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| 00:01.59 | gerrynjr | http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=SL5500-R&cat=PDA&cpc=JAD |
| 00:02.12 | gerrynjr | sl5500 for $164.50 |
| 00:03.40 | Luke-Jr | gerrynjr: boo 5500 =p |
| 00:03.51 | SuN | There's only one thing my SL-C860 can't replace... and that's the warm, fuzzy feeling that's inside me when I look at the SL-5500. |
| 00:04.14 | SuN | Although I know if I buy one, it'll end up sitting on my desk not being used... |
| 00:04.22 | Luke-Jr | 5500 is too PDAish |
| 00:04.25 | SuN | But I still have feelings for her, damnit! |
| 00:04.40 | gerrynjr | Luke-Jr: it's better then nothing 8-) |
| 00:04.55 | gerrynjr | I still use mt 5500 |
| 00:05.01 | gerrynjr | dont have the cash for the clamshell models |
| 00:06.06 | SuN | They'd better not ship to Europe, or I'll be buying. |
| 00:06.15 | SuN | I don't want to... but she's soooo pretty! |
| 00:07.14 | SuN | "Yes, we do ship internationally." |
| 00:07.20 | SuN | Damn you, gerrynjr! |
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| 11:26.04 | madeddie | hmm |
| 11:26.08 | madeddie | nice connection |
| 11:26.16 | madeddie | DrWily: time for another ISP? |
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| 11:58.27 | AnalogTek | What means "refurb" with respect to an SD card? |
| 12:05.33 | SuN | That it's used in some way or another. |
| 12:06.20 | SuN | Oh and if you take the literal meaning, they probably wiped it briefly with a cloth, |
| 12:10.10 | AnalogTek | heh |
| 12:12.53 | digitalwulf | hello |
| 12:18.31 | AT_C1k | howdy |
| 12:18.34 | wayne | anyone uses OpieReader along with plucker files ? |
| 12:19.08 | wayne | for some reason i have yet to find out, the images of the documents won't show up in opiereader |
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| 12:31.35 | MindChild | Can anyone recommend a decent NES emulator for the SL-5500? I need a time waster while on a flight |
| 12:32.28 | digitalwulf | search elsix.org |
| 12:32.35 | digitalwulf | or killefiz.de |
| 12:33.05 | MindChild | gracias |
| 12:33.51 | digitalwulf | I create a ZIP yesterday of my SD card with GCC+freepascal+KJC(java) compilers |
| 12:34.04 | digitalwulf | I send that zip to tad;) |
| 12:34.28 | digitalwulf | using FTP |
| 12:34.41 | digitalwulf | does anyone wants that ZIP? |
| 12:34.52 | digitalwulf | :| |
| 12:35.09 | digitalwulf | the compilers are ready to compile:) |
| 12:39.03 | AT_C1k | . |
| 12:40.37 | MindChild | digitalwulf: What else would I need to compile an app on Opie with that package? |
| 12:40.48 | MindChild | Automake at least, Im sure |
| 12:41.15 | digitalwulf | I don't know... I only know you can build QT applications with it |
| 12:41.35 | digitalwulf | :/ |
| 12:42.01 | MindChild | Ill take it |
| 12:42.05 | digitalwulf | you can also install yedit (graphical application) to write the code |
| 12:42.59 | digitalwulf | mindchild, you need to give me access to a FTP server to upload the zip file (28 MB) |
| 12:43.14 | digitalwulf | :| |
| 12:43.42 | MindChild | ftp to my ip |
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| 12:43.48 | MindChild | port 21212 |
| 12:44.03 | digitalwulf | you can download yedit here: |
| 12:44.06 | digitalwulf | http://gadget.mda.or.jp/zaurus/yedit.html |
| 12:44.10 | SuN | MindChild: if you can find a copy of zfceu... that's the best NES emu I've seen for the 5500. |
| 12:44.14 | SuN | Infones is slow. |
| 12:44.39 | MindChild | super |
| 12:44.45 | MindChild | I was already unhappy with infones |
| 12:44.50 | MindChild | and I sent 3 minutes using it |
| 12:45.57 | SuN | I'm afraid zfceu is sort of abandoned though... but you might find a copy somewhere in an old feed. |
| 12:46.04 | digitalwulf | mindchild: if you want the zip, enter private message and give me FTP details |
