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00:01.14SkyWriter5the pda apps i can do without, really want a tiny linux workstation with X11
00:01.40SkyWriterbbs
00:03.30nninusomeone know amout linux on dell axim x30
00:05.52nninusomeone know about linux on dell axim x30
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00:10.15nninuSkyWriter wich one
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00:16.28raduganninu: if you want to know about running linux on wince handhelds, try asking in #handhelds.org
00:16.32radugaor http://handhelds.org
00:16.50radugahowever, in general, the Linux available for most of these devices will be feeble and underdeveloped
00:17.21radugazaurus is one of nearly the only PDAs that ship with linux pre-installed, and which doesn't require people to be elite hackers, to even get linux to run at all.
00:20.24raduganninu:  there's some information on here
00:20.25radugahttp://zap.eltrast.ru/en/dell-linux-download.html
00:21.13pgasthe keyboard of the SL-C is what really makes the difference for me
00:22.13radugaalso: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/AximX30
00:22.22radugathe port does not appear to be very far advanced.
00:25.42raduganninu: linux does not currently run on the axim x30.  it may someday, if enough people who care enough succeed in
00:25.51radugaa) determining the hardware specs
00:25.59radugab) writing drivers that support the hardware
00:26.06radugac) putting everything together
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13:25.05phragZaurus Gallery Section... http://www.slackwaregallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=86#body
13:25.05phrag=)
13:26.06mickeylnice
13:26.07Rupert-Giles;)
13:26.34Rupert-Gilesanyone got a zaurus with xfree on it :D
13:26.39phragjust added it an a few pics from about... feel free to add to it
13:26.53phrags/an/and
13:27.46Rupert-Gileshaving fluxbox or something on it would rule!
13:27.49Rupert-Giles:)
13:28.25mickeylno biggie
13:28.29mickeyljust add it to the OE build system
13:29.26phraganyone using a GPRS/GSM CF card ?
13:37.10Rupert-Gilesjust away to order my zaurus c3000
13:37.12Rupert-Giles:D
13:46.16phragRupert-Giles: if shirtpocket wait until monday to order mine from japan, they might send ours same time
13:46.22phragunless they ordered on friday
13:49.08Rupert-Gileshaha yeh then i'll beat you :P
13:54.16Rupert-Gilesthat zaurus with xfce is kick ass
14:03.45phragi wonder if this will work with C3000... http://www.yoss.de/cgi-bin/yosst.htm?shop=10
14:05.20Rupert-Gileshmmm
14:05.36phrag"Therefore the serial interface on the port is used, so there are no drivers (like BlueZ) neccessary."
14:05.38Rupert-Gilesthere are heap of applications for the zaurus
14:06.01phragi know... it's class...
14:06.14phragcheckout this ultra compact 56k modem for it... http://www.yoss.de/cgi-bin/yosst.htm?shop=10
14:06.47Rupert-Gilesheh
14:07.02Rupert-Gileswe need to find more leet screenies
14:07.04Rupert-Giles:)
14:07.10Rupert-Gileswith like blackbox running or something
14:07.23phragi have some, standard and other ROM's
14:07.29phragi'll upload to gallery
14:07.30phraghttp://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=116667
14:07.36phragthat is a nice GPRS phone
14:07.44phragcomplete mobility, without mobile phone =)
14:08.31Rupert-Gileshawhaw
14:08.37Rupert-Gilesthat would rule
14:09.37Rupert-Gilesit's wicked it has a 4GB hdd
14:09.42phragjust put a sim in it, and you can pull 40-60kb/s
14:09.51Rupert-Gilesnice!
14:10.54phragi bought a spare battery and CF NIC lastnight
14:11.38phraghttp://conics.net/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/sl-acc.html
14:12.06phragthat's where shirtpocket and dynism import from
14:12.14Rupert-Gilesyou rich or something
14:12.15Rupert-Gilesheh
14:12.25phragno, just geek =)
14:12.37phraghttp://conics.net/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/sl-c3000/wpc2004/remote.jpg
14:12.38Rupert-Gileslol
14:12.43phragthat is nice too
14:12.47phragwho needs an ipod
14:12.53Rupert-Gilesyeh ipods are lame ;D
14:13.01phragheh
14:13.46phragthen there are CF GPS cards too! =)
14:13.57Rupert-Gilesw00t
14:13.58Rupert-Gileslol
14:17.23Rupert-Gileshow much you spending on yours :P
14:17.28Rupert-Gileslike a million
14:21.16phragsomething to look at later...
