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| 02:12.49 | Mase | Can some one please tell me if it is possible to force usbnet to use UHCI instead of EHCI? |
| 02:13.00 | Mase | and if so, how you do it |
| 02:14.52 | ayrnieu | Mase - on the non-Zaurus side, I compile all the controllers as modules and load whichever one I like. |
| 02:15.12 | ayrnieu | the Zaurus doesn't have a USB controller, I suppose. |
| 02:15.59 | Mase | so if i have both ehci and uhci loaded i can just rmmod the ehci? |
| 02:16.17 | ayrnieu | I don't think that you can have both loaded at the same time. |
| 02:17.22 | Mase | well i do :) not sure why...it has done it automagically |
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| 03:16.58 | devnul | can the opie PIMS on a c860 sync with Intellisync? |
| 03:29.28 | pole | anyone have a pocketop? |
| 03:30.18 | pole | or know if the IR port can easily reach the zaurus's port? |
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| 04:08.39 | pole | anyone know what the flat-out cheapest keyboard for the zaurus would be? |
| 04:08.57 | Mase | the one that comes on it :) |
| 04:09.12 | pole | hrm, a bigger one of course... |
| 04:09.28 | Mase | nah i think they are all around the same price |
| 04:09.37 | Mase | i was looking a while back |
| 04:09.41 | pole | didnt anyone make a hack so you can use a normal ps/2 keyboard? |
| 04:10.10 | Mase | you'd have thought they would but no... |
| 04:10.28 | Mase | although you may be able to get a cf to usb one..? |
| 04:11.10 | pole | wouldnt the cf to usb adapter cost more than 60 bucks anyway? |
| 04:11.39 | Mase | yeh probably...see i live in OZ so everything is expensive when it comes to hardware |
| 04:13.00 | pole | http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=77601&_LOC=US |
| 04:13.06 | pole | cheapest targus ir keyboard i could find |
| 04:13.33 | pole | it has a swivel ir port so you can aim it directly at the ir port on the Z |
| 04:13.40 | Mase | have you thought about a non-ir one |
| 04:14.29 | pole | i dont care as long as they are cheap |
| 04:14.51 | pole | but i cant find any wired ones except for a 80 dollar one |
| 04:14.54 | pole | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3070143500&category=38332 |
| 04:15.02 | pole | i bought one of those, but no driver for the Z |
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| 04:16.32 | pole | Mase: do you know of any wired ones? |
| 04:17.38 | pole | i would actually prefer that |
| 04:17.41 | Mase | well there were these ones that i saw for the ipaqs which were really cool, they even had a little stand that you could rest you ipaq on while you were typing, i think they fit the Z's too but i can't find the name |
| 04:18.25 | pole | i'm thinking the targus wireless keyboard is the best bet... simply because the ir port swivels around |
| 04:18.48 | pole | belkin sucks cus you have to use a mirror |
| 04:18.58 | pole | palmtop also doesnt directly beam at the port |
| 04:19.07 | absentia | night |
| 04:19.42 | Mase | yeh they do look good, i just dont really like IR stuff. |
| 04:19.53 | Mase | but i guess if it works it wokrs |
| 04:20.52 | Mase | pole do you run a sharp rom or OZ? |
| 04:21.00 | pole | oz |
| 04:24.21 | pole | http://www.mb-sendai.com/zaurus/ |
| 04:24.31 | pole | ps/2 to zaurus adapter, but wrong zaurus |
| 04:24.40 | pole | not the 5500 |
| 04:25.44 | pole | http://www.mmits.com/FX100%20PPC.htm <- this would be cool, but is just too expensive for me |
| 04:28.05 | absentia | /c |
| 04:29.39 | Mase | I like the last one |
| 04:30.20 | pole | http://www.nue.org/~yamazaki/keyboard/zaurus/ |
| 04:30.32 | pole | that guy hacked a happy hacking keyboard so it will work with a zaurus |
| 04:31.12 | Mase | bah its in some asian language |
| 04:31.54 | Mase | hehe keyboard is cool |
| 04:33.27 | absentia | babelfish it |
| 04:33.27 | absentia | japanese to english? |
| 04:33.48 | Mase | nah cbb |
