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| 00:41.45 | zauruspain | hi |
| 00:42.19 | zauruspain | someone know, if Ise nvidia Gforce 2Mx 32Mb, vesafb-tng resolution i need to 1024x786 ?? |
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| 16:29.54 | Tomoe | sup hy |
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| 20:49.33 | camousse | hello |
| 20:49.45 | camousse | i want to restore my zaurus |
| 20:50.10 | camousse | i installed pdaxroom and now i want to install openzaurus |
| 20:50.20 | camousse | some one can help me please ? |
| 20:51.00 | camousse | i have probleme to remove uboot |
| 20:51.47 | hrw | you need nand backup image |
| 20:52.10 | hrw | you can get them on trisoft.de website |
| 20:54.27 | camousse | i have it |
| 20:54.41 | camousse | i have a zaurus 3200 |
| 20:55.00 | camousse | when i hold C + M key, the zaurus boot linux & pdaxroom |
| 21:00.29 | hrw | d+m |
| 21:02.08 | camousse | yes D+M, but it doesn't work |
| 21:02.08 | camousse | boot a linux kernel too |
| 21:03.12 | camousse | always boot pdaxroom!!! |
| 21:03.49 | camousse | how can i remove this thing??????? |
| 21:06.15 | raduga | camousse: which version of pdaXrom? |
| 21:06.23 | camousse | the last |
| 21:06.28 | camousse | r121 |
| 21:06.38 | camousse | no help in the web site to remove this |
| 21:07.03 | raduga | shut down the zaurus, remove the battery, |
| 21:07.10 | raduga | hold the "D" and "P" keys |
| 21:07.17 | camousse | done |
| 21:07.21 | raduga | and while holding them, plug the power cord in |
| 21:07.45 | raduga | you should get the Sharp service menu, in Portrait mode (rotated) |
| 21:07.53 | camousse | no |
| 21:07.59 | camousse | get the pdaxroom booting:::: |
| 21:08.23 | raduga | just a moment |
| 21:09.14 | raduga | is the battery loaded? |
| 21:09.16 | camousse | and after pdaxroom is loader what do i do? |
| 21:09.34 | camousse | no the battery is outside |
| 21:09.42 | raduga | ok. |
| 21:09.54 | raduga | in order to reflash, you'll need a NAND image on CF card. do you have one? |
| 21:10.33 | camousse | no |
| 21:10.37 | camousse | i have a SD CARD |
| 21:10.59 | raduga | i believe the reflashing may work from SD, but if it doesn't you'll have to get a CF card |
| 21:11.01 | raduga | but anyway, |
| 21:11.08 | raduga | unplug the AC power. |
| 21:11.29 | raduga | press the 'D' key. continue to hold the 'D' key. |
| 21:11.39 | raduga | press the 'P' key, continue to hold the 'P' key |
| 21:11.55 | raduga | while holding both of these down, plug the AC into the back of the Zaurus. |
| 21:12.53 | camousse | PDAXROOM :-( |
| 21:13.25 | camousse | and the battery switch, in which state should i let it? |
| 21:14.50 | raduga | open or closed, shouldn't matter |
| 21:15.09 | raduga | D-P should boot the service menu, though. |
| 21:15.16 | raduga | I'm not sure what's wrong. |
| 21:15.16 | camousse | doesn't work :-( |
| 21:15.27 | raduga | try asking in #oe maybe |
| 21:15.29 | raduga | or #cacko |
| 21:15.37 | camousse | okay thanks |
| 21:16.12 | hrw | rather cacko |
| 21:16.37 | hrw | as there was decision about going to uboot taken |
| 21:17.02 | camousse | should i need specific soft in the sf card (i have one file of 256mb) |
| 21:17.29 | camousse | uboot???? i will never reinstall it (if i can remove it) |
| 21:17.40 | raduga | hrw: is there a definitive list of key codes in the wiki, or OESF, anywhere that you know of? |
| 21:18.02 | camousse | can i install openzaurus with uboot ? |
| 21:18.24 | raduga | camousse: maybe some day, but not currently supported. |
| 21:18.50 | camousse | ok |
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| 21:21.21 | hrw | raduga: dm dp db |
| 21:21.48 | hrw | raduga: OZ will rather never support uboot |
