| 00:17.58 | *** join/#zaurus hufnus (~slonsiki@mc71036d0.tmodns.net) |
| 02:12.47 | *** join/#zaurus ibot (ibot@apt.bot.TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 02:12.47 | *** topic/#zaurus is Zaurus Discussion - http://www.zaurus.com/ - http://myzaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus help in #openzaurus (george-) || /msg ibot orkut - then join the orkut zaurus group |
| 02:12.47 | *** mode/#zaurus [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 02:30.14 | *** join/#zaurus linuxwhore (~johnh@70-56-171-9.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 02:47.56 | *** join/#zaurus sigmaX (~ask@r200-125-26-143-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 03:33.30 | *** join/#zaurus cyn (~cyn@cpe-66-61-101-26.midsouth.res.rr.com) |
| 03:52.20 | *** join/#zaurus sigmaII (~ask@r200-125-26-143-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 03:53.03 | allt | its quiet tonight |
| 03:59.19 | ljp | not here in the office |
| 03:59.29 | ljp | dang renovations |
| 04:26.18 | *** join/#zaurus minipanda (~zhanght@221.122.51.131) |
| 05:03.43 | koyote | oi |
| 05:04.46 | allt | hai koyote |
| 05:05.26 | koyote | how goes? |
| 05:05.35 | allt | pretty good |
| 05:05.43 | allt | and u? |
| 05:05.54 | koyote | decent |
| 05:06.04 | allt | good to hear |
| 05:08.37 | kakos | Anyone here have experience with OpenZaurus? |
| 05:08.57 | koyote | i don't use it, sorry |
| 05:27.32 | *** join/#zaurus sigmaX (~ask@r200-125-20-32-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 06:04.58 | kendrick | VNC, biotches! |
| 06:06.28 | koyote | native x, hoser |
| 06:06.56 | koyote | damn, the openbsd module isn't working |
| 07:08.10 | kendrick | damnit |
| 07:08.24 | kendrick | i just encoded a DVD to play on my zaurus, and somehow grabbed the spanish audio track :) |
| 07:08.37 | *** join/#zaurus sigmaII (~ask@r200-125-20-32-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 07:10.09 | ljp | ha! |
| 07:10.45 | kendrick | oh well :) |
| 07:10.47 | kendrick | it's Office Space |
| 07:10.54 | kendrick | I've seen it a 100 times, so I'll know what's going on :) |
| 07:21.13 | *** join/#zaurus mithro (~tim@ppp195-250.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net) |
| 08:49.31 | *** part/#zaurus minipanda (~zhanght@221.122.51.131) |
| 08:53.09 | kendrick | CRAP |
| 08:53.10 | kendrick | goddamnit |
| 08:53.16 | kendrick | lost all my data >:^( |
| 10:14.59 | *** join/#zaurus licksjp (~hana@cap005-170.kcn.ne.jp) |
| 10:15.57 | licksjp | Hi |
| 10:29.35 | *** join/#zaurus Pendalar (Pendalar@h18.114.140.67.ip.alltel.net) |
| 10:30.01 | *** join/#zaurus congrio (~congrio@217.217.19.109) |
| 12:05.53 | *** join/#zaurus DrWily (~drwily@user-0ce2me2.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 12:51.01 | *** join/#zaurus ViV (~viv@ppp13-132.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:51.13 | *** join/#zaurus SuN (unices@195-241-12-117-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:51.26 | *** join/#zaurus mithro (~tim@ppp195-250.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net) |
| 12:51.30 | *** join/#zaurus Pendalar (Pendalar@h18.114.140.67.ip.alltel.net) |
| 12:52.41 | *** join/#zaurus djk (~djk@h167-156-253.63.chubb.com) |
| 12:58.13 | *** join/#zaurus ljp (~lpotter@203.94.178.46) |
| 13:30.01 | *** join/#zaurus Mask_cucumber (~Mask_cucu@dsl-142-26.aei.ca) |
| 13:35.44 | *** join/#zaurus pgas (~pgas@ip-254-223-152.first.gr) |
| 13:43.01 | *** join/#zaurus Anst (~anst@198.36.32.17) |
| 14:50.05 | *** join/#zaurus sigmaX (~ask@mail.ica.com.uy) |
| 15:03.13 | *** join/#zaurus shadowing (~shadowing@clearwater.ETE.INRS.CA) |