| 04:35.24 | Mase | is there anyone here running a sharp ROM < v3.0 and syncing under linux? |
| 04:35.57 | pole | i bable fished it and it just sucks |
| 04:37.27 | pole | i'd like to know how those guys connected that keyboard to the serial port on the Z |
| 04:37.45 | pole | i wouldnt mind choping off the end of my serial cable |
| 04:40.15 | pole | are there any serial port keyboards that you can use a null connecter with? |
| 04:49.25 | pole | http://www.aircable.net/AIRcable/Zaurus.html |
| 04:49.26 | pole | wow |
| 04:50.43 | pole | 120 bucks |
| 04:54.32 | Reddog | http://www.fivestarassoc.com/Z/ |
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| 05:06.31 | pole | http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~jpc1/linux/ipaq/serial.html |
| 05:06.51 | pole | a newton keyboard sounds real good about now... |
| 05:07.08 | pole | only if it is possible to hook it up somehow |
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| 06:17.18 | offroadgeek | can I ask a stupid question? |
| 06:17.56 | ayrnieu | Sure, but only one a day -- and you just used that one up. I hope you only plan on asking intelligent questions for the rest of the day. |
| 06:24.05 | offroadgeek | nevermind... I google'd it :) |
| 06:24.17 | offroadgeek | I don't need your smarty pants anymore |
| 06:24.29 | ayrnieu | Congratulations! |
| 06:24.30 | offroadgeek | um... that didn't come out right |
| 06:24.45 | offroadgeek | I was looking for a text to binary converter |
| 06:24.46 | ayrnieu | You may now consider yourself... a *real boy* |
| 06:24.55 | ayrnieu | off - that doesn't make any sense, but OK. |
| 06:25.05 | offroadgeek | balug = 01100010 01100001 01101100 01110101 01100111 |
| 06:25.14 | offroadgeek | does that make sense? |
| 06:25.55 | ayrnieu | off - it suggests that you want to actually translate a string of ASCII bytes into a string of space-seperated corresponding binary numerals. |
| 06:26.00 | offroadgeek | ahh... doesn't matter... just creating a stupid logo for a site |
| 06:26.28 | offroadgeek | um... sure... if you want to be very *specific* |
| 06:26.42 | offroadgeek | that's why it would have been a stupid question... didn't even know exactly what I wanted! |
| 06:26.53 | offroadgeek | I'm tired, and shouldn't be working on this anymore... but oh well |
| 06:27.06 | ayrnieu | using Forth: 2 base ! begin key . again |
| 06:27.43 | ayrnieu | change that to unixkey ( defined as : unixkey key dup 0< if bye then ; ) and to pipe ASCII strings into the program. |
| 06:28.11 | ayrnieu | There, a very tiny and simple program that'll run just fine on the Zaurus =) |
| 06:29.06 | offroadgeek | which is that? |
| 06:29.20 | ayrnieu | I don't understand your question, sorry. |
| 06:29.23 | offroadgeek | I thought there was... but figured google would find it faster |
| 06:29.34 | offroadgeek | nm... sorry.. very tired... |
| 06:29.39 | offroadgeek | blubbering... |
| 06:30.04 | ayrnieu | A port of gforth exists for the Zaurus. The aforedefined program would work with tht. |
| 06:30.07 | ayrnieu | also, that. |
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| 07:18.41 | George- | bleh |
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| 07:23.53 | Ludicrus | can sum1 help me pls? i want to get my wireless set up going on my zaurus sl-5600,im a total newbie,so pardon my stupidness if any...pls help...got all the hardware here...just need advise to get it up n runnin...Thanks! |
| 07:35.57 | Ludicrus | any1 here can help me set up my wireless card on my zaurus??pls |
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| 12:32.58 | Ludicrus | when just syncing with pc,must i switch on the power of the docking station?? |
| 12:33.01 | Ludicrus | pls help.. |
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| 13:17.16 | earHertz | After using progen to make a makefile, I'm getting "overriding commands for target `moc" and then linker errors about multiple definitions od objjects in both the moc file and the regualr cpp file |
