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| 00:22.10 | drpj | hi there |
| 00:23.02 | drpj | what browser is recommended for the Zaurus SL-C7X0/860? can I view flash movies on that browser? |
| 00:23.05 | offroadgeek | hi drpj |
| 00:23.41 | offroadgeek | I like netfront and opera 7... and no, you can't watch flash movies on the Z |
| 00:24.01 | drpj | offroadgeek - so you cant even visit flash driven web sites |
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| 00:24.10 | George- | hey all |
| 00:24.12 | offroadgeek | don't think so... |
| 00:24.20 | offroadgeek | hey George- |
| 00:24.24 | George- | yo |
| 00:24.25 | drpj | offroadgeek - that sucks |
| 00:24.47 | Foxdie | yo George-, are you annoying today? |
| 00:24.52 | offroadgeek | lol |
| 00:24.52 | George- | Foxdie: nah |
| 00:24.57 | offroadgeek | whew |
| 00:25.06 | Foxdie | bah I may have to give george a fiver :( |
| 00:25.08 | George- | Foxdie: dude, I made a new years resolution. |
| 00:26.07 | Foxdie | I know |
| 00:26.07 | George- | my powerbook's in vacuum cleaner mode |
| 00:26.18 | Foxdie | and I said I'd give you a fiver if you kept that resolution |
| 00:26.24 | George- | I know :P |
| 00:26.26 | George- | sucker. |
| 00:26.27 | George- | anyway |
| 00:26.31 | Foxdie | heh so I'm not the only one who reversed his computer fan flow today then? :) |
| 00:26.33 | offroadgeek | what's a fiver? |
| 00:26.46 | Foxdie | offroadgeek: slang for a five pound note, equivelant to about $8 |
| 00:26.53 | George- | Foxdie: no, I'm compiling glibc and the Motorola 7450 gets very hot... |
| 00:26.54 | offroadgeek | ah... |
| 00:27.09 | offroadgeek | all give george 60 cents if he behaves ;) |
| 00:27.11 | George- | ooh, light up keyboard thingy :D |
| 00:27.19 | George- | offroadgeek: no, better than that, buy my HTML Editor. |
| 00:27.29 | offroadgeek | which is that? |
| 00:27.32 | George- | Foxdie: how about you just buy my HTML editor instead of giving me a fiver? |
| 00:27.33 | treke|laptop | George-: your app sucks. live with it |
| 00:27.37 | George- | Foxdie: then we all benefit :P |
| 00:27.57 | George- | treke|laptop: grr |
| 00:28.02 | Foxdie | which html editor and how much does it cost? |
| 00:28.05 | offroadgeek | George-, which html editor is it? |
| 00:28.13 | George- | Foxdie: $5, search for "HTML Editor" on Handango |
| 00:28.28 | George- | and don't be really scabby and download the source and compile it yourself. |
| 00:28.54 | offroadgeek | I should do that and upload it to the zug :) |
| 00:29.03 | treke|laptop | I'd even build it for you |
| 00:29.05 | George- | offroadgeek: don't be an asshole. |
| 00:29.23 | offroadgeek | I said I should... not that I would |
| 00:29.39 | offroadgeek | watch your tongue, child |
| 00:30.17 | George- | ... glibc takes an eon to compile |
| 00:30.23 | George- | on my 667MHz PowerBook |
| 00:30.27 | offroadgeek | how about a name for the freaking thing... would make it easier to find you know |
| 00:30.35 | Foxdie | has UT been made open source yet? |
| 00:30.39 | George- | offroadgeek: what the hell am I going to name it? |
| 00:30.51 | treke|laptop | Foxdie: no |
| 00:30.56 | treke|laptop | offroadgeek: he gave you the name |
| 00:31.00 | treke|laptop | HTML Editor |
| 00:31.16 | offroadgeek | ok... there's i-html editor and html editor on handango |
| 00:31.31 | George- | offroadgeek: It's called "HTML Editor" |
| 00:31.31 | treke|laptop | it's HTML Editor |
| 00:31.40 | George- | grr |
| 00:31.50 | offroadgeek | nah.. I don't like that one... I've used better |
| 00:31.56 | George- | the light up keyboard thingy is so cool :P |
| 00:31.59 | George- | offroadgeek: ... |
| 00:32.08 | offroadgeek | what? |
| 00:32.47 | George- | :( |
| 00:32.52 | offroadgeek | I like and use html@zaurus |
| 00:33.20 | treke|laptop | tinykate forever |
| 00:33.22 | George- | what's wrong with HTML Editor? |
| 00:33.41 | George- | and anyway |
| 00:33.50 | George- | who the fucking hell wants to write HTML on a Zaurus? :) |
| 00:33.54 | Foxdie | someone needs to make a sega genesis emulator for the zaurus C series that doesn't have any slowdown |
| 00:34.01 | Foxdie | and one for the X11 ROM |
| 00:34.01 | drpj | anyone here have the ability to view websites that have flash with their zaurus? |
| 00:34.16 | George- | Foxdie: how much are you willing to pay for labour? |
| 00:34.19 | offroadgeek | I was trying to write an small scale version of the zug...for the z |
| 00:34.37 | Foxdie | George-: considering I've been unemployed for 6 months, sweet f.a. mate |
| 00:34.49 | George- | Foxdie: well, I'm not going to do it then :P |
| 00:35.13 | offroadgeek | isn't it illegal to hire a minor anyways? |
| 00:35.21 | George- | no |
| 00:35.33 | offroadgeek | aren't there child labor laws where you live? |
| 00:35.42 | George- | dunno |
| 00:35.58 | George- | HTML@Zaurus doesn't have syntax highlighting |
| 00:35.59 | George- | :P |
| 00:36.00 | offroadgeek | I suppose it only applies to sweat shops... |
| 00:36.25 | Foxdie | there isn't any kind of law like that here |
| 00:36.31 | Foxdie | but there is common sense |
| 00:36.41 | Foxdie | kids between 13-16 have paperrounds |
| 00:36.48 | offroadgeek | for most of my editing needs (other than html) I use tkc editor |
| 00:36.49 | Foxdie | 16+ can work in low payed jobs |
| 00:37.17 | George- | offroadgeek: please buy my html editor and support me :) |
| 00:37.39 | offroadgeek | it works great on the 760 (the 5500 version)... at least an older version that shawn didn't purposly change to not work... |
| 00:37.43 | Foxdie | george: I'll buy it for you in a month if you've changed |
| 00:37.49 | offroadgeek | George-, no way |
| 00:37.56 | George- | offroadgeek: why? |
| 00:38.02 | offroadgeek | I have no problem spending money... but not on you |
| 00:38.03 | George- | offroadgeek: it's not like it's going to put you out of pocket |
| 00:38.12 | George- | what have I done wrong?! |
| 00:38.30 | offroadgeek | I even donated $25 to someones paypal account towards their 760 fund... I actually told him that he should have a paypal link |
| 00:38.42 | George- | ... |
| 00:38.48 | George- | why not me then? |
| 00:38.59 | Foxdie | probably because he doesn't like you? :) |
| 00:39.05 | George- | that's unfair! |
| 00:39.06 | offroadgeek | why do you need $5 from me? |
| 00:39.19 | offroadgeek | need to buy an upgrade for one of your laptops? |
| 00:39.29 | George- | offroadgeek: because here in the UK I don't get any fricking money till I reach $100 on handango |
| 00:39.37 | offroadgeek | no thanks.... I'm all for donating for worthy causes |
| 00:39.49 | offroadgeek | George-, good luck then |
| 00:40.03 | George- | hey, why isn't it a worthy cause? |
| 00:40.08 | George- | I haven't got a penny from that yet! |
| 00:40.30 | offroadgeek | I wonder when OZ will have a paypal donation link... |
| 00:40.50 | treke|laptop | probably never |
| 00:41.02 | offroadgeek | I'd be happy to donate to their cause |
| 00:41.24 | George- | gah |
| 00:41.52 | offroadgeek | I would donate to the cacko team... but I'm already going to host their US mirror... |
| 00:42.08 | George- | so basically you're donating to everyone except me? |
| 00:42.10 | offroadgeek | and the zug bandwidth is already killing my pocketbook |
| 00:42.16 | offroadgeek | yup :) |
| 00:42.20 | George- | ... |
| 00:42.28 | offroadgeek | anyone have a paypal account that I can donate to? |
| 00:42.46 | Foxdie | offroadgeek: the ZUG runs on an acorn pocketbook?! |
| 00:42.47 | George- | ... |
| 00:42.55 | Foxdie | I do! ;) |
| 00:43.14 | freyr | where do I input openzaurus sources for ipkg to download from? |
| 00:43.16 | offroadgeek | Foxdie, no... I mean my $$ |
| 00:47.06 | George- | oh come on, support a lonely geek |
| 00:47.36 | offroadgeek | nah... I learned enough about you yesterday |
| 00:47.46 | George- | wth have I done wrong? |
| 00:47.48 | George- | I was hyper! |
| 00:48.18 | offroadgeek | George-, don't worry about it... |
| 00:48.28 | George- | ... |
| 00:48.29 | offroadgeek | just solicit the $5 from someone else |
| 00:48.34 | George- | grr |
| 00:48.45 | George- | everyone in this world is unbelievably scabby. |
| 00:48.46 | treke|laptop | George-: maybe you could say... sell one of your powerbooks |
| 00:48.54 | George- | treke|laptop: don't be stupid. |
| 00:48.55 | offroadgeek | why doesn't your nanny buy your html editor? |
| 00:48.57 | treke|laptop | you obviously arent hurting for money |
| 00:49.01 | George- | I am! |
| 00:49.02 | George- | I have no money |
| 00:49.04 | George- | ... |
| 00:49.05 | treke|laptop | at least your parents arent |
| 00:49.08 | George- | well, I have £20. |
| 00:49.23 | offroadgeek | when do you get your next allowance? |
| 00:49.29 | George- | I don't get an allowance. |
| 00:49.35 | offroadgeek | lol |
| 00:49.46 | George- | what's so funny? |
| 00:49.59 | offroadgeek | nm |
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| 00:51.03 | George- | I need a book on game physics |