| 15:44.46 | shadowing | Hi, i'm new with my sl-5500 and i have a question about the wifi. I bought a linksys WCF12, and i'd like to know if the driver is include in the OS ? cause the information is not clear on the internet ? |
| 15:44.57 | shadowing | If not where can i found the driver ? |
| 15:46.44 | wayne | shadowing: first, which ROM do you run in your zaurus? |
| 15:47.35 | shadowing | ROM ? can you precise the meaning... |
| 15:47.55 | shadowing | how can i know that ? |
| 15:48.43 | wayne | even though they're all linuxes, there's actually quite a few "OS" that can run inside zaurus units. There's the original one made by Sharp and there's one made by a group of developpers called OpenZaurus |
| 15:49.21 | shadowing | the original one ! |
| 15:49.32 | shadowing | is the OpenZaurus better ? |
| 15:50.09 | wayne | well, it's different |
| 15:50.31 | wayne | lots of efforts are being put into this so it wuld be better, but it changes a lot of things and in some cases, causes problems. my sl-5600 for instance can't run it |
| 15:51.51 | shadowing | ok, so with the original OS, the led on the CF is on, but the wifi does seems to work |
| 15:52.17 | shadowing | is the led on mean that the card is correctly recognize ? |
| 15:52.24 | shadowing | and working ? |
| 15:53.02 | wayne | shadowing: the original sharp rom does not support your card |
| 15:53.02 | wayne | read tihs page: http://aurach.ewu.edu/ield/ield_course/lectures/ield_appB/files/LaptopToZ.html |
| 15:53.04 | wayne | seacrch for "WCF12" in that page, there's instructions onto how to fix it |
| 15:53.28 | shadowing | ok thanks |
| 15:53.28 | wayne | might want to go directly there: http://www.uk-dave.com/tutorials/zaurus/linksys-wlan.shtml |
| 15:54.36 | shadowing | ok seems simple |
| 15:54.57 | wayne | yes |
| 15:55.02 | wayne | the driver is there actually |
| 15:55.16 | shadowing | wayne, is there a su in the terminal ? |
| 15:55.18 | wayne | it's just that the wlan program doesn't know how to handle it |
| 15:55.32 | shadowing | yup !!! |
| 15:55.46 | wayne | i don't know about "su", i never required it for anything |
| 15:56.00 | shadowing | so is not required for the zaurus |
| 15:56.13 | shadowing | if you want to modify some system file |
| 15:56.32 | wayne | yeah well that's the sharp rom.. i think you're mostly root on this |
| 15:56.41 | wayne | while on openzaurus, you'Re running more userland |
| 15:56.46 | wayne | if i recall correctly. |
| 15:56.53 | shadowing | ok |
| 15:57.15 | shadowing | can you give me some more feedback on openzaurus ? |
| 15:57.46 | shadowing | in what way is different ? |
| 15:58.06 | wayne | you're actually running a linux version that is closer to the "typical" linux distribution |
| 15:58.11 | wayne | OpenZaurus comes in two flavors, GPE and OPIE |
| 15:58.22 | wayne | GPE is an actual X server where you run X apps for real |
| 15:58.42 | shadowing | ok, so is it more friendly user |
| 15:58.43 | wayne | it's also really slow because of the overhead required by all this, but you have the pwoer of running a seriously close to real life Linux/X system |
| 15:58.55 | wayne | no it's not, it's more of a linux desktop |
| 15:59.03 | shadowing | hum sounds cool |
| 15:59.06 | wayne | OpenZaurus OPIE is more userfriendly |
| 15:59.25 | wayne | because it's based on QT, it's an graphical user interface "built for a PDFA" |
| 15:59.33 | wayne | more lightweight and all |
| 16:00.05 | shadowing | so for a linux user as me do you recommand to use GPE |
