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| 07:57.11 | alan_ | hello everyone ! |
| 07:58.09 | alan_ | i seem to have troubles with mplayer on pdaxrom RC9 and RC9.1. |
| 07:58.29 | alan_ | It randomly crashes when playing video. |
| 08:00.05 | alan_ | The strange thing is that it doesn't when playing audio, so i would say it is related to ffmpeg, but i am not sure at all... |
| 08:00.13 | alan_ | Anyone hard about this ? |
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| 08:58.32 | alan_ | anyone here ? |
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| 08:59.42 | alan_ | bump |
| 09:33.53 | alan_ | oki, solved by reinstalling libffmpeg and libogg |
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| 11:21.56 | dipnlik | mickeyl: ping? |
| 11:25.46 | mickeyl | pong |
| 11:26.11 | dipnlik | hi |
| 11:26.25 | dipnlik | any plans on modifying irk for latin users? |
| 11:26.48 | mickeyl | not me. |
| 11:26.52 | mickeyl | cwaig is the author of irk |
| 11:26.59 | mickeyl | i'm just the MAINTAINER of the package in OE |
| 11:27.29 | dipnlik | oh, ok. can cwaig be found on irc? |
| 11:27.58 | dipnlik | last time i asked for info on a package, kergoth said "go ask the maintainer"... :p |
| 11:28.34 | mickeyl | which is correct when you want "info" |
| 11:28.59 | mickeyl | no, cwaig is never on irc. you can contact him by posting in the proper thread on zaurususergroup.org |
| 11:29.13 | mickeyl | s/or/@/ |
| 11:30.20 | dipnlik | ok, thanks |
| 11:31.35 | dipnlik | the info i wanted was just like this, about chances of seeing features being available on the next versions. Anyway, forget about ir |
| 11:32.06 | mickeyl | ah well, but that's not really info about the package |
| 11:32.10 | mickeyl | it's info about the program |
| 11:32.16 | mickeyl | which is why you need to contact the author |
| 11:32.25 | mickeyl | unfortunately the upstream authors don't maintain the packages |
| 11:32.29 | mickeyl | which would make many things easier |
| 11:33.13 | mickeyl | well, maybe not. |
| 11:33.21 | mickeyl | since most upstream authors have no clue about building and packaing |
| 11:33.26 | mickeyl | packaging, even |
| 11:40.02 | dipnlik | oh, i see. but ipkg info irk doesn't give a clue about cwaig, only have info on the maintainer. is it supposed to be this way? |
| 11:40.56 | mickeyl | in theory the fields, SRC_URI, HOMEPAGE, AUTHOR should give info |
| 11:41.02 | mickeyl | if all three are missing, it's bad, of course :) |
| 11:41.10 | mickeyl | we gradually need to fill in more metadata |
| 11:43.47 | dipnlik | ah, ok. |
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| 12:05.24 | Kronoss | hi |
| 12:05.41 | Kronoss | i need 2.4.6 kernel headers for Zaurus |
| 12:05.51 | Kronoss | where can i get it? |
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| 13:05.02 | mickeyl | looks like that sourcecode has vanished |
| 13:05.07 | mickeyl | what do you need it for? |
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| 13:22.29 | benno2 | hi, can zaurus be used for VOIP ? |
| 13:43.00 | VladDrac | probably |
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| 15:50.05 | xfze | benno2, yes it can |
| 15:50.19 | xfze | there is kphone for opie ;) |
| 15:50.53 | benno2 | xfze: but can you speak to the PDA without using an earset ? |
| 15:51.59 | xfze | i think so |
| 15:52.06 | xfze | i've never tried |
| 15:52.23 | xfze | but we have mic and speakers, what else do we need? :D |
| 15:52.49 | xfze | (on my poodle at least) |
