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| 02:09.38 | that_weasel | anyone know what the standard patitioning scheme is on the 860? |
| 02:18.49 | that_weasel | flashing isn't working...must be the partition thing |
| 02:19.09 | that_weasel | would be nice if someone had instructions on how to do this somewhere... |
| 02:20.02 | zip|6kL | tryed oesf.org? |
| 02:25.21 | that_weasel | thanks i'll check it out.. |
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| 18:50.58 | chuckr | I have a C3000, Im trying to clean up my disk in prep for some repartitioning, I found two VERY large directories called dict1 and dict2 (about a half gig in each) and I was wondering if anyone might have a clue as to what these are, and what tools they use, if I can destroy them? |
| 18:51.23 | raduga | dict1 and dict2 are japanese-english dictionaries |
| 18:52.09 | raduga | chuckr: if you're an otaku or some other kind of nihongophile, you may want to leave them alone. |
| 18:52.10 | chuckr | well, thanks! Do I need to save these boys? |
| 18:53.01 | chuckr | I mean, I could copy them to somewehre more permanent, I suppose, is there any tool in Zaurus that dies if these aren't there? |
| 18:54.21 | pgas | chuckr: before repartionning anything, my advice would be to backup everything ;) |
| 18:54.53 | chuckr | OK, that's a pita, but maybe youi're right .... hell, of course you are |
| 18:56.33 | raduga | chuckr: the dictionary tools. You're running Sharp Rom? |
| 18:56.45 | raduga | chuckr: if not Sharp, then I really can't imagine what's going to miss them |
| 18:57.23 | chuckr | I'm running sharp rom right now, but I'm thinking very strongly of adding openBSD to the mix |
| 18:57.31 | raduga | if you want to be safe, I'd copy them off-line and burn them to a DVD or something, in case you want to use a multimedia japanese-english dictionary some day. |
| 18:57.47 | chuckr | it looks like it's possible that dict2 might be some copy of dict1 |
| 18:58.03 | raduga | I *think* they're different. |
| 18:58.14 | raduga | one may be Japanese-english one may be English-japanese |
| 18:58.25 | chuckr | that's a good idea, but I need to get better at using the usb disk to one of my BSD machines |
| 18:58.36 | chuckr | I don;t know how to use umasss yet |
| 18:59.00 | chuckr | anyone listening h ere, running OpenBSD on their C3000? |
| 18:59.10 | pgas | I think there are different: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11096 |
| 18:59.21 | raduga | mass storage under Linux seems pretty well supported. |
| 18:59.39 | raduga | Ive never had a problem with it; except for weird chipsets of USB controller |
| 18:59.42 | chuckr | Oh , I konw they are, I just need to learn how yet. |
| 19:00.22 | raduga | chuckr: I guess what I'm saying is; standard Linux (i don't know bsd) OS support autodetects and configures pretty nicely. |
| 19:00.39 | raduga | there's a fair chance it may "just work" for you. |
| 19:00.59 | chuckr | Might be, let me see. I used to run Linux, but BSD is just so much more sane |
| 19:01.41 | chuckr | thanks for th eencouragement ... actually, I;m hunting anyone who is running OpenBSD on the C-3000 |
| 19:02.24 | chuckr | I want to do that, but it's making me nervous, not being ablel ti find even a single person running it on the Z |
| 19:03.09 | pgas | well not many Z user are familiar with Linux....so installing openbsd.... |
| 19:04.13 | raduga | I've run netbsd on Jornada, if that helps |
| 19:07.15 | pgas | NetBSD 2.0 released with support for 48 architectures, pretty impressive.... |
| 19:08.41 | raduga | just look at the architectures- they support nearly everything |
| 19:09.05 | pgas | yeah...sega dreamcast.... |
| 19:09.43 | raduga | 68k mac |
| 19:09.43 | pgas | Maybe i could fectch one from ebay and have yet another useless unix machine ;) |
| 19:09.51 | raduga | mips, sh3 pdas |
| 19:11.52 | raduga | one problem though, |
| 19:12.33 | raduga | do you *really* think the new netbsd logo is more tasteful, more recognisable, and more classy, than a daemon? |
| 19:13.14 | pgas | ehe right |
