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00:23.55 | Luke-Jr | Does the Z's /dev/dsp use 44KHz or 48KHz? |
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00:24.36 | kergoth | why dont you ask it? iirc there's an ioctl to see what rates are supported |
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00:25.46 | Luke-Jr | For input |
00:26.08 | Luke-Jr | I just cat'd /dev/dsp to a file earlier, and I don't know what the correct rate is to open it as |
00:26.52 | Luke-Jr | OZ doesn't seen to have ioctl, either |
00:26.55 | kergoth | WHAT? |
00:26.59 | kergoth | ~fishslap Luke-Jr |
00:27.02 | ibot | ACTION slaps Luke-Jr up side the head with a wet fish. |
00:27.04 | kergoth | ioctl() is a syscall. |
00:27.11 | Luke-Jr | I know that |
00:27.12 | kergoth | you can ask the dsp what it supports _programatically_ |
00:27.20 | Luke-Jr | Isn't there usually an ioctl bin that calls it also? |
00:27.20 | kergoth | apparently you dont. |
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00:27.22 | kergoth | no. |
00:27.28 | kergoth | perhaps you're thinking of sysctl |
00:27.31 | Luke-Jr | probably |
00:27.32 | kergoth | which is quite different |
00:27.47 | Luke-Jr | What ioctl would I use? |
00:27.57 | kergoth | the OSS api is standard |
00:27.59 | kergoth | well documented |
00:28.01 | kergoth | google is your friend |
00:28.37 | kergoth | alsa is broken on ARM in general right now |
00:28.53 | kergoth | so couldnt really do that yet |
00:29.01 | Luke-Jr | hrm |
00:29.11 | Luke-Jr | ALSA is semi-broken on PPC also... o.o |
00:29.57 | kergoth | Luke-Jr: http://www.opensound.com/pguide/ |
00:29.57 | kergoth | heh |
00:30.09 | Luke-Jr | thanks |
00:30.11 | kergoth | apparently alsa makes some assumptions about cache coherency which arent true on arm |
00:30.15 | kergoth | np |
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00:32.33 | alrs | Luke-Jr are you using that for-pay SIP client, or are there CF cellular modems available now? |
00:32.45 | Luke-Jr | alrs: I am using KPhone |
00:33.09 | Luke-Jr | over WiFi to my Asterisk box at home |
00:33.41 | alrs | I've been wanting to do that for awhile, but I keep putting my Z away waiting for the ROMs to settle down |
00:34.44 | Luke-Jr | About the only problem left is that the OK/Cancel on the outside of my Z don't work w/ OZ |
00:34.53 | Luke-Jr | so I need to take it out of my pocket to accept calls :( |
00:40.05 | alrs | I'm stuck with a Pocketop keyboard that won't work |
00:40.14 | alrs | and the gpe images won't install |
00:41.05 | alrs | I installed 3.5.2 OZ with the opie image and IRK bombed on install complaining about dropping config information into non-existant /etc/init.d locations |
00:41.07 | alrs | maddening |
00:45.18 | alrs | My saddest OZ moment was when I met a guy on the street with an OZ identical to mine |
00:45.27 | alrs | he'd even installed the same OZ roms |
00:45.48 | Luke-Jr | LOL |
00:45.49 | alrs | and the things bombed when we tried to IrDA business cards |
00:45.55 | kergoth | haha |
00:48.19 | Luke-Jr | meh |
00:48.24 | Luke-Jr | easier to just assume 44KHz |
00:55.09 | tux_mike | anyone know much about the charging circuitry of the Z? |
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01:26.21 | alrs | I am trying to get my pocketop keyboard working |
01:26.31 | alrs | I have installed 3.5.2 on my 5500 |
01:26.32 | alrs | afresh |
01:27.02 | alrs | I install lirc_0.7.0-r5_collie.ipk |
01:27.11 | alrs | this is all OZ, of course |
01:28.02 | alrs | and it complains. " /etc/init.d/lirc does not exist" |
01:28.10 | alrs | and "/etc/init.d/portmap: file does not exist" |
01:28.37 | alrs | there is a portmap.init |
01:31.00 | alrs | I touched the two missing files |
01:31.16 | alrs | and tried again, this time it complained even more |
01:31.17 | alrs | sigh |
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01:46.16 | herbieach | hi kergoth - my coworker rdwtu1 was talking with you earlier about my 5500 |
01:47.16 | herbieach | see http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=10832 for details |
01:50.04 | herbieach | any suggestions would be appreciated |
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03:06.16 | herbieach | kergoth you around |
03:06.25 | kergoth | yep |
03:06.51 | herbieach | <PROTECTED> |
03:07.28 | herbieach | was wondering if you had any suggestions |
03:08.48 | herbieach | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=10832 describes |
03:09.05 | herbieach | the symptoms |
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15:34.59 | tux_mike | anyone know much about the Z's batter charging capabilities? |
