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| 01:04.48 | willie | can somebody help with a wi-fi card prob? Nl-2511CF bought sealed of Ebay, I think its a rebadged Senao. Card is not recognised on insertion to the Z however cardctl ident gives useful(?) information. I have tried editing wlan-ng.conf with no joy. I don't have anyone local with another CF slot device so I cant definately confirm the card is OK. Anything else I can try before I complain bitterly to the seller? |
| 01:07.13 | zipf | willie: what does 'cardctl scheme' say? |
| 01:07.27 | willie | let me check |
| 01:08.10 | willie | default |
| 01:08.52 | zipf | try cardctl scheme CardResume |
| 01:08.58 | willie | ok |
| 01:10.16 | willie | device or resource busy |
| 01:11.24 | zipf | try cardctl eject && cardctl insert |
| 01:12.39 | willie | done still 'Device or resource busy' |
| 01:13.15 | zipf | try cardctl reset and if that does not help remove the card and reinsert it |
| 01:13.36 | willie | ok ta |
| 01:15.20 | willie | nope still no we CF icon |
| 01:16.49 | zipf | hehe, the icon comes at the very end, look at ifconfig and iwconfig first |
| 01:17.05 | willie | ah |
| 01:17.07 | willie | ok |
| 01:17.52 | willie | nah no eth0 or anything but lo |
| 01:18.22 | zipf | assuming cardctl scheme is CardResume, does ifconfig eth0 say anything? |
| 01:18.35 | willie | gimme a min |
| 01:19.24 | willie | can you give me the exact syntax for Card Resume -- sorry dumb noob here |
| 01:19.30 | willie | thx |
| 01:20.16 | zipf | when you type 'cardctl scheme', does it say Current scheme: 'CardResume'.? |
| 01:20.18 | willie | cardctl -f CardResume? |
| 01:20.47 | willie | default still |
| 01:21.14 | zipf | ok, type 'cardctl scheme CardResume' |
| 01:22.03 | willie | ok its acknowledged the scheme change |
| 01:22.21 | zipf | good, no type 'ifconfig eth0' |
| 01:23.03 | willie | @error fetching interface information: Device not found' |
| 01:23.48 | willie | cardctl ident finds it OK thought |
| 01:23.54 | zipf | type 'lsmod' and see if there is anything that sounds like a wireless driver |
| 01:25.10 | willie | Socket0: product info "WLAN"' "11Mbps_PC-Card_3.0", "ISL37100P", "Eval-RevA" |
| 01:25.27 | willie | and thats what I put in wlan-ng.conf |
| 01:25.30 | willie | lsmod now |
| 01:26.01 | willie | prism2_cs unused |
| 01:26.30 | willie | p80211 [prism2_cs] |
| 01:27.09 | zipf | hmm, is this a prism3 card? i think only 2 and 2.5 are supported |
| 01:27.12 | willie | IIRC I modprobed prism2_cs last night |
| 01:27.21 | willie | should I reboot |
| 01:27.23 | willie | ? |
| 01:27.34 | zipf | no, this is not windows... ;) |
| 01:27.43 | willie | true |
| 01:27.49 | zipf | can you 'rmmod prism2_cs'? |
| 01:28.16 | willie | should I rmmod prism2_cs and reinsert the card to see does it pick it up automagically? |
| 01:28.22 | willie | heheh |
| 01:28.37 | willie | head down typing :-) |
| 01:29.17 | zipf | no need to reinsert the card |
| 01:29.25 | zipf | do you have a file /etc/pcmcia/config ? |
| 01:29.40 | willie | 1 min |
| 01:30.38 | willie | yep with various card def'ns |
| 01:31.01 | willie | just checking what it includes |
| 01:31.34 | zipf | ok, you will probably need to edit this file and add a new entry for your card with the string you see with 'cardctl ident' and manfid or version etc |
| 01:31.59 | zipf | and guess the right driver or try all of them until one works |
| 01:32.03 | willie | NOT wlan-ng.conf ? |
| 01:32.48 | zipf | in which directory does this wlan-ng.conf live and what package does it belong to? |
| 01:33.17 | willie | /etc/pcmcia |
| 01:33.51 | willie | dunno what pkg, Ihavent loaded much onto it yet |
| 01:34.05 | zipf | strange, i have no such file here |
| 01:34.29 | willie | this is a SL-5600 BTW std ROM |
| 01:35.19 | willie | I cant sync it with the cradle either I have a (nearly) strictly linux shop here and thje only Win box has no USB ports :-( |
| 01:35.50 | willie | so it is pretty much as it out of the box |
| 01:36.16 | willie | I used a mates dual boot laptop to get some music onto it |
