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| 03:01.51 | Capn_Fish | ArchiMark1: You here? |
| 03:01.55 | ArchiMark1 | Greetings!!! |
| 03:02.09 | Capn_Fish | Hey. Your OESF inbox is full. I can't PM you |
| 03:03.45 | ArchiMark1 | Sorry, will clear it out soon.... |
| 03:04.03 | Capn_Fish | np |
| 03:04.11 | Capn_Fish | My N810 ought to come tomorrow! |
| 03:04.26 | Capn_Fish | Unless they somehow violate the 3-day shipping I paid for... |
| 03:04.42 | ArchiMark1 | EXCELLENT!!!! Meanwhile, you read my tale of woe that I have had yesterday and today.... |
| 03:04.48 | Capn_Fish | ya |
| 03:04.55 | Capn_Fish | Sounds painful |
| 03:05.02 | Capn_Fish | You sure it's worth it? |
| 03:05.49 | ArchiMark1 | Well, frustrating to say the least.....just wish people would write clear complete instructions if they write them....seems that there's always some step(s) left out and screws you up.... |
| 03:06.21 | Capn_Fish | That's how it goes. |
| 03:06.45 | Capn_Fish | When I try to help the newbies, I always have to re-read my posts to make sure I included every stop |
| 03:06.47 | Capn_Fish | *step |
| 03:06.51 | ArchiMark1 | Yep....once I get through something like this I do feel that I learned something.... |
| 03:07.03 | Capn_Fish | That it's a PITA? |
| 03:07.05 | Capn_Fish | :) |
| 03:07.25 | ArchiMark1 | Glad to hear that you take the time to do that....yes, a PITA!!! |
| 03:07.42 | Capn_Fish | Have you tried doing a MD/NAND restore, repartitioning/formatting, and then using the OESF tarball? |
| 03:07.54 | Capn_Fish | Sometimes you just need to start fresh |
| 03:08.21 | ArchiMark1 | Not yet, that's what I was wondering...whether to get my Z back to original factory state before continuing again... |
| 03:08.41 | Capn_Fish | It couldn't hurt |
| 03:08.55 | ArchiMark1 | You're right as usual.... ;-) |
| 03:09.10 | Capn_Fish | I try to be. It annoys the heck out of people, though |
| 03:09.45 | ArchiMark1 | Yeah, reminds me of the time I thought I was wrong and then it turned out I was right... |
| 03:09.46 | Capn_Fish | An interesting tidbit: I posted at the IT forum, and the guy who replied to me didn't know that Angstrom/Poky could be installed on an IT |
| 03:10.12 | ArchiMark1 | Really???.....that's good one... |
| 03:10.14 | Capn_Fish | I would think I would be the newbie there, but I guess I read up on it more than they did |
| 03:10.18 | Capn_Fish | Ya. |
| 03:10.20 | Capn_Fish | hang on a tic |
| 03:10.46 | ArchiMark1 | NP |
| 03:10.54 | Capn_Fish | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18129 |
| 03:10.59 | Capn_Fish | There's the link |
| 03:12.25 | ArchiMark1 | Thanks, just scanned the posts some good info there.... |
| 03:12.46 | Capn_Fish | Ya. Good to hear you can't really brick the N810 eiher |
| 03:12.50 | Capn_Fish | *either |
| 03:13.30 | ArchiMark1 | Yes, reassuring, especially for someone like me... |
| 03:14.00 | Capn_Fish | Especially because anything that WOULD brick it most likely voids your warranty anyway |
| 03:14.52 | Capn_Fish | I assume you're going to try Debian on the N810 since you are on the Z? |
| 03:15.41 | ArchiMark1 | Ya, probably.... ;-) |
| 03:16.16 | Capn_Fish | According to what the guy said to be, it only runs from SD |
| 03:16.33 | Capn_Fish | Makes reverting to the IT OS easier, I'd assume. |
| 03:16.44 | Capn_Fish | Kind of the risk-free method, eh? |
| 03:16.51 | ArchiMark1 | Yes!... ;-) |
| 03:17.22 | Capn_Fish | http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25618&hl= |
