| 00:02.06 | absentia | re |
| 00:14.54 | jdh41 | OK, looking at http://www.kismetwireless.net/code/kismet-zaurus-arm-2.8.1.tar.gz |
| 00:15.11 | jdh41 | its a tar.gz file containing a .ipk which should be what he wants |
| 00:16.22 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: I suggest you download that URL I jsut posted if you haven't already, then use something like winrar [I think this will do it] to open it under windows on your desktop |
| 00:16.22 | jdh41 | extract kismet_zaurus_2.8.1_arm.ipk from it and copy that to your Z |
| 00:16.52 | jdh41 | you should then be able to install that using your GUI isntall tool |
| 00:17.04 | jdh41 | though god help you if it doens't work first time |
| 00:17.10 | jdh41 | [and I doubt it will] |
| 00:18.51 | jdh41 | see the docs directory in the .tar.gz file if you run into difficulties |
| 00:19.09 | jdh41 | though you may have difficulties understanding it at your present level of *nix experience |
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| 01:12.28 | nerdboy_ | oy |
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| 01:49.38 | absentia | peace [242]> rsync --force --stats --progress --delete www.spy.org:~scott/. ~scott/. |
| 01:49.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:49.56 | chouimat | night |
| 01:50.01 | absentia | night |
| 01:51.31 | absentia | 81669 files to consider |
| 01:53.01 | absentia | kergoth, how many home directories do you have ? |
| 01:53.26 | kergoth | just the one, i dont have very many machines |
| 01:54.20 | absentia | youh ome dir at work is the same as your home dir at home? |
| 01:55.08 | kergoth | oh, okay, 2 |
| 01:55.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:55.18 | kergoth | well, do we count remote shells? |
| 01:55.22 | absentia | yes |
| 01:55.25 | absentia | and zaurus home |
| 01:56.24 | kergoth | laptop, desktop, 3 zauruses, 8-10 remote |
| 01:56.24 | absentia | (same paths at each place, but different data) |
| 01:56.27 | absentia | yup |
| 01:56.30 | absentia | same here |
| 01:56.30 | kergoth | hmm, how messy |
| 01:57.16 | absentia | messy, perhaps but I'm tired of having 8 versions of my .tccshr |
| 01:57.21 | absentia | and bug fixes not propagating |
| 01:57.22 | absentia | etc. |
| 01:57.29 | absentia | I want to edit my .tcshrc at home |
| 01:57.34 | kergoth | heh, yeah, keeping all the shell functions and stuff in sync is annoying |
| 01:57.37 | absentia | and when I gett oowrk, have my file there be updated. |
| 01:57.53 | kergoth | sounds like we should store our dotfiles in cvs somewhere |
| 01:57.54 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:58.00 | absentia | my thoughts exactly. |
| 01:58.24 | absentia | I'm doing much t hesame with rsync via my colosite |
| 01:58.25 | absentia | :-/ |
| 01:58.54 | absentia | now the only hassle is I'm probably gonna have to use encrypted filessystems.. etc. |
| 01:59.16 | kergoth | have you ever looked at any of hte alternative network filesystems like coda, etc? |
| 01:59.22 | kergoth | i've been meaning to play around |
| 01:59.22 | absentia | I started prrogamming python qt at work.. then I had copies offsite ('cause I couldn't get from work, and home wasn't up).. so I bought a copy home.. then I moveda copy to the zaurus |
| 01:59.28 | kergoth | never seem to find the time |
| 01:59.29 | absentia | now I have 4 copies of my code. |
| 01:59.39 | kergoth | ew |
| 01:59.40 | absentia | only briefly. |
| 01:59.48 | absentia | but I don't think this can be done blindly. |
| 02:00.25 | absentia | I'm working off ~, ~/site and ~/shared (~/sites is the split, ~/site links out of ~ and the link out links back into and through ~/sites to the specific site) |
| 02:00.35 | absentia | seems messy.. but seems to work |
| 02:00.45 | absentia | I use redhat and gnome at work |
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| 02:00.47 | absentia | and kde at home |
| 02:00.54 | absentia | and I don't want them to fight it out in my . files. |
| 02:01.06 | kergoth | heh, yeah, that could get ugly |
| 02:01.51 | absentia | imagine a .mozilla on one version newer someplace else.. |
| 02:01.55 | absentia | you go there, it upgrades your files |
| 02:02.03 | kergoth | that right there is why the opie backup app doenst touch /etc |
| 02:02.03 | absentia | yo ugo back to thesite with the other version, it pukes. |
| 02:02.23 | absentia | it's just strange that this issue isn't really thought of |
| 02:02.31 | absentia | nfs use to do ok... for me |
| 02:02.39 | absentia | but even that wouldn't work if you had differing archs/oses.... |
| 02:03.23 | absentia | ok, at this point, I should have 3 sites with the same files, including dot files ... same paths, but separate data. |
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| 02:05.35 | absentia | dammit |
| 02:05.51 | absentia | my freebsd laptop disk is slow as molassas outside in nyc right now |
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| 02:24.59 | PlsHelp | i downloaded kismet 3.0.1.tar n kismet_qt gui....so what happens next?how do i installl kismet main program? |
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| 03:01.09 | chuckr | anyone home? |
| 03:02.59 | chuckr | I have an off-topic note for anyone here who reads Science Fiction .... a brand-new, undiscovered Heinlein book (his first, long lost) has been found, is now published. |
| 03:03.26 | chuckr | http://www.heinleinsociety.org/newsFUTL.html |
| 03:03.40 | chuckr | that's all, except, this isn't a hoax. |
| 03:04.59 | PlsHelp | how to create a directory...or do i already have a directory in my zaurus sl5600? |
| 03:05.33 | ayrnieu | pls - your zaurus has many directories. You probably have a #Linux question. |
| 03:05.49 | PlsHelp | how to create a directory...or do i already have a directory in my zaurus sl5600? If i already do,how to locate it??pls help... |