14:21.22Rupert-Gilesheh
14:22.30phragjust getting CF wifi/nic, 1gb sd, case, stylus, bluetooth serial device at the moment
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14:24.04Rupert-GilesLOLOL
14:24.08Rupert-Gilesheh
14:24.12Rupert-Gileswoot
14:30.54phragordered?
14:31.08phraggot a wifi card ?
14:31.20Rupert-Gileslol dude i aint as rich as you :P
14:37.14Rupert-Gilesphrag, where you getting your 1GB SD
14:38.13phragdabs.com
14:38.16phrag32x
14:38.38Rupert-Gilescoo
14:38.47Rupert-Gilesyou ever used ebuyer?
14:39.08phraghttp://www.dabs.com/uk/Search2/Product+Details.htm?quicklinx=38MF
14:39.11phragno
14:39.18Rupert-Gilesdude ebuyer rules
14:39.39phragthat SD card was the best 1gb i could find
14:39.54Rupert-Gilesi might get a 512GB
14:39.56Rupert-Gilesoops
14:39.57Rupert-GilesMB
14:39.59phragcool
14:40.04Rupert-Giles512GB i wish
14:40.16phragit will also double with my camera, so bonus
14:40.29Rupert-Giles:D
14:41.03Rupert-Gileswhat wifi card u getting
14:41.29Rupert-Gilesi dont have a wireless network so kinda pointless
14:41.43Rupert-Gilesbut i can go snoop other wifi networks mwuahaha(tm)(evil)
14:42.09phraghttp://www.linksys.com/international/product.asp?coid=6&ipid=295
14:43.05Rupert-Gilescool
14:43.07phragwanted the WCF54G but it has issues on the zaurus with 802.1g i heard
14:43.15Rupert-Gileshmm
14:43.54phrag802.1b will do
14:44.11Rupert-Gilesipkgfind
14:44.12Rupert-Gileswicked
14:44.19Rupert-Gilesgnome
14:44.21Rupert-Gileswoot
14:44.23phragi only have an 802.1b wlan at the moment anyway
14:44.34Rupert-Gilesi have no wlan
14:44.35Rupert-Giles:)
14:45.01phragnice site
14:45.30Rupert-Gileshuh?
14:45.52phragRupert-Giles: handy for cities and such... wifi is still scare unless in built up areas, that is why i want GPRS.. General Packet Radio Service
14:45.59phragipkgfind
14:46.13phraghttp://ipkgfind.handhelds.org/
14:46.15Rupert-Gilesyeh
14:46.25Rupert-Gilesyup
14:46.32Rupert-Gilesthat would rule having GPRS
14:46.50phragso could get root to my box from middle of a cow field =P
14:46.56phragmoo
14:46.59Rupert-Gileshaha
14:47.01Rupert-Gilesyeh
14:47.04Rupert-Gilestotally
14:47.08Rupert-Gilesm00
14:47.32phragcoffee/smoke time
14:47.50Rupert-Gileshahaha
14:47.53Rupert-Gilescool man
14:48.34Rupert-Gileswonder if anyone has gnome on their zaurus
14:48.36Rupert-Giles:D
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16:20.26phrag>50 pics on new zaurus gallery now =)
16:21.58Rupert-Gileslol went downstairs to get a pepsi and fell asleep
16:22.13Rupert-GilesCool!
16:28.48phraglike the new additions =)
16:29.59Rupert-Gilestotally
16:30.10Rupert-Gilesdude ive just about ordered it
16:32.38phrag=)
16:33.06phraganother thing is a mobile phone with GPRS and bluetooth
16:33.16Rupert-GilesDONE!
16:33.17Rupert-Giles:D
16:33.22Rupert-Gilesshit am in debt now
16:33.23Rupert-Gileslol
16:33.23phragmost new mobiles have both those facilities now
16:33.33phragheh, who isn't...
16:33.38phragbut you have a cool geek toy!
16:33.42phrag(soon)
16:34.11phragwonder if you can change the Q icon to a slack org or something =P
16:34.12Rupert-Gilesna am not really in debt i have more than enough to cover it am just like oooo nooo should i shouldn't i
16:34.12Rupert-Gilesheh
16:34.18phragorb*
16:34.19Rupert-Gilesbut i thought feck it
16:34.22Rupert-Giles;D
16:34.25phragheh, too right
16:34.28phraghow old by the way ?
