| 00:00.19 | George- | kergoth: bleh to you too |
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| 00:02.06 | George- | treke: try asking around in #mklinux |
| 00:02.13 | George- | treke: that's where this shit should be directed |
| 00:02.22 | George- | treke: Plus I resent helping you because i hate you :P |
| 00:02.36 | treke | yeahw ell, I resent asking you questionbs because I hate you |
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| 00:08.49 | George- | MG_Tak: what for? |
| 00:10.09 | absentia | re |
| 00:10.52 | MG_Tak | George-: to mortally wound you, of course (and earn the second half of the contract money treke gave me to rid the earth of you) |
| 00:11.44 | absentia | ouch |
| 00:11.45 | treke | remember, it has to be a slow painful death for full payment |
| 00:12.15 | MG_Tak | You try "slow painful death'" when you're blasting around 38,000 feet at 550mph .. |
| 00:12.58 | treke | I reserve the right to decrease payment if he doesnt wish he wasnt born |
| 00:13.09 | treke | though if I were George- life would be sufficient to make that true |
| 00:13.33 | MG_Tak | You took the words right from my fingers. |
| 00:13.51 | treke | great minds think alike |
| 00:14.50 | MG_Tak | There isn't the slightest thing great about my mind. |
| 00:15.44 | treke | oh well. I'm going homew |
| 00:16.29 | Luke-Jr | http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4481058519.html <-- why aren't those features in the Zauruses? o.o;; |
| 00:16.41 | rev | well son |
| 00:16.42 | Luke-Jr | (microphone, camera, voice recognition, etc) |
| 00:16.48 | rev | there are a lot of features that should be in the zaurus and aren't |
| 00:17.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:17.05 | kergoth | http://www.embedded.com/shared/printableArticle.jhtml?articleID=15306077 |
| 00:17.20 | Luke-Jr | The only things the SL-C760 has over that phone is double the storage and a keyboard, as far as I can see.. |
| 00:17.38 | rev | uhhh |
| 00:17.41 | rev | and the screen |
| 00:17.51 | rev | i think the 4x screen space would be more important than all the other factors |
| 00:17.56 | Luke-Jr | oh... forgot that... *wonders what res the phone has* |
| 00:18.00 | rev | 240x320 |
| 00:18.07 | Luke-Jr | hmm |
| 00:18.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:18.15 | rev | least it doesn't have a crappy 200x160 or something |
| 00:18.34 | Luke-Jr | Still, doesn't explain why the Z can't have those things in it =p |
| 00:18.41 | rev | no it doesn't |
| 00:18.47 | rev | but there aren't reasons |
| 00:18.54 | W8TVI | it feels like there is something to the thing |
| 00:18.58 | rev | er, there are reasons |
| 00:19.12 | rev | christ, $750 |
| 00:19.13 | rev | for a phone |
| 00:19.15 | rev | a 240x320 phone |
| 00:19.16 | kergoth | heh, i dont want my phone and cell to come together. i like the guy's point in the aforementioned article |
| 00:19.18 | rev | yeahhhh right |
| 00:19.23 | kergoth | i want small wirelessly connected components |
| 00:19.24 | rev | i don't want a cell phone |
| 00:19.25 | kergoth | bt |
| 00:19.32 | rev | and i certainly don't want it to be builtin to my pda |
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| 00:19.39 | rev | considering how i'd have to buy a new pda if i wanted to switch carriers, etc |
| 00:19.55 | rev | i want a little matchbox sized pack that is just a GRPS <->bluetooth bridge |
| 00:19.59 | rev | no lcd, no mic, no speaker |
| 00:20.02 | rev | but a cellphone in some ways |
| 00:20.11 | W8TVI | the handspring visor was a good idea for mixing cell phone and pda |
| 00:20.15 | rev | i could keep it in my pocket or backpack and get anywhere cell acces through it |
| 00:20.17 | rev | or a CF card i suppose |
| 00:20.20 | W8TVI | you could take out the cellphone |
| 00:20.29 | luke-jr_ | For a phone just about as good as the C760 |
| 00:20.34 | rev | W8TVI: do you mean because of the springboard pack? |
| 00:20.50 | W8TVI | yeah |
| 00:20.55 | rev | luke-jr_: you can get a PDA (not a phone) with the same specs as that phone for $200 |
| 00:20.59 | rev | nothing special |
| 00:21.13 | luke-jr_ | rev: with a 400 MHz XScale? |
| 00:21.15 | rev | yes |
| 00:21.22 | rev | heh |
| 00:21.23 | rev | ! |
| 00:21.32 | rev | not a phone though |
| 00:21.34 | treke | why start now |
| 00:21.42 | rev | touche |
| 00:21.46 | W8TVI | rev, they had a cellphone springboard |
| 00:21.58 | W8TVI | it made the pda a voice cellphone |
| 00:21.59 | rev | W8TVI: you can get CF cards that make your pdai nto a cellphone |
| 00:22.02 | rev | luke-jr_: linux tax |
| 00:22.08 | luke-jr_ | rev: No such thing |
| 00:22.16 | rev | heh |
| 00:22.20 | treke | luke-jr_: Zaurus's arent particularly expensive |
| 00:22.21 | rev | maybe not for the license |
| 00:22.23 | W8TVI | the handsprings all had a mic built in |
| 00:22.28 | treke | they are the same price as most pdas |
| 00:22.28 | luke-jr_ | treke: $700 is alot more than $200 |
| 00:22.41 | treke | Zaurus's are 300-500 |
| 00:22.42 | ljp | can you also get cf cards that make your phone into a pda? |
| 00:22.47 | luke-jr_ | treke: C760 is $700 |
| 00:22.50 | treke | no it isnt |
| 00:23.11 | luke-jr_ | since when? |
| 00:23.19 | W8TVI | rev, but can it make your zaurus a voice cellphone too? |
| 00:23.19 | treke | Since they were first released |
| 00:23.27 | rev | ok, iwas full of shit; but you can get 400 MHz XScales for less than $300 |
| 00:23.42 | treke | Dynamism may charge 700 bucks for them, but that is the cost of importating a foreign product |
| 00:23.48 | rev | W8TVI: well not the Z, but WinCE PDAs |
| 00:23.56 | rev | dynamism charges $800 |
| 00:23.56 | rev | but anyway |
| 00:23.58 | luke-jr_ | treke: so it's $200 just to import it? |
| 00:24.00 | rev | unless the price dropped |
| 00:24.06 | rev | well and for their "work" on it |
| 00:24.08 | treke | luke-jr_: and translate it |
| 00:24.10 | treke | and support it |
| 00:24.16 | rev | yup |
| 00:24.19 | luke-jr_ | treke: Who said anything about translation or support? |
| 00:24.19 | rev | totally |
| 00:24.29 | rev | people who want to use it care aobut those things |
| 00:24.30 | treke | luke-jr_: That's what dynamism does. |
| 00:24.31 | rev | it's a factor in the price |
| 00:24.32 | absentia | anyone flash the latest cacko x11 rom? |
| 00:24.34 | absentia | what has changed? |
| 00:24.57 | luke-jr_ | if I did, it would have been $800 |
| 00:25.05 | absentia | mine was $817 delivered. |
| 00:25.10 | treke | I payed about 600 and something for shipping, importing, and the cost of transferring the money |
| 00:25.27 | luke-jr_ | where? |
| 00:25.32 | treke | brando |
| 00:25.44 | W8TVI | I'd rather get one from the guy that orders one for you and just sends it to you |
| 00:25.48 | treke | But we are *importing*, that adds to the price |
| 00:25.54 | W8TVI | yeah him |
| 00:26.08 | treke | since the importer has to get it from someone and will be charging you for the privilege of sending it out of country |
| 00:26.43 | treke | in stores in Japan the prices are significantly lower |
| 00:27.59 | rev | oi |
| 00:27.59 | W8TVI | its too bad that it'd cost about the same amount to fly there and back as it would be to order one |