| 01:36.36 | willie | so it is used as a low capacity iPod right now :-) |
| 01:36.39 | zipf | i'm pretty sure adding an entry to /etc/pcmcia/config is the right way to fix it |
| 01:36.49 | willie | seems reasonable |
| 01:37.04 | willie | Ill edit that and see how it goes |
| 01:37.19 | willie | thanks for your assistance back later |
| 01:37.30 | zipf | good luck.. :) |
| 01:43.04 | willie | well this is Jura |
| 01:43.14 | willie | and its nearly finished :-) |
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| 01:48.54 | kairi | whoops |
| 01:50.42 | absentia | re |
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| 01:53.51 | eargang | 'lo? |
| 01:54.48 | tan | my 6000 goes dark in the charging station. I want it to be plugged in with a bright screen so I can still see it. Any thoughts? |
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| 01:55.05 | tan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.03 | MG_Tak | tan: I don't have a 5600.. but is there in the control panel stuff something about power consumption? |
| 01:56.39 | eargang | thats my guess |
| 01:56.48 | eargang | OZ has a on Battery/on AC tab |
| 01:56.52 | eargang | on the light and power panel. |
| 01:57.12 | eargang | i'm remembering the sharp rom having that too, so it's probably a good place to look |
| 01:57.14 | tan | OH duh!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, there is a 2nd light power slider for "external power" that happened to be slid off. |
| 01:57.40 | kairi | heh, tan. |
| 01:58.44 | tan | I claimed I was super good looking, not smart! |
| 01:59.36 | tan | It was actually kind of confusing. You dock it and the whole thing just automatically went dark. Pull out, it goes bright. Who knew? |
| 02:02.08 | kairi | Snicker. |
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| 02:11.16 | eargang | rebooting feels so... dirty. |
| 02:11.23 | eargang | reminds me of windows 95. |
| 02:11.38 | absentia | ha |
| 02:11.45 | absentia | get a ms cell phone |
| 02:11.48 | absentia | have to reboot after 2 calls |
| 02:12.05 | eargang | i'd rather get some root canal surgery. |
| 02:12.11 | eargang | but thanks for the idea =) |
| 02:13.04 | eargang | make. this. work. |
| 02:16.23 | eargang | on OZ... what's the default connection method? smb? |
| 02:16.32 | eargang | i know its ftp on ye olde roms. |
| 02:25.42 | tan | All the 6000 reviews out there, not ONE mentioned the new extended support for dual light settings configurable by power source! These reviewers are really slacking... |
| 02:26.12 | eargang | buncha hacks. |
| 02:26.16 | eargang | is the 6000 worth it? |
| 02:27.11 | eargang | ok sweet, i'm sshd in. |
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| 03:16.45 | vvff | tan: Well, OZ could do that already... :-D |
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| 03:25.25 | tan | Yes, but can OZ do that in such vivid detail? i think not... |
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| 03:33.19 | SubNuke | SharpROM on 5600 could do that already too. |
| 03:33.42 | SubNuke | 1.32 |
| 03:34.41 | SubNuke | very... vividly. |
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| 04:16.16 | pole|Z | anyone have any suggestions on how to download files in konqurer? |
| 04:16.56 | kairi | The snapshot? |
| 04:17.19 | pole|Z | no, whatever is in opie 1.x |
| 04:17.27 | kairi | Nod |
| 04:17.34 | pole|Z | the zaurus opie feed |
| 04:17.44 | pole|Z | for gcc 3.2 |
| 04:17.52 | kairi | It's pretty sketchy, I just tap a link and hit stop as soon as possible, then copy & paste the URL into wget, though I'm sure that's not the answer you were looking for |
| 04:18.14 | pole|Z | that is how i am doing it atm and it sucks |
| 04:18.29 | kairi | Nod :_/ |
| 04:19.00 | kairi | I wouldn't imagine it would be very difficult to implement. |
| 04:19.08 | pole|Z | like holding down liks should download them, or at least copy the link |
| 04:19.24 | kairi | Aye, definately |
| 04:21.33 | kairi | I wonder if installing some more fonts would help the situation, but I doubt it :-/ |
