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| 16:49.43 | RockClimber | anyone got an opinion on upgrading 5500->clamshell maybe C760? |
| 16:50.17 | zip| | no but i got one i goin from a 5600 to 6000 |
| 16:51.20 | RockClimber | haven't seen any 6000 for sale in the UK (ebay or shirtpocket) |
| 16:51.52 | zip| | there was one on the forum |
| 16:59.22 | raduga | rockclimber: i have a few opinions. |
| 16:59.30 | raduga | rockclimber: what do you use your 5500 for? |
| 17:00.30 | raduga | rockclimber: what particularly, is lacking in the 5500 that you hope to see in an upgrade? |
| 17:01.16 | raduga | what are the greatest strengths and deficiencies of the 5500? |
| 17:03.56 | RockClimber | small screen |
| 17:04.24 | RockClimber | is the xscal 400 twice as fast as the 206, if so, the speed boost would be nice |
| 17:04.59 | RockClimber | also, I suppose it depends on whether the sd driver for 2.6 ever gets written, I'd like a palmtop with 2.6.x linux |
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| 17:07.53 | raduga | well, the clamshell screens aren't physically *much* bigger than the 5500. The major improvement is in the quality of display, and resolution- they can handle full 640x480. |
| 17:08.47 | raduga | the 400mhz xscale is in fact faster, but you don't realistically get twice the speed for most applications. As with windows, and most other OSes, so much gets eaten up in overhead. |
| 17:09.08 | raduga | i'd say, maybe, 1.5x as fast. |
| 17:09.55 | raduga | for a 2.6 kernel, there isn't much difference between a 5500 and a C860; the only one presently developing 2.6 are the OpenZaurus team, and they are porting for *all* models of Zaurus. |
| 17:10.10 | raduga | and 2.6 doesn't presently work; it's slowly getting there. |
| 17:10.32 | raduga | the major advantages of the clamshells are: |
| 17:11.06 | raduga | brighter screen, more detail; more flash storage; better keyboard |
| 17:11.14 | raduga | somewhat faster CPU |
| 17:12.06 | raduga | however, the 5500 screen is probably more readable outdoors in direct/indirect sunlight, than the clamshell's. |
| 17:12.29 | raduga | gerrynjr: heh. |
| 17:13.14 | gerrynjr | my 5500 isnt bad though |
| 17:13.14 | gerrynjr | I like the gpe environment, but not the lack of apps 8( |
| 17:13.18 | raduga | i like X |
| 17:13.30 | gerrynjr | same here |
| 17:13.30 | raduga | not for a pda/pim, however. |
| 17:13.35 | gerrynjr | oh 8) |
| 17:13.44 | raduga | oops. |
| 17:14.03 | raduga | i misread gpe as qt |
| 17:14.03 | raduga | heh |
| 17:14.03 | gerrynjr | my main grip w/ OZ, and will always be... is the fact that one can fill up the / fs w/ symlinks |
| 17:14.25 | gerrynjr | i've tried OZ... got hooked on it.. installed tons of apps |
| 17:14.32 | gerrynjr | and then, it wouldnt boot b/c / got filled |
| 17:14.57 | gerrynjr | so, unfortunately, I stick w/ a rom that does not have the flash mount rw |
| 17:15.04 | raduga | ibot insult kergoth |
| 17:15.28 | raduga | ibot praise kergoth |
| 17:15.31 | ibot | All hail kergoth! |
| 17:15.41 | gerrynjr | raduga: but, that is my _only_ gripe |
| 17:16.12 | Pendalar | I plan to buy a clamshell in approx 1.5 month if my saving keeps going like it should |
| 17:16.14 | Pendalar | maybe less |
| 17:16.18 | raduga | my major gripe is, gpe runs awkwardly/brokenly on the C760 |
| 17:16.26 | raduga | very sluggish, buggy. |
| 17:16.31 | Pendalar | but I have a huge problem with buying something that's been out x months |
| 17:16.38 | raduga | of course, kergoth reminds me that it's my own fault. |
| 17:16.42 | gerrynjr | gpe is responsive on sl5500 |
| 17:16.50 | Pendalar | because you know just around the corner, my luck the next day, a new super duper unit will be out |
| 17:16.54 | raduga | If I'd only submit bug reports, then all the bugs would get fixed, he says. |
| 17:17.06 | gerrynjr | raduga: however, that gripe was for opie roms 8) |
| 17:17.15 | Pendalar | I think kergoth is latin for it's your own fault ;-) or at least would make sense to me |
| 17:17.18 | gerrynjr | raduga: heh... i complinaed to him, he said "we're working on an alternative" |
| 17:17.28 | gerrynjr | raduga: been that way for ~10 months 8) |
| 17:18.25 | raduga | pendalar: I don't know what 'kergoth' translates to, but not too long ago, I realised that "Off Road Geek" is an anagram for "Kergoff da OE" |
| 17:18.34 | Pendalar | I should as ljp what's coming out/when if that's not a trade secret or something |
| 17:19.11 | Pendalar | before I'd explore possible anagrams of channel members, I think I'd choice an alternate life style =0) |
| 17:19.21 | raduga | pendalar: it's coming out Real Soon :) |
| 17:19.51 | Pendalar | I know there's a few linux phone/pda's coming but I'm not interested |
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| 17:19.59 | Pendalar | unless the rest of the hardware beats, say c3000 |
| 17:20.58 | raduga | pendalar: yeah, and imagine being stuck on an airplane flight for several hours, with your trusty linux phone/pda stuck firmly in your pocket, because you're not allowed to power it up |
| 17:21.21 | raduga | pendalar: i like my phone- small. |
| 17:21.27 | raduga | pendalar: i like my pda- big. |
| 17:21.49 | RockClimber | I thought you could turn the phone off on most pda/phones |
| 17:21.51 | raduga | pendalar: any obvious hybrid is going to fail both function |
| 17:21.53 | Pendalar | heh |
| 17:22.07 | gerrynjr | raduga: not necessarily |
| 17:22.27 | Pendalar | well I'm not a big fan of cell's in general, but yes there are issues with cell+pda (ie in airplane's, etc) |
| 17:22.46 | Pendalar | and too hybrid's tend to be behind in hardware specs against the top-of-the-line non hybrid |
| 17:23.07 | zip| | but on the plane your gonna switch it to wifi and use voip |
| 17:23.35 | gerrynjr | there are many benifits to a hybrid device though 8) |
| 17:23.45 | gerrynjr | not that I own one |
| 17:24.32 | raduga | gerry: if i ever find a hybrid phone/pda that comes my way, i'll send it your way. okay? :) |
| 17:25.57 | gerrynjr | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS4604576509.html < that doesnt look that bad |
| 17:26.36 | Pendalar | voip heh.. technology that's existed forever and now commercialized when it should be free =-p |
| 17:26.43 | gerrynjr | I wont own one... |
| 17:26.48 | gerrynjr | but I thing they are not bad 8) |
| 17:26.54 | gerrynjr | Pendalar: get a fwd account |
| 17:27.02 | gerrynjr | http://www.pulver.com/fwd/ |
| 17:27.11 | gerrynjr | it's free |
| 17:27.27 | Pendalar | I'm not against.. skype or what not, just saying like Voyage == ripoff |
| 17:27.34 | gerrynjr | Pendalar: agreed |
| 17:27.56 | gerrynjr | Pendalar: the main part I see they need to commericalize is the vo/ip -> regular phone portion |
| 17:28.00 | zip| | heh that phone looks like something straight out of star trek |
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