16:34.34Rupert-Gileshuh?
16:34.38Rupert-Gilesam i?
16:34.40phragaye
16:34.44Rupert-Giles21 dude
16:34.56phragmad... ditto
16:35.00Rupert-Gilesyou?
16:35.02Rupert-Gilesace
16:35.03Rupert-Gilesheh
16:35.11phragwhat you do for work ?
16:35.17Rupert-Gilesuni at moment
16:35.22Rupert-Gilesbut i soon finish
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16:35.25phragdoign CS ?
16:35.29Rupert-Gilesso i'll have to look for job
16:35.31Rupert-Gilesyup
16:35.36Rupert-Gilesinfo technology and comp sci
16:35.44Rupert-Gilesi wont find jack shit up here
16:35.47Rupert-Gilessucks :(
16:36.13Rupert-Gilesit's all crap like helpdesk and windows IT manager
16:36.13Rupert-Gilesif that
16:36.13Rupert-Gilespfff
16:36.13phragi did a 5 year electrical apprenticeship when i left school, so just finished that in summer and starting CS/Internet Computing at (hopefully) St. Andrews
16:36.16Rupert-Gilescool
16:36.26phragthat's my justification for buying Z =)
16:36.36phragwill come in so handy at uni
16:36.55phragmost uni's will have public wifi coverage ?
16:36.57Rupert-Gilesyeh sure....
16:36.58Rupert-Giles:P
16:37.08Rupert-Gilesstop trying to justify it with a lame excuse :P
16:37.21Rupert-Gilesyou bought it cause it looks wikkid NEAT!!
16:37.24Rupert-Giles;)
16:37.32Rupert-Gilesand it runs LINUX!
16:37.32phragheh, but what is it liek there... public coverage on campus ?
16:37.41phragat yours
16:37.46Rupert-Gilesmost unis have good coverage
16:37.48Rupert-Gileswifi
16:38.04phragcool
16:38.07Rupert-Gilesyup
16:38.13Rupert-Gilescan't believe this thing has a 4GB hdd
16:38.15Rupert-Gilesthats ace
16:38.41phrag2.9 free user space with default
16:39.48phragso i'll keep about 1.5/2GB for apps, 1/1.5GB for mp3/movie, with SD for rest
16:40.42phragmay aswell load it up with everything we can
16:40.52phragno point skimping on space =P
16:41.15phraggetting SD too ?
16:41.31phragthere are cheaper 1GB ones than the one i showed you
16:47.13Rupert-Gileskeep 2.9 for teh warez0rz
16:47.15Rupert-Gilesheh
16:47.21Rupert-Gilesphrag, check out www.ebuyer.com
16:47.26Rupert-Gilesebuyer is cool!
16:48.07Rupert-Gilesthey got heaps of wicked kick ass stuff
16:51.38Rupert-Gilesphrag! buy me stuff please!!!
16:51.40Rupert-Gilesheh
16:53.00Rupert-Gileswhoa the rain is brutal out there
16:58.14Rupert-Gileswonder what the battery life is like
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18:38.41phragexcellent... 2.6.10 has a zaurus usb option =)
18:38.59phragassuming that takes care of the usb network device part =)
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18:45.07Rupert-Giles:D
18:45.13Rupert-Gileskick ass
18:45.18Rupert-Gileswhere abouts in the kernel?
18:46.47Rupert-Gileszaurus rocks
18:46.52Rupert-Gilesordered mine man
18:47.24phragin the usb network device section
18:48.41phragCONFIG_USB_ZAURUS=y
18:49.05phraggrep /usr/src/linux/.config -e ZAURUS
18:52.38Rupert-GilesACE!
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23:09.26Kingsley!!!
23:09.32Kingsleyhey this cannel actually exit
23:09.37Kingsleyanyone still alive?
23:10.01Rupert-Gileswoot
23:10.10Kingsleyyea
23:10.17KingsleyRupert-Giles ~
23:10.27Rupert-Gileshai2u
23:10.29Kingsleydo you know where to find a media player for the zaurus?
23:10.41Rupert-Gileskillefiz.de?