| 00:52.05 | George- | hrmm, I need to redownload my SDK |
| 00:52.25 | George- | christ, it's 19MB |
| 00:53.12 | Foxdie | I have a book on bluetooth |
| 00:53.22 | Foxdie | cost me like £40 / $60 |
| 00:53.31 | Foxdie | most expensive book I ever bought |
| 00:53.39 | Foxdie | and do you know why I bought it? to see if bluetooth could be hacked |
| 00:54.26 | George- | Foxdie: see, you have money to waste |
| 00:54.39 | Foxdie | George-: that was six months ago |
| 00:55.07 | Foxdie | when I had a credit card at least £1500 left on it |
| 00:55.27 | George- | ... |
| 00:55.44 | George- | I need to write that bloody pinball game :( |
| 00:55.50 | George- | at least I have a commercial Qt license |
| 00:57.20 | treke|laptop | maybe you should write something new |
| 00:58.42 | Captain-Obvious | anyone gone to Penguicon? |
| 01:01.56 | George- | treke|laptop: ? |
| 01:02.38 | treke|laptop | George-: you know, write something that someone might actually like using |
| 01:02.47 | George- | treke|laptop: like a pinball game/. |
| 01:03.11 | treke|laptop | and then when that happens, maybe someone will actually pay for it |
| 01:03.18 | George- | .. |
| 01:03.19 | George- | bleh |
| 01:03.24 | George- | I'm too stupid though |
| 01:03.29 | George- | I can't write much stuff |
| 01:03.29 | George- | lol |
| 01:03.34 | George- | oh well |
| 01:03.39 | George- | I'll go back to KDE Development |
| 01:03.44 | George- | at least they're friendly |
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| 01:05.05 | treke|laptop | they just dont know you well enough |
| 01:06.11 | George- | treke|laptop: I've hung out on the KDE chans for longer than the Zaurus |
| 01:14.59 | Foxdie | nn all |
| 01:26.10 | George- | Foxdie: yeh, go away. |
| 01:26.17 | George- | anyway, brb - rebooting |
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| 01:28.29 | treke|laptop | w |
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| 01:32.17 | freyr | bah.... i installed opie-task-games but then I get all these qt errors |
| 01:32.24 | freyr | image is null and such when i run it |
| 01:39.34 | ljp | stop using those null images, then |
| 01:40.47 | freyr | ljp: should ipkg put links to these programs on my opie desktop? Im wondering because maybe its not installing properly? |
| 01:41.04 | freyr | ljp: why would tetris have null images in the first place and if it does why is it in stable? |
| 01:41.16 | treke|home | most apps have null image errors coming |
| 01:41.20 | treke|home | out of them |
| 01:41.42 | treke|home | you just ignore them |
| 01:41.53 | jcsitte | Interesting |
| 01:41.56 | freyr | treke|home: do applications generally install onto your desktop? or do i have to do that myself? |
| 01:42.05 | treke|home | they get installed onto the desktop |
| 01:42.16 | treke|home | you have to restart if you insalled them from a console |
| 01:42.24 | ljp | depends on if you install them to cf/sd |
| 01:42.36 | freyr | treke|home: logout/login ok? |
| 01:42.39 | freyr | ljp: how so? |
| 01:42.47 | treke|home | yeah if you installed them to cf without using ipkg-link it wont work |
| 01:42.58 | jcsitte | Does qtopia desktop work on linux with sl-5600? |
| 01:43.04 | ljp | freyr: which rom? |
| 01:43.07 | treke|home | jcsitte: no |
| 01:43.17 | ljp | not the QD from TT |
| 01:43.21 | freyr | 3.35 open zaurus |
| 01:43.28 | jcsitte | okies |
| 01:43.32 | jcsitte | just wondering |
| 01:43.35 | treke|home | freyr: then probably |
| 01:43.39 | ljp | you install them to cf or sd? |
| 01:45.32 | jcsitte | is sl-5600 development not talked about much? |
| 01:45.38 | jcsitte | I guess no one has one yet ;) |
| 01:45.39 | jcsitte | heh |
| 01:46.03 | Bryan_W | eh? |
| 01:46.31 | ljp | no one really has 5600 |
| 01:46.43 | jcsitte | except me |
| 01:46.43 | Bryan_W | why? |
| 01:46.45 | jcsitte | lol |
| 01:47.26 | Bryan_W | there is something wrong with my zaurus :( |
| 01:47.46 | Bryan_W | whenever I go to sync it, I have to reboot it |
| 01:48.01 | jcsitte | huh? |
| 01:48.03 | jcsitte | wierd |
| 01:48.06 | jcsitte | what did you do? |
| 01:48.33 | Bryan_W | I don't know |
| 01:48.48 | jcsitte | install anything odd lately? |
| 01:48.50 | jcsitte | what rom? |
| 01:49.56 | Bryan_W | sharp 3.1 |
| 01:50.05 | jcsitte | I would not know about that one |
| 01:50.11 | jcsitte | since I have the 5600 |
| 01:50.15 | jcsitte | is it stable? |
| 01:50.34 | jcsitte | should be since its an official sharp rom... |
| 01:50.35 | jcsitte | odd |
| 01:50.38 | jcsitte | wierd |
| 01:51.37 | Bryan_W | it has always been weird in one way or another |
| 01:51.54 | jcsitte | since you got it? |
| 01:51.59 | jcsitte | hmmm |
| 01:52.02 | Bryan_W | yeah |
| 01:52.14 | jcsitte | I noticed my screen flickers once in awhile |
| 01:52.30 | jcsitte | I assume its a drawing bug or something |
| 01:52.33 | Bryan_W | at first it would only keep a connection for about 10 mins at most |
| 01:52.49 | jcsitte | hmmm |
| 01:52.49 | freyr | if no -d is specified to ipkg it will use the first one in ipkg.conf? |
| 01:53.00 | Bryan_W | then I messed around in the network settings and "fixed" it |
| 01:53.04 | Bryan_W | now this |
| 01:53.45 | jcsitte | well good luck |
| 01:53.48 | jcsitte | dinner time for me |
| 01:53.49 | Bryan_W | by network settings I mean /etc/hotplug/usb* |
| 01:53.52 | jcsitte | back later |
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| 02:33.43 | tanq | wow didnt know this channel was here |
| 02:34.31 | dfgdfg | oh its here |
| 02:34.35 | tanq | heh |
| 02:34.39 | dfgdfg | hrmm |
| 02:34.45 | ljp | been here for two years |
| 02:34.53 | dfgdfg | i was born here |
| 02:40.31 | ljp | I invented irc |
| 02:42.13 | dfgdfg | wow |
| 02:43.18 | Bryan_W | USER no way he :could've done that |
| 02:43.54 | freyr | does ipkg not make links on the opie desktop? |
| 02:44.08 | ljp | old enough to know how to please surfgirls |
| 02:44.38 | ljp | freyr: if you installed to cf/sd run this command |
| 02:44.59 | ljp | ipk-link mount /mnt/cf or /mnt/card for sd |
| 02:45.08 | ljp | ipkg-link |
| 02:45.45 | freyr | ljp: oh i get it... that goes through and creates the links for me? |
| 02:45.56 | freyr | aoipkg does it for me automatically? |
| 02:47.25 | ljp | hmm, dont think so.. |
| 02:47.28 | ljp | maybe |
| 02:47.55 | freyr | ljp: well it was working when i installed from opie package manager but when i did from command line... not so |
| 02:47.56 | freyr | i will test |
| 02:48.47 | warmi_ | happy new year dudes |
| 02:49.08 | dfgdfg | grazi |
| 02:54.31 | jcsitte | ljp: I added bmon on zsi |
| 02:54.33 | jcsitte | :) |
| 02:54.43 | jcsitte | Hope I did it right |
| 02:54.44 | jcsitte | heh |
| 02:54.49 | jcsitte | looks right |
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| 03:01.06 | newb2 | hi |
| 03:01.34 | newb2 | is the zaurus capable of viewing web sites programs written in C, C++, PHP, and Perl? |
| 03:02.05 | tanq | newb2: since those are client side languages it shouldnt matter |
| 03:02.13 | tanq | er server side languages |
| 03:02.31 | newb2 | tanq - what types of websites, if any, can't be viewed using the zaurus? |
| 03:02.46 | tanq | i would say just about anywebsite... |
| 03:02.58 | tanq | you will probably have issues with some dhtml websites |
| 03:03.05 | tanq | and u cant view flash |
| 03:03.15 | freyr | is opie media player2 uninstallable in OZ stable stream right now? Actually i think the prob was with libxine1 |
| 03:03.25 | Bryan_W | not even independtly? |
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| 03:03.35 | newb2 | tanq - why cant flash be viewed?> |
| 03:03.43 | jcsitte | hmmm |
| 03:03.52 | jcsitte | flash for qtopia would be nice |
| 03:04.00 | Bryan_W | I concur |
| 03:04.01 | jcsitte | I doubt that will ever happen thuogh |
| 03:04.03 | tanq | because macromedia hasnt written a plugin for embedded linux |
| 03:04.11 | jcsitte | macromedia is a bunch of bastards |
| 03:04.24 | jcsitte | same with ppc linux |
| 03:04.26 | newb2 | damn macromedia |
| 03:04.26 | jcsitte | no flash |
| 03:04.27 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:04.32 | jcsitte | damn them indeed |
| 03:04.46 | newb2 | though I still love dreamweaver |
| 03:05.09 | jcsitte | its ok |
| 03:05.26 | jcsitte | I can do with or without it |
| 03:05.44 | jcsitte | unless you want to do deep coding |
| 03:05.51 | jcsitte | I would say dreamweaver rocks at that |
| 03:05.55 | dfgdfg | i deep code. |
| 03:06.00 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:06.10 | jcsitte | code your hearts content |
| 03:06.24 | jcsitte | that is why I use OSX windows linux and embedded linux |
| 03:06.34 | jcsitte | then I can use any software I need for each purpose |
| 03:06.35 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:06.44 | dfgdfg | i smoke blunts. |
| 03:06.52 | jcsitte | I don't have a millenia to wait for stuff to be ported |
| 03:06.54 | jcsitte | hmmm |
| 03:06.57 | dfgdfg | or the funk, not beesters or schwag |