16:07.37 | tux_mike | hey kerg |
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16:08.38 | tux_mike | hey kerg |
16:09.47 | kergoth | hey |
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16:19.49 | tux_mike | kergoth: would you know if i can hotwire a bigger battery to the Z? |
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17:27.29 | raduga | tux_mike: you're better off just building an external battery pack |
17:27.54 | raduga | i.e. nimh AA x4 |
17:28.37 | raduga | though, if you have an SL5500 or a C700/750 you may be able to mod the case slightly, to accomodate a BL08 battery |
17:29.18 | raduga | but if you already have an SL5600, a C760/860 or C3000, you already have the largest battery you're likely to fit |
17:29.32 | raduga | and if you have a 6000, there's only one battery in the known universe that will work |
17:31.32 | raduga | actually, the C3000 battery should fit without mod, in a SL5600 and C760/860 |
17:31.40 | raduga | it has a slightly greater capacity than BL08 |
17:50.52 | tux_mike | raduga: i'm gutting it and putting it in an entirely new case |
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18:24.03 | raduga | tux: which model? |
18:26.10 | raduga | tux: all the zaurus' batteries should be electrically compatible. non-zaurus batteries may be problematic. |
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18:29.59 | tux_mike | sl-5000 |
18:30.33 | tux_mike | i want to convert it so i can play emulated games :) |
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18:46.37 | raduga | even in a new case, it will still be a bit slow. |
18:48.15 | raduga | hrm. I'd say, just get a BL11 |
19:00.13 | tux_mike | BL11? |
19:04.41 | raduga | BL-06 = 5000D standard battery |
19:04.54 | raduga | BL-08 = 5600/C760/C860 standard battery |
19:05.02 | raduga | BL-11 = C3000 standard battery |
19:06.03 | raduga | BL-06 = 950mAh |
19:06.18 | raduga | BL-08 = 1700mAh |
19:07.07 | raduga | BL-11 = ~ 1900mAh iirc |
19:08.28 | raduga | er. no. it's only 1800 |
19:08.36 | raduga | still, a little better. |
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19:15.15 | raduga | tomimo: hello? |
19:15.19 | raduga | are you a bot? |
19:15.21 | raduga | you never speak. |
19:15.47 | tomimo | no |
19:15.49 | tomimo | i'm sorry, but I haven't had too much time for zaurus in a long time |
19:16.01 | tomimo | I'm still eager to try to stay in touch however |
19:16.23 | raduga | okay :) |
19:16.43 | raduga | thanks! I have been wondering... as you are frequently in channel, listening, but have never spoken before that I've seen. |
19:17.21 | raduga | I don't think many of us have much time for our Zauruses anymore anyway. |
19:17.40 | raduga | aside from obsessive-compulsive coders, like Kergoth & company |
19:21.28 | ViV | tomimo-tokoso 8) |
19:23.32 | raduga | building, breaking, and so on |
19:24.01 | tux_mike | raduga: do you know a good NES emu? :) |
19:25.12 | raduga | no; I've been trying to emulate other things |
19:25.41 | tux_mike | ah |
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20:52.50 | tux_mike | i just don't like talking to users |
20:53.03 | tux_mike | but i work at a hell desk |
20:53.19 | raduga | when users want to do stupid shit, though, sometimes they need to be talked to. |
20:53.35 | tux_mike | or electrocuted |
20:53.47 | raduga | electrocution leaves a mess. |
20:54.09 | raduga | and i'll get complaints from other users about the rotting pile of debris |
20:54.29 | raduga | (and if i electrocute more users, it only will make the debris pile larger and stinkier) |
20:55.16 | tux_mike | haven't you ever heard of the phrase the more the merrier? :) |
20:57.30 | raduga | the ventillation in here isn't sufficient to abate the smell of sufficiently many users electrocuted to counterbalance the complaints of rotting users smell in the hallway. |
20:58.37 | raduga | at least if you send them *away* with a sharp, stern "No!" they will carry their bodies out of the local environment. |
20:58.53 | raduga | which is more sanitary by far. |
20:59.54 | raduga | even really stupid things have merit, for someone. |
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22:56.42 | saimone | where can I find the libqte2 ipk package ? |
22:58.44 | raduga | for what rom? |
23:01.36 | saimone | OpenZaurus 3.5.2 |
23:02.23 | raduga | ask the OZ folk maybe |
23:02.27 | raduga | #openzaurus |
23:02.31 | raduga | or Kergoth |
23:02.52 | saimone | they didn't answer |
23:06.32 | subdue | wait and ask them later |
23:06.34 | subdue | or google |
23:07.30 | saimone | thx, I'll wait |
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