| 00:06.52 | Phroziac | heh |
| 00:13.05 | Netzapper | woot. Just ordered a FrogPad |
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| 00:14.02 | Phroziac | what's a frogpad? |
| 00:14.11 | Phroziac | and camelcase is evil. |
| 00:14.13 | Netzapper | http://www.frogpad.com |
| 00:15.09 | Netzapper | I'm always so tempted by overnight shipping... but, I think I had to go with 2nd Day Air |
| 00:15.20 | Netzapper | s/had/have/ |
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| 00:19.46 | Netzapper | this thing's gonna be awesome after I rig up some velcro to my tacvest. Finally, real text input on my Z! |
| 00:19.49 | Tomoe[HR] | lol hy |
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| 00:29.34 | Netzapper | alright, headed to the movie store with a wikipedia-given list of cyberpunk movies I *haven't* seen. |
| 00:29.42 | Netzapper | (undoubtedly, though, they'll all blow. But, whatever.) |
| 00:31.27 | Phroziac | heh |
| 00:31.41 | Phroziac | yay for wikipedia |
| 00:32.23 | Netzapper | it's like the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, except it already exists... and they haven't managed to put it in a PDA with a friendly cover yet |
| 00:32.59 | Tomoe[HR] | wikipedia? |
| 00:33.27 | raduga | speak for yourself, netzapper. |
| 00:33.40 | raduga | I have it in a PDA with a friendly cover. |
| 00:33.58 | raduga | (actually... still need to get a good "Don't Panic" sticker for my Z :) |
| 00:34.18 | raduga | tomoe: www.wikipedia.org |
| 00:35.26 | Phroziac | i'm so addicted to wikipedia :? |
| 00:35.26 | Tomoe[HR] | raduga, lol |
| 00:35.28 | Phroziac | :/ even. |
| 00:35.31 | Tomoe[HR] | I know about wikipedia |
| 00:35.39 | Phroziac | I got adminship there and it made it way worse. |
| 00:35.47 | Tomoe[HR] | I was just asking if Netzapper was referring to it with |
| 00:35.48 | Tomoe[HR] | <Netzapper> it's like the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, except it already exists... and they haven't managed to put it in a PDA with a friendly cover yet |
| 00:36.23 | Phroziac | Oh. |
| 00:36.49 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, heh =) |
| 00:37.33 | Phroziac | An idiot moved afd today. *ugh8 |
| 00:38.20 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, what's your opinion on GNAA article? |
| 00:39.12 | Phroziac | hmmm |
| 00:39.31 | Phroziac | vfd1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, or fac? |
| 00:40.33 | Tomoe[HR] | no, general opinion |
| 00:40.57 | Tomoe[HR] | as in is it worthy of being on wiki, what do you think of the group itself, and such |
| 00:41.12 | Phroziac | The group itself..ugh. The GNAA/Hard thing was funny though. |
| 00:41.26 | Phroziac | the article was pretty nice last time i read it, but i was stupid and voted delete on the 6th vfd. |
| 00:43.42 | Tomoe[HR] | heh |
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| 01:10.16 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], i'm buying a sl-c760 |
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| 01:16.21 | Tomoe[HR] | ryoohki, why? |
| 01:17.08 | Phroziac | lol |
| 01:20.43 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], i have no portable computer right now |
| 01:21.10 | Tomoe[HR] | no, I'm asking, why not some better model? |
| 01:21.20 | benplaut | C1000 :P |
| 01:23.15 | Netzapper | the movie store had *nothing* on my list on DVD. Not even letterboxed VHS... and since my VCR eats tapes with alarming frequency, I had to pass. Lame^2 |
| 01:23.24 | ryoohki | afaik, it's the same - ~400mhz xscale and 64mb ram |
| 01:23.37 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], only 199$ |
| 01:23.55 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], can't afford nice one - sl-c3100 |
| 01:24.40 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], also, i expect they will be releasing a new one with more than 64mb ram, i doubt they can continue to buy such small ram chips |
| 01:25.08 | Phroziac | Netzapper: hah. |
| 01:27.03 | Tomoe[HR] | ryoohki, lol |
| 01:27.09 | Tomoe[HR] | that's a nice thought |
| 01:27.10 | Tomoe[HR] | =) |
| 01:27.24 | Phroziac | by the way, on the SL-5500 stock rom, how the hell do you ever beat the solitaire game? |
| 01:27.40 | zip|6kL | one at a time |
| 01:28.20 | Phroziac | i lose it every single time |
| 01:28.23 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], what is hr? i found out hy is "hell yeah" |
| 01:28.38 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], hr = here? |
| 01:29.23 | Tomoe[HR] | hy is not hell yeah |
| 01:29.26 | ryoohki | how long does the battery last? how long if the best battery one can get for the sl-c760? any hardware mods like ram upgrades? |
| 01:29.33 | Tomoe[HR] | it's bastardisation of hi and hey |
| 01:29.39 | Tomoe[HR] | used by aol messenger kiddies |
| 01:29.53 | Tomoe[HR] | and hr = my cuntry's code |
| 01:29.55 | Tomoe[HR] | *country |
| 01:30.11 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], oh - then it's listed wrong on computer lingo web page i read |
| 01:31.00 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], oh, is there another Tomoe who has registered the nick? |
| 01:31.33 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], i only use irc |
| 01:31.44 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], i plan on using google talk |
| 01:32.09 | Tomoe[HR] | ryoohki, no |
| 01:32.13 | Tomoe[HR] | I registered tomoe |
| 01:32.14 | Tomoe[HR] | =) |
| 01:32.36 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], is Tomoe your real name of one from anime? |
| 01:32.58 | Tomoe[HR] | ryoohki, my nickname is very similar to it |
| 01:33.08 | Tomoe[HR] | and it's usually taken on most of irc networks I frequent |
| 01:33.13 | Tomoe[HR] | other net-places too |
| 01:33.21 | Tomoe[HR] | so I got to use this one because it's not that common |
| 01:34.18 | ryoohki | Tomoe[HR], ryoohki is from anime - google for ryo-ohki |