23:10.45Kingsleymost of the sites seem to be down
23:10.59Rupert-Gileshmmm not sure
23:11.03Kingsleywhat zaurus version do you konw Rupert-Giles ?
23:11.05Kingsleyown*
23:11.10Kingsleyand what media player do you use?
23:11.15Rupert-Gilessoon to be a C3000
23:11.20Rupert-Gilesi haven't got it yet
23:11.21Rupert-Giles:)
23:11.28Rupert-Gilesordered it today
23:12.32Rupert-Gilesmplayer?
23:12.40Kingsleyum..
23:12.47Kingsleya non-command line media player
23:12.52Kingsleylike the default sharp media player
23:12.53Rupert-Gilesbooo why?
23:12.56Kingsleyand opie
23:13.03Kingsleycause i'll be too lazy to use the keyboard
23:13.10Rupert-Gilesheh
23:13.12Kingsleywhat rom do you run on your zaurus?
23:13.14Kingsleythe default one?
23:15.48Kingsleyhello?
23:16.13Rupert-Gilesit will be
23:16.21Rupert-Gilesam not too clued up yet on the zaurus
23:16.30Rupert-Gilesi havent recieved mine yet ;D
23:16.43Kingsleya
23:16.47Kingsleyyou don't have a zaurus yet?
23:16.58Rupert-Gilesna i ordered mine today
23:17.01Kingsleyi have an sl5500 that i bought last year
23:17.03Rupert-Gilesso it will be a couple of weeks
23:17.06Rupert-Giles:)
23:17.07Kingsleypowerful little sucker
23:17.11Rupert-Gilescool
23:17.18Kingsleybut sharp stop selling it in the US
23:17.18Rupert-Gilesyou like it? :)
23:17.20Kingsleyyes
23:17.23Rupert-Gilesyeh so i heard
23:17.26Kingsleybut the screen is scratch
23:17.32Kingsleyand i can' seem to find support sites for it
23:17.32Rupert-Gileswhat stuff you got on yours?
23:17.40Kingsleyat one point
23:17.43Kingsleyi had gcc on it
23:17.46Kingsleya few games
23:17.49Rupert-Gilescool
23:17.52Kingsleya mpeg4 player
23:18.00Kingsleyyea, i used to program on my zaurus
23:18.07Kingsleydidn't turn out well though
23:18.11Rupert-Gilesheh
23:18.16Kingsleyi still prefer a full size keyboard
23:18.20Rupert-Gilesyeh
23:18.30Rupert-Gilesam gonna pwn some c/c++ when i get mine
23:18.32Kingsleyi also had handcom word and excel
23:18.37Rupert-Gilescool
23:18.44Rupert-Gilesyou put any emulators on it?
23:18.47Kingsleyyes
23:18.49Rupert-Gileslike snes gameboy
23:18.50Rupert-Giles:D
23:18.50Kingsleyi had zsnes on it
23:18.57Rupert-Gilescool did the games run good?
23:19.07Kingsleywell i only played ff5 on the zsnes emulator
23:19.12Rupert-Gilesheh
23:19.17Kingsleybut there is ultima 7 or so for the zaurus
23:19.25Kingsleyultima looks good on it
23:19.30Rupert-Gileswicked man
23:19.32Kingsleybut i didn't play that much either
23:19.35Kingsleylol
23:19.37Rupert-Gilesi wanna play like super mario world
23:19.38Rupert-Gilesheh
23:19.48Kingsleyand there is a wesnoth port for the zaurus
23:19.48Rupert-Gilesi can't wait to get meh zaurus
23:19.50Kingsleywhich si really nice
23:20.10Kingsleywell the one *bad* thing about my zaurus is that it ai'nt powerful enough to do the things i want
23:20.19Rupert-Gileswhat cpu it got
23:20.32Kingsleythe sl5500 comes with the armstrong 206Mhz cpu
23:20.36Rupert-Gilesahh
23:20.55Kingsleyi think the cl3000 comes with the xscale 4xxMhz cpu
23:21.00Rupert-Gilesyeh
23:21.02Rupert-Gilesit does :)
23:21.10Kingsleyhopefully it plays video better
23:21.22Kingsleythe cl3000 looks nice
23:21.26Kingsleybut its too damn expensive
23:21.30Kingsleyhow much did you pay?
23:22.03Rupert-Giles600?
