| 00:37.50 | licksjp | morning! |
| 00:38.18 | ljp | late morning |
| 00:41.03 | licksjp | re>ljp |
| 00:52.20 | George | ljp: die |
| 00:58.16 | ljp | G, yr mean |
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| 00:59.35 | Tomoe | how are you gentlemen |
| 01:01.14 | subdue | it's his way of showing affection |
| 01:02.08 | ljp | i know |
| 01:02.27 | ljp | he's mad cause I keep bugging him about his pinball game |
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| 01:50.36 | George | ljp: dood |
| 01:58.58 | Tomoe | shoa~~~~~ |
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| 02:37.36 | wallabee | hello tomoe |
| 02:37.56 | wallabee | so you're wifi enabled now ? |
| 02:38.35 | Tomoe | hy wallabee |
| 02:38.37 | Tomoe | somewha |
| 02:38.39 | Tomoe | *what |
| 02:38.46 | Tomoe | however i don't like it |
| 02:38.56 | Tomoe | I think I'd try to dig up a low power usb wifi |
| 02:39.02 | Tomoe | it would be much better |
| 02:39.43 | wallabee | you mean, because of it's location ? |
| 02:40.57 | subdue | that might be worse |
| 02:41.04 | subdue | it's chew up your batteries even faster |
| 02:42.32 | Tomoe | yeah |
| 02:43.07 | Tomoe | I know subdue however I'd rather have 3 hours of relatively comfortable typing instead of 4 of not so comfy |
| 02:43.13 | subdue | Tomoe: you're native japanese speaking, right? |
| 02:43.17 | Tomoe | lol |
| 02:43.20 | Tomoe | wtf |
| 02:43.21 | Tomoe | no |
| 02:43.24 | subdue | darn |
| 02:43.24 | Tomoe | wallabee is |
| 02:43.27 | subdue | ah |
| 02:43.29 | wallabee | haha |
| 02:43.40 | subdue | I was wondering if one of you can google atty.jp |
| 02:43.51 | subdue | see if anything comes up as to why he took his site down |
| 02:43.55 | wallabee | tomoe: i found it quite annoying at first but i got used to type with the cf card in |
| 02:44.07 | Tomoe | meh |
| 02:44.08 | Tomoe | =) |
| 02:44.19 | Tomoe | well see |
| 02:44.26 | Tomoe | anyways I'm off to bed to get some sleep lol |
| 02:44.26 | subdue | a usb card would be worse I'd think in terms of comfort |
| 02:44.32 | Tomoe | haven't slept all night |
| 02:44.35 | Tomoe | subdue, not really |
| 02:44.40 | subdue | ok |
| 02:44.46 | Tomoe | since it's almost on the middle of the back side |
| 02:44.53 | Tomoe | and it would be covered by the screen |
| 02:45.04 | Tomoe | oh yeah |
| 02:45.12 | Tomoe | I would change the connector |
| 02:45.33 | subdue | ok |
| 02:45.36 | Tomoe | from a female to mini |
| 02:45.45 | Tomoe | so I can connect it directly |
| 02:45.49 | Tomoe | however from what I've read |
| 02:46.11 | Tomoe | most guys say that their usb wifi cards don't work unless connected through a powered usb hub |
| 02:46.13 | Tomoe | =/ |
| 02:46.18 | Tomoe | OH YEAH |
| 02:46.20 | Tomoe | wallabee, |
| 02:46.33 | Tomoe | did you manage to find any decent click keyboards here? |
| 02:46.34 | wallabee | tomoe: look, my plushie sees no trouble with the wlan cf card, even when typing on the keyboard |
| 02:46.43 | wallabee | click keyboard ? |
| 02:46.45 | subdue | plushie? |
| 02:46.50 | Tomoe | lol |
| 02:46.58 | Tomoe | wallabee, as in ibm ones and such |
| 02:47.05 | Tomoe | i need a decent keyboard |
| 02:47.16 | wallabee | subdue: yes, my plushie -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallabee/32779934/ |
| 02:47.23 | Tomoe | if I don't manage to find anything better I think I'll go for the Happy Hacking one |
| 02:47.40 | Tomoe | or I might order one |
| 02:47.42 | wallabee | that's for the zaurus ? |
| 02:47.51 | subdue | lol |
| 02:47.52 | Tomoe | nope |
| 02:47.54 | subdue | that's funny |
| 02:48.03 | Tomoe | well of course you can use it with the zaurus |
| 02:48.04 | Tomoe | =P |
| 02:48.08 | Tomoe | but for general use |
| 02:48.20 | wallabee | i tried some things but nothing really good yet |
| 02:48.22 | Tomoe | since I value the interface units most |
| 02:48.40 | wallabee | I'm usually fine with laptop built-in keyboards |
| 02:48.46 | Tomoe | this one is ok |
| 02:48.51 | subdue | (she's watching you - in the next pic) |
| 02:48.52 | Tomoe | however I prefer a real on |
| 02:48.53 | Tomoe | *one |
| 02:49.06 | wallabee | I think i'll probably go for an Happy Hacking if I had the need |
| 02:49.06 | Tomoe | <- old skol =( |
| 02:49.13 | Tomoe | http://www.pckeyboard.com/images/blkSilver122.jpg |
| 02:49.24 | Tomoe | this one |
| 02:49.26 | wallabee | but they are quite expensive, like 6,000Y if I remember well |
| 02:49.32 | Tomoe | lol no no |
| 02:49.33 | Tomoe | not that one |
| 02:49.35 | Tomoe | that one sucks |
| 02:49.41 | Tomoe | I would buy the Professional one |
| 02:50.19 | Tomoe | well |
| 02:50.26 | Tomoe | I would prefer either that one up that I linked |
| 02:50.28 | Tomoe | or this one |
| 02:50.29 | Tomoe | http://www.clickykeyboard.com/2005/1370475/1370475-004.jpg |
| 02:50.30 | wallabee | ha, didn't know about this professional |
| 02:50.32 | wallabee | seems bigger |