| 01:34.56 | ryoohki | brb - grocery shopping |
| 01:35.44 | Tomoe[HR] | cool ryoohki |
| 01:36.34 | Phroziac | Why is there almost no price difference between SD and MMC? |
| 01:37.08 | kendrick | is there a real diff between SD & MMC? :) |
| 01:37.21 | Tomoe[HR] | yes |
| 01:37.29 | Tomoe[HR] | sd is closed architecture =F |
| 01:38.28 | Phroziac | actually, i was reading about it, some MMC cards are just SD cards with a fuse blown out.. |
| 01:38.58 | Phroziac | I *really* don't like the idea of DRM, but since the zaurus doesn't support the SD stuff anyway, it won't hurt me. |
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| 02:06.28 | Netzapper | Phroziac: mmmm... well, the Z reads the SD card just fine. Although I guess I've never figured out exactly how they're supposed to be "secure". |
| 02:06.52 | zip|6kL_ | what yours doesnt have the retnal scan? |
| 02:07.54 | Phroziac | Netzapper: The Zaurus works with the sd cards, but i've heard it uses them at the slower MMC speed, and that it can't use the secure features |
| 02:07.58 | Phroziac | the security is against *you* |
| 02:07.59 | Netzapper | nah, just DNA scans... you drop a hair in the hole, and away it goes. 'course, it takes three weeks to perform the analysis. I guess IEEE doesn't watch CSI. |
| 02:08.12 | Netzapper | oh, some sort of DRM bullshit? |
| 02:08.23 | Phroziac | haha |
| 02:08.28 | Phroziac | yes, DRM. |
| 02:08.39 | Phroziac | it's for the music industry to limit what you do with it |
| 02:08.49 | Phroziac | but it's mostly a failure for that, and apparently no one ever uses that feature. |
| 02:09.21 | Netzapper | I love that stuff. I really don't get it. Encrypt(Data, Key), send Data to me, send Key to me. Now, explain how I'm not supposed to be able to crack that? |
| 02:09.26 | Phroziac | oh, and the SD logo is from an older, failed, toshiba product..."Super density optical disc"...which is why the D looks like a disc. |
| 02:09.55 | Phroziac | It relies on your being an idiot |
| 02:10.16 | Phroziac | It's actually a violation of the DMCA to crack that to my knowledge. |
| 02:10.38 | zip|6kL_ | only if you have encrypted it |
| 02:10.42 | Phroziac | I don't understand PGP either, but apparently it works. |
| 02:10.57 | Netzapper | Phroziac: PGP isn't hard to get. |
| 02:11.14 | Netzapper | and I'm aware of the DMCA. I love it: "This math is illegal!" |
| 02:12.24 | Phroziac | World sucks. |
| 02:12.39 | Phroziac | "hard to get" as in crack? |
| 02:13.20 | Netzapper | Phroziac: PGP-> Sk = GenerateSymetricalSessionKey(); ED = EncryptData(Data, Sk); DHSk = DiffieHellmanEncryptData(Sk, ReceipientsKey); Send(ED, DHSk); |
| 02:13.59 | Phroziac | I still don't get it. |
| 02:14.03 | Phroziac | it's secure though, right? |
| 02:14.45 | Netzapper | as far as anybody can tell, yes |
| 02:17.07 | Netzapper | hrmm, actually it may not be Diffie-Hellman. Give me a minute |
| 02:20.46 | Netzapper | oh, duh, it uses RSA. |
| 02:21.00 | Phroziac | ok |
| 02:21.08 | Phroziac | Now, what keeps someone else from using your signatures? |
| 02:22.27 | Netzapper | huh? A signature isn't a reusable thing... it's made by taking a hash of the message (condensing it into a fixed-length number such that for every message there is only one number, and for each number there are very few messages). Then, you ecrypt that hash with your private key, such that anybody with your public key can decrypt it and check the hash against a hash that they make of the same message. |
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| 02:26.06 | Phroziac | Ok, i didn't know that. |
| 02:26.18 | Phroziac | so you have to give them your public key? |
| 02:26.30 | Netzapper | yes. You want everybody in the universe to have your public key. |
| 02:26.51 | Phroziac | what are good ways to get it out there? |
| 02:26.59 | Netzapper | keyservers |
| 02:27.11 | Phroziac | how will people know where to look? |
| 02:27.31 | Netzapper | you use one of the massive ones... I think that I tend to use keys.pgp.com, but I'm not sure |
| 02:27.33 | Netzapper | lemme check |
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| 02:28.11 | Netzapper | hkp://subkeys.pgp.net |
| 02:28.20 | zip|6kL_ | hkp? |
| 02:28.28 | Phroziac | lol |
| 02:28.57 | Netzapper | it's the protocol that's used to transfer keys. I have no idea what the initials stand for (although I suspect it's H______ Key Protocol) |
| 02:31.08 | zip|6kL_ | hyper? |
| 02:31.11 | zip|6kL_ | happy |
| 02:31.19 | Netzapper | horny. |
| 02:33.30 | Netzapper | hah. "HTTP Keyserver Protocol" |
| 02:35.40 | Netzapper | I'm really scared to put gpg on my Z. a) I don't have a mailer on it that supports it, and b) I'm scared that if I lose it, I'll have lost my private key, too. |
| 02:35.41 | Phroziac | horny key protocol! |
| 02:35.46 | Tomoe[HR] | ok by |
| 02:35.47 | Tomoe[HR] | see you |
| 02:35.52 | Netzapper | peace |
| 02:36.25 | z-akita | backup your private ..... hehehe |
| 02:36.43 | Phroziac | Netzapper: could you use a seperate key pair, and revoke the key if you lose the Z? But what's the chance of someone getting ahold of the key? |
| 02:37.04 | Netzapper | z-akita: well, the problem is not so much that I don't have it, but that somebody else does. |
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| 02:39.02 | Netzapper | Phroziac: I've thought about that, but it means a couple of things 1) easy traffic analysis, since any evesdropper will know that I'm sending from my Z 'cause it's from my "mobile" key; 2) I have to go through the signing/trust process for this second key, also; 3) it makes it that much harder to use encrypted mail, since I won't be able to receive and decrypt mail sent to my other key; 4) since keys are tied to email addre |
| 02:39.02 | Netzapper | sses, I'd have to use a separate email address or risk confusing people. |
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| 02:39.29 | Phroziac | oh |
