow will be way more interesting, can't wait to see them |
| 14:16.09 | Tomoe | nowai |
| 14:16.14 | Tomoe | slab of glass = forever |
| 14:19.05 | VartiWork | what do you mean? |
| 14:19.10 | VartiWork | btw "$1,595 up front price tag plus a monthly subscription" heh |
| 14:19.33 | Tomoe | I mean that the current pinnacle of phone design evolution is featureless glass slab |
| 14:19.36 | Tomoe | with metal sides |
| 14:19.45 | Tomoe | and it's hard to improve on simplicity and beauty of that |
| 14:20.01 | Tomoe | any kind of physical interface you add to it takes away from the smoothness of design |
| 14:23.39 | VartiWork | you mean a phone which, when turned off, looks just like a slab of glass? |
| 14:25.17 | Tomoe | VartiWork: this is my current phone |
| 14:25.18 | Tomoe | http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/118183-image/iOcean-X8.jpg |
| 14:25.45 | VartiWork | ok |
| 14:25.56 | VartiWork | that seems to be the trend lately |
| 14:26.41 | Tomoe | the only other trend that seems workable is voice-only interface which will make for a no-device |
| 14:26.47 | Tomoe | ie something that's hidden |
| 14:26.47 | VartiWork | but IMHO tactile feedback is also important, and that has been left behind in the phone->smartphone switch |
| 14:27.04 | Tomoe | and also the VR glasses thing |
| 14:27.43 | VartiWork | I have read that they are trying to find out a way to emulate the key pressing feedback |
| 14:27.59 | Tomoe | well there have been some technologies that came out |
| 14:28.18 | Tomoe | like the magnetically controlled tactile screen |
| 14:28.27 | VartiWork | but, ultimately, voice only interfaces might well be only realistic future |
| 14:28.30 | Tomoe | that can change shapes |
| 14:28.35 | VartiWork | yes |
| 14:28.37 | Tomoe | I don't like voice interfaces |
| 14:28.41 | Tomoe | I like silence |
| 14:28.42 | Tomoe | lol |
| 14:29.04 | VartiWork | you can whisper instead :) |
| 14:29.33 | Tomoe | I'd prefer farts |
| 14:29.40 | Tomoe | VartiWork: you don't need to whisper either |
| 14:29.44 | Tomoe | you can just use a throat mike |
| 14:29.48 | VartiWork | voice control is anyway the fastest interface a man could use, excluding neural control |
| 14:30.05 | Tomoe | don't think so |
| 14:30.18 | VartiWork | farts can be very effective, but this requires training |
| 14:30.22 | Tomoe | some eye interface |
| 14:30.24 | Tomoe | eyeball tracking |
| 14:30.29 | Tomoe | should be fastest |
| 14:30.44 | Tomoe | shortest neural path to brain |
| 14:31.02 | VartiWork | ok that one too, but that requires the device is within your eyes' range |
| 14:31.40 | VartiWork | but nothing can beat a neural sensor |
| 14:32.12 | Tomoe | yes it can |
| 14:32.24 | Tomoe | an AI that is running a full simulation of your neural state at 2x speed |
| 14:32.28 | VartiWork | haha |
| 14:32.29 | Tomoe | IT KNOWS WHAT YOU WANT BEFORE YOU KNOW IT |
| 14:32.38 | VartiWork | that would be great |
| 14:33.33 | Tomoe | VartiWork: related to that: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3183 |
| 14:34.44 | VartiWork | until it simulates that "oh, according to my data you won't think anymore since you'd be dead now", while you are still 50 or something |
| 14:36.48 | VartiWork | ah, that reminds me of a classic Star Trek episode |
| 14:36.53 | Tomoe | lol |
| 14:36.59 | Tomoe | I just finished watching that robowatch episode |
| 14:37.01 | Tomoe | of course |
| 14:37.02 | Tomoe | fucking japs |
| 14:37.09 | Tomoe | there needs to be a tear streaming down the face |
| 14:37.11 | Tomoe | hahah |
| 14:37.46 | VartiWork | robowatch? |
| 14:38.53 | VartiWork | robo.watch/ ? |
| 14:42.12 | Tomoe | yes |
| 14:42.17 | Tomoe | erm sorry |
| 14:42.19 | Tomoe | robowatch vid |
| 14:42.21 | Tomoe | that you linked |
| 14:46.12 | VartiWork | ah robohon |
| 14:46.46 | VartiWork | of course, strong emotions help selling products :) |
| 17:14.58 | VartiWork | later |
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| 19:14.13 | licksjp | Hello |
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| 20:43.24 | Varthall | hi |
| 20:51.06 | Tomoe | no yuo |
| 20:57.25 | Varthall | in b4 404 |
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