| 02:50.36 | Tomoe | lol |
| 02:50.37 | Tomoe | it's the same size |
| 02:50.48 | Tomoe | differences are |
| 02:50.53 | Tomoe | it doesn't have cursor keys |
| 02:51.08 | Tomoe | and it uses different technology for detecting keypresses |
| 02:51.14 | Tomoe | capacitance sensors |
| 02:51.22 | Tomoe | and it feels much better |
| 02:51.23 | Tomoe | however |
| 02:51.26 | Tomoe | 24000Y |
| 02:52.10 | wallabee | oh... too bad I was almost going to get one |
| 02:52.34 | Tomoe | heh =) |
| 02:52.35 | Tomoe | well |
| 02:52.41 | Tomoe | this ibm old school one |
| 02:52.52 | Tomoe | and then hack it by putting a bluetooth module inside |
| 02:52.56 | Tomoe | that'd be cool |
| 02:52.57 | Tomoe | =) |
| 02:52.59 | wallabee | haha |
| 02:53.57 | Tomoe | lol what? |
| 02:54.16 | Tomoe | oh yeah |
| 02:54.19 | wallabee | your keyboard hacking plans |
| 02:54.28 | Tomoe | I set up a neat tv set |
| 02:54.37 | wallabee | this would be a neat thing |
| 02:54.41 | Tomoe | I got a 15" LCD TV for 9000 yen |
| 02:54.42 | Tomoe | lol |
| 02:54.58 | Tomoe | that's actually non-working apple lcd for 1000yen |
| 02:55.05 | wallabee | not bad |
| 02:55.05 | Tomoe | tv box for 7000 yen |
| 02:55.16 | Tomoe | and those piglet speakers I've told you about for another grand |
| 02:55.20 | Tomoe | yeah |
| 02:55.23 | Tomoe | I fixed that lcd |
| 02:55.27 | wallabee | hehe ^^ |
| 02:55.31 | Tomoe | lol the power adaptor was broken |
| 02:55.36 | Tomoe | just a bit tingling |
| 02:55.49 | Tomoe | cost me additional 300 yen for a soldering iron |
| 02:57.03 | wallabee | well, overall that's a good price |
| 02:57.22 | Tomoe | of course it is |
| 02:57.31 | Tomoe | since I got a good monitor with it too |
| 02:58.12 | wallabee | I still don't have TV yet, because I found it too costy |
| 02:58.54 | wallabee | i don't want to put an ugly CRT one in my room |
| 02:59.13 | wallabee | and decent LCDs are rather expensive |
| 02:59.33 | Tomoe | yeah that's why I went with this |
| 02:59.35 | Tomoe | =) |
| 02:59.41 | wallabee | since I don't have a good monitor myself |
| 03:00.12 | Tomoe | get it for 1000 yen |
| 03:00.13 | Tomoe | =P |
| 03:00.14 | Tomoe | anyways |
| 03:00.16 | Tomoe | off2bed |
| 03:00.22 | wallabee | good night ^^ |
| 03:00.26 | Tomoe | I cannot control my eyelids anymore lol |
| 03:00.46 | wallabee | we all know this feeling ^^ |
| 03:01.01 | Tomoe | OK HARTIZ <3 |
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| 04:57.14 | DoTheDog | Hello, anybody out there? |
| 05:01.08 | DoTheDog | guess not...;) |
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| 05:03.05 | wallabee | well... |
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| 05:38.32 | rabies | hey |
| 05:38.40 | rabies | anyone know of a list of SL-5500 roms i can take a look at? |
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| 05:41.17 | euphem | is anyone here running GIMP ? |
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| 05:55.26 | euphem | i also need some help getting the battery to show up in xfce4 |
| 05:55.35 | euphem | when i right click on the desktop... i get nothing |
| 05:57.42 | euphem | is there opera for pdaxrom ? |
| 06:00.54 | rabies | man, im almost fed up w/ OZ |
| 06:01.11 | rabies | >_< |
| 06:02.18 | wallabee | rabies: lighten up, this just happens ^^ |
| 06:02.41 | rabies | arg |
| 06:03.15 | rabies | wallabee: i would except im on a proprietary PDA w/ OZ and i cant sync, the thing freezes half the time, and THERES NO DOCUMENTATION |
| 06:03.27 | rabies | you'd think that they would at least get basic functionality |
| 06:03.53 | rabies | i like the interface, i like the programs |
| 06:04.05 | rabies | but if i cant even get to the internet w/ it or even to my computer wtf is the point |
| 06:05.14 | euphem | soooo |
| 06:05.33 | euphem | can someone help me w/ internet stability on pdaxrom? |
| 06:05.40 | euphem | i have a linksys wifi card and |
| 06:05.43 | rabies | >:-( |
| 06:05.47 | euphem | it cuts out after a few minutes |
| 06:05.48 | euphem | :-( |
| 06:05.55 | rabies | heh |
| 06:05.56 | rabies | :) |
| 06:05.58 | euphem | but it's okay in sharp rom |
| 06:06.10 | euphem | in pdaxrom though i can barely download a package |
| 06:06.20 | rabies | at least you can connect =P |
| 06:06.31 | rabies | w/ OZ i cant even get on to...well...anything |
| 06:06.48 | euphem | yeah OZ blows monkey nuts |
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| 06:07.03 | euphem | yay |
| 06:07.06 | euphem | my favorite person |
| 06:07.07 | wallabee | rabies: well, guess that's the price for using a unsupported "open" system on your proprietary pda ? |
| 06:07.21 | euphem | i need internet stability! |
| 06:07.28 | euphem | somebody point to some magic drivers or something |
| 06:07.33 | euphem | come on! |
| 06:07.43 | rabies | wallabee: i guess...back to the official rom w/ me |