| 12:47.19 | SuN | http://www.westnelson.net/zaurus/zfceu_0.95-pre2_arm.ipk |
| 12:47.56 | SuN | You can use one of the gui thingies with it to select roms to play. |
| 12:50.53 | MindChild | GUI thingies? |
| 12:52.45 | digitalwulf | A good code editor YEDIT: http://gadget.mda.or.jp/zaurus/yedit_0.1-0_arm.ipk |
| 12:53.02 | MindChild | While I am at it, what is a recommended media player? |
| 12:54.26 | SuN | What rom are you running? |
| 12:54.52 | MindChild | Opie 3.5.3 |
| 12:54.58 | digitalwulf | does someone here ever tried www.qtopia.net ROM? |
| 12:54.59 | MindChild | Zaurus SL-5500 |
| 12:55.12 | SuN | You can try xmms-e with mplayer. |
| 12:55.15 | SuN | Or maybe Kino2 |
| 12:55.28 | digitalwulf | sun: why if I execute: |
| 12:55.38 | SuN | http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1176 |
| 12:55.42 | SuN | That's an emu frontend |
| 12:55.56 | digitalwulf | source fpc.sh or sh fpcsetup.sh -> don't work on openzaurus 3.5.3? |
| 12:56.14 | SuN | WHat does it say? |
| 12:56.57 | digitalwulf | I don't it installed on zaurus... I removed it last week because of that errors... |
| 12:57.18 | digitalwulf | it seems that he doesn't accept SOURCE or SH command |
| 12:57.30 | digitalwulf | :| |
| 12:57.32 | SuN | "Doesn't accept" or is it simply not there? |
| 12:57.42 | SuN | sh should work though. |
| 12:57.45 | digitalwulf | sun: hehe |
| 12:57.50 | digitalwulf | could be not there |
| 12:57.54 | SuN | Since it's likely a link to busybox. |
| 12:58.15 | digitalwulf | why source works on sharp rom and doesn't on openzaurus? |
| 12:58.36 | digitalwulf | I use that commands to configure GCC and FPC |
| 12:58.38 | SuN | source is part of tcl |
| 12:58.41 | SuN | You'd need to install that. |
| 12:58.49 | digitalwulf | oh, I see |
| 13:01.19 | AT_C1k | how to make C1k right Shift key shift? |
| 13:02.45 | MindChild | Ok, I must be doing SOMETHING wrong, because whatever .ipk I try to run, I get crazy crap like "( Unexpected symbol" |
| 13:03.27 | digitalwulf | :/ |
| 13:04.34 | MindChild | im a dumbass |
| 13:04.38 | MindChild | ignore me |
| 13:04.55 | AT_C1k | hm |
| 13:04.55 | AnalogTek | hm |
| 13:06.40 | digitalwulf | qtopia ROM is very coooooooool |
| 13:06.51 | digitalwulf | I like a lot the design of qtopia ROM |
| 13:06.59 | digitalwulf | http://www.qtopia.net |
| 13:07.13 | digitalwulf | the screen-shots that are there aren't updated. |
| 13:08.11 | MindChild | Ok, so apparently .ipk files arent binaries, but package files... unfortunately, they all seem to be looking for libraries that I think should be there |
| 13:08.48 | digitalwulf | mindchild: ipk are tar.gz files |
| 13:08.52 | digitalwulf | :) |
| 13:09.05 | MindChild | libopie1 and zlib1g |
| 13:09.17 | MindChild | digitalwulf: like slackware packages |
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| 13:14.40 | MindChild | Do I need to download these libraries from somewhere, or is this likely a path issue? |
| 13:28.13 | AT_C1k | how to make C1k right Shift key shift? (pdaXrom) |
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| 13:59.10 | TaZ | hello :) |
| 14:01.36 | MindChild | Hi |
| 14:01.39 | MindChild | My name is Joe |
| 14:01.49 | MindChild | I have a wife, two kids, a dog, and I work in a button factory |
| 14:04.20 | TaZ | it's cool =) |
| 14:06.36 | wayne | The other day my boss came up to me |
| 14:06.56 | wayne | She said Joe. I said what? Are you busy? I said no. She said well push this button with your right hand |
| 14:07.04 | wayne | etc etc |
| 14:07.19 | TaZ | ? |
| 14:07.23 | wayne | that's the song, Taz. |
| 14:08.30 | TaZ | ah!!!!!!! |
| 14:08.31 | TaZ | lol |
| 14:08.39 | TaZ | I don't know this song.... |
| 14:08.44 | TaZ | (I'm french) |
| 14:09.37 | TaZ | where are U ? |