| 00:28.05 | rev | this conversation is as retarded as my cat |
| 00:30.08 | Foxdie | nuuuuuuu |
| 00:30.12 | Foxdie | bailyes |
| 00:30.17 | Foxdie | I need baileys |
| 00:30.20 | Foxdie | this lager is nasty |
| 00:30.20 | rev | heh |
| 00:30.35 | rev | and opens himself a 14% barely-wine style ale |
| 00:30.35 | rev | mmmm |
| 00:30.39 | rev | lager, not my thing |
| 00:31.17 | absentia | foxdie: does zug have the latest rom from cacko mirrored? |
| 00:31.34 | rev | luke-jr_: http://www.usedhandhelds.com/store/asp/product.asp?recorprod=7&product=122&cat=24&ph=&keywords=&recor=1&SearchFor=&PT_ID=1 |
| 00:31.44 | rev | luke-jr_: not a cell phone, but wifi instead; no camera, but $209 |
| 00:31.45 | absentia | http://www.cacko.biz/feed/ROM-0319241203/slc7x0-x11rom-0319241203.zip |
| 00:31.53 | kergoth | hmm, the OE toolchain build cant build mips or mipsel chains |
| 00:31.58 | kergoth | wonder if we need another patch for glibc |
| 00:32.12 | treke | rev: the screen/keyboard is well worth the price imo :) |
| 00:32.21 | treke | without it it would be a horribly overpriced device |
| 00:32.34 | rev | treke: i mean compared to that ass-spensive $750 QVGA phone |
| 00:32.39 | rev | i will never use a QVGA thing |
| 00:32.40 | rev | pfft |
| 00:32.51 | rev | if i wanted a zaurus, no way i'd get anything below a used C700 |
| 00:33.18 | treke | god I would be soo happy |
| 00:33.21 | cyn_ | there's NO reason to get a phone for that much |
| 00:33.22 | rev | well, i'd get a Qvga thing if it was superduper cheap and used just for ebooks |
| 00:33.29 | absentia | yum |
| 00:33.32 | absentia | 6K/sec from cacko |
| 00:33.33 | cyn_ | yah rev |
| 00:33.38 | rev | treke: jornada/200lx style? or more like the c7x0? |
| 00:33.43 | Foxdie | the latest X11 ROM? |
| 00:33.44 | Foxdie | I have it! |
| 00:33.46 | absentia | ya |
| 00:33.47 | Foxdie | I can dcc at 25k/sec |
| 00:33.49 | cyn_ | rev: sony sells some nice low ends with 320x320 sexy screens |
| 00:33.49 | treke | rev: dunno |
| 00:33.53 | Foxdie | because I'm sexy |
| 00:33.53 | cyn_ | rev: good for ebookage |
| 00:33.55 | treke | rev: maybe somewhere in the middle |
| 00:34.00 | absentia | I can suck down from zug at 1MB/sec |
| 00:34.24 | rev | i want to get a cheap QVGA or even 160x160 thing for reading ebooks and to maybe even use as a *ghasp* PDA |
| 00:34.25 | absentia | because I'm sexier. |
| 00:34.39 | cyn_ | don't bother 160x160 |
| 00:34.47 | rev | well, if it's free i don't care |
| 00:34.49 | cyn_ | brand new devices are cheap enough that it's not worth it |
| 00:34.51 | cyn_ | yea well, there's that |
| 00:34.52 | absentia | http://www.spy.org/zaurus/images/res-comp.gif |
| 00:34.53 | rev | i'll take a donation of a palm IIIe |
| 00:34.53 | absentia | remember that gif |
| 00:35.06 | rev | absentia |
| 00:35.07 | rev | i made that |
| 00:35.09 | rev | i won't forget it |
| 00:35.13 | ljp | bleh |
| 00:35.14 | absentia | :-) |
| 00:35.37 | rev | bestbuy had some color $99 sony clies on clearance |
| 00:35.40 | absentia | It is very useful when explaining to people the res of the zaurus 7x0 |
| 00:35.40 | rev | considered buying one for ebooks |
| 00:35.45 | rev | but meh, still $99 i don't have :) |
| 00:35.48 | rev | yeah totall |
| 00:35.51 | rev | why i made it :D |
| 00:35.56 | W8TVI | rev, I'll sell ya a sony sj-20 with serial and USB cable for $50 |
| 00:35.57 | rev | really illustrates it |
| 00:36.13 | absentia | you can load up the image in opera, full screen |
| 00:36.14 | rev | W8TVI: thought your mom used it? |
| 00:36.16 | cyn_ | the sj-20 was the black and white but with rechargable? or it took normal batteries |
| 00:36.17 | absentia | on the zaurus 7x0 and show people |
| 00:36.36 | W8TVI | rev: nope |
| 00:36.39 | rev | W8TVI: i'll give you $40 for it |
| 00:36.48 | W8TVI | cyn_, lith-ion |
| 00:36.59 | cyn_ | W8TVI: does it charge from the usb cable |
| 00:37.05 | W8TVI | rev: no deal... |
| 00:37.08 | rev | absentia: jeeze, where'd you get that? |
| 00:37.22 | W8TVI | no, it has a power supply |
| 00:37.26 | cyn_ | aww |
| 00:37.27 | MG_Tak | that is cheap |
| 00:37.42 | cyn_ | that's good for avg. joe but for comp geeks usb charging is betterer |
| 00:37.48 | W8TVI | I paid $45 for this Palm Vx |
| 00:37.57 | rev | i prefer a real power supply anyday myself |
| 00:38.07 | rev | i don't connect my "pda"s to desktops |
| 00:38.14 | rev | i sure as hell don't want to rely on usb for charging |
| 00:38.19 | W8TVI | the sj-20 has a 33mhz CPU, a MS slot, 16mb ram |
| 00:38.27 | cyn_ | I don't see relying on it as a good thing |
| 00:38.30 | cyn_ | but having it available is nice |
| 00:38.41 | rev | never used it even when i did |
| 00:38.43 | cyn_ | my question wasn't if the ONLY power was usb, it was if usb could charge it |
| 00:38.48 | rev | that said, never used a cradle either |
| 00:38.59 | cyn_ | cradles are nice for burning desk space |
| 00:39.02 | cyn_ | they look cool |
| 00:39.08 | cyn_ | and get nice and dusty |
| 00:39.14 | rev | heh |
| 00:39.23 | cyn_ | thats my experience with cradles |
| 00:40.11 | rev | i broke my vtech helio :/ |
| 00:40.21 | cyn_ | how was that |
| 00:40.23 | rev | first non-fake linux pda |
| 00:40.25 | rev | well |
| 00:40.26 | rev | it works |
| 00:40.29 | rev | but the case is crap |
| 00:40.47 | rev | i slipped on the stairs, dropped it and the little clips that hold each part of the case together must've broke |
| 00:40.52 | rev | so it doesn't clip together well |
| 00:44.29 | treke | the ipaqs get their power over the usb port |
| 00:46.14 | rev | the c760 charged from usb |
| 00:46.46 | kergoth | bleh |
| 00:46.50 | kergoth | i should go home |
| 00:46.54 | rev | yes |
| 00:46.54 | rev | go |
| 00:47.06 | kergoth | but.. theres no internet there yet |
| 00:47.11 | kergoth | cause those fuckers at Bell havent fixed it |
| 00:47.16 | rev | fuckers |
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| 01:23.34 | treke|home | bell sucks |
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| 01:30.59 | Foxdie | hello omin0us :) |
| 01:31.28 | omin0us | hey Foxdie |
| 01:31.29 | omin0us | whats up |
| 01:32.01 | Foxdie | just flashing the latest X11 rom while under the influence :) |
| 01:32.54 | omin0us | heh |
| 01:33.03 | omin0us | I think you will like the new one |
| 01:33.26 | Foxdie | well I'm not struck on the holding down the stylus for right mouse click |
| 01:33.31 | Foxdie | but the speed enhancements are good |
| 01:33.34 | omin0us | We've had a 760 running stably at 470mhz |
| 01:33.36 | kergoth | treke|home: have you talked to sash at all about working with us on the base distro behind his roms? |
| 01:33.39 | Foxdie | you know I don't even know whats in this version I'm flashing |
| 01:34.12 | Foxdie | I'm so pathetic :( |
| 01:34.21 | omin0us | the newest beta mostly just has some kernel patches for speed etc. And a GUI cpu Overclocker |
| 01:34.44 | omin0us | anyone had a go at compiling 2.6.0 yet? |
| 01:34.52 | kergoth | compiling 2.6.0 for what? |
| 01:35.00 | omin0us | isn't there supposed to be a lot more support for handheld devices in it? |
| 01:35.05 | kergoth | eh |
| 01:35.08 | james_lan | heh... Overclock your handheld... the new rave... |