| 02:39.40 | Phroziac | ok |
| 02:39.45 | z-akita | use a good password to protect your private key.. i guess.. |
| 02:40.19 | z-akita | its a trade off... u want mobility .. u sacrifice a bit of security... |
| 02:41.24 | Netzapper | of course. Mine's like 80 characters long. Takes me about five or six seconds to type it in (on QWERTY). I know it's a tradeoff... what I really want is for my key to be implanted in me in a chip with transdusive/transdermal data contacts. |
| 02:42.58 | Phroziac | that would be leet. |
| 02:43.55 | Netzapper | hey man, I've been talking to my cutter about my watch implant. Thing is, I can't find an EE who'll do the induction recharging system for me. |
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| 02:45.16 | Netzapper | right now I'm waiting for a bluetooth headset light enough to reengineer and hang from my cartilage piercings. |
| 02:47.01 | Netzapper | 'course, it'll be kind of useless until I get a phone produced after the fall of the Soviet Union. |
| 02:59.42 | Phroziac | uhm |
| 02:59.59 | Phroziac | You're getting a watch implanted in you? |
| 03:00.38 | Phroziac | do you have any pictures of yourself by the way? |
| 03:04.06 | Netzapper | brb |
| 03:11.04 | Netzapper | back |
| 03:12.33 | Netzapper | I want a watch implanted, but I can't find a EE who's willing and able to do the circuits for me. Seems like all the pros think it's against ethics, since it's for "medical devices" and they're not certified for such; the students I know can't do the induction systems I need. |
| 03:13.14 | Phroziac | what sorta watch? |
| 03:13.14 | Netzapper | and why do you want a picture? I'm just an overweight scruffy hacker loaded down with fifteen pounds and fifteen hundred dollars worth of gear stuffed into the pockets of cargo pants and a tactical vest |
| 03:13.33 | Netzapper | digital LED readout (so that it shows through skind) |
| 03:13.38 | Phroziac | because you sounded like you had a bunch of gadgets implanted in you when you said that. |
| 03:13.45 | Phroziac | cool. USB? |
| 03:14.48 | Netzapper | nah, I don't want any breaks in the skin (transdermals are a bitch to heal). Thus, I want to set it and recharge it via induction. Which is apparently a pretty tricky thing to do in small packages. |
| 03:15.30 | Netzapper | I have lots of ink and piercings, but no implants yet. Like I said, I can't find engineers, and I'm sure as shit not just stuffing off-the-shelf gear under my skin. |
| 03:16.17 | Phroziac | ok |
| 03:16.45 | Phroziac | what other stuff are you planning no getting implanted? |
| 03:16.56 | Phroziac | *on |
| 03:18.23 | Netzapper | well, assuming I find an engineer: a neat design I have for subvocal/bone-induction, encrypted wireless comms system (you could have silent conversations with folks around you, totally secure). The high-level designs work out, and I have a chunk of the software coded up, but my prototypes right now are running on massive PIC-chip boards. |
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| 03:24.37 | Tomoe[HR] | lol@subdermal implants |
| 03:25.01 | Phroziac | Tomoe[HR]: what's so funny? |
| 03:25.17 | Phroziac | Netzapper: uhm...you serious? |
| 03:25.28 | Netzapper | fairly. |
| 03:25.48 | Phroziac | How would that work? |
| 03:26.32 | Netzapper | three modules: 1) bone induction "speaker", 2) subvocal throat-mic, 3) transceiver/cpu. |
| 03:27.24 | Netzapper | the speaker gets glued to your mandible, and the throat-mic gets implanted near your larynx. The transceiver can be pretty much anywhere you feel like running wire subdermally to get to. (I suggest keeping it close, but if you like pain, cool) |
| 03:27.54 | Phroziac | heh |
| 03:27.57 | Netzapper | the problem here is that I don't really trust any cutter I know to do this, so I'd have to find a "real" surgeon. |
| 03:28.40 | Phroziac | How would you get an understandable sound into the mic, without it being heard? |
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| 03:29.40 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, but tell me, why do you wish to do that? |
| 03:29.45 | Netzapper | you can do it already without the implant, actually. It's not totally silent, but it's a whisper that can only barely be heard a few inches away. You need to do a little DSP on it to clean it up, but whatever. |
| 03:30.09 | Netzapper | Tomoe[HR]: honestly? Because I like the idea. It's an aesthetic thing. |
| 03:30.19 | Tomoe[HR] | ah |
| 03:30.22 | Tomoe[HR] | ok |
| 03:30.37 | Tomoe[HR] | well it's no worse than subclavia piercings imo heh |
| 03:30.41 | Tomoe[HR] | and certainly of more use |
| 03:31.00 | Netzapper | to paraphrase Gibson, "Why get it implanted if you can just carry it around?" I know. But, ya' know, I'm shooting for cyborg here. |
| 03:31.21 | Tomoe[HR] | or just for a bit of irc attention |
| 03:31.22 | Tomoe[HR] | =P |
| 03:31.25 | Netzapper | man, I've got plenty of mods, but subclavical piercings freak me out. |
| 03:32.37 | Tomoe[HR] | oh |
| 03:32.43 | Tomoe[HR] | it's clavical in english? |
| 03:32.57 | Tomoe[HR] | yah |
| 03:33.03 | Phroziac | ok i get it now Netzapper. |
| 03:33.07 | Tomoe[HR] | clavicula would give it probably |
| 03:33.16 | Phroziac | Uhm, what's a subclavia piercing? |
| 03:33.18 | Netzapper | Tomoe[HR]: collar bone? |
| 03:33.25 | Netzapper | Phroziac: a piercing underneath the collar bone. |
| 03:33.38 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, that's what I was referring to |
| 03:33.43 | Netzapper | they tend not to heal well, though. They're sort of assumed temporary. |
| 03:33.44 | Tomoe[HR] | my latin is a bit rusty tho sorry =P |
| 03:35.45 | Phroziac | uhm |
| 03:35.54 | Phroziac | it goes around the bone? |
| 03:36.01 | Netzapper | it goes underneath the bone |
| 03:36.01 | Tomoe[HR] | under the bone |
| 03:36.16 | Phroziac | ouch |
| 03:36.16 | Tomoe[HR] | it's U shaped and protrudes the skin on both sides |