| 03:06.15 | ayrnieu | Please try to ask a proper question. |
| 03:06.51 | PlsHelp | what do u mean>>> how is my question improper,pls advise |
| 03:07.56 | chuckr | your question, at least the way ou prased it, is silly. You certainly didn't mean it that way, so try rephrasing it, because it's sort of like "wehre are the slices" at a bakery, the answer's so obvious, we can't have understood you correctly. |
| 03:08.31 | Pendalar | someone's suck'n on d'bunt |
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| 03:37.54 | PlsHELP | anyone here has used orinoco gold together with zaurus to surf...pls hep.. |
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| 04:57.24 | gerrynjr | curious.. is the sharp digicam addon worth 14 bucks? |
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| 05:14.08 | Mr_Shling | hello all, is anybody awake? |
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| 06:08.11 | PlsHELP | can anyone tell me what can unpack/unzip gzip?wanted to use gzip to unzip kismet tar gz files..but gzip itself is zip,doesnt make sense at all,anyone help pls? |
| 06:09.01 | Pendalar | what is your native language? |
| 06:11.52 | PlsHELP | my native lang..u mean miy linux pda?? |
| 06:12.39 | Pendalar | no I mean either you are very young |
| 06:12.47 | Pendalar | or you generally don't write english |
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| 06:13.13 | PlsHELP | take it that its my secong lang.. |
| 06:13.23 | Pendalar | then what's your first |
| 06:13.35 | PlsHELP | lol..english too |
| 06:13.37 | PlsHELP | :) |
| 06:14.11 | Pendalar | so you are saying english is your first and second language? |
| 06:14.37 | PlsHELP | and my 3rd too |
| 06:15.18 | Pendalar | you make less sense than I thought |
| 06:15.32 | PlsHELP | lifes abitch |
| 06:15.36 | PlsHELP | :) |
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| 06:54.52 | Wembly | what changed in the 3.x firmware update that you can no longer use linux for the zaurus? |
| 06:54.52 | Wembly | or am i missing something? |
| 07:01.11 | kergoth | Wembly: they completely changed the pim backend and sync stuff |
| 07:01.20 | Wembly | hey kergoth! |
| 07:01.21 | kergoth | *cough*dumbasses*cough* |
| 07:01.24 | kergoth | hey |
| 07:01.27 | Wembly | ltnc :) |
| 07:01.36 | Wembly | i moved hehe im now down at univ mo rolla :) |
| 07:01.38 | kergoth | yeah, how ya been? |
| 07:01.42 | kergoth | ah |
| 07:01.43 | Wembly | getting my 4 year in comp sci :) |
| 07:01.46 | kergoth | nice |
| 07:01.54 | Wembly | tho i might change it to comp E |
| 07:01.59 | kergoth | im workin my ass off at ti in tx |
| 07:01.59 | Wembly | and i have you to blame :) |
| 07:02.09 | kergoth | probably going back to school soon too |
| 07:02.09 | kergoth | /win 20 |
| 07:02.13 | kergoth | err, damnit |
| 07:02.17 | Wembly | anyhow |
| 07:02.22 | Wembly | so like.. |
| 07:02.38 | Wembly | what support is around for the lesser supported hp pda's? |
| 07:02.52 | Wembly | one's familure dosnt support that is. |
| 07:03.11 | Wembly | someone in my dorm has a hp pda tho i dont recall the model # but its fairly new (month or so old) |
| 07:03.27 | kergoth | ask treke |
| 07:03.31 | Wembly | k |
| 07:03.34 | kergoth | or anyone in #handhelds.org |
| 07:03.49 | Wembly | i figured something might of changed with openembedded |
| 07:04.10 | kergoth | we generaly use the kernels the hh.o folks do, for the ipaqs |
| 07:04.13 | kergoth | just with our distro |
| 07:04.36 | Wembly | ahh k |
| 07:04.44 | Wembly | i dont know anything about oe :/ |
| 07:04.49 | Wembly | nor zaurus anymore :~( |
| 07:09.25 | Wembly | how is oe doing btw? |
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| 11:21.28 | irvken | hello |
| 11:21.45 | irvken | still after 6 months trying to get my Z working with my debian box |
| 11:23.14 | Mocara | still can't get my WLI2-CF-S11 working with my 5500 |
| 11:23.15 | Mocara | :-) |
| 11:23.20 | Mocara | swap you problems? ;-) |
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| 11:26.06 | irvken | what's that, a compact flash card |
| 11:26.21 | irvken | shouldn't it just plug in and work? |
| 11:26.22 | Mocara | no, it's a wireless card. |
| 11:26.25 | Mocara | Buffalo. |
| 11:26.39 | Mocara | my mate has one in his 760 and it works fine, but it won't work in my 5500 |
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| 11:27.32 | irvken | I bought a generic wireless lan that just plugged in and worked, I thought they all worked like that |
| 11:29.17 | Mocara | I thought so to, but not mine.. |
| 11:30.24 | irvken | ouch |
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| 13:31.28 | Mr_Shling | hello all, anybody up? |
| 13:34.17 | Mase | thinking about it |
| 13:35.49 | Mr_Shling | mase, are you available to help by any chance? |
| 13:40.27 | Mase | yeh i'll give it a go |
| 13:41.37 | PlsHELP | how do u install .tar.gz files onto zaurus?anyone? |
| 13:42.09 | Mase | make a ipk package on your linux box |
| 13:42.14 | Mase | then install that |
| 13:42.16 | Mase | i guess |
| 13:42.24 | Mase | linux/bsd/unix |
| 13:42.37 | Mr_Shling | thanks, ok, the problem is that i'm having trouble syncing my newly installed OpenZaurus with my box that runs win2kpro |
| 13:43.22 | Mr_Shling | at one point i could ping the handheld while it was connected but could never sync it with programs such as Qtopia desktop 7 |
| 13:44.13 | Mase | hmm what version of openzaurus are you running? |
| 13:44.20 | Mr_Shling | 3.2 |
| 13:44.26 | Mr_Shling | just got it last night |
| 13:44.42 | Mr_Shling | with a SL-5500 handheld |
| 13:45.05 | Mase | ok, i was having the same problem under linux with the sharp roms :) ...i think i make a usb net service and that seemed to work.. |
| 13:45.15 | Mase | you may have to try #openzaurus |
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| 13:45.49 | Mase | kergoth may be able to help you, he is the maintainer of OZ and a pretty nice guy to talk to |