| 06:07.52 | rabies | just means i gotta use windows for everything, ah well |
| 06:08.05 | rabies | high hooo high hoo, back to the official rom i goooo |
| 06:08.47 | euphem | i can't get the battery thing to work |
| 06:08.51 | euphem | somebody help me! |
| 06:09.00 | benplaut | what's it not doing? |
| 06:09.29 | euphem | okay |
| 06:09.33 | euphem | so my impression is that |
| 06:09.37 | euphem | you right click the desktop |
| 06:09.41 | euphem | and you get a menu |
| 06:09.45 | euphem | and then you go to accessories |
| 06:09.51 | euphem | and then you select the battery thing, right? |
| 06:09.54 | benplaut | yup |
| 06:10.08 | benplaut | you have to have systray applet installed and on the panel, first |
| 06:10.18 | euphem | kay |
| 06:10.20 | euphem | that is done |
| 06:10.29 | benplaut | now does it work? |
| 06:10.30 | euphem | it appears as 2 vertical lines |
| 06:10.37 | benplaut | yeah |
| 06:10.42 | benplaut | now do the menu thing |
| 06:10.42 | euphem | nope |
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| 06:10.48 | euphem | i right click on the desktop |
| 06:10.48 | rabies | hum |
| 06:10.51 | euphem | and nothing happens at all |
| 06:10.55 | euphem | fn click |
| 06:10.59 | euphem | if i fn click on systray |
| 06:10.59 | rabies | thing is that i like the opie interface more... |
| 06:11.02 | euphem | i get something that says |
| 06:11.08 | euphem | "there are no options for this thingy" |
| 06:11.15 | euphem | except it's position |
| 06:11.21 | benplaut | euphem: click the little mouse with an X |
| 06:11.24 | benplaut | on the panel |
| 06:11.26 | wallabee | rabies: life is full of tradeoffs |
| 06:11.35 | rabies | wallabee: heh |
| 06:11.52 | rabies | wallabee: ironically this model (SL-5500) is supposedly one of the better supported models |
| 06:11.54 | rabies | go figure eh? |
| 06:12.05 | euphem | where |
| 06:12.07 | euphem | is a little mouse |
| 06:12.10 | euphem | with an x ? |
| 06:13.00 | benplaut | on the panel? |
| 06:13.05 | euphem | nope |
| 06:13.09 | euphem | no little mouse on my panel |
| 06:13.21 | benplaut | hold on a sec... are you running a pure XFCEm or the combo with matchbox? |
| 06:13.29 | euphem | the combo w/ matchbox |
| 06:13.31 | benplaut | *xfce |
| 06:13.32 | benplaut | k |
| 06:13.37 | euphem | i've never had a little mouse though |
| 06:13.43 | euphem | i wish i could run pure XFCE |
| 06:13.49 | benplaut | then, on the desktop, go to... |
| 06:13.50 | benplaut | just a sec |
| 06:13.51 | euphem | but i can't get the clickable icons.... |
| 06:13.58 | benplaut | you can't? |
| 06:14.04 | benplaut | what's it not doing? |
| 06:14.12 | euphem | in pure XFCE |
| 06:14.22 | euphem | i don't get the active tasks, office, internet, sound&video |
| 06:14.27 | euphem | clickable things |
| 06:14.29 | euphem | i just get a panel |
| 06:14.31 | benplaut | i know |
| 06:14.31 | euphem | and... a panel |
| 06:14.35 | euphem | yeah... |
| 06:14.43 | benplaut | and you have a messed up keymap |
| 06:14.50 | euphem | yeah |
| 06:14.53 | euphem | point there |
| 06:15.01 | benplaut | OK |
| 06:15.18 | euphem | and my wifi is still cutting out :-( |
| 06:15.30 | euphem | this only happens in pdaxrom |
| 06:15.39 | benplaut | so right click on the panel, and select add "add new item", and then ass "Xfce Menu" |
| 06:15.40 | euphem | well, and oz |
| 06:15.46 | euphem | oh |
| 06:15.48 | euphem | whenever i do that |
| 06:15.49 | euphem | it crashes |
| 06:15.53 | euphem | i tried that b4 |
| 06:16.05 | benplaut | got the little mouse now |
| 06:16.06 | benplaut | ? |
| 06:16.12 | euphem | i just told you |
| 06:16.17 | euphem | when i do that, XFCE crashes |
| 06:16.23 | euphem | and i get a black console screen |
| 06:16.42 | euphem | yup |
| 06:16.44 | euphem | just crashed |
| 06:16.45 | euphem | w00t |
| 06:17.16 | euphem | /home/root/.xinitrc: line 82: 13288 Segmentation fault xfce4-panel |
| 06:17.41 | benplaut | oh |
| 06:17.43 | euphem | waiting for the X server to shut down The application 'xfce-mcs-manager' lost its connection to the display :0.0; |
| 06:17.51 | benplaut | hmm |
| 06:18.08 | benplaut | go back to pure XFCE (startxfce4) and add the menu applet |
| 06:18.11 | euphem | most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed the application |
| 06:19.18 | benplaut | yeah... i know the error |
| 06:19.18 | euphem | what is the screen flipping commant |
| 06:19.25 | euphem | xandr |
| 06:19.26 | euphem | errr |
| 06:19.34 | benplaut | xrandr -o right |
| 06:19.35 | euphem | rxandr? |
| 06:19.38 | euphem | o ok |
| 06:20.00 | euphem | okay |
| 06:20.01 | euphem | no little mouse |
| 06:20.12 | euphem | only a pretty taskbar at the top |
| 06:20.25 | benplaut | no panel |
| 06:20.25 | benplaut | ? |
| 06:20.50 | euphem | yeah i got a panel |
| 06:20.52 | euphem | no little mouse |
| 06:20.54 | euphem | i can try to add it |
| 06:20.58 | euphem | i think it will crash |
