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| 05:17.12 | mannex | I can't seem to find the terminal in my Zaurus, its an SL-C860 which is Linux based... = / |
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| 13:18.38 | Helmchen | hi.. ive got a question: when i buy a slc 860, can i put a harddisc into it like the slc 3000 has? and can i use it as usb-storage an my pc, like the slc 3000? |
| 13:18.55 | Helmchen | an=on |
| 13:34.40 | pgas | yes and no |
| 13:34.52 | pgas | yes you can but the drive won't be internal |
| 13:35.40 | pgas | hence it will take the Cf slot of the 860 while in the 3000 you have a cf slot + an internal microdrive |
| 13:36.49 | Helmchen | ok thanks, and what about this usb-storage mode? ive heard not all zauri have this mode that you can access it from your pc as a mass-storage device |
| 13:37.17 | pgas | it has the 860 was the first to have this, it has since be back-ported to other models |
| 13:38.45 | Helmchen | so when i put a cf-drive in a 860 ive got the same as 3000 but with busy cf-port, right? |
| 13:40.46 | pgas | minus the usb host, the faster cpu |
| 13:41.14 | pgas | and the cf-slot is important in case you want a wifi/lan adaptor etc... |
| 13:41.50 | Helmchen | hm.. ok. so i think i have to look for a slc 3000 :/ |
| 13:42.24 | Helmchen | but they a rare and i cant effort a new one :/ |
| 13:43.20 | pgas | I don't know what you intend to do but with a 860 + a 1G sd you have quite a lot of space |
| 13:44.52 | pgas | or a c1000 + a 1G sd card |
| 13:49.32 | Helmchen | ok thats right, do you know what 1G sd costs compared to 4G cf-microdrive? |
| 13:49.58 | Helmchen | does the c1000 has usb-host? |
| 13:50.27 | pgas | the C1000 is the same as c3000 minus the hd so yes it has |
| 13:51.01 | pgas | 1G sd is about USD 70-100 i think, I don't know about the micro hd |
| 14:09.21 | Helmchen | im still a little confused about this usb-host. does it mean that the zaurus appears to other devices as mass-storage? is this what usb-host means? |
| 14:10.25 | koyote | NO |
| 14:10.30 | koyote | oops |
| 14:10.45 | koyote | it means the the zaqurus can have usb devices plug into it |
| 14:11.01 | koyote | like cameras and keyboard and mice and disk drives and cdroms |
| 14:11.43 | koyote | usb is a master/slave protocol, unlike rs232 |
| 14:12.52 | Helmchen | ok, thanks |
| 14:22.42 | pgas | note that with or without the usb-host, you can configure the Z so that it is appears as a usb-mass storage device |
| 14:23.40 | Helmchen | but i cant connect a camera to it and copy my picutures to zaurus without usb-host, right? |
| 14:24.04 | koyote | right |
| 14:24.26 | koyote | host (master) is a special thing to have on a pda because of that |
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| 16:13.48 | subdue | uh oh |
| 16:13.53 | subdue | hluc took down his page |
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| 18:34.31 | subdue | just tried musicplayer-C3000_2.0.0_arm.ipk on my 6k. the c3000 folks have nicer toys |
| 18:54.22 | raduga | s/nicer/newer/ |
| 18:56.56 | subdue | true |
| 18:57.25 | subdue | finally figured out why barrage wouldnt run on my 6k. silly me. landscape only mode |
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| 21:46.22 | Qjimbo | Hey guys |
| 21:47.45 | Qjimbo | I'm having a wierd problem... |
| 21:52.00 | koyote | add a u! |
| 21:52.28 | Qjimbo | to what sorry? |
| 21:58.31 | Qjimbo | anyhoo no matter how many times I press the hard reset button, it's not wiping the internal storage and installed apps. I've got OZ on here if that makes any difference |
| 21:58.47 | Qjimbo | this is on my 5500 |
| 22:00.03 | koyote | i'm not sure about the 5500 |
| 22:00.12 | koyote | but a hard reset on my 6000 is just a reboot |
| 22:00.26 | koyote | it's not a reformatting or wiping of the filesystem |
| 22:00.27 | Qjimbo | yeah it's acting like that on mine which is very strange |
| 22:00.40 | koyote | well, to me, that makes sense. |
| 22:01.07 | koyote | to start from absolute new in box scratch you'd want to use the maint. menu and do all that. |
| 22:01.18 | Qjimbo | how do I get to the maint menu? |
| 22:01.25 | koyote | i am not sure on a 5500 |
| 22:01.35 | koyote | probably the urls in the topic have FAQs |
| 22:01.38 | Qjimbo | yeah I read somewhere it was hold OK for the 5600 |
| 22:01.44 | Qjimbo | but that doesn't work |
| 22:01.49 | koyote | or perhaps there is zaurususergroup.org/com? |
| 22:01.54 | koyote | yes |
| 22:01.58 | koyote | the 500 is not the 5600 |
| 22:02.02 | koyote | 5500, even |
| 22:02.23 | koyote | and the procedure for the 5600, IIRC |
| 22:02.31 | koyote | is actually to remove the battery and ac power |
| 22:02.43 | koyote | then replace the battery and hold ok while turning it on |
| 22:02.51 | koyote | but i may be leaving out a step |
| 22:03.01 | koyote | merely holding down the ok buttons isn't going to do it :) |
| 22:03.15 | Qjimbo | aha |
| 22:03.16 | Qjimbo | got it |
| 22:03.18 | Qjimbo | D+P |
