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| 01:33.58 | DHR | anyone use a Zaurus still? |
| 01:34.47 | DHR | I do, a few times a year. I'd like a new clean firmware, but I expect nobody is maintaining one. Especially for my 6000. |
| 01:53.53 | Tomoe | damn, 6k |
| 01:54.11 | Tomoe | that thing is even deader than the c1k/c3k/c3k1/2 |
| 01:55.05 | Tomoe | there was a recent firmware for the c1k/c3k1 lineup, don't know if that would work on 6k |
| 02:03.18 | DHR | probably not. I also have a 5500. Even more dead, I guess. |
| 02:04.37 | Tomoe | nah, 6k is the winner at deadness due to low popularity caused by high price |
| 02:04.48 | Tomoe | lol, last post in 6k subforum on oesf was back in 2009. |
| 02:05.03 | Tomoe | oh well, tech marches on |
| 02:05.16 | Tomoe | 4" screen with linux and touchscreen was an amazing thing back then |
| 02:05.19 | Tomoe | now it's a regular thing |
| 02:06.11 | DHR | Well, the 6k is kind of useful still. Too bad about the 802.11b |
| 02:06.55 | Tomoe | it's a general computing platform, of course it's useful |
| 02:07.27 | DHR | Nice screen, keyboard. Beats my Nokia n800 in the keyboard department. |
| 02:07.41 | Tomoe | but the other day I bought a tiny 1.2GHz arm box with 256MB ram and 4 USB ports |
| 02:07.46 | Tomoe | for 13$, new. |
| 02:07.58 | DHR | What was that? |
| 02:08.02 | Tomoe | pogoplug |
| 02:08.11 | Tomoe | some company's attempt at home-cloud stuff |
| 02:08.27 | Tomoe | they are selling them at a loss in order to push their cloud solution |
| 02:08.27 | DHR | Oh. Hard to find those, I think. I had a couple that I gave away. |
| 02:08.39 | Tomoe | I know, just saying |
| 02:08.41 | DHR | Maybe this is a new generation. |
| 02:09.08 | Tomoe | as for mobile terminals, well |
| 02:09.15 | Tomoe | there are so many different options |
| 02:09.43 | DHR | obviously smartphones have filled the 6k's niche |
| 02:09.48 | Tomoe | we're just stuck with the cyberpunk ideal of the 90ies which was embodied in the Zaurus |
| 02:09.59 | Tomoe | I still love my z and its form dearly too |
| 02:10.07 | Tomoe | it's just too much effort |
| 02:10.33 | Tomoe | back in those days, I spent 3-4 months trying to get japanese input and stuff to work |
| 02:10.42 | Tomoe | on android? it's a couple click to install Google Japanese IME |
| 02:10.44 | Tomoe | lol |
| 02:10.46 | Tomoe | *clicks |
| 02:11.23 | DHR | I would have thought a Sharp product would be designed to do Japanese. |
| 02:12.14 | DHR | I'm in Canada and Sharp Canada never supported the linux-based Zauri. So I imported from the US. |
| 02:13.12 | Tomoe | yeah, the default rom had japanese input |
| 02:13.14 | Tomoe | quite decent one at that |
| 02:13.24 | Tomoe | helped me immensely with studying japanese back then |
| 02:13.28 | Tomoe | (I lived in japan) |
| 02:13.30 | DHR | anyway, the firmware I'm running is a little flaky in the power on / off / sleep area. I was hoping for something slightly less troublesome. |
| 02:13.57 | Tomoe | but as soon as you would go to any of the more 'advanced' distros, bye bye japanese |
| 02:14.38 | Tomoe | which firmware is it? |
| 02:14.51 | DHR | Japanese is a bit hard to learn, I understand. My in-laws spoke it, but not my wife. |
| 02:15.37 | DHR | I forget the firmware version. Something like 3.5.4 or whatever that last OZ was, I think. |
| 02:16.38 | DHR | And yeah, the 6k seemed to be poorly supported even then. |
| 02:16.49 | Tomoe | yeah it was |
| 02:17.16 | Tomoe | no feeling like standing inside the grocery part of a department store and not recognizing 2/3ds of the stuff there |
| 02:17.33 | Tomoe | and then whipping out the zaurus to look up words through kanji recognition |
| 02:17.42 | Tomoe | have you tried that guyhlem rom |
| 02:17.45 | Tomoe | or whatever it was called |
| 02:17.55 | DHR | no, don't even know what it is. |
| 02:18.02 | Tomoe | hm |
| 02:18.04 | Tomoe | just a sec |
| 02:18.45 | DHR | When I was in japan (1965!), lots of people wanted to talk to me to practice English. (I was a kid.) |
| 02:19.20 | Tomoe | lol nevermind |
| 02:19.28 | Tomoe | it's even worse in the power department |
| 02:19.29 | Tomoe | Known issues: |
| 02:19.29 | Tomoe | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.30 | Tomoe | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.57 | Tomoe | yeah japan has changed quite a bit since then |
| 02:20.04 | Tomoe | the english-moochers are still there tho |
| 02:21.23 | Tomoe | here's a list of roms for the 6k http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=6000_ROMs |
| 02:21.25 | DHR | I actually found Helsinki more disorienting: all the signs in my alphabet, but almost no word roots in common with English (except for borrowed words). |
| 02:23.04 | DHR | thanks -- that looks like a really useful page. |
| 02:23.36 | DHR | last modified in 2007. |
| 02:23.41 | Tomoe | all links probably suffered from link rot a long time ago |
| 02:23.50 | Tomoe | but it will at least give you an idea of what used to be available |
| 02:24.04 | Tomoe | anyhow |
| 02:24.37 | Tomoe | if you check around, you can get an android cellphone with a slide-out keyboard for 30$ on ebay |
| 02:24.41 | Tomoe | that's the route I went |
| 02:25.06 | Tomoe | got me sidekick 4G last year, it was stuck in a boot loop, reflashed it and off we went |
| 02:25.17 | Tomoe | anyhow |
| 02:25.24 | Tomoe | I'm gonna hit the bed now |
| 02:25.34 | DHR | Thanks. Good night. |
| 02:25.37 | Tomoe | sorry that I couldn't be of more help DHR |
| 02:25.50 | Tomoe | and thanks for the chance to reminisce about the good old times =) |
| 02:25.55 | Tomoe | night |
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| 14:58.09 | licksjp | Tomoe: hello |
| 16:34.50 | Tomoe | licksjp: hello |
| 16:35.02 | licksjp | Tomoe: hello |
| 16:35.18 | Tomoe | licksjp: hello |
| 16:35.22 | licksjp | Tomoe: hello |
| 16:36.27 | Tomoe | licksjp: hello |
| 16:37.01 | licksjp | Tomoe: what r u doing now? |
| 16:38.34 | Tomoe | licksjp: 今タブレット直したところです |
| 16:39.18 | Tomoe | 友達からもらったこわされてたやつ |
| 16:40.46 | Tomoe | 新しいガラスを買って直した |
| 17:40.42 | Tomoe | licksjp: what about you? |
| 17:48.00 | licksjp | Tomoe: これからiPhoneのアプリ作る |
| 19:25.53 | Tomoe | そっか |
| 19:26.00 | Tomoe | Androidは？ |
| 19:45.55 | licksjp | Android もやるけど |
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