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| 01:15.32 | Tomoe | lol hy |
| 01:50.36 | DeathWo1f | weird... qpdf1 displayed the background of the pdf fine, and the font not fine |
| 01:50.40 | DeathWo1f | and qpdf2 does the opposite |
| 01:51.58 | DeathWo1f | btw, is there anyway in opie to auto hide in some way the bottom bar? |
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| 01:58.09 | licksjp | Tomoe, hello |
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| 03:16.40 | Tomoe | hy licksjp |
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| 03:56.46 | zuery | hi .... |
| 03:56.57 | zuery | anyone around? |
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| 05:26.10 | ryoohki | hello, anyone? |
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| 06:41.34 | zuery | how do i compile qte apps in pdaxrom? |
| 06:45.33 | ryoohki | zuery, can you go to a shell prompt? |
| 06:46.06 | ryoohki | zuery, if so, install a gcc compiler like: zgcc-3.3.1.tar.bz2 |
| 06:47.05 | ryoohki | zuery, compile away! i would think... you really should consult someone who has done that before |
| 06:47.22 | ryoohki | zuery, do you know if a 2.6 kernel is available? |
| 06:54.28 | zuery | ryoohki: which z you have? |
| 07:20.46 | ryoohki | zuery, sl-c760 |
| 07:24.09 | zuery | yes... sl-c760 is supported for c760 .. u need to use OZ .. |
| 07:25.34 | ryoohki | the sharp rom sucks |
| 07:26.02 | ryoohki | qpe sucks, except for the software it can run, but x and straight linux can run more |
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| 07:27.07 | ryoohki | zuery, which oz rom? are they any good? i was planning on running X/Qt Server http://sourceforge.jp/projects/xqt |
| 07:29.46 | zuery | ya... they are good... if u can .. try it.. |
| 07:30.00 | zuery | u won't know until u try it... |
| 07:31.26 | zuery | i'm using pdaxrom rc11... learning crosscompiling... OE. is simple.. but can't learn much of crosscompiling.. |
| 07:32.56 | zuery | sharp rom.. is ok... but mostly for japanese user... coz its user base are more... |
| 07:42.25 | ryoohki | zuery, i was recomended to use pdaxrom by tomoe - she said they were 2.6 |
| 07:42.40 | Tomoe | *he |
| 07:42.40 | ryoohki | zuery, i looked and couldn't find anything there |
| 07:43.19 | Tomoe | zuery, you're correct, only reason I'm keeping sharprom is japanese ime + one program I use to practice kanji |
| 07:43.30 | ryoohki | zuery, what is pdaxrom's selling points and caveats? |
| 07:43.58 | ryoohki | zuery, me too, i installed kanjinirvana and can't get it to work right - rotation is off |
| 07:44.07 | Tomoe | ryoohki, ? |
| 07:44.28 | Tomoe | you mean it starts in 640x480 mode instead of 240x320? |
| 07:44.28 | ryoohki | zuery, what zaurus are you using? |
| 07:45.01 | zuery | SL-C1000 |
| 07:46.10 | zuery | i'm not sure... about C760... but 2.6 in C760.. is pretty stable... |
| 07:47.12 | zuery | pdaxrom ... in my opinion ... they more focus on getting things to work... |
| 07:47.32 | ryoohki | Tomoe, no, the rotation of kanjinirvana is off: http://www.wbcd.org/computing/zaurus/part_12.html |
| 07:48.02 | ryoohki | zuery, i want sound |
| 07:48.09 | Tomoe | ryoohki, I still don't get you |
| 07:48.16 | Tomoe | you mean it starts horizontally? |
| 07:48.17 | zuery | OZ ... focus mostly build engine and latest software ... |
| 07:49.27 | ryoohki | zuery, i also want to run software, like http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=1&osId=239&jid=D9E77C83XX2D32D8CC113DA1CE5883E7&platformId=12&productId=62516 |
| 07:49.28 | zuery | ryooki.. u can try scim in pdaxrom.. |
| 07:49.45 | ryoohki | zuery, scim? |
| 07:49.57 | zuery | well.. off the shelf program are mostly for sharp rom... |
| 07:50.22 | zuery | its all about libraries...and environment.. |
| 07:50.50 | ryoohki | zuery, maybe i can dual boot - i heard it's posible |
| 07:51.23 | ryoohki | zuery, google -> SCIM (Smart Common Input Method platform) - http://www.scim-im.org/ |
| 07:51.24 | zuery | ryoohki: i won't know whether that software will run on pdaxrom or oz .. |
| 07:51.54 | zuery | ryoohki: its CJK input system |