23:22.07Kingsleynot bad
23:22.08Rupert-Giles800$ maybe
23:22.16Kingsleywhat do you mean?
23:22.22Kingsleyyou havn't paid for it already?
23:22.25Rupert-Gilesyeh
23:22.36Rupert-Gilesi was doing the conversion to dollars for ya
23:22.37Rupert-Giles;P
23:22.40Kingsleyah
23:22.42Rupert-Giles600? here
23:22.45Kingsley!
23:22.52Kingsleyso you're in europe?
23:22.58Rupert-Gilesyeh
23:23.08Kingsleyneat
23:23.13Rupert-Gilesam kinda happy cause it's a good little machine and it's got a 4GB hd
23:23.25Kingsleyi bought my zaurus for $250
23:23.30Rupert-Gilescoool
23:23.38Kingsleywhich is cheap for a 206Mhz pda
23:23.39Kingsleyyea
23:24.00Kingsleyto be truthful though
23:24.02Rupert-Gilesi seen a screen shot with zaurus running xfce and fluxbox
23:24.02Kingsleyin the end
23:24.05Rupert-Gileslooks well nice
23:24.15Kingsleyi only use the zaurus todo list and address book
23:24.21Rupert-Gilesheh
23:24.30Kingsleyit seems thats best function it has as a pda
23:24.42Kingsleyi really can't do anything better on my zaurus that i can with  my laptop
23:25.00Rupert-Gilesam gonna use mine for pwnin wlans / c, c++ / emulators
23:25.03Rupert-Gilesheh
23:25.07Kingsleynice
23:25.11Rupert-Gilesand lookin nifty
23:25.12Kingsleycareful though
23:25.19Kingsleyi easily max out my CPU
23:25.24Kingsleyespecially running videos
23:25.25Rupert-Giles:|
23:25.30Rupert-Gilesyeh maybe some pr0nz
23:25.32Rupert-Gileslol
23:25.36Kingsleyno
23:25.40Kingsleyi use to watch anime
23:25.43Rupert-Gilescool
23:25.46Rupert-Gilesi got anime
23:25.52Kingsleyand i re-encode the vidoes to fit on the zaurus
23:25.53Kingsleyahha
23:26.01Kingsleyha know what i find funny
23:26.30Kingsleythe same people who like linux, tend to like anime, tend to be computer savvy
23:26.32Rupert-Gileshttp://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8170&st=15
23:26.41Rupert-Gilesnear the end of the page screenshot
23:26.43Rupert-Gilesfluxbox
23:26.47Rupert-Gilesheh
23:26.52Rupert-Gilesyeh i got lots of anime
23:26.58Rupert-Gileslike the good stuff not the dodgy weird stuff
23:26.59Rupert-Giles;D
23:27.02Kingsleyi'm not an anime fan anymore though
23:27.09Kingsleyo?
23:27.15Kingsleywhats the last good one you've seen
23:27.21Rupert-Gilesprincess mononoke, spirited away, akira...
23:27.23KingsleyFMA was the last anime i watch
23:27.28Rupert-Gilesninja scroll
23:27.30Rupert-Gilesstuff like that
23:28.03Kingsley......
23:28.10Kingsleyanyway, yea
23:28.16Kingsleythe zaurus could use a more powerful cpu
23:28.26Rupert-Gilesmine has got a pretty nifty cpu :D
23:29.22Kingsleythrust me
23:29.28Kingsley400 mhz ain't enough
23:29.39Rupert-Gilesnooo
23:29.41Kingsleymine had trouble playing vid. at 320x240
23:29.44Rupert-Gilesdont say that
23:29.44Rupert-Gilesheh
23:29.52Rupert-Gilesi wont be playing much vid
23:29.56Kingsleyhiquality vid. that is
23:30.00Rupert-Gilesfew clips
23:30.03Rupert-Gileshere and there
23:30.22Kingsleyyou'll probably want to play vid.s at 640x480
23:30.23Rupert-Gileswas it just like dropping frames n stuff?
