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| 00:36.11 | pauld | hi |
| 00:36.46 | earHurts | I just installed an sd card (san disk, 512MB). The sd card's not showing in the applet bar, nor in "System Information". However, I can use it by navigating to /mnt/card |
| 00:37.08 | pauld | I am going to charge my zaurus for the first time. I've read that people charged their's for 16 hours, and 12 hours. Is that necessary or is 3 hours best? |
| 00:37.45 | earHurts | I've tried re-booting, but the sd card still doesn't show up. Any ideas? |
| 00:38.21 | earHurts | The zaurus will charge while in use |
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| 01:26.20 | kendrick | re |
| 01:26.39 | treke | traitor |
| 01:26.43 | kendrick | hrm!? |
| 01:26.44 | kendrick | :) |
| 01:26.55 | treke | we know about your new pda |
| 01:27.06 | kendrick | ! |
| 01:27.15 | kendrick | what, you mean this crappy cellphone? :) |
| 01:27.31 | treke | don't even try to pretend you don't know what I'm talking about |
| 01:27.44 | kendrick | heh' |
| 01:27.53 | kendrick | i wish i had a new pda. i want an sl-5600 |
| 01:28.00 | kendrick | my sl-5000d is getting so dated and hard to keep up :( |
| 01:28.15 | treke | get an 860 |
| 01:28.17 | kendrick | hehe |
| 01:28.19 | kendrick | buy me one :) |
| 01:28.23 | kendrick | it was xmas :) |
| 01:28.27 | absentia | I recommend the 860 |
| 01:28.30 | treke | start selling virtual kendrick |
| 01:28.54 | kendrick | hehehe |
| 01:29.01 | omin0us | haha, its THE kendrick form virtual kendrick |
| 01:29.02 | omin0us | lol |
| 01:29.11 | kendrick | yep! |
| 01:29.19 | omin0us | lol |
| 01:29.21 | absentia | what's virtual kendrick ? |
| 01:29.32 | kendrick | http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/virtual-kend/ |
| 01:29.33 | omin0us | ab: go to ZSI |
| 01:29.39 | omin0us | or...go there |
| 01:29.53 | absentia | I broke my freebsd system, no graphical.... broser. |
| 01:29.59 | absentia | just tell me? what does it do ? |
| 01:30.08 | kendrick | it show me on your zaurus |
| 01:30.10 | kendrick | and i think about stuff i like |
| 01:31.23 | omin0us | its the best thing since those tamagatchi things |
| 01:31.37 | omin0us | you dont' even have to feed him |
| 01:31.45 | omin0us | lol |
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| 01:32.01 | kendrick | whoops - router died here at the cafe |
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| 01:32.43 | kendrick | damnit |
| 01:32.49 | kendrick | it came back, THEN i guess they turned it off and on :) |
| 01:33.22 | omin0us | anyone here use edonkey or mldonkey? |
| 01:34.17 | kendrick | nope |
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| 01:56.26 | kendrick | with a laptop? :P) |
| 01:56.28 | kendrick | oops |
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| 02:49.46 | warmi_ | even George is quiet ... that's just plain weird .. |
| 03:01.25 | darmou | in terms of video for the Z nothing beats ogm full screen stereo |
| 03:01.34 | darmou | http://www.zeb.uklinux.net/encoding.html |
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| 03:20.57 | edu | is there any compilation instructions for gpe? |
| 03:28.16 | edu | Is there any instructions on compiling gpe? http://gpe.handhelds.org ? |
| 03:28.33 | absentia | not that I know of... I heard it was a real b!tch to get going for the zaurus. |
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| 03:43.40 | | weez|working: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
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| 04:54.54 | chouimat|Zzzzzz | nite |
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| 06:10.39 | absentia | WPT? |