| 03:07.02 | jcsitte | lol |
| 03:07.38 | freyr | ext2 or ext3 better for SD card on zaurus? |
| 03:07.44 | jcsitte | hmmm |
| 03:07.49 | jcsitte | I use the default format |
| 03:07.57 | jcsitte | so I can use it on my hp printer too |
| 03:07.59 | freyr | jcsitte: no simlinks |
| 03:08.02 | freyr | in vfat |
| 03:08.16 | jcsitte | I use the SD to store pictures and mp3s |
| 03:08.20 | jcsitte | no need to reformat |
| 03:08.29 | jcsitte | general storage for me |
| 03:08.30 | freyr | jcsitte: where do you install stuff? |
| 03:08.37 | jcsitte | sl-5600 |
| 03:08.42 | jcsitte | on the device itself |
| 03:08.45 | jcsitte | lots of room |
| 03:09.07 | dfgdfg | i use dos file system. |
| 03:09.20 | jcsitte | 5788 kB used 30084 free |
| 03:09.38 | jcsitte | my SD is 512MB |
| 03:09.49 | jcsitte | so its got plenty of room for pics |
| 03:09.50 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:10.04 | freyr | jcsitte: why so little apps? |
| 03:10.14 | jcsitte | what else do I need? |
| 03:10.21 | jcsitte | I have most of what I need already |
| 03:10.22 | freyr | i dunno |
| 03:10.32 | freyr | i wonder if i can dual boot |
| 03:10.40 | jcsitte | other than a working xmms and gaim |
| 03:10.49 | jcsitte | i have 32 installed apps already |
| 03:10.55 | jcsitte | how many you have? |
| 03:10.57 | freyr | dunno |
| 03:11.00 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:11.01 | freyr | just got this thing :) |
| 03:11.04 | jcsitte | :) |
| 03:11.09 | jcsitte | they dont take up much space |
| 03:11.12 | freyr | im pretty happy |
| 03:11.14 | jcsitte | the apps are tiny |
| 03:11.21 | freyr | although i spent the day trying to get usbnetworking up |
| 03:11.30 | jcsitte | You have that working? |
| 03:11.34 | freyr | yep |
| 03:11.37 | jcsitte | I never got it to work yet |
| 03:11.46 | freyr | oh its easy to get the networking up |
| 03:11.50 | freyr | it was the NAT |
| 03:11.55 | freyr | I had to do double nat |
| 03:12.05 | freyr | because my laptop is already NAT'd to the net |
| 03:12.20 | dfgdfg | i'm NAT'd. |
| 03:12.36 | jcsitte | I will bother with it later |
| 03:12.40 | George- | moo |
| 03:12.44 | jcsitte | I have wireless working well |
| 03:12.53 | freyr | jcsitte: i wouldnt even care but my wireless card is in the mail |
| 03:12.57 | freyr | im not going to wait for that crap :) |
| 03:12.59 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:13.25 | treke|home | good lord. when will they stop airing the rose parade |
| 03:15.12 | dfgdfg | hopefully never |
| 03:15.28 | George- | good lord. when will treke die |
| 03:16.41 | treke|home | I will haunt you from the grave |
| 03:17.08 | dfgdfg | that's fucking terrifying |
| 03:18.16 | ljp | just like in Scooby-doo |
| 03:18.37 | dfgdfg | that's fucking terrifying |
| 03:19.23 | treke|home | very true |
| 03:20.22 | ljp | no its not |
| 03:20.29 | dfgdfg | it is |
| 03:20.44 | dfgdfg | i'm also very scared of the ghost train from the timmy the train series |
| 03:20.46 | ljp | I hear treke is about as manly as Jacko |
| 03:21.32 | dfgdfg | that's fucking terrifying |
| 03:26.08 | treke|home | dont make me swim over there and get GTK on your ass |
| 03:26.21 | dfgdfg | that's fucking terrifying |
| 03:28.17 | ChipX86 | lucky :( |
| 03:28.34 | treke|home | ChipX86: I dunno. Working for ximian doesnt seem like a smart idea |
| 03:28.41 | ChipX86 | why's that? |
| 03:28.57 | treke|home | you mean other than the two ximian employees who have died in the past 2 months? |
| 03:29.13 | ChipX86 | treke|home: guess I shouldn't live in this family either |
| 03:29.20 | dfgdfg | i work for ximian |
| 03:29.23 | ChipX86 | I'd better change my name and residence quick |
| 03:29.35 | treke|home | dfgdfg: bye bye |
| 03:29.45 | ChipX86 | treke|home: I'd actually really like to work there |
| 03:29.47 | ljp | ~kill dfgdfg |
| 03:29.51 | | ACTION shoots a inverse anti-positrino gun at dfgdfg |
| 03:30.01 | dfgdfg | woah |
| 03:30.06 | ljp | :) |
| 03:30.16 | treke|home | ChipX86: yeah, their actually doing some cool stuff |
| 03:30.41 | ChipX86 | treke|home: yeah, I know. I'm in contact with many of them, and plan to help out with some really cool stuff :) |
| 03:31.20 | treke|home | as much as I dont like the general philosphy of parts of gnome 2, they have some interesting side projects in the works for it |
| 03:31.40 | ChipX86 | got a patch going into Evolution soonish, and some neat stuff currently sitting in a cvs tree on my box |
| 03:31.47 | treke|home | particularlly dashboard and gnome storage |
| 03:31.50 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:32.17 | jcsitte | you talked about gtk on zaurus> |
| 03:32.19 | jcsitte | ? |
| 03:32.22 | ChipX86 | bbl, visiting family next door |
| 03:32.30 | jcsitte | how well does that run? |
| 03:32.38 | treke|home | we did? when? |
| 03:32.50 | jcsitte | does it run? |
| 03:32.58 | treke|home | sure, just install x |
| 03:33.01 | ljp | gtk should really be a wrapper around Qt |
| 03:33.10 | jcsitte | I agree |
| 03:33.15 | dfgdfg | i'm a wrapper. |
| 03:33.15 | treke|home | nah, do it the other way around and I'd be happy |
| 03:33.37 | jcsitte | you mean like redhat? |
| 03:33.44 | jcsitte | running gtk as default |
| 03:33.50 | treke|home | erm no |
| 03:33.50 | ljp | you cant cause there no central company creating gtk |
| 03:34.05 | jcsitte | I donno |
| 03:34.06 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:34.07 | treke|home | why does it need a central company? |
| 03:34.10 | jcsitte | as long as it works |
| 03:34.13 | ljp | umm. just cause |
| 03:34.26 | jcsitte | qt is just fine |
| 03:34.34 | jcsitte | its not very kde like anyways |
| 03:34.36 | treke|home | too bad qt is ugly as sin |
| 03:34.41 | jcsitte | its qtopia :) |
| 03:34.42 | treke|home | and gpl |
| 03:35.00 | ljp | qt isnt only gpl |
| 03:35.01 | jcsitte | mine looks fine |
| 03:35.08 | jcsitte | I use a mix of themes |
| 03:35.11 | treke|home | gpl or 1500 bucks |
| 03:35.13 | jcsitte | metal and flat themes |
| 03:35.24 | jcsitte | looks dandy |
| 03:35.26 | ljp | metal! |
| 03:35.34 | jcsitte | with my own custom wallpaper |
| 03:35.35 | ljp | ha! someone uses my creation! |
| 03:35.46 | jcsitte | its sweet |
| 03:35.54 | jcsitte | I just changed the top bar |
| 03:36.00 | jcsitte | I use the flat one instead |
| 03:36.17 | jcsitte | zflat |
| 03:36.22 | jcsitte | for title bar |
| 03:36.53 | jcsitte | its very nice if you ask me |
| 03:37.10 | jcsitte | :) |
| 03:37.17 | jcsitte | ljp knows what he is doing... |
| 03:37.23 | ljp | bastards always give me crap about metal |
| 03:37.28 | jcsitte | I didn't go for ljp packages |
| 03:37.33 | jcsitte | just looks and runs the best |
| 03:37.46 | jcsitte | why is that? |
| 03:37.52 | jcsitte | it has the best scroll bar |
| 03:37.55 | ljp | no opie devs lilke it |
| 03:37.58 | jcsitte | the buttons look great too |
| 03:38.06 | jcsitte | well poo on them |
| 03:38.16 | jcsitte | the other thems are too candy looking |
| 03:38.22 | jcsitte | err themes |
| 03:38.36 | dfgdfg | jcsitte, watch it |
| 03:38.40 | jcsitte | I think you just need to change your titkle bar |
| 03:38.42 | jcsitte | err title |
| 03:38.43 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:38.51 | jcsitte | make the title bar more metal looking |
| 03:38.55 | jcsitte | like the scrool bar |
| 03:38.56 | jcsitte | :)) |
| 03:39.04 | jcsitte | then I would use it exclusively |
| 03:39.05 | treke|home | make it look more like gtk |
| 03:39.12 | ljp | I just ported the metal theme from qt |
| 03:39.16 | ljp | :) |
| 03:39.20 | jcsitte | it roxors |
| 03:39.33 | jcsitte | title bar just needs to integrate more |
| 03:39.42 | jcsitte | treke|home: make one |
| 03:39.48 | jcsitte | a gtk theme would be rocken |
| 03:39.57 | jcsitte | a bluecurve would be funny too |
| 03:39.58 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:40.09 | treke|home | hehe |
| 03:40.14 | jcsitte | a suse one would be an interesting one too |
| 03:40.22 | jcsitte | I am surprised there arent more themes |
| 03:40.27 | jcsitte | just crystal ones |
| 03:40.28 | jcsitte | :/ |
| 03:40.41 | treke|home | didnt shawn give you the source for the theme? |
| 03:40.42 | jcsitte | ljp: I was wondering about that |
| 03:40.50 | ljp | not me. sandman had it |
| 03:40.53 | jcsitte | I asked about the tkc theme |
| 03:40.59 | jcsitte | no reply |
| 03:41.05 | jcsitte | I love their scroll bar |
| 03:41.06 | treke|home | ag |
| 03:41.36 | jcsitte | scrollbar is important because its the first thing you see |
| 03:41.45 | jcsitte | zlime and such are icky |
| 03:41.55 | jcsitte | the scroll bar was not my thing at all |
| 03:42.00 | treke|home | ljp: what would be cooler would be a qtopia phone theme |
| 03:42.03 | jcsitte | it did not seem to integrate well |
| 03:42.07 | jcsitte | lol |
| 03:42.10 | jcsitte | phone theme |
| 03:42.11 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:42.21 | ljp | treke: dont know what your talking about |
| 03:42.37 | jcsitte | :/ |