| 01:35.08 | kergoth | no. |
| 01:35.25 | omin0us | for a mac... |
| 01:35.26 | omin0us | lol |
| 01:35.31 | omin0us | jk |
| 01:35.35 | omin0us | for the zaurus |
| 01:35.48 | kergoth | 2.6.0 doesnt support the zaurus. |
| 01:35.53 | George- | moooooooooo |
| 01:35.57 | kergoth | adding Z support wont take long, when we have time to do it |
| 01:36.02 | omin0us | i heard that 2.6.0 had more support for mobile devices. eg: better power management etc. |
| 01:36.04 | George- | kergoth: well fix it you slacking asshole |
| 01:36.19 | kergoth | "better power management" != zaurus support |
| 01:36.20 | omin0us | George: you should work on it |
| 01:36.26 | George- | omin0us: fuck off |
| 01:36.27 | George- | :P |
| 01:36.29 | kergoth | there are board specific bits |
| 01:36.39 | kergoth | theres a lot more to support than just supporting the architecture |
| 01:36.42 | omin0us | i didn't say "zaurus support" once |
| 01:36.49 | omin0us | i said mobile |
| 01:36.53 | james_lan | be nice :) |
| 01:37.00 | kergoth | i just fucking told you |
| 01:37.04 | kergoth | 2.6.0 doesnt support the zaurus |
| 01:37.12 | kergoth | so you cant "compile it" for the zaurus |
| 01:37.17 | omin0us | ok |
| 01:38.43 | George- | kergoth: write the board specific bits, slacker |
| 01:40.30 | George- | kergoth: btw - how's 2.4.21 going? |
| 01:40.37 | George- | kergoth: abandoned now that 2.6.0 is out? |
| 01:41.15 | kergoth | George-: heh, i have a 2.5.somethingorother tree that boots on a collie device |
| 01:41.18 | kergoth | somewhere |
| 01:41.28 | kergoth | no, 2.4.21 is our next release, then we push all those bits forward |
| 01:41.52 | George- | any idea whether it'll be out before i die? |
| 01:42.25 | kergoth | depends on how soon treke has you killed |
| 01:42.37 | George- | :P |
| 01:42.41 | treke|home | bah, just say screw .21 :p |
| 01:42.53 | George- | well, he's already said "screw .19" |
| 01:43.10 | Foxdie | anyone know if it's safe to leave the user flash area unformatted after installing an X11 ROM update? |
| 01:43.29 | treke|home | so? :p |
| 01:44.45 | George- | the point is that kergoth's crap at being a kernel hacker |
| 01:44.56 | George- | he's been working on Zaurus support in .21 for at least 6 months now |
| 01:45.02 | George- | and there's still nothing to be seen :) |
| 01:45.13 | George- | kergoth does a better job of making vapourware than I do :) |
| 01:45.46 | omin0us | George: at least you got the ball rolling for .18 :) |
| 01:46.07 | Pendalar | you are probably not helping to encourage the group by griping about speed |
| 01:46.29 | George- | omin0us: yes, well, I got fed up of memory issues because I'm on a 5000D |
| 01:46.47 | George- | Pendalar: I'm only trying to annoy kergoth :) |
| 01:46.55 | omin0us | George-: i so envey you :rolleys" |
| 01:47.00 | Pendalar | from what I hear you have that perfected |
| 01:47.05 | George- | Pendalar: unfortunately, since kergoth left digi he hasn't been getting his daily dose of annoyance. |
| 01:47.19 | George- | Pendalar: so I need to make up for that |
| 01:47.23 | Pendalar | I'm sure he gets a dose of Austin people |
| 01:47.44 | George- | he says he loves the job at TI in comparison to the tech support at digi |
| 01:47.46 | George- | iirc |
| 01:47.46 | George- | :P |
| 01:47.52 | George- | which is a BAD THING |
| 01:48.06 | George- | As fellow annoying people, we must UNITE and ANNOY HIM |
| 01:48.26 | Pendalar | I think you are a singular group, an army of one |
| 01:48.37 | james_lan | and you want him to get it done, when? 2039? |
| 01:48.37 | George- | I am certainly an army |
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| 01:48.55 | George- | james_lan: well, I think it's pretty much decided .21 will never be finished |
| 01:48.57 | George- | :) |
| 01:48.57 | treke|ho1e | fuck. I got a disk stuck in the driv3e |
| 01:49.06 | George- | the driv3e? |
| 01:49.48 | omin0us | George-: you've never heard of a driv3e? |
| 01:49.50 | james_lan | I really dislike 74|\/|3R talk... |
| 01:50.01 | treke|ho1e | good for you |
| 01:50.05 | omin0us | lmao |
| 01:50.13 | George- | omin0us: nah |
| 01:50.21 | George- | omin0us: wtf is a driv3e |
| 01:50.32 | omin0us | driv3e's are the hottest new thing |
| 01:50.32 | treke|ho1e | what the fuck do you think it is |
| 01:50.47 | George- | treke|ho1e: a... golf club? |
| 01:51.06 | George- | ibot: search google for driv3e |
| 01:52.06 | George- | I got some blog about some guy that says he's not wearing any pants... |
| 01:52.12 | George- | is that what a driv3e is?!! |
| 01:52.15 | George- | not wearing pants? |
| 01:53.41 | George- | omin0us: you're a cacko developer?!?! |
| 01:55.36 | Foxdie | omin0us it's you who is working with the cacko team now isn't it? |
| 01:55.49 | omin0us | yeah |
| 01:56.02 | George- | Oh dear. |
| 01:56.13 | Foxdie | it doesn't seem any quicker with the new kernel |
| 01:56.35 | omin0us | Oh dear? |
| 01:56.56 | kergoth | George-: heh, i finished 95% of the 2.4.21 work in 2 weeks flat. |
| 01:57.02 | George- | kergoth: nice :) |
| 01:57.09 | George- | kergoth: where's the other 5% you slacker???!?!? |
| 01:57.10 | kergoth | then i got distracted.. |
| 01:57.12 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:57.22 | George- | you mean the move to Texas? |
| 01:57.30 | omin0us | kergoth: that porn will get you every time |
| 01:57.43 | omin0us | Foxdie: what is there to figure out? |
| 01:57.48 | kergoth | George-: mostly it was the change in focus to the new build infrastructure |
| 01:57.50 | omin0us | its pretty self explanitory |
| 01:57.52 | Foxdie | well what exactly it is :) |
| 01:57.54 | kergoth | George-: then the move just added more crap |
| 01:58.00 | George- | hahaha |
| 01:58.09 | Pendalar | I think I've managed to get on kergoth's ignore list ;-) |
| 01:58.16 | omin0us | its a utility for using the Z as a super expensive usb card reader |
| 01:58.17 | George- | in other words, you couldn't be bothered? |
| 01:58.30 | George- | and you decided that transitioning the buildroot would be easier to handle? |
| 01:58.31 | George- | :P |
| 01:58.38 | George- | in other words... YOU'RE A SLACKER! |
| 01:58.39 | George- | :) |
| 01:58.59 | George- | I must make a new years resolution to stop consciously annoying the shit out of people on IRC |
| 01:59.11 | omin0us | haha |
| 01:59.20 | George- | actually |
| 01:59.21 | Pendalar | the best way to do that is let us do something mean to you every time you fail |
| 01:59.26 | Pendalar | involving /ban or something |
| 01:59.31 | George- | that's been my new years resolution for the past 4 years |
| 01:59.33 | kergoth | i should make a new years resolution to stop restraining myself from killing people |
| 01:59.38 | kergoth | i'll start with George- |
| 01:59.52 | George- | kergoth: unfortunately I'm 10000 miles from you :P |
| 02:00.21 | kergoth | acinclude.m4:276: /usr/bin/m4: ERROR: Recursion limit of 1024 exceeded, use -L<N> to change it |
| 02:00.24 | kergoth | autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 |
| 02:00.26 | kergoth | arg |
| 02:00.31 | kergoth | nothing like watching autoconf go into an infinate recursion |