| 21:21.57 | camousse | when i put the battery, the zaurus d'ont boot anymore |
| 21:21.57 | hrw | too much problems for users |
| 21:22.11 | camousse | my zaurus won't start with this fucking uboot |
| 21:22.20 | raduga | hrw: fine by me. |
| 21:22.39 | camousse | hrw: same for me :-( |
| 21:22.48 | raduga | hrw: some months ago, I heard from some OE developers (I forget who exactly) that uboot looked very interesting |
| 21:23.09 | camousse | even if a kernel as emergency is very interesting |
| 21:23.11 | raduga | but this was before pdaXrom beta4, so those same people may have decided it looked less interesting subsequently |
| 21:23.30 | hrw | raduga: uboot looks interesting. but zaurus users are not ready for it |
| 21:23.57 | raduga | hrw: unfortunately, I agree. :/ |
| 21:24.21 | camousse | when i plug the AC power in, pdaxrom boot |
| 21:24.28 | raduga | and, the specific reason pdaXrom moved to uboot, is not a great reason either. |
| 21:24.41 | camousse | hold keys change nothing : it's always boot pdaxroom |
| 21:25.31 | camousse | go smoke , back in 5 min |
| 21:26.08 | raduga | hrw: its *way* too fragile |
| 21:27.14 | hrw | raduga: uboot or zaurus users? |
| 21:27.19 | raduga | hrw: uboot |
| 21:27.30 | raduga | zaurus users are, as they are. |
| 21:28.28 | raduga | hrw: zaurus boot system may not be idiot-proof, but it's at least, somewhat idiot-resistant |
| 21:29.34 | raduga | hrw: uboot gives very little feedback when it fails, and seems to be very picky about the format of the media it reads from |
| 21:30.05 | raduga | would be nice, if it gave a hint as to *why* or *where* it gets stuck |
| 21:30.11 | camousse | i don't think i'm a idiot users :-( |
| 21:30.33 | hrw | raduga: make something idiotproof and someone will find better idiot |
| 21:30.41 | raduga | debugging messages would help this.... but wouldn't necessarily help the issue of it hanging to begin wtih |
| 21:30.52 | camousse | when the battery is plug in, the zaurus don't boot |
| 21:30.53 | raduga | hrw: Sharp boot loader is idiot-resistant |
| 21:30.58 | raduga | hrw: uboot is, less so. |
| 21:31.15 | Philippa_ | camousse: the thing to remember when people talk about systems being "idiot-proof" is that most of us're idiots for at least a brief moment sometimes |
| 21:31.16 | hrw | raduga: how many users boot with serial lead attached? |
| 21:32.34 | raduga | i don't expect systems to be idiot-proof (that would be foolish) |
| 21:32.49 | camousse | windows xp? |
| 21:33.06 | raduga | but i have more respect for systems that are more tolerant of a variety of sillly user behaviours. |
| 21:33.41 | Philippa_ | being tolerant of behaviours that a reasonable user could expect to not mess things up is generally good. Hell, expectations in general're important |
| 21:35.20 | camousse | nothing works :-( |
| 21:37.23 | raduga | camousse: i should not have sent you to #oe |
| 21:37.45 | camousse | sorry |
| 21:38.12 | raduga | camousse: i was hoping they could at least tell what the definitive key combos were |
| 21:38.26 | raduga | but, even that isn't really an appropriate matter to discuss in #oe |
| 21:38.37 | hrw | #oe is not a distro support channel |
| 21:38.38 | raduga | hrw: thanks :( |
| 21:38.46 | raduga | hrw: i know :( |
| 21:38.58 | camousse | the only thing that don't boot pdaxrom is the D+C combinaison keys |
| 21:40.09 | raduga | hrw: i frequently ask inappropriate questions in #oe because it seems that the most knowledgeable and insightful people are usually active in the channel. |
| 21:40.18 | raduga | hrw: but the questions still are inappropriate |
| 21:40.28 | raduga | hrw: :( |
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