| 22:18.03 | subdue | I was told you have to update ipk |
| 22:18.08 | subdue | or it wont wipe out anything |
| 22:18.31 | subdue | .org |
| 22:19.02 | subdue | nm. I was thinking your sd card |
| 22:22.04 | Qjimbo | heh ah well I think I'm gonna go back to the default sharp rom anyway |
| 22:22.13 | Qjimbo | OZ just doesn't quite jell with me |
| 22:22.31 | subdue | ope or gpe? |
| 22:22.36 | Qjimbo | opie |
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| 22:22.44 | Qjimbo | though I tried gpe earlier |
| 22:22.51 | subdue | if you want to use opie, you need to ignore the gui |
| 22:23.00 | Qjimbo | oh? |
| 22:23.06 | subdue | hang on |
| 22:23.28 | subdue | this is as far as I got http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Opie_3.5.3_on_the_5500 |
| 22:24.01 | subdue | the right arrow bug they supposedly fixed, but I've never tested it yet |
| 22:25.04 | subdue | dunno if you want to take a crack at it or not |
| 22:25.14 | Qjimbo | hmm looks thorough |
| 22:25.32 | Qjimbo | might give it a go when I feel like bothering, honestly I hate the commandline |
| 22:26.15 | Qjimbo | oh yeah another thing I noticed on Opie, without doing any of that stuff though, was that when I went to install a package it said I only had ~2MB left |
| 22:26.21 | Qjimbo | even though I'd installed nothing @_@ |
| 22:27.07 | subdue | do you have a cf or sd card? |
| 22:28.19 | Qjimbo | yeah but only a 128MB |
| 22:28.21 | Qjimbo | CF |
| 22:28.26 | subdue | ok |
| 22:29.18 | Qjimbo | I'd probably go for Cacko if I had a decent SD card |
| 22:29.55 | koyote | those are so cheap now, though.... |
| 22:30.08 | koyote | $35 for 512mb or therabouts |
| 22:30.18 | Qjimbo | yeah but I'm poor :p |
| 22:30.39 | Qjimbo | though I've also been pondering over hooking up a Harddisc to the Z, would probably tie up the CF slot which means no Modem/Wifi though |
| 22:30.56 | koyote | usb. |
| 22:31.00 | koyote | wait, you have a 5500 |
| 22:31.03 | Qjimbo | :p |
| 22:31.04 | koyote | no usb host. |
| 22:31.08 | Qjimbo | yeah |
| 22:31.22 | Qjimbo | unless I got a USB host CF card and wrote drivers XD |
| 22:31.22 | subdue | get an sd |
| 22:31.26 | Qjimbo | which is NOT going to happen :p |
| 22:31.36 | koyote | i do use a cf microdrive |
| 22:31.53 | Qjimbo | it's just harddrives are so cheap at the moment |
| 22:31.54 | subdue | I need a decent case for my 1.8" hitachi |
| 22:32.02 | subdue | last one was screwy |
| 22:32.29 | koyote | i could use a decent pocket usb drive that had battery power |
| 22:32.41 | koyote | something in the neighborhood of 20-40gb |
| 22:33.27 | Qjimbo | yeah, powering it would be a pain |
| 22:33.46 | Qjimbo | wonder how the ipod managed it |
| 22:35.01 | koyote | it's not hard. |
| 22:35.09 | koyote | they don't take that much power on their own |
| 22:35.25 | Qjimbo | oh right |
| 22:36.21 | koyote | look at the archos stuff, too |
| 22:36.35 | subdue | thought about the archos |
| 22:36.40 | subdue | so many models |
| 22:36.45 | koyote | yeah, i have, too |
| 22:36.56 | koyote | pdaxrom boots on the latest one, apparently |
| 22:37.05 | koyote | but the resolution isn't great. |
| 22:37.23 | Qjimbo | ooo those are shiny |
| 22:37.33 | koyote | within a year or so the 8gb microdrives should be cheap enough to upgrade a 3100. |
| 22:38.30 | subdue | I'm happy with my 6k except for 1) want more space 2) battery |
| 22:38.44 | subdue | might end up just buying another battery |
| 22:39.00 | koyote | if i had the sled, i'd not bother with a 3x00 |
| 22:39.05 | koyote | but i can't find the sled |
| 22:39.25 | subdue | http://www.sharpplace.com/product.asp?sku=2576858 |
| 22:39.26 | koyote | like, for real find, not "backordered for the lat 6 months" find |
| 22:39.40 | subdue | ed hojnacki/desk head of the sl division |
| 22:39.41 | subdue | 630-378-3331 |
| 22:39.45 | subdue | complain to him |
| 22:39.51 | subdue | he's the guy that can make it appear |
| 22:40.47 | koyote | but will he? |
| 22:40.54 | subdue | I'm supposed to call him |
| 22:41.00 | koyote | has he made it appear for anyone yet? |
| 22:41.05 | subdue | and tell him that sharpplace has a backorder of 30 sleds |
| 22:41.12 | subdue | just haven't called him yet |
| 22:41.54 | koyote | i would still have to find a way to make the keyboard thing work for me, though |
| 22:42.27 | subdue | means waiting for guylhem then |
| 22:45.53 | koyote | why? |
| 22:46.40 | koyote | my usb keyboard works ok in pdaxrom, i just want one i can integrate into a clamshell style case :) |
| 22:46.46 | subdue | he was doing a fix |
| 22:46.48 | subdue | oh, ok |
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| 23:02.37 | koyote | fixes are good, since it's never quite perfect |
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| 23:30.47 | koyote | hrm |
| 23:31.06 | koyote | the ls120 thing is kinda nice in a way |
| 23:31.27 | koyote | if it was modernized- if you could put 512mb or so on it, then it'd really be nice |
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