| 14:09.48 | TaZ | what time is it at your home? |
| 14:09.48 | wayne | i'm french too, but I have a kid in kindergarten :) |
| 14:10.03 | wayne | it's 10:00 here in eastern canada |
| 14:10.09 | TaZ | I don't know where is kindergarten. |
| 14:10.19 | TaZ | AM or PM ? |
| 14:10.50 | wayne | if your french, kindergarten means "Garderie" |
| 14:10.54 | wayne | or "Prématernelle" |
| 14:11.02 | TaZ | okok gardeire :) |
| 14:11.02 | wayne | 10:00 is AM |
| 14:11.07 | TaZ | ok am =) |
| 14:11.26 | TaZ | 4h12 PM at my home |
| 14:11.45 | MindChild | You crazy french people |
| 14:11.51 | MindChild | and your language that makes sense |
| 14:12.29 | wayne | ahaha ;) |
| 14:12.30 | TaZ | I suppose it was a joke ? |
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| 14:12.59 | MindChild | TaZ: American english is to language as poop is to good food |
| 14:13.31 | TaZ | I don't understand :( |
| 14:13.35 | TaZ | poop = ? |
| 14:14.05 | TaZ | I'll be back... |
| 14:14.11 | MindChild | Nuber two... |
| 14:14.16 | MindChild | number two rather |
| 14:14.19 | MindChild | You sit on a toilet |
| 14:14.26 | MindChild | poop comes out |
| 14:15.48 | MindChild | I guess its a good thing I am a programmer vs a liguist |
| 14:15.53 | MindChild | linguist |
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| 14:24.39 | TaZ | hello pgas =) |
| 14:27.16 | pgas | hello |
| 14:32.58 | wayne | anyeone here uses opiereader/plucker? |
| 14:38.00 | TaZ | no sorry |
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| 15:25.14 | zip|6kL | mmmm Archos releases SDK |
| 15:33.05 | TaZ | yes zip|6kL =) |
| 15:33.08 | TaZ | hello zip|6kL |
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| 15:51.10 | inPherno | hi... on the sharp rom, how can i switch keyboard layouts... because i have an external keyboard with US layout, so i want it to switch whenever i plug the keyboard in |
| 15:51.25 | inPherno | as right now, the US keyboard has the japanese layout |
| 15:52.30 | wayne | http://sourceforge.net/projects/keyz |
| 15:52.35 | wayne | assuming you have an 5x00 unit. |
| 15:52.59 | inPherno | oh, i have a c3000, sorry.... the only one with usb host support :P |
| 15:53.07 | inPherno | its a usb keyboard |
| 15:53.19 | zip|6kL | guyhlem rom |
| 15:53.22 | wayne | right |
| 15:53.26 | wayne | sorry ;) hehe |
| 15:53.50 | zip|6kL | uhh never that wont work on 3k |
| 15:53.59 | zip|6kL | and 6ks have usb host too |
| 15:54.37 | inPherno | oh yeah :P |
| 15:55.02 | inPherno | so theres no way to change the keyboard layout on the c3000? |
| 15:55.10 | zip|6kL | not that i know of |
| 15:55.16 | zip|6kL | course i dont have one |
| 15:56.35 | TaZ | inPherno the C3000 is the last Zaurus? |
| 15:56.58 | inPherno | hm? |
| 15:58.23 | offroadgeek | the C1000s also have usb host |
| 15:59.20 | inPherno | was waiting for someone to say that |
| 15:59.25 | inPherno | congrats |
| 15:59.35 | offroadgeek | cool... do I get a boobie prize??? |
| 16:00.08 | inPherno | yeah, have a hash: # |
| 16:01.04 | pgas | Can I have a prize too? you can have usb host on other Z with a cf card like the Ratoc USB :) |
| 16:01.42 | offroadgeek | NO, pgas doesn't get a prize... |
| 16:01.49 | offroadgeek | you live in Greece right? |
| 16:01.52 | pgas | yep |
| 16:02.00 | offroadgeek | that's prize enough |
| 16:02.06 | pgas | aha |
| 16:02.16 | offroadgeek | oh ya... I hate you ;) |
| 16:02.36 | pgas | well you can come and visit me if you want ;) |
| 16:02.44 | offroadgeek | sweet! |
| 16:03.07 | offroadgeek | though I think I've heard somewhere that Minnesota is *very similar* to Greece... |
| 16:04.13 | pgas | ehe |
| 16:05.04 | pgas | less islands perhaps |
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| 16:10.46 | offroadgeek | yes, perhaps :) |
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| 17:26.37 | xmen | hello |