| 06:21.09 | benplaut | try |
| 06:21.17 | euphem | ummm |
| 06:21.21 | euphem | wft is right click |
| 06:21.35 | benplaut | fn+click? |
| 06:21.43 | benplaut | fn+shift+click? |
| 06:21.50 | benplaut | fn+tab+click? |
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| 06:22.00 | euphem | yeah i'm trying i'll go look at the mouse thing |
| 06:22.01 | wallabee | fn+shift+tab+click ? |
| 06:22.04 | benplaut | shift+tab+click? |
| 06:22.14 | benplaut | wallabee: nope :P |
| 06:22.24 | euphem | hmm doesn't say |
| 06:22.27 | wallabee | my mistake then |
| 06:22.28 | benplaut | i've gotten all of the above to work at some time or other |
| 06:22.29 | euphem | i've tried a bunch of those |
| 06:22.30 | euphem | notta |
| 06:22.33 | benplaut | hmm |
| 06:22.49 | benplaut | i dunno |
| 06:23.17 | euphem | LOL |
| 06:23.20 | euphem | I FIGURED IT OUT |
| 06:23.23 | benplaut | ? |
| 06:23.27 | euphem | it's the stupid period key |
| 06:23.30 | euphem | that doesn't work |
| 06:23.30 | euphem | :-p |
| 06:23.31 | benplaut | :P |
| 06:23.37 | benplaut | hilarious |
| 06:23.52 | benplaut | well, that explains the keymap problem... |
| 06:23.55 | euphem | yeah it crashed |
| 06:24.00 | benplaut | damn |
| 06:24.01 | euphem | and now it's just frozen on this weird screen |
| 06:24.14 | euphem | *sigh* |
| 06:24.24 | benplaut | do ctrl+l_kanji+backspace |
| 06:24.41 | euphem | k that did it |
| 06:24.44 | euphem | back to consale |
| 06:24.51 | euphem | should i reinstall this shizzle? |
| 06:25.05 | benplaut | reinstall XFCE... |
| 06:25.24 | euphem | and dependencies? |
| 06:25.29 | euphem | show me which one to use |
| 06:25.35 | euphem | maybe i used a bad one last time |
| 06:26.00 | benplaut | there's only one package for XFCE... |
| 06:26.02 | euphem | is this going to let me remove the package while running the panel? |
| 06:26.08 | benplaut | umm |
| 06:26.14 | euphem | in that thingy |
| 06:26.19 | benplaut | do a quick killall xfce4-panel to be sure |
| 06:26.19 | euphem | they talked about a 2 part package |
| 06:26.30 | benplaut | oh, that's why it's crashing! |
| 06:26.38 | benplaut | there's a newer package on the last page |
| 06:26.43 | euphem | no |
| 06:26.47 | euphem | thath's the one that i used |
| 06:26.51 | euphem | the one on the last page |
| 06:26.53 | benplaut | yeah |
| 06:26.54 | benplaut | it' |
| 06:26.57 | benplaut | s a 1 part |
| 06:27.28 | euphem | hmm |
| 06:27.31 | euphem | when i killed the panel |
| 06:27.33 | benplaut | i feal so weird helping people about a topic i completely don't understand... |
| 06:27.34 | euphem | it killed the rest too |
| 06:27.37 | benplaut | hmm |
| 06:27.45 | benplaut | well... |
| 06:27.54 | benplaut | do you have many files on the Z? |
| 06:27.55 | euphem | did you use the package on the last page? |
| 06:28.00 | euphem | nothing important |
| 06:28.03 | benplaut | or alot of settings? |
| 06:28.07 | euphem | just packages i'd have to reinstall |
| 06:28.17 | euphem | i wiped it like yesterday to do this :-p |
| 06:28.19 | euphem | nothing to lose |
| 06:28.21 | benplaut | well, i recommend a reflash, and start from scratch |
| 06:28.29 | euphem | okay. |
| 06:28.31 | euphem | *joy* |
| 06:28.38 | benplaut | it only worked for me when it was the first thing i did after flashing |
| 06:28.43 | euphem | what wifi card are you using? |
| 06:28.47 | benplaut | if i did any tweaking beforehand, it messed up |
| 06:28.49 | benplaut | none, yet |
| 06:28.55 | euphem | hmmm okay |
| 06:28.56 | benplaut | going to get a WCF12 |
| 06:29.35 | euphem | that's the one i have |
| 06:29.38 | euphem | it cuts out all the time |
| 06:29.42 | benplaut | hmm |
| 06:29.42 | euphem | but i think it's the software |
| 06:29.48 | euphem | b/c in sharp rom its ok |
| 06:29.51 | benplaut | might go for that Ambicom, then |
| 06:29.54 | euphem | i got mine used |
| 06:29.58 | euphem | just check around |
| 06:30.14 | euphem | i got a pretec sd |
| 06:30.17 | euphem | it seems to work ok |
| 06:30.20 | benplaut | that may be the problem... |
| 06:30.24 | benplaut | used, that is |
| 06:30.24 | euphem | no problems w/ it yet |
| 06:30.29 | euphem | maybe iuno |
| 06:30.33 | benplaut | it may be that it has a botched firware |
| 06:30.34 | euphem | it looked in good condition |
| 06:30.37 | benplaut | i g2g |
| 06:30.40 | euphem | cya |
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| 07:16.16 | euphem | man |
| 07:16.19 | euphem | xfce4 hates me |
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| 09:08.19 | licksjp | hello |
| 09:08.32 | wallabee | hi |
| 09:09.03 | licksjp | Did u my web?>wallabee |
| 09:09.45 | wallabee | I didn't your web, what's it's location ? |
| 09:10.04 | licksjp | Japanese>wallabee |
| 09:10.18 | licksjp | and about zaurus soft open |
| 09:11.46 | wallabee | this sounds interesting, will you show me ? |
| 09:12.31 | licksjp | http://www3.kcn.ne.jp/~sayyuki/ |
