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| 06:54.15 | Zesturian | Any recommendations of GPS cards? |
| 06:54.19 | Zesturian | *on |
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| 16:52.50 | alvises | hi |
| 16:53.01 | alvises | i'm a zaurus sl-c3200 newbie |
| 16:55.32 | alvises | i have tested openzaurus opie/gpe but not satisfied at all. The programs crash and are very slow. Then is there a rom with a good package support, that supports my prism2 wifi, that runs divx ? |
| 16:55.35 | alvises | thanks |
| 16:56.42 | frostschutz | I use Cacko |
| 16:57.21 | alvises | frostshutz: and divx works ? |
| 16:58.05 | frostschutz | yes and no |
| 16:58.46 | frostschutz | the hardware is too slow to play back a high quality/res encoded divx video |
| 16:58.47 | alvises | :( |
| 16:59.01 | agaffney | what were you expecting? |
| 16:59.01 | Sketch | divx works if your video is encoded at a low enough bitrate/size |
| 16:59.12 | alvises | but on my pocketpc i was albe to watch divx with no probs |
| 16:59.16 | Sketch | i've had pretty good luck with 320x240 divx |
| 16:59.41 | Sketch | and tell mplayer to scale it up to 640x480 |
| 17:00.42 | Sketch | on a 3200, make sure you're using the mplayer version with bvdd |
| 17:01.57 | alvises | check. |
| 17:02.47 | frostschutz | the audio can also add a lot of load... don't try to play files with ulta high quality ac3 surround sound or something |
| 17:03.29 | frostschutz | check the zaurus forums, there should be encoder scripts out there that can convert video files into a format the zaurus is capable to play |
| 17:04.14 | alvises | frostshutz: but where may i found cacko ? In the cacko site is not possible to download. There aren't the files |
| 17:06.21 | frostschutz | gosh, oesf still down, huh |
| 17:06.56 | frostschutz | http://cacko.oesf.org/ Site Temporarily Unavailable... error id: "bad_httpd_conf" |
| 17:07.02 | frostschutz | that's great |
| 17:07.55 | alvises | is the rom of the end of 2004 |
| 17:07.56 | alvises | ? |
| 17:08.51 | frostschutz | yeah, may very well be |
| 17:08.57 | alvises | mmm |
| 17:09.00 | alvises | very old |
| 17:09.06 | frostschutz | yes |
| 17:10.00 | frostschutz | software packages may not necessarily be that old, though |
| 17:10.36 | alvises | yea.. but the kernel... |
| 17:10.41 | frostschutz | yeah, well, what are you gonna do |
| 17:11.04 | frostschutz | supporting unknown hardware is a pain |
| 17:11.26 | alvises | i don't know. I have tried openzaurus with opie and gpe but no way to get all the programs working |
| 17:11.41 | alvises | gaim and vlc crash |
| 17:11.51 | alvises | bluetooth manager on opie crash |
| 17:11.54 | frostschutz | yeah, well |
| 17:12.02 | frostschutz | gaim crashes on my PC as well :-D |
| 17:12.09 | alvises | ghhghg :) |
| 17:12.26 | frostschutz | this is stuff I don't need / use on the Z |
| 17:12.29 | alvises | is there an alternative messenger ? |
| 17:13.44 | frostschutz | Dunno. I use micq (which is a console app for ICQ only). |
| 17:13.53 | alvises | mm |
| 17:13.54 | Sketch | i've never heard of cacko.oesf.org, that may be old? maybe it worked until the recent move to ibiblio |
| 17:14.05 | Sketch | try cacko.biz instead |
| 17:14.06 | Zesturian | Cacko wouldn't run on the 6000 would it? |
| 17:14.13 | frostschutz | I guess if I wanted to seriously use CLI internet programs on the Z, I'd just SSH onto my server and go from there. Way easier to handle than porting software on the Z |
| 17:14.20 | Sketch | it redirects to a very slow russian site |
| 17:14.29 | Sketch | (very slow from here in the US, anyway) |
| 17:14.32 | frostschutz | Sketch: the downloads are there |
| 17:15.04 | Sketch | ahh, i see |
| 17:15.08 | frostschutz | Sketch: cacko.biz just links to cacko.oesf.org - worked fine until oesf crashed some weeks ago |
| 17:15.38 | frostschutz | I've found some partial mirrors, but not the C3200 archive |
| 17:15.47 | frostschutz | people need to put this stuff on sourceforge or something |
| 17:16.05 | Sketch | why is there a seperate archive for the 3200? isn't it identical to the 3100 except the bigger drive? |
| 17:17.20 | frostschutz | Dunno. May be the installation routine that is automatically partitioning stuff and the like. May be the amount of software included? No idea really. |
| 17:19.12 | alvises | i have seen now cacko screenshots. I want it :D |
| 17:21.11 | alvises | founded a mirror but there ins't c3200 : http://www.zaurus.org.uk/download/cacko-1.23/ 3100 , as sketch was telling us, is the same isn't it ? 4gb hd only |
| 17:22.08 | Sketch | the 3100 install doesn't touch the HD at all |
| 17:22.49 | Sketch | it just reformats/installs on the flash |
| 17:23.18 | alvises | sketch: well , i' m unluky then.. |
| 17:23.47 | alvises | sketch: and what's about oe ? |
| 17:23.59 | Sketch | (which is actually nice, i managed to break cacko so it wouldn't boot a couple of times and just reinstalled, everything on the HD under Documents was still intact) |