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| 08:48.19 | catskul | anyone here play doom on their zaurus ? |
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| 10:42.18 | unomi | hiyas, where can i find the java command ? |
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| 11:45.15 | pchan | hihi |
| 11:47.59 | Twiun | hi |
| 11:48.18 | Foxdie | lo |
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| 11:58.36 | p-chan | haha |
| 11:58.53 | p-chan | damn..any good irc client to recommend? |
| 12:02.14 | Foxdie | for which ROM? |
| 12:02.26 | Foxdie | and which zaurus? |
| 12:02.47 | Foxdie | I think the best IRC client for the zaurus is XChat on the X11 ROM for the C-series |
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| 12:21.47 | p-chan | sharp |
| 12:21.51 | p-chan | on 5500 |
| 12:23.38 | Foxdie | ZIC's probably the best then |
| 12:25.30 | p-chan | what about mp3 player |
| 12:25.51 | p-chan | xmms crashes wen loading my songs (lots) |
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| 15:28.03 | chouimat | morning |
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| 16:18.45 | jcsitte | Finallay got kismet to work |
| 16:18.49 | jcsitte | user error |
| 16:20.13 | absentia | nice |
| 16:20.29 | jcsitte | works great |
| 16:20.52 | jcsitte | if you install kismet and qt-kismet |
| 16:21.08 | jcsitte | tap and hold the icon |
| 16:21.15 | jcsitte | run with root priv |
| 16:21.30 | jcsitte | that was the only mistake I made |
| 16:21.57 | absentia | http://www.daemonology.net/depenguinator/ |
| 16:22.19 | jcsitte | whats that |
| 16:22.52 | jcsitte | looking |
| 16:23.54 | jcsitte | interesting |
| 16:24.04 | jcsitte | heh |
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| 16:53.13 | guillomovitch | hi |
| 16:53.29 | guillomovitch | anyone knows if the usb problem for openzaurus 3.3.5 has been fixed ? |
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| 19:09.37 | p-chan | hihi |
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| 19:41.50 | George- | bleh |
| 19:41.52 | George- | BLEH |
| 19:42.10 | George- | Foxdie: I installed Linux 2.6.0 + KDE 3.1.4 on a 430MHz Celeron with 64MB RAM :) |
| 19:42.21 | George- | Foxdie: quite nippy... definitely faster than Winbloze |
| 19:42.24 | Foxdie | Does that make you feel like a man? |
| 19:42.26 | George- | no |
| 19:42.35 | George- | I just can't believe the little bugger can run it |
| 19:42.35 | George- | :) |
| 19:42.43 | George- | had to Gentoo'ize it all |
| 19:44.20 | Foxdie | You confuse me for someone who gives a fuck :P |
| 19:44.35 | Foxdie | just kidding, you wanna do some cross compiling for me? :) |
| 19:48.09 | George- | fuck off |
| 19:48.09 | George- | :P |
| 19:49.06 | catskul | Hey, I have a compa library question |
| 19:49.19 | catskul | if im using the compat lib with some program... |
| 19:49.51 | catskul | do all of the libs that the prog calls have to be the old gcc as well ? |
| 19:50.25 | catskul | because I just installed a new libsdl and now a prog that I had applied the compat lib to is broken : ( |
| 19:50.26 | treke | if they are c++ libaries |
| 19:52.03 | catskul | so then its not possible to use the new sdl lib with the old prog ? |
| 19:52.47 | treke | pretty much. |
| 19:53.02 | treke | it's a somewhat complicated situation since there are a number of things involved |
| 19:53.33 | catskul | yeah... i guess the reall solution is just to find a version of prboom compiled with the new glibc |
| 19:53.39 | catskul | s/reall/real |
| 19:53.57 | treke | the problem would go away if sharp would get with the times :) |