| 15:55.59 | xfze | http://www.pi-sync.net/html/kp_pi.html |
| 16:17.36 | benno2 | xfze: the problem of most PDAs ist that the mic is too close to the speaker and therefore you get lots of echo |
| 16:17.43 | benno2 | not sure how the zaurus perform in this regard |
| 16:18.25 | xfze | maybe it has a smart mic.on/mic.off option |
| 16:18.43 | xfze | wich will only turn on mic when you speak |
| 16:18.52 | xfze | (like a walkie talkie) |
| 16:19.09 | xfze | i dunno |
| 16:19.11 | xfze | lol |
| 16:24.30 | benno2 | no walkie talki style communication is not acceptable these days :) |
| 16:25.34 | xfze | lool |
| 16:26.09 | xfze | i meant something automatic, that you wouldn't even notice, not a push to talk thing :D |
| 16:27.59 | xfze | it's not so dificult to code it: the mic would stay with low volume until it hears something loud, then it would record properly, once one is trough speaking it would turn the volume of the mic down again so it wouldn't "hear" the speaker |
| 16:28.18 | xfze | it's not a good solution, but it's one solution :D |
| 16:28.19 | xfze | lol |
| 16:28.33 | xfze | *a solution |
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| 19:00.33 | david | anyone in here? |
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| 20:44.33 | whitey | well hello all again, got a quick ? so I attempted and failed miserably to uninstall the dropbear ssh server and go for the full blown openssh server |
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| 20:45.27 | whitey | only thing is after successfully uninstalling the dropbear app and installing the openssh from the OZ systems package manager and go back to the opie terminal I type "ssh" and it says not a recognized cmd or something to that effect |
| 20:45.37 | whitey | any ideas on what is going on? |
| 20:46.05 | whitey | or a trick to get the openssh suite isntalled properly onto my sl-5500 running OZ 3.5.2 |
| 21:01.15 | whitey | guess not, time to go back and hack at it again I guess :( |
| 21:01.15 | kergoth`food | there are a number of packages. |
| 21:01.16 | kergoth`food | it isnt just one all encompassing openssh package |
| 21:01.42 | whitey | I know I saw that I started off w/ that one and also saw openssh-ssh and openssh-scp openssh-sftp etc... |
| 21:02.00 | whitey | I installed all to RAM and still no go including the openssh-sshd server daemon |
| 21:02.09 | kergoth`food | ls /mnt/ram/usr/bin/ssh |
| 21:02.19 | kergoth`food | ls /usr/bin/ssh |
| 21:04.12 | whitey | what am I looking for in there specifically? just that they exist cause i am kinda dead in the water now here at work, I uninstalled the openssh stuff again and tried to get dropbear again just for the time being but no open AP here at the uber secure Northrop Grumman Network :( |
| 21:04.46 | whitey | so of course it was a no go to even get dropbear back at this time until I get home in about 4 hours |
| 21:04.53 | kergoth`food | if /usr/bin/ssh exists and is a valid symlink to /mnt/ram/usr/bin/ssh, then ssh can be run just fine. |
| 21:05.09 | whitey | awesome thanks |
| 21:05.27 | kergoth`food | if /usr/bin/ssh doesnt exist, but /mnt/ram/usr/bin/ssh does, then the symlinking went bad, and you just need to ipkg-link |
| 21:05.38 | kergoth`food | if neither exist, then it wasnt installed to that destination at all |
| 21:05.46 | kergoth`food | process of elimination. |
| 21:05.47 | whitey | still having hell w/ gain on OZ and opie player2 but that is another story alltogether I need openssh more for it's forwarding capabilities w/ the -L options and all |
