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| 05:32.11 | Tomoe | How are you gentlemen |
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| 05:41.15 | zaurus | . |
| 05:41.44 | subdue | how goes things? |
| 05:43.34 | Tomoe | goes wells |
| 05:43.34 | Tomoe | and with you brotha |
| 06:06.40 | Tomoe | ah shucks cannot find libssl 0.9.7 |
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| 07:09.31 | Tomoe | LOL HY |
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| 08:33.33 | wallabee | helo |
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| 08:40.48 | chrget | Hi wallabee :) |
| 08:41.12 | wallabee | hi chrget, how's the life ? ^^ |
| 08:41.36 | chrget | Life's good, it's the embedded systems that suck |
| 08:41.57 | wallabee | chrget: hehe ^^ |
| 08:42.03 | chrget | :) |
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| 08:44.18 | wallabee | hopefully I was not born a mobile phone |
| 08:46.29 | wallabee | (ok it rather was "fortunately") |
| 08:48.07 | chrget | Hot and cold flashes all the time :) |
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| 08:51.31 | Tomoe | hy wallabee and chrget |
| 08:51.42 | chrget | Hi Tomoe |
| 09:01.08 | chrget | Now where do I find reasonably current flash contents of a CX70? |
| 09:04.38 | wallabee | cx70? |
| 09:04.40 | wallabee | hi tomoe |
| 09:07.41 | wallabee | ok that's the phone, not a zarus |
| 09:08.31 | wallabee | that's a sony lcd projector too |
| 09:13.06 | Tomoe | lol |
| 09:13.10 | Tomoe | hey wallabee |
| 09:13.35 | Tomoe | ever heard of this book: *BW-majecki* !majecki Dunn, C.J and Yamada, S - Teach Yourself Japanese Proofer PDF.zip ------------- 5.10 MB |
| 09:17.24 | chrget | Couldn't be much worse than what I have now ;) |
| 09:19.14 | chrget | One thing's for sure: If PC manufacturers built PCs the way embedded systems are built, we would have a lot of interesting new problems :) |
| 09:22.08 | chrget | On top of that, a phone that has more flash memory than a Z ... sheesh. |
| 09:22.39 | chrget | Kinda makes you wonder. |
| 09:26.52 | benplaut | about... |
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| 09:31.42 | benplaut | wha...? |
| 09:32.45 | CRT | quit "OK, it was a lame joke" |
| 09:33.23 | Tomoe | lol |
| 09:33.43 | benplaut | hmm |
| 09:33.50 | benplaut | i must be getting tired :) |
| 09:35.02 | chrget | I swear, one more flash cycle and I'm gonna scream |
| 09:38.32 | benplaut | g'night everyone |
| 09:41.57 | Tomoe | GO CHRGET GO |
| 09:42.11 | Tomoe | lol I remember the SE T610 flashing horrors |
| 09:46.39 | chrget | Well, looks like the phone is consistent now, albeit not running the latest release possible |
| 09:47.05 | chrget | Guess you have to thank Siemens for small favours |
| 09:54.49 | ViV | anyone tried motorola a780? is it able to run third-party non-java software? i found some notes, that it's able (and also has telnet and samba servers perinstalled) |
| 10:04.51 | wallabee | tomoe: never heard, is it good ? |
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| 10:08.07 | Tomoe | How are you gentlemen |
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| 10:10.45 | wallabee | we're fine, how is your book ? |
| 10:39.55 | licksjp | Hello>Tomoe |
| 10:40.07 | Tomoe | hy licksjp |
| 10:40.10 | Tomoe | wallabee, dunno |
| 10:40.14 | Tomoe | what was your comment on it? |
| 10:40.32 | licksjp | r u Japanese?>Tomoe |
| 10:40.44 | Tomoe | why do you ask? |
| 10:41.03 | licksjp | Ur name look like Japanese name |
| 10:41.35 | Tomoe | well, your nick looks like a Bantu name |
| 10:45.05 | licksjp | I'm Japanese >Tomoe |
| 10:45.29 | Tomoe | licksjp, no, I'm not Japanese |
| 10:45.37 | Tomoe | I'm Croatian |
| 10:46.35 | licksjp | oic |
| 10:53.26 | duper | ViV i also have a motorola e680. you may run some modified zaurus software on it |