| 04:22.05 | pole|Z | arg, this sucks... |
| 04:22.22 | pole|Z | i cant even read any pdf files i tried yet |
| 04:22.40 | kairi | the only one I've tried was the ARM Quick Reference Card :-/ |
| 04:23.20 | pole|Z | im trying to read my homework solutions for math |
| 04:23.44 | pole|Z | but of course i cant read anything in the documents |
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| 04:30.20 | pole|Z | anyone have pdf2 compiled with gcc 3.2? |
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| 04:38.36 | pole|Z | T_T |
| 04:39.37 | pole|Z | useless pos... |
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| 05:00.28 | swoolley | hi kairi |
| 05:00.37 | kairi | hi swoolley |
| 05:01.11 | kairi | Was ist los? |
| 05:01.35 | swoolley | gut |
| 05:02.49 | kairi | Not the most appropriate answer, but good enough :) Excellent. |
| 05:02.51 | swoolley | nine ist los. |
| 05:03.15 | swoolley | or something negative. |
| 05:03.26 | kairi | Aye. |
| 05:03.52 | swoolley | nicht |
| 05:04.07 | swoolley | my wife is sick though |
| 05:04.32 | kairi | That's no good. :'( |
| 05:04.43 | swoolley | just a cold. |
| 05:04.51 | swoolley | she should be getting over it soon. |
| 05:05.36 | swoolley | lost a harddrive last week, so I'm spending part of my weekend moving, reorganizing, and rebuilding things |
| 05:07.45 | kairi | It's amazing what opportunities for reinventing your environment you are afforded when you lose an entire 40GB hard drive. |
| 05:07.54 | swoolley | I lost a 120 gig. |
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| 05:08.17 | swoolley | three weeks out of the one year warranty |
| 05:08.22 | kairi | Ouchx0r. |
| 05:09.25 | swoolley | fortunately, I was able to dd the whole image piped through gzip onto an 80 gig drive. |
| 05:10.12 | swoolley | I can't remount it though until I get another drive big enough to fit it uncompressed. |
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| 12:52.30 | synth | anyone use kingmax SD media? |
| 12:53.09 | rgrep | no but anything is better than SanDisk :) |
| 12:53.25 | synth | hehe |
| 12:53.43 | synth | newegg.com has 18mb kingmax SD for 43 bucks |
| 12:53.56 | synth | er |
| 12:53.57 | synth | 128 |
| 12:54.01 | synth | big diff there heh |
| 12:55.24 | rgrep | if you get one, make sure you do a badblock scan as soon as it arrives |
| 12:55.41 | synth | why's that |
| 12:56.58 | rgrep | i had a SanDisk 256MB card that kept going corrupt on me |
| 12:57.18 | rgrep | it had been happening ever since i got it but because i had only just got my zaurus i didn't know what was causing the problem |
| 12:57.42 | rgrep | when i eventually did a badblock scan, i found that only the first 108MB was free of bad blocks |
| 12:58.13 | rgrep | so i partitioned it off so i could only use the first 108MB and it worked like a charm. of course i returned it to sandisk and got my money back and bought a Kingston. |
| 12:58.34 | rgrep | but i suffered with that card for a few months before i realised i could just badblock scan it. |
| 13:15.27 | synth | it had bad blocks too? |
| 13:17.57 | rgrep | no sorry my last message was still about the SanDisk card. |
| 13:18.04 | rgrep | my 512MB Kingston was perfect. |
| 13:18.15 | rgrep | it didn't have any badblocks at all |
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| 14:06.23 | HazzaUK | Anyone seen anything about wifi card going in to suspend immediatly after insertion? |
| 14:07.45 | zipf | try 'cardctl scheme CardResume' from a shell and see if it helps |
| 14:11.39 | HazzaUK | cheers |
| 14:11.49 | zipf | :) |
| 14:11.57 | HazzaUK | this cf card stuff is all new to me ;p |
| 14:12.03 | absentia | :-) |
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| 15:58.44 | George | I NEED FOOOOOOD!!!! |
| 16:00.05 | HazzaUK | anyone got a link to the original ROMs for C860? |
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| 18:18.38 | absentia | what's the best way to back up personal data at home these days? |
| 18:18.44 | absentia | I need to back up like 200 GB |