| 17:27.03 | xmen | excuse me, i have a problem since i install gpe on open-zaurus 3.5.3 |
| 17:27.25 | xmen | in fact, before, i could " ifup usb0" like oz with opi |
| 17:28.01 | xmen | but now, ifup (and ifconfig usb0 up) tells me : |
| 17:28.29 | xmen | SIOCISFADDRESS : no such device |
| 17:28.51 | xmen | SIOCISF{NETMASK,IFFLAGS} : no such device |
| 17:29.15 | xmen | root : SIO ADD DEL RT no such device |
| 17:29.44 | xmen | do you have an idea of which "modprobe" I should do ? (or if i have to do something else ?) |
| 17:30.04 | xmen | thank you :) |
| 17:30.43 | xmen | arf... i go on #openzaurus, sorry :( |
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| 19:44.06 | digitalwulf | hello |
| 19:44.40 | wayne | salut |
| 19:44.45 | Luke-Jr | hi |
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| 19:55.14 | TaZ| | hello digitalwulf :) |
| 19:55.28 | TaZ| | zggc don't work :( |
| 19:58.42 | digitalwulf | you need to execute the script first |
| 19:58.46 | digitalwulf | su root |
| 19:58.53 | digitalwulf | source zgcc.sh |
| 19:58.56 | digitalwulf | :=) |
| 19:58.59 | digitalwulf | then zgcc |
| 19:59.12 | wayne | anyone here tried plucker ? |
| 19:59.24 | pgas | zgcc or just gcc? |
| 19:59.29 | digitalwulf | zgcc |
| 19:59.31 | digitalwulf | :) |
| 19:59.56 | TaZ| | ok |
| 20:00.09 | digitalwulf | taz: it's running? |
| 20:00.11 | digitalwulf | ;) |
| 20:00.14 | TaZ| | I have do: "./zgcc.sh" is different ? |
| 20:00.25 | TaZ| | I did* |
| 20:01.12 | digitalwulf | well, I try and see... |
| 20:01.20 | TaZ| | ok |
| 20:02.56 | digitalwulf | wayne: sometime ago, yes |
| 20:03.33 | TaZ| | ok |
| 20:03.37 | TaZ| | but |
| 20:03.45 | TaZ| | in a shell when I make: |
| 20:03.52 | wayne | digitalwulf: i'm trying ti view plcuked documents (in palm .pdb format) I can view the text fine, but no images. Any ideas? |
| 20:04.01 | TaZ| | "gcc" or "zgcc" it tell to me "command not found" |
| 20:04.56 | pgas | if you do only ./zgcc.sh and not . ./zgcc.sh then the variable are not set in your current shell |
| 20:05.12 | TaZ| | ho! |
| 20:05.13 | TaZ| | but |
| 20:05.15 | pgas | but only in the subshell created when you run zgcc.sh |
| 20:05.18 | TaZ| | I have close my shell |
| 20:05.22 | TaZ| | and reopen it |
| 20:05.28 | TaZ| | and it tell the same thing |
| 20:05.41 | TaZ| | ah ok |
| 20:05.42 | TaZ| | so |
| 20:05.42 | digitalwulf | wayne: what reader you are using? |
| 20:05.49 | TaZ| | I must make "source zgcc.sh" ? |
| 20:05.54 | pgas | yes |
| 20:05.57 | TaZ| | okkkk:) |
| 20:06.03 | TaZ| | but now I'm on OZ ^^ |
| 20:06.04 | wayne | digitalwulf: oh, right :) I'm trying with OpieReader 1.7 for the sharp rom |
| 20:06.05 | TaZ| | héhé |
| 20:06.09 | digitalwulf | taz: use source zgcc.sh |
| 20:06.22 | TaZ| | ok I'll try it |
| 20:06.47 | digitalwulf | wayne: try http://only.mawhrin.net/~geometer/zaurus/fbreader/ |
| 20:07.00 | digitalwulf | don't know if he reads plucker files |
| 20:07.12 | pgas | Taz you use OZ? |
| 20:07.14 | wayne | digitalwulf: sweet, thanks. I'll give it a certain try |
| 20:07.28 | pgas | where did you found zgcc? |
| 20:07.49 | wayne | digitalwulf: hmm no it does not :/ Do you know of another tool than plucker that could make offline vesions of webpages? |
| 20:07.55 | pgas | because if it is the zgcc for the sharp rom it won't be very usefull on OZ |
| 20:07.57 | wayne | perhaps there's another way to html-ize that instead |
| 20:08.06 | digitalwulf | pgas: I sent a devpack to taz using FTP |
| 20:08.12 | pgas | ah |
| 20:08.49 | digitalwulf | wayne: wait a sec. |
| 20:08.57 | TaZ| | pgas I use OZ since today :) |
| 20:09.05 | digitalwulf | pgas: do you want the zip file? |
| 20:09.10 | TaZ| | I had test zgcc on sharp rom! |
