| 00:00.07 | absentia | ? |
| 00:00.10 | absentia | what use is that? |
| 00:00.36 | ChipX86 | not having to go to a buddy list to see if someone is online. It integrates the buddy list and other similar services into your desktop and apps |
| 00:00.37 | treke | I could see that fitting in well with evolution |
| 00:00.41 | ChipX86 | treke: yeah |
| 00:00.55 | absentia | I guess I just don't get it. |
| 00:01.01 | ChipX86 | that's okay |
| 00:01.01 | absentia | which wouldn't be the fifrst itme. |
| 00:01.19 | treke | Off hand I cant think of a whole lot of uses for it, but some :) |
| 00:01.25 | ChipX86 | it's not a ground-breaking, revolutionary system. It's just a little nice touch that integrates things just a little more |
| 00:01.30 | absentia | a |
| 00:01.30 | absentia | ah |
| 00:01.31 | absentia | k |
| 00:02.05 | ChipX86 | but the idea is to make it work with KDE and GNOME. We'll be using it gnome, but I haven't talked to the KDE guys yet |
| 00:03.27 | treke | absentia, When i used KDE, it had more integration in the XP sense where everything pops up in everything elses windows, but I've never really liked that much :) |
| 00:03.38 | treke | the stuff I wanted integration in just didnt do it :) |
| 00:05.40 | ChipX86 | what a lot of us are hoping for is cross-desktop standards, using freedesktop.org standards.. the problem is that a lot of KDE guys are against supporting them, for who knows what reason :/ |
| 00:06.12 | ChipX86 | I'd love to see the same technologies accessible regardless of desktop preference, instead of a lot of reinventions of the wheel |
| 00:06.21 | treke | because they arent written in C++ using QT? :p |
| 00:06.26 | ChipX86 | yeah, basicalyl... |
| 00:07.14 | treke | though I cant say I'm too happy with the way both gnome and kde approached vfs stuff. KDEs at least has some legacy support now |
| 00:07.29 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 00:07.31 | absentia | vfs? |
| 00:07.39 | treke | absentia, virtual file systems |
| 00:07.51 | ChipX86 | I'd like to see a system-wide standard there |
| 00:07.56 | ChipX86 | something really well thought-out |
| 00:08.40 | treke | I dunno how that would ever work short of being something like lufs |
| 00:08.53 | ChipX86 | yeah.. |
| 00:16.37 | treke | haircut time. |
| 00:17.21 | treke | I've needed one for 2 weeks :) |
| 00:17.33 | absentia | well, maybe 1 month. |
| 00:17.48 | absentia | and I broke my second braun syncro |
| 00:17.56 | absentia | I need to find an electric shaver that works |
| 00:18.00 | absentia | doesn't go dull in no time |
| 00:18.01 | absentia | and doesn't break |
| 00:18.10 | absentia | no more brauns, though.. they cut nicely, but they all break |
| 00:23.54 | panyo | Getting dark enough here to go out and use Sky Explorer. time to go, maybe will figure out lifes questions some other time. |
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| 00:51.54 | treke | shoot. barber closed early |
| 00:54.58 | Bryan_W | :( |
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| 01:35.27 | Bullshit | my gaping anus itches |
| 01:35.43 | treke | thank you for sharing |
| 01:36.26 | Bullshit | just giving you the status of my ass |
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| 01:43.54 | ChipX86 | Bullshit: stay out. |
| 01:53.24 | Foxdie | don't feed the trolls ChipX86 :) |
| 01:53.55 | treke | yes. Light them on fire instead |
| 01:54.07 | ChipX86 | Foxdie: he joined #gaim. I banned him |
| 01:54.36 | Foxdie | I'm off to bed |
| 01:54.38 | Foxdie | night :) |
| 01:55.58 | treke | hehe |
| 02:14.54 | ChipX86 | they're migrating now |
| 02:15.01 | ChipX86 | but yeah. |
| 02:17.07 | treke | only logical explanation i can think of is that it could get very large, and a large hidden folder would be confusing |