| 10:53.27 | Tomoe | licksjp, however, I live in Japan atm |
| 10:54.00 | duper | AFAIK, somebody have ported mplayer and a game boyadvance emu to e680 successfully |
| 10:55.11 | ViV | where did you get yours e680? |
| 10:55.37 | duper | coz i live in china |
| 10:55.53 | ViV | heh |
| 10:56.05 | Tomoe | lol |
| 10:56.06 | Tomoe | =) |
| 10:56.32 | ViV | a780's are avalaible in germany soon, it's much more easy for me to get a phone from germany than from china |
| 10:56.43 | ViV | that's why i was asking about a780 |
| 10:57.38 | duper | i mean that the orginal ezx platform was developed by moto's chinese dev center in Peking |
| 10:58.15 | duper | anyway its a really cool step for moto goto linux |
| 10:58.32 | Tomoe | wtf |
| 10:58.41 | licksjp | what atm?>Tomoe |
| 10:58.47 | Tomoe | libqtopia.so.1 , shouldn't I have that already on c1k |
| 10:58.59 | Tomoe | licksjp, atm is an acronym for At The Moment |
| 10:59.23 | ViV | so, duper, you don't have any experience with a780, do you? |
| 10:59.59 | licksjp | where do u live in Japan?>Tomoe |
| 11:00.00 | duper | havent tried it, but the platform is the same i think |
| 11:00.13 | Tomoe | licksjp, Tokyo |
| 11:00.14 | Tomoe | and you? |
| 11:00.22 | licksjp | Nara City |
| 11:00.51 | ViV | schade |
| 11:01.24 | Tomoe | licksjp, which Zaurus do you have? |
| 11:01.42 | licksjp | I have SL-C750 and A300 |
| 11:01.52 | Tomoe | cool |
| 11:02.35 | licksjp | do u have it,too?>Tomoe |
| 11:02.55 | Tomoe | I have c1000 |
| 11:03.24 | licksjp | oic |
| 11:03.48 | Tomoe | =) |
| 11:03.56 | Tomoe | what do you use your Zs for? |
| 11:04.05 | licksjp | Do u know Japanese a little?>Tomoe |
| 11:04.22 | Tomoe | I've been studying it since I came here, for like 4 months |
| 11:04.24 | licksjp | I am deveropping soft ware |
| 11:04.25 | Tomoe | but I don't know it |
| 11:04.27 | Tomoe | =) |
| 11:04.31 | Tomoe | oh |
| 11:04.39 | Tomoe | like what? |
| 11:05.06 | licksjp | BMI,timer,and etc>Tomoe |
| 11:05.26 | Tomoe | cool |
| 11:05.32 | Tomoe | I don't have it for a long time |
| 11:05.39 | Tomoe | been using it mostly as a dictionary |
| 11:05.56 | Tomoe | but now I have some free time so I've started playing with it |
| 11:06.59 | licksjp | I think SL-C1000 are Japanese>Tomoe |
| 11:07.06 | Tomoe | yes |
| 11:07.07 | Tomoe | =) |
| 11:07.46 | licksjp | Do u read Japanese a little? |
| 11:08.08 | Tomoe | =) |
| 11:08.34 | licksjp | ^^; |
| 11:10.03 | Tomoe | licksjp, do you use zten/ztenv on your zaurus? |
| 11:10.26 | licksjp | what Zten? |
| 11:10.38 | licksjp | No I don't use |
| 11:10.52 | Tomoe | a dictionary application |
| 11:11.39 | licksjp | my zaurus has dictionary>Tomoe |
| 11:11.50 | licksjp | sorry |
| 11:12.19 | licksjp | my zaurus don't has dictionary |
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| 11:54.41 | wallabee | hey licks, I'm from osaka ^^/ |
| 11:55.02 | wallabee | tomoe: just asking your comment on it, since I've never heard about it |
| 11:55.29 | wayne | 'morning |
| 12:15.44 | chrget | Hi wayne |
| 12:16.51 | Tomoe | lol licksjp |
| 12:17.00 | Tomoe | wallabee, dunno, I just found it on some bookwarez channel |
| 12:17.04 | Tomoe | haven't downloaded it yet |
| 12:19.54 | wallabee | tomoe: ok well, I don't feel inspired by such a lame title |
| 12:20.01 | Tomoe | me neither |
| 12:20.02 | Tomoe | =) |
| 12:20.03 | wallabee | that was a very personal opinion of course |
| 12:20.04 | wallabee | ^ ^ |
| 12:20.11 | wallabee | good morning wayne |
| 12:20.49 | Tomoe | hy wayne |
| 12:21.22 | Tomoe | wallabee, can you recommend any journal-type apps? |
| 12:22.19 | wallabee | yes, try Typo ^^ |
| 12:23.11 | wallabee | not really in fact, what's actually required for a journal-type application ? |