| 03:36.25 | Tomoe[HR] | *through the |
| 03:36.35 | Phroziac | why would you do a temp piercing? |
| 03:37.00 | Netzapper | because you want to. Why do you eat eggs for breakfast instead of porkroll? |
| 03:37.05 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, http://encyc.bmezine.com/?cmd=img&src=encyc/encyc00144-2.jpg&title=Clavicle_Piercing |
| 03:37.42 | Netzapper | oh, that one might actually heal. PTFE (or maybe Tygon) barbells give it a chance. |
| 03:37.43 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, because eggs have higher amount of unsaturated/saturated fats ratio |
| 03:38.02 | Tomoe[HR] | erm |
| 03:38.07 | Tomoe[HR] | argh |
| 03:38.11 | Tomoe[HR] | I hate half editing lol |
| 03:38.16 | Tomoe[HR] | -amount of |
| 03:38.31 | Netzapper | heh |
| 03:39.06 | Tomoe[HR] | also, because eggs are cheaper per gram of protein |
| 03:39.06 | Netzapper | Phroziac: if you don't get it, you don't get it. It's not a big deal, just realize that this sort of stuff makes them (us) happy, and we're not hurting anybody. |
| 03:40.20 | Phroziac | ok |
| 03:40.28 | Phroziac | i can't look right now |
| 03:40.56 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, does the signal propagate well from mandible? |
| 03:41.44 | Netzapper | well, that's where you would put the induction speaker... and it pretty much runs right into your inner ear. So, yeah, it carries sound wonderfully. |
| 03:41.50 | Phroziac | by the way, why does bme have so many pictures? |
| 03:42.16 | Phroziac | i accidently saw a picture of uhm..urethral relocation there a while back |
| 03:42.22 | Netzapper | Phroziac: because the people who do this sort of thing send the pictures in (in return, they get free memberships) |
| 03:42.28 | Tomoe[HR] | because there are many people with nothing better to do than to modify their bodies in useless ways? =) |
| 03:42.40 | Netzapper | it's a community site (with a social-networking site attached). |
| 03:42.42 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, can you link to that one? |
| 03:42.48 | Netzapper | Tomoe[HR]: hey, I resemble that remark. |
| 03:43.22 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, of course there's love/addiction/force or whatever you wish to call it |
| 03:43.28 | Tomoe[HR] | but a bystander cannot see it |
| 03:43.40 | Netzapper | okay, I'll buy that. |
| 03:43.51 | Tomoe[HR] | I understand it but cannot empassionate with it |
| 03:44.31 | Tomoe[HR] | but I'd have to admit that I think less of it than let's say |
| 03:44.35 | Phroziac | Tomoe[HR]: no i can't, i don't have the link |
| 03:44.35 | Tomoe[HR] | stamp collecting? |
| 03:44.52 | Phroziac | it was on a section about possible complications |
| 03:45.00 | Tomoe[HR] | ok Phroziac will check |
| 03:45.02 | Phroziac | and there was a metal rod going through the guys dick |
| 03:45.24 | Phroziac | I don't have the balls to look at the penectomy or castration pages.. |
| 03:45.37 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, because I prefer taking care of my body rather than adding to it |
| 03:45.38 | Netzapper | http://encyc.bmezine.com/?Urethral_Reroute |
| 03:45.47 | Tomoe[HR] | thanks |
| 03:47.17 | Tomoe[HR] | 'and still others have stretched this new urethral opening to allow penetration.' |
| 03:47.22 | Phroziac | what's the use in that? seems like it'd make a mess in sex... |
| 03:47.23 | Tomoe[HR] | wtf |
| 03:47.36 | Phroziac | erm |
| 03:47.36 | Phroziac | lol |
| 03:47.53 | Netzapper | Phroziac: sex makes a mess regardless. |
| 03:47.54 | Phroziac | penetration with or into? |
| 03:47.58 | Netzapper | into |
| 03:48.08 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, with what? |
| 03:48.13 | Tomoe[HR] | penis? |
| 03:48.18 | Tomoe[HR] | wtf |
| 03:48.25 | Netzapper | a penis? A finger? A sound? A carrot? whatever fits. |
| 03:49.14 | Tomoe[HR] | wouldn't it be a bit too wide heh |
| 03:49.58 | Phroziac | Netzapper: well, meh. |
| 03:50.06 | Netzapper | I actually doubt there're more than a couple folks in the world who can fit a penis, but there're probably lots who can easily fit a finger. |
| 03:50.49 | Phroziac | uhm |
| 03:50.55 | Phroziac | Now, why would anyone want a penectomy? |
| 03:52.05 | Netzapper | I have no idea. I can understand castration, but penectomy is beyond my abilities to internalize. It's a sexual thing, though... think lifestyle BDSM subs. |
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| 03:53.02 | Netzapper | I know one guy who, due to a fuckup with his circumcision as a baby, had essentially no feeling in his genitals. He had them removed because he prefered the aesthetics of a nullo and gained nothing by keeping them. |
| 03:53.23 | Phroziac | Hmm, that sucks. |
| 03:53.36 | Phroziac | uhm, why would you do castration? |
| 03:53.41 | Tomoe[HR] | man do I hate circumcision |
| 03:53.56 | Netzapper | Tomoe[HR]: I'm with you on that. |
| 03:54.00 | Phroziac | I agree. |
| 03:54.00 | Tomoe[HR] | as in baby circumcision |
| 03:54.17 | Tomoe[HR] | if one wants to do it, let him |
| 03:54.29 | Tomoe[HR] | but scarring a baby for life |
| 03:54.40 | Tomoe[HR] | and also inflicting such pain so early |
| 03:54.44 | Phroziac | I actually hardly have any scar from mine. |
| 03:54.51 | Netzapper | Phroziac: well, for one it adds between 10 and 15 years to your lifespan, on average. But, that's not why most of them do it. It's an immasculation thing, giving up that which makes you male. |
| 03:55.00 | Netzapper | Phroziac: yeah, but you're missing flesh. |
| 03:55.13 | Phroziac | yeah, that kinda sucks. |
| 03:55.15 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, scarring as in taking away a part of you |
| 03:55.27 | Phroziac | ok. :p |
| 03:55.31 | Netzapper | "Here, let's amputate a portion of your body that feels really great, for absolutely no reason." |
| 03:55.45 | Tomoe[HR] | well actually that _is_ the reason |