| 19:54.15 | catskul | Have you ever played with prboom (doom) on the zaurus ? |
| 19:54.20 | treke | no |
| 19:54.30 | catskul | its really cool |
| 19:54.46 | catskul | only on the 760 its sideways : P |
| 19:55.08 | catskul | I think its because most of the sdl packages were made for the 5x00 series |
| 19:55.17 | catskul | .. you dont like shoot em ups ? |
| 19:55.31 | treke | I dont like doom |
| 19:55.42 | treke | there is a difference |
| 19:56.07 | catskul | it seems to be the oly on which runs well on the zaurus |
| 19:56.18 | catskul | only |
| 19:56.31 | catskul | what games do you use on your Zaurus ? |
| 19:56.35 | Foxdie | doom is too basic for me |
| 19:56.43 | treke | I dont have any right now |
| 19:56.53 | Foxdie | I'd love to see half-life or UT or even quake 1 compiled for the zaurus |
| 19:56.57 | Foxdie | but no one seems able to do it |
| 19:57.07 | treke | half life and ut are closed source apps |
| 19:57.11 | catskul | quake 1 has been, but it is apparently slow and broken |
| 19:57.21 | treke | quake 1 has been compiled, but it doesnt run very well |
| 19:57.38 | catskul | maybe it would be faster compiled with gcc3 |
| 19:58.48 | treke | someone could always try backporting some of the changes that were made for the pocketpc port |
| 19:59.11 | catskul | is setting up the cross compiler and making ipks difficult to set up ? Im looking at some instructions now, but you never know some of the things that can be problematic. |
| 20:02.00 | Foxdie | they only way to get people to do a good job these days is to pay them, and unfortunately I'm broke :/ |
| 20:02.40 | catskul | and as most of the instructions are specific to gcc2.95... im afraid im going to install some wrong package and make a mess |
| 20:03.28 | catskul | Foxdie: If enough people are interested normally a good job is done, unforunately the zaurus crowd interested in games seems to be fairly small |
| 20:03.55 | absentia | what games |
| 20:03.57 | absentia | I am interested in games |
| 20:03.59 | absentia | 100% |
| 20:04.20 | Foxdie | I'm a gamer at heart |
| 20:04.36 | Foxdie | I grew up playing quake 1 / duke3d over my high schools IPX network |
| 20:04.55 | Foxdie | then I was given HL and spent the last 4 years playing that |
| 20:05.00 | Foxdie | now I play battlefield 1942 |
| 20:05.07 | absentia | is that game any good ? |
| 20:05.13 | Foxdie | and I'm within the top 6000 players \o/ |
| 20:05.22 | Foxdie | bf1942? it's simplistic but great fun |
| 20:05.32 | Foxdie | just frag and cap baby. |
| 20:05.41 | Foxdie | the tanks and planes are fun |
| 20:05.46 | Foxdie | but the most fun has to be the jeeps |
| 20:05.55 | Foxdie | you can do really cool stunts with them ^_^ |
| 20:05.58 | absentia | I liked sudden strike, aprm |
| 20:06.03 | absentia | I want to make an interface to bsd empire |
| 20:06.04 | absentia | for the zaurus |
| 20:06.11 | absentia | but now with X |
| 20:06.14 | absentia | I guess we could do xemp |
| 20:06.21 | absentia | it makes crimson fields looklike ttt |
| 20:06.26 | absentia | compared to chess/go |
| 20:06.34 | Foxdie | I never really liked the strategy games |
| 20:06.46 | absentia | bah! |
| 20:06.46 | catskul | absentia: have you played with prboom on the zaurus ? |
| 20:06.49 | absentia | all games are strategy. |
| 20:06.51 | Foxdie | I guess I'd play a C&C clone if it was able to play online |
| 20:07.06 | Foxdie | prboom is good but for nothing more to show that games can be ported. |
| 20:07.08 | absentia | that an ultima |
| 20:07.13 | Foxdie | I mean half the sounds are missing |
| 20:07.13 | absentia | I still want to get xu4 and exult going on the x |