| 16:01.03 | *** join/#zaurus zip|6kL (~zip|@c-67-188-70-188.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:01.03 | *** join/#zaurus kye (kye@pin9.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 16:01.03 | *** join/#zaurus drewp (~drewp@a.mx.bigasterisk.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 16:01.19 | wayne | try your sharp rom for a while. If you feel your pda looked more like your desktop, then yes. Otherwise, OPIE might be better for you |
| 16:01.40 | wayne | i'lll bbl |
| 16:01.50 | shadowing | ok thanks wayne |
| 16:04.07 | zip|6kL | http://www.buy.com/retail/specialty_store_5.asp?loc=13866&adid=17070&dcaid=17070 <-- Lexar CF256-231 256MB 4X CompactFlash Price After Rebate(s): $7.95 |
| 16:04.17 | zip|6kL | two days only |
| 16:43.34 | *** join/#zaurus sashz (~sash@212.192.116.71) |
| 17:09.55 | *** join/#zaurus raduga (coelura@deepthought.armory.com) |
| 17:10.01 | raduga | good morning, dear zaurers |
| 17:10.13 | shadowing | heyhey |
| 17:10.51 | *** join/#zaurus lunarsoul (~Sol@63.192.29.251) |
| 17:12.37 | sashz | good night |
| 17:22.23 | licksjp | hello>raduga |
| 18:01.50 | *** join/#zaurus hufnus (~slonsiki@mc78936d0.tmodns.net) |
| 18:13.34 | *** join/#zaurus ibot (ibot@apt.bot.TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 18:13.35 | *** topic/#zaurus is Zaurus Discussion - http://www.zaurus.com/ - http://myzaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus help in #openzaurus (george-) || /msg ibot orkut - then join the orkut zaurus group |
| 18:13.35 | *** mode/#zaurus [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 18:13.38 | *** join/#zaurus kendwork (nbs@bolt.sonic.net) |
| 18:16.09 | kendwork | re |
| 18:29.31 | kendwork | btw, i can now click/type via vnc |
| 18:29.42 | kendwork | i had to revert to a 14mo old backup of my data, though :^( |
| 18:29.54 | kendwork | when i went to reboot after installing a new VNC app, my z appeared to crash |
| 18:30.12 | kendwork | (LCD turned all stripy, and i dind't respond to input... even switching the battery door switch) |
| 18:30.25 | kendwork | (so i pulled the batt for 2 sec and rebooted, and *poof*, my data was gone :^( ) |
| 18:30.42 | kendwork | fortunately, most of my apps were installed on SD, but i'm sure i lost soem PIM data. *sigh* |
| 18:30.53 | kendwork | at least with vnc control, i can enter it a lot quicker. |
| 18:31.10 | kendwork | though i'd still prefer some way of integrating KDE's PIM with the stock Sharp ROM, but I'm guessing that'll NEVER happen >:^( |
| 18:41.57 | wayne | that reminds me I gotta setup my daily PIM backup stuff |
| 18:42.18 | wayne | kendwork: on what unit? Cause i'm using KDE pic on sharprom. |
| 18:42.20 | wayne | pim |
| 18:45.56 | kendwork | SL-5500 |
| 18:46.31 | wayne | cool |
| 18:46.36 | wayne | then you can use KDE pim |
| 18:46.40 | kendwork | url? :) |
| 18:46.40 | wayne | http://www.pi-sync.net/ |
| 18:46.45 | koyote | it's good |
| 18:46.51 | koyote | but slower than using emacs ;) |
| 18:46.55 | kendwork | i'll check it out tonight |
| 18:47.06 | wayne | there's Korganiser, Kaddress and Kopiemail |
| 18:47.11 | wayne | it's ssssllllooooooowwwwwwwwwwww |
| 18:47.28 | wayne | if you have the ram, just leave them running |
| 18:47.35 | wayne | there's an option you can set to prevent them from closing |
| 18:47.44 | wayne | i do that and it's fine |
| 18:47.52 | wayne | when i really need the ram, i close one of them |
| 18:48.13 | wayne | kopie mail is okay speedwise, it's KO/KA that are slow to startup |
| 18:48.30 | wayne | koyote: i'm curious, could you show me what it's like? |
| 18:50.07 | kendwork | hrm, well, sharp's addressbook is fine |
| 18:50.12 | kendwork | i just want to be able to sync it with my desktop :( |
| 18:50.19 | koyote | what what is like? |
| 18:51.16 | wayne | koyote: using emacs to ahve your PIM stuff. |