| 21:05.52 | kergoth`food | nod |
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| 21:09.26 | whitey | once again thanks for all the help Kergoth, your support and knowledge are greatly appreciated. Take it easy |
| 21:09.40 | kergoth | no problem |
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| 22:51.32 | VladDrac | how large are the mtd devices on a c860 and/or other models? Can anyone check? |
| 22:52.35 | mickeyl | let me see |
| 22:52.55 | mickeyl | 64MB on c760,c860 |
| 22:53.10 | mickeyl | err,no |
| 22:53.14 | mickeyl | 64/64, of course |
| 22:53.26 | mickeyl | 32/32 on all others |
| 22:53.36 | mickeyl | except the collie |
| 22:53.41 | mickeyl | but that one's old :) |
| 22:54.46 | VladDrac | the pdaxrom initrd.bin is 44mb - how does that fit? |
| 22:55.27 | mickeyl | they perform that disputable partition hack |
| 22:55.51 | mickeyl | essentially they resize the standard sharp partitioning |
| 22:56.08 | VladDrac | ah ok |
| 22:56.25 | VladDrac | would you happen to know the size on c3000's? |
| 22:56.47 | mickeyl | yeah, hold on. let me look into the kernel source |
| 22:58.13 | mickeyl | looks like 16mb |
| 22:58.19 | VladDrac | thought so |
| 22:58.23 | VladDrac | 16mb/16mb? |
| 22:58.31 | mickeyl | no, 16 in total |
| 22:58.35 | mickeyl | one partition |
| 22:58.36 | VladDrac | ah ok |
| 22:58.41 | VladDrac | hmm well no, |
| 22:59.05 | mickeyl | ya, right |
| 22:59.09 | mickeyl | 7mb SMF |
| 22:59.16 | mickeyl | the standard diagnose stuff |
| 22:59.40 | mickeyl | i can't see what is in NOR though |
| 22:59.55 | VladDrac | there's a root and a home partition |
| 23:00.03 | mickeyl | you have a sl3000 ? |
| 23:00.10 | VladDrac | mtdparts=sharpsl-nand:7168k@0k(smf),5120k@7168k(root),-(home) |
| 23:00.23 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 23:00.24 | VladDrac | that would be 7168k smf, 5120k root and the remaining home |
| 23:00.29 | mickeyl | yes |
| 23:00.30 | VladDrac | I have one yes |
| 23:00.35 | mickeyl | could you cat /proc/mtd |
| 23:00.43 | VladDrac | I can't |
| 23:00.52 | VladDrac | but I have the output somewhere - hold on :) |
| 23:01.39 | VladDrac | hmm thought I had it somewhere |
| 23:01.51 | mickeyl | nm |
| 23:02.41 | VladDrac | dev: size erasesize name |
| 23:02.41 | VladDrac | mtd0: 006b0000 00020000 "Filesystem" |
| 23:02.41 | VladDrac | mtd1: 00700000 00004000 "smf" |
| 23:02.41 | VladDrac | mtd2: 00500000 00004000 "root" |
| 23:02.41 | VladDrac | mtd3: 00400000 00004000 "home" |
| 23:03.00 | VladDrac | anyway |
| 23:03.24 | VladDrac | I'm trying to build a stripped-down pdaxrom image (has to fit in 5120K) and put the rest on the microdrive |
| 23:03.30 | VladDrac | but it's rather hard :) |
| 23:03.41 | mickeyl | why don't you use OZ ? |
| 23:03.42 | kergoth | heh, use oe. constructing a minimal rootfs for 5120k is a breeze |
| 23:04.33 | VladDrac | oz isn't available for c3000 right? |
| 23:04.39 | mickeyl | yep |
| 23:04.48 | mickeyl | waiting for someone to add the necessary bits |
| 23:04.54 | mickeyl | lets say a weekend for someone motivated |
| 23:04.57 | mickeyl | with a device |
| 23:04.57 | mickeyl | heh |
| 23:05.04 | VladDrac | someone like me :) |
| 23:05.09 | mickeyl | right! :) |
| 23:05.22 | kergoth | there really shouldnt be much to it. mostly minor integration work |
| 23:05.38 | mickeyl | heh i even added a kernel for 'ya when i was bored |
| 23:05.47 | kergoth | drop the hd right over / |
| 23:05.52 | VladDrac | unionfs? |
| 23:05.53 | mickeyl | cool |
| 23:05.58 | kergoth | ~unionfs |