| 03:55.46 | Tomoe[HR] | =) |
| 03:55.49 | Phroziac | It seriously adds that much to your life though? |
| 03:55.53 | Netzapper | (btw: I'm uncut. I promise you that it's highly sensitive and nice to have.) |
| 03:56.59 | Netzapper | Phroziac: in studies of sex offenders who underwent castration (back in the dark ages of the 60's), yes... taking into account lifestyle choices (smoking, drinking, riding motorcycles) |
| 03:57.36 | Tomoe[HR] | uncut here too |
| 03:57.45 | Tomoe[HR] | luckily that never went off in europe >.> |
| 03:58.27 | Netzapper | my mother's a neonatologist, and had performed the operations... she was well aware of how much it sucked. |
| 03:58.42 | Phroziac | uhm |
| 03:58.48 | Netzapper | and was also aware of the fact that there's literally no medical reason to do it |
| 03:58.56 | Phroziac | Why'd she do it? |
| 03:59.23 | Tomoe[HR] | because people wanted their kids to be circumcised? |
| 03:59.34 | Netzapper | (she didn't do it to me) but, essentially because she didn't have a lot of choice in the issue. |
| 03:59.44 | Netzapper | (still doesn't, since she still practices) |
| 04:00.05 | Tomoe[HR] | and because that used to be a standard for babies |
| 04:00.38 | Tomoe[HR] | if (male) {cut(preputium); ...} |
| 04:00.40 | Phroziac | meh |
| 04:00.45 | Netzapper | either she does it, or she loses her job. I suppose she could raise enough of a stink that they'd let her off of it, but one of her partners would still do it. |
| 04:01.10 | Phroziac | I had my wisdom teeth out the other week. that sucked. |
| 04:01.50 | Netzapper | after all, the AMA says it has health benefits. Of course, the AMA are pretty much antithetical to good medicine, but we also live in Amurka, land of the <s>free</s> SUV. |
| 04:02.15 | Phroziac | heh |
| 04:05.43 | Netzapper | hmm... a SCOTTeVEST (http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/Classic_bk.shtml) or a 5.11 Tactical vest (http://www.copquest.com/45-1200.htm) |
| 04:06.52 | Phroziac | I looked at the clavicle piercing picture |
| 04:07.00 | Phroziac | i see what you mean by *under* now |
| 04:07.08 | Phroziac | it looks kinda sexy. |
| 04:07.12 | Tomoe[HR] | lol |
| 04:07.49 | Netzapper | uh-oh. That's where it starts. Pretty soon, you'll find yourself at your local piercing shop having them outfit you with a pair of nipple rings. |
| 04:08.20 | Phroziac | heh |
| 04:08.32 | Phroziac | I already thought piercings were sexy, but....i was just thinking "wtf?" about that one until i looked. |
| 04:08.40 | Netzapper | ah, dig |
| 04:09.17 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, nah |
| 04:09.19 | Tomoe[HR] | I |
| 04:09.33 | Tomoe[HR] | *I've been looking at them for a long time |
| 04:09.37 | Tomoe[HR] | never got an urge to get one |
| 04:09.47 | Tomoe[HR] | I don't like additions =) |
| 04:10.21 | Netzapper | oh HOLY SHIT! http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/vests.shtml |
| 04:10.40 | Phroziac | .. |
| 04:11.29 | Netzapper | sorry, I realized that I carry around an awful lot of shit on a daily basis, my current $20 vest is falling apart, and I hage carrying bags. |
| 04:12.15 | Netzapper | so, I'm looking for a new shit-carrying-solution (mind you, I don't wear this stuff when I'm out dancing or anything; I still have a few percent chance of getting laid again in my life) |
| 04:12.50 | Tomoe[HR] | I have a similar one |
| 04:13.10 | Tomoe[HR] | croatian army's special tactic unit issue |
| 04:13.18 | Tomoe[HR] | but I like the first one you pasted |
| 04:13.49 | Phroziac | why do you need a bulletproof vest? |
| 04:13.57 | Netzapper | those aren't bullet-proof |
| 04:14.15 | Netzapper | well, the one at the bottom will take ballistic inserts, but that's not the one I'm looking at. |
| 04:15.46 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, I was always interested in one thing |
| 04:16.15 | Tomoe[HR] | how come that people who are so interested in body aestethics are not into modifying their bodies in more basic ways? |
| 04:16.30 | Tomoe[HR] | for example, working out and such |
| 04:16.33 | Netzapper | working out, tanning, etc.? |
| 04:16.44 | Tomoe[HR] | well not really tanning but ok |
| 04:16.44 | Netzapper | many of them are. |
| 04:16.52 | Tomoe[HR] | less than half I'd say |
| 04:17.15 | Netzapper | probably accurate |
| 04:18.04 | Tomoe[HR] | also, improving the body in other ways |
| 04:18.13 | Tomoe[HR] | improving the reflexes and such |
| 04:18.30 | Netzapper | I surmise that it's twofold: 1) working out takes a lot more work and dedication than most forms of body-mod, and it's non-permanent; 2) it brings you closer to the "standard" definition of attractive, which manh of us have rejected. |
| 04:18.49 | Netzapper | well, I don't work out, but I do work on my reflexes and some martial skills. |
| 04:19.21 | Phroziac | tanning is disgusting |
| 04:20.05 | Tomoe[HR] | really? |
| 04:20.07 | Tomoe[HR] | what do you do? |
| 04:20.53 | Netzapper | tai chi chuan (although I haven't been to class in a while). I also shoot, and spend considerable energy improving at that. |
| 04:21.21 | Phroziac | i can read and type fast. |
| 04:21.24 | Phroziac | on a dvorak. |
| 04:21.37 | Tomoe[HR] | not faster than me |
| 04:21.38 | Tomoe[HR] | =P |
| 04:21.42 | Tomoe[HR] | at least for the reading |
| 04:21.47 | Tomoe[HR] | how fast do you type? |
| 04:22.06 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, I do bjj mostly |
| 04:22.17 | Phroziac | Not that fast, it hasn't been that long since i switched to dvorak |
| 04:22.21 | Tomoe[HR] | did some thai/boxing |
| 04:22.27 | Phroziac | i actually have no idea at the moment |
| 04:22.28 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, and on qwerty? |
| 04:22.51 | Tomoe[HR] | I'm currently typing on a laptop keyboard |
| 04:22.52 | Phroziac | Tomoe[HR]: i used to do 70-100wpm on qwerty, but i haven't used it in quite a while. i should practice on it more so i can be more elite ;) |