| 09:17.21 | wallabee | not bad ^^ |
| 09:17.45 | licksjp | ? |
| 09:18.02 | licksjp | new soft opened |
| 09:18.22 | licksjp | BMI VGA B-ban |
| 09:18.38 | wallabee | your download counter page and zaurus section don't make proper charset declaration |
| 09:25.48 | licksjp | Let get u my soft!>wallabee |
| 09:27.41 | wallabee | licksjp: ok, I may try some |
| 09:28.02 | wallabee | but right now I have some work to do |
| 09:28.24 | licksjp | ok, Good luck ur job |
| 09:29.12 | wallabee | thanks |
| 09:31.01 | licksjp | I'm dinner |
| 09:31.10 | licksjp | later>wallabee |
| 09:31.15 | wallabee | happy dinner |
| 09:31.28 | licksjp | thank u |
| 10:36.15 | licksjp | tadaima>wallabee |
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| 13:32.13 | rmrfchik | ViV: ti kakoi ROM usaesh? |
| 13:34.47 | ViV | voobshe - pdaxrom |
| 13:35.14 | ViV | ili ty pro spirtnoe? =) |
| 13:35.21 | rmrfchik | do u know, how to add new BT/CF card into pdaXrom? |
| 13:35.22 | rmrfchik | ;) |
| 13:35.41 | ViV | which one do you have? |
| 13:35.56 | ViV | my socket bt rev. e needs only to be inserted =) |
| 13:36.11 | rmrfchik | Anycom |
| 13:36.42 | rmrfchik | when I swithc off (suspend) Zaurus, it freeze up (beacuse "hcitool hci0 down" is not issued) |
| 13:37.56 | ViV | have you tried other cards? |
| 13:38.32 | rmrfchik | nope. I have only this one. |
| 13:40.00 | ViV | i think that shutdown/suspend scritps behave equal with all cards, check if your scripts weren't altered |
| 13:40.23 | rmrfchik | I can't found "suspend" script at all! |
| 13:40.50 | rmrfchik | I think, this mystic script doesn't recognize my card is BT/CF card |
| 13:41.33 | ViV | so. does your card work until you suspend z? |
| 13:41.41 | ViV | is hci0 up and running? |
| 13:41.52 | ViV | if so, then your card is fully recognized |
| 13:42.22 | rmrfchik | my card works fine unitl suspend. |
| 13:42.43 | rmrfchik | if I don't issue "down" before suspend, a nightmare comes |
| 13:45.40 | ViV | find a file in etc that contans 'hcitool hci0 down' |
| 13:46.09 | ViV | if you have no one, then we've located this bug |
| 13:50.32 | rmrfchik | ViV: /etc/pcmcia/bluetooth file, which looks into /etc/bluetooth/bt-uart.conf, whose format is unclear for me |
| 13:51.04 | rmrfchik | and /etc/pcmcia/serial |
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| 13:56.15 | ViV | strange |
| 13:56.58 | ViV | if you'll come to z-drinking-party on next week you can test your z with other bt-cards =) |
| 14:05.01 | rmrfchik | opredelilis s mestom? |
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| 14:32.16 | rmrfchik | is there F1-F12 keys on keyboard? |
| 14:32.37 | ViV | no |
| 14:43.02 | rmrfchik | "WSS", "LSE039":/dev/ttyS2 any |
| 14:58.09 | ViV | great |
| 14:58.22 | ViV | send this to sashz |
| 15:01.03 | rmrfchik | email? |
| 15:01.19 | ViV | mail or icq |
| 15:01.25 | ViV | but he isn't online now |
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| 15:17.29 | rmrfchik | ViV: ok, rephraze now. what is sashz email? |
| 15:21.07 | ViV | sashz@pdaxrom.org |
| 15:25.11 | rmrfchik | done |
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| 17:10.03 | raduga | anyone alive? |
| 17:10.47 | ViV | hshhh |
| 17:15.44 | raduga | anyone here familiar with v4l? |
| 17:15.48 | raduga | video4linux? |
| 17:15.58 | raduga | or know how to read /dev/video? :/ |
| 17:20.48 | ViV | read it byte to byte |
| 17:25.57 | raduga | none of the standard tools seem to recognise what it is |
| 17:26.04 | raduga | I've tried ffmpeg and vlc |
| 17:26.06 | George | wurble |
| 17:26.07 | George | hello |
| 17:26.15 | raduga | george: know anything about webcams? |
| 17:26.16 | George | anyone want to donate me money? |
| 17:26.19 | George | raduga: nope |
| 17:26.22 | George | raduga: I'm not a nerd. |
| 17:26.24 | raduga | george: nope |
| 17:26.36 | raduga | george: i only donate money to nerds |
| 17:26.39 | George | harhar |
| 17:26.48 | George | well, I don't want your money anyway |
| 17:26.58 | raduga | well, I don't want your help anyway |
| 17:27.03 | George | I'm more uber than you |
| 17:29.04 | George | not quite uber enough |
| 17:29.05 | George | eh? |
| 17:29.07 | ViV | you should be SverhRaguga 8)) |
| 17:30.06 | ViV | radugas are uber alles by default - they're in sky after all |
| 17:30.38 | George | radtuna: you're just not cool. |
| 17:34.39 | radtuna | 14 degrees in here. |
| 17:34.42 | radtuna | I disagree! |
| 17:35.13 | radtuna | sorry :( |
| 17:35.15 | radtuna | you're right |
| 17:35.20 | radtuna | its closer to 17 degrees |
| 17:35.23 | radtuna | not so cool |
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| 17:40.36 | Tomoe | How are you gentlemen |
| 17:40.48 | Tomoe | over japanese edu nazis |
| 17:43.26 | radtuna | ffmpeg refuses to believe I have an active video device |
| 17:43.44 | radtuna | dies with "could not find video grab device" even when I specify /dev/video |
