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| 05:27.11 | sdjf | DrBoB: hi! been a while... |
| 05:30.54 | DrBoB | hiya sdjf |
| 05:33.40 | sdjf | working on a redialer script on #bash |
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| 05:41.04 | DrBoB | nice... |
| 05:41.54 | DrBoB | I'm still hunting a realaudio playback capable version of mplaer that runs on the Z C1000 |
| 05:43.44 | sdjf | DrBoB: my friend is working on one for the sl5500...if we're lucky, maybe it'd work for you too? |
| 05:44.32 | sdjf | DrBoB: I've been testing html editors...none are quite what I want |
| 05:45.42 | sdjf | DrBoB: oh, the cool thing is I solved the problems opera was causing with my dialup modem! I'm a cheshire cat over that one... |
| 05:50.37 | DrBoB | I hope so... although it will probably lack the optimizations for the C1000 CPU stuff (iwmmxt and bvdd) |
| 05:51.09 | sdjf | yeah... |
| 05:51.11 | DrBoB | heh heh....it |
| 05:51.41 | DrBoB | is always nice to solve those puzzles |
| 05:52.10 | sdjf | yeah, it took 8 months! tweaking before I publish... |
| 05:52.21 | DrBoB | One day I am just going to have to "break bad" and set up a cross compiler and roll my own apps from source |
| 05:53.08 | sdjf | hoping it will help lots of people getting frustrated with modems 'initilizing forever' kind of stuff...more than just my distro |
| 05:55.41 | DrBoB | If I could get the streaming multimedia aspects of the saurus ironed out...I would be 100% happy to use it as my only computer |
| 05:55.51 | DrBoB | saurus / zaurus |
| 05:56.30 | DrBoB | and get a flash plugin working in a browser too |
| 05:56.49 | sdjf | and dump the laptop? do everything on it? that can be awfully frustrating |
| 06:03.04 | sdjf | what do you use as a keyboard? how big is the built-in one? I am hoping to get an external one shortly. |
| 06:05.22 | DrBoB | I'm already using the Z to do important stuff like editing my CV and the like |
| 06:05.38 | sdjf | what"s CV? |
| 06:05.58 | sdjf | oh, I know <:( |
| 06:06.08 | DrBoB | and to do all my email |
| 06:06.16 | sdjf | what editor do you like? |
| 06:06.35 | DrBoB | and most of my web browsing |
| 06:07.02 | DrBoB | I think you can use Hancomm word to do HTML editing too |
| 06:07.03 | sdjf | I saw lots of complaints about netfront. it's working for you? |
| 06:07.47 | sdjf | yeah, the built-in texteditor will do html too...any editor will, just some are fancy and help with inserting tags... |
| 06:09.15 | sdjf | I find elvis much faster for lots of stuff....qtopia slows stuff down a lot. |
| 06:15.08 | DrBoB | I think hamcom word speifically lets you save as html |
| 06:15.20 | DrBoB | specifically |
| 06:15.44 | DrBoB | I have both opera and netfront... both work well for different things |
| 06:17.04 | sdjf | which vers of opera? |
| 06:18.54 | DrBoB | netfront works well to render the javascript images like weather doppler radar maps ...opera can't handle that |
| 06:18.54 | DrBoB | Ping reply from calvino.freenode.net : 571.19 second(s) |
| 06:18.55 | DrBoB | sorry..I got major lag here |
| 06:18.57 | DrBoB | I use the c1000 built-in keyboard... it works fine for a two-finger-typist like me |
| 06:20.06 | DrBoB | ..now I wait 500 seconds for the next group of data from the server................ |
| 06:23.30 | DrBoB | whatever the version that is distributed with Cacko ROM |
| 06:23.36 | sdjf | heheehheee |
| 06:24.03 | DrBoB | 1.5 something |
| 06:24.06 | sdjf | 571 seconds is about 11 minutes |
| 06:24.29 | frostschutz | uh |
| 06:24.31 | sdjf | opera would be 6.0 or 7.55 or 8.xx or 9.xx |
| 06:27.08 | sdjf | unless you're using operamini |
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| 06:40.36 | sdjf | DrBoB: I could do closer to 100wpm with a real keyboard...with the two-finger method, I get like max 25-30wpm :-(( |
| 06:41.18 | DrBoB | Ping reply from zelazny.freenode.net : 3.69 second(s) |
| 06:41.23 | DrBoB | that's better |
| 06:41.29 | sdjf | yup |
| 06:41.52 | DrBoB | 25 - 30 wpm is fine for me... |
| 06:42.18 | DrBoB | a real keyboard is actually slower for me typing |
| 06:42.26 | sdjf | I spend 30 min typing something that'd take 10...that eats a lot of extra time for me |
| 06:42.48 | DrBoB | I don't need to type much at all |
| 06:42.51 | sdjf | I can understand the keys are further apart...makes sense |
| 06:43.20 | sdjf | you're doing instant responses now! |
| 06:43.40 | DrBoB | just chat and stuff... but I do't have to type out long reports...I hire transcritionists for that and dictate... |
| 06:43.53 | DrBoB | don't have to ...rather |
| 06:44.23 | sdjf | I type a lot of email and one reply to someone can take an hour or two! |
| 06:44.34 | DrBoB | this is the larger laptop keyboard too.. |
| 06:44.58 | sdjf | I ordered my ps2 cable today... |
| 06:45.22 | DrBoB | heh heh...I would suggest learning to be more compact in communications....lol |
| 06:45.27 | sdjf | probably won't get the keyboard for a couple of weeks |
| 06:45.52 | sdjf | but I have a whole lot of information to share! |
| 06:46.12 | DrBoB | the SL5500 thumbboard just about drove me crazy... all the shifting and stuff |