| 12:23.36 | Tomoe | dunno |
| 12:23.45 | Tomoe | =) |
| 12:23.54 | wallabee | I tried some good-praised one on other platforms but never really felt these were that useful |
| 12:24.06 | Tomoe | hm |
| 12:24.39 | Tomoe | can you link me to that app |
| 12:24.41 | Tomoe | ? |
| 12:25.50 | wallabee | it was a product from Natara (they made nice softwares for PalmOS) -> http://www.natara.com/DayNotez/index.cfm |
| 12:26.11 | wallabee | i don't remember any other |
| 12:26.36 | Tomoe | ehm |
| 12:26.39 | Tomoe | and for zaurus? |
| 12:26.41 | Tomoe | =P |
| 12:27.19 | wallabee | don't know, still don't know what a good journal-type application should look like |
| 12:27.28 | wallabee | how |
| 12:28.32 | Tomoe | dunno |
| 12:28.32 | wallabee | what do you think of web-based things like Instiki ? |
| 12:30.20 | wallabee | otherwise, vim/cvs is what i'll probably use if I don't find better alternatives |
| 12:31.20 | wallabee | I wish I had less input troubles with the Qt browsers for the Zaurus, so that I could use things like Instiki |
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| 12:32.07 | wallabee | NetFront doesn't like accentuated french characters in UTF-8 while japanese ones are fine |
| 12:32.42 | wallabee | and Opera won't accept native japanese input from the zaurus, while french characters are fine (even in utf-8) |
| 12:33.51 | wayne | i can't beleive that it's 2005 and we still can't cope with insanely simple characters |
| 12:34.14 | Tomoe | heh |
| 12:34.22 | Tomoe | @ |
| 12:34.22 | Tomoe | browsers |
| 12:34.37 | Tomoe | wallabee, you play with ScummVM on zaurus? |
| 12:35.21 | wallabee | tomoe: or, an ical-based thing like KO/Pi, so that you can reuse your data on your desktop iCal/Sunbird ? KO/Pi is still quite slow and user-unfriendly though |
| 12:35.37 | wallabee | tomoe: no, never tried ScummVM |
| 12:35.37 | Tomoe | indeed |
| 12:35.46 | Tomoe | I'd just need some organized-notes app |
| 12:36.26 | wayne | Tomoe: try IANotes |
| 12:36.43 | Tomoe | hm |
| 12:36.48 | wayne | err, IQnotes |
| 12:36.50 | Tomoe | I downloaded QTjournal |
| 12:37.15 | wallabee | tomoe: I would primarily be concerned on how I could reuse my inputted datas too |
| 12:37.16 | Tomoe | wtf@20$ |
| 12:37.20 | Tomoe | lol |
| 12:37.25 | Tomoe | wallabee, yeah |
| 12:37.28 | Tomoe | anyways |
| 12:37.31 | Tomoe | about QTjournal |
| 12:37.45 | Tomoe | when I launch it it complains that it cannot find libqtopia.so.1 |
| 12:37.48 | Tomoe | wtf |
| 12:37.57 | wayne | Tomoe: openzaurus? |
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| 12:38.16 | Tomoe | didn't mention openzaurus >.> |
| 12:38.23 | wallabee | wayne: hey, that's a commercial product |
| 12:38.33 | wayne | Tomoe: no but you, you use what? openzaurus? pdaxrom? sharp? |
| 12:38.40 | Tomoe | sharp |
| 12:38.44 | wayne | ok |
| 12:39.31 | wayne | Tomoe: on QTJournal's website, the first line explains why you have this error, and what you have to do to fix it. |
| 12:39.47 | Tomoe | lol |
| 12:39.49 | Tomoe | sorry -_- |
| 12:39.54 | wallabee | ^ ^ |
| 12:40.22 | wayne | wallabee: iqnotes? right, commercial |
| 12:40.43 | Tomoe | <Tomoe> wtf@20$ |
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| 12:41.05 | wayne | so? You asked for apps, i'm showing you apps |
| 12:41.16 | wayne | Didn't know you required something free |
| 12:41.36 | Tomoe | lol |
| 12:42.11 | Tomoe | let's just be in the linux spirit |
| 12:42.11 | Tomoe | =P |
| 12:42.16 | wallabee | wayne: well, i'm not unwilling to pay for software I find useful |
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| 12:45.05 | wallabee | ... but I don't know if this one is worth it's $20 price tag |
| 12:45.30 | wallabee | do you use it ? |
| 12:45.39 | wayne | not really no |