| 13:46.17 | Mr_Shling | ok, thanks you |
| 13:46.22 | Mase | i.e he's helped me with stuff without being condescending or rude becuase i dont know much about stuff |
| 13:46.35 | Mr_Shling | hehe, good |
| 13:46.42 | Mase | can you ping the Z now? |
| 13:46.44 | Mr_Shling | should i just ask for him in the oz channel? |
| 13:47.00 | Mr_Shling | well, i was messing with the gateway settings... |
| 13:47.10 | Mr_Shling | and now i don't remember the default ones, so no |
| 13:47.28 | Mase | umm just ask for help and if he's there he generally will |
| 13:47.45 | Mase | ok, default settings are 192.168.129.201 |
| 13:47.56 | Mr_Shling | no, i mean for the gateway... |
| 13:48.32 | Mr_Shling | for the network settings in oz |
| 13:48.41 | Mr_Shling | right under the subnet mask |
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| 13:49.15 | Mase | ok, i dont have OZ atm sorry, i need my CF card and java too much :) |
| 13:49.23 | Mase | otherwise i definately would |
| 13:49.46 | Mr_Shling | that's ok, thanks again mase |
| 13:51.37 | Mase | np, i am really sorry i couldn't help, i had all sorts of painn trying to sync my sharp rom under linux and i know how frustrating it is |
| 13:57.50 | PlsHELP | im in same boat,but its cos i cant install .tar.gz files...error all the time... |
| 13:57.52 | PlsHELP | :( |
| 13:57.58 | PlsHELP | frustratingly similar |
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| 14:30.01 | irvken | hmm, my Z just froze mt entire debian box when I put it in the cradle |
| 14:36.41 | jdh41 | PlsHELP: read the sb, I told you how to sort out your problem |
| 14:38.33 | Mase | irvken: mine did that too |
| 14:38.37 | Mase | 2.6 doesn't do it, |
| 14:38.44 | Mase | do you have a via chipset? |
| 14:43.02 | irvken | I solved it by changing the uhci module to usb-uhci |
| 14:43.35 | Mase | ah...how do you do that? |
| 14:43.44 | jdh41 | yes, you need to make sure you have the right usb 1 module for your m/b |
| 14:43.51 | jdh41 | too iirc |
| 14:45.01 | Mase | k, kewl. is there a how-to for changing uhci to usb-uhci somewhere? |
| 14:46.45 | irvken | rmmod uhci folowed by modprobe usb-uhci worked for me |
| 14:51.15 | Mase | ok, how do i get it to do that automagically? |
| 14:51.29 | Mase | do i just blacklist uhci? |
| 14:51.51 | Mase | or do i have to do something to make usb-uhci load in place? |
| 14:52.27 | Mase | sorry, if these are simple questions, only just begining to understand how modules work |
| 14:53.23 | irvken | er, I haven't worked that out myself yet :), still doing it manually |
| 14:53.39 | irvken | it's stopped freezing, but now I can't see anything |
| 14:54.35 | Mase | irvken: when mine was freezing, i got a kernel Oops, try going to runlevel 3 with uhci and plug jam your Z in while its turned on.. |
| 14:54.43 | Mase | see if you get a Kernel Oops |
| 14:55.15 | Mase | btw what is your MB? |
| 14:56.37 | jdh41 | modconf might be worth a go |
| 14:57.02 | jdh41 | anyone know how to make rfcomm create a /dev/rfcomm0 device under OZ 3.3.5 |
| 14:57.31 | Mase | modconf? |
| 14:58.34 | jdh41 | its a menu type system which lets you load modules and then messes about somehwo so it always tries to load them on boot |
| 14:59.38 | Mase | ah... which distro is this? |
| 14:59.59 | jdh41 | its certainly in debian |
| 15:00.05 | jdh41 | but is generic tool iirc |
| 15:00.52 | jdh41 | you need to be su to use it |
| 15:04.31 | Mase | yeh i am, got slack 9.1 here and locate doesn't seem to show anything, maybe i just haven't installed it |
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| 15:54.27 | alobodig | Can the Zaurus be sync'd with Evolution in some way? |
| 15:57.15 | jdh41 | alobodig: look at multisync |
| 15:57.30 | alobodig | Will do. |
| 15:58.36 | jdh41 | alt. tehre exist shell scripts which claim to do it |
| 15:58.43 | jdh41 | *there |
| 15:59.07 | yeiazel | I'm using my Z with Evolution with multisync |
| 15:59.15 | yeiazel | it works. |
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| 16:13.48 | George- | moooohahahaha |
| 16:13.50 | George- | hello :D |
| 16:14.10 | George- | it's decisively breezy in my room at school :( |
| 16:14.56 | Foxdie | I've bricked my zaurus yay |
| 16:15.05 | Bryan_W | no you didn't |
| 16:15.17 | Foxdie | well it's recoverable |
| 16:15.37 | George- | fool |
| 16:15.38 | George- | idiot |
| 16:16.20 | Foxdie | you're breaking that new years resolution :) |
| 16:16.29 | nerdboy_ | morn |
| 16:16.31 | George- | no i'm not |
| 16:16.42 | George- | I'm throwing contempt at you for bricking a Z. |
| 16:16.45 | George- | you deserve it |
| 16:16.46 | George- | :P |
| 16:17.19 | Foxdie | I can get into the service menu |
| 16:17.40 | Foxdie | I just bought myself a card reader from jessops for 9.99 and I'm gonna use it to put on NAND files |
| 16:19.35 | George- | blah. |
| 16:20.59 | Foxdie | holy shit |
| 16:21.03 | Foxdie | even in usb1.1 it's fast |
| 16:25.07 | George- | anyone know of a good site to kill some time? |
| 16:25.09 | George- | I'm bored |
| 16:25.09 | George- | :P |
| 16:25.27 | George- | (if anyone suggests porn I will personally shove their Z up their arse) |
| 16:25.44 | Foxdie | yahoo games |
| 16:25.53 | Foxdie | I love playing scrabble online |
| 16:25.53 | George- | other than games |
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| 16:33.01 | Foxdie | okay I need some real help now |
| 16:33.40 | George- | should I enter the qt/mac developer competition? |
| 16:33.48 | Foxdie | this is a plea to the channel: If anyone knows how to recover from a NAND corruption on a Zaurus please help me! |
| 16:34.09 | George- | Foxdie: 'fraid i have absolutely no idea :P |
| 16:38.26 | JuNGLisT | Foxdie : http://externe.net/zaurus/forum/search.php? go there and make a search for "bricked" |