| 13:17.23 | earHertz | What do I need to do to fix this? |
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| 14:14.21 | absentia | morn |
| 14:14.23 | absentia | morn' |
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| 14:17.34 | MG_Tak | hi absentia |
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| 14:22.07 | George- | hrmm |
| 14:22.17 | George- | hi |
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| 14:28.09 | earHertz | After using progen to make a makefile, I'm getting "overriding commands for target `moc" and then linker errors about multiple definitions od objjects in both the moc file and the regualr cpp file |
| 14:28.11 | earHertz | What do I need to do to fix this? |
| 14:30.30 | absentia | don't know |
| 14:30.31 | absentia | sorry. |
| 14:30.58 | earHertz | thanks |
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| 14:47.34 | George- | 'allo |
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| 15:02.59 | marcin_Z | hello :-) |
| 15:03.09 | jdh41 | re marcin_Z |
| 15:03.35 | marcin_Z | just trying to add ipv6 to my zaurus - anybody managed to do it? |
| 15:04.56 | marcin_Z | compiled the kernel, added module but doesn't want to load :-( |
| 15:04.58 | absentia | no |
| 15:05.37 | marcin_Z | ok, another question :-) |
| 15:05.53 | marcin_Z | if I put the new kernel on Zaurus, will I still have qt/embedded? |
| 15:06.03 | absentia | why not ? |
| 15:06.20 | marcin_Z | they say on Zaurus page, that it's not included in the distribution |
| 15:06.41 | marcin_Z | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/support/build_image_sl5500v310.htm |
| 15:06.50 | absentia | unless I mis understand.... a kernel isn't the entire os. |
| 15:07.48 | marcin_Z | I thought so |
| 15:07.52 | absentia | zImage is what you want. |
| 15:07.57 | marcin_Z | but then why they write it like this? |
| 15:07.59 | absentia | the initrd.bin is the filesystem / os... |
| 15:08.04 | absentia | but you shouldn't need that for just a new kernel |
| 15:08.09 | absentia | not sure |
| 15:08.11 | absentia | I didn't read the page fully. |
| 15:08.18 | marcin_Z | ok, so how do I install it? |
| 15:08.37 | absentia | again, be careful with what I say.. I haven't done what you are doing.. and I don't have a 5500 ... |
| 15:08.55 | absentia | on my 5600/700/760 -- I have an updater.sh and a zImage.bin file... and then I "flash" and the kernel is installed. |
| 15:10.24 | marcin_Z | ok, I'll see |
| 15:11.41 | marcin_Z | where did you get updated.sh? |
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| 15:14.32 | marcin_Z | and is the CF card needed, or I can put it in rom directly? |
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| 15:30.55 | absentia | I'm not sure if updater.sh needs to have anything special in it... or if you can use one from another kernel source.... |
| 15:31.20 | absentia | I think you should be able to use one froma normal kernel updater source package... but some have started to change the name of the zimage, etc. |
| 15:31.35 | absentia | I haven't really done much compiling from source for the Z, though. |
| 15:31.49 | absentia | I believe, on the 5x00 ... you'll need a vfat formatted CF card. |
| 15:31.59 | absentia | I do not believe there is any way to flash from the rom itself, or from sd. |
| 15:32.07 | absentia | on the clamshell, I think you can flash from sd.... |
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| 16:45.24 | absentia | n/msg pendalar hey |
| 16:45.27 | absentia | er |
| 16:45.28 | absentia | ya |
| 16:45.37 | Pendalar | =-/ try again |
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| 17:29.52 | pole | anyone ever get a stowaway working on a zaurus? |
| 17:30.13 | pole | http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~jpc1/linux/ipaq/serial.html <- or will this driver work on a zaurus? |
| 17:30.27 | pole | a newton keyboard would be awesome |