| 20:07.16 | Foxdie | and all you hear is a beep |
| 20:07.18 | absentia | I love nethack, but not the x11 version |
| 20:07.34 | absentia | I like the qt version... unless someone can tell me how to increas the zoom/font on the pixmaps in the middle on the x11 version |
| 20:07.51 | absentia | I'd like to have that version, with the sliders for the text at top and bottom, but have a much lrger middle section, when I want that... etc. |
| 20:08.11 | catskul | Foxdie: except that it doesn really work right, it shows up sideways on the c760 |
| 20:09.01 | catskul | Foxdie: the sounds work great for me... Im assuming you were refering to prboom ? |
| 20:09.02 | Foxdie | uhh no ti doesnt |
| 20:09.09 | Foxdie | not for me anyway |
| 20:09.23 | absentia | mine showed up landscape |
| 20:10.02 | absentia | yup |
| 20:10.09 | absentia | I much prefer the x11 potential |
| 20:10.20 | absentia | qtopia is nice, but if you can get QT under x11, no need. |
| 20:10.25 | absentia | I want a portable computer, not a pda. |
| 20:10.39 | absentia | I mean, |
| 20:10.42 | absentia | look at zradio |
| 20:10.45 | absentia | vs xmms (under x11) |
| 20:10.49 | absentia | is there even any contest? |
| 20:11.00 | absentia | look at gimp |
| 20:11.09 | absentia | vs ... drawpad? javapads? tkcpaints? |
| 20:11.12 | absentia | *bletch* |
| 20:11.20 | absentia | gimp is *usable* on the pda. |
| 20:11.25 | absentia | shit. |
| 20:11.35 | absentia | id's like adobe photoshop in your pocket. |
| 20:12.08 | ChipX86 | yeah, and gaim vs qpe-gaim |
| 20:12.09 | ChipX86 | oh wait |
| 20:12.21 | ChipX86 | it's not really that it's X11. It's the design of the software |
| 20:12.22 | absentia | yup |
| 20:12.36 | absentia | qpe gaim is still amazing, though. |
| 20:12.45 | absentia | it's one of the better/ports/conversions. |
| 20:12.51 | ChipX86 | qpe-gaim has the potential to do every single thing gaim can do |
| 20:13.04 | absentia | yup |
| 20:13.10 | ChipX86 | I've spent the past year core/UI splitting every part of gaim. There's only a couple things left |
| 20:13.18 | absentia | :-) |
| 20:13.34 | absentia | I write all my programs with a split between the core and the gui |
| 20:13.34 | ChipX86 | once those are done, there's not really any limitations imposed on qpe-gaim, aside from the restrictions of the UI |
| 20:13.40 | absentia | so I can slap any gui to it. |
| 20:13.41 | ChipX86 | same |
| 20:13.45 | ChipX86 | best way to do it |
| 20:13.47 | catskul | absentia: you said your prboom shows up in landscape. On a c760 ? (what rom are you using and what version of libsdl? ) |
| 20:13.49 | absentia | of cuorse, I dont have many programs... and now I'm switching my gui over to qt stuff. |
| 20:14.13 | absentia | cat: long time ago... I forget... I am pretty sure... it was sharp rom, libsd 1.2.5 or 1.2.6 .. |
| 20:14.19 | absentia | and it was upside down landscape, but it was landscape |
| 20:20.08 | catskul | I imagine some of you have cross compilers set up so you can build zaurus software... is it difficult to set up? |
| 20:21.48 | Disconnect | catskul: can you untar a file? ;) |
| 20:22.17 | catskul | is it that easy ? |
| 20:22.27 | catskul | I though there was alot of patching involved |
| 20:22.53 | treke | setting up the cross compiler is easy |
| 20:22.55 | catskul | and recompiling |
| 20:23.07 | treke | those are pretty much all prebuilt |
| 20:23.37 | catskul | where are they found, and are there gcc3 prebuilt ones ? |
| 20:25.34 | treke | openzaurus.org/offical |
| 20:27.16 | catskul | ahh... I should have figured it would be there... ive been searching for crosscompiler instead of tool chain |
