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| 03:08.33 | z-akita | hi.... |
| 03:08.36 | z-akita | anyone here? |
| 03:08.50 | Phroziac | hiya |
| 03:11.20 | z-akita | phroziac: You use external batt charger? |
| 03:11.30 | Phroziac | no |
| 03:11.52 | z-akita | did you heard about meanie z.. |
| 03:11.58 | Phroziac | meanie z? |
| 03:11.58 | z-akita | in the forum... |
| 03:12.07 | Phroziac | i don't use any forums related to this |
| 03:12.51 | z-akita | oh.. his 3000 died... |
| 03:13.07 | z-akita | usb problem.. i think... |
| 03:13.25 | Phroziac | oh |
| 03:13.37 | Phroziac | Know anything about SD cards? |
| 03:14.04 | z-akita | what sort of things about SD cards? |
| 03:14.25 | z-akita | capacity? brands? speed? |
| 03:15.15 | Phroziac | i got a PNY 512mb today |
| 03:15.27 | Phroziac | it worked, i tried formatting it to ext2fs |
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| 03:15.37 | Phroziac | changed my mind and went back to msdos |
| 03:15.44 | Phroziac | and now the zaurus completely locks up when i have the card in |
| 03:15.50 | Phroziac | and unlocks as soon as i pull it out |
| 03:16.27 | duper | hi all |
| 03:16.59 | duper | so if pdaxrom support unicode or eastern asian font? |
| 03:17.03 | Phroziac | ok, i might have gotten somewhere with this. |
| 03:17.53 | z-akita | phroziac: u using pdaxrom? |
| 03:18.07 | Phroziac | Stock rom |
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| 03:23.26 | z-akita | check dmesg |
| 03:24.01 | z-akita | duper: u use external batt charger? |
| 03:24.45 | duper | yes iam |
| 03:24.54 | duper | sl6000l |
| 03:24.56 | Phroziac | there's a whole bunch of errors and a filesystem panic |
| 03:25.01 | Phroziac | I did manage to get it mounted up |
| 03:25.38 | Phroziac | pulled the lever to lock, stuck it in, it locked...pulled it out, "SD" icon came up. unlocked the card, put it in, and the zaurus didn't lock.. |
| 03:25.52 | Phroziac | and i did an ls and a whole bunch of crap came up |
| 03:26.51 | z-akita | duper: u build your own batt charger? |
| 03:27.51 | z-akita | phroziac: why do u lock the SD? |
| 03:28.22 | z-akita | i nv tried the lock thing with my SD... |
| 03:28.49 | Phroziac | i tried it because i'm trying to get the card to work in the zaurus |
| 03:29.11 | Phroziac | the zaurus keeps locking up with the card in, and it unlocks as soon as i pull the card out |
| 03:32.28 | Phroziac | so any ideas? |
| 03:32.43 | z-akita | when the card is in ext2 format.. got any lockup? |
| 03:33.01 | Phroziac | no, worked fine |
| 03:33.33 | z-akita | how did u format the card to msdos? |
| 03:34.01 | Phroziac | mkfs.msdos /dev/mmcda1 |
| 03:34.16 | Phroziac | i tried formatting again and i get no such device. |
| 03:35.36 | z-akita | how about try format on your desktop with card reader? |
| 03:35.50 | Phroziac | i don't have one. |
| 03:37.02 | z-akita | i think u better get a card reader and format it... |
| 03:37.15 | z-akita | or borrow it from your friends.. |
| 03:37.29 | Phroziac | I don't have money, i don't have friends who even know what an sd card is. |
| 03:38.47 | Phroziac | could the card be defective or something? |
| 03:39.19 | z-akita | might be... i don't have this problem.. before... |
| 03:39.30 | z-akita | but i usually format it with card reader |
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| 03:39.41 | Tomoe | how are you gentlemen |
| 03:39.44 | Phroziac | on that dmesg i get a bunch of errors for trying to access beyond the end of device |
| 03:39.51 | Phroziac | Tomoe: sd card problems, of course. |
| 03:40.01 | Tomoe | Phroziac, you fail it ir |
| 03:40.03 | Tomoe | *sir |
| 03:40.12 | Phroziac | huh? |
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| 03:45.08 | blabla | Is there a way to export Qtopia Desktop data to other formats (yahoo calendar, palm, etc.)? |