| 02:00.38 | George- | kergoth: anyway, your absence due to prison won't harm the community, you don't do anything apart from spread shit about your vaporware ;) |
| 02:01.10 | George- | kergoth: I still protest that you should have a beard. |
| 02:02.29 | George- | don't you guys agree? |
| 02:02.34 | George- | that kergoth should have a beard? |
| 02:03.29 | Foxdie | ooooooooooh |
| 02:03.32 | Foxdie | shiney |
| 02:04.24 | treke|home | oh yeah this is styling |
| 02:04.29 | treke|home | twm at 8bit color |
| 02:04.46 | omin0us | treke: why are you using twm? |
| 02:04.52 | omin0us | did you delete your xinitrc? |
| 02:04.56 | treke|home | it's what came up by default |
| 02:05.01 | omin0us | lol |
| 02:05.09 | omin0us | install fluxbox |
| 02:05.22 | omin0us | and it will install a backup of the Openbox/ROX xinitrc |
| 02:05.26 | treke|home | fluxbox sucks |
| 02:05.27 | omin0us | then just run setxdefault |
| 02:05.33 | omin0us | i know |
| 02:05.37 | omin0us | i mean |
| 02:05.40 | treke|home | openbox sucks now also |
| 02:05.43 | omin0us | no, i like fluxbox |
| 02:05.57 | omin0us | but it will bring up Openbox/ROX if thats what you're wanting |
| 02:06.15 | treke|home | no that isnt what I'm wanting |
| 02:06.20 | omin0us | then what do you want? |
| 02:06.29 | omin0us | tvm in 8bit? |
| 02:06.43 | treke|home | let's start with a new car |
| 02:06.47 | treke|home | and maybe a blonde |
| 02:06.48 | George- | kergoth: YOU BASTARD |
| 02:06.53 | omin0us | ok |
| 02:07.02 | omin0us | i'll see if i can build that for it |
| 02:07.09 | kergoth | hrm? |
| 02:07.09 | George- | kergoth deleted his pictures on geocities |
| 02:07.13 | kergoth | oh, yeah |
| 02:07.26 | kergoth | i should buy a digital camera |
| 02:07.32 | George- | kergoth has a face like a ship's boiler |
| 02:07.43 | kergoth | George-: quiet, potter |
| 02:07.51 | treke|home | it's his hair that is really gay |
| 02:07.57 | George- | treke|home: hahahaha |
| 02:07.57 | George- | :) |
| 02:07.58 | omin0us | treke|home: whats wrong with fluxbox anyways? i love it |
| 02:08.09 | kergoth | heh, yeah it was |
| 02:08.14 | George- | kergoth: damn, they were the only pictures of you on the internet that I know of |
| 02:08.22 | George- | kergoth: and you looked like a spud. |
| 02:08.23 | kergoth | George-: thats correct |
| 02:08.27 | kergoth | they were the only ones |
| 02:08.34 | George- | and they've GONE?!? |
| 02:08.36 | George- | GRRR |
| 02:08.42 | kergoth | good riddance |
| 02:08.44 | George- | bastard |
| 02:09.26 | George- | i shall |
| 02:09.28 | George- | kill you. |
| 02:09.40 | George- | (said in the voice of stewie from Family Guy) |
| 02:10.55 | omin0us | kergoth: wow, that was quite a retort to George beating the shit out of you |
| 02:11.02 | omin0us | impressive :p |
| 02:11.05 | kergoth | omin0us: wasnt it though? |
| 02:11.52 | George- | kergoth has the gayest hairstyle I've ever seen |
| 02:12.02 | George- | in fact. |
| 02:12.04 | George- | kergoth is gay |
| 02:12.39 | kergoth | ehh, no. |
| 02:13.37 | George- | hehe |
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| 02:14.14 | *** kick/#zaurus [George-!kergoth@zelda.tuxnami.org] by kergoth (banned for 15 minutes) |
| 02:14.36 | kergoth | ah, sweet, sweet silence. |
| 02:15.29 | treke|home | ugh |
| 02:16.14 | treke|home | its scary the shit you find in your random images directory |
| 02:16.23 | kergoth | hehe, true that |
| 02:17.16 | kergoth | treke|home: ack |
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| 02:18.19 | treke|home | http://treke.net/images/greg.jpg |
| 02:23.12 | omin0us | lol |
| 02:23.41 | omin0us | treke: you just barely saw goatse? |
| 02:23.43 | omin0us | :p |
| 02:23.59 | treke|home | no, I saw it a long time ago. |
| 02:24.06 | treke|home | I just saw it hiding in my images folder |
| 02:25.32 | omin0us | heh |
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| 02:30.05 | rev | *hic* |
| 02:30.13 | kergoth | heh |
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| 02:32.06 | George- | grrrr |
| 02:32.12 | George- | I STILL CAN'T FIND MY ANY KEY!!!! |
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| 02:32.37 | George- | ass. |
| 02:32.45 | George- | help me find it then |
| 02:32.45 | George- | :P |
| 02:41.36 | ljp | look in qnamespace.h there is Key_Any defined in there |
| 02:42.14 | George- | ljp: thanks a lot ljp :) |
| 02:42.16 | treke|home | hmmm. I was doing good at this catching crap with my right hand. I'm gonna hurt myself with my left though :) |
| 02:51.12 | treke|home | ljp: nope |
| 02:51.21 | treke|home | not quite white trash |
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| 03:01.11 | chouimat | night |
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| 03:04.19 | George- | TREKE HAS A MULLET?!?! |
| 03:04.34 | George- | botty: lart kergoth |
| 03:04.40 | George- | botty: beat up kergoth |
| 03:05.21 | chouimat | botty: lart George- |
| 03:05.31 | George- | botty: kill chouimat |
| 03:06.09 | George- | botty: whaleslap chouimat |
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| 03:06.41 | sig | with the new Sharp 3.10 ROM I can't get vncserver to work |
| 03:06.50 | George- | ~whaleslap sig |
| 03:06.52 | | ACTION slaps sig upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 03:06.52 | sig | anyone have any ideas why? or know why? |
| 03:07.09 | sig | kergoth: |
| 03:07.37 | George- | Wed Dec 24 03:12:10 GMT 2003 |
| 03:07.40 | George- | grah, bed time |
| 03:07.43 | George- | botty: time? |
| 03:07.43 | botty | George-: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 03:07.49 | sig | George-: why do you insist on being such a lame ass? |
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| 03:07.58 | sig | this channel blows ass because of you. |
| 03:08.04 | George- | sig: I know :) |
| 03:08.13 | *** part/#zaurus sig (~sig@sig.registered.freenode) |
| 03:08.18 | George- | shit. |
| 03:08.24 | johncd | I am looking to clean the crap of my screen before putting on a screen protector, what is recommended for my zaurus? |
| 03:08.35 | George- | johncd: a lint free cloth? |
| 03:08.50 | George- | botty: time? |
| 03:08.50 | botty | i heard time is 1:46 |
| 03:08.54 | George- | rofl |
| 03:09.04 | johncd | George- is one recommended? cause I used an old one and it just got even more crap on it |
| 03:09.15 | George- | johncd: I use an optex microfibre |
| 03:09.33 | George- | ibot: fishslap test |
| 03:09.36 | | ACTION slaps test up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 03:09.36 | johncd | no need for a spray? |
| 03:09.42 | George- | botty: fishslap test |
| 03:09.43 | botty | George-: are you smoking crack? |
| 03:09.49 | George- | johncd: no |
| 03:10.15 | johncd | George- thanks |
| 03:10.39 | George- | botty: zaurus? |
| 03:10.41 | botty | George-: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 03:10.49 | George- | this is fun, botty's learning from ibot |
| 03:12.38 | George- | kergoth: g'nite |
| 03:12.47 | kergoth | night |
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| 04:04.27 | benr | w00t, my Zaurus just arrived. :) |
| 04:04.38 | treke|home | cool deal |
| 04:04.52 | benr | there is no terminal in the default rom? |
| 04:04.53 | treke|home | time to start writing an evas based pda environment |