| 20:27.59 | catskul | I wonder why 3.3.2 is so much smaller than 3.3.1 and 2.95 |
| 20:28.15 | catskul | 10mb compared to 40 and 36 |
| 20:28.22 | treke | black magic |
| 20:28.24 | absentia | ya |
| 20:28.27 | absentia | I noticed that |
| 20:28.40 | treke | there really doesnt seem to be much logic to toolchain sizes |
| 20:28.51 | treke | my gcc 3.3.2 toolchain is 70 megs |
| 20:29.32 | catskul | is it best to go with one of the oz specific ones (er "unsupported") ? |
| 20:30.05 | catskul | or the standard ones in the main dir there |
| 20:30.07 | treke | dont use the unsupported ones |
| 20:30.15 | treke | those arent oz specific, they are broken |
| 20:31.31 | absentia | man |
| 20:31.36 | absentia | anyone have formula 1? the math thing |
| 20:31.42 | absentia | man.. I wish I had that when I was in school! |
| 20:31.48 | catskul | there dont seem to be instructions.. it looks like they are supposed to be untared from the root dir ... is that correct ? |
| 20:32.02 | treke | yes |
| 20:32.49 | catskul | thanks |
| 20:35.16 | catskul | where can I find instructions on how to use it ? or is it just a matter of a "gcc -b arm" |
| 20:37.16 | treke | arm-linux-gcc |
| 20:37.24 | treke | using it is the tough part :) |
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| 20:38.47 | catskul | how so ? |
| 20:39.06 | treke | _Psycho: can you r release any source for your zports? |
| 20:39.14 | _Psycho | treke É |
| 20:39.15 | _Psycho | ? |
| 20:39.22 | _Psycho | i only compiled stuff kinda =p |
| 20:39.26 | _Psycho | you mean sdl patches ? |
| 20:39.42 | _Psycho | well scummvm we edited some stuff indeed |
| 20:39.44 | treke | I'm looking for most any patches you have |
| 20:39.46 | _Psycho | and sarien |
| 20:39.55 | _Psycho | i never "did" a patch yet |
| 20:40.12 | treke | since that's fairly easy to do |
| 20:40.15 | _Psycho | and overCLK did 203 changes in sdl that i dont know |
| 20:40.27 | _Psycho | yeah indeed |
| 20:40.28 | treke | I'll hace to poke him them |
| 20:40.38 | _Psycho | 2-3 |
| 20:40.40 | _Psycho | not 203 :) |
| 20:40.47 | treke | hehe |
| 20:40.57 | treke | trying to get ur-qan masters to build atm |
| 20:41.08 | _Psycho | and like i said most others stuff are some minor change like calling SDL_main and makefile change to compile |
| 20:41.49 | _Psycho | I didnt saw overCLK online for a while too |
| 20:42.11 | treke | yeah, if it'sjust makefile changes, I dont care :) |
| 20:42.12 | _Psycho | and i cant boot my other pc under linux atm :) |
| 20:42.37 | _Psycho | I was half done compiling ultima 4 didnt had time to finish |
| 20:43.19 | absentia | I killed my freebsd box yesterday |
| 20:43.25 | absentia | the only browser I have now is my zaurus pda |
| 20:44.04 | _Psycho | Except scummvm and sarien and some others stuff i didnt did much recently (and my qtopia 1.7 image that is quite buggy) |
| 20:45.07 | _Psycho | just checked my MSN he is not online |
| 20:46.08 | _Psycho | will email him and ask |
| 20:48.53 | _Psycho | email done |
| 20:49.00 | _Psycho | ill tell you if he reply fast =p |
| 20:49.27 | _Psycho | I have to reinstall this pc, its so messed up atm stupid win2k im lazy so my irc might crash often :) |
| 20:49.48 | Foxdie | what? |
| 20:49.58 | _Psycho | nothing ! |
| 20:50.00 | Foxdie | you're using win2k and your IRC will crash? |
| 20:50.04 | _Psycho | haha yes |
| 20:50.07 | Foxdie | Windows 2000 Professional, Service Pack 4 (5.0 - 2195) uptime - 2w 6d 23h 35m 16s |
| 20:50.12 | Foxdie | and I'm using mIRC 6.03 |
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| 20:50.24 | _Psycho | its full of virus and backdoor |
| 20:50.33 | _Psycho | im so messed up i cant even load mmc.exe |