| 03:42.39 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:42.41 | treke|home | ljp: The theme use on qtopia for phones. |
| 03:42.58 | jcsitte | screen shot? |
| 03:43.01 | jcsitte | never seen it |
| 03:43.05 | ljp | qtropia for whhaa?! |
| 03:43.15 | treke|home | ah screw you :) |
| 03:43.43 | ljp | work is being done on theming |
| 03:43.59 | freyr | umm for opie media player 2 what library do i need for divx4? I can hear audio but just see a line across. Any ideas? |
| 03:44.02 | jcsitte | who is working on the themese? |
| 03:44.19 | treke|home | ljp: the theme that was pasted all over trolltechs website |
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| 03:45.20 | ljp | theres no screenies at TT.com. they are on linuxdevices |
| 03:45.38 | jcsitte | where are they? |
| 03:46.25 | jcsitte | hah |
| 03:46.30 | jcsitte | there is filewalker again |
| 03:46.34 | jcsitte | anyone ever use that? |
| 03:46.42 | jcsitte | i have not seen that thing in awhile |
| 03:47.06 | ljp | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2574901485.html |
| 03:47.11 | jcsitte | http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4520490885.html |
| 03:47.15 | jcsitte | that one is scary |
| 03:47.17 | jcsitte | lol |
| 03:47.49 | jcsitte | thats an odd phone |
| 03:48.45 | jcsitte | http://linuxdevices.com/files/misc/qtopia_phone.jpg |
| 03:48.47 | jcsitte | that even real? |
| 03:48.53 | jcsitte | looks 3d to me |
| 03:49.13 | ljp | not the phone.. the screenshots. |
| 03:49.40 | ljp | that 'phone' is a skin for qvfb |
| 03:49.43 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:49.45 | jcsitte | there we go |
| 03:49.53 | Captain-Obvious | werid... |
| 03:50.14 | jcsitte | metal is better |
| 03:50.15 | jcsitte | :) |
| 03:50.18 | treke|home | hmmm. Some of that looks oddly like opie apps |
| 03:50.21 | Captain-Obvious | aqpkg says the program is installed, but it doesnt show up in the launcher |
| 03:50.38 | Captain-Obvious | even after useing ipkg-link |
| 03:51.29 | jcsitte | linux sure is sneaking in the cracks these days |
| 03:51.34 | freyr | fudge... how do I make a video that I can play on opie-mplayer2 |
| 03:51.39 | jcsitte | pretty soon there will be linux microwaves |
| 03:51.44 | freyr | all i see is black and some red rectangles |
| 03:51.58 | ljp | treke: you mean opie apps look like qtopia |
| 03:52.02 | jcsitte | this is why I dont use opie-mplayer2 |
| 03:52.11 | freyr | jcsitte: what do you use? |
| 03:52.17 | treke|home | ljp: no, the voice recorder app looks like opie-vmemo-settings :p |
| 03:52.19 | jcsitte | the sharp player |
| 03:52.20 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:52.39 | jcsitte | I convert all my videos to be smaller anyways |
| 03:52.57 | jcsitte | I make the 240 X * and make them standard mpgs |
| 03:53.04 | jcsitte | then I dont have to deal with divx and avis |
| 03:53.16 | jcsitte | they are too big otherwise |
| 03:53.22 | jcsitte | you can down the colors too |
| 03:53.30 | jcsitte | the player does not need full color either |
| 03:53.47 | jcsitte | last I checked the screen does not show full vga anyways |
| 03:53.56 | ljp | treke: it's actually a decendent of qtopia voice recorder in 1.7 |
| 03:54.08 | ljp | they only show the configuration |
| 03:54.14 | treke|home | which is a decendent of opie-vmemo? :p |
| 03:54.21 | jcsitte | interesting |
| 03:54.36 | ljp | no. vmemo was written by someone else, and is an applet |
| 03:54.56 | jcsitte | why is qtopia and opie seperate anyways? |
| 03:55.07 | jcsitte | copyright issues? |
| 03:55.11 | ljp | no |
| 03:55.12 | treke|home | because qtopia is developed internally at trolltech |
| 03:55.19 | jcsitte | I see. |
| 03:55.26 | jcsitte | Just like qt then |
| 03:55.30 | treke|home | and people wanted to fix things trolltech didnt want to fix publically |
| 03:56.00 | ljp | change is more like it, not fix |
| 03:56.05 | jcsitte | I see |
| 03:56.08 | treke|home | ljp: Fix also |
| 03:56.20 | jcsitte | I am happy with mixing stuff together |
| 03:56.28 | treke|home | trolltech wasnt fixing things at all |
| 03:56.37 | jcsitte | that sucks |
| 03:56.47 | jcsitte | what was broken? |
| 03:56.50 | jcsitte | what is broken? |
| 03:56.59 | treke|home | jcsitte: little things were, like the address book :) |
| 03:57.01 | jcsitte | my default software seems pretty good on my sl-5600 |
| 03:57.12 | jcsitte | whats broken on that? |
| 03:57.23 | jcsitte | mine seems to work |
| 03:57.24 | jcsitte | :/ |
| 03:57.27 | treke|home | Erm, it couldnt save properly |
| 03:57.36 | treke|home | phone numbers would be saved as addresses |
| 03:57.42 | treke|home | addresses as birthdays |
| 03:57.45 | treke|home | that sort of thing |
| 03:58.13 | jcsitte | really? |
| 03:58.17 | jcsitte | still broken? |
| 03:58.20 | jcsitte | seems to be ok on mine |
| 03:58.21 | jcsitte | :/ |
| 03:58.22 | jcsitte | odd |
| 03:58.23 | Captain-Obvious | w00t! |
| 03:58.23 | Captain-Obvious | it works |
| 03:58.23 | Captain-Obvious | gaim |
| 03:58.37 | treke|home | jcsitte: Obviously it was fixed for the zaurus |
| 03:58.41 | jcsitte | heh |
| 03:58.46 | treke|home | and it obviously was fixed internally |
| 03:58.54 | jcsitte | gaim who what |
| 03:58.55 | treke|home | but it was like that for quite a while on public cvs |
| 03:58.57 | jcsitte | it works for you? |
| 03:59.15 | jcsitte | oh well |
| 03:59.16 | Captain-Obvious | there is still problems with the opie address book |
| 03:59.17 | ljp | thats because they got tired of keeping up the cvs |
| 03:59.41 | jcsitte | captain: gaim works for you? |
| 03:59.42 | treke|home | which was a good reason for opie to fork |
| 03:59.48 | jcsitte | I dont have text on mine |
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| 04:00.03 | ljp | but there were the source snapshots |
| 04:00.22 | treke|home | yes, there was 1.4 |
| 04:00.23 | jcsitte | opie planning on making newer 5600 stuff anytime soon? |
| 04:00.42 | ljp | you mean OZ |
| 04:00.48 | treke|home | I dont recall snapshots happening until 1.6 |
| 04:00.56 | jcsitte | hmmm |
| 04:02.39 | chouimat | happy new year to all |
| 04:03.08 | jcsitte | you too |
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| 04:05.55 | tcg23 | question: is the Sl-5600 worth the price compared to the Sl-5600? |
| 04:06.11 | newb2 | what are the top programs to get for the zaurus sl-c7x0/860 series? |
| 04:06.18 | jcsitte | top apps? |
| 04:06.23 | jcsitte | what do you like to use? |
| 04:06.25 | treke|home | top |
| 04:06.28 | jcsitte | what do you wnat to do with it |
| 04:06.29 | jcsitte | heh |
| 04:06.47 | jcsitte | top |
| 04:06.48 | jcsitte | lol |
| 04:06.52 | Bryan_W | lol |
| 04:06.59 | newb2 | jcsitte - everything, from word processing to play games |
| 04:07.28 | jcsitte | http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/ |
| 04:07.31 | jcsitte | look in there |
| 04:07.37 | jcsitte | everything is there man |
| 04:07.40 | jcsitte | just search around |
| 04:07.55 | newb2 | ok thnx |
| 04:08.05 | newb2 | whats the best word processing and excel type software? |
| 04:08.07 | ljp | best apps are written by ljp |
| 04:08.35 | jcsitte | lol |
| 04:08.40 | jcsitte | get the metal theme |
| 04:08.42 | jcsitte | :) |
| 04:09.54 | newb2 | can I get hancom word/excel to work on tkc rom? |
| 04:10.53 | jcsitte | I think that would work |
| 04:11.08 | jcsitte | What do you like about the tkc rom? |
| 04:11.09 | newb2 | sweet |
| 04:11.16 | jcsitte | google that to make sure |
| 04:11.21 | jcsitte | I don't know for sure |
| 04:11.34 | newb2 | jcsitte - I dont know yet, it fucked up when I tried to install it |
| 04:11.48 | jcsitte | hmmm |
| 04:11.52 | newb2 | so now I have to wait for the stores to open tomorrow to get a compactflash card reader/writer |
| 04:11.57 | jcsitte | I did not like it on my 5600 |
| 04:12.03 | jcsitte | installing apps were all messed up for me |
| 04:12.06 | newb2 | x11 is too damn slow |
| 04:12.11 | jcsitte | I tried all of them |
| 04:12.19 | jcsitte | went back to sharp rom in the end |
| 04:12.26 | newb2 | sharp has an english rom? |
| 04:12.29 | jcsitte | 5600 not ready for custom roms it seems yet |
| 04:12.47 | freyr | If i have an ipk how do i install it? |
| 04:12.52 | freyr | If im not using a feed that is |
| 04:13.06 | newb2 | jcsitte - is openzaurus good? |
| 04:14.11 | jcsitte | what hardware do you have? |
| 04:14.21 | jcsitte | i heard its nice for 5500 |
| 04:14.26 | jcsitte | 5600 is borked still |
| 04:14.51 | ljp | send me a 5600 and I will work on it |
| 04:15.04 | jcsitte | you wish |
| 04:15.05 | jcsitte | :) |
| 04:15.15 | newb2 | jcsitte - i have the 860 |
| 04:15.23 | ljp | ok, then get my boss to ok a 5600 purchase |
| 04:15.39 | matr1x | is he succeptable to hypnotism? cause ive got a book |
| 04:16.03 | jcsitte | do it |
| 04:16.05 | jcsitte | make it happen |
| 04:16.08 | matr1x | cant you write it off as a tax expense? |
| 04:16.11 | jcsitte | buy ljp a 5600 |