| 04:04.55 | treke|home | nope |
| 04:05.14 | benr | is there some trick to getting it? or should I just head for OZ now. |
| 04:06.51 | benr | btw, there is a commercial implementation of EVAS just for embeded devices you know: http://www.fluffyspider.com.au/products/fp/fp.html |
| 04:09.26 | treke|home | commercial implementation of evas? |
| 04:09.55 | treke|home | I take it fluffyspider.com is rasteR? |
| 04:10.19 | treke|home | now that is fucking beautiful |
| 04:11.29 | benr | well, fluffyspider is the company he worked for. |
| 04:11.38 | benr | they were makign set top boxes with EVAS |
| 04:11.51 | treke|home | ah. I remember raster saying he wanted to do something like this |
| 04:11.56 | benr | project sunk though when the Japanese manufaturer pulled out. |
| 04:12.19 | benr | and EVAS now does YUV conversion native.... so we can do full motion video with nooooooooo problems. |
| 04:14.41 | absentia | congrats |
| 04:16.25 | treke|home | alright. time to figure out mencoder/transcode |
| 04:16.36 | benr | what ya trying to do? |
| 04:16.42 | benr | i've been playing with it alot lately. |
| 04:17.05 | benr | personally, I like transcode over mencoder... much more friendly. |
| 04:17.10 | treke|home | is it? |
| 04:17.25 | treke|home | Want to try reencoding some video files to mpeg2 |
| 04:17.33 | benr | oh hell ya, just look at the args for mencoder vs transcode! :) |
| 04:17.43 | benr | SVCD stuff? |
| 04:17.55 | absentia | re |
| 04:17.59 | treke|home | actually looking to do dvd. |
| 04:18.04 | benr | ahhhh. |
| 04:18.11 | treke|home | Nothing really important just want to see if it can be done :) |
| 04:18.49 | benr | http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/html/mpeg.html |
| 04:19.05 | benr | I've been playing with SVCD myself.... going from DIVX and XVID to mpeg2. |
| 04:19.32 | benr | make sure you look at the resolution on the video, ify ou don't get it just right the players freak out. |
| 04:19.35 | treke|home | hehe. yeah. Just bought this burner so I've been playing with it quite a bit :p |
| 04:19.47 | benr | does it do DVD-RAM? |
| 04:19.56 | treke|home | nope |
| 04:20.19 | benr | bummer....... i don't know why people aren't crazy in love with DVD-RAM..... it's a damned 4.2G floopy! |
| 04:20.19 | treke|home | just [+-]R(W?) |
| 04:21.06 | W8TVI | who would want to mess with a huge slow floppy? |
| 04:21.28 | benr | people who deal with video that they need off their drives but may need later. |
| 04:21.35 | treke|home | benr: good question |
| 04:21.58 | benr | CD's are too small, Tape is too slow. and DVD as a single write is just too expensive. |
| 04:22.13 | benr | sure it's slow, but it's the best solution around. |
| 04:22.36 | benr | it'd be great for backups too. |
| 04:22.42 | benr | where speed isn't really a problem. |
| 04:23.44 | treke|home | dvds are pretty slow for me, and I like single write media :) |
| 04:24.36 | benr | i have alot of data that i often think of just deleting, but later wish I had..... it'd be nice to just push it onto DVD-RAM and know it's there later if I need it. |
| 04:25.58 | benr | damn, freetype2 is going to be a pain in the ass to Xcompile. |
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| 04:29.08 | Pendalar | absentia? |
| 04:29.56 | treke|home | benr: oe |
| 04:30.00 | absentia | hi |
| 04:30.05 | absentia | on Z |
| 04:30.10 | Pendalar | ah.. |
| 04:30.29 | Pendalar | check the my wiki changes for sanity whenever you can, if you don't mind |
| 04:30.32 | absentia | checking new format of zaurus.spy.org |
| 04:30.34 | absentia | ok |
| 04:31.03 | Pendalar | mostly in the liason and documentation areas |
| 04:31.28 | benr | so in the default rom there is no way to get at the OS directly? |
| 04:31.37 | absentia | ok |
| 04:31.44 | treke|home | benr: pretty much |
| 04:31.48 | Pendalar | weird site.. |
| 04:31.49 | absentia | telnet in |
| 04:31.51 | Pendalar | neat but weird |
| 04:31.56 | absentia | which? |
| 04:34.43 | Pendalar | this zaurus.spy.org |
| 04:35.02 | absentia | what's weird 'bout it? |
| 04:35.44 | Pendalar | so much data just dumped in a wad |
| 04:35.47 | Pendalar | freaks me out |
| 04:36.08 | absentia | heheh |
| 04:36.26 | Pendalar | somebody's been busy |
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| 04:41.04 | benr | there is no newever version of the USBdnet patch than 2.4.19? |
| 04:44.33 | absentia | ye |
| 04:44.44 | absentia | have a lot more.. need to make better comments |
| 04:47.16 | absentia | looks lame under netfront |
| 04:47.27 | absentia | cant make netfront not wrap the content |
| 04:47.50 | absentia | under opera, in column mode, something in the html breaks and everything is a link |
| 04:47.58 | absentia | *sigh* |
| 04:49.28 | benr | grrrrrrrr. |
| 04:49.30 | benr | okey, new plan. |
| 04:49.36 | benr | how do i crash QT? |
| 04:49.37 | benr | :) |
| 04:51.46 | absentia | why do you want to do that? |
| 04:51.56 | absentia | ok |
| 04:52.13 | absentia | page looks bad under netfront and konquerer at 320x240 |
| 04:52.15 | absentia | blah |
| 04:57.30 | absentia | the pda links are good |
| 04:58.00 | absentia | first link under urls... unorganized |
| 05:04.43 | treke|home | benr: no there is no newer version of the patch than .19 |
| 05:04.58 | treke|home | benr: since the code was added into the kernel in .21 |
| 05:08.48 | benr | treke|home: it's just called usbnet? |
| 05:09.00 | treke|home | yup |
| 05:09.11 | benr | ah, so I do have the right one... kool... thanx. |
| 05:09.19 | treke|home | enable zaurus support |
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| 05:33.48 | absentia | night |
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| 06:25.25 | weez|away | anyone around here know exactly what shsync does? I would assume it is for snychronizing with a PC and thus safely disabled if that feature is not needed... |
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| 09:56.10 | benr | how do I format a CF card? |
| 09:56.21 | benr | with the default rom. |
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| 10:12.16 | CodeWarrior | yo |
| 10:18.24 | ljp | hi |
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| 16:11.13 | absentia | didja see TimMonk's location... |
| 16:11.24 | absentia | a "bombed out palace in Baghdad" |
| 16:11.24 | absentia | heh |
| 16:19.23 | Foxdie | bloody hell ABolager |
| 16:19.27 | Foxdie | er absentia |
| 16:19.34 | Foxdie | you trying to go for the most posts? |
| 16:21.01 | absentia | caught me in my morning read/post cycle. |
| 16:24.09 | Foxdie | I'm not sure if it was wise |
| 16:24.39 | Foxdie | from the X11 ROM boot menu I backed up my user partition, flashed the new ROM, and then restored the user partition |
| 16:24.46 | Foxdie | I'm not sure if I should have |
| 16:25.02 | absentia | ya |
| 16:25.09 | absentia | I don't "trust" the backup / restore |
| 16:25.11 | absentia | on these devices |
| 16:25.12 | absentia | at all. |
| 16:25.29 | absentia | I prefer "rsync" to a remote store. etc... but even then, that's just the same as recovering files. |
| 16:25.37 | absentia | but then you can' just dump data, or you might miss some. |