| 03:17.37 | Capn_Fish | Did you see that guy's theme? It looks almost EXACTLY like Ubuntu! |
| 03:18.38 | ArchiMark1 | Looks good!!! But what's a SL-7500???? |
| 03:18.51 | Capn_Fish | I believe it's a Chinese C710 |
| 03:18.54 | Capn_Fish | *C750 |
| 03:19.45 | Capn_Fish | http://cseek.yesky.com/imagelist/06/41/vb9u13d63s17s.jpg |
| 03:20.04 | Capn_Fish | The only difference is the keyboard looks different (Different language?) |
| 03:20.39 | ArchiMark1 | OK, I get it now.. |
| 03:21.24 | Capn_Fish | Random question: What do you use your Z for? |
| 03:21.53 | Capn_Fish | Mine's a web browser, SDL test bed, mobile dev platform, and e-mail machine mostly |
| 03:22.29 | Capn_Fish | Also a few games (Aleph One/Marathon, some FreeCiv) |
| 03:23.29 | ArchiMark1 | Well....good question...since I've only my 3200 for about 3 days and 2 of those I've spent screwing it up, I'd say not much.... ;-) |
| 03:23.41 | Capn_Fish | How about before that? |
| 03:23.52 | ArchiMark1 | But hopefully, I'll get past this initial bump in the road... |
| 03:24.20 | Capn_Fish | You will. |
| 03:24.49 | Capn_Fish | I'd say it's more of a chasm, but that's just me :) |
| 03:25.08 | ArchiMark1 | Well, before I used it for multiple reasons, like you, web browser, mobile dev, emails, music, and overall continuing my attempts to get a better grasp and knowledge of Linux |
| 03:25.33 | Capn_Fish | The Zaurus is where I started with Linux |
| 03:25.50 | Capn_Fish | It's definitely an all-purpose machine |
| 03:26.32 | Capn_Fish | What languages do you like? I use C/C++ and SDL |
| 03:26.40 | Capn_Fish | Or, with SDL, as the case may be |
| 03:27.23 | ArchiMark1 | Yes, me too....my original idea was that by having a pocketable Linux box that I could have with me all day I could use it wherever I am whenever I have some minutes to spare to use it and learn... |
| 03:28.25 | Capn_Fish | The thought going through my head was "High res screen, keyboard, clamshell....Must buy!" |
| 03:28.31 | ArchiMark1 | I've just dabbled in coding, still trying to teach myself, go in cycles with it, where I have time for it for a while and then I don't for awhile....but have played with Basic, C, C++, etc |
| 03:28.35 | Capn_Fish | Then came the Linux |
| 03:28.43 | Capn_Fish | Same here |
| 03:29.31 | ArchiMark1 | Yes, I like the Z clamshell form factor a lot, just wish display was a bit larger....fill out that frame a bit more... |
| 03:29.50 | Capn_Fish | Ya. That's a good deal of the N810's appeal (right below RAM) |
| 03:30.01 | Capn_Fish | It looks like its display fits. |
| 03:30.17 | ArchiMark1 | Yes, if the 3200 just had the display size of the N810 it would be great! |
| 03:30.53 | ArchiMark1 | In fact, I seem to recall that someone was trying to fit the 6000 display onto a 3200... |
| 03:31.12 | Capn_Fish | Ya. Didn't work out, IIRC |
| 03:31.26 | ArchiMark1 | Great concept though |
| 03:31.38 | Capn_Fish | Extra RAM would be the killer thing for the Z with the larger screen, and a hold switch |
| 03:31.46 | Capn_Fish | Mine keeps turining on in my pocket |
| 03:32.53 | ArchiMark1 | I keep mine in my carrying bag in a case, so, don't have problem with that, at least one thing I don't have problem with... ;-) |
| 03:33.15 | Capn_Fish | Ya. I figured I didn't need a case, as it was a clamshell. |
| 03:33.32 | Capn_Fish | I've been tempted to remove the power button and just press it with the stylus |
| 03:34.46 | Capn_Fish | Do you enjoy gaming? |