| 07:52.25 | ryoohki | zuery, can the sl-c860-1.40jp rom run on the 760? does it fix any bugs? would it be the latest rom? i have sl-c76-1.20jp right now and no bugs i can think of |
| 07:55.13 | ryoohki | zuery, still it's tempting to upgrade when i know there is one |
| 07:56.53 | ryoohki | zuery, which is closer to the sl-c760? the sl-c5600 or the sl-c6000? which one is a pxa255 400mhz? |
| 07:57.40 | zuery | ryoohki: dual-boot... well... it should work.. sooner or later.. but whats the point.. u must choose one.. and improve it.. |
| 07:59.10 | ryoohki | hmm, never mind, it's the sl-c6000 |
| 07:59.42 | ryoohki | zuery, don't want to give up certain programs |
| 08:00.45 | zuery | ryoohki: u should use which one suit u the most... |
| 08:01.47 | ryoohki | zuery, yeah, but i so dislike 2.4 nowadays |
| 08:01.48 | zuery | c760 .. got pxa 255 and pxa 250...c8xx is pxa 255... 5600 is old ones.. |
| 08:02.13 | ryoohki | zuery, i know, i found answer by googling |
| 08:02.33 | zuery | ryoohki: ya.. google.. is the best |
| 08:02.38 | ryoohki | zuery, have you seen openbsd for zaurus - now that is cool |
| 08:03.02 | zuery | ryoohki: ya.. its cool.. but no point... |
| 08:03.24 | ryoohki | zuery, i'd like to see qpe as an addon like wine so can still run the occasional off-the-shelf software |
| 08:03.36 | ryoohki | zuery, the swapping must suck |
| 08:04.08 | ryoohki | zuery, i want to run 3g phone network most of the time with voip and firefox |
| 08:04.09 | zuery | ryoohki: in pda.. i don't think u need a super secure system... linux itself already long way to go.. |
| 08:05.16 | zuery | ryoohki: i think.. without corporate telco help.. i don't think you will have a gd 3g apps.. |
| 08:05.25 | ryoohki | zuery, i am mostly concerned with size and unix interface - bash + shell utilities + vi + emacs + sed + awk + ruby |
| 08:05.54 | ryoohki | zuery, bypass telcos and run voip |
| 08:06.54 | zuery | ryoohki: concern? most of the apps u mention should run in Z |
| 08:07.05 | zuery | even the latest version.. |
| 08:08.05 | ryoohki | zuery, sure, only not firefox, also rom is from 2003 and looking old |
| 08:08.32 | zuery | GUI interface... well... i think should be quite easy to port gtk and qt apps... just screen size problem.. |
| 08:09.27 | zuery | ryoohki: well.. luckly we got people still hacking the 2.6 kernel for Z... |
| 08:10.02 | zuery | ryoohki: Intel should have put hardware FP in their PXA architecture.. |
| 08:10.37 | zuery | ryoohki: apps compile with hardware FP cannot work with software FP... GCC... sob sob.. |
| 08:13.28 | ryoohki | zuery, no FP in PXA on purpose - low power, FP would chew up battery |
| 08:14.05 | ryoohki | zuery, app should not know it FP is in hardware or software |
| 08:14.59 | ryoohki | zuery, we have people to hack 2.6 on zaurus because the hardware is cool and it is challenging |
| 08:15.15 | zuery | mmm... ryoohki: true also... sharp should have put 2700g 3d accelerator |
| 08:15.47 | ryoohki | zuery, would prefer 2d accel for playing divx movies and music videos |
| 08:17.21 | ryoohki | zuery, where are the speakers located on this thing? |
| 08:17.52 | zuery | speakers? open up and see... :P |
| 08:20.10 | ryoohki | zuery, one of the speakers doubles as a microphone but it isn't very good the picking up sound |
| 08:20.28 | ryoohki | zuery, so how is your japanese? |
| 08:20.29 | zuery | ryoohki: i use sharp rom before... mplayer and sdl apps give gd fps... |
| 08:20.50 | zuery | ryoohki: but apps run slow... |
| 08:21.32 | zuery | ryoohki: i'm not a japanese, i know a bit through anime ... :) |
| 08:22.01 | ryoohki | zuery, so do i - "ryoohki" |
| 08:23.30 | zuery | ryoohki: u should try x/qt |
| 08:25.34 | ryoohki | yeah, i was > zuery, which oz rom? are they any good? i was planning on running X/Qt Server |
| 08:27.01 | zuery | well.. try hentges OZ... |
| 08:27.47 | zuery | bitbake..ones.. too many things to configure... not like pdaxrom.. plug and play :) |
| 08:31.31 | ryoohki | zuery, old unix hand - not mind configuring |
| 08:33.28 | zuery | ryoohki: u must try... then u will know... |