| 17:24.01 | alvises | sketch: did u ever use it ? |
| 17:24.08 | Sketch | i've only used sharp rom and cacko so far |
| 17:26.34 | alvises | and pdaXroM ? ..... |
| 17:26.59 | alvises | ou.. c3200 not supported by now :( |
| 18:31.59 | Ober | http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007Jan/bpd20070122001750.htm |
| 18:32.14 | Ober | so zaurus line is ended... |
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| 18:36.44 | Tomoe | Ober: heh |
| 18:36.50 | Tomoe | about fucking time, I'd say |
| 18:37.01 | Tomoe | Zaurus was to be redesigned or killed |
| 18:37.12 | Tomoe | I hoped it would be redesigned but they chose to kill it |
| 18:37.14 | Tomoe | well |
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| 20:49.10 | calmofthestorm7 | question: How do you brick a SL-C1000? (I'd settle for how do you /not/ brick it, as that's what I'm actually interested in) |
| 20:49.16 | calmofthestorm7 | specifically, what ops are unsafe? |
| 20:54.02 | balrog-kun | writing to /dev/mtd0 or mtdblock0 may be unsafe |
| 20:54.17 | calmofthestorm7 | any other mtdblock should be fine then? |
| 20:54.21 | balrog-kun | other types of brekage can be undone i think |
| 20:54.26 | calmofthestorm7 | yay, thanks;) |
| 20:54.31 | balrog-kun | yeah, i think so |
| 20:54.38 | balrog-kun | but i'm not taking responsibilty |
| 20:54.42 | calmofthestorm7 | (don't worry, I won't hold it against you if you're wrong) |
| 20:54.45 | calmofthestorm7 | lol yeah exactly |
| 20:54.50 | balrog-kun | :> |
| 20:54.56 | calmofthestorm7 | free advice comes with 200% money back guarentee;) |
| 20:55.04 | balrog-kun | heh |
| 20:56.05 | balrog-kun | mtd0 is the boot rom as i understand it, it has a tool for reflashing the other mtd's in it, so it should be enough to debrick |
| 20:56.17 | calmofthestorm7 | gotcha |
| 20:56.21 | calmofthestorm7 | yeah I ruined a 5600 by writing to it |
| 20:56.23 | calmofthestorm7 | :-( |
| 20:56.30 | calmofthestorm7 | oh well, 'twas old and cheap |
| 21:03.32 | Tomoe | heh |
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| 22:57.47 | raduga | hrw: is there a more appropriate place to ask a general arm, gcc-related question, than #oe ? |
| 22:58.00 | raduga | #oe is not a good dumping ground :( |
| 22:58.42 | raduga | but i can't really think of a more likely place to clarify a gcc issue, here |
| 22:58.51 | raduga | oh, |
| 22:58.57 | raduga | hrw isn't here :| |
| 22:59.15 | balrog-kun | he must be hiding :p |
| 22:59.27 | balrog-kun | what's the question out of curiosity? |
| 23:00.05 | raduga | trying to sort out -mcpu -march -mtune issues. |
| 23:00.28 | balrog-kun | i see |
| 23:00.54 | raduga | RP, would very likely know. But every time I ask a non-OE related question in #oe i feel... vaguely dirty. |
| 23:01.02 | raduga | if not, quite filthy |
| 23:01.24 | balrog-kun | heh |
| 23:02.05 | raduga | balrog-kun: is there (to your knowledge) any advantage to using -mcpu xscale over -mcpu iwmmx? on a pxa270? |
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| 23:02.53 | raduga | or does it depend on the code? |
| 23:03.03 | raduga | or is iwmmx a superset of what would be covered in xscale |
| 23:03.17 | raduga | or better to use -mcpu xscale, -mtune iwmmx |
| 23:03.19 | balrog-kun | to my knowledge it's the reverse, it would be a disadvantage, if any difference at all |
| 23:03.34 | balrog-kun | iwmmxt should imply xscale, |
| 23:03.39 | balrog-kun | xscale being more portable |
| 23:04.25 | raduga | so, if I think I see execution speed improvement with xscale over iwmmx, I'm probably imagining it |
| 23:04.33 | balrog-kun | and depends on the code for sure but probably for most programs makes no real difference |
| 23:04.44 | raduga | indeed :) |
| 23:04.44 | balrog-kun | hummm |
| 23:05.09 | balrog-kun | i don't know, maybe it would be good to check then |
| 23:05.33 | balrog-kun | i thought processors that support iwmmxt are a subset of xscale |
| 23:05.44 | raduga | balrog: the code in question is wonky i386, emulated by dosbox. lots of other possible confounding variables. |
| 23:06.02 | balrog-kun | oh |
| 23:06.30 | raduga | rather, i'm running i386 code, under dosbox, running on a pxa270 |
| 23:06.40 | balrog-kun | well, i recently looked at assembly generated by gcc with -march=iwmmxt and i didn't find any real iwmmxt insns in it until i added vectors |
| 23:06.46 | balrog-kun | the vectors from GNU C |
| 23:06.49 | raduga | *nod* |
| 23:07.57 | balrog-kun | actually i don't know of anything that can be used on xscale in userspace and can't be used on generic arm |
| 23:08.02 | balrog-kun | other than iwmmxt |
| 23:10.38 | alvises | do you know how may i do copy/paste on the gpe terminal ? |
| 23:10.57 | raduga | thank you, balrog-kun. |
| 23:13.19 | balrog-kun | no problem |
| 23:13.49 | balrog-kun | if you learn more about -mcpu=iwmmxt i wouldn't mind learning about it too :p |