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| 01:12.46 | andrewy | i just got a zaurus, does the USB cradle charge it, or do I have to use the power cord? |
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| 01:30.35 | andrewy | ohhh, the power cord plugs into the back of the cradle too. heh |
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| 08:37.32 | lindenle | is oz a full linux distribution? |
| 09:00.22 | ThC_ | depends on what you call "a full linux distribution" but |
| 09:00.26 | ThC_ | I guess it is ;) |
| 09:00.49 | lindenle | ok for instance pdaXrom seems to be a full linux distro ported to arm ro me |
| 09:00.53 | lindenle | is it like that |
| 09:00.56 | ThC_ | as it uses it's own build system and includes a kernel, a X-windows system or Opie etc ... |
| 09:01.10 | lindenle | ok so it is sort of the same |
| 09:01.21 | ThC_ | yep |
| 09:01.37 | ThC_ | btw both are not "ported" to arm ... they are native arm distribs |
| 09:01.51 | ThC_ | as there was no x86 distro named pdaXrom or openzaurus before ;) |
| 09:02.04 | lindenle | fair enough |
| 09:02.25 | lindenle | what does oz use for package management ipkg? |
| 09:02.30 | ThC_ | even if now, pdaXrom does have an x86 version and the openembedded build system would probably support building a distro for x86 too |
| 09:02.57 | ThC_ | they use ipkg, but I think it's a slightly different version from sharp/cacko and pdaXrom ones |
| 09:03.03 | lindenle | k |
| 09:03.15 | lindenle | ThC_: which do you use? |
| 09:03.36 | lindenle | i am very happy with pdaXrom but i am thinking of checking out oz |
| 09:03.47 | ThC_ | I do use pdaXrom as I'm working on porting it on c3000 ;) |
| 09:04.00 | lindenle | k |
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| 11:14.15 | Varoudis | sorry that was greek :P |
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| 15:49.57 | prh | any of you guys seen a CF card with both BT and WIFI? |
| 15:52.03 | pgas | no |
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| 21:15.02 | flipouk | hi |
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| 22:23.44 | andrewy | I just installed the latest rom for my 5500/collie, and now qtopia desktop won't let me sync, even though i'm doing everything exactly like i did it with the old rom. does anyone know how to fix this so i can sync? |
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| 22:48.20 | tosa | hi |
| 22:52.19 | flipouk | andrewy: what latest rom? |
| 22:52.38 | flipouk | afaik the latest for the 550 is 2 years old |
| 22:52.50 | flipouk | is there yet a new one? |
| 22:53.05 | flipouk | i'd be surprised knowing that the 550 has been discontinued |
| 22:53.15 | flipouk | the latets I have has a kernel 2.4.18 |
| 22:53.21 | flipouk | rom 3.10 I think |
| 22:53.23 | andrewy | yeah, thats it |
| 22:53.27 | andrewy | 2.4.18 |
| 22:53.30 | flipouk | ok |
| 22:53.39 | andrewy | i need qtopia desktop to install a file manager to rename a file on the cf card to flash OZ :/ |
| 22:54.10 | flipouk | I dont know about qtopia desktop |
| 22:54.15 | flipouk | brb |
| 22:57.15 | andrewy | do you know of any other way to get access to the actual filesystem? |
| 22:57.19 | andrewy | all i need to do is rename a file |
| 23:02.54 | flipouk | soory i am back now |
| 23:02.58 | flipouk | well yes |
| 23:03.05 | flipouk | you can ftp to it |
| 23:03.26 | flipouk | by default there an ftp server running on port 4242 if i remember well |
| 23:03.41 | flipouk | hang on |
| 23:06.18 | Hhhhh | you mean 5500? |
| 23:06.30 | flipouk | no ftp port 4242 |
