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| 03:02.03 | z-akita | hi... |
| 03:09.58 | ryoohki | how does one do a sl-c760 reset? i had a sl-5500 and there was a button under the battery case. |
| 03:16.35 | licksjp | ryoohki, Do u want to install the new OS or so? |
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| 03:32.55 | zuery | anyone tried the new pdaxrom? |
| 03:33.47 | zuery | i have problem with the usbnet |
| 03:36.22 | ryoohki | zuery, which zaurus do you have? |
| 03:43.41 | zuery | akita |
| 03:43.48 | zuery | u? |
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| 03:50.55 | sess | hi |
| 03:50.58 | sess | anyone awake in here? |
| 03:52.32 | zuery | hi |
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| 03:58.02 | sess | hey |
| 03:58.11 | sess | what Model Zaurus do you have? |
| 03:58.16 | benplaut | Akita |
| 03:58.18 | benplaut | C1000 |
| 03:58.23 | sess | what rom u use? |
| 03:58.36 | benplaut | pdaxrom |
| 03:58.43 | sess | yea, that seems to be the best rom |
| 03:58.50 | sess | I get my c3000 tomorrow in the mail |
| 03:58.56 | sess | overnighted :-D |
| 03:59.04 | sess | but it appears I cant use the pdaXrom with it |
| 03:59.18 | sess | Im thinking about X/GPE instead |
| 03:59.33 | sess | or possibly oz/opie |
| 03:59.43 | zuery | benplaut: i got a problem with usbnetworking with my pc using pdaxrom rc11 |
| 03:59.57 | sess | but I really want X11 and XFCE4 |
| 04:00.20 | benplaut | zuery: i can't get it working, either |
| 04:00.55 | sess | is there a way to develop java apps onboard? I need to be using jdk 5.0 for class projects and was hoping the zaurus would give me a lil mobility... |
| 04:01.26 | sess | I've seen jikes was cross compiled for the zaurus but it only supports jdk 1.2 |
| 04:01.42 | sess | and I've been all over oz forums wiht no real results |
| 04:02.17 | zuery | benplaut: u fill up a bug report? |
| 04:02.50 | benplaut | well, i don't really have a specific bug, i think alot of the problem is on the computer end of things... |
| 04:02.57 | zuery | sess: there's no way of getting jdk 5.0 in Z... there's no arm port |
| 04:03.42 | zuery | sess: i think there's someone working on jdk 1.4 |
| 04:03.52 | sess | zuery: I realize that, but java classes are bytecode right? So if the jikes java compiler has been ported, Ishould be able to use the latest jdk classes right? |
| 04:04.15 | sess | unfortunately the only resource I've found says that jikes only works with jdk 1.2 classes |
| 04:04.43 | zuery | benplaut: i don't think so.. i use OZ before and it's ok.. i think must be the driver problem.. |
| 04:05.21 | benplaut | zuery: you file it, i'm not really sure what the problems are abut |
| 04:05.29 | benplaut | i have to write a paper |
| 04:13.59 | ljp | why you guys prefer x on your zaurus? |
| 04:16.14 | zuery | ljp: just trying the X, waiting for cacko |
| 04:29.10 | subdue | qtopia is fine for me |
| 04:29.23 | subdue | I have xqt running on it, but frankly I dont see the advantage of it |
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| 05:27.46 | ryoohki | does the zaurus have fdisk or some other utility? how can i read the volumne-name or volumne-id before i destroy it with a mkfs.vfat /dev/mmsdata1 |
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| 05:49.11 | zuery | ryoohki: cfdisk |
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| 08:36.02 | ryoohki | zuery, yeah, i tried that, not there, sl-c760 1.20jp dynamsim |
| 08:44.57 | zuery | ah... stock rom... i think u need to get the ipk for standard linux tools |
| 08:49.11 | zuery | http://www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/ |
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| 14:05.26 | sess | anyone know how I can remove the japanese from the C3000 completely? |
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| 14:11.46 | Tomoe | HOW ARE You GENTLEMEn |
| 14:13.45 | licksjp | $B!C(B"$B!<!((B)$B$A$i(B |
| 14:14.02 | licksjp | Tomoe hellllllllllllooooooooo |
| 14:14.17 | Tomoe | HY |
| 14:14.23 | Tomoe | SIR HY SIR |
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| 14:16.15 | licksjp | Do u Know CGI for BBS?,Tomoe |
| 14:16.19 | licksjp | for English |
| 14:17.05 | Tomoe | cgi for bbs? |
| 14:17.15 | Tomoe | as in php code for a forum? =P |
| 14:17.42 | licksjp | Tomoe, $B7G<(HD$r1Q8l$G:n$j$?$$(B |
| 14:17.54 | licksjp | cgi$B$,$$$$$G$9(B |
| 14:19.00 | Tomoe | $BCN$i$J$$!#!#(B |
| 14:19.54 | licksjp | $B%,%/(B($B!#!#(B) |
| 14:25.09 | licksjp | $B%F%9%H$G$-$?(B?Tomoe, |
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| 14:26.03 | Tomoe | $B$O$$(B |
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| 14:39.50 | licksjp | Tomoe, $B$"$J$?$OM%Ey@8$@$M(B |
| 14:40.03 | licksjp | $B!0!0(B |
| 14:40.40 | Tomoe | $B$I$&8@$&0UL#$@(B? |
| 14:42.14 | licksjp | Tomoe, You r clever student |