| 23:05.59 | ibot | [unionfs] a stackable unification filesystem. See http://www.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu/project-unionfs.html for details. |
| 23:06.10 | kergoth | VladDrac: you can mount one filesystem on top of another, yet still access the files of the one underneith. |
| 23:06.21 | kergoth | VladDrac: lets you do thingsl ike mount a ramdisk overlayed on a read only flash root filesystem |
| 23:06.26 | kergoth | makes live cds painless |
| 23:06.42 | VladDrac | ah ok sounds cool |
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| 23:06.54 | VladDrac | and sounds like what I need - mount the extended /usr over my limited /usr |
| 23:06.59 | kergoth | we've been playing with using it as the root filesystem in OZ, for read only rootfs support and stuff. and cleaner installs of packages to alternate filesystems |
| 23:07.02 | kergoth | yeah |
| 23:07.03 | VladDrac | (though it's no real problem to lose the old /usr) |
| 23:07.10 | kergoth | or just over / |
| 23:07.15 | VladDrac | mickeyl: oe = openembedded? |
| 23:07.17 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:07.33 | VladDrac | oe would be able to build a suitable image for me? |
| 23:07.40 | VladDrac | (for c3000) |
| 23:07.42 | kergoth | itll build an untested c3000 image |
| 23:07.53 | kergoth | you'll be the one to report and iron out any kinks :) |
| 23:08.06 | kergoth | actually, we'll have to make sure the eraseblock size on the images is correct |
| 23:08.14 | kergoth | and nand vs nor, but tahts minor |
| 23:09.55 | VladDrac | btw what is 'eraseblock' all about? |
| 23:10.00 | VladDrac | it's jffs2 related, that much I know |
| 23:10.38 | xfze | anyone who uses opie-remote? |
| 23:10.45 | mickeyl | more or less related to the physical flash block size |
| 23:10.52 | mickeyl | which is why you better get that matching |
| 23:10.57 | mickeyl | or else it won't boot |
| 23:11.04 | xfze | when i launch it lircd dies =\ |
| 23:12.17 | xfze | lircd 0.7.0: lircd(sa1100) ready |
| 23:12.17 | xfze | lircd 0.7.0: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| 23:12.17 | xfze | lircd 0.7.0: could not open /dev/lirc |
| 23:12.17 | xfze | lircd 0.7.0: default_init(): No such device |
| 23:12.17 | xfze | lircd 0.7.0: caught signal |
| 23:12.18 | VladDrac | bedtime.. perhaps I'll try OE tomorrow night. thanks for the input |
| 23:12.21 | kergoth | VladDrac: with flash devices, you cant just erase arbitrary bits. you have to erase an entire block. hence, the block size, is the minimum chunk that can be erased. filesystems like jffs2 account for that, marking bits as "erased" without physically erasing the block, and the like, to keep the # of erases down |
| 23:12.38 | VladDrac | kergoth ah ok |
| 23:13.00 | kergoth | with an incorrect eraseblock size, the filesystem wont work properly on that flash |
| 23:13.06 | kergoth | so we just need to know what it is when we create the image |
| 23:13.20 | VladDrac | well |
| 23:13.32 | VladDrac | I'm currently building pdaxrom images using a 16kb erasesize |
| 23:13.44 | VladDrac | mkfs.jffs2 --eraseblock=16KiB --root=`pwd` --little-endian --squash --faketime --devtable=../device_table-minimal.txt -n --output=../j2ffs.img |
| 23:13.51 | kergoth | 16kb is correct, you already told us that |
| 23:13.56 | kergoth | ~17:02 < VladDrac> mtd2: 00500000 00004000 "root" |
| 23:14.00 | kergoth | 4000 is 16k |
| 23:14.01 | VladDrac | ah ok :) |
| 23:24.45 | VladDrac | good idea |
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