| 16:38.47 | JuNGLisT | that'll help for sure |
| 16:43.27 | George- | bbl |
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| 16:48.19 | Foxdie | oh shit |
| 16:48.23 | Foxdie | I don't have a CF card big enough :( |
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| 18:30.41 | gerrynjr | is the sharp camera for the Z worth 25 bucks? |
| 18:31.01 | Reddog | last time i saw you ask that.. wasn't it 15? |
| 18:31.11 | gerrynjr | Reddog: i'm including shipping... |
| 18:31.18 | gerrynjr | Reddog: and my gps won't get a fix :-( |
| 18:31.23 | Reddog | ah |
| 18:31.46 | gerrynjr | i'm thinking it's a defective gps |
| 18:31.47 | Reddog | hmm |
| 18:32.32 | Reddog | which gps package did you get.. one of them comes with a serial cable for it |
| 18:32.33 | gerrynjr | Reddog: I get blue all over the screen when i use qpegps |
| 18:32.47 | gerrynjr | Reddog: unfortunately, I ended up w/ the pda version |
| 18:33.14 | gerrynjr | Reddog: I getr data back.. but it isn't correct.. |
| 18:33.20 | gerrynjr | ie.. 1997 :-D |
| 18:33.48 | gerrynjr | Reddog: i'm using qpegps... |
| 18:33.53 | gerrynjr | do you use anything different? |
| 18:34.02 | Reddog | nope, that's what we use |
| 18:37.05 | Reddog | although qpegps doesn't seem to wanna run on my OZ 3.2 atm |
| 18:38.05 | gerrynjr | odd |
| 18:38.06 | gerrynjr | GPSD ,S=0 |
| 18:38.13 | gerrynjr | 0=No GPS, 1=No Signal, 2=2D Fix, 3=3D Fix |
| 18:38.49 | gerrynjr | Reddog: will runnng a getty on the port in question do anything? |
| 18:39.45 | Reddog | hmm |
| 18:39.54 | Reddog | i don't see how that would affect it |
| 18:41.07 | gerrynjr | i'm still thinking it's defective :-( |
| 18:41.23 | Reddog | don't suppose the store had any more of them |
| 18:41.55 | gerrynjr | nope |
| 18:42.05 | gerrynjr | my dad's works fine |
| 18:42.10 | gerrynjr | but he left his on for 5 hours |
| 18:42.30 | Reddog | hmm |
| 18:42.59 | Reddog | took that long to get a fix, or? |
| 18:43.09 | Reddog | or it just kinda worked out the bug |
| 18:43.10 | gerrynjr | just to find the satellites |
| 18:43.17 | Reddog | wow |
| 18:43.55 | gerrynjr | for some ofdd reason, on mine, the A: progress indicator overfills with blue |
| 18:45.59 | Reddog | hmm |
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| 18:47.38 | Reddog | running on OZ? |
| 18:47.41 | gerrynjr | nope |
| 18:47.43 | gerrynjr | tkc |
| 18:47.55 | Reddog | ah |
| 18:48.02 | Reddog | never used tkc |
| 18:48.20 | gerrynjr | ny dad was using the same rom |
| 18:48.54 | Reddog | rom shouldn't make that problem either though |
| 18:49.13 | gerrynjr | $GPGGA,000012,3537.8333,N,13944.6667,E,0,00,99.9,0100,M,,M,000,0000*7B |
| 18:49.13 | gerrynjr | $GPGLL,3537.8333,N,13944.6667,E,000012,V*3D |
| 18:49.13 | gerrynjr | $GPRMC,000012,V,3537.8333,N,13944.6667,E,000.0,000.0,010497,,*01 |
| 18:49.13 | gerrynjr | $GPZDA,000012,01,04,1997,,*48 |
| 18:49.13 | gerrynjr | $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,99.9,99.9,99.9*09 |
| 18:50.36 | Reddog | it almost seems as if maybe that's the info from when it was built and/or programmed |
| 18:50.53 | Reddog | any date code on the bottom? |
| 18:51.34 | gerrynjr | 10802 |
| 18:51.45 | gerrynjr | serno: 1012540 |
| 18:52.37 | Reddog | hmm |
| 18:52.43 | Reddog | there goes that |
| 18:58.36 | Reddog | getting a diff ver. of qpegps off OZ's testing feed |
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| 19:00.48 | gerrynjr | hmm, what is 35 degrees north, 139 degrees east? |
| 19:01.36 | Reddog | woo, runs now |
| 19:02.32 | Reddog | try mapquest, or terraserver.. i believe one of them does coordinate lookups |
| 19:02.59 | gerrynjr | it's japan! |
| 19:03.03 | gerrynjr | boooo |
| 19:03.21 | Reddog | lmao |
| 19:03.32 | gerrynjr | i'm not in japan! |
| 19:06.15 | gerrynjr | Reddog: what version of OZ are you running? |
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| 19:10.41 | gerrynjr | Reddog: does the thing work for you indoors? |
| 19:12.44 | Reddog | 3.2 |
| 19:12.56 | Reddog | and, yes.. if i set it right by a window |
| 19:20.22 | gerrynjr | thanks, i'll try it again |
| 19:20.31 | gerrynjr | if it doesn't work.. i'l probably hunt down another one |
| 19:20.59 | Reddog | it needs to have a clear view of the sky to work properly |
| 19:21.13 | Reddog | with no big buildings/anything in it's way |
| 19:21.38 | Reddog | when you run qpegps.. how many satellites show up? |
| 19:21.45 | gerrynjr | none |
| 19:22.01 | Reddog | need at least 3-4 to get a lock |
| 19:22.06 | gerrynjr | ouch |
| 19:22.38 | gerrynjr | by clear view of the sky... do you mean horizontally?? or vertically? |
| 19:22.40 | Reddog | i believe it's 3 to get a 2d lock, and 4 to get a 3d lock |
| 19:23.16 | Reddog | preferably horizontally |
| 19:23.29 | Reddog | that gives it more space to search for satellites |
| 19:23.49 | gerrynjr | hmm, lots of trees in the way in my area... |
| 19:24.18 | Reddog | should be slighly less picky about trees, than it is about buildings |
| 19:24.23 | Reddog | especially in winter |
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| 19:24.40 | gerrynjr | well, i'll be back in a few with my status |
| 19:24.58 | Reddog | ok |
| 19:25.09 | Reddog | i'm going out to remove snow from our driveway |
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| 21:06.11 | PlsHelp | how to install .tar.gz file?anyone? |
| 21:10.04 | Foxdie | PlsHelp |
| 21:10.14 | Foxdie | gunzip filename.tar.gz |
| 21:10.18 | yeiazel | ... |
| 21:10.19 | Foxdie | tar -xvf filename.tar |
| 21:11.01 | yeiazel | Foxdie: he's keeping asking this question on #handhelds.org since yesterday |
| 21:11.17 | yeiazel | nobody knows how to help him |
| 21:11.27 | yeiazel | everyone has explained everyting do many times |
| 21:11.32 | yeiazel | s/do/so/ |
| 21:11.38 | Foxdie | oh |
| 21:11.39 | yeiazel | but he doesn't want to understand |