| 16:25.43 | absentia | it's one of the things computers are still not good at. |
| 16:31.08 | Foxdie | sashz needs to come here |
| 16:31.17 | Foxdie | I'm stuck with something :/ |
| 16:31.32 | Disconnect | Foxdie: between the old and new x11 rom it does strange things to calibration and the menus and such are on the user partition.. best bet is to wipe it :( |
| 16:31.53 | Disconnect | without that it didn't even fix the tab/caps issue |
| 16:31.57 | Foxdie | yeah I had to delete the calibration pointer |
| 16:32.27 | Foxdie | my problem is I'd written a script that changed fn+3,4 to actually work with adjusting the screen brightness, I was going to release it today |
| 16:32.41 | Foxdie | but when I press those keys now I get some message about a file group being unassigned |
| 16:36.08 | Disconnect | hrm. 1,2,3 are for mouse buttons.. |
| 16:36.13 | Disconnect | (I think..?) |
| 16:36.42 | Disconnect | no, its ctrl-1/2/3.. |
| 16:39.33 | absentia | yes |
| 16:39.38 | absentia | I get the error about the filegroup all the time |
| 16:39.47 | absentia | I thought it was some rox wm error. |
| 16:47.39 | Disconnect | strange |
| 16:51.40 | Foxdie | here we go |
| 16:52.18 | Foxdie | "Group x is not set. Select some files and press Ctrl+x to set the group. Press x on its own to reselect the files later. Make sure NumLock is not on if you use the keypad" where x is the key you press with fn |
| 17:00.18 | Foxdie | Disconnect |
| 17:00.38 | Foxdie | can you tell me what programs the overclocking utility and the usb storage utility points to? |
| 17:04.18 | Foxdie | and how in de hell do I fix the tab / capslock? |
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| 17:16.46 | absentia | yum |
| 17:16.54 | absentia | just added $109 worth of sushi to the free platter they're sending. |
| 17:17.09 | Disconnect | cool |
| 17:17.20 | Disconnect | send some over here ;) |
| 17:17.30 | George- | happy xmas eve to everyone (except chouimat)!!!!!! |
| 17:17.37 | absentia | www.koodosushi.com |
| 17:21.28 | Foxdie | same to you george, hope you get nice presents |
| 17:21.53 | Foxdie | shame we couldn't afford a tree this year :/ |
| 17:22.14 | Foxdie | that or my parents didn't want the hell of cleaning up pine needles |
| 17:23.42 | treke|home | hmmm. I suppose I should wrap this gift for my parents |
| 17:24.58 | Foxdie | so can anyone help me? I need the overclocking app name and the usb storage app name from the latest X11 ROM |
| 17:33.20 | Foxdie | :( |
| 17:37.19 | usual | Foxdie, my parents bought a fake tree years ago because of needles |
| 17:37.25 | Foxdie | heh |
| 17:37.52 | Foxdie | so no one can tell me the name of the apps I seek? |
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| 17:53.50 | Foxdie | scott? Discon? |
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| 18:20.54 | Foxdie | bah no one gonna help me then? |
| 18:21.24 | Pendalar | usb storage app.. explain |
| 18:21.34 | Pendalar | it doesn't have a USB host in the device |
| 18:22.35 | Foxdie | it can be a usb client |
| 18:22.50 | Foxdie | basically it turns the USB port into a USB storage device |
| 18:23.04 | Foxdie | it basically turns the Zaurus into an expensive card reader |
| 18:24.47 | Pendalar | I doubt that exists.. *thinking* |
| 18:25.36 | Pendalar | as far as overclock there's only 2 on ZSI, QOverClock and Zaurus Overclock Tool |
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| 18:32.30 | treke|home | Pendalar: you can doubt that exists, but it does |
| 18:32.55 | Pendalar | url? I'm interested |
| 18:33.02 | treke|home | RTS |
| 18:33.11 | treke|home | it's part of the kernel source. |
| 18:33.20 | Disconnect | Pendalar: the one he's looking for is part of the X rom from cacko |
| 18:33.35 | Foxdie | yeah I need to know the applications names |
| 18:33.44 | Pendalar | oh I'm talking about an ready to download app that utilizes such a device like on ZSI |
| 18:33.50 | Foxdie | just the application names so I can add the shortcuts back in the apps folder |
| 18:34.14 | Foxdie | I found itI think |
| 18:34.15 | Foxdie | one sec |
| 18:34.22 | Disconnect | ala nfs, only cooler. (hrm. or offer 2 partitions/views - one in ext2, one in vfat..) |
| 18:34.24 | treke|home | Pendalar: ready to download ap? It's a kernel driver that hotplug loads as needed |
| 18:34.27 | Foxdie | nope |
| 18:34.32 | Foxdie | oclock != overclock |
| 18:34.48 | Foxdie | wow |
| 18:34.53 | treke|home | ah overclockin |
| 18:34.54 | Foxdie | starting xclock crashes X11 |
| 18:35.45 | Pendalar | treke|home: I mean like a GPS utilization app, but if it was some sort of media a filebrowser or whatever |
| 18:35.54 | Pendalar | but yeah I should probably just hush ;-) |
| 18:36.19 | treke|home | Pendalar: right there is nothing to use with it. You plug it into the computer and your computer is where you access it |
| 18:36.27 | Disconnect | check /usr/.apps.rom/Settings/OverClock |
| 18:36.30 | *** join/#zaurus ph (~phi00-irs@pacs.hostsharing.net) |
| 18:36.36 | treke|home | it pops up in whatever format a usb cf reader or hard drive would appear |
| 18:37.01 | Pendalar | basically to do like the c860 will with the drive thing? |
| 18:37.15 | treke|home | that's exactly what we are talking about |
| 18:37.17 | Disconnect | treke|home: are there any safeties to prevent the computer and Z from having a partition mounted at the same time? |
| 18:37.19 | absentia | ok |
| 18:37.22 | absentia | just ate food |
| 18:37.23 | Foxdie | thanks Disconnect :) |
| 18:37.26 | absentia | now we go home |
| 18:37.31 | Disconnect | cya absentia |
| 18:37.50 | treke|home | Disconnect: Probably. Didnt dig into the script too deeply |
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| 18:38.18 | Foxdie | the actual app is /usr/local/qt/bin/qclockchange |
| 18:38.38 | Foxdie | although it's missing |
| 18:38.54 | Disconnect | the erase-user-partition probably sets up all the appropriate links. |
| 18:39.03 | Disconnect | LOTS of things were missing when I didn't do that, and many others didn't function. |
| 18:39.55 | Pendalar | absentia: beef? =-x |
| 18:40.04 | absentia | beef? |
| 18:40.08 | absentia | no, nomad cow disease here |
| 18:40.09 | absentia | we had sushi |
| 18:40.11 | Pendalar | heh |
| 18:40.14 | Pendalar | =-) |
| 18:40.20 | absentia | the sushi place where I orer ou luch sent me (us?) free sushi ($70) wortth. |
| 18:40.24 | absentia | we added another $100 on top of that |
| 18:40.31 | absentia | they also sent me a card and some japanese sushi dishes. |
| 18:40.32 | Pendalar | that's a lot of sushi.. |
| 18:40.39 | Pendalar | generally the stuff is pretty cheap |
| 18:40.40 | absentia | ya, we're pigs. |
| 18:40.49 | absentia | www.koodosushi.com |
| 18:40.54 | absentia | this place makes sushi an art |
| 18:40.56 | Pendalar | cool I'll look |
| 18:41.02 | absentia | almost everything is 9 or 10 out of 10 |
| 18:49.39 | Disconnect | Foxdie: I'd bet you drink some or another form of rotted fruit and/or vegetable. |
| 18:49.55 | absentia | it's not necessarily cold |
| 18:50.01 | Disconnect | ..or fishy-tasting. |
| 18:50.01 | absentia | .raw, yes.. cold.. not always. |
| 18:50.04 | Foxdie | I like orange juice |
| 18:50.08 | Foxdie | I never liked coffee or tea |