| 04:17.48 | tcg23 | are the 5500s nice? I'm looking at getting one, rather than a 5600 because of the price. |
| 04:18.02 | matr1x | i bought one |
| 04:18.16 | ljp | actually, I would rather get a 860 |
| 04:18.24 | tcg23 | yah, tigerdirect has them for 180 refurbished and warrantied. |
| 04:18.26 | ljp | I might be able to get that model |
| 04:18.27 | jcsitte | I would too |
| 04:18.32 | jcsitte | but this is what I got for xmas |
| 04:18.32 | matr1x | apparently the difference is the 5600 has a faster chip, but its x86 based i believe? so it ends up being the same speed, but its got better battery life |
| 04:18.32 | jcsitte | heh |
| 04:18.36 | tcg23 | I've only looked at the 5500 and 5600 |
| 04:18.39 | matr1x | but then again probably not much better |
| 04:18.48 | matr1x | i bought myself a 5500 for christmas |
| 04:18.58 | tcg23 | hehe, well the 5500 is what, 400 bucks cheaper than the 5600 |
| 04:19.13 | tanq | yeah no shit |
| 04:19.16 | matr1x | really? |
| 04:19.17 | matr1x | wow |
| 04:19.22 | jcsitte | odd indeed |
| 04:19.28 | tcg23 | 5600 is like 600 bucks, 5500 is like 180 |
| 04:19.28 | tanq | not really but its like half the price |
| 04:19.32 | tanq | no.. |
| 04:19.36 | tanq | the 5600 is 499 |
| 04:19.41 | tcg23 | ooh.. |
| 04:19.44 | tanq | the 5500 is 230 or so |
| 04:19.47 | jcsitte | 56000 has great battery |
| 04:19.53 | tanq | if you can buy it anymore |
| 04:20.00 | tanq | i tried to buy a 5500 and couldnt find one |
| 04:20.00 | tcg23 | 5500 is a 206mhz strong arm, 5600 is 400mhz |
| 04:20.10 | tanq | and the 5600 has a speaker |
| 04:20.13 | jcsitte | 5600 has been good to me |
| 04:20.21 | tcg23 | I'd like a 56000 too, but I would imagine it would cost more than a 5600 =p |
| 04:20.21 | jcsitte | other than the ram issue with opera |
| 04:20.28 | jcsitte | i run out sometimes |
| 04:20.36 | jcsitte | then again i am going to cnn.com |
| 04:20.36 | jcsitte | heh |
| 04:20.40 | jcsitte | lot of pics and crap |
| 04:20.47 | jcsitte | lol |
| 04:20.49 | tcg23 | jcsitte, sorry just picking on your type |
| 04:20.50 | jcsitte | 5600 |
| 04:20.52 | tanq | msnbc.com is worse than cnn.com on mine |
| 04:20.56 | tanq | heh |
| 04:20.59 | newb2 | nextag |
| 04:21.01 | jcsitte | ah yes |
| 04:21.03 | tcg23 | so the 5600 has a speaker and the 5500 doesn't, thats no big deal |
| 04:21.12 | jcsitte | depends on what you want |
| 04:21.27 | tanq | unless you want to listen to something and you forgot your headphones |
| 04:21.28 | jcsitte | xscale is great for power saving |
| 04:21.32 | tcg23 | matr1x, have you loaded a new ROM on yours, or do you like the default apps? |
| 04:21.35 | tcg23 | tanq, true.. |
| 04:21.39 | jcsitte | I charge mine 5600 every 3 days |
| 04:21.47 | matr1x | i actually havent gotten it yet cause of the christmas holidays |
| 04:21.52 | jcsitte | sometimes more or less depending on use |
| 04:21.56 | matr1x | i expect to get it either tomorrow or early next week |
| 04:22.01 | tcg23 | cool |
| 04:22.05 | matr1x | ive just been doing a lot of research on it |
| 04:22.31 | matr1x | cant you get music from the 5500 buzzer? |
| 04:22.35 | matr1x | isnt there a hack to do that? |
| 04:22.40 | tcg23 | matr1x, yah, I looked at the 5600 a few months ago but dismissed the idea cause of the cost, didn't realize the 5500 so cheap |
| 04:22.41 | tanq | ? |
| 04:23.03 | tcg23 | I paid more for my Palm III Xe than the 5500 sells for. lol |
| 04:24.09 | jcsitte | I would go with 5500 if I was the one paying for it |
| 04:24.10 | jcsitte | heh |
| 04:24.31 | tcg23 | yah, 180 refurb, not pad. |
| 04:24.36 | jcsitte | how long does 5500 batter life last? |
| 04:24.43 | jcsitte | errr battery |
| 04:24.50 | matr1x | i was gonna buy it from tigerdirect but those jerks dont let you buy it if youre from canada |
| 04:25.07 | matr1x | they direct you to the canadian site where its not available |
| 04:25.10 | tcg23 | ooh, well did you get a refurb elsewhere or a brand new one? |
| 04:25.15 | matr1x | i got a used one |
| 04:25.21 | Bryan_W | ebay? |
| 04:25.22 | matr1x | no |
| 04:25.48 | _Psycho | tigerdirect.ca was selling reburf 5500 my friend bought one |
| 04:25.53 | matr1x | ehhh? |
| 04:25.56 | tcg23 | I personally don't do ebay, plus tigerdirect warranties the refurbed 5500, you can't beat it. |
| 04:25.57 | matr1x | i couldnt find it |
| 04:26.16 | matr1x | anyways, i paid 170 US plus shipping and got a wireless card with it |
| 04:26.24 | matr1x | so i cant complain |
| 04:26.38 | matr1x | well, will get |
| 04:26.41 | tcg23 | not bad at all |
| 04:27.59 | matr1x | once i get it then ill be happy |
| 04:28.06 | tcg23 | hehe |
| 04:28.40 | matr1x | itl be my best friend and ill love it and pet it and feed it |
| 04:28.44 | tcg23 | hehe |
| 04:29.27 | tcg23 | I'm not organized enough to use PIM, so I'll prolly move my ogg files over and use it as a game system/ogg player/linux box |
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| 04:33.10 | matr1x | yah |
| 04:33.16 | matr1x | ebook reading and mp3 playing were why i bought it |
| 04:33.26 | matr1x | and wireless internet from anywhere |
| 04:33.49 | tcg23 | yah, I'm learning C and PERL, so I can edit and compile on the fly. |
| 04:34.04 | tcg23 | I've got linux on this laptop, but the 5500 is o so smaller! |
| 04:34.57 | matr1x | heh |
| 04:35.06 | matr1x | thats why i never bought a laptop |
| 04:35.12 | matr1x | how often do you have a laptop with you when you need it |
| 04:36.03 | tcg23 | well I got a good deal on this one, it's older and slow, so I got it cheap. |
| 04:36.27 | matr1x | yah |
| 04:36.31 | matr1x | well im going to sleep |
| 04:36.37 | matr1x | heres hoping my zaurus comes tomorrow |
| 04:36.49 | tcg23 | have fun and enjoy |
| 04:37.02 | matr1x | otherwise i have to wade through yet another weekend |
| 04:37.11 | matr1x | damn holidays |
| 04:37.18 | matr1x | jesus christ making my life hell yet again |
| 04:37.39 | tcg23 | why is that? |
| 04:39.00 | matr1x | i just wanted to say something ironic |
| 04:41.00 | tcg23 | ok, lol |
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| 04:52.09 | jcsitte | netsplit? |
| 04:54.31 | jcsitte | hmmmm |
| 04:54.55 | fgddfg | ? |
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| 04:57.20 | jcsitte | I still love the penguin here: http://www.google.com/ |
| 04:57.24 | jcsitte | Its touching |
| 04:57.28 | jcsitte | Its like an OMEN> |
| 04:58.12 | fgddfg | ? |
| 04:58.42 | jcsitte | penguin on the google image |
| 05:00.28 | fgddfg | what is google? |
| 05:04.51 | jcsitte | got nano worken again |
| 05:04.53 | jcsitte | nice |
| 05:05.47 | jcsitte | Time to look at theme making sites |
| 05:11.21 | jcsitte | mp3 streaming software |
| 05:11.27 | jcsitte | whats best for that for the zaurus |
| 05:15.59 | fgddfg | jcsitte: to stream from the zaurus? |
| 05:18.04 | jcsitte | no stream client |
| 05:18.05 | jcsitte | heh |
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| 05:24.26 | fgddfg | doesn't xmms stream? |
| 05:24.36 | jcsitte | If it would work for me |
| 05:24.39 | jcsitte | it installs |
| 05:24.41 | fgddfg | same here. |
| 05:24.44 | jcsitte | just does not play anything |
| 05:24.45 | jcsitte | heh |
| 05:24.47 | fgddfg | hah |
| 05:24.49 | fgddfg | does it load? |
| 05:24.52 | jcsitte | yes |
| 05:25.15 | jcsitte | when I try to select an mp3 it does nothing |
| 05:25.20 | jcsitte | or crashes |
| 05:25.25 | jcsitte | should I try it as root? |
| 05:25.39 | fgddfg | hmm |
| 05:25.45 | fgddfg | isn't everything run as root? |
| 05:25.53 | fgddfg | in oz i'm thinking actually... |
| 05:25.55 | jcsitte | subapplet rocks |
| 05:26.08 | jcsitte | ummm not on zaurus rom |
| 05:26.16 | fgddfg | ahh, i run oz |
| 05:26.26 | jcsitte | run for you? |
| 05:26.41 | fgddfg | nope |
| 05:26.47 | fgddfg | but i'm running 3.3.6-pre1 on a 5600 |
| 05:26.57 | jcsitte | thats rally buggy for me |
| 05:26.59 | jcsitte | dont know why |
| 05:27.07 | fgddfg | you have to turn the console messages off |
| 05:27.09 | jcsitte | I wont run it until it stable |
| 05:27.16 | fgddfg | for it to be remotely usable |
| 05:27.20 | fgddfg | it's pretty much my only option |
| 05:27.28 | jcsitte | why is that? |
| 05:27.31 | fgddfg | 3.3.5 is garbage on the 5600 |
| 05:27.33 | jcsitte | you a OZ dev? |
| 05:27.43 | fgddfg | nope |
| 05:27.48 | fgddfg | i just got my oz on xmas |
| 05:27.55 | fgddfg | i'm thinking about doing some dev if it's not too hard |
| 05:28.15 | fgddfg | my mind is crippled from last night to say the least |
| 05:29.22 | jcsitte | OZ 3.3.6pre ok after console messages are turned off? |
| 05:29.35 | fgddfg | for me it's not bad |
| 05:29.43 | fgddfg | my wireless works so so much better in oz |
| 05:29.55 | jcsitte | what are the advantages? |
| 05:29.58 | fgddfg | it's garbage a floor away using the sharp rom, but w/ oz i can use it in my basement |
| 05:30.03 | jcsitte | I may try it again if I can turn that crap off |
| 05:30.20 | jcsitte | hmmmm |