| 17:44.02 | radtuna | oddly, running strace doesn't show any system calls that attempt to open anything |
| 17:44.37 | radtuna | opens the output file, then "can't find grab device" and bails |
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| 17:55.38 | licksjp | Hello>Tomoe |
| 17:57.35 | radtuna | hmmm. ok |
| 17:58.01 | radtuna | unless you specify the dimensions of the incoming stream, ffmpeg won't detect that there's any video source at all! |
| 17:58.22 | radtuna | annoying. it should at least bail with something more useful |
| 17:59.00 | Tomoe | hy licksjp |
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| 18:02.59 | radtuna | boo! |
| 18:02.59 | radtuna | i'm a little less than happy with rc10.4 of pdaXrom now |
| 18:03.03 | zip|6kL | y? |
| 18:03.11 | radtuna | when mplayer exits, it blanks and freezes the screen |
| 18:03.17 | radtuna | and... its not recoverable without reboot |
| 18:03.23 | radtuna | adjusting backlight doesn't help |
| 18:03.31 | radtuna | restarting X doesn't help |
| 18:03.37 | radtuna | suspend/resume doesn't help |
| 18:03.56 | radtuna | other idiosyncracies |
| 18:04.03 | radtuna | it seems a little less stable |
| 18:04.18 | radtuna | my wifi card freezes often |
| 18:04.29 | radtuna | (it doesn't with rc10 or cacko qt) |
| 18:04.50 | radtuna | but I think I see the problem :( |
| 18:05.01 | radtuna | on pdaXrom home page: |
| 18:05.02 | radtuna | Donat-o-Meter: |
| 18:05.02 | radtuna | Goal: $500 |
| 18:05.03 | radtuna | Donated: $65 |
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| 18:13.28 | Tomoe | lol cheapasses |
| 18:13.29 | Tomoe | hm |
| 18:13.33 | Tomoe | not that reminds me |
| 18:13.38 | Tomoe | I'll go check OZ |
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| 18:20.53 | Tomoe | hy gents |
| 18:25.24 | chrget | Hi Tomoe |
| 18:26.05 | Tomoe | ok, preparing for OZ install |
| 18:26.08 | Tomoe | hope it goes well lol |
| 18:27.05 | Tomoe | lol |
| 18:27.07 | Tomoe | why? |
| 18:27.32 | chrget | Just my personal little OZ aversion |
| 18:28.42 | Tomoe | any particular reasons or just matter of personal preferance? |
| 18:52.35 | chrget | Just personal experience |
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| 18:58.36 | zip|6kL_ | I get to go to linuxworld tomarrow :D |
| 19:10.39 | Bamir | morning |
| 19:10.47 | Tomoe | hy |
| 19:10.50 | Tomoe | cool zip |
| 19:10.56 | Bamir | hehe |
| 19:11.02 | zip|6kL_ | yep im cooler than u heh |
| 19:11.04 | Tomoe | Bamir, long time no type dood |
| 19:11.13 | Bamir | yup |
| 19:11.18 | Bamir | work crazy |
| 19:11.33 | Tomoe | zip: cool as in non-hot, not as in popular/impression-leaving |
| 19:11.38 | Bamir | but I wrote a script to change the wallpaper randomly on my z |
| 19:12.00 | Bamir | lol, where to upload |
| 19:12.04 | Tomoe | that's something |
| 19:12.04 | Tomoe | =) |
| 19:12.09 | Tomoe | lol |
| 19:12.13 | Bamir | still have them:) |
| 19:12.22 | Tomoe | them? |
| 19:12.27 | Bamir | maybe, emaule is the best bet |
| 19:12.38 | Bamir | there were 2 dic's |
| 19:12.42 | Bamir | dict's |
| 19:12.43 | Tomoe | oh |
| 19:12.45 | Tomoe | that |
| 19:12.50 | Tomoe | sorry completely forgot about that |
| 19:12.54 | Tomoe | yeah I'd like to get them |
| 19:12.59 | Tomoe | if it's no problem for you |
| 19:13.02 | Tomoe | hm |
| 19:13.07 | Tomoe | lemme think of a method |
| 19:13.18 | Bamir | maybe a p2p client? |
| 19:13.54 | Tomoe | only if you can put it on a tracker =) |
| 19:13.56 | Tomoe | = bt |
| 19:14.12 | Bamir | yea theres always that |
| 19:14.49 | Tomoe | with my setup, it's kinda hard to get the rest of p2p working |
| 19:15.01 | Tomoe | even that which claims to support proxying |
| 19:15.42 | Tomoe | because I'm like pc->router->LAN->gateway->lan->gateway->net |
| 19:17.24 | Bamir | ouch |
| 19:18.49 | Bamir | how safe is it to say, start a second instance of "launcher" on a z then kill it? |
| 19:19.49 | Bamir | I need to find how to get the wallpaper refreshed on my 3100, any ideas people? |
| 19:24.32 | Tomoe | lol |
| 19:24.34 | Tomoe | dunno |
| 19:24.38 | Tomoe | about that |
| 19:24.53 | Tomoe | however what do you people think of 'green house' sd cards |
| 19:27.28 | Bamir | duuno....use kingston, seems reliable and cheap |
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| 20:49.45 | bmsleight | Hi All |
| 20:49.52 | Tomoe | HY LOL |
| 20:54.15 | bmsleight | I am trying to get my Nokia Mobile Phone (6680), connected to the zaurus SL-C3000 using a mini-a->B->USB cable To act as a modem. I have downloaded minicom to help debug. Current I have being try to create the dev. But no much luck. The only hint I have is dmesg: usb.c: register new driver acm acm.c: v0.21:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters. No detail on which /dev the modem is. Any pointers ? |
| 20:55.16 | Tomoe | hm |
| 20:55.23 | Tomoe | isn't nokia using softmodems? |