| 19:13.18 | raduga | does that ikon fit the essense of what BSD is... better than before? |
| 19:13.50 | raduga | the netbsd team wrote that... they thought the daemon was childish and immature, and that it was scaring away potential users. |
| 19:14.02 | raduga | and investors. |
| 19:14.37 | pgas | http://server4.caznetworks.co.uk/_pic/jpg-LDQkR8.pic |
| 19:15.26 | pgas | well linux has other icons, one for each distribution |
| 19:15.35 | pgas | most without a penguin |
| 19:15.55 | pgas | so maybe the netbsd team is right.... |
| 19:16.01 | raduga | i didn't say 'linux' |
| 19:16.12 | raduga | I asked when linus would ditch the penguin. |
| 19:17.21 | pgas | ah, right |
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| 19:42.01 | chuckr | if anyone here is feeling kind, and know how to usb usb to communicate to/from the Z, could I get a bit of help> |
| 19:42.34 | chuckr | take it offline and help me out a bit ... like I did for someone else yesterday over networking |
| 19:43.45 | chuckr | I wish to heck the docs on this thing could just be translated to English, because I'm certain that what I want to do is explained in great detail in that Japanese doc I have |
| 19:44.45 | chuckr | I tell you, this is a big thing that Sharp could do for it's customers is just to put a English translation up on the web, in pdf |
| 19:45.15 | chuckr | All the money we're spending, it's not a huge thing to do, they have all the graphics done for them |
| 19:45.57 | chuckr | anyhow, I have a Mac that I want to have communicate to the Zaurus, it's all wired up, but nothing works |
| 19:46.22 | chuckr | is there some app I need to run? |
| 19:49.03 | chuckr | anyone either accessing the Z's disk as a foreign disk, or using the usb as a net path? |
| 19:57.43 | raduga | hmm |
| 19:57.58 | raduga | chuckr: you should be able to use the Z as a mass storage USB device |
| 19:58.03 | raduga | OSX? |
| 19:58.21 | raduga | for usbnet, you'd need usbnet support on the Mac. I'm not sure it exists |
| 20:08.36 | Luke-Jr | I am |
| 20:08.43 | Luke-Jr | don't know any details, tho ;) |
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| 20:33.29 | chuckr | I'm back, and that's just precisely what I';ve been trying to do, unsuccessfully. I finally, by playing with a teeny little usb2.0 nub I have, ID'd the connection so I'm certain I have the C3000 being recognized, but beyond that, I just get |
| 20:33.42 | chuckr | large amounts of error windows being popped open |
| 20:34.41 | chuckr | the Mac should very automatically recognize any storage on the usb as storage. Networking may be as easy, it used to be when I ran the 860 |
| 20:34.56 | chuckr | I can get nothing to work NOW, tho |
| 20:35.03 | chuckr | on the C3000 |
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| 20:38.23 | chuckr | there isn't something like a translation available is there? |
| 20:38.36 | chuckr | for the Japanese manual? |
| 20:40.04 | raduga | chuckr: try trisoft |
| 20:40.09 | raduga | chuckr: www.trisoft.de |
| 20:40.30 | raduga | they're the major importer of zaurii in europe, they do a major effort to translate everything. |
| 20:41.15 | chuckr | looking |
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| 20:42.57 | chuckr | trisoft, it's nearly lol, they do it all in German! |
| 20:43.28 | chuckr | but i'ts an idea, maybe the folks I bought mine from have something ready (fat chance!) |
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| 20:50.31 | KallDrexx | hey all I have a question. I havn'et turned my zaurus on for literally 2 years now. I have a SL-5000. Unfortunatly I can't find half of my AC adapter so I have to buy a new one so I have 2 questions. 1) Will my battery charge up fine if it has been discharged for so long? and 2) Do 5500 accessories (like the AC Adapter) work for the 5000? |
| 20:50.51 | raduga | trisoft also publishes english translations |
| 20:51.14 | raduga | note, they're the major importer of zaurii for _europe_ and many of their customers are non-german. |
| 20:51.36 | raduga | though their site is somewhat confusing to navigate, if you're english-only |