| 03:46.05 | Tomoe | yes |
| 03:46.34 | blabla | Ah, good to know. Can you point me to info on this? Thanks. |
| 03:47.13 | Tomoe | www.manually-exporting-data.net |
| 03:47.31 | blabla | K, not entirely what I had in mind. |
| 03:47.36 | Tomoe | =P |
| 03:47.44 | blabla | So, I take it that means there's no automatic way? |
| 03:48.02 | Phroziac | z-akita: do you think there's any way to fix this on the Z? |
| 03:48.15 | Tomoe | no, take it as me trying to make a joke because I cannot provide you with a correct answer |
| 03:48.20 | Tomoe | since I had no interest in that |
| 03:48.22 | blabla | Ok, fair enough |
| 03:48.39 | Tomoe | so don't know anything about it |
| 03:58.07 | subdue | reboot |
| 03:58.18 | subdue | it probably doesnt know you changed the file system |
| 03:59.36 | Phroziac | subdue: i rebooted already, didn't fix it |
| 04:00.03 | Phroziac | i just got the card today, should i try to take it back? (bestbuy, evilness..) |
| 04:07.04 | subdue | I would have left it as fat |
| 04:08.26 | Phroziac | well, i put it back on fat, but now it's not working. |
| 04:13.57 | Phroziac | what would you do now? |
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| 04:18.39 | subdue | reboot again |
| 04:18.44 | subdue | try it out on your desktop |
| 04:18.55 | Phroziac | I don't have a card reader |
| 04:19.02 | subdue | essentially your fstab has the info on your card |
| 04:19.10 | subdue | it's probably confused |
| 04:19.27 | Phroziac | ok |
| 04:20.58 | Phroziac | I rebooted again, same. |
| 04:21.07 | subdue | fix your fstab |
| 04:21.24 | Phroziac | how? |
| 04:21.24 | subdue | other than that, you may have formatted it incorrectly |
| 04:21.51 | Phroziac | what would i have done to format it incorrectly? |
| 04:22.37 | subdue | in /etc/fstab |
| 04:23.26 | Phroziac | it looks fine to me |
| 04:23.43 | Phroziac | /dev/mmcda1 /mnt/card auto noauto,owner |
| 04:25.02 | subdue | http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Zaurus_How-To_Docs |
| 04:25.08 | subdue | I have to run. lots of info there |
| 04:25.15 | Phroziac | I looked at that already. |
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| 05:12.16 | bam_ | evening |
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| 05:13.26 | bam_ | anyone awake tonight? |
| 05:14.56 | sashz | good day bam_ |
| 05:15.18 | bam_ | heya |
| 05:15.34 | bam_ | just got a nice hdd1 error on my 3.1k |
| 05:16.16 | sashz | with pdaXrom? |
| 05:16.20 | bam_ | lets see if it happens again |
| 05:16.27 | bam_ | nah stock rom |
| 05:16.34 | sashz | ok |
| 05:16.34 | bam_ | did it again |
| 05:17.14 | bam_ | thought it was supposed to continue booting with a ctrl-c |
| 05:18.53 | bam_ | cant wait until pdax is out of the testing phase |
| 05:18.55 | bam_ | :) |
| 05:21.28 | bam_ | maybe because of the semi-dead battery, lol |
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| 05:31.55 | pramod | anyone here using openzaurus? |
| 05:38.34 | bam_ | hmmm any way to boot into my z with a hdd1error? |
| 05:41.13 | bam_ | anyone |
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| 06:13.19 | bam_ | how about booting into console? |
| 06:22.01 | benplaut | go ahead and try... |
| 06:22.05 | benplaut | can't hurt |
| 06:22.39 | bam_ | how todo it |
| 06:22.42 | bam_ | ? |
| 06:23.11 | bam_ | looks like the maint menu hdd backup copies sector for sector |
| 06:23.26 | bam_ | only got a 1gig card so no go on that |
| 06:23.53 | bam_ | yup just froze |
| 06:24.17 | benplaut | is ti on warrenty? |
| 06:24.24 | bam_ | yea |
| 06:27.50 | bam_ | well got my data, no backup, bummer |
| 06:28.07 | bam_ | can I do a valid backup from the service menu |