| 21:11.49 | Foxdie | perhaps you need to treat him like a baby? |
| 21:12.30 | PlsHelp | i dont mind... |
| 21:12.37 | PlsHelp | treat me like one... |
| 21:13.03 | yeiazel | where is your tar.gz file ? |
| 21:13.53 | PlsHelp | how do i check that? |
| 21:14.06 | yeiazel | don't check |
| 21:14.10 | yeiazel | tell me where you've put it |
| 21:14.14 | yeiazel | where do you see it |
| 21:14.19 | yeiazel | where do you think it is |
| 21:14.24 | yeiazel | where do you know it is |
| 21:15.21 | PlsHelp | i sync with pc...transferred the software to files... |
| 21:15.29 | yeiazel | ok |
| 21:15.36 | PlsHelp | i dont know if it helps.. |
| 21:15.37 | Foxdie | do you know what folder it's saved in? |
| 21:15.37 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 21:15.37 | yeiazel | do you see them anywhere on the Z ? |
| 21:15.47 | yeiazel | in the Documents tab ? |
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| 21:17.01 | PlsHelp | nope..i installed them on to the main interface of files tab..if it helps..i can transfer the files to install files,image files,text files??which do u prefer? |
| 21:17.16 | PlsHelp | these are the 3 folders in files group |
| 21:17.27 | yeiazel | what app are you talking about ? |
| 21:17.35 | PlsHelp | it's kismet |
| 21:17.43 | yeiazel | no |
| 21:17.54 | PlsHelp | why no? |
| 21:17.56 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 21:17.56 | yeiazel | the tab where you have these image files, text files, etc ? |
| 21:18.00 | yeiazel | s/tab/app/ |
| 21:18.06 | yeiazel | which app is it ? |
| 21:18.34 | PlsHelp | sorry i lost u...dont understand.. |
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| 21:19.17 | YeiazeI_ | PlsHelp: you've said : |
| 21:19.22 | YeiazeI_ | 22:17 <PlsHelp> nope..i installed them on to the main interface of files tab..if it helps..i can transfer the files to install files,image files,text files??which do u prefer? |
| 21:19.25 | PlsHelp | yes? |
| 21:19.30 | YeiazeI_ | what are you talking about ? |
| 21:19.43 | YeiazeI_ | the main interface of your coffee machine ? |
| 21:19.52 | PlsHelp | ok.. let me explain: |
| 21:20.01 | YeiazeI_ | yes, explain |
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| 21:20.58 | yeiazel | FUCKING CRAPPY COMPUTER ! |
| 21:21.27 | PlsHelp | zaurus powers up to: 1)applications 2) games 3)jeode 4)settings 5)files |
| 21:21.44 | yeiazel | yes |
| 21:21.49 | PlsHelp | these are the categories the machines software is spli,i think! |
| 21:21.50 | yeiazel | is your tar.gz file in "files" ? |
| 21:21.58 | PlsHelp | yes,precisely |
| 21:22.07 | yeiazel | okay |
| 21:22.12 | PlsHelp | thats where they automatically sync to |
| 21:22.12 | yeiazel | start the terminal |
| 21:22.17 | PlsHelp | ok.. |
| 21:22.23 | PlsHelp | its up |
| 21:22.52 | PlsHelp | it shows ls... |
| 21:23.12 | PlsHelp | then below it: bash-2.5$ |
| 21:23.43 | yeiazel | type: "ls" |
| 21:23.53 | yeiazel | does it show "Documents" somewhere ? |
| 21:24.16 | PlsHelp | ok...yes.. |
| 21:24.20 | yeiazel | ok |
| 21:24.25 | yeiazel | type "ls Documents" |
| 21:24.42 | PlsHelp | in this oreder: applications Documents Settings |
| 21:25.45 | yeiazel | does it display your file when you type "ls Documents" ? |
| 21:26.04 | PlsHelp | yes... |
| 21:26.09 | yeiazel | ok |
| 21:26.15 | yeiazel | type: "cd Documents" |
| 21:26.26 | yeiazel | and now type "tar zxvf yourfile.tar.gz" |
| 21:28.32 | PlsHelp | yourfile = kismet?? |
| 21:28.39 | yeiazel | don't know |
| 21:28.48 | yeiazel | you never said what was your file's name |
| 21:29.41 | PlsHelp | ok..i try kismet |
| 21:32.10 | PlsHelp | ok....a lot of lines of code appear |
| 21:32.15 | yeiazel | it's not code |
| 21:32.20 | yeiazel | it's file it uncompresses |
| 21:32.29 | PlsHelp | oh.sorry.. |
| 21:32.34 | PlsHelp | so whats next? |
| 21:32.42 | yeiazel | is it finished ? |
| 21:32.49 | yeiazel | type "ls" |
| 21:32.55 | yeiazel | it should display a new entry |
| 21:33.02 | PlsHelp | yes..stopped at 05$ |
| 21:33.14 | yeiazel | probably the name of your file without ".tar.gz" |
| 21:33.25 | yeiazel | it's the directory it has uncompressed |
| 21:33.30 | yeiazel | do you see it? |
| 21:34.48 | yeiazel | DO YOU SEE IT ? |
| 21:35.27 | PlsHelp | displays as follows: Image files,Install files,kismet-3.0.1,kismet-3.0.1.tar.gz,kismet-qt_2.0.0_arm.ipk |
| 21:35.44 | yeiazel | type "cd kismet-3.0.1" |
| 21:35.58 | PlsHelp | next line is: bash-2.05$ |
| 21:36.29 | yeiazel | type "ls" |
| 21:36.43 | yeiazel | do you see something like "README" or "INSTALL" ? |
| 21:37.25 | PlsHelp | yes |
| 21:37.33 | yeiazel | ok |
| 21:37.37 | yeiazel | type "less README" |
| 21:39.05 | PlsHelp | bash: less: command not found |
| 21:39.13 | yeiazel | hum |
| 21:39.18 | yeiazel | type "more README" |
| 21:39.28 | PlsHelp | ok.. |
| 21:40.08 | PlsHelp | shows: |
| 21:40.17 | yeiazel | just read it |
| 21:40.23 | yeiazel | it will tell you what to do next |
| 21:40.29 | PlsHelp | KISMET 3.0.1 |
| 21:40.37 | PlsHelp | ok.. |
| 21:40.57 | yeiazel | I give up, now |
| 21:41.34 | PlsHelp | wait! |
| 21:41.42 | PlsHelp | finished reading.. |
| 21:42.10 | PlsHelp | i cannot tap on the listed items.. |
| 21:42.16 | yeiazel | tap ? |
| 21:42.21 | PlsHelp | so cannot really read them |
| 21:42.30 | yeiazel | ouch |
| 21:42.34 | yeiazel | go buy a brain |
| 21:42.43 | yeiazel | and learn how to use unix systems |
| 21:42.48 | PlsHelp | think so too |
| 21:42.55 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 21:42.59 | yeiazel | you will not be able to install this kismet version |
| 21:43.07 | yeiazel | forget it |
| 21:43.08 | yeiazel | you are not intelligent enough |
| 21:44.21 | PlsHelp | ok...thanks for your help..i will try to save up some dosh to buy a brain! |
| 21:44.25 | PlsHelp | thanks for yr help... |
| 21:44.48 | yeiazel | seriously, learn now to use linux, command lines, etc |