23:30.34Kingsleywall for hi.quality vids. yes
23:30.38Kingsleywell*
23:30.43Kingsleyi dont' liek lower quality vids
23:30.56Kingsleybut i'm not sure if its the processor, or memmory bandwidth
23:31.03Kingsleyi'm almost certain its the processor though
23:31.17Kingsleyits a pity they didn't use the PPC CPU for the zaurus
23:31.26Kingsleyxscale and armstrong dont' have an FPU
23:31.44Kingsleyand the xscale is clock-to-clock slower than the armstrong
23:31.47Kingsleywhich kinda suck
23:31.54Kingsleybut its very fast
23:31.55Rupert-Gilesno FPU boo
23:32.05Kingsleyplus they are two versions of the xscale
23:32.23Kingsleythey supposingly manage to clock the xscale to 1 Ghz
23:32.31Rupert-Gilesnice!
23:32.41Kingsleybut no PDA has that speed yet
23:32.46Kingsleythe fast is 56x Mhz
23:32.49Kingsleyfastest*
23:33.03Kingsleyanyway
23:33.25Rupert-Gilesopenssh for zaurus
23:33.26Rupert-Gileswicked
23:33.28Kingsleyi would have perfer it if they had used the embeded PPC CPU
23:33.34Kingsleylol
23:33.37Rupert-Gilesyeh
23:33.44Kingsleyyea, openssh comes standard on most zaurus rom
23:33.52Rupert-Gileskick ass
23:33.58Kingsleythats how i usually communciate with the zaurus to be honest
23:34.04Rupert-Gilesyou got like a seperate SD card?
23:34.07Kingsleyyup
23:34.12Rupert-Gilescool what you put on it
23:34.18Kingsleyright now nothing
23:34.20Rupert-Gilespr0nz animez?
23:34.21Rupert-Gileslol
23:34.24Kingsleyusually music though
23:34.34Kingsleythe zaurus also makes a good portable music player
23:34.38Rupert-Gilesyeh so i heard
23:34.43Kingsleyacutally
23:34.45Rupert-Gilesi'll be using mine as a music player
23:34.45Kingsleymost pdas do
23:34.49Rupert-Gilesis the sound good?
23:34.51Kingsleyalot of people use their pda as a music player
23:34.55Kingsleythe sound is resonable
23:35.05Kingsleyits not the best
23:35.11Kingsleybut it doesn't suck either
23:35.14Rupert-Gilescool
23:35.16Rupert-Gilesyou use xmms?
23:35.17Kingsleynot sure about the cl3000 though
23:35.20Kingsleyno
23:35.31Rupert-Gilesdude am gonna pwn some x11
23:35.32Rupert-Gileswith flux
23:35.36Kingsleyopie media player and sharp media player are much better than xmms
23:35.39Kingsleylol
23:35.43Rupert-Gilesheh
23:35.44Kingsleyx11 is kinda large
23:35.52Kingsleyopie is smaller, so thats why i use it
23:36.00Rupert-Gilesheh
23:36.07Kingsleyplus the interface is easier to use
23:36.07Rupert-Gilesis installing packages easy?
23:36.11Kingsleyon opie
23:36.14Kingsleyvery very very very easy
23:36.32Rupert-Gilescan you make opie look leet?
23:36.38Rupert-Gileswith wicked wallpapers?
23:36.38Kingsleyyea
23:36.41Kingsleyyup yup
23:36.43Rupert-Gilesheh
23:36.53Kingsleyyou're going to like this aren't ya
23:36.54Rupert-Gilesi wanna impress the ch1x0r
23:36.58Kingsleylol
23:36.59Rupert-Gilesheh
23:37.01Rupert-Giles;)
23:37.02Kingsleyhow old are you?
23:37.05Rupert-Gilesbrb mate
23:37.06Rupert-Giles21
23:37.10Kingsleyyou souund like a 15 year old
23:37.11KingsleyHA
23:37.14Kingsleymy age
23:37.22Rupert-Gilesyeh i know someone i know got me into leet speak
23:37.24Rupert-Gilesand i can't stop
23:37.27Rupert-Giles:D
23:38.53Kingsley......
23:39.00Kingsleygahhhh I hate leet
23:39.14Kingsleyanyway
23:39.15Kingsleyyea
23:39.29Kingsleyi can't find any decent site for zaurus software anymore
23:39.35Kingsleythey use to be tons of them
23:39.57Rupert-Gilesdoh
23:39.57Kingsleyi've just re-flash my zaurus with the openzaurus rom
23:40.02Kingsleybut i need software for it
23:40.03Rupert-Gileshmm
23:40.08Rupert-Gileswhich is best
23:40.11Kingsleymost notable a media player
23:40.12Kingsleyroms?
