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02:27.37jcurryi try to install something with ipkg, and wget downloads it, but then ipkg says it could not find the file in /home/tmp/ipkg, "i'll leave it there for you to install manually"...but it is not there
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02:34.06Tomoehow are you gentlemen
02:34.37jcurryhi
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16:03.47TomoeHow are you gentlemen
16:09.53VladDracwhat you say?
16:11.36wayneit's you
16:16.52VladDracHAHAHAHA
16:17.37wayneyou have no chance to survive make your time
16:18.21TomoeGOATSE!
16:18.27Tomoehy wayne long time no type
16:18.37waynewe were doing some CLEAN fun
16:18.43wayneyou're ruining it in my mind
16:18.52waynehi tomoe :)
16:19.10Tomoewayne, pls2teach beatboxing
16:19.12Tomoe*ducks*
16:19.17Tomoeoh btw gents
16:19.23TomoeI'm very happy today
16:19.25Tomoewhy?
16:19.31TomoeI bought a happy keyboard
16:19.40TomoeHappy Hacking Keyboard Pro
16:19.47TomoeBlank
16:19.49waynecool, i got a targus for mine i can't type as fast as i wish
16:20.01Tomoeworks with zaurus too =)
16:20.04wayneTomoe: yeah like DasKeyboard or something
16:20.11Tomoeyeah similar
16:20.14waynewell not with mine, i need an IR keyboard, hence the TARGUS
16:20.19Tomoeonly this is the unix-type keyboard
16:21.00Tomoectrl in the place of caps and no function keys/PgUpPgDown/cursor keys/numpad
16:21.30Tomoealso
16:21.37TomoeI haxxed the C3k builtin dict
16:21.47Tomoenow it works on c1k too
16:21.50Tomoeand on alternative roms
16:21.56Tomoemaking ipk at the moment
16:22.07Tomoelol@encrypted dictionary files =(
16:23.12waynethink you could hack IRK to implement dead keys? :)
16:23.35Tomoelol
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16:24.19Tomoedon't need it, don't use it, so
16:24.19Tomoe=P
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17:04.07S1nn3rello all
17:07.39S1nn3ranyone alive ?
17:15.34Tomoe$B#h#y(B
17:15.52Tomoeerm
17:15.56Tomoehy S1nn3r
17:17.03S1nn3rrather.. dead in here for 40 or so ppl, it get better later ? heh
17:18.32S1nn3rmay be getting a Z 3100 soon
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17:22.12S1nn3rhi timelord
17:23.29wayneS1nn3r: everyone is idliing
17:27.26S1nn3rah
17:28.18TomoeS1nn3r, so what's your point?
17:33.16S1nn3rwell ive found a hell of alot of infomation on everything exept for 2 things
17:34.21S1nn3rbigist concern is the screen realy, how durable is it ? being that you have to use the stylus on it and all ?
17:36.32waynethe designers of the product realized that you would use the stylus in it
17:36.52waynei don't know anyone, not have i ever met any, that had a defective screen on a pda, any brand any age
17:37.10waynei wouldn't be too worried unless you plan on dropping it on concrete from the 2nd storey
17:37.40S1nn3ralso the large amount of choice in non offical ROM's is pretty confuseing.. from what ive read Cacko is the one that is the most stable, but i cant find any infomation as to what exactly Cacko improves on over the Sharp ROM ..
17:37.48wayneseriously, all pdas with touchscreen have an extra protective glass panel between the lcd and the touchpad
17:38.58S1nn3ri see, so with normal use with the sharp stylus i shouldnt need a screen protector or anything ?
17:39.04waynebtw, the cacko rom isn't for the 3100, it's for the 5000 and 5500 models
17:39.23Tomoewayne, wtf?
17:39.42wayneexact, you would not need any extra protection. screens are vulnerable to scratches though, but the protective sheets are usually crappy so it's not worth it
17:40.12Tomoewayne, cacko rom was available for models up to 860 for a long time
17:40.25Tomoeand the 1.0 for cxk models came out this week
17:40.31Tomoemonday
17:40.40S1nn3rthought last cacko version had 3100 compat ..
17:40.41Tomoeor last monday I don't remember lol
17:40.55TomoeS1nn3r, our wayne here is a bit old-school
17:40.57Tomoe=)
17:41.05waynemeh
17:41.12TomoeS1nn3r, anyways, on subject of cacko's improvements
17:41.17Tomoethere's no big improvement
17:41.19waynethe cacko website doesn't mention the 3100
17:41.21Tomoeall slight mods
17:41.32wayneoh wait
17:41.33wayneyes it does
17:41.39Tomoebut combined they bring a lot more pleasurable experience
17:41.41waynei was viewwing the mirror site
17:41.47waynebecause the cacko website is the worst ISP ever
17:41.57Tomoefor example you can overclock with ease
17:42.12Tomoeall network cards are supported out-of-the-box
17:42.35licksjpTomoe, hello
17:42.36Tomoeyou get the essential cmdline utils
17:42.39Tomoehy licksjp
17:42.50TomoeS1nn3r, and so on and so on
17:42.55S1nn3rTomoe: i see, would any of the mods in cacko be relivent to useing the 3100 as a PMP ?, or is there another ROM set that would be more appropriate for that ?
17:42.59licksjpwere u tryed to do my soft?,Tomoe
17:43.05Tomoelicksjp, not yet
17:43.17TomoeS1nn3r, cacko has a different kernel than regular rom
17:43.28Tomoeit supports iwwmxt extensions of cxk processor
17:43.36Tomoeso the video performance is better
17:43.44Tomoevideos play good on it
17:43.50Tomoeand the player is pre-tweaked
17:44.06Tomoeas for mp3s
17:44.18Tomoeyou get only the default sharp media app
17:44.21Tomoebut I don
17:44.36Tomoe*don't listen to music on my sharp so it's not important for me
17:44.43Tomoeon pdaxrom you could use xmms and such
17:44.45waynesharp player suck :(
17:45.36S1nn3rTomoe: so as far as big features id use Cacko would get me better video playback, and better wireless support pretty much ?