| 18:18.49 | absentia | and I don't want to do it disk to disk |
| 18:18.57 | absentia | I need portable/removable media |
| 18:22.45 | sashz | 200G?? brr 250 CD-Rs? :) |
| 18:23.41 | zipf | externel firewire or usb2 hard drive is the only practical option |
| 18:30.40 | absentia | ya |
| 18:30.47 | absentia | I just upgraded to dvds... that's a 6x reduction |
| 18:30.56 | absentia | my backups use to take 40CDs just for my home dir |
| 18:31.02 | absentia | now I'm down to like 7 dvds.. so that's an improvement |
| 18:31.18 | absentia | ya, I think the only thing to do is get an external drive... |
| 18:31.45 | absentia | but I'm thinking, even if I did differential backups, I'd have at least 20GB a day .... so I'm trying to covert my data to split, active and mostly static |
| 18:32.39 | absentia | look at spy |
| 18:32.41 | absentia | 160GB disk on there |
| 18:32.46 | absentia | how could I possible back that up? |
| 18:32.49 | absentia | it's remote |
| 18:33.15 | absentia | I could buy another site there, one of their 200GB storage only, or something.. and then just xfer files to and from that second site, etc... just seems strange. |
| 18:33.18 | sashz | mount as NFS and copy |
| 18:33.23 | absentia | nfs is unreliable |
| 18:33.26 | sashz | cp -a src trg |
| 18:33.28 | absentia | I actually use "rsync" |
| 18:33.41 | absentia | I can rsync down at 500K+/sec |
| 18:33.56 | absentia | so I actually have a copy of the spy.org at home (but not of the cacko, etc... just of my come directory) |
| 18:34.09 | sashz | all another will lost? |
| 18:34.28 | absentia | well, no way to back it up. I spoke with laze, and he says ths stuff there is a copy... etc. |
| 18:34.37 | absentia | but I want to make sure I don't lose any of the zaurus stuff |
| 18:34.37 | sashz | aha ok :) |
| 18:34.56 | absentia | it's like, if only one zaurus.com or only one zug or only one killefiz.de = bad |
| 18:35.00 | sashz | because now laze on party so i cant say it him |
| 18:35.18 | absentia | let me check your usage |
| 18:40.47 | absentia | cacko is only 3.5GB |
| 18:40.54 | absentia | so I could dl that and back it up |
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| 19:54.53 | kairi | Merry Mother's Day! ^____^ |
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| 22:49.12 | jazzanova | hi |
| 23:22.39 | jazzanova | i can't mount a cramfs image, and my kernel config says that cramfs support is compiled in. |
| 23:23.00 | jazzanova | does this mean I have a corrupt ROM image? |
| 23:23.49 | zipf | what is the error msg? |
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| 23:25.09 | jazzanova | wrong fs |
| 23:25.22 | jazzanova | basically, mount can't mount it |
| 23:25.41 | jazzanova | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.53 | jazzanova | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0 |
| 23:27.02 | jazzanova | rw------- 1 boris boris 16777216 May 6 01:21 OSPACK |
| 23:27.03 | zipf | and you manually did loseup before mount? |
| 23:27.38 | jazzanova | yes, i did this\ |
| 23:27.40 | jazzanova | losetup -o 1835008 /dev/loop0 |
| 23:27.54 | jazzanova | losetup -o 1835008 /dev/loop0 OSPACK |
| 23:28.17 | zipf | what is -o 1835008 supposed to do? |
| 23:28.45 | zipf | ah, offset... |
| 23:29.03 | jazzanova | also, where do I grab a kernel to compile ? |
| 23:29.22 | jazzanova | all i need is support for my Socket card (orinoco driver) |
| 23:30.45 | zipf | anyway i would try mount -oloop,ro,offset=1835008 OSPACK /mnt/z and see if it gives the same error |
| 23:31.34 | jazzanova | wow, that worked ! coool :) |
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| 23:37.37 | jazzanova | thanks! |
| 23:41.14 | zipf | did it work? |
| 23:41.44 | jazzanova | yes |
| 23:42.35 | jazzanova | next step is the kernel |
| 23:43.07 | zipf | all orinoco compatible cards should work without problem |
| 23:45.25 | jazzanova | oh, the drivers are compiled in ? |
| 23:45.48 | jazzanova | already, in the default rom ? |
| 23:46.28 | zipf | what happens when you insert the card? |
