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| 01:49.29 | bferrell | Hi all |
| 01:49.45 | bferrell | I'm looking for the openzaurus roms for a b500 |
| 01:50.12 | bferrell | Oops wrong room |
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| 01:52.26 | bferrell | anyone in here really? |
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| 03:41.34 | aTypical | Hello, bugix. |
| 03:50.29 | netsplit | Finally! I got to the console on the Sharp ROM. |
| 03:50.45 | netsplit | Only took me a day of googling and fiddling :) |
| 03:55.47 | aTypical | lol. There are a couple of really great sites for the Z. |
| 03:56.16 | aTypical | myzaurus.com and www.zaurususergroup.com |
| 03:59.37 | netsplit | Ya know, I've been to them and have found very little useful it seems. |
| 04:00.15 | aTypical | Really? killefiz.com.uk (or something like that) is great for software. |
| 04:00.31 | aTypical | What do you think of the SL-6000L? |
| 04:00.38 | netsplit | myzaurus.com doesn't seem to think that the 6000L exists. |
| 04:01.09 | netsplit | I don't know. |
| 04:01.17 | netsplit | I wish it were more transparent. |
| 04:01.18 | aTypical | Are you sure? |
| 04:01.29 | aTypical | What do you mean transparent? |
| 04:01.30 | netsplit | I can't figure out how to do anything with it on the command line. |
| 04:01.55 | aTypical | netsplit, are you a Linux user? |
| 04:02.06 | netsplit | I want a guide that tells me how it works under the hood. |
| 04:02.12 | netsplit | FBSD atm. |
| 04:02.56 | netsplit | I completely mutilated /etc/inittab yesterday to no noticeable effect. |
| 04:04.23 | netsplit | Now I'm staring at the console and asking myself how it starts wireless. |
| 04:04.30 | aTypical | Damn! Amazon wants 23% interest on its credit cards. Fsck that. |
| 04:04.43 | netsplit | ifconfig -a doesn't show any device other than lo. |
| 04:05.36 | aTypical | That's strange. |
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| 04:06.04 | netsplit | Does it show anything else for you? |
| 04:07.34 | netsplit | Actually, maybe the kernel module isn't loaded. /me looks for it. |
| 04:11.18 | Terminator | netsplit: try connecting w/ the GUI network-connection manager, then running ifconfig to get wlan0 as the 802.11b interface |
| 04:12.23 | Terminator | now, as for enabling it from the command-line... I'm sure it can be done, I've done it on my Linux laptop before (I've run FBSD before quite a bit, but never done wireless networking w/ it). try looking at the "iwconfig" command |
| 04:12.47 | Terminator | and iwevent, iwlist, iwpriv, and iwspy |
| 04:13.14 | aTypical | Terminator, which Z/ROM are you using? |
| 04:13.33 | Terminator | the default Sharp ROM on the 6000L |
| 04:13.48 | Terminator | I can look up the version if you want.. |
| 04:13.50 | Terminator | .. |
| 04:14.11 | aTypical | No, that's OK. How do you like it? |
| 04:14.11 | netsplit | Eh, I don't want to start qpe :/ :P |
| 04:15.02 | Terminator | netsplit: lol. How do you start up w/o QPE? (in runlevel 3 or 4, I think?) |
| 04:15.09 | Terminator | aTypical: I love my Z :) |
| 04:15.30 | netsplit | I'm telling you, I mutilated /etc/inittab and it would still start in runlevel 5. |
| 04:15.40 | netsplit | I had to kill qpe after boot. |
| 04:15.45 | aTypical | I really like my 5500, but the screen is dark compared to my Tungsten. |
| 04:15.50 | Terminator | I just need to get zRoadmap and a few maps on there, and get a TTS app to read me Plucker-formatted files and text files (and maybe HTML) and I'll be all set |
| 04:16.02 | netsplit | What's TTS? |
| 04:16.21 | Terminator | well, I'd like a better media player too -- something like XMMS or Winamp, but for QPE (XMMS has been ported to the Z, but I believe you need X to run it) |
| 04:16.26 | Terminator | TTS = "text-to-speech" |
| 04:17.03 | Terminator | so I can have my various books from Gutenberg, etc. read to me while I commute. No sense in wasting 1 hour/day merely watching the scenery fly by, or by listening to the crappy radio that's out there... :) |
| 04:17.46 | netsplit | Gutenberg does have a few audio files already, but their selection is very limited. |
| 04:21.55 | Terminator | netsplit: yeah, it is |
| 04:22.03 | Terminator | there are books elsewhere online though too |
| 04:22.12 | netsplit | Uh oh, I've now lost my prompt in console. |
| 04:22.20 | Terminator | ! |
| 04:22.31 | Terminator | you're on your own from here... ;) |
| 04:22.53 | netsplit | I'm used to hard resetting it by now ;) |
| 04:23.30 | netsplit | You've heard of people running off of their SD/CF card? |
| 04:23.50 | netsplit | Those cards are their root partition. |
| 04:23.57 | Terminator | when in doubt though, don't be too afraid to format your Z. After my SD card wouldn't be recognized (and display an icon in QPE to "eject" the card (i.e. sync the filesystem and unmount it)), I did this and now Everything Works (R) |