| 18:50.15 | absentia | good sushi isn't "fishy" ... |
| 18:50.19 | Disconnect | in fact, fishy-tasting (and smelling) is often a good indication that its bad sushi and not to be eaten. |
| 18:50.20 | absentia | but there is a lot of bad sushi |
| 18:50.26 | absentia | and sushi that can be more "fishy" than others. |
| 18:50.30 | Disconnect | (some fish are in fact fishy-smelling but skip those for now ;) ..) |
| 18:50.37 | absentia | dis: exactly. |
| 18:50.43 | absentia | dis: yes. |
| 18:51.10 | absentia | for instance, salmon sushi... is probably one of the easiest... or "tuna roll" ... both are very simple and easy. |
| 18:51.25 | Disconnect | Foxdie: any sort of alcohol is fermented (can you say 'rotted'?) fruit or vegetable. and - for that matter - so is any bread (any bread. at all.) and all forms of cheese. |
| 18:51.43 | Disconnect | well... almost any bread. I meant any leavened bread (not the flat ones ;) ..) |
| 18:51.59 | Foxdie | oh I know that |
| 18:52.07 | Foxdie | it's just I can't see raw fish tasting good |
| 18:52.27 | *** join/#zaurus pchan (~arfarf@h17n3c1o1003.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 18:52.39 | pchan | anyone here gotten wellenreiter or kismet working on their zaurus? |
| 18:52.39 | Disconnect | ..but it bears little/no resemblence to cheese.. |
| 18:52.49 | pchan | I cant find and pcap package that will install... |
| 18:52.54 | Foxdie | pchan: you warwalker! |
| 18:52.56 | Foxdie | :) |
| 18:53.07 | absentia | pc: not yet.. but there has been a lot of work lately on both. |
| 18:53.16 | absentia | fox: how old are you ? |
| 18:53.25 | Foxdie | I'm nearly 21 mate. |
| 18:53.27 | absentia | ah |
| 18:53.30 | absentia | you still have time. |
| 18:53.34 | pchan | Foxdie: Not yet ;) |
| 18:54.20 | pchan | Foxdie: I just unwrapped mine :D |
| 18:54.27 | Foxdie | one day early!? |
| 18:54.31 | pchan | Im in europe |
| 18:54.31 | Foxdie | BAD PCHAN! |
| 18:54.37 | pchan | We celebrate on the eve |
| 18:54.38 | Foxdie | so what, I'm in the UK! |
| 18:54.57 | pchan | well, julafton is julafton :P ;) |
| 18:55.19 | Foxdie | well I can |
| 18:55.21 | Foxdie | but it'd spoil it |
| 18:55.36 | Foxdie | damn it, conflicting emotions suck :( |
| 18:55.57 | Foxdie | if I don't open it now it burns to know what's in it, if I do open it I'll feel guilty |
| 18:56.14 | pchan | hehe |
| 18:56.15 | Foxdie | damn it the wrapping has a lot of sex appeal, I must tear it off!!!! |
| 18:56.23 | pchan | resist! |
| 18:56.27 | pchan | :D |
| 18:56.32 | Foxdie | Oh yeah this is why I bought a lot of alcohol, so I would get drunk and forget about it |
| 18:56.37 | Foxdie | mmmmmmmmmm baileys |
| 18:56.53 | Foxdie | problem is I only have one bottle |
| 18:56.57 | pchan | haha |
| 18:57.06 | Foxdie | only enough to get drunk for a couple of hours and there's still about 8 hours until I go to bed |
| 18:57.13 | Foxdie | well 7 |
| 18:57.33 | Foxdie | nasty |
| 18:58.09 | Foxdie | I wish I could repay him but I'm unemployed :( |
| 18:58.16 | Foxdie | damn it, why do I suffer from guilt? |
| 18:59.04 | pchan | you dont like ragnar |
| 18:59.11 | Foxdie | I've never tried it, it sounds nasty though |
| 18:59.17 | Foxdie | whats in it? |
| 18:59.23 | pchan | Erm |
| 18:59.32 | pchan | Sprite, vodka, lime if your feeling ritzy |
| 18:59.49 | *** topic/#zaurus by Foxdie -> Zaurus Discussion - http://www.zaurus.com/ - http://myzaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus help in #openzaurus (george-) | Welcome to #NoWeAreNotZaurusUsers-WeAreAlcoholics! |
| 18:59.49 | *** topic/#zaurus by ChanServ -> Zaurus Discussion - http://www.zaurus.com/ - http://myzaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus help in #openzaurus (george-) |
| 18:59.57 | Foxdie | well that sucks |
| 18:59.57 | pchan | LOL |
| 19:00.02 | pchan | Hrm :/ |
| 19:00.13 | Foxdie | heh sprite and vodka sounds tastable |
| 19:00.19 | pchan | Its very tastable. |
| 19:00.20 | absentia | nasty |
| 19:00.29 | pchan | WTF, its awesome! |
| 19:01.15 | Disconnect | Foxdie: welcome to zima. |
| 19:01.19 | Foxdie | zima? |
| 19:01.38 | pchan | Zima is a girlie drink. |
| 19:01.43 | Foxdie | how does one change the damn topic? |
| 19:01.52 | pchan | ./topic one would assume. |
| 19:02.01 | Foxdie | nope, that's a local command, chanserv overrides it |
| 19:02.10 | pchan | Hrmph! |
| 19:02.13 | absentia | zima is... nasty nasty nasty |
| 19:02.14 | Foxdie | but on this network there's no //chanserv topic # command |
| 19:02.20 | Foxdie | I haven't tried zima |
| 19:02.21 | treke|home | you need permission to change the topic |
| 19:02.30 | Foxdie | but I don't drink manly alcohol like lager or beer |
| 19:02.48 | *** topic/#zaurus by treke|home -> Zaurus Discussion - http://www.zaurus.com/ - http://myzaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus help in #openzaurus |
| 19:02.48 | *** topic/#zaurus by ChanServ -> Zaurus Discussion - http://www.zaurus.com/ - http://myzaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus help in #openzaurus (george-) |
| 19:03.25 | *** join/#zaurus offroadgeek (~offroadge@dsl092-250-237.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 19:03.28 | Foxdie | heh what was the terminal command to get back a suspended process? |
| 19:03.40 | treke|home | fg |
| 19:03.51 | Foxdie | thanks |
| 19:04.03 | Foxdie | I tried to push mplayer into the background with & but it must have just suspended it |
| 19:04.12 | Foxdie | heya offroadgeek, hows things? |
| 19:21.11 | *** join/#zaurus johncd (~stsd@London-HSE-ppp3544899.sympatico.ca) |
| 19:21.15 | johncd | hello |
| 19:23.40 | johncd | do you need a new AC power adapter when charging in Canada/USA? |
| 19:25.18 | Foxdie | for which zaurus? |
| 19:25.24 | johncd | zaurus sl-c860 |
| 19:25.31 | Foxdie | I think so |
| 19:25.51 | Foxdie | anything that can produce 5V / 1A is good enough |
| 19:26.03 | Disconnect | Foxdie: it wouldn't matter which zaurus.. it matters what the line power is, and afaik us and canada use the same./ |
| 19:26.10 | Disconnect | (us is 120/66) |
| 19:26.20 | johncd | Disconnect - but the adapter is 100 |
| 19:27.05 | Disconnect | johncd: and what is wall power in canada? its either 120 (in which case its -already- working fine) orr 240, in whcih case its already on fire... |
| 19:27.11 | Disconnect | oh .. hang on. I misunderstood. |
| 19:27.15 | Disconnect | yah, the 100v works fine. |
| 19:28.03 | johncd | Disconnect - should I get a new 120v just in case? |
| 19:28.30 | Disconnect | why? |
| 19:28.43 | johncd | might mess up my zauurs |
| 19:30.13 | Disconnect | ...you'd trust a random radio-shack power brick over the one that sharp ships? heh. ok. |
| 19:30.18 | offroadgeek | hey foxdie |
| 19:30.24 | offroadgeek | things are well |
| 19:30.25 | offroadgeek | :) |
| 19:30.28 | offroadgeek | you? |
| 19:30.35 | johncd | Disconnect - so it's ok to use a 100v in a 120v socket? |
| 19:31.01 | Disconnect | johncd: <Disconnect> yah, the 100v works fine. |
| 19:31.08 | johncd | hehe |
| 19:31.09 | johncd | ok |
| 19:32.35 | johncd | I tried using a eyeglass lint free cloth on my zaurus screen, which resulted in even more dust and some oil. I will be buying a new lint free cloth, but should I also buy a cleaning solution? |
