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| 17:16.39 | HRH_H_Crab | gah |
| 17:16.43 | HRH_H_Crab | BitWraith: awake? |
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| 18:00.55 | jice | Hi everyone - I got a request to update/bugfix an old Zaurus app I built (stock SL5500 rom). There used to be an SDK vmware image available, but can not find it? Anyone knows if its still available? |
| 18:31.39 | BitWraith | HRH_H_Crab, I've been awake, but I was afk without being marked |
| 18:36.34 | HRH_H_Crab | BitWraith: id have checked your idle time if it was that important! ;P |
| 18:36.46 | HRH_H_Crab | i just thought id share my crazy story with you as a fellow z owner. |
| 18:36.56 | HRH_H_Crab | you know i told you mine was borked? |
| 18:37.10 | HRH_H_Crab | let me give you the full story |
| 18:37.40 | HRH_H_Crab | couple of years ago i bought it from a company called fig labs based in england (where i live) |
| 18:37.59 | HRH_H_Crab | the z came and it came with a power adaptor for some psp or something. |
| 18:38.54 | HRH_H_Crab | as the japanese model obviously didnt have a suitable plug |
| 18:39.18 | HRH_H_Crab | anyway, that worked fine for some time and then i noticed that the orange light wouldnt come on to indicate charging. |
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| 18:43.50 | BitWraith | that is crazy |
| 18:44.25 | HRH_H_Crab | i dont really mind that i bought the other one. |
| 18:44.42 | BitWraith | I have one of those... I use it with a usb iPAQ charger to charge my Zaurus in the car. :-) |
| 18:44.54 | HRH_H_Crab | ill keep it in pristine condition. |
| 18:46.02 | HRH_H_Crab | so im confused. |
| 18:46.23 | HRH_H_Crab | i dunno if its the z, or i got unlucky with a dud adaptor or whatever. |
| 18:46.28 | BitWraith | well I don't know what happened either |
| 18:46.41 | HRH_H_Crab | ive read a couple of similar stories on various forums |
| 18:47.03 | BitWraith | but mine came with an official Sharp adapter in the US |
| 18:47.18 | HRH_H_Crab | but you are never sure what z they are talking about. |
| 20:07.34 | jice | nobody here know about a Zaurus SDK vmware image? :( |
| 20:09.43 | Sketch | zaurus = arm, vmware = x86 |
| 20:10.19 | jice | Sketch, I'm looking for an image with the crossplatform devel tools for arm |
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| 21:16.01 | nox- | moin |
| 21:20.51 | sturle | night |
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| 22:03.11 | HRH_H_Crab | jice: qemu maybe? |
| 22:03.22 | HRH_H_Crab | i don't know but the dev tools, but it will emulate the platform. |
| 22:03.58 | jice | hmm... I really need the Qtopia dev environment |
| 22:04.14 | HRH_H_Crab | dunno |
| 22:04.22 | jice | k, thanks anyway |
| 22:04.25 | HRH_H_Crab | i thought qtopia were all about charging for that sort of thing? ;P |
| 22:04.43 | jice | there used to be one based on DSL linux but the webpage is gone |
| 22:05.19 | jice | Actually, I did pay them for the dev tools |
| 22:06.09 | jice | I'm just trying to avoid installing a new Linux and set up gcc 2.95 etc manually again |
| 22:06.29 | jice | havent had any dev env. since 2004 |
| 22:06.39 | HRH_H_Crab | heh |
| 22:06.57 | HRH_H_Crab | well i think its very cool that you are considering |
| 22:07.03 | HRH_H_Crab | doing what you can to help out. |
| 22:07.13 | HRH_H_Crab | what was the app anyway? |
| 22:07.57 | jice | http://jiceland.com/software/zfamtree.php |
| 22:08.50 | jice | I just got a request to fix some issues from someone who ia here periodically, "sdjf" |
| 22:09.30 | HRH_H_Crab | hehe cute app |
| 22:09.37 | HRH_H_Crab | im a new lurker to the channel. |
| 22:09.48 | HRH_H_Crab | i never really discovered the zaurus channels until recently. |
| 22:10.05 | HRH_H_Crab | i normally used to hang out with the angstrom guys as thats what i use on my z. |
| 22:10.17 | HRH_H_Crab | but i had some wierdo issues lately so turned up in here. |
| 22:10.32 | jice | ok, I see... didnt really expect anyone to use the original Zaurus rom anymore |
| 22:10.32 | HRH_H_Crab | its a pretty quiet channel sadly! i guess all the z owners are out enjoying the summer. |
| 22:10.55 | HRH_H_Crab | jice: i think for people that use them more like a traditional pda they are still popular. |
| 22:11.07 | HRH_H_Crab | but i think i had mine on for about a week! |
| 22:11.18 | jice | lol... ok :) |
| 22:11.29 | jice | which Z do you have? |
| 22:11.45 | HRH_H_Crab | i have a c3200 |
| 22:11.50 | HRH_H_Crab | and i just bought another one! |
| 22:11.54 | HRH_H_Crab | long story! ;P |
| 22:12.08 | HRH_H_Crab | ive seen the older ones though |
| 22:13.18 | jice | k, the older ones were ok for its time.. too bad Sharp didnt market the new ones |
| 22:13.38 | HRH_H_Crab | well i think they still sell 'em in japan. |
| 22:13.54 | HRH_H_Crab | but yes, its odd they never tried to push them over here. |
| 22:14.14 | HRH_H_Crab | they could have had the eeepc action! |