| 04:24.21 | netsplit | I figure I get myself a card, get into console and chroot it. |
| 04:24.41 | netsplit | Put Debian-arm's glibc and co on it, and I'll have Debian ... *dreams*. |
| 04:25.14 | netsplit | That's item 3 or 4 in the maintenance menu? |
| 04:25.23 | netsplit | Actually, how do you transfer stuff then? |
| 04:25.29 | Terminator | netsplit: format? I think it's 4 |
| 04:25.39 | Terminator | check your manual, pg. 88, IIRC |
| 04:25.48 | netsplit | I need a terminal to do anything, and the Sharp ROM doesn't come with one, so I ended up booting into Windows. |
| 04:25.58 | Terminator | netsplit: a terminal comes on the Sharp CD |
| 04:26.07 | netsplit | A real sacrilege I tell you. |
| 04:26.17 | Terminator | there's a slightly-better terminal out there though |
| 04:26.21 | Terminator | both are QPE based |
| 04:26.42 | netsplit | Yes I know it's on the CD. I had to boot into Windows to transfer it from the CD. |
| 04:26.53 | Terminator | "MyKonsole" it's called... |
| 04:28.33 | netsplit | You've installed MyKonsole? |
| 04:29.14 | Terminator | yeah - it's basically Sharp's "Terminal", but with tabbing ability and a longer list of point-n-click commands (the list of which can also be edited) |
| 04:29.29 | netsplit | I'll have to try downloading it next time I'm in Opera. |
| 04:29.41 | netsplit | Ohh @ tabbing. |
| 04:29.49 | Terminator | if you can't find it, I can probably DCC it to you or something |
| 04:30.02 | netsplit | Well, I don't need a list of point-n-click commands. |
| 04:30.08 | Terminator | me either :) |
| 04:30.34 | Terminator | actually, the point-n-click commands are kind of annoying. I can type out what I want in the same time it takes me to search the list for the command |
| 04:30.41 | Terminator | (the command I want) |
| 04:30.42 | netsplit | Yeah. |
| 04:31.00 | netsplit | Takes a lot of space at the top of the screen too. |
| 04:31.31 | Terminator | unless it's one I know I'm going to use repeatedly, e.g. opening multiple shells in the same terminal and needing to exit them (e.g. going from a root shell to a zaurus shell to exiting the terminal) |
| 04:31.53 | Terminator | yes... and that's why I mostly don't use it :) |
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| 04:32.07 | netsplit | What? |
| 04:32.16 | netsplit | That's just pressing ^d a few times? |
| 04:32.32 | Terminator | I tried getting aterm to work too, but I think that was compiled for some other GUI libs, not Qtopia |
| 04:32.58 | Terminator | hmm, I've always typed "exit" or "logout" when I want to exit a shell |
| 04:33.40 | netsplit | Actually, no sure whether it works on the Zaurus, but normally, ^d will exit. |
| 04:41.48 | netsplit | Does your Zaurus ask you to set the time everytime you boot? |
| 04:43.40 | Terminator | netsplit: I don't recall. I think so... |
| 04:43.52 | Terminator | (funny, b/c I've rebooted enough that I *should* know) |
| 04:44.45 | netsplit | I just installed MyKonsole. Thanks for the recommendation. |
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| 04:51.23 | Terminator | netsplit: no problem :) |
| 05:29.52 | aTypical | Anyone know how to do a <right-click> on the Z? |
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| 05:30.29 | ggg | any girl |
| 05:30.35 | Terminator | aTypical: press and hold on the icon until a window comes up? |
| 05:30.54 | Terminator | that's how I change the resolution of 5x00 apps I run on my 6000L |
| 05:30.59 | aTypical | Thanks |
| 05:31.22 | Terminator | I don't know if that's really the right-click technique, but it might be :) |
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| 05:32.22 | Pendalar | hold the stylus in your left hand |
| 05:35.18 | netsplit | lol @ Pendalar. |
| 05:35.23 | aTypical | Nope, didn't work. |
| 05:35.40 | Pendalar | your other left hand |
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| 05:37.15 | netsplit | Hmm ... /me needs a script to download Debian packages. |
| 05:38.31 | Pendalar | apt? |
| 05:39.16 | netsplit | That's a really good point hehe. |
| 05:39.30 | netsplit | Hmm ... apt on NetBSD you think? |
| 05:40.08 | netsplit | I just want something that takes two arguments, the package name and the name of the repository (stable, unstable, testing), and it downloads it. |
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| 07:05.24 | JrHacker | Hello. I have a Sharp Zaurus 5500 which I am trying to hook up to my winxp box in order to transfer files. The network connection is fine (I can ping my Z), but the desktop software refuses to see the zaurus. I have read all the documentation I can get my hands on, as well as numerous FAQs, and have done Google searches galore. Does anyone have any suggestions? |
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