| 20:50.35 | Foxdie | only if you don't know how to secure it |
| 20:50.44 | Foxdie | do you have all the latest service packs |
| 20:50.45 | Foxdie | ? |
| 20:50.58 | _Psycho | i have symantec comporate running now but its still too much messed up to fix it |
| 20:51.20 | _Psycho | I dont mind that pc, the only thing he does its like IRC, iCQ and some files sharing |
| 20:51.33 | _Psycho | My other PC is quite different :) |
| 20:52.03 | absentia | my other pc is a zaurus |
| 20:52.08 | absentia | (my other car is a porsche?) |
| 20:52.15 | Foxdie | lol |
| 20:52.17 | Foxdie | that's just wrong scott |
| 20:52.20 | Foxdie | shame on you |
| 20:53.05 | catskul | do I need to dl the arm/zaurus version of qt to do compiling ? |
| 20:53.15 | _Psycho | ya |
| 20:53.15 | catskul | for zaurus apps |
| 20:54.00 | treke | that should take about 5 minutes |
| 20:54.12 | _Psycho | you can compile on your zaurus (probably the easiest i guess) with like zgcc since your zaurus probably have all the libs already, but else you have to compile qt /qte and all other lib like libpng, libjpeg, zlib etc etc on your linux system |
| 20:54.26 | _Psycho | (I think) |
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| 20:55.03 | Foxdie | re |
| 20:55.07 | absentia | re |
| 20:55.18 | Foxdie | re |
| 20:55.25 | _Psycho | there some nice web page around catskul explaining how to setup a compiling environment |
| 20:55.29 | catskul | ugh : P |
| 20:55.32 | absentia | too much damn religion crap |
| 20:55.36 | absentia | bible this, quran that... |
| 20:57.20 | treke | too much of absentia bitching about religion |
| 20:57.58 | Foxdie | :) |
| 20:58.07 | Foxdie | too much bitching full stop. I'm a hypocrite |
| 20:58.51 | catskul | full stop. is redundant : ) |
| 20:58.59 | absentia | it's a damn plague of mankind :-< |
| 20:59.36 | Foxdie | yus :( |
| 20:59.40 | treke | either way shut up about it |
| 20:59.40 | Foxdie | we must kill ourselves |
| 21:00.00 | absentia | treke, it offends you ? |
| 21:00.03 | absentia | are you religious ? |
| 21:00.13 | treke | yes I am religious. It doesnt offend me, it annoys me |
| 21:00.17 | absentia | ah |
| 21:00.20 | absentia | figuresd. |
| 21:01.10 | treke | You have your opinion, that's fine. The annoying part is you sitting here insulting everyone with different beliefs than you |
| 21:02.02 | Foxdie | catskul: spell it correctly first! |
| 21:02.41 | treke | absentia: You're the one who's sad |
| 21:03.03 | catskul | you all are makeing me sad |
| 21:03.22 | absentia | rah rah rah .... |
| 21:03.23 | absentia | rah rah rah |
| 21:03.36 | absentia | everyone be happy (but dim) ... happy ... happy! only happy thoughts are allowed |
| 21:03.41 | catskul | _Psycho: where did you say that compiling envrionment page was ? |
| 21:03.47 | absentia | everyone think happy thoughts! |
| 21:03.53 | absentia | thought power will cure us all. |
| 21:04.12 | catskul | zaurus will make me happy |
| 21:04.56 | treke | absentia: You do realize you are just as annoying with this as the people who go around spouting that the solution for all of the worlds ills is faith |
| 21:05.37 | absentia | treke: yes. |
| 21:05.45 | absentia | I am fully aware and I do realize that. |
| 21:05.47 | absentia | :-< |
| 21:06.27 | _Psycho | catskul not sure i dont ahve them atm, lets me take a look there was a good one on opie.handheld.org or something how to setup OPIE stuff its the same for qtopia but where was another one. Hmmm |
| 21:07.04 | treke | absentia: just as long as you can accept that :) |
| 21:08.44 | catskul | _Psycho: I found something at the zaurus community site |