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| 23:47.04 | jazzanova | i haven't tried it really |
| 23:47.12 | zipf | hehe :) |
| 23:47.14 | jazzanova | nothing happens, |
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| 23:47.22 | jazzanova | well i wasn't running a default rom |
| 23:47.28 | jazzanova | i was running a debian thing |
| 23:47.42 | zipf | nobody runs the default rom |
| 23:48.04 | jazzanova | which rom do you think will have the drivers ? |
| 23:48.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I do, since I can't flash anything with an SD card, it's gotta be a CF card :P |
| 23:48.40 | jazzanova | i thought it is possible to flash with a CF card |
| 23:48.55 | ScytheBlade1 | only the default ROM so far from what I've seen |
| 23:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | it's on a lot of "TODO" lists but nothing more that I can fine |
| 23:49.05 | ScytheBlade1 | *find |
| 23:49.39 | jazzanova | scytheb: you mean support for orinoco ? |
| 23:49.50 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 23:50.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean flashing any ROM onto it via SD card, the only one that I can find that has SD-flash support is the default ROM |
| 23:50.15 | zipf | all existing roms support orinoco |
| 23:51.03 | godless | cacko=pdaXrom ? |
| 23:51.11 | jazzanova | i have a Socket Symbol Low Power card, have you heard of it ? |
| 23:51.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I have |
| 23:51.22 | ScytheBlade1 | which version? old or new? |
| 23:51.36 | jazzanova | i don't know how to check |
| 23:51.42 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
| 23:51.49 | jazzanova | So it is working for you ? |
| 23:52.23 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.socketcom.com/support/support_wlan.asp |
| 23:52.33 | ScytheBlade1 | which one (left side) do you have? |
| 23:53.07 | ScytheBlade1 | or, heh |
| 23:53.07 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.socketcom.com/support/support_wlan.asp?Type=CF |
| 23:53.10 | jazzanova | the one on the far left |
| 23:53.21 | ScytheBlade1 | yay |
| 23:53.23 | ScytheBlade1 | you've got drivers |
| 23:53.35 | jazzanova | previous version :) |
| 23:53.43 | jazzanova | Yahoo ! |
| 23:53.46 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=197 |
| 23:54.30 | jazzanova | ok, so if I take cacko ROM say, things will start working for me, eh ? |
| 23:55.00 | ScytheBlade1 | no idea |
| 23:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm stuck on the default ROM :P |
| 23:55.20 | jazzanova | i want to play chess on the Z |
| 23:55.43 | jazzanova | thats why I am heading in the direction of having a debian system |
| 23:56.15 | jazzanova | Scythe: so when you insert the card, the driver is loaded automatically and you see it in 'dmesg' ? |
| 23:56.36 | zipf | i just installed gnuchess, crafty, xboard and eboard, all ruuning well under the x rom ;) |
| 23:56.38 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 23:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I said I had heard of it |
| 23:56.52 | ScytheBlade1 | and knew a bit about the driver |
| 23:56.54 | ScytheBlade1 | not much else ;) |
| 23:56.56 | jazzanova | x - rom ? whoa, that sounds cool |
| 23:57.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't actually have one - tho I wish I did |
| 23:58.17 | jazzanova | what is an x rom ? |
| 23:58.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ROM that uses X as it's basis |
| 23:58.40 | zipf | no qtopia :) |
| 23:58.49 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 23:58.53 | ScytheBlade1 | question for everyone here |
| 23:58.59 | ScytheBlade1 | if they can answer it, if they wish |
| 23:59.06 | jazzanova | ok, i didn't know that qtopia can run x apps |
| 23:59.11 | ScytheBlade1 | it's worth me sending them "scbeta.iso" - original StarCraft beta |
| 23:59.26 | zipf | it cant |
| 23:59.38 | jazzanova | so you recompiled them ? |
| 23:59.44 | ScytheBlade1 | So, is there a ROM out there that will install via SD card and run Opera/GAIM? |
| 23:59.44 | zipf | yes |