| 05:30.28 | fgddfg | you gotta put "echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/printk" in one of the first lines of /etc/init.d/opie |
| 05:30.30 | jcsitte | does it crash allot? |
| 05:30.35 | fgddfg | hasn't crashed for me yet |
| 05:30.53 | fgddfg | it sucks, most stuff doesnt' work on the 5600, even using the sharp rom |
| 05:31.12 | jcsitte | what about the default apps |
| 05:31.15 | jcsitte | on the rom |
| 05:31.17 | fgddfg | oh yeah |
| 05:31.18 | fgddfg | they work |
| 05:31.18 | jcsitte | do they all run? |
| 05:31.21 | fgddfg | but i want xmms |
| 05:31.32 | fgddfg | actually, some program called oxygen is nonexistent |
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| 05:31.57 | jcsitte | so tell me more about the wireless |
| 05:32.00 | jcsitte | why is it better? |
| 05:32.12 | fgddfg | it works 2x farther basically |
| 05:32.19 | jcsitte | wow |
| 05:32.31 | fgddfg | it's a pretty unbelievable difference |
| 05:33.26 | fgddfg | i like the transparent menus on one of the themes... |
| 05:33.43 | fgddfg | it just seems cooler really, does everything i did w/ the sharp rom i think |
| 05:35.54 | jcsitte | heh |
| 05:35.59 | jcsitte | what about the pims |
| 05:36.02 | jcsitte | do they sync? |
| 05:37.52 | fgddfg | haven't tried it actually |
| 05:37.55 | fgddfg | hold on |
| 05:38.46 | fgddfg | doesn't appear to |
| 05:39.18 | jcsitte | thats not good |
| 05:39.26 | jcsitte | I need that one... |
| 05:41.56 | fgddfg | i dont |
| 05:42.09 | fgddfg | it's just a toy to play with for me....at least until school starts |
| 05:44.22 | jcsitte | heh |
| 05:44.33 | jcsitte | know why the wireless works better? |
| 05:44.37 | jcsitte | is it hacked? |
| 05:44.41 | fgddfg | no idea |
| 05:44.45 | fgddfg | i thought it might work better |
| 05:44.48 | fgddfg | but not that much better |
| 05:46.54 | jcsitte | I will attempt to do xmms again in a bit |
| 05:46.58 | jcsitte | run as root this time |
| 05:47.03 | jcsitte | you have gaim working? |
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| 05:48.05 | jcsitte | netsplit again? |
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| 05:59.30 | jcsitte | testing as root |
| 05:59.49 | jcsitte | running |
| 05:59.53 | jcsitte | now to test an mp3 |
| 06:00.15 | jcsitte | nope |
| 06:00.23 | jcsitte | thinks its a SD issue? |
| 06:01.45 | jcsitte | I will wait till its stable and try again later |
| 06:01.47 | jcsitte | oh well |
| 06:04.57 | fgddfg | sorry |
| 06:05.00 | fgddfg | afk |
| 06:05.21 | jcsitte | its ok |
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| 06:13.30 | jcsitte | I started a zaurus page on my site... |
| 06:13.46 | jcsitte | I uploaded my wallpaper I use... |
| 06:13.57 | jcsitte | That is all I have time to put on there for now |
| 06:14.04 | jcsitte | http://staticnull.org/zaurus/ |
| 06:20.00 | offroadgeek | jcsitte, that's a nice background... why don't you upload it to zaurusthemes.com? |
| 06:20.48 | jcsitte | why didnt I think of that |
| 06:20.49 | jcsitte | heh |
| 06:21.05 | jcsitte | I am thinking of porting almost all the prop themes |
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| 06:21.17 | jcsitte | I will of course rename them accordingly |
| 06:21.28 | jcsitte | It would be a pretty big project though |
| 06:21.35 | jcsitte | so in time I will do that |
| 06:21.43 | jcsitte | for now I can upload it there |
| 06:21.44 | jcsitte | :)) |
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| 06:23.37 | jcsitte | Another project in mind is bluecurve for the zaurus |
| 06:23.46 | jcsitte | I think it would be fun just to make it |
| 06:23.50 | jcsitte | why not :)) |
| 06:24.33 | jcsitte | http://www.zaurusthemes.com/?type=Backgrounds/Abstract |
| 06:24.34 | jcsitte | added |
| 06:24.36 | jcsitte | :) |
| 06:25.13 | jcsitte | I have noticed that images have to be pretty bright to show up nicely |
| 06:27.26 | chouimat | nite |
| 06:27.30 | jcsitte | nite |
| 06:37.01 | fgddfg | boo |
| 06:40.52 | jcsitte | boo |
| 06:40.52 | jcsitte | heh |
| 06:42.09 | jcsitte | gtk wrapper would be sweat for zaurus |
| 06:42.20 | jcsitte | so many apps I want to use that are gtk |
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| 06:45.20 | jcsitte | http://inkscape.sourceforge.net/screenshots/ |
| 06:45.21 | jcsitte | damn |
| 06:45.26 | jcsitte | that has come a long way |
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| 06:55.13 | freyr | umm... how do i reboot my zaurus without wiping /mnt/ram? |
| 06:55.18 | freyr | it seems to have hung |
| 06:55.47 | smashie | freyr your zaurus? |
| 06:56.02 | freyr | ya |
| 06:56.13 | smashie | what OS are u runnin? |
| 06:56.13 | jcsitte | brb |
| 06:56.15 | jcsitte | exit |
| 06:56.18 | freyr | openzaurus |
| 06:56.25 | smashie | well which |
| 06:56.31 | freyr | 3.5 |
| 06:56.38 | smashie | 3.3.5? |
| 06:56.51 | freyr | ya |
| 06:56.51 | smashie | hmm yea here it almost always hangs after reboot |
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| 06:56.54 | smashie | like it simply freezes |
| 06:57.02 | jcsitte | updated xchat |
| 06:57.02 | freyr | smashie: no i was doing something else |
| 06:57.03 | jcsitte | heh |
| 06:57.03 | smashie | and I cant just turn it off, so I need a hardreset |
| 06:57.14 | freyr | smashie: i need to restart |
| 06:57.20 | smashie | well I switched to tkr as OZ doesnt work for me properly |
| 06:57.24 | freyr | smashie: is there ctrl + alt + del or something? |
| 06:57.37 | smashie | do both light blink |
| 06:57.40 | smashie | or are ON? |
| 06:57.58 | smashie | green and orange? ( supposing you have a sl5x00 unit ) |
| 06:58.03 | freyr | no they are off |
| 06:58.05 | freyr | 5500 |
| 06:58.14 | smashie | hmm dunno everytime my OZ got frozen they were on |
| 07:00.12 | smashie | I guess |
| 07:00.13 | smashie | only way is |
| 07:00.15 | smashie | hardreset |
| 07:00.18 | blitzrage | double reboot problem? |
| 07:00.22 | smashie | which here fucked up whole OZ |
| 07:00.40 | blitzrage | can't reboot twice without suspending in between |
| 07:00.50 | blitzrage | that's why I can't wait for the new kernel... it's fixed in that... |
| 07:01.26 | blitzrage | perhaps when my replaced stolen zaurus gets here I'll compile the alpha/beta (whatever it is) version of the newer kernel |
| 07:02.17 | jcsitte | OZ seems ify to me |
| 07:02.26 | jcsitte | when will it be stable anyways |
| 07:02.34 | blitzrage | Captain-Obvious: I was using 3.3.4 and was still getting it |
| 07:02.46 | jcsitte | I would use it if I didn't use my zaurus all the time for work and such |
| 07:03.36 | freyr | How do i make it reboot though? |
| 07:03.44 | freyr | is the only way to press the reset? |
| 07:03.51 | freyr | will that wipe my /mnt/ram? |
| 07:03.51 | Captain-Obvious | If I used my zaurus for work all the time, I wouldnt tuch the sharp rom. sharp rom is crap for most things |
| 07:04.02 | smashie | freyr |
| 07:04.04 | smashie | not just that |
| 07:04.08 | smashie | as I said here I had to reflash |
| 07:04.13 | smashie | because the whole OZ was broken |
| 07:04.29 | jcsitte | wow |
| 07:04.36 | smashie | captain well tkr bases on sharprom |
| 07:04.42 | jcsitte | bunch or mp3's on gnutella in ipk form? |
| 07:04.47 | jcsitte | really odd |
| 07:04.52 | smashie | and its wifi compatibility is _a lot_ better than OZ's |
| 07:05.11 | jcsitte | why would people make ipk mp3's? |
| 07:05.40 | Captain-Obvious | if you use OZ you wont lose the ram disk |
| 07:06.02 | freyr | Captain-Obvious: I can reboot by pressing reset and it wont delete my apps from the ram? |
| 07:06.13 | Captain-Obvious | IF your using OZ |
| 07:06.23 | Captain-Obvious | on the sharp rom, you lose it all |
| 07:06.28 | blitzrage | yep |
| 07:06.58 | Captain-Obvious | on the sharp rom, if you forget to supend between reboots you lose the ram disk |
| 07:07.00 | jcsitte | really... Never lost my apps... |
| 07:07.01 | blitzrage | I actually found 3.3.4 when I had my Z the best ROM yet.. and I've run all the ones released since last xmas |
| 07:07.03 | freyr | i dont want to install mplayer again |
| 07:07.05 | freyr | that took forever |
| 07:07.46 | Captain-Obvious | blitzrage: you saying that you lost the ram disk when you hit the reset button? |
| 07:07.54 | Captain-Obvious | did you flash the kernel too? |
| 07:07.54 | jcsitte | thats odd |
| 07:08.00 | jcsitte | doesnt happen to me |
| 07:08.03 | blitzrage | Captain-Obvious: nope :) |
| 07:08.25 | Captain-Obvious | of the OZ roms, 3.3.4 is the best |
| 07:08.39 | Captain-Obvious | 3.3.5 is a unstable testing release |
| 07:08.41 | blitzrage | Captain-Obvious: I get the Z hanging and needing a hardreset (switch under battery, but don't lose apps) if I reboot twice without suspending. |
| 07:08.57 | jcsitte | 5600 does not loose apps on ram disk |
| 07:09.04 | jcsitte | s;-5600 |
| 07:09.06 | jcsitte | sl-5600 |
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| 07:09.10 | jcsitte | soory |
| 07:09.13 | freyr | ok sweet ine works fine now |
| 07:09.15 | freyr | yayayaya |