23:40.12Rupert-GilesOZ or the sharp
23:40.24Kingsleyopenzaurus is definitly better
23:40.27Kingsleyalthough
23:40.28Rupert-Gilesyeh?
23:40.33Kingsleythey are many roms out there
23:40.34Kingsleyyea
23:40.37Kingsleyplus
23:40.44Kingsleyyou wouldn't be able to run x11 on the default rom
23:40.49Rupert-Gilesno?!
23:40.50Rupert-Gilesboo
23:41.05Kingsleyyou dont' have control of some important defaults on teh default rom
23:41.12Kingsleyfor safty reasons mainly
23:41.17Kingsleylike you can't write on the root FS
23:41.24Rupert-Gilesboo
23:41.37Kingsleyyou'll need to use another rom if you want full control
23:41.43*** join/#zaurus Pendalar (Pendalar@h232.124.140.67.ip.alltel.net)
23:42.05KingsleyI've used familar, and openzaurus and thekompany
23:42.09Kingsleythose are the good ones
23:42.13Kingsleythey are a few others
23:42.16Rupert-Gilescool
23:42.21Rupert-Gilesyou got any screenies of your pda?
23:42.23Kingsleyahha
23:42.27Kingsleynope
23:42.31Rupert-Gilesdamn
23:42.33Kingsleyyea
23:42.34Kingsleywell
23:42.42Kingsleythe ones on the website you've showed me were much better
23:42.49Kingsleythey were running x11 it seems
23:42.50Rupert-Gilesyeh they got like quake
23:42.53Rupert-Gilesyup
23:42.57Kingsleyi didn't see any opie screenshots
23:42.58Kingsleyyea,
23:42.59Rupert-Gilesi seen one with xfce on it
23:43.04Kingsleyi got quake for the zaurus
23:43.10Kingsleyas i said
23:43.12Rupert-Gilescool does it run good?
23:43.12Kingsleyi dont' run x11
23:43.17Kingsleyits too bulky
23:43.21Rupert-Gileshmmm
23:43.27Kingsleyquake runs so so at 160x160
23:43.35Kingsleyopie is much smaller
23:43.39Kingsleybut has less applications
23:43.43Rupert-Gilescan you install stuff like that on seperate SD cards
23:43.49Kingsleyyea
23:44.02Rupert-Gilescool
23:44.04KingsleySD cards are slow though
23:44.09Rupert-Gilesyah
23:44.09KingsleyCF cards are much faster
23:44.13Rupert-Gilescool
23:44.29Kingsleyplus there is the CF mini-HD
23:44.35Kingsleythats sweet
23:44.37Rupert-Gilesnie
23:44.39Rupert-Gilesnice
23:44.42Kingsleybut expensive
23:44.48Kingsleyand i heard it overheats
23:44.55Rupert-Gileshmmm
23:45.18Kingsleydamn, those guys got firefox running on their zaurus
23:45.24Kingsleyand abiword
23:45.26Rupert-Gilesyeh that's damn leet
23:45.30Kingsleyi mean
23:45.37Kingsleyi can probably get it to run on mine
23:45.41Rupert-Gilescools
23:45.43*** part/#zaurus gerrynjr (~gerrynjr@gerrynjr.developer.gentoo)
23:45.47Kingsleybut it'll consume memory liek no tommorow
23:45.54Rupert-Gileshehe
23:46.26Rupert-Gilesi need like a GPRS card for mine
23:46.31Rupert-Gilesso i can pwn some net on the move
23:46.37Rupert-Gileswith out pwnin some wlan
23:46.38Rupert-Gileslolol
23:46.43Kingsleyhere i found some similar screenshots of what opie looks liek on my pda: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8170
23:46.50Kingsleyyea
23:47.01Kingsleyi was planning on getting a GPRS card for my laptop
23:47.11Kingsleybut they are very expensive
23:47.11Rupert-Gilesthat's pretty wicked
23:47.14Kingsleyand i'm poor
23:47.14Rupert-Gilesyeh i know
23:47.15Rupert-Giles:(
23:47.39*** join/#zaurus chuckr (~chatzilla@july.chuckr.org)
23:47.51Rupert-Gilesopie is nice
23:47.55Kingsleyyea
23:47.59Rupert-Gileslots of icons hide the leet wallpaper :|
23:48.05Kingsleyits very easy to use with just the touch screen
23:48.19Rupert-Gilesyou got a usb connector
23:48.25Kingsleyyea
23:48.32Rupert-Gilescan you like connect usb mice n stuff?
