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18:05.06systemadmini'm using the 64-0 zimage but when i look at my system memory it only reports 14464 kb in root, why doesn't it show 64000 kb in root?
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21:41.15ScytheBlade1So... my SL-6000 which I just got
21:41.18ScytheBlade1has a japanese ROM
21:41.36ScytheBlade1Anyone know where I can pick up an english one?
21:43.19radugahm.
21:43.30radugathere are a few options scythe
21:43.56radugayou could just change the localization of the Sharp rom you have now, from jp to english
21:44.28ScytheBlade1Oh, cool
21:44.31radugaor you could install an alternative rom, from one of the myriad popular rom development groups
21:44.36ScytheBlade1right
21:45.07radugamind you, OpenZaurus and pdaXrom probably both have more features, and more more flexible, and in ways nicer than the stock Sharp rom
21:45.10radugabut its up to you :)
21:45.39radugaok. by "myriad" its really those two, of note.
21:45.59radugado you want to run a QT desktop, or X?
21:46.29ScytheBlade1Eh...
21:46.32ScytheBlade1I had a Sl-5600
21:46.35ScytheBlade1Only ran a QT one
21:46.51ScytheBlade1But, they both intrest me, and change could be good
21:48.17radugaif you haven't used X before (on a desktop?) you probably won't want or need it on a PDA (imo)
21:48.24radugathough there's more software available for it
21:48.37ScytheBlade1Linux cerberus 2.6.16.11 #2 SMP Sat Apr 29 08:54:28 MDT 2006 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2600+ GNU/Linux
21:48.48ScytheBlade1:)
21:48.50radugawell, its up to you then
21:48.59ScytheBlade1What are the two options?
21:49.34radugaeh, three
21:49.38radugalocalize the sharp rom,
21:49.45radugaOpenZaurus, pdaXrom
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21:50.38radugaOZ has more developers, seems to have more "energy" but pdaXrom has (on the platforms I've used it) been more useable
21:50.45radugaOZ is QT and X
21:50.49radugapdaXrom is X-only
21:51.10radugaalso, oz people hate pdaX people, pdaX people hate oz people
21:51.32radugaif you choose either, you will be hated by someone ;)
21:51.46ScytheBlade1haha
21:51.48ScytheBlade1I run gentoo ;)
21:51.51ScytheBlade1I'm hated by many ;)
21:52.35raduga#openzaurus and #cacko
21:52.46radugaalso, http://www.oesf.org/forums
21:54.01ScytheBlade1bah, I think I've plugged in my WEP key wrong...
21:57.00ScytheBlade1joy, I can't get my wifi to come up.
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22:10.58ScytheBlade1lol, I dropped a 2GB SD card in it
22:11.07ScytheBlade1and it looks like it's nearly locked up
22:11.33ScytheBlade1it hasn't, but it's taking it's time
22:15.04radugascytheblade1: Sharp rom doesn't support 2gb SD cards
22:15.13ScytheBlade1Oh :(
22:15.30radugai'm not even sure if there are any Tosa drivers at all, on any rom
22:15.40ScytheBlade1dmesg was giving me partitioning crap, I was thinking I just had to format it
22:15.59radugasash has one for Cxk, and I believe one for Cx0
22:16.18raduganot sure what OE/OZ has (probably should have support soon, if not already)
22:16.28radugabut that might be for platforms other than tosa. ask in #oe
22:16.36ScytheBlade1Any reason they *don't* have support for it?
22:16.48radugaheh.
22:17.14raduga2gb+ cards use a different protocol, or api, I believe
22:17.17raduganot sure exactly
22:17.21ScytheBlade1Odd
22:17.23ScytheBlade1They shouldn't be
22:17.25ScytheBlade1But, whatever
22:17.34radugabut MOST devices you find that are more than a year or two old,
22:17.38radugawill not use 2gb SD cards
22:17.45ScytheBlade1I've got a 2002 camera
22:17.48radugaonly very recent ones, anywhere.
22:17.49ScytheBlade1That sees it all and supports it
22:18.02radugayou are pretty fortunate then :)
22:18.11ScytheBlade1I'll take it for granted ;)
22:18.28radugaanything older than 2002, I would be extremely surprised if they were able to see it
22:18.44radugabut ask in #oe, they are smarter than here (and smarter than me)
22:19.01ScytheBlade1Do I still *have* to use a CF card to flash?
22:19.08ScytheBlade1because I don't want to erase my CF card...
22:20.24radugayou'll need a CF or SD card that runs with native sharp drivers
22:20.49radugadefinitely won't be able to flash from your 2GB sd card
22:21.03radugaand you shouldn't need to erase your whole CF card;
22:21.22radugajust so long as there's enough room on it to put the image files in the root,
22:21.32ScytheBlade1Well, the CF card has about 2MB full (it's running the OS in my embedded router)
22:21.33radugaand so long as its formatted for fat
22:21.46raduga2mb free?
22:22.02radugaget another card ;)  they're cheap
22:22.04ScytheBlade1Meh
22:22.06ScytheBlade1I'm cheap ;)
22:22.13ScytheBlade1(But I have a SL-6000... don't contradict me!)
22:22.20ScytheBlade1;)
22:23.21radugahttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820233002
22:25.59radugaor heck, 256mb not enough?
22:26.06radugaget a 512mb CF card:
22:26.07radugahttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820183152
22:26.18raduga$16.88 plus shipping
22:28.07ScytheBlade1Well, I DO have a 1GB SD card and a 2GB SD card
22:28.13ScytheBlade1512MB isn't enough, typically ;)
22:28.23radugato flash? sure it is.
22:28.31ScytheBlade1Well, I'll give you that
22:29.11radugai'm not completely sure, anyway. the tosa might only flash from CF (I haven't used one, I'm not utterly certain)
22:29.35radugac-series can flash from both cf and sd
22:30.19ScytheBlade1haha
22:30.24ScytheBlade1I just got it to flash from SD
22:30.28ScytheBlade1(tosa)
22:36.57subdhttp://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Applications_that_run_on_the_6000L/Sharp_ROM
22:37.27subdhttp://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=6000_ROMs
22:38.02subdsd for apps, cf for devices
22:38.16subdno need to reformat the card
22:38.32ScytheBlade1heh, thank you much
22:52.44ScytheBlade1and yeah, the keymap is really broken
22:52.50ScytheBlade1Like, broken broken
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