| 06:46.41 | DrBoB | at least the c1000 has a real qwerty keyboard |
| 06:46.45 | sdjf | my style is wordy, granted, but when I shorten what I write, nobody understands what I'm talking about |
| 06:47.33 | sdjf | I'm doing pretty good with this pared-down qwerty. knowing touch tying does speed up finding the keys with my thumbnails :-)) |
| 06:47.43 | sdjf | ss/tying/typing/ |
| 06:49.04 | sdjf | what annoys me about this is the lack of backslash and backtick on the hard keyboard. I still haven't had any luck with getting keyhelper to work. |
| 06:49.05 | DrBoB | the thumbboard is what kept my SL5500 in a bag..largely unnused |
| 06:49.45 | sdjf | I had to adapt...this is my only connectivity...but it is not easy |
| 06:50.12 | DrBoB | I prefer a clamshell PDA anyway... I don't have to live in fear of a craked screen |
| 06:50.24 | sdjf | ok |
| 06:50.29 | DrBoB | cracked rather |
| 06:51.07 | sdjf | of course, I don't carry mine in a pocket, either...it stays put in it's own cubby-hole. |
| 06:51.26 | sdjf | or on my table or knee |
| 06:51.31 | DrBoB | it's nice to have a regular 640 x 480 screen profile too |
| 06:51.46 | sdjf | I'll bet... |
| 06:52.29 | DrBoB | although, I have to enlarge the test so much that I still need the browser to reconfigure the page layouts |
| 06:52.46 | sdjf | but bet this has lower EMFs too...and that's an important factor |
| 06:52.52 | DrBoB | test / text |
| 06:52.53 | sdjf | what test? |
| 06:52.59 | sdjf | oh hahhaha |
| 06:54.01 | DrBoB | the text is so small that I would need to wear a serious magnifier to be able to read it... |
| 06:54.29 | sdjf | opera has an enlarement scale...didn't you see it? |
| 06:54.31 | DrBoB | so I enlarge the font up to something that I can easily read |
| 06:54.59 | sdjf | the browser compensates okay, doesn't it? |
| 06:55.10 | DrBoB | I use 150% rendering all the time |
| 06:55.36 | sdjf | 100% works ok for me...150 would be tough |
| 06:55.55 | DrBoB | netfront lets you set it as default.... |
| 06:56.25 | sdjf | opera probably does too...just edit opera.ini when you aren't using it |
| 06:56.41 | DrBoB | the C1000 screen is about the same size as a sl5500 turned sideways |
| 06:57.05 | sdjf | the line to change is Scale=100 change it to Scale=150 |
| 06:58.03 | DrBoB | hang on...checking |
| 06:58.30 | sdjf | it's in .opera/opera.ini in your root directory |
| 06:58.40 | sdjf | uh. s/root/home |
| 06:58.57 | DrBoB | got it!! |
| 06:59.07 | sdjf | cool! |
| 06:59.41 | DrBoB | nice... now I don't have to change it manually every time |
| 07:00.02 | sdjf | there's a good page up at my.opera.com telling about the opera.ini settings. I can try to find the url. |
| 07:00.49 | DrBoB | I'll cheack it out later on.... no need to go hunting |
| 07:01.49 | DrBoB | right now I'm using a laptop so I can play NASA TV via realplayer (slackware linux) |
| 07:02.42 | sdjf | I got mine from http://www.opera.com/support/usingopera/operaini/ |
| 07:03.22 | sdjf | was easy to do an ls of my saved webstuff |
| 07:03.44 | sdjf | wow! |
| 07:05.08 | DrBoB | if I could do that with my Z...I would never have to fire up the laptop at all... |
| 07:05.45 | DrBoB | do you have mplayer installed? |
| 07:06.39 | sdjf | no...I didn't bother as it wouldn't do more than the stock player for realaudio, which is what I could use |
| 07:07.35 | DrBoB | try this: "mplayer -playlist http//85.25.138.184:8040/listen.pls |
| 07:07.44 | DrBoB | " |
| 07:08.20 | DrBoB | that will get music streaming over the internet...on the Z with mplayer |
| 07:09.09 | sdjf | yeah, but I'm super sound sensitive so I don't listen much except when I feel really well |
| 07:09.52 | DrBoB | that one is hawaiian music..commercial free |
| 07:10.51 | sdjf | what I have is mpegplayer....but I"ll share that tip with my friend who is working on getting it stream over the 2.38 |
| 07:11.40 | DrBoB | mplayer -playlist http://64.62.252.134:2670/listen.pls is commercial free folk music/independent artist stuff from Talkeetna Alaska |
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| 07:22.37 | sdjf2 | sorry, I tapped suspend! and it took forever to getback on |
| 07:23.06 | sdjf2 | it didn't log me out...I wonder when my nick will free up again? |
| 07:23.19 | DrBoB | :-) |
| 07:24.10 | DrBoB | try /msg nickserv ghost sdjf "password" |
| 07:24.26 | DrBoB | then /nick sdjf |
| 07:24.52 | sdjf2 | I can use this for now...won't it just automatically time out? |
| 07:25.12 | DrBoB | eventually |
| 07:25.58 | DrBoB | but you can change it now ... using the above method |
| 07:26.29 | sdjf2 | I can't stay that much longer anyhow. and it finally gave me an instance where my script failed until I tapped the Connect a second time. |
| 07:26.51 | sdjf2 | I'm tired...took notes to do it if I need to another day. |
| 07:28.12 | DrBoB | cool... get some rest... seeya tomorrow |
| 07:28.21 | sdjf2 | nite... |
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| 07:28.49 | DrBoB | I'm staying up to watch the 2nd spacewalk of the ISS/shuttle mission |
| 07:32.48 | DrBoB | zzzzzz! |
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