| 17:53.04 | absentia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix |
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| 21:05.06 | sofaking | is this a "general" zaurus channel, or developers, etc.? |
| 21:05.45 | warmi | all in one |
| 21:06.32 | treke|laptop | it's mostly a place where we can yell at people |
| 21:06.41 | Disconnect | s/we/kergoth/ ;) |
| 21:06.51 | treke|laptop | hehe |
| 21:07.01 | warmi | heh |
| 21:07.20 | sofaking | :) I was just wondering what a good choice in Ethernet CF cards would be. |
| 21:07.29 | sofaking | wired |
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| 21:08.01 | Disconnect | spend lots on your wireless though ;) |
| 21:08.22 | Disconnect | (Mine is a trendnet or some such. about $30, about the size of an ipaq. well not quite, but its way larger than the pic implies.) |
| 21:08.49 | sofaking | I have an Ambicom wireless CF that works great, I just want to make sure I dont buy something incompatible. |
| 21:09.00 | sofaking | I've been looking at a Zonet card recently... |
| 21:21.37 | SuN | I have a Zonet, works flawlesly. |
| 21:21.59 | SuN | +s |
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| 21:26.07 | sofaking | SuN: Thats all I needed to hear! :) |
| 21:26.16 | sofaking | Thanks! |
| 21:29.34 | SuN | It's no more than a ne2k compatible chip anyway, which has been supported by linux for ages :) |
| 21:29.57 | SuN | Oh and it autodetects in OZ 3.2, probably in other versions too. |
| 21:31.36 | SuN | Perhaps this Zonet card is the only one :) |
| 21:32.00 | SuN | Thuogh I had a Xircom CF which worked well too, also an ne2k chip. |
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| 21:41.20 | sofaking | cool, I'm going to place my order today! :) |
| 21:41.28 | sofaking | thanks for the advice! |
| 21:42.41 | sofaking | hope you all have a good day... see you later! |
| 21:42.47 | absentia | later |
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| 21:45.41 | sunny | hi guys, how do you format an MCC card ? |
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| 21:46.03 | yeiazel | put it in the water |
| 21:46.05 | yeiazel | for 10 hours |
| 21:46.10 | yeiazel | it will be formated |
| 21:46.28 | absentia | mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcda1 ? |
| 21:46.42 | absentia | mkfs.ext2 /dev/mmcada1 ? |
| 21:49.27 | sunny | doh, I lack a terminal, I haven't had a chance to figure out how to get send files from my machine to the z |
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| 22:43.32 | mteira | Hello |
| 22:43.40 | mteira | treke: Are you alive? |
| 22:44.02 | mteira | treke|wherever: Hello? |
| 22:44.16 | mteira | How many trekes are there in the world? |
| 22:44.34 | kergoth | treke|*: quick, hide |
| 22:44.53 | mteira | kergoth: :) |
| 22:45.33 | mteira | kergoth: Do you know at what time use to be here treke? |
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| 22:51.24 | mteira | Is there anybody here that can read japanese? |
| 22:51.52 | kergoth | i bet babelfish can. |
| 22:51.57 | Disconnect | not japanese... |
| 22:52.04 | Disconnect | babelfish reads euro languages. |
| 22:52.04 | kergoth | really? |
| 22:52.06 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 22:52.09 | Ludicrus | how do u download software from win98 pc hard disk to zaurus??how do u sync...step by step??pls help.. |
| 22:52.18 | Disconnect | hmm. |
| 22:52.22 | Disconnect | maybe it does now. |
| 22:52.24 | Disconnect | there is a link anyway. |
| 22:52.32 | mteira | kergoth: The automatic translations are very bad. |
| 22:52.45 | mteira | It's just for some source code translations. |
| 22:52.54 | mteira | Comments in the source code. |
| 22:53.04 | kergoth | Disconnect: heh |
| 22:53.31 | Disconnect | chinese too. the dropdown has gotten huge since I last paid attention to it. (course, I was there today for some german->english lovin) |
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