| 08:34.08 | zuery | ryoohki: u can always revert back to sharp rom :) |
| 08:38.18 | zuery | ryoohki: i just compile chmlib... hehehe... hopefully i can get xchm working... |
| 08:39.28 | zuery | it feel great.. when u get something patch and it manage to compiled.. |
| 08:56.18 | ryoohki | zuery, xchm? |
| 08:56.28 | ryoohki | zuery, linux is fun |
| 08:56.33 | ryoohki | zuery, try ruby |
| 08:56.55 | ryoohki | where is qtsamba started from? |
| 08:59.35 | zuery | er... donno :) |
| 09:01.02 | zuery | wow... xchm works.. |
| 09:01.10 | zuery | now i can see chm files :) |
| 09:01.32 | zuery | later i'll post it to oesf... |
| 09:02.29 | ryoohki | zuery, where is qtsamba started from? |
| 09:02.36 | ryoohki | i want to turn it off |
| 09:02.58 | zuery | try look in /etc |
| 09:03.05 | zuery | rc.d |
| 09:03.09 | zuery | init.d |
| 09:03.47 | zuery | move it away... i don't have sharp rom .. ryoohki.. so i don't actually know |
| 09:09.57 | ryoohki | zuery, i think qpe may be starting it up |
| 09:13.07 | zuery | ryoohki: well.. u need to check the qte ... i'm not familiar with sharp qtopia... |
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| 09:28.24 | ryoohki | need to sleep |
| 09:28.25 | ryoohki | bye a;; |
| 09:28.58 | zuery | ok... |
| 09:29.04 | zuery | bye bye ryoohki... |
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| 12:52.26 | Tomoe | HY KQ |
| 12:52.38 | wayne | hey Tomoe |
| 12:52.41 | wayne | or anyone else alive here |
| 12:52.43 | Tomoe | hy wayne |
| 12:52.47 | Tomoe | how's it going |
| 12:53.14 | wayne | Anyone knows of a relatively good word processor software for Zaurus? Preferably free, but i'm considering TextMaker |
| 12:53.29 | wayne | I basiucally want to take notes with it, but Hancom Word is just too simplistic |
| 12:53.42 | Tomoe | vim |
| 12:53.44 | wayne | and i'm doing fine :) How are you Tomoe ? |
| 12:53.46 | Tomoe | *ducks* |
| 12:53.48 | wayne | ehhe |
| 12:54.12 | Tomoe | me too, fell asleep after coming back from school, just woke up couple minutes ago |
| 12:54.23 | wayne | learning curve for vim is quite big |
| 12:54.33 | Tomoe | big? |
| 12:54.40 | Tomoe | as in steep? |
| 12:54.43 | Tomoe | well it is |
| 12:54.48 | Tomoe | but it goes fast |
| 12:54.50 | Tomoe | lol |
| 12:54.52 | wayne | right |
| 12:55.09 | Tomoe | I wonder how writing in emacs would work |
| 12:55.17 | wayne | but as of right now, my current available time for things like this is below zero :) |
| 12:55.23 | Tomoe | when you need to do a 3 or 4 key combo hehe |
| 12:55.28 | Tomoe | on z |
| 12:55.32 | Tomoe | sick |
| 12:55.39 | wayne | i'll use a full keyboard |
| 12:56.02 | wayne | but i need something that i can at least draw a few simple diagrams with, to structure a bit what i'll write |
| 12:56.13 | wayne | i tried "FreeNote" or something, and writing text in that is insane |
| 12:56.45 | licksjp | Tomoe, hello |
| 12:57.43 | Tomoe | well I don't use writing software much on the z so can't help you with that wayne |
| 12:57.44 | Tomoe | sry |
| 12:57.47 | Tomoe | hy licksjp |
| 12:58.00 | licksjp | Tomoe, what's cooking? |
| 12:58.20 | Tomoe | TORI NO ASHI |
| 13:00.21 | wayne | Tomoe: allright, thanks |
| 13:01.51 | Tomoe | hehe |
| 13:02.09 | Tomoe | I bet my neighbours are going 'wtf?' now |
| 13:02.17 | Tomoe | I'm practicing some beatboxing sounds |
| 13:03.36 | wayne | use hadphones :) |
| 13:03.59 | Tomoe | no, I'm making the sounds, that's the problem =)) |
| 13:04.47 | wayne | .. what kind of walls does your house have ?!! |
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| 13:05.05 | Tomoe | wayne, I'm in a japanese dormitory |
| 13:05.14 | Tomoe | = no sound isolation lol |
| 13:05.17 | wayne | yipes :) |
| 13:05.34 | Tomoe | my friend was complaining how he can hear his neighbour masturbating every morning |
| 13:06.06 | Tomoe | I guess my neighbours should be lucky that I'm only farting through my lips =) |
| 13:06.31 | wayne | beatbox sounds shouldn't sound like farting :) |
| 13:06.51 | Tomoe | sir that's why I'm practicing |
| 13:06.52 | Tomoe | =P |