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| 21:09.18 | catskul | is this what im lookin for? http://community.zaurus.com/projects/qtopia-sdk/ |
| 21:09.31 | treke | nope |
| 21:09.38 | treke | you need to download the source and compile it |
| 21:11.34 | catskul | so If im trying to build a version of doom or quake and im running oz (with opie) do I even need qte libs ? |
| 21:11.50 | treke | yes |
| 21:11.59 | treke | you need qte, qpe, and sdl |
| 21:12.05 | _Psycho | indeed |
| 21:12.10 | catskul | fun fun fun |
| 21:12.40 | _Psycho | its long to setup and compile but once you have done that catskul compiling anything else is quite fast |
| 21:12.49 | _Psycho | since you have all your libs ready etc |
| 21:13.21 | _Psycho | use the toolchains from www.openzaurus.org/toolchains (I think) work very fine |
| 21:13.45 | catskul | I have the tool chain installed, but it doesnt come with the libs doe it ? |
| 21:13.58 | treke | nope |
| 21:14.02 | catskul | If I follow the instructions on opie.handhelds.org I should just be missing sdl right ? |
| 21:14.03 | _Psycho | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/ |
| 21:14.06 | _Psycho | my bad |
| 21:14.30 | catskul | because opie needs qte and qpe |
| 21:14.36 | _Psycho | yeah download libsdl like 1.2.5 or 1.2.6 and there is some zaurus patch available |
| 21:14.51 | _Psycho | like on that japanese web site |
| 21:15.40 | _Psycho | http://www.self-core.org/~kaoru-k/wiki/LibSdlOnLinuxZaurus.html |
| 21:15.52 | _Psycho | Hmm i just saw that guys updated his sdl patch |
| 21:15.58 | _Psycho | i wonder what he changed |
| 21:16.20 | treke | your ok. ur-quan masters finally looks like it's building |
| 21:16.48 | _Psycho | what is ur-quan btw ? |
| 21:16.59 | _Psycho | Your ? :) |
| 21:17.00 | treke | a port of an old game |
| 21:17.08 | treke | actually a port of a port of star control 2 |
| 21:17.31 | _Psycho | oooooh |
| 21:17.48 | treke | http://sc2.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:17.52 | W8TVI | Pocket Zaurus from Japan-> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3166533005&category=7 |
| 21:18.03 | catskul | man... if I ever get all of this working I think Im going to try and make a how to with all of the resources necesary consolidated |
| 21:18.49 | _Psycho | treke i just saw it,its SDL based ? |
| 21:19.25 | _Psycho | catskul it took me like 12-14 hours to get qte, qpe, libsdl, libjpeg, libmad, zlib, etc etc build on my system to compile scummvm =p |
| 21:19.37 | _Psycho | But once you "learn" and know how to do that its easy ;) |
| 21:20.33 | _Psycho | and i found most of the answer on the web |
| 21:20.59 | treke | _Psycho: yes |
| 21:21.04 | _Psycho | treke look awesome |
| 21:21.23 | _Psycho | does it include the data, or you need the original game ? |
| 21:21.39 | _Psycho | (actually i might ahve that on old floppy disk gees hehe) |
| 21:21.45 | catskul | should i get qte or qte free ? |
| 21:22.02 | _Psycho | qte.2.3.7 i guess |
| 21:22.06 | _Psycho | not sure what you doing thought |
| 21:22.20 | _Psycho | not the qte-embedded-free 3.x |
| 21:22.27 | _Psycho | (From memory) |
| 21:22.48 | _Psycho | treke you gonna do a .ipk after ? |
| 21:23.14 | treke | at some point |
| 21:23.29 | _Psycho | thats a nice thing to add to the zports web page =p |
| 21:23.47 | Foxdie | I wonder if we could get ChipX86 to compile GAIM for the X11 ROM :) |
| 21:23.48 | _Psycho | I might do a compile as well hehe |
| 21:24.05 | _Psycho | but not until late tonight too bad |
| 21:24.16 | _Psycho | i need a 3rd "fast" pc for compiling only |
| 21:24.25 | ChipX86 | Foxdie: it's called gtk-gaim |