| 20:52.41 | mickey|tv | all C7x0, 5xxx, and 6000 models share the same AC adapter |
| 20:53.01 | mickey|tv | and the same serial cable and other acessories |
| 20:53.12 | mickey|tv | only the battery differs |
| 20:53.17 | KallDrexx | ok |
| 20:53.40 | KallDrexx | would it be likely that the battery would work after it being discharged for so long? |
| 20:53.49 | mickey|tv | depends on its condition |
| 20:53.53 | mickey|tv | some do |
| 20:53.58 | mickey|tv | some don't |
| 20:54.05 | KallDrexx | hrm |
| 20:54.06 | mickey|tv | just stick it in and let it charge for 12h |
| 20:54.10 | mickey|tv | don't turn it on |
| 20:54.38 | KallDrexx | well if theres hope I'll get it then (didn't want to pay $11-30 for a charger for it not to work) |
| 20:55.00 | mickey|tv | you can reuse the charger if you decide to go for a slightly more modern Z ;) |
| 20:55.31 | KallDrexx | hehe thats true |
| 20:55.56 | KallDrexx | do those sync+charger combination cables work? |
| 20:56.20 | mickey|tv | you mean the usb cables? |
| 20:56.38 | KallDrexx | yeah it's a usb cable that hooks up the the zaurus, says it cna charge it too |
| 20:56.49 | mickey|tv | not sure. loading via usb is a feature of the c7x0, i don't know if the 5xxxx already can do that |
| 20:57.05 | KallDrexx | well the cable says it's for 5500 |
| 20:57.11 | mickey|tv | ah then it'll work |
| 20:57.16 | mickey|tv | 5000 is really 100% the same as 5500 |
| 20:57.23 | mickey|tv | just less RAM |
| 20:57.28 | KallDrexx | ahh ok |
| 20:57.57 | KallDrexx | thats cool then, only have to spend $11 isntead of $30 to charge up my zaurus, only thing is i have to hook it up to a comp all the time |
| 20:58.24 | mickey|tv | and it'll take much longer |
| 20:58.29 | mickey|tv | usb doesn't make 2A |
| 20:58.35 | mickey|tv | at least not mine |
| 20:58.39 | KallDrexx | ah |
| 20:59.00 | KallDrexx | probably wroth it to spend the extra $ to get an AC then |
| 20:59.07 | mickey|tv | yeah |
| 20:59.25 | KallDrexx | I have a 256 CF card for all my information swapping anyway |
| 21:01.33 | KallDrexx | thanks for the info :) |
| 21:03.00 | KallDrexx | so when I get the charger leave the Z plugged in for at least 24h before turning it on? |
| 21:03.20 | mickey|tv | ya |
| 21:03.34 | mickey|tv | although 12h should do as well |
| 21:03.54 | KallDrexx | I remember when I first got it they told me to do that, though I did turn it on while plugged in (coudln't resist not using it for very long :P) |
| 21:04.06 | mickey|tv | hehe, same here |
| 21:07.43 | KallDrexx | cool ordered |
| 21:07.46 | KallDrexx | thanks for your help :) |
| 21:07.58 | mickey|tv | np |
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| 21:50.15 | chuckr | I just found out how to connect a Zaurus to a Mac as a drive, and I'm currently tarring up the filesystem of hdd3, and if this is unusual, I can tell you how I did it |
| 21:52.02 | chuckr | the darned filesystems are huge, I'm backing up about a gig of storagem lucky I have the places to put it. At the moment it's only hdd3 |
| 21:52.33 | chuckr | I think I know how to access the others, but it's going to have to wait a bit for verification |
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| 22:03.43 | newbie | evening everyone |
| 22:04.54 | newbie | anyone have a clue why I can't get my zaurus sl-5500 to sync with my XP system?? I can ping the zaurus, but cannot sync.?? firewalls are off.. and it makes the connect sound like a windows pda, but no syn'ing |
| 22:05.20 | newbie | also have the newest rom, and the newest sync util they have out there |
| 22:09.56 | newbie | hmmm for 57 people in here is sure is quiet :) |
| 22:15.22 | subdue | use the same ip |
| 22:15.31 | subdue | reboot after that |
| 22:19.02 | newbie | use the same ip?? |
| 22:19.54 | newbie | I think perhaps is has something to do with the NDIS driver, but can't be sure.. |
| 22:21.54 | newbie | it is connecting very well.. as I said can ping to it.. but the windows drivers I think are having problems. |
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