| 14:43.04 | Tomoe | not really |
| 14:43.07 | Tomoe | <-- lazy |
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| 14:47.57 | licksjp | hehe |
| 14:59.32 | Tomoe | hy KQ |
| 15:00.29 | KQ | hi |
| 15:00.47 | licksjp | KQ, hello |
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| 21:02.42 | ryoohki | anyone using a sdio wlan device? |
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| 21:15.56 | ljp | dont believe zaurus has sdio |
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| 22:18.38 | raduga | ljp: you sure about that? |
| 22:18.45 | raduga | re: sdsio |
| 22:18.48 | raduga | sdio |
| 22:19.03 | raduga | i seem to remember that: |
| 22:19.20 | raduga | pxa255 has SDIO support on-die. |
| 22:19.29 | raduga | pxa250 may or may not. |
| 22:19.34 | ryoohki | actually it does have sdio and support for the pxa270 series was just anounced |
| 22:19.54 | raduga | pxa250 class zauruses didn't have the necessary support hardware for SDIO at any rate |
| 22:20.09 | ryoohki | there is a sd wifi card from c-guys.com that is supported on the nsl-c760 and others |
| 22:20.11 | raduga | pxa255 zauruses (at least the Cxx0 ones) do. |
| 22:20.32 | ryoohki | there supply the drivef |
| 22:20.40 | raduga | pxa270 also has sdio support, and presumably the Cxk zauruses have as well. |
| 22:21.26 | raduga | ryoohki: officially they only supported the C860, but technically the driver would work under Sharp rom on any pxa255 clamshell. |
| 22:21.37 | raduga | possibly pxa250 ones as well (I can't confirm) |
| 22:22.07 | raduga | i'll check c-guys again, but last I looked, they didn't have 2.4.20 modules |
| 22:22.25 | raduga | so until they rebuild, it won't work on Cxk zauruses |
| 22:24.12 | raduga | ok. |
| 22:24.15 | raduga | driver is 2.4.18 only :/ |
| 22:24.25 | raduga | you could email them. |
| 22:42.43 | ljp | well, at least the c3000 doesnt support sdio |
| 22:54.51 | raduga | ljp: you're sure about that? |
| 22:55.01 | raduga | ljp: hardware defecit? |
| 22:55.59 | raduga | ljp: issue with C750/760/860 was only lack of software support. |
| 22:56.07 | raduga | possibly C700 as well. |
| 22:56.24 | raduga | SL5500 didn't have the traces brought out to the edge of the board though |
| 22:56.27 | raduga | nor 5000D |
| 22:56.42 | raduga | I'm not sure whether 5600 was ever verified on that account |
| 22:57.21 | raduga | ljp: if you have reference for that information, i'd love to see. |
| 22:58.01 | ljp | http://www.mobiletechreview.com/Sharp_Zaurus_C3000.htm |
| 22:58.10 | ljp | i have a c3000 right here |
| 22:58.43 | raduga | ljp: care to rip it apart? :) |
| 22:59.25 | ljp | heh |
| 22:59.30 | raduga | ljp: its been said that the C7x0 also didn't have SDIO support. But mostly that was just guessing, based on lack of input from Sharp |
| 22:59.42 | raduga | they don't market or promote it as a "feature" |
| 22:59.55 | raduga | and some models didn't have anything. |
| 23:00.02 | ljp | well considering SD is a closed technology |
| 23:00.43 | ljp | even if the hardware was hooked up, it would take sharp to make a sdio driver |
| 23:00.44 | raduga | as far as I know, only 2-3 developers have even worked on SDIO card/driver for Zaurii, and only c-guys ever released anything |
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| 23:01.13 | raduga | Sharp, or a hw developer willing to badger the heck out of Sharp, plus make a lot of effort on their own. |
| 23:01.30 | raduga | i.e. 2-3, and only one followed through on it. |
| 23:01.43 | raduga | and that project may well be dead (no drivers for >2.4.18) |
| 23:02.26 | ljp | Sharp cannot release the SD information |
| 23:02.47 | raduga | the developer must have gotten specs from the SD Consortium, |
| 23:03.10 | raduga | but they probably *also* needed data from Sharp on their implementation, I can onl imagine. |
| 23:03.46 | ljp | trust me, they did not get info from Sharp |
| 23:04.08 | raduga | Then they hacked it out on their own? |
| 23:05.11 | raduga | other than that they are expen$ive, and generally not worth the work required to make a marketable product |
| 23:07.06 | raduga | ljp: how does SDIO support work on, PPC handhelds? do the ppc vendors do all the work in-house? |
| 23:07.42 | ljp | not sure |
| 23:07.46 | raduga | do the sdio device vendors license code from the ppc vendors? |
| 23:07.48 | raduga | hmm |
| 23:09.48 | raduga | ljp: is TT selling a lot of licenses, and sending you a big, fat, and increasing paycheck each month? |
| 23:09.55 | raduga | (not for sdio, but in general) |
| 23:10.05 | ljp | TT is growing, yes |
| 23:10.12 | raduga | oh, good |
| 23:10.49 | ljp | we are still hiring engineers, also |
| 23:10.55 | raduga | great |
| 23:11.15 | raduga | many in OZ? |
| 23:11.20 | ljp | ya |
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