| 21:45.02 | PlsHelp | i got in.. |
| 21:45.09 | PlsHelp | just key the number.. |
| 21:45.19 | PlsHelp | im a dumbass.. |
| 21:45.29 | PlsHelp | sorry if it makes you angry |
| 21:45.32 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 21:45.42 | PlsHelp | im just trying to learn |
| 21:45.51 | yeiazel | it doesn't make me angry |
| 21:46.12 | yeiazel | but you've made ppl lost patience where nobody has never been able to |
| 21:46.53 | PlsHelp | i do apologise for that... |
| 21:46.55 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 21:46.56 | yeiazel | :) |
| 21:47.10 | yeiazel | you're a patience-losing genious |
| 21:47.11 | JuNGLisT | PlsHelp : you should begin with a linux tutorial |
| 21:47.22 | JuNGLisT | before asking ppl |
| 21:47.24 | yeiazel | PlsHelp: you should begin with a computer tutorial |
| 21:47.28 | JuNGLisT | lol |
| 21:47.35 | yeiazel | no, you should begin with a technology tutorial... |
| 21:47.39 | yeiazel | sorry :) |
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| 21:49.04 | PlsHelp | im so sorry... |
| 21:49.16 | PlsHelp | i will work hard at this... |
| 21:49.29 | PlsHelp | and i sincerelt thank u for helping me... |
| 21:49.38 | PlsHelp | appreciate it... |
| 22:08.24 | Bryan_W | what is a good game to have for the zaurus? |
| 22:11.08 | yeiazel | ScummVM and all scumm games |
| 22:19.02 | cor | does anybody know if cvm is available for the 5500? |
| 22:26.48 | PlsHelp | yeiazel: i'm stuck,can u help me...Compile Kismet (./configure, make dep, make) is what is required, i key in ./configure...press return...configure: error: no acceptable C compilerfound in $PATH...See 'config.log' for more details. |
| 22:27.05 | PlsHelp | can u advise me? |
| 22:27.14 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: you managed to install the package then? |
| 22:27.35 | PlsHelp | i just finished reading readme... |
| 22:27.43 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: the recommended compliation machine is a linux PC with an arm cross compiler |
| 22:27.58 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: if you have the ipk you don't need to compile it |
| 22:28.02 | yeiazel | PlsHelp: you should install a compiler before compiling the softwarbut doesn't it exist as a package ? |
| 22:28.05 | yeiazel | ipk |
| 22:28.09 | jdh41 | jsut do ipkg -i kismet_whatever.ipk |
| 22:28.16 | PlsHelp | i try |
| 22:29.23 | jdh41 | and the error is? |
| 22:29.30 | PlsHelp | i guess i can't just click abutton or command for ksimet to install automatically?? |
| 22:29.34 | PlsHelp | is that it?? |
| 22:29.35 | jdh41 | you can try |
| 22:29.39 | jdh41 | it might work |
| 22:29.48 | jdh41 | try the default sharp one? |
| 22:32.14 | jdh41 | it should appear in the list possibly |
| 22:32.24 | PlsHelp | jdh41: so what should i do now? type ipkg -i kismet_whatever.ipk in bash? |
| 22:32.42 | JuNGLisT | try "ipkg -i kismet-qt_2.0.0_arm.ipk" |
| 22:32.51 | jdh41 | yes, while in the directory where the ipk is |
| 22:33.08 | jdh41 | and replacing kismet_whatever with the actual name |
| 22:33.11 | jdh41 | as JuNGLisT has done |
| 22:33.30 | PlsHelp | thats the gui interface,rite??thought i must install the mains software itself,worry abt gui later |
| 22:33.57 | JuNGLisT | seem to be the only ipk thing you've got |
| 22:34.10 | JuNGLisT | try to find kismet in ipk format |
| 22:34.12 | PlsHelp | yup |
| 22:34.13 | JuNGLisT | for the main archive |
| 22:34.18 | JuNGLisT | the tgz one is the sources |
| 22:34.25 | jdh41 | JuNGLisT: they supply one on the kismet site |
| 22:34.26 | JuNGLisT | you'll have to compile them either |
| 22:34.32 | jdh41 | I posted a link to it with instructions last night |
| 22:34.33 | JuNGLisT | and so to firstly install a compiler |
| 22:34.47 | jdh41 | then told PlsHelp to read the scrollback as it had instructions on how to use it |
| 22:34.51 | PlsHelp | so now i must install compiler first? |
| 22:34.53 | jdh41 | seems he ignored those however |
| 22:35.02 | JuNGLisT | doh |
| 22:35.05 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 22:35.12 | jdh41 | JuNGLisT: I think thats beyond him |
| 22:35.34 | PlsHelp | sorry..not ignored..reading the readme..and trying to install software,sorry about that.. |
| 22:35.37 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 22:35.40 | jdh41 | luckily the kismet site supplies http://www.kismetwireless.net/code/kismet-zaurus-arm-2.8.1.tar.gz |
| 22:35.50 | PlsHelp | yup..chances are,junglist is rite |
| 22:35.51 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 22:35.53 | jdh41 | which contains an ipk |
| 22:36.02 | jdh41 | which I assyme will install it |
| 22:36.12 | jdh41 | he should not need to compile it |
| 22:36.28 | jdh41 | as that is clearly beyond his current abilites (sorry PlsHelp) |
| 22:36.41 | PlsHelp | can i just install akismet that auto install onto zaurs..this installation thing is really hard! |
| 22:36.57 | PlsHelp | no offence taken..i know my limits |
| 22:36.58 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 22:37.14 | jdh41 | so you have the .ipk on your Zaurus now? |
| 22:37.20 | jdh41 | Does it show up in the files tab? |
| 22:37.41 | jdh41 | if so what happens if you tap on it? (I think thats how you normally install packages isn't it?) |
| 22:37.55 | Reddog | yep |
| 22:38.23 | PlsHelp | i got kismet-qt_2..thats the only ipk i ogt.. |
| 22:38.24 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 22:38.33 | PlsHelp | its the gui for kismet |
| 22:38.36 | Reddog | that's the GUI for kismet |
| 22:38.40 | PlsHelp | i know |
| 22:38.44 | Reddog | you need the actual kismet package |
| 22:39.09 | PlsHelp | actual kismet package is in tar.gz |
| 22:39.39 | PlsHelp | therein lies my problem...my other problem of ocurse,is my stupidity!! |
| 22:39.39 | Reddog | what ROM are you running? |
| 22:39.40 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 22:39.49 | jdh41 | you should have kismet_zaurus_2.8.1_arm.ipk |