| 18:51.37 | wayne | koyote: i'm not sure but i think qtopia desktop can do that? |
| 18:51.51 | wayne | koyote: have you tried squirrel?& |
| 18:51.58 | koyote | hrm. well, half of it is in calendar. (M-x calendar) (? for info) |
| 18:52.04 | wayne | wait, the middle line was meant for kendworks |
| 18:52.05 | koyote | yeah, squirrel is what we use |
| 18:52.08 | wayne | i just pressed K and tab :) |
| 18:52.16 | koyote | hhehehe |
| 18:52.19 | koyote | we are used to that |
| 18:52.29 | koyote | i keep a todo file in plaintext |
| 18:52.34 | wayne | koyote: i've never seen that app, where can i take a look? |
| 18:52.46 | koyote | and use bbdb (it's on emacswiki.org) f |
| 18:52.56 | koyote | it's the same in any emacs |
| 18:53.01 | wayne | koyote: i normally have a perl script for irssi that takes care of that (several nick matches) but somehow perl broke so i'm recompiling some stuff |
| 18:53.12 | wayne | koyote: i've never used emacs |
| 18:53.15 | koyote | ah |
| 18:53.37 | koyote | i'm not in a good position right now to open holes and get you sshd into my zaurus, though |
| 18:53.41 | kendwork | it's Control-ably delicious |
| 18:53.54 | wayne | koyote: could you just screenshot something from it? |
| 18:54.05 | wayne | i assume it'S text, but still, i'd like to see :) |
| 18:54.39 | koyote | i will get to that, but it's hard to drop things riught now |
| 18:54.46 | wayne | kay |
| 18:54.49 | wayne | no problem |
| 18:54.57 | wayne | no real need anyway, i'm just curious |
| 18:55.26 | koyote | it's got several views, three month, year, month, week, and stuff |
| 18:55.39 | koyote | hrm. openwebmail is too damned busybusy |
| 18:56.00 | koyote | be horrid to put onto a browser windows that was 640x480, let alone smaller |
| 18:56.19 | wayne | koyote: and i guess it handles alarms and whatnot? |
| 18:58.48 | koyote | well, i interface with unix for that |
| 18:59.02 | koyote | (and that's mostly in planner mode) |
| 19:01.22 | kendwork | koyote's nuts |
| 19:01.25 | kendwork | don't listen to him |
| 19:01.29 | kendwork | he's a damned bsd user!!! |
| 19:01.29 | kendwork | ;) |
| 19:01.43 | kendwork | /* Should this be here? */ ;) |
| 19:01.58 | koyote | wanna buy my 6k so i can get a 3k and put obsd on it? |
| 19:01.59 | koyote | ;) |
| 19:04.51 | licksjp | what do u developping language? |
| 19:04.52 | kendwork | no |
| 19:05.08 | licksjp | for zaurus? |
| 19:05.29 | koyote | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.33 | raduga | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.57 | *** join/#zaurus KhensU (randy@d207-6-196-177.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 19:18.00 | wayne | # What's all this about Theo? |
| 19:18.02 | wayne | # Who's theo? |
| 19:18.28 | raduga | REM in every fork- lies Theo |
| 19:18.36 | wayne | ' Dammit i wanted to use the REM one. |
| 19:18.45 | wayne | ; oh well. |
| 19:21.53 | wayne | % Guess that closes the subject. |
| 19:22.21 | wayne | <!-- Meh. --> |
| 19:23.18 | *** join/#zaurus KhensU (randy@KhensU.developer.debian) |
| 19:23.30 | *** join/#zaurus hufnus (~slonsiki@mc78936d0.tmodns.net) |
| 19:38.16 | *** join/#zaurus Zitune_ (~zitune@mna75-3-82-66-231-131.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:38.32 | Zitune_ | Hi there |
| 19:38.35 | *** join/#zaurus koyote (~christof@66.101.58.174) |
| 19:38.36 | licksjp | hi |
| 19:38.52 | *** join/#zaurus nessie (~nessie@lucifer.nerdfest.org) |
| 19:39.10 | koyote | wheee |
| 19:39.15 | Zitune_ | Is there a ipk package for the libc6 ? A package is telling me that it can't find it. |
| 19:39.28 | wayne | kowb :) |
| 19:40.49 | wayne | ... when i lag with my shell, i have weird stuff. |