| 20:09.24 | digitalwulf | pgas: give me access to a FTP server, I will upload it for you too. |
| 20:09.27 | pgas | is this for OZ? |
| 20:09.39 | pgas | digitalwulf: thank but I am a pdaxrom user ;) |
| 20:09.42 | digitalwulf | wayne: did you try: http://www.elsix.org/ |
| 20:09.44 | digitalwulf | ? |
| 20:10.05 | digitalwulf | pgas: it works on sharprom |
| 20:10.13 | Luke-Jr | TaZ|: zgcc isn't for OZ... |
| 20:10.16 | digitalwulf | pgas: taz says it works also on oz |
| 20:10.18 | pgas | so it won't work for OZ |
| 20:10.20 | TaZ| | pgas, the pdaxrom works on 6000L ? |
| 20:10.23 | wayne | digitalwulf: yes i've been browsing that for something but there's a truckload of outdated stuff since they mostly used killfiz.de's database. But i'll keep looking |
| 20:10.52 | TaZ| | Luke-Jr I known! |
| 20:11.07 | digitalwulf | WAYNE: this is a cool application: QuackNews v0.4.2 |
| 20:11.16 | pgas | TaZ|: ask koyote on #cacko he has just installed it |
| 20:11.23 | digitalwulf | wayne: QuackNews (formually jvMiniRSS) is a java RSS aggregator that downloads feeds and converts into HTML files that are stored on the PDA. It uses the already installed web browser to view the created files. |
| 20:11.24 | Luke-Jr | TaZ|: just use OE |
| 20:11.38 | TaZ| | ok pgas |
| 20:11.51 | digitalwulf | pgas: can I install pdaxrom on SL-5500;) |
| 20:11.55 | digitalwulf | pgas: hehe |
| 20:12.11 | digitalwulf | taz: try www.qtopia.net |
| 20:12.15 | wayne | digitalwulf: my original content would need to be in RSS format, which it itsn't. It's just a bunch of webpages out there that i wish to read on the go (comic strips, movie listings, that kind of stuff). Plucker was awesome for that.... |
| 20:12.19 | pgas | but due to the different version of libc and gcc i doubt that the gcc for sharp rom on OZ will be usefull |
| 20:12.34 | digitalwulf | taz: qtopia ROM, has a awesome design:) |
| 20:12.38 | pgas | digitalwulf: well you can try to build your rom with the pdaxrom builder ;) |
| 20:12.47 | TaZ| | ok digitalwulf |
| 20:12.52 | digitalwulf | wayne: use DOC |
| 20:12.55 | Luke-Jr | pgas: or use OE :) |
| 20:13.09 | wayne | digitalwulf: DOC? |
| 20:13.17 | wayne | the MS .DOC file format? |
| 20:13.17 | digitalwulf | wayne: doesn't your reader uses other formats other than plucker? |
| 20:13.41 | wayne | digitalwulf: yes, it can read html files. But i then need something to generate this html with. I mean, resizing images and all that stuff to "fit" nicely. |
| 20:13.43 | TaZ| | . |
| 20:13.58 | digitalwulf | wayne: I see... |
| 20:14.06 | pgas | Luke-Jr: yeah the gpe roms looks very nice |
| 20:14.28 | Luke-Jr | pgas: mine include Firefox and such :) |
| 20:14.33 | digitalwulf | wayne: opera new versions do something in PDA's about resizing pages... |
| 20:14.55 | wayne | digitalwulf: but uploading unresized web pages to the Z is a generous waste of space, especially when reading comics :) |
| 20:14.58 | Luke-Jr | http://utopios.org/~luke-jr/programs/oz-ljr/ |
| 20:15.22 | digitalwulf | pgas: I like the GPE ROM, but I couldn't install IPK's... |
| 20:15.49 | Luke-Jr | digitalwulf: ipkg install foo |
| 20:16.30 | digitalwulf | wayne: there are lots of books you can find on the web on other formats... |
| 20:16.41 | digitalwulf | wayne: you are searching for comics books? |
| 20:16.43 | TaZ| | . |
| 20:17.13 | digitalwulf | wayne: or you are searching a way to convert html files to plucker? |
| 20:17.17 | wayne | digitalwulf: no, i read online comics. like, say, www.dilbert.com, on a daily basis. I like doing that in my palm instead of on the computer |
| 20:17.31 | wayne | digitalwulf: plucker was a great tool that converts webpages into offline format that a PDA can read and view. On my PalmOS pda, i was using PluckerViewer |
| 20:17.46 | digitalwulf | taz: don't you want to try FREEPASCAL compiler? |