17:45.45Tomoeyes
17:45.46Tomoewell
17:45.53Tomoebetter _anything_
17:46.06Tomoeyou will lose the japanese dictionary app tho
17:46.08Tomoedon't know if you use it
17:46.12S1nn3rnah ..
17:46.15Tomoek then
17:46.21TomoeI'm preparing an ipk for that anyways
17:46.26wayneS1nn3r: Pehaps you should read the website http://my-zaurus.narod.ru/cacko.html
17:47.15Tomoewayne, ipk format is : dir structure and files in data.tar.gz, the conf file (Name,maintainer and such) in control.tar.gz and echo 2.0 > debian ?
17:47.17Tomoeright?
17:47.42wayneyeah that's pretty much it
17:48.01S1nn3rjust want a PMP, that also can do a little more then a PMP can do, with the option of adding plenty of stuff to it, looked at the archos stuff but nonone seems to be developing for that or hacking etc it much
17:48.35S1nn3rwere as the Z's have seemingly an ungodly amout of stuff to do with them heh
17:48.37TomoeS1nn3r, well I plan to use my z as a laptop replacement
17:48.55Tomoemy setup is slowly coming to a usable state =)
17:49.12Tomoestill need to setup ScummVM
17:49.18Tomoeand one japanese map application
17:49.21Tomoeand that's about it
17:49.29Tomoethen it's just tweaking
17:50.02S1nn3rTomoe: which Z do you have ?
17:50.05Tomoeoh wayne I managed to connect to a wpa wlan with eap-peap / mschapv2 with my z
17:50.08TomoeS1nn3r, c1k
17:50.33Tomoewith usb host cable, Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro Blank Charcoal Gray
17:50.46TomoeSony HD3 MP3 player as external storage
17:50.59Tomoeand prism3 cf wifi
17:51.10Tomoeand sd cards, of course =)
17:51.31wayneTomoe: that's cool
17:51.39waynei still run my home lan at wep104 eh :)
17:51.45wayneand i don't plan on changing
17:51.49Tomoewayne, this is my uni network
17:51.56wayneahh ok
17:51.56Tomoeso I was forced to find a way
17:51.59Tomoebut it was worth it
17:52.07Tomoethe whole campus is covered in wifi
17:52.09S1nn3rstrange thing is ive been looking for a PMP/mini laptop type thing for months.. and stumbled across the 3xxx's compleatly by accident
17:52.13wayneah that rocks
17:52.33Tomoenothing better than sitting on a lawn after a meal and chatting a bit under the warm japanese sun =)
17:52.46wayneS1nn3r: being japan-only models that are "fitted" in english, it's not surprising you didn't know about them
17:53.01wayneyeah japanese sun is so much better than american sun
17:53.10wayneup here in canada, our sun is square
17:53.20Tomoewell
17:53.25Tomoeuse your canadian zaurus then
17:53.28Tomoe=P
17:53.30wayne:)
17:53.33waynei do actually
17:53.36wayne5600
17:53.42Tomoehehe
17:53.45Tomoeit's still jap
17:53.46Tomoe=P
17:53.51waynesure
17:54.04waynebut with french accents
17:54.29S1nn3rfound a place here in the UK that is selling the 3100 for £550 or so .. sounds like a good price indeed for a gadget like the 3100
17:54.41Tomoe550 what?
17:54.47Tomoepounds?
17:54.51Tomoeusd?>
17:54.54wayneit's an okay price
17:55.59Tomoewayne, btw it is lol to ride a japanese train while scanning
17:56.28TomoeI picked up like a 100aps on a 8min train ride
17:56.32Tomoe*an
17:57.16Tomoeanyways I think I'm gonna head off to bed now
17:57.35S1nn3rwayne: the system is fully converted, with proper AC adapter and CE certifiction to .. and a warrenty/tech support
17:57.44Tomoebtw those replacement metal stylii for z suck some major male reproductive organ
17:57.56TomoeI bought one
17:58.01Tomoethe head broke
17:58.10Tomoeit split in three pieces
17:58.17Tomoeso I buy another one today
17:58.27Tomoeand head for alt.2600 meet
17:58.32Tomoeand there I drop it
17:58.36Tomoeand the head breaks
17:58.37Tomoelol
17:59.19S1nn3rheh, so the metal stylus isnt worth getting then ?
18:00.05Tomoeno it's very good
18:00.15TomoeI just don't like the fact that it's so fragile
18:00.22Tomoethe tip is made of plastic
18:00.26Tomoethat part tends to break
18:00.41Tomoeso if you get one take care of it =)
18:00.48Tomoewow I'm getting good on this keybo
18:00.56Tomoeit's so much better than my laptop keyboard
18:00.58Tomoe<3
18:01.36S1nn3rfiglabs is the place im thinking of getting one from btw
18:02.16Tomoehow much does it cost?
18:04.49S1nn3r£539 for the 3100, £50 for the Planex GW CF 11X Wifi card and Weighted sylus is £10 .. they have the pentopia one to for £20
18:05.13Tomoeis that in dollars or pounds?
18:06.25S1nn3rpounds
18:07.00Tomoepricy
18:07.39Tomoethe weighted stylus is 420 yen here, that's around 3,9 dollars
18:08.12Tomoelicksjp, I will let you know when I check your software, ok?
18:08.51S1nn3rwell what can i said, UK is a bit of a ripoff for computer stuff often, and this is exotic imported computer stuff so its gonna be even more so heh
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