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| 06:30.15 | bam_ | now a nand flash backup will give me my backup right? or no? |
| 06:30.42 | bam_ | on a 3100 btw |
| 06:30.59 | bam_ | all my installed programs etc... |
| 06:32.25 | bam_ | wait, i can do a hdd restore...that should work |
| 06:35.33 | bam_ | anyone got a hdd1 image |
| 06:36.45 | bam_ | hehe, pdaXrom |
| 06:36.57 | bam_ | whooohooo |
| 06:38.31 | benplaut | you should try it when a ROM for c3.1k comes out :) |
| 06:38.58 | bam_ | yea, no kidding, ive been waiting |
| 06:39.02 | bam_ | :) |
| 06:39.08 | bam_ | i really like it alot |
| 06:40.09 | benplaut | yeah... |
| 06:40.20 | bam_ | done already? |
| 06:40.30 | benplaut | nah, download 55% done |
| 06:40.36 | bam_ | oh |
| 06:40.56 | benplaut | i'm gonna see if the "upgrade" option in the installer works :P |
| 06:41.08 | benplaut | i've done alot of tweaking in my RC10.0 |
| 06:41.33 | bam_ | my question is this, if te hdd1/2 is only for restore, who cares if its corrupt, booting should still occur |
| 06:43.24 | benplaut | it might do a RAM restore on boot... |
| 06:43.34 | benplaut | or something along those lines |
| 06:44.22 | bam_ | hmm, im gonna find a way to tweak it not to mount hdd1/2 |
| 06:44.52 | benplaut | good luck, and don't mess anything up :P |
| 06:45.08 | bam_ | bah, worst case i do a factory reset |
| 06:45.22 | benplaut | the only way i can think to do that is go into the terminal mode, SSH in on your desktop, and go from there |
| 06:46.09 | bam_ | yea its what im gonna try and do after/if this doesnt work |
| 06:46.41 | bam_ | wait, meanie has a hdd1 img, oh his is 3k |
| 06:49.52 | benplaut | oh well... |
| 06:49.56 | benplaut | reinstall... |
| 06:50.13 | bam_ | yea bummer |
| 06:51.41 | benplaut | hmm |
| 06:51.47 | benplaut | i might as well try RC11... |
| 06:51.55 | rmrfchik | re |
| 06:54.52 | bam_ | factory reset for me... |
| 06:54.55 | bam_ | :( |
| 06:57.34 | bam_ | hot damn gotta backup:) |
| 06:57.42 | bam_ | and my hdd3 data |
| 06:57.51 | bam_ | now a factory reset |
| 06:57.54 | bam_ | ...hmm |
| 06:59.31 | bam_ | which option is the factory rest |
| 06:59.37 | bam_ | reset, anyone |
| 07:09.36 | bam_ | got it |
| 07:14.05 | bam_ | hmmm factory reset....i get wait, 5,4,3,2,1 then a reset |
| 07:14.11 | bam_ | enless loop |
| 07:14.19 | bam_ | endless loop |
| 07:14.23 | bam_ | any ideas |
| 08:22.40 | bam_ | hey I semi-bricked my 3100 |
| 08:22.44 | bam_ | damn |
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| 10:24.12 | Tomoe | how are you gentlemen |
| 10:37.27 | licksjp | Tomoe, hello |
| 10:40.35 | Tomoe | hy |
| 10:50.58 | z-akita | cacko for akita not release yet? |
| 10:53.30 | Tomoe | licksjp, $B%l%9%j%s%0$,9%$-$@(B? |
| 10:56.57 | licksjp | Tomoe, $B=@=Q$8$c$J$+$C$?$N(B? |
| 10:56.58 | z-akita | anyone knows how's meanie... |
| 10:57.23 | Tomoe | $B%j%C%/%9!"$J$s$+(B |
| 10:57.24 | z-akita | he's pretty upset with his 3000 |
| 10:57.30 | Tomoe | $B$*$b$7$m$$(B |
| 10:57.35 | Tomoe | http://y.wimp.com/a/purse.swf |
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| 12:06.21 | ViV | finally we've got ram upgrade for our Zs 8) |
| 12:10.58 | Tomoe | pls2link |
| 12:11.17 | ViV | ? |
| 12:12.11 | Tomoe | link to what you're talking about |
| 12:12.33 | ViV | the page is in russian ;) |
| 12:12.45 | Tomoe | so? |
| 12:12.55 | ViV | you'll need to bring your z to moscow to make this upgrade |
| 12:13.11 | ViV | http://www.hpc.ru/board/viewtopic.php?p=245876#245876 |
| 12:14.18 | Tomoe | cool |
| 12:20.18 | licksjp | Tomoe,my web can't play flash |
| 12:20.32 | Tomoe | licksjp, too bad |
| 12:21.38 | Tomoe | ViV, nice |
| 12:21.46 | Tomoe | but I still don't feel the need for that =) |
| 12:50.30 | wayne | I'm not sure this is real... i think the guy pushed himself like they do in wrestling |