| 07:09.19 | Captain-Obvious | the 5600 has a flash disk |
| 07:09.22 | freyr | hahah u gyuys suck :) |
| 07:09.24 | jcsitte | :) |
| 07:09.26 | Captain-Obvious | not a ram disk |
| 07:09.33 | jcsitte | ti rocks |
| 07:09.42 | blitzrage | I've heard many incompatibilities about the 5600 |
| 07:09.46 | jcsitte | I have to actually format to get it to remove apps |
| 07:09.55 | jcsitte | depends on what you mean |
| 07:09.55 | blitzrage | I couldn't justify spending the extra money for it.. just got the 5500 again |
| 07:10.06 | jcsitte | what is incompatable |
| 07:10.11 | jcsitte | gaim and xmms is all I found so far |
| 07:10.19 | blitzrage | don't know, I don't run a 5600 :) |
| 07:10.22 | blitzrage | just heard things |
| 07:10.22 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:10.34 | jcsitte | if you run OZ then its ugly |
| 07:10.35 | jcsitte | heh |
| 07:10.41 | jcsitte | nite blitz |
| 07:10.48 | blitzrage | g'night all |
| 07:10.51 | blitzrage | lates jcsitte |
| 07:10.58 | Captain-Obvious | may be ugly, but it works |
| 07:11.09 | blitzrage | can't wait for my 5500 replacement on the 8th of Jan. |
| 07:14.33 | smashie | blitzrage |
| 07:14.37 | smashie | why is it broken? |
| 07:14.44 | blitzrage | not broken.. stolen |
| 07:15.27 | jcsitte | huh? |
| 07:15.41 | smashie | blitzrage |
| 07:15.41 | blitzrage | had a 32mb CF card in it (thank god not my WCF12 or camera) which was in a really nice leather tri-fold case (and even a few subway stamps) |
| 07:15.43 | blitzrage | yah? |
| 07:15.45 | smashie | err they send you a replacement |
| 07:15.45 | smashie | ? |
| 07:15.48 | smashie | how come? |
| 07:15.54 | blitzrage | no, I had to buy a new one off ebay |
| 07:16.06 | smashie | and whats about that replacement? |
| 07:17.48 | blitzrage | I replaced my stolen Z with one I purchased off of ebay, and it's coming on the 8th of January........ |
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| 07:18.15 | blitzrage | that's about as clear as I can be about the situation :) |
| 07:18.18 | Cameron | anyone know how Z tray applets work? |
| 07:18.27 | Captain-Obvious | they work well |
| 07:18.28 | Cameron | I installed one that's supposed to disable suspend |
| 07:18.36 | blitzrage | ok.. off to bed |
| 07:18.39 | blitzrage | g'night again all |
| 07:18.43 | Cameron | do I have to reboot to have it activate? |
| 07:19.06 | ljp | might just restart opie/qtopia |
| 07:21.27 | Cameron | qtopia |
| 07:24.41 | br33zy | Does anybody know if there are any X11 roms for the 5000d? |
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| 07:27.22 | jcsitte | rargh! |
| 07:27.24 | jcsitte | :0 |
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| 07:50.57 | br33zy | Anybody know hwo to fix the "ipkg: *** Couldnt kill old gunzip process *** aborting |
| 07:50.58 | br33zy | " ipkg errors? |
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| 14:09.49 | absentia | re |
| 14:26.35 | tanq | damn the formatter doesnt seem to be working... |
| 14:27.14 | tanq | winder why that is... |
| 14:27.20 | tanq | s/winder/wonder |
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| 15:04.43 | absentia | not sure. |
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| 15:42.39 | reighn | hi |
| 15:43.07 | reighn | has anyone been able to get the linksys wifi wcf12 compactflash card to work on a zaurus 860? |
| 15:43.23 | absentia | no |
| 15:43.47 | reighn | that sucks |
| 15:43.53 | reighn | what cards do work? |
| 15:45.40 | absentia | I only have a 760 .. and I've never been able to get my wcf12 to work |
| 15:45.40 | absentia | ever |
| 15:45.48 | absentia | but others say that it will work, but it's not clear just as to how. |
| 15:45.55 | absentia | some say that the latest oz supports it out of the box |
| 15:46.11 | reighn | why dont you try the latest oz? |
| 15:46.12 | absentia | but on my 5600, the wcf12 w/ latest oz (3.3.6-pre1) just gives vertical bars and locks the device until it's removed) |
| 15:46.22 | absentia | I don't want oz on my 760... |
| 15:46.27 | absentia | only cacko 180 or cacko X11 |
| 15:47.26 | reighn | absentia dont you find x11 increadibly slow? |
| 15:48.26 | reighn | like when I click something it can take 10 seconds+ before it comes up |
| 15:49.46 | absentia | no |
| 15:49.50 | absentia | yes |
| 15:49.51 | absentia | that happens |
| 15:50.36 | absentia | but it's worth it |
| 15:50.37 | reighn | absentia - what's wrong with tkc? |
| 15:50.38 | absentia | to see gimp on the pda |
| 15:50.44 | absentia | reign: only have so much time |
| 15:50.54 | absentia | I want to try tkc on 700, 5600... oz on 5600 700 |
| 15:51.02 | absentia | and the latest x11 on 5600 (no) and 700. |
| 15:51.04 | absentia | to compare. |
| 15:51.10 | absentia | so far, cacko 170 has been the best rom for me |
| 15:51.19 | reighn | ok cool |
| 15:51.27 | tanq | x11 doesnt work on the 5600 |
| 15:51.30 | reighn | what wifi cards do work out of the box on the zaurus 860? |
| 15:51.32 | absentia | but I have that on the 760, and x11 rom (from dec 23rd?) on c700 |
| 15:51.37 | tanq | it thought they only had it for the c series |
| 15:51.37 | absentia | tanq: see the (no) |
| 15:51.44 | tanq | oh.. |
| 15:51.51 | tanq | yeah i wanted to use it too.. |
| 15:51.52 | tanq | heh.. |
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| 15:53.54 | reighn | absentia - is the symbol cf wifi card work $180USD? |
| 15:54.09 | absentia | I hear people say symbol is good |
| 15:54.12 | absentia | but I thought they were $59 |
| 15:54.15 | absentia | but I really don't nkow. |
| 15:54.48 | absentia | I hear symbol (I think?) may have some issues with kismet... but again, I only have dlink 660w (which some people say have died on them... actually, I have 2, I lost one) .. and a wcf12 -- which I have never managed to get working. |
| 15:55.42 | reighn | absentia - so I guess the dlink, though it's crappy, is the only way to go |
| 15:57.48 | absentia | why is it crappy? |
| 15:59.19 | reighn | it |
| 15:59.33 | reighn | s not well built and has excessive heating issues |
| 15:59.55 | absentia | ya |
| 15:59.57 | absentia | in the 5600 it was hot |
| 16:00.05 | absentia | but in the 700 ... I don't see any heat from it really. |
| 16:00.41 | reighn | cool |
| 16:01.27 | absentia | which do you have? I assume c.... since you mentioned the x11 being slow. |
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| 16:01.53 | reighn | 860 |
| 16:01.58 | absentia | nice |
| 16:02.05 | absentia | I'm using the x11 on a 700 |
| 16:02.13 | absentia | it's like 2x slower than the 760/860? |
| 16:02.16 | absentia | and I still ike the x11 rom |
| 16:02.20 | absentia | just needs more ram :-) |
| 16:02.50 | reighn | mine messed up when puttin the tkc rom in so i have to go out and get a cf reader/writer |
| 16:02.55 | reighn | ttyl |
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| 16:13.43 | George- | kergoth: hey |
| 16:13.52 | kergoth | hey |
| 16:14.59 | absentia | hey |
| 16:15.26 | George- | absentia: face it, ia32 emulation on a Zaurus is inefficient |
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| 16:54.02 | p-chan | any food feeds for mr 5500? sharp rom 3.1 |
| 16:54.08 | p-chan | *good |
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| 16:55.16 | chouimat | morning |
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| 17:19.40 | absentia | anyone here have dosbox or qemu on their Z ? |
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| 17:22.18 | JasonM | Not me. |
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| 18:03.26 | reighn | hi there, I am putting tkc on my 860, after I put the x11 rom on. Do I have to do clear memory or anything for it to work? |
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| 18:25.24 | Bryan_W | dosbox eh? |
| 18:26.07 | absentia | yes |
| 18:26.12 | absentia | bah, antoher sashz rom |
| 18:26.13 | absentia | heheh |
| 18:26.16 | absentia | I'm 3 behind already. |
| 18:26.21 | Bryan_W | lol |
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| 18:54.18 | sjborch_ | morning, ibot |
| 18:54.29 | sjborch_ | ibot: hey |
| 18:54.31 | | hmm... hey is Hello |
| 18:54.40 | sjborch_ | ibot: hello |
| 18:54.42 | | Howdy Bub |
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| 19:16.35 | offroadgeek | hello taim |
| 19:25.54 | kergoth | absentia: been done a few times, ask around, no point wasting effort |
| 19:26.02 | absentia | really? |
| 19:26.06 | absentia | hmmm. |
| 19:26.14 | absentia | (although it's really no effort :-)) |
| 19:26.18 | kergoth | yeah. dont ask me who though |
| 19:26.23 | kergoth | heh, true enough |
| 19:26.27 | absentia | I'll have it coded in 10 minuts |
| 19:26.49 | absentia | most of the time I spend 3x the amount of effort trying to get someone else's hard coded single purpose program to do anything other thatn what it was programmed to do. |
| 19:27.05 | kergoth | heh, why dont you just use wget? |