| 12:47.49 | wallabee | besides, we all know we must not save our valuables data in closed-source file formats, right ? ^^ |
| 12:48.43 | wayne | yeah that's a good thinking indeed |
| 12:48.57 | wayne | but if it does the job, sometimes it might still be worth it |
| 12:49.02 | wayne | on another note |
| 12:49.10 | wayne | I with Ko/pi was faster. |
| 12:49.10 | Tomoe | qtjournal seems cool |
| 12:49.13 | wayne | with = wish |
| 12:49.22 | Tomoe | but I need to find my stylus |
| 12:49.23 | Tomoe | siht |
| 12:54.15 | Tomoe | ah jeez |
| 12:54.21 | Tomoe | I dropped it outside today |
| 12:54.26 | Tomoe | when I was taking my order over |
| 12:54.46 | Tomoe | luckily nobody took it/dropped it in a trash can |
| 12:54.55 | wallabee | that's unfortunate |
| 12:55.36 | wallabee | maybe it's time for you to get yourself a replacement from pentopia ? ^^ |
| 12:55.38 | Tomoe | no, that's fortunate |
| 12:55.44 | Tomoe | since I was able to find it |
| 12:55.45 | Tomoe | =P |
| 12:56.06 | Tomoe | I have a LED flashlight keychain so it wasn't a problem to find it |
| 12:56.09 | Tomoe | RAKIII |
| 12:56.10 | Tomoe | <3 |
| 12:56.13 | Tomoe | ^^v |
| 12:56.20 | wallabee | hehe |
| 12:56.38 | Tomoe | tommorow I'm probably going to akihabara |
| 12:56.43 | Tomoe | there's one zaurus-shop there |
| 12:56.58 | wallabee | take pictures |
| 12:56.59 | Tomoe | I'll get screen protector and usb host adapter |
| 12:57.09 | Tomoe | and maybe a decent stylus |
| 12:57.23 | wallabee | i suggest you go for miyavix and pentopia |
| 12:58.17 | Tomoe | this one definitely sucks |
| 12:58.23 | Tomoe | not because of the shape or anything |
| 12:58.35 | Tomoe | but because I actually scratched the screen with it twice |
| 12:58.44 | Tomoe | since the plastic has a really lousy finish |
| 12:59.07 | wallabee | you're speaking of the miyavix stylus ? |
| 12:59.48 | Tomoe | the one that comes with z by default -_- |
| 13:00.00 | wallabee | oh, never used it |
| 13:04.17 | Tomoe | I wish I could say the same |
| 13:09.10 | Tomoe | wallabee, any other app recommendations except those on your 6k page? |
| 13:09.28 | Tomoe | erm |
| 13:09.28 | Tomoe | wtf |
| 13:09.32 | Tomoe | it's not your page right |
| 13:09.33 | Tomoe | sorry |
| 13:09.45 | wallabee | ^ ^ |
| 13:10.20 | wallabee | apache/mod_php/mysql ? |
| 13:10.21 | Tomoe | I just ate a bun so I'm hyper |
| 13:10.21 | Tomoe | =P |
| 13:10.29 | Tomoe | have it |
| 13:10.29 | Tomoe | =P |
| 13:10.30 | wallabee | ruby/rubyonrails ? |
| 13:10.41 | wallabee | bunkoviewer |
| 13:10.45 | Tomoe | don't do ruby |
| 13:10.50 | Tomoe | have it |
| 13:11.25 | wallabee | qpe-embeddedkonsole-ja 1.6.0 |
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| 13:11.47 | Tomoe | have it |
| 13:11.48 | Tomoe | =) |
| 13:11.52 | wallabee | ^ ^ |
| 13:11.55 | Tomoe | keep em coming =P |
| 13:12.13 | wallabee | er.. mobile map navi ^^ |
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| 13:12.55 | wallabee | there's a translation app too that comes with the C860, C3000 and C3100 but not the C1000 |
| 13:12.56 | Tomoe | lol |
| 13:12.58 | wallabee | never tried it |
| 13:13.04 | Tomoe | translation? |
| 13:13.11 | wallabee | http://shop.kutikomi.ne.jp/details.asp?ccd=5207&shcd=510068&sycd=_L0ZHONK |
| 13:13.13 | Tomoe | oh |
| 13:13.16 | Tomoe | I think I have it |
| 13:13.19 | Tomoe | sljisho? |
| 13:13.30 | wallabee | i think that's something else |
| 13:13.37 | wallabee | it's database takes more than 30MB |
| 13:13.41 | wallabee | (thus didn't tried) |
| 13:14.31 | wallabee | i'd like to try a DocBook/XSL setup now, or a LaTeX one |
| 13:14.47 | wallabee | and try this PocketWorkstation thing at last, but don't have time |
| 13:16.08 | wallabee | other than that... |
| 13:16.47 | wallabee | knquiz, since it really rocks with the datafiles ^^ |