| 12:57.50 | licksjp | Tomoe, call nature? |
| 12:57.59 | licksjp | hehe |
| 13:00.33 | Tomoe | wayne, how do you mean 'pushed himself'? |
| 13:01.17 | wayne | Tomoe: the girl couldn't have lifted him as high as she did without a little help from the man's leg.. this is an old wresling move |
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| 13:16.02 | Tomoe | wayne, this is a classic headlock supplex |
| 13:16.09 | Tomoe | and it's done properly |
| 13:16.24 | Tomoe | it applies physical laws in the same way as highjumpers do |
| 13:16.45 | Tomoe | by curving the body downwards you lower its gravity center |
| 13:17.02 | Tomoe | withour lowering the physical center of the body |
| 13:17.05 | Tomoe | *hout |
| 13:17.09 | wayne | yes but they *jump* |
| 13:17.11 | wayne | they don't just drop |
| 13:17.13 | wayne | in the clip. |
| 13:17.49 | wayne | the "physically coherent" move would have kinda rolled back to the final position |
| 13:18.48 | Tomoe | wayne, while I do think that this is staged |
| 13:18.56 | Tomoe | I also think that it's staged perfectly |
| 13:19.19 | wayne | i agree that it's possibly very close to what it's supposed to be :) |
| 13:19.48 | Tomoe | wayne, outstretching legs gives tremendous amount of power |
| 13:20.41 | Tomoe | and you can see how she changes her level to accelerate him |
| 13:21.46 | Tomoe | I cannot claim that he didn't jump |
| 13:22.14 | Tomoe | most probably he did =) |
| 13:22.37 | wayne | yeah i know the move, done correctly, can throw a guy twice as heavy as you to the ground |
| 13:22.39 | Tomoe | because the girl's back are more rounded than they should be |
| 13:23.04 | Tomoe | wayne, I know too |
| 13:23.19 | wayne | there's so many fake clips of stuff on the web :/ |
| 13:23.25 | Tomoe | lol |
| 13:23.28 | Tomoe | but that's good |
| 13:23.29 | Tomoe | =P |
| 13:23.33 | wayne | jokes that turn out to be considered "true" for some time |
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| 16:13.37 | Phroziac | I got the sd card working! |
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| 18:29.35 | bam_ | 'morning |
| 18:30.18 | bam_ | how do you know when a flash restore is complete? |
| 18:34.48 | bam_ | ive got a hdd1 error, not sure how to repair.... |
| 18:38.37 | bam_ | shouldnt factory reset rewrite the 3 partition tables? |
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| 20:20.40 | bam_ | sashz, ya here? |
| 20:21.08 | sashz | yes |
| 20:21.13 | bam_ | cool, |
| 20:21.43 | bam_ | so how do i switch to pdax? got a 3100 |
| 20:21.50 | bam_ | getting an error on update |
| 20:22.09 | sashz | what errror? |
| 20:22.28 | sashz | what type of error? |
| 20:22.36 | bam_ | i unpacked the zip provided put it on sd card did update |
| 20:22.51 | bam_ | i am obviously missing something |
| 20:23.29 | sashz | put 3 files on sd card , yes? updater.sh, tools.tar and initrd.bin |
| 20:23.35 | bam_ | yes |
| 20:23.48 | sashz | error during flash or? |
| 20:23.51 | bam_ | yes |
| 20:24.10 | bam_ | so walk me thru the flash....just to make sure im doing whats needed |
| 20:24.27 | bam_ | d+m then power |
| 20:24.31 | bam_ | right |
| 20:24.39 | sashz | hmm |
| 20:24.52 | sashz | reboot with pressed OK button |
| 20:25.13 | sashz | than from japan menu select flash from cf or sd card |
| 20:25.28 | bam_ | whut number is that... |
| 20:26.03 | sashz | 4 |
| 20:26.29 | bam_ | ok flashing |
| 20:26.39 | bam_ | run level 4 |
| 20:26.54 | bam_ | ok, install new rom roight? |
| 20:27.15 | sashz | yes |
| 20:27.34 | sashz | than as flashing will finish, yes for format internal user flash |
| 20:28.41 | bam_ | my hdd1 hosed last night, so might as well do this, it will have to go back, if this doesnt work |
| 20:29.04 | bam_ | so consider me a permanent beta tester |
| 20:29.43 | bam_ | i like pdaXrom better anyways |