23:48.34Kingsleyfor the dock
23:48.35Kingsleyno
23:48.38Rupert-Gileshmm
23:48.47Kingsleythere is no standard usb port on my zaurus
23:48.57Kingsleyi dont think there is one for the clxxx either
23:49.06Kingsleywhich sucks badly
23:49.29Kingsleycause a standard usb port will be @#$@#$ awesome
23:49.34Rupert-Gilesyeh
23:49.36Kingsleyyou'll be able to connect it to a printer
23:49.45Kingsleyand a camera
23:49.49Rupert-Gileshow do you get software onto yours?
23:49.51Kingsleyand a shit load of stuff
23:49.51Kingsley!
23:49.55Kingsleyssh
23:50.01Rupert-Gileswlan?
23:50.02Kingsleyi use scp and ssh
23:50.08Kingsleyno, usb-net
23:50.11Rupert-Gilesahh
23:50.12Rupert-Gilescool
23:50.22Kingsley!
23:50.32Kingsleyi think there is a CF usb card available
23:50.44Kingsleyso, that might help with the USB situation
23:51.57Kingsleythe clxxx looks nice
23:51.58Rupert-Gilesyeh
23:52.03Rupert-Giles;)
23:52.10Kingsleyvery tempting
23:52.18Rupert-Gilesyeh i think you should buy one
23:52.19Rupert-Giles:P
23:52.33Kingsleyahha
23:52.35Kingsleytoo expensive
23:52.40Rupert-Gilesheh
23:52.42Kingsleyi rather by a T30
23:52.46Kingsleyor T31
23:52.50Rupert-Gileshmmm
23:52.54Kingsleyalthough i'm trying to save up for a T40
23:53.01Rupert-Gilescool
23:53.09Kingsleyas i said
23:53.27KingsleyI end up doing most of my work on my laptop anyway
23:53.34Kingsleysorry
23:53.39Kingsleyi mean the X40
23:53.40Rupert-Gilesyeh my crapaq presario is sweet
23:53.41Kingsleyand X30
23:53.54KingsleyI own a T22 now
23:53.56Kingsleyand its nice
23:54.06Rupert-Gilescool
23:54.08Kingsleyit has all the features i need/use
23:54.33Kingsleythe the X40 is the smallest fullfunction laptop, with a non-cramp keyboard
23:54.33Rupert-Gilesare the zaurus'es built good?! are the durable
23:54.40Kingsleyyes
23:54.43Rupert-Gilescool
23:54.43Kingsleydefinitly
23:54.57Kingsleywhen you hold them in your hands
23:55.02Kingsleyyou see a well built machine
23:55.05Rupert-Gilescool
23:55.15Kingsleythats one of their strong points
23:55.44Kingsleybut i scratch my screen ;-(
23:55.48Rupert-Gilesdoh
23:55.50Rupert-Giles:(
23:55.54Rupert-Gilesam gonna try and not do that ;D
23:55.57Kingsleylol
23:56.10Kingsleybuy a thin plastic flim for it
23:56.17Rupert-Gilesyeh
23:56.59Rupert-Gilesthey so should have had built in wifi
23:57.16Kingsleythe clxxx have built in wifi i think
23:57.18Kingsleynot sure
23:57.22Rupert-Gileswhat kinda battery life?
23:58.05Kingsleyright now
23:58.09Kingsleyits not too good
23:58.12Rupert-Gilesdoh
23:58.12Kingsleywhen i bought it
23:58.19Kingsleyit was very good
23:58.26Kingsleyaround 3 days with regular usage
23:58.33Rupert-Gilescool
23:58.35Kingsleyyour's will probably have less
23:58.43Kingsleycause it uses a faster processor + bigger display
23:59.14Rupert-Gilesyeh
23:59.17Kingsleyanyway
23:59.27Rupert-Gileswhat display size does your 55oo have
23:59.33Rupert-Giles*5500
23:59.34Kingsley320x240
23:59.40Rupert-Gilesahh
23:59.53Kingsleyyour's has 640x480
23:59.57Rupert-Gilesyeh
23:59.59Rupert-Gilesi read that

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