| 20:55.34 | Tomoe | there's a package for handling that, gnokii or something like that |
| 20:55.41 | Tomoe | sorry if I'm wrong, don't own a nokia |
| 20:56.55 | bmsleight | gnokii ASAIK only to the device to get contacts atc, not for using a modem. I believe nokia's are external hardmodems. If only you can connect using tty |
| 20:57.05 | subdue | I thought it was a mini a? |
| 20:57.23 | Tomoe | *shrug* I said I don't know =) |
| 20:57.29 | bmsleight | :) |
| 20:57.38 | bmsleight | subdue: I don't follow |
| 20:58.19 | subdue | nm. I dont have a 3x00, so I wouldnt know |
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| 20:59.29 | bmsleight | subdue: 3000 acts as a (with the right cables) a USB host. |
| 20:59.49 | bmsleight | right cables being mini-a-usb -USB-B |
| 21:00.03 | subdue | right |
| 21:00.05 | subdue | otg |
| 21:00.09 | subdue | like the 6k |
| 21:00.10 | bmsleight | yep |
| 21:00.40 | Tomoe | http://gagravarr.org/series-60/ |
| 21:03.33 | chrget | On a desktop system it would be /dev/ttyUSB0 or the like |
| 21:04.15 | chrget | Could be wrong though |
| 21:04.27 | Tomoe | yup |
| 21:04.58 | subdue | I'm convinced the way to go is via serial port now |
| 21:05.04 | subdue | less power consumption |
| 21:05.22 | subdue | humbug cables, but at least it wont kill my Z's power |
| 21:05.43 | chrget | subdue (hi btw) with what? |
| 21:06.03 | subdue | to connect to phones and gps devices |
| 21:06.09 | subdue | ditto |
| 21:06.29 | chrget | Hmmm, phones ... that would be way to inconvenient |
| 21:06.38 | subdue | aka cell phones |
| 21:06.56 | subdue | not regular house ones |
| 21:06.58 | chrget | And the RTM-8000 is really not very hungry at all. |
| 21:07.33 | subdue | no idea. |
| 21:07.56 | subdue | of course, I'd have to get one first |
| 21:08.06 | subdue | and I understand it matters in version |
| 21:08.45 | subdue | what's it run now? |
| 21:09.09 | Tomoe | I think I like OZ =) |
| 21:10.18 | chrget | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6542&st=73 |
| 21:11.04 | chrget | So much for the power consumption of the RTM-8000 :) |
| 21:11.45 | chrget | The damned backlight on Collie uses more power than that card :) |
| 21:12.25 | subdue | grrr...guylhem pops in, then pops out |
| 21:12.26 | chrget | Well, sidelight ... whatever, since technically it's not a backlight ;) |
| 21:12.47 | subdue | if he'd only stick around for longer or more often periods, his rom could get decent |
| 21:13.53 | subdue | unfortunately, without a light, I can't see squat |
| 21:14.57 | chrget | You _do_ of course realize that that's just illustrative and not meant as a real world application? |
| 21:15.49 | chrget | BTW, who's turn is it to slap around newbies for not using the search function? |
| 21:16.00 | chrget | whose, even |
| 21:16.07 | chrget | Man, am I dense today |
| 21:16.26 | Tomoe | no more than usual |
| 21:16.27 | Tomoe | =P |
| 21:16.35 | chrget | :P |
| 21:17.19 | subdue | it's a commentary about needing to add more adjustment values for the backlight |
| 21:17.36 | Tomoe | well have in mind that before oz only thing I've tried was SharpROM |
| 21:18.01 | chrget | You mean before you had a working system, and now you installed OZ |
| 21:18.10 | Tomoe | no |
| 21:18.12 | Tomoe | what I mean |
| 21:18.25 | Tomoe | I had a shitty working system |
| 21:18.28 | Tomoe | =P |
| 21:18.58 | chrget | Yeah, and now you have a shitty buggy system |
| 21:18.59 | bmsleight | Tomoe: Thanks for the link |
| 21:19.10 | Tomoe | bmsleight, lol no problem |
| 21:19.27 | Tomoe | it's the first one that pops out on 'nokia 6680 modem linux' query =P |
| 21:19.56 | bmsleight | baaa - must learn how to google |
| 21:20.03 | subdue | there's a patch for the power thing, just haven't bothered to figure it out yet |
| 21:20.17 | bmsleight | it dd not pop out on my varous searchs |
| 21:20.55 | chrget | "SL-5500 Updated to SL-5600 Sharp ROM 3.1"? |
| 21:21.03 | chrget | Do I really want to know? |
| 21:21.08 | chrget | Probably not. |
| 21:21.17 | Tomoe | bmsleight, heh =) |
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| 22:04.16 | bmsleight | night all |
| 22:12.55 | chrget | Sounds good to me |
| 22:18.09 | TaZ | hello :) |
| 22:18.20 | TaZ | Someone have a GPS on his Zaurus? |
| 22:18.47 | George | radtuna does. |
| 22:25.50 | Tomoe | yes no |
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| 23:14.01 | TaZ | Someone have install Familiar on his/her Zaurus? |
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| 23:27.07 | itsonlyme | hi |
| 23:29.35 | Tomoe | hy |
| 23:30.33 | itsonlyme | I think I'm going to break down and buy a new Z. I want either one of the two HD models, but not sure of the complete diff specs. I know the 3100 has more nonvolitile memory, but does it have anything else over the 3000? |
| 23:31.24 | Tomoe | that alone should be enough |