| 22:14.18 | jice | yep, japan seems to be the only market they care about |
| 22:14.30 | jice | true! |
| 22:14.32 | HRH_H_Crab | but people in japan use them very differently afaict. |
| 22:14.40 | HRH_H_Crab | although my z use is a bit strange. |
| 22:15.04 | HRH_H_Crab | it mainly gets used as a glorified ipod, |
| 22:15.32 | HRH_H_Crab | and portable terminal via my cell phone pand, and ssh |
| 22:15.59 | HRH_H_Crab | so i can forgive sharps marketing dudes from not knowing what to do with that! :P |
| 22:16.00 | jice | well, thats mainly how I used my Z5500 as well :) |
| 22:16.42 | jice | I always wanted an ipod that I could telnet into :P |
| 22:16.50 | HRH_H_Crab | heh |
| 22:16.54 | HRH_H_Crab | or run a webserver on! |
| 22:17.00 | jice | yep |
| 22:17.26 | HRH_H_Crab | its the greatest thing for a geek on a long train journey. |
| 22:17.39 | HRH_H_Crab | ssh into your machines at home, check mail, do updates or whatever. |
| 22:17.42 | jice | but you wouldnt trade it for the eee? |
| 22:17.56 | HRH_H_Crab | the eee is just a bit too big. |
| 22:18.04 | HRH_H_Crab | (for me) |
| 22:18.22 | HRH_H_Crab | the clam shell z's for me, |
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| 22:18.41 | HRH_H_Crab | hit a perfect sweetspot between being compact, having a nice screen, and a decent keyboard. |
| 22:19.08 | HRH_H_Crab | id love to have a few words with the geniuses that didnt think to include bluetooth or wifi though. |
| 22:19.20 | jice | k, the eee feels really cheap and flimsy too |
| 22:19.32 | HRH_H_Crab | and its a shame that the graphics chip on the clamshells cant match the 6000. |
| 22:19.39 | HRH_H_Crab | (or at least so ive heard) |
| 22:19.56 | HRH_H_Crab | ive never got good fullscreen video out of my 3200. |
| 22:19.58 | HRH_H_Crab | :( |
| 22:20.06 | jice | I believe you, havent really kept track after the 6000 came out |
| 22:20.35 | HRH_H_Crab | well the 6000 is the newest i think. |
| 22:20.52 | HRH_H_Crab | and i dont know much about it except it returns to the same form factor as the old ones. |
| 22:20.56 | jice | k, must mix it up with the 5600 or so |
| 22:21.06 | HRH_H_Crab | looks similar to those. |
| 22:21.13 | Varthall | well, 320x240 videos work fine here on fullscreen |
| 22:21.21 | jice | ah, ok. yes, I think I saw a picture of it on sharps homepage |
| 22:21.27 | HRH_H_Crab | Varthall: really? |
| 22:21.41 | Varthall | yes, mpeg1 though |
| 22:21.47 | HRH_H_Crab | Varthall: what rom and do you mind sharing encoder settings? |
| 22:21.52 | Varthall | flv work fine too |
| 22:21.54 | HRH_H_Crab | or info about what you use |
| 22:21.54 | jice | not on the main page, just did a google for zaurus and ended up on a sharp page |
| 22:22.08 | Varthall | PdaXii13 |
| 22:22.35 | Varthall | if I'm not mistaken I use the same encoding as for videocds |
| 22:23.19 | HRH_H_Crab | i might have to try this pdaX business at some stage. |
| 22:23.33 | HRH_H_Crab | you have to flash the nand or something right? |
| 22:23.45 | Varthall | yes |
| 22:24.09 | Varthall | PdaXRom is recommended |
| 22:24.11 | HRH_H_Crab | Varthall: is it still well developed? |
| 22:24.16 | Varthall | better, pdaxii |
| 22:24.47 | Varthall | I'm not following the development closely lately |
| 22:25.05 | Varthall | I believe the next version is still in beta |
| 22:25.49 | HRH_H_Crab | i want to try poky first. |
| 22:26.25 | HRH_H_Crab | by a wierdo coincidence the people that make it aren't that far from me, so thats reason enough to give it a shot i feel! |
| 22:26.35 | HRH_H_Crab | and i have heard some interesting reports. |
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| 23:31.17 | BitWraith | HRH_H_Crab, I don't know if anybody corrected you r not o here goes: the 3200 is the newest and last model. no more zaurii from here on. ;-/ |
| 23:33.01 | nox- | i thought theres a new one, 6000? |
| 23:35.36 | HRH_H_Crab | maybe the 6000 came out first. |
| 23:35.52 | HRH_H_Crab | i just thought it might be newer because it currently seems to be more expensive, |
| 23:36.10 | HRH_H_Crab | and ive read stuff about it having the best graphics hardware of any z. |
| 23:40.04 | nox- | yeah 6000 is certainly newer than 3200 |
| 23:43.52 | HRH_H_Crab | i dunno |
| 23:44.03 | HRH_H_Crab | im beginning to think BitWraith is right. |
| 23:44.21 | HRH_H_Crab | the wikipedia article isnt clear it gives dates for the c3200 but not the 6000 |
| 23:44.45 | HRH_H_Crab | its odd that they put wifi / bluetooth on the 6000 and then took it off for the clamshells though! |
| 23:44.51 | HRH_H_Crab | (if they did the 6000 first) |
| 23:54.08 | Sketch | the 6000 is older than the 3000 and up |
| 23:54.41 | Sketch | i think it's older than the C8x0's too, but not the C7x0's |
| 23:55.00 | Sketch | i am not positive about that though, i didn't really get involved intil the 3000's came out |
| 23:58.02 | nox- | hmm looks like i was wrong: http://www.engadget.com/search/?q=zaurus&submit=Go |
| 23:58.23 | nox- | 6000 reviews from 2004... |