| 03:36.47 | ArchiMark1 | Yes, but don't get that much chance to play given my work situation, etc... |
| 03:37.13 | Capn_Fish | I know the feeling. |
| 03:37.45 | ArchiMark1 | Have enjoyed various games such as car racing, billiards, puzzles, arcade type, etc |
| 03:38.07 | Capn_Fish | I like several FPSs and one RTS |
| 03:39.32 | ArchiMark1 | LIke? |
| 03:40.14 | Capn_Fish | Battlefield2: special Forces |
| 03:40.22 | Capn_Fish | is my current fave |
| 03:40.36 | Capn_Fish | The only RTS I like is Age of Empires II: The Conquerors |
| 03:41.23 | ArchiMark1 | I'll have to check those out...can I put them on my Z??? ;-) |
| 03:41.30 | Capn_Fish | I wish |
| 03:41.37 | Capn_Fish | The Z could EASILY run AoE II |
| 03:41.49 | Capn_Fish | It only needs like 16MB RAM and 90MHz of CPU |
| 03:42.20 | Capn_Fish | You can run Aleph One/Marathon pn the Z, though |
| 03:42.28 | Capn_Fish | It works quite nicely |
| 03:42.30 | ArchiMark1 | Great! |
| 03:43.20 | Capn_Fish | In my feed :) |
| 03:43.58 | Capn_Fish | FreeCiv works pretty well also |
| 03:44.21 | Capn_Fish | Just remember, my ipks are only guaranteed to run on pdaXrom r198 |
| 03:44.21 | ArchiMark1 | Great! Gee, if I ever get my Z workin' again, I'll check it out... ;-) |
| 03:44.43 | Capn_Fish | It's easy to make the Z run...Making it run how you want it to is another story |
| 03:44.56 | ArchiMark1 | Step One, get Z that boots up again... |
| 03:45.50 | Capn_Fish | That's a good start :) |
| 03:46.24 | ArchiMark1 | Would make me happy camper again....gotta download that nand file.... |
| 03:47.02 | Capn_Fish | Trying to install Debian fresh? |
| 03:47.29 | ArchiMark1 | Yes, I was... |
| 03:48.10 | Capn_Fish | but...? |
| 03:50.01 | ArchiMark1 | read my posts that I PM'd you about... http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=24709&pid=175489&st=225&#entry175489 |
| 03:51.28 | Capn_Fish | I did |
| 03:52.20 | ArchiMark1 | OK, so you understand what I'm trying to explain about what was happening??? |
| 03:53.08 | Capn_Fish | I remember having that error, but I don't remember how I fixed it. |
| 03:54.03 | Capn_Fish | I'm nearly worthless when it comes to Debian stuff (and Cacko, for that matter) |
| 03:55.58 | ArchiMark1 | That's OK....hopefully, I'll get some more input soon on the forum from some kind soul who will help me out of my misery... |
| 03:56.35 | Capn_Fish | Sorry I can't be of further help :( |
| 03:56.47 | Capn_Fish | I have to go again (stupid time zones...) |
| 03:56.52 | Capn_Fish | Catch you later |
| 03:57.03 | ArchiMark1 | NP, you've been very supportive as it is...Thanks again...Bye! |
| 03:57.30 | ArchiMark1 | Anyone else hanging out here in Z land?? |
| 03:59.03 | ArchiMark1 | Guess not.... |
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| 12:26.19 | wangcity | openzaurus and zaurus is what diffrent? |
| 12:28.00 | Qantourisc | i'm no expert (so i can be wrong!): all i know:they can run the same unmodified version, and the open one is in english. |
| 12:30.03 | wangcity | openzaurus is software or hardware? |
| 12:30.39 | Qantourisc | last time i check software :) |
| 12:31.00 | wangcity | maybe openzaurus is a rom? |
| 12:36.25 | Qantourisc | do you mean the bits stored in the rom or the ic ? :) |
| 12:38.00 | wangcity | i not understand what's openzaurus, maybe, it just a irc chanel? |
| 12:39.36 | Qantourisc | it's an os for your zaurus hardware |
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