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| 02:25.27 | ruied | I'm trying Gaim with msn but it doesn't work! any one can run msn with gaim? |
| 02:25.51 | ruied | I have a zaurus 5500 with OZ 3.3.5 |
| 02:40.34 | ChipX86 | did you follow the instructions? |
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| 02:44.46 | treke | fscking regular expressions. |
| 02:44.51 | treke | s/./_ didnt do what I intended :) |
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| 02:48.43 | ruied | ChipX86: yap |
| 02:49.02 | ChipX86 | what's it doing? |
| 02:49.52 | ruied | irc works with gaim but msn doesn't do anything, i press the connect button and it seems it doesn't even try to connect |
| 02:50.22 | ChipX86 | you installed gnutls and the libgaim-ssl packages? |
| 02:51.20 | ruied | yes libgnutls7 and libgaim-ssl |
| 02:51.40 | ChipX86 | dunno then |
| 02:52.09 | ruied | it works with you? |
| 02:52.32 | ChipX86 | I wrote it, so if it didn't, I woudl have fixed it :) |
| 02:52.41 | ChipX86 | a new version will be out probably by tomorrow |
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| 02:54.00 | ruied | hmm nice! I'm running oz 3.3.5 could it be a problem? |
| 02:54.25 | ChipX86 | I don't use OZ 3.3.5, so I don't know |
| 02:54.27 | ChipX86 | I hear it works though? |
| 02:55.19 | ruied | I can try with oz 3.2 ... |
| 02:57.35 | ruied | I'm going to take a try with oz 3.2 |
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| 03:10.21 | darin3200 | I put on OZ 3.3.5 with a 52 MB memory, 12 MB storage, but I always see 32 to MB for each, what's going on? |
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| 03:11.55 | treke | if I had to guess, I'd say you forgot to name the kernel properly |
| 03:12.29 | darin3200 | I switched it to just zImage before I installed it |
| 03:13.23 | ruied | ChipX86: now it works! it logs in, but when I acess the menus it crashes alot! |
| 03:13.50 | ruied | is it normal for this version? (I'm now running oz 3.2) |
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| 03:18.37 | ChipX86 | ruied: shouldn't be |
| 03:19.06 | ChipX86 | can you file a bug report showing your exact config (OS and stuff), debug output (gaim > debug.out 2>&1 in a terminal), and what you used to reproduce the problem? |
| 03:20.56 | ruied | ok! let me try jus one more thing... |
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| 03:28.20 | ruied | ChipX86: now it works! |
| 03:28.27 | ChipX86 | what was wrong? |
| 03:29.32 | ruied | it's ok! :) I had installed it in root, and now I've installed it in ram and it's working, could be a free space problem... |
| 03:32.39 | ruied | hmm I now see my msn friends, but the acess to menus still crashes gaim, going to try to debug it to a file... |
| 03:37.24 | ruied | ChipX86: I'm sendign you my debug.out, are you receiving it ? |
| 03:37.56 | ChipX86 | file a bug report |
| 03:38.09 | ChipX86 | DCC doesn't work here, and I get too much mail |
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| 03:49.51 | ruied | I've done it! |
| 03:50.28 | absentia | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:17.30 | ruied | i can't install kismet 3.0.1 it says: "Could not open :/usr/lib/ipkg/info/kismet.list |
| 04:17.37 | ruied | what can I do ? |
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| 05:24.30 | warmi_ | yeah |
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| 05:44.16 | treke | ChipX86, Is that new evolution/gaim plugin you wrote part of evolution 1.5 or can it be used with 1.4? |
| 05:45.23 | ChipX86 | evo 1.5 has support for IM accounts. The integration part is done via a gaim plugin, which you'll need CVS for |
| 05:45.30 | treke | k |
| 05:45.50 | treke | guess it isnt of that much use without multisync supporting gnome 1.5 :) |
| 05:46.16 | treke | er evolution 1.5 |