| 04:23.10 | Tomoe[HR] | so I'm around 60-70 now I'd say =F |
| 04:23.20 | Phroziac | how fast can you do? |
| 04:23.22 | Tomoe[HR] | mostly because I'm used to split design |
| 04:23.25 | Tomoe[HR] | dunno |
| 04:23.32 | Tomoe[HR] | probably the same as you did |
| 04:23.38 | Tomoe[HR] | never trained for it tho |
| 04:23.41 | Netzapper | if I'd stop using weirdass input devices, I'd probably do far better. But, I like my TouchStream too much to give it up |
| 04:23.51 | Tomoe[HR] | touchstream? |
| 04:23.53 | Tomoe[HR] | what's that? |
| 04:24.06 | Netzapper | well, the company just went out of business, or I'd link you, but... |
| 04:24.13 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, have you ever tried bjj? |
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| 04:24.50 | skwashd-laptop | hi all |
| 04:25.01 | Netzapper | it's basically two 5"x6" touchpads, wired together, with a keyboard screenprinted on it. You simply touch the letters, and you're typing. The cool thing is that it is also a mouse, and also does gesture recognition. |
| 04:25.20 | skwashd-laptop | i have been google'n and can't see any info on wpa support for the zaurus ... is that right? |
| 04:25.29 | Tomoe[HR] | heh |
| 04:25.32 | Phroziac | Netzapper: sweet. |
| 04:25.37 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, cool |
| 04:25.44 | Tomoe[HR] | but I prefer good ole' keybo |
| 04:25.46 | Tomoe[HR] | =) |
| 04:25.54 | Phroziac | I use an '89 ibm, converted to dvorak |
| 04:25.58 | Tomoe[HR] | unix-type |
| 04:26.04 | Tomoe[HR] | since I started with C=64 heh |
| 04:26.13 | Phroziac | one of the ones where you can pop the tops off the keys, and re-arrange them. |
| 04:26.16 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, Model M? |
| 04:26.21 | Phroziac | i have 4 key tops missing though. |
| 04:26.24 | Netzapper | Tomoe[HR]: it doesn't really fit my body-type, from what I've seen. Seems to rely on whole-body speed and agility, whereas what I primarily have is control and extremity speed. |
| 04:26.35 | Phroziac | Tomoe[HR]: no idea. i'll turn it over in a minute, i have a bunch of change sitting on it though |
| 04:26.44 | Phroziac | Tomoe[HR]: it has a nice ledge on top where i kinda sit stuff |
| 04:26.52 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, doesn't fit my body type too yet it doesn't stop me |
| 04:27.05 | Tomoe[HR] | but yeah, it does kinda rely on agility |
| 04:27.18 | Phroziac | It's also a nice place to lay my timex ironman datalink usb when i'm typing. |
| 04:27.19 | Netzapper | Tomoe[HR]: rock on. Perhaps I'll look into it. I keep meaning to take someghing iminantly practical, like Krav Maga or something similar. |
| 04:28.13 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, heh |
| 04:28.13 | Phroziac | it's a model M |
| 04:28.14 | Tomoe[HR] | I didn't take it because of that |
| 04:28.18 | Tomoe[HR] | rather because it was bullshit-free |
| 04:28.21 | Phroziac | i keep pens and stuff on the little ledge. |
| 04:28.22 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, =) |
| 04:28.34 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, I plan to get a model m but a space saver model |
| 04:28.35 | Phroziac | Tomoe[HR]: why does it look like it has a place for a speaker inside it? |
| 04:28.42 | Tomoe[HR] | ? |
| 04:28.46 | Tomoe[HR] | what do you refer to? |
| 04:29.01 | Phroziac | Tomoe[HR]: it has a place in the bottom with slots in it where it looks like a speaker would go.. |
| 04:29.20 | Netzapper | skwashd-laptop: sorry, no, there's no WPA support built into the Z. And, you'd have to get a new wifi stack in order to support it. Don't know that anybody's done that yet. |
| 04:29.32 | Phroziac | anyway, i got the keyboard for free. it has a minor issue with the LEDS which kinda annoys me, they intermittently work. |
| 04:29.43 | Phroziac | so basically i can get into caps lock and not know it until i'm typing. :) |
| 04:30.14 | skwashd-laptop | Netzapper: thanks :( ... looks like wifi on the Z is out then :( |
| 04:30.26 | Netzapper | you're in a WPA-only environment? |
| 04:31.12 | Phroziac | Well, i'm going to go to bed in a bit, but i'm bored so i'll go speedy delete some things from wikipedia.. |
| 04:31.15 | skwashd-laptop | Netzapper: yeo |
| 04:31.16 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, I plan to get this one |
| 04:31.17 | skwashd-laptop | yep |
| 04:31.18 | Tomoe[HR] | http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r13686651 |
| 04:31.22 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, you nazi |
| 04:31.22 | Tomoe[HR] | =)) |
| 04:31.31 | Netzapper | skwashd-laptop: lame. Sorry. |
| 04:31.33 | Phroziac | nazi? |
| 04:31.39 | Phroziac | wtf is wpa? |
| 04:31.42 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, j/k |
| 04:31.43 | skwashd-laptop | Netzapper: how is it lame? wep is lame |
| 04:31.55 | Tomoe[HR] | regular naming for admins of course =) |
| 04:32.05 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, can't blame the poor fellow |
| 04:32.10 | Netzapper | skwashd-laptop: well, I run an open node for philosophical reasons. |
| 04:32.11 | Phroziac | Tomoe[HR]: ah, yes. |
| 04:32.18 | Netzapper | oh, I'm not blaming him. He's not lame, just the situation. |
| 04:32.21 | Phroziac | I've been an admin for 3 days by the way. |
| 04:32.29 | Tomoe[HR] | oh |
| 04:32.33 | Tomoe[HR] | new voting right |
| 04:32.41 | Tomoe[HR] | did Sam get promoted too? |
| 04:32.52 | skwashd-laptop | Netzapper: lol ... yeah well i don't have unlimited bw ... neither do my clients |
| 04:33.01 | Phroziac | sam who? |
| 04:33.07 | Tomoe[HR] | Sam Hocevar |
| 04:33.13 | Phroziac | there were like 4 sams on rfa recently.. |
| 04:33.18 | skwashd-laptop | Tomoe[HR]: it is my choice to only run wpa ... so you can kinda blame me |