| 13:17.06 | wallabee | mutt ? |
| 13:17.10 | Tomoe | hehe |
| 13:17.11 | Tomoe | =) |
| 13:17.17 | Tomoe | knquiz rox indeed |
| 13:20.22 | wallabee | dig, mtr, gtar, findutils, smbmount... |
| 13:20.38 | wallabee | well, i guess you've already seen all of these stuff now |
| 13:20.47 | Tomoe | yeah |
| 13:20.47 | Tomoe | =) |
| 13:20.57 | Tomoe | xcept smbmount but I don't have much use for it OTOH |
| 13:22.06 | wallabee | I used it to feed the music player (2), for audio check experiments |
| 13:49.16 | Tomoe | =) |
| 13:49.19 | Tomoe | ok |
| 13:49.28 | Tomoe | downloaded tetsu's v18 kernel gonna play with that too |
| 13:49.35 | Tomoe | anyways time for me to go off gents |
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| 16:31.48 | Laibsch | Trying to connect my Z SL-5500 G to my Debian machine for the first time. Network seems to be up on both machines, I can ping 192.168.129.x where x stands for the IP at the local side. I cannot ping the other machine. lsusb shows the Z connected. What is the problem here? |
| 16:33.02 | wayne | Laibsch: which is able to ping which? |
| 16:33.31 | Laibsch | The desktop can ping the desktop interface and the Z can ping the Z interface. |
| 16:33.55 | Laibsch | no ping across the cable. |
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| 16:43.01 | Laibsch | wayne: What is different from the tutorials on the web is that my device is eth1 (eth0 is the network card) and not usb0 on my Desktop. I use module usbnet, not usbdnet. |
| 16:45.47 | wayne | i know i've read somewhere that there was a difference between the two, but i can't remember what it was |
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| 17:21.24 | raduga | good morning, Lorn |
| 17:21.32 | raduga | except that its probably not morning, where you are. |
| 17:21.48 | raduga | good evening? |
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| 21:23.23 | TheMaskedUnit_ | g'afternoon all |
| 21:25.51 | TheMaskedUnit_ | Zaurus+Opera+Slashdot saved the day in the DMV line yesterday. :) |
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| 21:39.42 | TheMaskedUnit_ | does anyone else find it impossible to enter in a password at gmail.google.com in opera? |
| 21:40.43 | TheMaskedUnit_ | You are currently using 5 MB (0%) of your 2439 MB. |
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| 22:52.58 | wallabee | Hello World!\n |
| 22:53.04 | chrget | Sheesh, the nerve of some people ... |
| 22:53.10 | chrget | Hi wallabee :) |
| 22:53.28 | wallabee | hi chrget ^.^ |
| 22:54.04 | wallabee | problem with your nerves ? |
| 22:54.32 | chrget | Not really ... just that someone tries to hack into my system |
| 22:55.00 | wallabee | oh, that's always annoying |
| 22:55.04 | chrget | Indeed |
| 22:55.39 | chrget | Makes the logs grow to annoying sizes :) |
| 22:55.51 | wallabee | ^ ^ |
| 22:57.00 | TheMaskedUnit_ | my log usually grows just once a day |
| 22:58.53 | chrget | Someone should tell that bastard in Hungary that this isn't funny |
| 23:01.17 | chrget | Anyone know an exploit for SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 Debian-8.sarge.4 ? |
| 23:01.26 | chrget | Muahahaha |
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| 23:08.55 | ljp | *sigh* |
| 23:11.20 | George | heya ljp! |
| 23:15.06 | ljp | hi |
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| 23:17.33 | raduga | chrget: nope. but I know a good exploit for pdaXrom rc11 |
| 23:19.21 | George | ljp: PINBALL |
| 23:24.31 | raduga | george: are you a pinball wizard? |
| 23:25.20 | George | no |
| 23:26.01 | George | I'm a pinball GOD |
| 23:26.03 | George | moohahahaha. |
| 23:35.18 | ljp | excpet he cant grasp gravity :) |
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