| 23:31.30 | Tomoe | other differences are |
| 23:31.36 | Tomoe | -english learning software |
| 23:31.38 | Tomoe | -color |
| 23:31.51 | Tomoe | but let's stick with rom |
| 23:32.09 | Tomoe | it has 128 as opposed to c3k's 16MB |
| 23:32.18 | Tomoe | which means it holds the whole os there |
| 23:32.28 | Tomoe | and the hard drive is used as storage space only |
| 23:32.33 | Tomoe | while with c3k |
| 23:32.54 | Tomoe | the flash just bootstraps into the hd-installed os |
| 23:33.07 | itsonlyme | Its at least 100bucks more. is is worth it? |
| 23:33.18 | Tomoe | and having the os on a mechanical device is not that wise =) |
| 23:33.25 | Tomoe | zaurus-wise |
| 23:33.36 | Tomoe | people were complaining a lot about c3k |
| 23:33.40 | Tomoe | because |
| 23:33.45 | Tomoe | it spins the drive down |
| 23:33.47 | Tomoe | to save power |
| 23:33.49 | Tomoe | which is ok |
| 23:33.54 | Tomoe | but whenever you do something |
| 23:33.59 | Tomoe | even a new tap |
| 23:34.02 | Tomoe | it will spin it up |
| 23:34.07 | Tomoe | and lag until it reads it |
| 23:34.24 | Tomoe | not a big deal but can get annoying |
| 23:34.26 | Tomoe | however |
| 23:34.32 | Tomoe | I myself own a c1k |
| 23:34.42 | Tomoe | and cannot offer you any true advice on your doubt |
| 23:34.56 | Tomoe | just couple bits of info that I have |
| 23:34.57 | Tomoe | sorry =) |
| 23:35.01 | itsonlyme | :) |
| 23:35.09 | itsonlyme | thanks... it helps... |
| 23:36.13 | Tomoe | anyways |
| 23:36.25 | Tomoe | why'd you go with a hd zaurus? |
| 23:36.29 | Tomoe | any particular reason? |
| 23:36.35 | itsonlyme | I really want a wireless PDA that works well as an MP3 player. The Hd would let me use a cf wireless card... how well to Z support SD wifi card? |
| 23:36.39 | Tomoe | or just 'OH WOW LOL 4 GIGZ MOM' |
| 23:36.50 | Tomoe | not too well |
| 23:37.08 | Tomoe | there are a couple of companies that put out their own sdio stacks |
| 23:37.14 | Tomoe | for their own products |
| 23:37.20 | Tomoe | other than that, you're pretty screwed |
| 23:37.45 | *** part/#zaurus Tomoe (i=touched@openwire.metawire.org) |
| 23:37.51 | *** join/#zaurus Tomoe (i=touched@openwire.metawire.org) |
| 23:37.53 | Tomoe | lol |
| 23:37.59 | Tomoe | wrong key combo |
| 23:38.08 | Tomoe | I'm still not used to dual monitor setup heh |
| 23:38.17 | itsonlyme | The one gig sd cards were the a little small, for a mp3 player replacement... |
| 23:38.19 | itsonlyme | :) |
| 23:38.35 | Tomoe | heh |
| 23:38.36 | Tomoe | well |
| 23:38.46 | Tomoe | I took the opposite approach |
| 23:38.54 | Tomoe | I bought a 20gigz sony mp3 player |
| 23:39.00 | Tomoe | which I use as storage for the Z |
| 23:39.01 | Tomoe | =) |
| 23:39.12 | itsonlyme | :) |
| 23:39.23 | itsonlyme | I hadn't really thought of that... |
| 23:39.40 | Tomoe | I store big files on it |
| 23:39.44 | Tomoe | like wikipedia |
| 23:39.57 | Tomoe | and couple of epwing dictionaries I have which are pretty large and not often used |
| 23:40.32 | itsonlyme | I wish I could talk to someone with a 3000 or 3100.... |
| 23:40.53 | itsonlyme | I wish I could actually see one, before I had one shipped here... |
| 23:41.21 | Tomoe | heh well yeah that sucks |
| 23:41.30 | Tomoe | I had the opportunity to see them |
| 23:41.43 | Tomoe | that's one of the reasons I got c1k |
| 23:41.54 | Tomoe | i just hate the ipod design of c3k |
| 23:41.56 | Tomoe | =P |
| 23:41.58 | Tomoe | anyways |
| 23:42.05 | Tomoe | couple of guys here have either |
| 23:42.08 | itsonlyme | :) |
| 23:42.12 | Tomoe | however most of them sleep at this time |
| 23:43.57 | itsonlyme | I think I can tell... :) |
| 23:44.22 | Tomoe | siht |
| 23:44.31 | Tomoe | I managed to fuck up OZ somehow |
| 23:44.40 | itsonlyme | ? |
| 23:45.05 | itsonlyme | I didn't think oZ ran on the 1000 3000 or 3100 yet |
| 23:46.00 | Tomoe | runs on c1k |
| 23:52.39 | itsonlyme | Awsome, the only tech review site I usually trust designtechnica actually reviewed the 3000.... That makes me feel better about it... now I just need to find the best deal. I think conics has it so far at 580 + 30 shipping |
| 23:53.07 | Tomoe | ok |
| 23:53.08 | Tomoe | =) |
| 23:53.26 | Tomoe | but if the lag gets to drive you nuts don't come here bitching |
| 23:53.27 | Tomoe | =P |
| 23:55.01 | ljp | runs on 3000 also |
| 23:55.07 | itsonlyme | I just have to figure out how to adjust the spin down time to wait a little longer... |
| 23:55.35 | itsonlyme | ljp would you suggest the 3100 over your 3000? |
| 23:55.47 | Tomoe | ...thereby getting lower hours |
| 23:55.47 | Tomoe | =P |
| 23:55.59 | Tomoe | anyways |
| 23:56.02 | Tomoe | go for 3k |
| 23:56.12 | Tomoe | in the leg |
| 23:56.15 | Tomoe | with the zaurus |
| 23:56.31 | ljp | 3100 has 128 mb flash |
| 23:58.06 | itsonlyme | If I can get the 2.5 hours my laptop gets out of a charge it will be ok |
| 23:59.14 | itsonlyme | Anyone know a better deal then conics? |