| 04:33.21 | Netzapper | skwashd-laptop: oh, it's a corporate environment. No problem, then. Sorry we can't help you. |
| 04:33.23 | Tomoe[HR] | oh |
| 04:33.31 | Tomoe[HR] | skwashd-laptop, then I do blame you |
| 04:33.32 | skwashd-laptop | Netzapper: np |
| 04:33.32 | Phroziac | Ok, as for the keyboard speaker thing, you can see what i'm talking about in the pictures in that auction. |
| 04:33.32 | Tomoe[HR] | =P |
| 04:33.36 | Tomoe[HR] | yeah |
| 04:33.40 | Phroziac | yes, he did i believe. |
| 04:33.41 | Tomoe[HR] | I kinda forgot about that |
| 04:33.43 | skwashd-laptop | Tomoe[HR]: :P |
| 04:33.46 | Tomoe[HR] | =) |
| 04:33.57 | Phroziac | What's the difference between space saver model M and regular model M? |
| 04:34.05 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, can't you see on the pics? |
| 04:34.08 | Tomoe[HR] | no keypad |
| 04:34.09 | Tomoe[HR] | wtf |
| 04:34.18 | Phroziac | OH, i see now. |
| 04:34.19 | Phroziac | lol |
| 04:34.35 | Tomoe[HR] | so one of the requests for being an admin on wikipedogand is to be blind too? =P |
| 04:34.37 | Tomoe[HR] | *ducks* |
| 04:34.45 | Netzapper | oh holy shit, I want repelling gear! (despite being completely acrophobic) |
| 04:34.54 | Phroziac | no, you just have to be an asshole. |
| 04:35.18 | Phroziac | by the way, i love some of the stupid warnings for admins floating around |
| 04:35.25 | Phroziac | look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion to see what i mean |
| 04:35.41 | Phroziac | it basically says not to delete Wikipedia:Speedy deletions |
| 04:35.55 | Tomoe[HR] | lol |
| 04:36.01 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, pls not2delete gnaa |
| 04:36.02 | skwashd-laptop | thanks for the info |
| 04:36.03 | Tomoe[HR] | =P |
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| 04:37.08 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, |
| 04:37.09 | Tomoe[HR] | BM keyboard with internal speakers (part# 1394540, model M). Originally bundled with IBM RS/6000 computers, these keyboards actually have a small internal speaker inside the keyboard case. Almost all IBM model M keyboards have the mount points and grills for this function, but only the #1394540 has the speaker installed |
| 04:37.42 | Phroziac | hmm |
| 04:37.47 | Phroziac | Why would you want a speaker in the keyboard? |
| 04:37.59 | Tomoe[HR] | dunno |
| 04:38.03 | Phroziac | also, is it possible to get replacement key tops for this thing? |
| 04:38.24 | Phroziac | i'm missing F11, ?, left ctrl, right ctrl and alt. |
| 04:38.26 | Tomoe[HR] | of course |
| 04:38.39 | raduga | let me guess. |
| 04:38.54 | Tomoe[HR] | raduga: no |
| 04:38.55 | raduga | MewThreeReturns might be a candidate for speedy deletion, too? |
| 04:38.59 | Phroziac | one of them shattered when i got kinda pissed and slammed a fist on it, the other just never were there in the time i've used it |
| 04:39.08 | Tomoe[HR] | Phroziac, lol |
| 04:39.09 | Phroziac | raduga: tag it if it is ;p |
| 04:39.09 | Tomoe[HR] | =) |
| 04:39.19 | Phroziac | raduga: why are you stalking me? |
| 04:39.25 | raduga | Phroziac: ha ha |
| 04:39.28 | Netzapper | for fun |
| 04:40.30 | Phroziac | lol, an AOL ip page is tagged for speedy as patent nonsense, which it is |
| 04:40.45 | Netzapper | what's the URL for that? |
| 04:40.56 | Phroziac | [[User talk:172.172.60.201]] |
| 04:41.12 | Phroziac | i tagged it as being an aoler and removed the cruft |
| 04:41.17 | Netzapper | ah, dig |
| 04:41.32 | Phroziac | i need to de-cruft my desk. |
| 04:42.05 | Phroziac | I have no idea why i have a rc racing battery sitting next to my keyboard waiting to touch some change and blow up. |
| 04:42.48 | Netzapper | well, you like fireworks, right? |
| 04:43.41 | Phroziac | erm |
| 04:43.50 | Phroziac | That battery pack cost $60 |
| 04:45.51 | Netzapper | wow. That said, I'm seriously considering spending damn near $80 on a nylon webbing system that would allow me to mount my Z and my new keyboard on my leg |
| 04:46.01 | Netzapper | so, I guess I don't have any room to talk, really |
| 04:46.35 | Phroziac | haha |
| 04:46.50 | Netzapper | scroll down to "Modular Leg Rig" (http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/legrigs.shtml) |
| 04:47.01 | Phroziac | well, for the more extreme electronics setups on rcs now, you have to have LiPo batteries to get any decent runtime.. |
| 04:47.11 | Phroziac | a two cell lipo pack is around $120! |
| 04:47.25 | Netzapper | it's a shame I can't carry my pistol on it, too. Damn mandatory concealment in Philadelphia. |
| 04:48.19 | Netzapper | thing is, I can't seem to come up with a design for how to attach the keyboard to this doohickey |
| 04:48.32 | Phroziac | that's elite. |
| 04:48.37 | Phroziac | heh. |
| 04:48.48 | Netzapper | throw the Z in a pouch, obviously. But, the FrogPad needs to be mounted there permanently, and be usable while mounted. |
| 04:49.21 | Netzapper | I am elite. I'm a fucking latter day urban commando. Only, I wear birkenstocks instead of boots. |
| 04:49.48 | Netzapper | elite == never getting laid again. |
| 04:51.22 | Phroziac | heh. |
| 04:53.30 | Netzapper | what do you think? Is a Z about the same size as a .308 magazine? |
| 04:53.46 | Netzapper | where's my ruler? |
| 04:54.54 | Netzapper | I really should just ducktape the sucker to my leg |
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| 04:55.31 | Phroziac | i have no idea man |
| 04:56.09 | Netzapper | I lose the ruler all the time... but, I think that 4x4x1 should fit it (it'll stick out, of course, but whatever) |
| 04:56.49 | Phroziac | ok |
| 05:06.31 | Phroziac | Good night |
| 05:07.11 | Tomoe[HR] | night |
| 05:08.00 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, I have a waistbag |
| 05:08.15 | Tomoe[HR] | not those ugly breadloaf shaped ones |
| 05:08.21 | Tomoe[HR] | slim, more like a pocket |
| 05:09.18 | Tomoe[HR] | bought in japan heh |