| 19:27.13 | absentia | I am making a simple app# ipk grabber (although I'm debating also getting the source...) |
| 19:27.19 | kergoth | recurse, only allow htm, html, and ipk |
| 19:27.20 | absentia | wget -r is wasteful |
| 19:27.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:27.21 | absentia | I just want the code. |
| 19:27.49 | absentia | and wget makes nasty paths.... I don'e like that, etc. |
| 19:27.53 | absentia | anyway, it's not a problem. |
| 19:29.18 | absentia | ah |
| 19:29.19 | absentia | blah |
| 19:29.28 | absentia | I f'n hate source forge download fake urls |
| 19:29.54 | kergoth | heh, dont use them then. get the filename and go grab it off a mirror manually |
| 19:29.58 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:30.07 | absentia | right |
| 19:30.15 | absentia | what I mean is, I'm gonna have to do a special check just for source forge |
| 19:30.20 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:32.35 | reighn | does the microinnovations keyboard work on openzauurs? |
| 19:36.18 | cyn_ | you don't need to make the paths when you use wget absentia |
| 19:36.42 | absentia | cyn: no, I don't like the paths it makes |
| 19:36.44 | cyn_ | that annoying www.somedot.com/path/foo/bar/etc. |
| 19:36.48 | absentia | ya |
| 19:36.49 | absentia | I hate that |
| 19:36.54 | cyn_ | right, it doesn't have to |
| 19:37.01 | absentia | ya? what's the option? |
| 19:37.03 | cyn_ | but I'm 10 mins late so yer prolly done |
| 19:37.20 | absentia | I also with is had a wget -only-newer-than 12/30/03 etc. |
| 19:37.31 | absentia | no, I'm writing code now. |
| 19:37.39 | absentia | switches from shell to perl, though |
| 19:37.42 | absentia | since I want to do regexps |
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| 19:38.04 | cyn_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.05 | cyn_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.16 | absentia | -nd |
| 19:38.16 | absentia | thanks |
| 19:38.21 | cyn_ | np |
| 19:38.30 | absentia | man |
| 19:38.34 | absentia | I have too many utility programs I need to write |
| 19:38.39 | cyn_ | you and me both |
| 19:46.37 | absentia | ($s) = ( $x =~ /Source\s*<[^h]+href="([^"]+)"/m ); |
| 19:46.37 | absentia | ($b) = ( $x =~ /Download\s*<[^h]+href="([^"]+)"/m ); |
| 19:46.37 | absentia | ($i) = ( $x =~ /href="([^"]+\.ipk)"/m ); |
| 19:46.39 | absentia | etc |
| 19:46.53 | absentia | $b = $i ... for single ipk, just playing with regexps. |
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| 19:47.25 | absentia | I can change the pattern ipk to tgz, tar.gz and sort by filetype, etc. |
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| 20:00.20 | absentia | damn |
| 20:00.20 | absentia | so nice |
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| 20:59.54 | usual | any t-mobile users? |
| 21:01.55 | Bryan_W | not I |
| 21:02.16 | kergoth | for the cell anyway, doesnt have anything to do with the z |
| 21:02.29 | usual | kergoth, happy with service? |
| 21:03.03 | kergoth | quite, havent had any problems with it |
| 21:03.48 | usual | no problems with signal? |
| 21:04.06 | kergoth | nope. not where i'm at anyway, i havent been many places since getting the phone |
| 21:04.41 | usual | ahh , where do ya live |
| 21:04.47 | kergoth | dallas |
| 21:05.02 | usual | cool, I am thinking of switching |
| 21:05.20 | kergoth | who are you with now? |
| 21:05.26 | usual | sprint |
| 21:05.38 | kergoth | thats who I had previously. i prefer this |
| 21:05.45 | usual | sprint is evil |
| 21:08.00 | George- | hi kergoth |
| 21:08.05 | kergoth | hey George- |
| 21:08.10 | kergoth | i finally got internet back at my house |
| 21:08.14 | George- | oh |
| 21:08.15 | kergoth | after nearly a month of not having it |
| 21:08.16 | George- | what isp? |
| 21:08.19 | kergoth | was going nuts |
| 21:08.32 | George- | what, you mean you missed my annoyingness? |
| 21:08.35 | George- | are you mad? |
| 21:08.43 | kergoth | i missed having something to do other than tv |
| 21:08.51 | George- | *phew* |
| 21:09.14 | kergoth | plus, couldnt really work on OE/OZ stuff outside of work, which was annoying |
| 21:23.16 | rizzy | is there any way to compile natively on the 860 for qtopia? |
| 21:24.06 | kergoth | heh. you have no idea how slow that would be |
| 21:24.11 | kergoth | hm |
| 21:24.12 | kergoth | i'm living so far beyond my income that we may almost be said to be |
| 21:24.12 | kergoth | living apart. |
| 21:24.12 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:49.35 | csmall | My zaurus is at my house I can't wait to get home |
| 21:49.36 | csmall | :D |
| 21:49.42 | absentia | congrats! |
| 21:49.47 | csmall | fedex just dropped it on the porch bastards |
| 21:49.51 | csmall | no doorbell no mothing |
| 21:50.02 | csmall | nothing |
| 21:50.50 | treke|home | yeah fedex sucks |
| 21:51.19 | csmall | tracking still doesn't show it as delivered |
| 21:51.25 | csmall | I should report it as missing |
| 21:51.35 | csmall | no one signed for it |
| 21:52.27 | treke|home | hehe |
| 21:52.39 | treke|home | it'll get marked as delivered when the driver gets back |
| 21:53.23 | Bryan_W | heh |
| 21:53.37 | csmall | yea but no one signed |
| 21:53.43 | csmall | he just dumped it on the porch |
| 21:53.48 | csmall | are they sposed to dot hat? |
| 21:54.39 | Bryan_W | don't know |
| 21:56.14 | csmall | time to go home and get it :) |
| 22:07.02 | treke|home | ibot, seen rev |
| 22:07.09 | | rev <~Malkin@24-197-179-70.dul.mn.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 9d 19h 37m 4s ago, saying: '*hic*'. |
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| 23:20.16 | jcsitte | White Zombie rocks |
| 23:20.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:20.28 | absentia | I can't find rock hard enough for me. |
| 23:20.36 | jcsitte | heh |
| 23:20.39 | absentia | I think I want a recording of a jet engine that I can modulate. |
| 23:20.50 | treke|home | hard enough? |
| 23:20.58 | kergoth | heh, i've taken to a lot of industrial lately |
| 23:21.18 | absentia | hmmm |
| 23:21.26 | absentia | nope, that's just a nice soft ringing... |
| 23:21.42 | absentia | well, and there's a kind of a pulse... but that might be pain, and not sound. |
| 23:21.49 | jcsitte | Why do people post Windows games on ZSI? |
| 23:21.58 | kergoth | because people are fucking stupid |
| 23:22.03 | jcsitte | I know they get deleted but its anoyinh |
| 23:22.06 | absentia | which game? |
| 23:22.07 | jcsitte | anoying |
| 23:22.13 | jcsitte | http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1544 |
| 23:22.24 | treke|home | I still like when someone posted an Indian used car dealership |
| 23:22.24 | jcsitte | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.29 | jcsitte | lol |
| 23:22.49 | jcsitte | just trying to find some new software for my Z |
| 23:22.58 | jcsitte | anyone know of some useful or fun stuff? |
| 23:23.16 | jcsitte | I have top already |
| 23:23.18 | jcsitte | heh |
| 23:23.25 | jcsitte | if someone was going to say that again |
| 23:24.20 | absentia | how can you see that app |
| 23:24.23 | absentia | it's no on the main page |
| 23:24.26 | absentia | it's not in the last added |
| 23:24.27 | absentia | ? |
| 23:24.35 | absentia | lgeneral |
| 23:24.56 | absentia | ? |
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| 23:26.42 | jcsitte | http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/stats.php |
| 23:26.58 | jcsitte | that shows pending apps |
| 23:27.52 | absentia | looks! |
| 23:27.57 | absentia | ics changing from commercial to freeware! |
| 23:28.17 | treke|home | probably not |
| 23:28.31 | treke|home | people like going through and changing junk randomly |
| 23:28.41 | jcsitte | lol |
| 23:29.30 | absentia | oh |
| 23:29.37 | absentia | damn |
| 23:30.11 | jcsitte | looks like its still 5 bucks |
| 23:33.51 | absentia | http://www.00fun.com/wimg/goodpaintjob.jpg |
| 23:36.50 | jcsitte | does not work |
| 23:36.57 | absentia | ? |
| 23:38.09 | jcsitte | link not found |
| 23:38.14 | absentia | really? |
| 23:38.15 | absentia | strange. |
| 23:38.26 | jcsitte | maybe its cached for you |
| 23:38.27 | jcsitte | :/ |
| 23:38.45 | absentia | doubtful |
| 23:38.52 | jcsitte | what is it? |
| 23:39.13 | jcsitte | painted Z? |
| 23:39.44 | absentia | no |
| 23:39.44 | absentia | car |
| 23:39.51 | absentia | I don't think it's cached here |
| 23:39.55 | jcsitte | odd |
| 23:39.55 | absentia | try wget or something... |
| 23:40.00 | absentia | try going to altavista. |
| 23:40.21 | jcsitte | lol |
| 23:40.24 | jcsitte | it wgets |
| 23:40.38 | jcsitte | scary paint job |
| 23:40.38 | absentia | put it in babelfish, translate from koren to english. |
| 23:40.40 | absentia | yup |
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| 23:41.44 | George- | absentia: haha, that paint job rocks |
| 23:41.48 | absentia | noidea. |
| 23:41.54 | absentia | just cleaning out my files and found that url |
| 23:42.07 | George- | ... |
| 23:42.09 | George- | oh well |