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| 23:06.45 | Hhhhh | I mean, the model is 5500? you guys were saying 550 |
| 23:07.50 | flipouk | sorry Hhhhh, yes 5500 |
| 23:08.42 | flipouk | I just tried... |
| 23:08.58 | flipouk | this hack doesn't seem to work with rom 3.10 anymore |
| 23:09.03 | flipouk | :( |
| 23:09.54 | flipouk | What I do to transfer files on my zaurus: |
| 23:10.44 | flipouk | I install openssh on the zaurus and I connect in konqueror with sftp://zaurus |
| 23:10.48 | andrewy | didnt know ftp worked |
| 23:10.58 | flipouk | otherwise, there is a simpler way: |
| 23:11.03 | flipouk | use a CF card ?) |
| 23:11.24 | andrewy | what user flipouk ? |
| 23:11.24 | flipouk | andrewy: doesn't seem to work with rom 3.10 |
| 23:11.31 | flipouk | :( |
| 23:11.36 | andrewy | oh :( |
| 23:11.43 | flipouk | user is 'zaurus' by default, no pw |
| 23:11.58 | andrewy | yeah, doesnt work with this rom |
| 23:12.04 | flipouk | soory |
| 23:12.10 | andrewy | it is on the cf card, but i dont have a cf reader |
| 23:17.09 | Hhhhh | flipouk, is it possible to move files from the PC to a CF card using the zaurus in its cradle? |
| 23:17.17 | Hhhhh | or you need a cf reader? |
| 23:18.53 | andrewy | it is with qtopia desktop, dunno about the windows software |
| 23:19.09 | flipouk | Hhhhh: well if you can move the files to the zaurus, you can move them to the CF :) |
| 23:19.36 | Pendalar | I don't remember, but try hooking up the zaurus w/o installing the sync soft |
| 23:19.37 | Hhhhh | flipouk, so, if I wanna flash the rom, I can move the files to the zaurus and then to the CF? |
| 23:19.43 | Hhhhh | and then do the flashing? |
| 23:19.44 | Pendalar | some PDA's show up as removable drives |
| 23:20.02 | flipouk | Hhhhh: yes |
| 23:20.04 | Pendalar | if you have enough free memory |
| 23:20.21 | flipouk | Pendalar: unfortunately not the zaurus :( |
| 23:20.32 | Hhhhh | ok, tomorrow I should get a 5500 with a 128MB SD card and a 32 CF card |
| 23:20.52 | Hhhhh | can I move from computer to sd card in zaurus directly? |
| 23:20.52 | flipouk | Hhhhh: cool! |
| 23:20.57 | Hhhhh | and then from sd to cf? |
| 23:21.11 | flipouk | Hhhhh: yes |
| 23:21.16 | Hhhhh | flipouk, thx |
| 23:21.37 | flipouk | at least if you can have the Z and you computer talk to each other |
| 23:21.41 | Hhhhh | flipouk, probably it'll come with sharp rom in it, I'll play with it for a while and then i'll flash another rom |
| 23:21.49 | flipouk | that seems to be the problem for andrewy |
| 23:21.59 | Hhhhh | well, I'll get cradle and also linksys wifi card |
| 23:22.00 | flipouk | Hhhhh: ok |
| 23:22.06 | Hhhhh | gotcha |
| 23:22.12 | flipouk | If ou have a wifi card then you set |
| 23:22.18 | Hhhhh | nice ;) |
| 23:22.42 | flipouk | you can talk tcp/ip to the zaurus as if it were another linux box |
| 23:23.13 | flipouk | you can even transfer files via the internet |
| 23:23.46 | flipouk | I havent used the cradle once since i have my wifi card |
| 23:23.59 | Hhhhh | flipouk, for charging? |
| 23:24.05 | Hhhhh | oh, AC adapter |
| 23:24.10 | Hhhhh | I think I have that too |
| 23:24.53 | flipouk | you better have an AC adapter indeed :) |
| 23:25.07 | Hhhhh | flipouk, I won this on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=5851103586 |
| 23:25.16 | flipouk | the battery life is poor when you do a lot of wifi |
| 23:25.17 | Hhhhh | is it a reasonable price, considering the goodies? |
| 23:25.22 | Hhhhh | I heard |
| 23:26.57 | Hhhhh | is it a good price? |
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