| 22:40.04 | jdh41 | Reddog: hes on the original SHARP ROM for the 5600 iirc |
| 22:40.05 | PlsHelp | sharp rom version 1.0.0....the default rom sharp ships with |
| 22:40.29 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: you on a 5500 or a 5600? |
| 22:40.36 | PlsHelp | 5600 |
| 22:40.40 | jdh41 | and do you have a working wireless card at the moment? |
| 22:41.24 | PlsHelp | xyes,i do! but it's an orinoco gold pcmcia card...but i got a semsons cf slot adapter for it |
| 22:41.39 | PlsHelp | i like my orinoco.. |
| 22:42.23 | jdh41 | well at least you ahve something for kismet to work with then. |
| 22:43.00 | PlsHelp | but first i got to get the software to work,which it isn't |
| 22:43.18 | PlsHelp | i suck real bad at this! |
| 22:43.19 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 22:43.42 | jdh41 | ok, where did you get this package you're trying to use? |
| 22:44.17 | PlsHelp | from here: http://www.kismetwireless.net/download.shtml |
| 22:44.24 | PlsHelp | take a look |
| 22:44.26 | PlsHelp | :) |
| 22:45.49 | jdh41 | you got the one with Zaurus specific support but _not_ pcap, right? |
| 22:45.52 | PlsHelp | does kismet have a ipk(unpacked,nothing else needs to be done) version of the main kismetr software,so i can install without fuss?? |
| 22:46.12 | jdh41 | no, you need to download the .tar.gz and the ipk is in that |
| 22:46.22 | PlsHelp | nope i chose with zaurus and pcap |
| 22:46.33 | jdh41 | after downloading to your (presumably windows) box, use winrar or similar to open it |
| 22:46.46 | jdh41 | extract kismet_zaurus_2.8.1_arm.ipk only |
| 22:47.26 | Reddog | here, www.reddog.haveman.net/zaurus/ |
| 22:47.27 | jdh41 | now install that as youn would any other ipk you've downloaded off the net |
| 22:47.37 | PlsHelp | jdh41: i did just that last nite, but when i wanted to transfer the unpacked files n folders over to zaurus..the folders dont go..only files do... |
| 22:47.48 | PlsHelp | so its still no go... |
| 22:47.50 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 22:47.58 | jdh41 | you _only_ need the .ipk file |
| 22:47.59 | Reddog | go to that website, and get the ipkg |
| 22:48.01 | jdh41 | ignore the rest. |
| 22:48.07 | PlsHelp | oic.... |
| 22:48.19 | jdh41 | or do as Reddog says |
| 22:48.35 | PlsHelp | winrar to unpack then choose only ipkg to transfer to zaurus,is that rite?? |
| 22:49.00 | PlsHelp | ignore the rest of the files and folders?? |
| 22:51.15 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: thats right |
| 22:51.22 | jdh41 | they just contain documentation and stuff |
| 22:51.28 | jdh41 | everything for the install is in the .ipk |
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| 22:57.29 | PlsHelp | ok... its winrar-ed |
| 22:57.45 | PlsHelp | but i do NOT see ipk anwhere... |
| 22:57.48 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 22:57.58 | jdh41 | what are you seeing? |
| 22:58.12 | Reddog | did you get the binary package, and not the source package? |
| 22:58.16 | Reddog | you need the binary |
| 22:58.42 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: in that case jsut download http://jdh41.caths.cam.ac.uk/~jdh41/kismet_zaurus_2.8.1_arm.ipk |
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| 22:59.09 | jdh41 | its what I extracted from the archive |
| 22:59.12 | PlsHelp | i see lots of cc files.. |
| 22:59.13 | jdh41 | try installing that |
| 22:59.15 | PlsHelp | bot file.. |
| 22:59.29 | PlsHelp | h files |
| 22:59.33 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: jsut get the file I jsut posted |
| 22:59.37 | PlsHelp | ok |
| 22:59.39 | jdh41 | I think you must have got the wrong file |
| 22:59.48 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 22:59.57 | Reddog | if you have cc files, you downloaded the source |
| 23:00.35 | PlsHelp | i have no permission to access the site |
| 23:00.41 | PlsHelp | do not know why |
| 23:00.46 | PlsHelp | broken link? |
| 23:01.17 | PlsHelp | under packaging..i see ipkg |
| 23:01.22 | PlsHelp | is that it??? |
| 23:01.26 | jdh41 | try again |
| 23:01.27 | PlsHelp | its a folder |
| 23:01.32 | jdh41 | no |
| 23:01.36 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 23:01.43 | jdh41 | you got the wrong .tar.gz file from their site |
| 23:02.00 | jdh41 | try that link again |
| 23:02.00 | PlsHelp | oic..which one should i choose then |
| 23:02.06 | PlsHelp | ok |
| 23:02.07 | jdh41 | sorry, I had the permissions set wrong |
| 23:02.51 | PlsHelp | same |
| 23:02.55 | PlsHelp | forbidden |
| 23:03.42 | jdh41 | http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~jdh41/kismet_zaurus_2.8.1_arm.ipk |
| 23:03.44 | jdh41 | try that one then |
| 23:03.48 | jdh41 | it'll work |
| 23:05.18 | PlsHelp | what next?? |
| 23:05.24 | PlsHelp | transfer to zaurus?? |
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| 23:05.29 | jdh41 | can you isntall that on your Z? |
| 23:05.38 | PlsHelp | ok..just a sec |
| 23:05.38 | jdh41 | in whatever fashion you normally do |
| 23:06.55 | jlf | hello -- anyone can help diagnose why my wcf12 wifi card isn't recognized? sl5500, rom3.1 i see the cf icon in lower right corner but no network icon |
| 23:07.12 | jlf | ifconfig -a shows only loopback and irda0, no eth0/wlan0 |
| 23:07.46 | Reddog | did you configure it under the settings/network? |
| 23:08.51 | jlf | yes .. and under the 'current' tab it says nothing available though i am 1 meter away from an access point i'm using with this laptop |
| 23:09.11 | jlf | ok 1.5 meters :) |
| 23:10.04 | Reddog | what happens if you remove and reinsert the card? |
| 23:10.39 | jlf | cf icon goes away, comes back |
| 23:11.06 | Reddog | so it IS detecting it, it's just not bringing up the interface |
| 23:11.14 | PlsHelp | jdh41: its in... |
| 23:11.19 | PlsHelp | whats next.. |