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| 20:17.46 | digitalwulf | ;) |
| 20:17.46 | digitalwulf | hello djk |
| 20:18.34 | digitalwulf | wayne: it would be better for you to search for a converter of that HTML pages to plucker or another file format... that runs on windows. |
| 20:18.57 | digitalwulf | wayne: you convert them on windows, than transfer them to zauri;) |
| 20:19.21 | wayne | digitalwulf: yes that is exactly what Plucker does. Now i need either a) a way for my zaurus to read plucker files, or b) Some other tool for converting webpages for offline reading |
| 20:19.29 | pgas | IIRC opie reader can read the plucker format |
| 20:19.30 | digitalwulf | wayne: search google for that tool, i'm sure you will find a lot of them |
| 20:19.40 | wayne | digitalwulf: yes i did search, and i found plucker |
| 20:19.40 | pgas | that what it claims |
| 20:19.50 | wayne | pgas: it does, but the images won't load |
| 20:20.01 | wayne | which makes it half-useful |
| 20:20.08 | wayne | links also don't work |
| 20:20.15 | wayne | it kinda loads "the first page of text" and that's it |
| 20:21.05 | TaZ| | no digitalwulf :-D |
| 20:21.05 | TaZ| | but I would like to make business with you =) |
| 20:21.10 | TaZ| | . |
| 20:21.11 | Luke-Jr | Pascal is obsolete and useless |
| 20:21.11 | wayne | i guess i could WGET it all and then run a resize on the images but that's a dirty dirty hack |
| 20:22.05 | digitalwulf | wayne: http://sitescooper.org/ |
| 20:22.23 | digitalwulf | wayne: ;))))) |
| 20:22.46 | wayne | digitalwulf: but that's for PALM, i have a ZAURUS |
| 20:23.21 | wayne | oh no wait! You might be right! |
| 20:23.23 | Luke-Jr | digitalwulf: Windoze sux |
| 20:23.33 | wayne | i misread, this thing can output html files |
| 20:23.41 | wayne | okay thanks, that might be good |
| 20:23.54 | TaZ| | digitalwulf, did yo have the same in french ? (http://sitescooper.org/) |
| 20:23.59 | TaZ| | please |
| 20:24.22 | wayne | TaZ|: use google or babelfish to translate the website? |
| 20:24.24 | digitalwulf | wayne: read!!! |
| 20:24.46 | digitalwulf | search the web for sitecooper |
| 20:24.47 | digitalwulf | ;) |
| 20:25.27 | digitalwulf | for windows: http://sitescooper.cx/devel/sitescooper-full.zip |
| 20:25.46 | wayne | hey cool sitescoope wiorks on unix in Perl |
| 20:25.50 | digitalwulf | http://zap.to/sitescooper/ |
| 20:25.51 | wayne | now we're getting somewhere |
| 20:26.11 | Luke-Jr | wayne: why not just wget the site? |
| 20:26.19 | wayne | Luke-Jr: images resizing mess |
| 20:26.28 | digitalwulf | WAYNE: Sitescooper automatically retrieves the stories from news websites, trims off extraneous HTML, and converts them into Plucker, iSilo, or Palm DOC format for later reading on-the-move. It will avoid stories you've already read, and can handle virtually any news site on the Web. Support for over 300 sites is included. Even if you don't have a handheld, it's still handy for simple website-to-text conversion. |
| 20:26.36 | Luke-Jr | wayne: sites that don't work at 640x480 are broken ;) |
| 20:26.48 | TaZ| | . |
| 20:26.52 | wayne | some comics strips are like HUUUUUUUUGE and my tiny 5600 wouldn't be good |
| 20:27.06 | Luke-Jr | scrollbars |
| 20:27.36 | wayne | when the frames are bigeger than the screen, it'S very hard to follow the story line :) |
| 20:27.39 | wayne | I've tried actually |
| 20:27.48 | wayne | some small comics work fine unresized, like dilbert |
| 20:27.53 | digitalwulf | wayne: well, is sitescooper what you were searching for or not??? ;)))))) |
| 20:27.58 | wayne | others are insane, like a good sunday fullpage comic |
| 20:28.11 | wayne | digitalwulf: i tolkd you 2 times that sitescooper seems to be perfect and i will certainly try it |
| 20:28.32 | digitalwulf | wayne: it's the best tool for what you need to do. |