| 21:24.38 | Foxdie | you know what I mean though :) |
| 21:24.43 | ChipX86 | not going to happen |
| 21:24.52 | Foxdie | how come? |
| 21:25.01 | ChipX86 | Foxdie: I'm stretched really thin |
| 21:25.05 | ChipX86 | I work on a lot of stuff |
| 21:25.13 | Foxdie | is the source available? |
| 21:25.17 | Foxdie | so someone else could do it? |
| 21:26.04 | ChipX86 | gaim is open source, and mostly core/UI split |
| 21:26.08 | ChipX86 | but it's not going to be anywhere near easy |
| 21:26.26 | Foxdie | that counts me out then |
| 21:26.59 | Foxdie | I know I have the ability to learn how to do some serious programming but a). I'm too lazy, b). I've got ADD, and c). read a). :) |
| 21:27.07 | Foxdie | but at least my heart is there :) |
| 21:27.29 | ChipX86 | well, you have to be pretty knowledgeable of the workings of the gaim core and how everything relates |
| 21:27.32 | ChipX86 | it's pretty big |
| 21:28.11 | Foxdie | so it's not going to just be as simple as compiling the gtk-gaim on the X11 ROM-Zaurus itself? |
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| 21:29.12 | ChipX86 | Foxdie: you're going to have to deal with issues like gnutls and stuff |
| 21:29.17 | ChipX86 | and no, it won't be |
| 21:29.24 | ChipX86 | gtk-gaim is really not intended for such a small screen |
| 21:29.27 | Foxdie | that breaks my heart :( |
| 21:29.37 | ChipX86 | gaim's a complex piece of software ;) |
| 21:29.46 | ChipX86 | more so than you might think |
| 21:31.32 | absentia | ahey... |
| 21:31.39 | absentia | are there any free dictgs for bdicty? |
| 21:31.43 | absentia | beiks says there is |
| 21:31.47 | absentia | but I couldn't find any |
| 21:32.48 | absentia | is it me |
| 21:32.54 | absentia | or id www.handango/zaurus just go to shit ? |
| 21:35.50 | absentia | it's me |
| 21:40.51 | absentia | what do people think of uclx compressor ? |
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| 21:47.30 | George- | Foxdie: some asshole added me to the wikipedia :( |
| 21:48.32 | Foxdie | the what? |
| 21:48.42 | George- | online free encyclopaedia |
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| 22:23.56 | freyr | anyway to mount a zaurus through linux? |
| 22:24.03 | freyr | do i need windows or something? |
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| 22:50.07 | Foxdie | odd |
| 22:50.16 | Foxdie | when I cat recursively my zaurus turns off |
| 22:52.04 | Foxdie | tends to happen when catting /etc |
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| 23:14.16 | catskul | the c760 is 16bpp correct ? |
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| 23:18.41 | catskul | should qte be compiled with ./configure -shared |
| 23:18.53 | catskul | or should it be static (default ? ) |
| 23:20.03 | _Psycho | i thought it was shared by default |
| 23:20.05 | _Psycho | strange |
| 23:20.54 | catskul | which should it be ? |
| 23:21.44 | catskul | hmm its trying to compile with arm-linux-g++ as the gcc command |
| 23:21.53 | catskul | and erroring out |
| 23:22.06 | _Psycho | what error ? |
| 23:22.16 | catskul | /bin/sh: line 1: arm-linux-g++: command not found |
| 23:22.27 | catskul | was the tool chain supposed to alias that |
| 23:22.30 | _Psycho | you have a cross compiler installed and in your path ? |
| 23:22.41 | _Psycho | its probably not in your default path |
| 23:22.42 | catskul | maybe not in my path |
| 23:24.06 | catskul | there we go |
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| 23:31.28 | catskul | holy cow ! these take long to compile : P |
| 23:31.28 | catskul | I feel like im compileing a kernel |
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