| 20:30.05 | bam_ | RO file system error |
| 20:30.22 | bam_ | while flashing |
| 20:30.27 | bam_ | so whuts next? |
| 20:31.59 | bam_ | i rebooted |
| 20:32.00 | sashz | hmm |
| 20:32.06 | sashz | try format sd card |
| 20:32.15 | sashz | or flash from cf |
| 20:32.15 | bam_ | something seems to be loading |
| 20:34.06 | raduga | hello sashz |
| 20:35.09 | raduga | sashz: btw, i'm having an odd problem with OZ, that the OZ people don't seem to understand, and tell me I must not know what I'm doing. |
| 20:35.22 | raduga | on akita (C1000) nand backup and restore works from Sharp rom |
| 20:35.30 | raduga | works from 10.4 pdaXrom |
| 20:35.44 | raduga | works from maslovsky's cacko beta |
| 20:35.48 | raduga | FAILS from OZ |
| 20:36.12 | raduga | on restore, the maintenance menu nand restore says image is corrupt |
| 20:36.29 | raduga | hmm |
| 20:36.31 | sashz | hello raduga |
| 20:36.57 | sashz | probably OZ people uses non sharp partitions for NAND |
| 20:37.21 | sashz | its why you get message about corrupted image i guess |
| 20:37.23 | bam_ | mmmz, reflashing |
| 20:39.34 | bam_ | ok gets to 73% then RRO files system: error while flashing, press enter key for reboot |
| 20:39.42 | bam_ | hope that helps |
| 20:39.53 | sashz | try with another card |
| 20:40.01 | bam_ | ok |
| 20:40.25 | bam_ | hey how do i quick format a cf card in linux? |
| 20:41.50 | sashz | mount it and mkfs.fat |
| 20:42.08 | raduga | you mean, unmount it first? |
| 20:42.15 | sashz | mkfs.msdos -F 16 |
| 20:42.29 | sashz | mkfs.msdos -F 16 /dev/xxx |
| 20:42.33 | bam_ | cool |
| 20:42.35 | bam_ | tnx |
| 20:46.47 | bam_ | other sd card, no-go |
| 20:46.52 | bam_ | tring cf card |
| 20:49.42 | bam_ | bbs |
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| 20:59.11 | bam_ | ok, flashing from cf |
| 20:59.16 | bam_ | sd didnt work |
| 20:59.31 | bam_ | cf card not found |
| 20:59.38 | bam_ | errr... |
| 21:00.58 | bam_ | nope cf card not found... |
| 21:04.55 | bam_ | dang, bricked |
| 21:05.25 | bam_ | used the flash utilities to fix the flash and whammo, wont even boot |
| 21:07.10 | sashz | that buggy in this version |
| 21:07.13 | bam_ | no charge light nada....crap |
| 21:07.23 | bam_ | any fix |
| 21:08.07 | sashz | read here how restore: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14902&st=30 |
| 21:08.22 | bam_ | cool |
| 21:10.22 | bam_ | how long does it take usually |
| 21:10.45 | bam_ | both lights flash right? |
| 21:11.21 | sashz | few secs |
| 21:11.44 | bam_ | hmmz been a minute already |
| 21:13.48 | bam_ | nope, me thinks its bricked, ouch |
| 21:14.12 | bam_ | nyother ideas? |
| 21:16.49 | sashz | CF or SD is FAT16 formated? |
| 21:17.09 | bam_ | yup, sd |
| 21:17.18 | bam_ | wont recognize my cf |
| 21:17.25 | bam_ | for some wierd reason |
| 21:17.46 | bam_ | hopefully sharp will fix this..... |
| 21:18.02 | bam_ | anyone know how long the warrenty is for... |
| 21:18.05 | eccerr0r | sharp's firmware bricked? |
| 21:18.12 | bam_ | yes |
| 21:18.16 | eccerr0r | new, 1 year... |
| 21:18.20 | bam_ | cool |
| 21:18.29 | bam_ | only had it like 3 mo's |
| 21:18.42 | bam_ | well whenever the 3100 came out |
| 21:19.55 | bam_ | whew, thought I had a 1000.00 paperwieght |
| 21:19.59 | bam_ | not good |
| 21:21.45 | bam_ | well off to work |
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| 21:23.35 | Tomoe | How are you gentlemen |
| 22:11.30 | ljp | awake |
| 22:49.36 | *** join/#zaurus synth (n=cb@pcp0010680183pcs.venice01.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:24.05 | Netzapper | yo, when I hook up a USB keyboard to my Z, it sorta works, but seems to have an abnormal charset. |
| 23:25.23 | Netzapper | if I reset it with a normal keyboard layout, am I going to screw something up? |