| 20:28.44 | wayne | it seems to yeas |
| 20:28.49 | wayne | i'll try it this weekend |
| 20:28.57 | wayne | on that note i have to leave, end of workday :) later |
| 20:29.24 | digitalwulf | wayne: dont' forget to read the documentation: http://zap.to/sitescooper/ ;))) |
| 20:29.47 | wayne | no i prefer installing it and then bitching abou how it doesn't work :) hehe no really don't worry about me i'm a big boy |
| 20:29.58 | digitalwulf | taz: are you creating your first zgcc program on Z? |
| 20:30.17 | digitalwulf | wayne: hehe hehe |
| 20:31.56 | digitalwulf | wayne: you have also, this: |
| 20:31.58 | digitalwulf | http://www.avantgo.com/frontdoor/index.html |
| 20:32.29 | digitalwulf | avantgo does almost the same. |
| 20:33.59 | digitalwulf | taz: it seems you are very applied with playing with your first program;) |
| 20:34.40 | Luke-Jr | ... |
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| 21:57.49 | digitalwulf | hello |
| 21:58.22 | digitalwulf | ljp: when you will update the qtopia ROM? :| |
| 22:00.47 | George | oh no |
| 22:02.15 | digitalwulf | george: did you format the card with data inside? |
| 22:02.17 | digitalwulf | :) |
| 22:02.41 | digitalwulf | george: or does the zaurus don't boot anymore? |
| 22:02.46 | George | ... |
| 22:02.52 | George | I don't know where it is |
| 22:02.57 | George | it's in a drawer somewhere gathering dust |
| 22:03.12 | digitalwulf | TaZ|: how is going the zgcc compiler? |
| 22:03.49 | digitalwulf | george: you don't use anymore your Z... what you use as a PDA? |
| 22:04.18 | digitalwulf | george: let me gess... a personal agenda;)))) |
| 22:04.32 | George | I don't use a PDA. |
| 22:04.33 | George | never did. |
| 22:04.39 | George | my zaurus was a hacking toy |
| 22:04.58 | digitalwulf | so you think a PDA is a toy? :P |
| 22:05.00 | digitalwulf | ;) |
| 22:05.25 | zip|6kL | its a tool it even says on the thing |
| 22:05.38 | zip|6kL | "Personal Mobile Tool" |
| 22:06.40 | digitalwulf | zip: I like zaurus PDA because it's like having a computer you can use anywhere, anytime:=) |
| 22:08.05 | digitalwulf | zip: and a very powerfull PDA, because you can install apache, php, mysql, phpmyadmin, gcc, freepascal, use telnet, ftp, use as a computer network, use as a firewall, etc... etc... the list is so biiiiiiiiiig;) |
| 22:09.23 | digitalwulf | zip: you can read news, books, you can play games, you can browse internet using usb/network/wifi, you can use PIM applications |
| 22:09.38 | digitalwulf | zip: my zaurus isn't a toy:PPPP |
| 22:09.48 | digitalwulf | zip: I use it to work with |
| 22:10.25 | digitalwulf | zip, george: sorry both of you that could distict a PDA of a toy:) |
| 22:10.58 | digitalwulf | well, it's a hacker toy??? |
| 22:11.07 | digitalwulf | :) |
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| 22:11.27 | George | zip|6kL: ? |
| 22:12.11 | digitalwulf | well, i'm going sleep, goodnight you all |
| 22:13.06 | ljp | digit: working on it |
| 22:13.21 | ljp | oh,.. heh |
| 22:14.31 | zip|6kL | u do that everytime ljp :p |
| 22:14.38 | George | LJP!!!!!!! |
| 22:14.39 | ljp | i know |
| 22:14.42 | ljp | hey G |
| 22:15.27 | George | flooble |
| 22:15.59 | ljp | pinball |
| 22:16.02 | ljp | hahahaha |
| 22:31.22 | meshuga | anyone have the site to convert c1000 to english? |
| 22:31.29 | meshuga | finally got my c1000 but cant find the howto |
| 22:32.02 | zip|6kL | oesf.org/forums |
| 22:33.09 | pgas | conics,net had the info for the 860 maybe they have it for the c1000? |
| 22:33.34 | George | ljp: ? |
| 22:33.36 | George | ljp: pinball? |
| 22:34.18 | meshuga | pgas: they dont |
| 22:34.25 | meshuga | zip|6kL : reading thru right now, havent found anything |
| 22:35.25 | meshuga | i found a great c3000 translation |