| 23:11.25 | jdh41 | did it install? |
| 23:11.39 | PlsHelp | in my Z now |
| 23:11.43 | PlsHelp | yes |
| 23:11.50 | jdh41 | can you use it? |
| 23:12.04 | PlsHelp | ok..just clickit to install?? |
| 23:12.08 | jlf | Reddog: apparently so .. is there some equivalent to lspci that shows what it thinks is int he cf slot? |
| 23:12.12 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: go for it |
| 23:12.27 | jdh41 | jlf: normally tapping the cf icon displays a list |
| 23:12.41 | jdh41 | at least it does under OZ, don't knwo about the SHARP rom |
| 23:13.28 | jlf | jdh41: when i tap cf it asks if i want to eject the card, no other options/info |
| 23:13.40 | jdh41 | jlf: oh well, worth a try |
| 23:14.06 | PlsHelp | how do i check if in installed... |
| 23:14.26 | PlsHelp | think it did... |
| 23:14.30 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: I don't actually know what i does as I don't use it myself |
| 23:14.59 | PlsHelp | oic...should i see a kismet icon... |
| 23:15.06 | PlsHelp | cos i do't.. |
| 23:15.07 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 23:15.10 | PlsHelp | dont |
| 23:15.17 | jdh41 | I don't know |
| 23:16.04 | PlsHelp | where did u get the unpacked,straight awat install ipk kismet... |
| 23:16.08 | PlsHelp | ?? |
| 23:16.17 | jdh41 | jlf: you tried http://www.uk-dave.com/tutorials/zaurus/linksys-wlan.shtml |
| 23:16.26 | PlsHelp | this installation is so much easier... |
| 23:16.29 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: I unpacked it from the .tar.gz |
| 23:16.33 | PlsHelp | just click ...thanks |
| 23:16.50 | PlsHelp | can u give me the link.... |
| 23:17.03 | PlsHelp | i unpack too..but i didmnt find this |
| 23:17.08 | PlsHelp | how come?? |
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| 23:17.20 | jdh41 | you wanted to select one from the "binaries" section of the download as opposed to the source section |
| 23:17.28 | jlf | jdh41: no i will check it out, thanks much |
| 23:17.57 | PlsHelp | which download link u click?? |
| 23:18.34 | jdh41 | on the download page on the kismet site, scroll down to the Binaries section |
| 23:18.49 | jdh41 | then select the one for "Latest arm package with Zaurus specific support is 2.8.1 on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2003 22:09:21 PST" |
| 23:19.53 | PlsHelp | ic... |
| 23:20.00 | PlsHelp | what pcap??? |
| 23:20.09 | PlsHelp | one ha..n one doesnt |
| 23:20.17 | PlsHelp | whtas the difference?? |
| 23:20.25 | PlsHelp | pcap more functionality?? |
| 23:20.36 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: as far as I can tell its a driver for a differnt type of wirelss card |
| 23:21.03 | PlsHelp | so for my orinoco gold i should stick to non pcap?? |
| 23:21.03 | jdh41 | though I could be wron |
| 23:21.06 | jdh41 | *wrong |
| 23:21.09 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: yes |
| 23:21.14 | PlsHelp | ok... |
| 23:21.28 | jdh41 | the documentation indicates pcap is only supported under OZ, not on the Sharp ROM |
| 23:21.29 | PlsHelp | so after u installed this..u winrar it... |
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| 23:22.11 | PlsHelp | thenpick out the ipk folder or file and transfer to Z..then install it |
| 23:22.25 | PlsHelp | are the procedures i describe correct?? |
| 23:24.03 | jdh41 | PlsHelp: sounds about right |
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| 23:24.54 | PlsHelp | ok..i installed kismet_qt gui already..i see the iconn.. |
| 23:25.16 | jdh41 | try using it then? |
| 23:25.28 | PlsHelp | maybe kismet's main program does not support icons..works in the background.. |
| 23:25.49 | jdh41 | probably |
| 23:25.52 | PlsHelp | yup...im in heaven...thanks u so much,really appreciate this.. |
| 23:25.58 | PlsHelp | ever so grateful |
| 23:26.30 | jdh41 | just in the future try to think before you ask questions, and in the meantime I suiggest you do a basic linux course or something |
| 23:27.03 | jdh41 | try asking about issues with that in #linux |
| 23:27.11 | jdh41 | and look at www.tldp.org |
| 23:27.24 | jdh41 | iirc they have some guides for beginners |
| 23:27.25 | PlsHelp | i want that a lot..i will junk windows box if i had the capability to operate linux.. |
| 23:27.46 | PlsHelp | where can i take courses..u mean on irc??? |
| 23:27.47 | Foxdie | unfortunately you don't |
| 23:27.51 | PlsHelp | i would love that |
| 23:27.54 | Foxdie | what do you want courses for? |
| 23:28.05 | jdh41 | though note that your zaurus doesn't neccessarily have all the function they'll describe dure to space restrictions |
| 23:28.31 | jdh41 | for example it has no help commands like man, but if you type the program name then --help it'll give you some useful info. |
| 23:28.33 | PlsHelp | yup..i understand.. |
| 23:28.59 | jdh41 | no, the courses are basically on the website |
| 23:29.10 | jdh41 | its more of a "this is how you do this guide" |
| 23:29.18 | PlsHelp | iok..i will try them on for size |
| 23:29.21 | PlsHelp | but bet u.. |
| 23:29.25 | PlsHelp | im not up to it |
| 23:29.27 | PlsHelp | :( |
| 23:29.39 | PlsHelp | but as one philosopher said.. |
| 23:29.51 | jdh41 | well try #linux if you have any problems |
| 23:29.58 | PlsHelp | if at first u dont succeed,try ntry again |
| 23:29.59 | PlsHelp | :) |
| 23:30.03 | PlsHelp | ok.. |
| 23:30.10 | PlsHelp | thanks...god bless!! |
| 23:31.31 | PlsHelp | one more question..when config must i put the orinoco into slot first?? |
| 23:31.36 | PlsHelp | or after config.. |
| 23:33.05 | Foxdie | god bless? |
| 23:33.21 | jdh41 | no idea. suggest you read the documentation on the kismet site or in the /tar/gz package |
| 23:33.30 | jdh41 | sorry .tar.gz |
| 23:33.58 | jdh41 | probably in the quick start guide if you can understand it |
| 23:36.28 | PlsHelp | ok.. |
| 23:36.31 | PlsHelp | thanks |
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