| 13:07.05 | wayne | haha :) |
| 13:07.10 | wayne | you know Rahzel ? |
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| 13:07.23 | Tomoe | who doesn't know about the father of noyze? =) |
| 13:07.26 | Tomoe | *godfather |
| 13:07.30 | wayne | There you go :) |
| 13:07.50 | wayne | he participated on the latest Bjork album, and it's pretty much awesome |
| 13:08.00 | Tomoe | wayne, you (try to) do it too or just like it? |
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| 13:08.36 | wayne | Tomoe: i do it a lot just for the fun of it, i like doing beats, but i also enjoy good stuff like Rahzel's |
| 13:08.41 | wayne | but not too often, it gets old faqst |
| 13:08.55 | Tomoe | wayne, I've always liked it |
| 13:09.03 | Tomoe | but got to want to learn it only two days ago |
| 13:09.23 | Tomoe | for how long have you been doing it? |
| 13:09.30 | wayne | heh i've been doing beats for about 15 years :) |
| 13:09.42 | Tomoe | lol |
| 13:09.54 | Tomoe | pls2teach me beatyoda |
| 13:10.03 | wayne | haha |
| 13:10.09 | wayne | i wouldn't know how to teach you |
| 13:10.20 | Tomoe | I know =) |
| 13:10.33 | Tomoe | j/k |
| 13:10.44 | wayne | but mostly, there's two approaches |
| 13:10.51 | wayne | with microphone, or without |
| 13:10.59 | Tomoe | tho it's much easier to get the sound when you watch someone do it, I've downloaded some instructional clips |
| 13:11.15 | wayne | techniques are entirely different depending which you use, so i suggest you start by picking one and sticking to it |
| 13:11.29 | Tomoe | what do you mean by different? |
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| 13:12.41 | wayne | Wlel with a microphone, everything sounds different. So like, a typical snare sound would not be the same if you do it with a mic, than without |
| 13:13.03 | wayne | like doing it with the lip instead of tongue, for instance |
| 13:13.13 | Tomoe | yeah |
| 13:13.26 | Tomoe | I've noticed that all the bboxers hold the mic really close |
| 13:13.35 | Tomoe | that changes the property of audio |
| 13:13.38 | wayne | yeah it's for the kickdrum mostly |
| 13:14.00 | wayne | because if you eat the microphone, you can do kickdrums without throwing air, allowing you to breathe more often or do a simultaneous hihat sound |
| 13:14.52 | Tomoe | what are the techniques where you hold the mic on your throat called? |
| 13:15.17 | wayne | no idea |
| 13:15.38 | Tomoe | but you know what I'm talking about right? |
| 13:21.30 | wayne | yes |
| 13:22.32 | Tomoe | how popular is it compared to usual way of bboxing? |
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| 14:56.01 | Tomoe | wayne, how much time did it take for you to get to be able to do some beats? |
| 14:56.57 | wayne | no idea, i've been doing it for so long |
| 14:57.21 | Tomoe | lol |
| 14:57.22 | Tomoe | ok |
| 14:57.52 | Tomoe | are there any sessions of yours online? |
| 15:01.12 | wayne | nope :) |
| 15:06.46 | Tomoe | aww shy boy |
| 15:06.47 | Tomoe | =P |
| 15:06.47 | Tomoe | =) |
| 15:07.57 | wayne | never really saw the interest for that eh |
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| 18:12.40 | bam_ | morning |
| 18:12.50 | bam_ | anyone runnin a 3100 with pdax? |
| 18:16.51 | licksjp | bam_, No |
| 18:17.11 | bam_ | damn |
| 18:17.22 | bam_ | gonna reflah today, i thoink |
| 18:18.43 | bam_ | bbs |
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| 19:31.27 | bam_ | anyone runnin pdax |
| 19:31.52 | wayne | nope, not me |
| 19:31.57 | bam_ | how do i install from cf card(an ipkg) |
| 19:32.36 | wayne | ipkg install /mnt/cf/etc/mypackage.ik ? |
| 19:32.39 | wayne | ipk |
| 19:33.09 | bam_ | err, duh...on me |
| 19:35.11 | wayne | if you give me 20$, i'll never tell anyone |
| 19:37.46 | bam_ | right |
| 19:37.46 | bam_ | dont care... |
| 19:37.46 | bam_ | hehe |
| 19:39.01 | wayne | :) |
| 19:39.08 | wayne | say, what device do you own? |
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| 20:06.20 | bam_ | 3100 |
| 20:06.22 | bam_ | :) |
| 20:06.27 | bam_ | off to work... |
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