| 22:39.22 | Luke-Jr | zip|6kL: George: The better Zaurii are not PDA, but handheld computers :) |
| 22:39.43 | ljp | they all are handheld computers |
| 22:39.58 | pgas | actually they are personal mobile tools ;) |
| 22:40.15 | George | Luke-Jr: bleh |
| 22:40.20 | George | Luke-Jr: I'll just wait until i have my X40 |
| 22:41.07 | Luke-Jr | George: wtf is X40? |
| 22:41.14 | George | Luke-Jr: IBM ThinkPad X40 |
| 22:41.34 | Luke-Jr | ljp: handhelds mainly describe a small computer that 1) fits in the hand, 2) has a keyboard, and 3) has a clamshell form-factor |
| 22:41.42 | Luke-Jr | ljp: some Z miss out on #3 |
| 22:42.41 | George | my laptop fits in my hand |
| 22:43.20 | George | doesn't fit in my pocket though |
| 22:43.32 | zip|6kL | ill wait for my OQO |
| 22:43.45 | George | I'll wait for my x40 |
| 22:44.27 | Pendalar | my wife is making me sad.. tryint to talk me out of getting a c3000 for my birthday |
| 22:44.44 | Pendalar | she can't fathom why a asus a620bt or something won't suffice (almost half price of the c3000) |
| 22:44.50 | Pendalar | it's all about linux -_- |
| 22:45.24 | Luke-Jr | hehe |
| 22:49.23 | ljp | i dont think #3 is necessary |
| 22:49.50 | ljp | I can do just about everything a clamshell can on a 5500 |
| 23:01.17 | Pendalar | I could also get a dell model but I doubt that would be any farther along on linux ports |
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| 23:29.07 | XenoTrout | Anyone know of a (lightweight, few dependencies) AIM client for X that works on the Zaurus? |
| 23:29.23 | TaZ| | yes |
| 23:29.24 | TaZ| | gaim |
| 23:29.24 | TaZ| | =) |
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| 23:30.30 | TaZ| | XenoTrout ? |
| 23:31.42 | XenoTrout | Gaim is good, but seems to have a lot of dependencies |
| 23:31.51 | XenoTrout | I use it on my bigger machines |
| 23:32.26 | XenoTrout | is there a static-compiled gaim for arm? |
| 23:32.44 | XenoTrout | gaim also seems to take up more screen than it needs |
| 23:33.00 | XenoTrout | but I should try it before I really say that |
| 23:36.10 | offroadgeek | xenotrout: qpe-gaim.sourceforge.net |
| 23:36.36 | XenoTrout | I'm running X |
| 23:37.00 | offroadgeek | yeah... that won't do you any good |
| 23:37.20 | XenoTrout | qpe-gaim or x? |
| 23:37.41 | offroadgeek | the link I gave you for qpe-gaim... x will do you tons of good! |
| 23:37.49 | TaZ| | XenoTrout |
| 23:37.58 | TaZ| | XenoTrout I'm on pdaXrom and http://212.10.30.205/rc10/Zaurus-SL6000/feed/gaim_1.3.0_armv5tel.ipk works fine :) |
| 23:38.14 | XenoTrout | x is good, just thought you might be saying it's a bit much for a z |
| 23:38.27 | offroadgeek | xenotrout: you running gpe, pdaxrom, or x/qt? |
| 23:39.08 | XenoTrout | I'm running pocket workstation, it uses x with a vnc server display and fbvnc |
| 23:39.35 | offroadgeek | then you should just be able to apt-get install gaim |
| 23:40.43 | XenoTrout | apt-get hangs when reading the package list, so I've been downloading deb files and using dpkg |
| 23:41.01 | offroadgeek | ah... got ya |
| 23:41.19 | XenoTrout | manual dependency resolution is a bit tedious |
| 23:41.23 | offroadgeek | I can't remember which irc client I have installed on my pws |
| 23:41.53 | offroadgeek | yes, indeed... especially with gaim... now I see your point ;) |
| 23:46.15 | XenoTrout | I was thinking about writing a perl client, but I haven't figured out Net::AIM yet and it seems like more work than I need (plus interpretted program...) |
| 23:46.36 | offroadgeek | TaZ|: how do you like OZ on your 6k? |
| 23:48.11 | zip|6kL | he is using pdaxrom |
| 23:51.38 | offroadgeek | oh yeah... he just mentioned that ;) |
| 23:51.51 | offroadgeek | but I thought he just flashed to OZ earlier today? |
| 23:55.35 | offroadgeek | does anyone have the LUS screensaver running with Fish? |