| 05:10.29 | Phroziac | lol, i was just peaking in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion |
| 05:10.37 | Phroziac | they vfd'd vfd a few times |
| 05:10.54 | Tomoe[HR] | lol |
| 05:12.25 | Phroziac | Wikipedia:Votes for deletion is a Cabal-operated censorship mechanism used to promote doublethink and legitimize enforcement of thoughtcrime. Irredeemably POV. Encourages deletionism. |
| 05:13.06 | Phroziac | ok now i must leave. |
| 05:13.50 | Tomoe[HR] | you've been saying that for the last 30 minutes |
| 05:13.51 | Tomoe[HR] | =P |
| 05:14.16 | Phroziac | i know, i'm a procrastinater... |
| 05:15.08 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, thanks for linking to the first vest heh |
| 05:15.11 | Tomoe[HR] | I think I like it |
| 05:16.33 | Netzapper | the SeV? |
| 05:16.37 | Tomoe[HR] | yeah |
| 05:16.56 | Netzapper | yeah, it's pretty neat. It's a little expensive for my tastes, though. |
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| 05:26.44 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, I hope I'll be able to find it in some shop here |
| 05:27.04 | Netzapper | probably not... I've never heard of them doing B&M retail. But, maybe they do. |
| 05:27.16 | Tomoe[HR] | maybe |
| 05:27.27 | Tomoe[HR] | I've been able to find really rare stuff here |
| 05:27.27 | Tomoe[HR] | =) |
| 05:27.34 | Tomoe[HR] | rare as in not commonly seen in stores |
| 05:27.37 | Netzapper | where are you? |
| 05:27.46 | Tomoe[HR] | tokyo |
| 05:27.57 | Tomoe[HR] | you? |
| 05:28.05 | Netzapper | Philadelphia |
| 05:29.13 | Netzapper | yeah, I definitely think I'm going with this leg-rig setup... but, I think I'll hold off on it until I actually get the FrogPad and see if it works out |
| 05:29.48 | Netzapper | it should technically... but, I want to test its usability before I drop another $50 into a mounting setup for it. |
| 05:32.28 | Netzapper | in the meantime, I guess I'll be velcroing it to something. |
| 05:43.09 | Tomoe[HR] | Netzapper, can you recommend a nice holding belt? |
| 05:43.11 | Tomoe[HR] | I mean |
| 05:43.13 | Tomoe[HR] | just a belt |
| 05:43.25 | Tomoe[HR] | I have couple of belt-strapping bags but don't have a decent belt |
| 05:44.34 | Netzapper | well, I've been eyeing up the belts from several gunleather places, and the Rigger's Belt on that site I linked before (www.ustacticalsupply.com) seems pretty decent. But, I currently just have a craptastic nylon web belt I got at the surplus store. |
| 05:53.10 | Netzapper | alright, off to bed |
| 05:53.12 | Netzapper | peace |
| 05:57.58 | Tomoe[HR] | by |
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| 10:11.01 | Tomoe[HR] | how are you gentlemen |
| 10:18.47 | willgan | i'm good |
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| 10:57.58 | licksjp | Tomoe[HR], Hello |
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| 11:14.03 | danboid | Anyone here? |
| 11:29.05 | licksjp | danboid, hello |
| 11:32.09 | danboid | Just wondering if anyone here knew if you can run Opie on a Psion 7? |
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| 13:09.14 | gantrixx | hello? |
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| 18:10.59 | Netzapper | hey, Tomoe[HR]: you there? |
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| 18:44.09 | Hitch | Hello! |
| 18:44.43 | Netzapper | hi |
| 18:45.13 | Hitch | I just got my Z 1hr ago. Total noob. |
| 18:45.31 | Hitch | The manual is a little confusing. :) |
| 18:45.56 | Netzapper | what model? |
| 18:46.26 | Hitch | C1000 from conics |
| 18:47.06 | Netzapper | I don't have one, but what's the question? |
| 18:47.59 | Hitch | I'm trying to hook it up by SMB. I chose the network driver, and they installed. I just don't see the Z from my desktop. |
| 18:48.08 | Hitch | A Win2000 box |
| 18:48.30 | Netzapper | oh. I have no idea. Sorry. |
| 18:48.41 | Hitch | np, thanks for tryin |
| 18:48.44 | zip|6kL | oesf.org |
| 18:48.49 | zip|6kL | thats in the how tos |
| 18:49.01 | Hitch | ty |
| 18:49.56 | zip|6kL | its what him here for |
| 19:38.38 | licksjp | hello |
| 19:42.14 | Netzapper | hi: |
| 19:42.15 | Netzapper | ? |
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| 20:07.33 | dill | hi there, does anyone know the /dev entry for a cf card on the sl5500? |
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| 20:37.40 | Hitch | OK, I have the C1000 set to PC Link/IO and can ping the Z, but can't telnet in |
| 20:38.09 | Hitch | anyone know what a noob would do wrong? |
| 21:12.13 | raduga | hitch: if you can ping, that's good. |
| 21:12.23 | raduga | if you can't telnet, that's ALSO good :) |
| 21:12.33 | raduga | shouldn't use telnet. telnet = bad = insecure |
| 21:12.36 | raduga | use ssh! |
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| 21:17.05 | eccerr0r | well if you're using usb link, I don't think telnet is THAT insecure... |
| 21:18.29 | eccerr0r | can the zaurus telnet itself, is question #1... |
| 21:20.09 | Hitch | well, yeah, I'll be using ssh later... I dunno how to start telnet... can't open terminal |
| 21:20.18 | Hitch | it has a question mark instead of an icon |
| 21:20.26 | Hitch | and doesn't open |
| 21:20.32 | ljp | sometimes telnet is what you want.. like when you are testing and need to use a script to access the device |
| 21:21.27 | Hitch | Yeah, I've been using linux for 8 years, but I wanted to see the japanese, so I had conics do the conversion leaving japanese support |
| 21:21.49 | Hitch | there's a lot of japanese only stuff still on it |
| 21:22.50 | Hitch | maybe I should just get a SD card reader and pick another ROM |
| 21:25.11 | Hitch | BBIAS, going to reboot and see if the drivers do better after that |
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| 21:35.28 | Hitch | Nope. Eh, I'm going to go buy a read. |
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| 22:06.00 | Phroziac | ey |
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