| 19:33.09 | Disconnect | probably wouldn't be a bad idea. and some of the palm (tungston IIRC) screen protectors mostly fit |
| 19:33.20 | Disconnect | use pda/laptop stuff on pdas and laptops..... |
| 19:34.14 | johncd | so the zaurus doesn't have any special coating on the screen that may come off? |
| 19:34.50 | pchan | Anyone managed to get pcap installed? |
| 19:48.38 | absentia | re |
| 19:53.28 | Reddog-[Away] | pcap works fine for me |
| 19:53.42 | pchan | Which package did you use? |
| 19:53.54 | pchan | I cant find one that will install on my sharp rom! :( |
| 19:54.04 | Reddog-[Away] | ah, dunno then.. i'm using OZ 3.1 |
| 19:55.06 | pchan | Ok, thanks anyways. :) |
| 20:05.05 | pchan | Anywho, is there a painless/good solution that you would recommend for playing divx movies on my Z? |
| 20:05.46 | Disconnect | kino2 if its a 7x0/8x0 Z |
| 20:07.34 | pchan | Nope, 5500 |
| 20:14.57 | *** join/#zaurus offroadgeek[760] (~offroadge@dsl092-250-033.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 20:20.34 | absentia | hey geek |
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| 20:22.14 | *** part/#zaurus UndrWater (~rdwigg@adsl-67-122-1-1.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 20:24.18 | offroadgeek[760] | absentia, to what? |
| 20:24.53 | absentia | to |scott|nothere| |
| 20:25.00 | absentia | abs(scott) |
| 20:25.07 | offroadgeek[760] | ahh.. |
| 20:25.20 | absentia | hey |
| 20:25.24 | offroadgeek[760] | hey |
| 20:25.24 | absentia | I use the forums at zug |
| 20:25.29 | offroadgeek[760] | cool |
| 20:25.30 | absentia | what other things there are noteworthy? |
| 20:25.54 | offroadgeek[760] | the unofficial zaurus faq, the ho-to docs (wiki) |
| 20:26.05 | absentia | I went to the howtos.. didn't see too many |
| 20:26.09 | absentia | I should check out the faq again. |
| 20:26.22 | offroadgeek[760] | if you use x11, then we have a fast mirror of files/feed |
| 20:26.28 | absentia | yup |
| 20:26.34 | absentia | sometimes I suck down from zug |
| 20:26.46 | absentia | <6K/sec from cacko is crazy. |
| 20:27.02 | Disconnect | absentia: it went as high as 10K once last night. ;) |
| 20:27.22 | offroadgeek[760] | there should be quite a few how-tos there... I copied everything from the docs.zaurus.com site to there |
| 20:27.45 | absentia | w00 |
| 20:27.50 | offroadgeek[760] | the cacko team is rectifying that :) |
| 20:27.54 | absentia | cool |
| 20:28.09 | absentia | are there any projects of note on community.zaurus.com ? |
| 20:28.16 | absentia | I haven't ever made it 2 pages deep there |
| 20:28.32 | absentia | I need to reorg my dirs so they are more accessible. |
| 20:28.35 | absentia | able. |
| 20:29.40 | offroadgeek[760] | dont know of many of the projects on the community site... never there |
| 20:29.59 | absentia | how's the net bandwidth usage at zug ? |
| 20:30.17 | offroadgeek[760] | you mean how much are we using? |
| 20:30.56 | absentia | ya |
| 20:31.54 | offroadgeek[760] | it's about 40-50gb/month transfer... and the throughput has peaked at 800k/sec |
| 20:32.20 | offroadgeek[760] | this months bill will be a bit high |
| 20:33.03 | absentia | that was me |
| 20:33.05 | absentia | :-< |
| 20:33.14 | absentia | ah |
| 20:33.22 | absentia | I have flat feed... 1000GB mo |
| 20:33.25 | offroadgeek[760] | why you? were you mirroring stuf? |
| 20:33.31 | absentia | but I don't really have any way to measure it |
| 20:33.42 | absentia | I sucked down the x11 feed from youonce. |
| 20:33.51 | absentia | I get > 800K/sec from you. |
| 20:33.54 | offroadgeek[760] | I think many people have ;) |
| 20:34.18 | offroadgeek[760] | does your host provide throttle your throughput? |
| 20:34.22 | absentia | no |
| 20:34.37 | offroadgeek[760] | I dont understand how the colo I'm at works... |
| 20:34.41 | absentia | not sure... I think it's 100Mbit local... |
| 20:34.48 | absentia | I've seen a max of 1.5MB/sec |
| 20:35.06 | absentia | but I didn't try two dls at the same time... |
| 20:35.27 | absentia | I think my throttle is the hardware connection, not a software setting. |
| 20:35.55 | offroadgeek[760] | supposedly I get 200k/sec... with 2mb burst... but we've been steady at 600+ kb/sec... so they charge for overage... for every additional 200k |
| 20:37.09 | offroadgeek[760] | we'll be adding a mod to apache to throttle the downloads and feeds folders... |
| 20:37.10 | pchan | where can i add locations to my path? |
| 20:37.14 | pchan | there is not /etc/profile |
| 20:38.13 | absentia | org: cool |
| 20:39.23 | offroadgeek[760] | should be... if we can get it installed correctly... thats why the site was down the other night :( |
| 20:40.00 | absentia | ah |
| 20:44.55 | absentia | ok |
| 20:45.03 | absentia | lets see if this blased cisco card is any better than the smc |
| 20:45.08 | absentia | every time I lean forward, the smc kicks out |
| 20:45.42 | Foxdie | any poets here? |
| 20:45.43 | offroadgeek[760] | kicks out of your zaurus? |
| 20:45.56 | offroadgeek[760] | not here |
| 20:46.35 | offroadgeek[760] | that'll be cool |
| 20:49.31 | offroadgeek[760] | I have to get ready to go do the family thing |
| 20:50.16 | absentia | my poetry is embarassingly septic.... |
| 20:50.22 | absentia | hmmm. maybe that's not the right word. |
| 20:52.00 | absentia | insipid... vapid ... |
| 20:52.01 | absentia | better. |
| 20:57.25 | absentia | dump! |
| 20:57.27 | Foxdie | Not many years ago, christmas eve was serene, |
| 20:57.32 | absentia | I wrote a story once.. using sunos unix(1) commands.. |
| 20:57.35 | absentia | but ut turned into pr0n |
| 20:57.43 | Foxdie | the snow had fallen, the kids cried "cor blimey", |
| 20:57.51 | Foxdie | eve gave way to day, and santa had been |
| 20:57.58 | Foxdie | he left by my side a zaurus so shiney |
| 20:58.04 | Foxdie | the sexiest thing that I had ever seen |
| 20:58.10 | Foxdie | because of that my hand is quite slimey :/ |
| 20:58.16 | absentia | muahaha |
| 20:58.30 | Foxdie | quite crude :) |
| 20:59.31 | Foxdie | what other word rhymes with shiney? |
| 20:59.41 | absentia | whiney |
| 20:59.41 | ChipX86 | grimey |
| 20:59.47 | absentia | hiney, grimey |
| 20:59.55 | absentia | blimey.... |
| 21:00.12 | absentia | not all poetry has to rhyme. |
| 21:00.13 | Disconnect | orange... |
| 21:00.22 | johncd | does cacko have an x11 rom for the 860 |
| 21:00.22 | johncd | ? |
| 21:00.34 | absentia | j: think so |
| 21:00.41 | Foxdie | john: yes |
| 21:00.43 | Disconnect | I suspect you'd have to look at the site.. |
| 21:00.45 | treke|home | 760==860 with new paint job |
| 21:00.52 | Foxdie | get the latest X11 ROM rom the ZUG |
| 21:00.53 | johncd | ok cool |
| 21:01.04 | johncd | Foxdie - why ZUG, which not Cacko? |
| 21:01.10 | absentia | much much much faster |
| 21:01.12 | Foxdie | cause the ZUG mirrors it and is faster than cacko's site |
| 21:01.15 | absentia | I get 800K/sec from zug |
| 21:01.21 | treke|home | because their website is hosted on a straw out of russia |
| 21:01.24 | absentia | I also have the latest rom and feeds |
| 21:01.30 | absentia | I'll stop moving my files around shortly. |
| 21:01.31 | absentia | :-> |
| 21:01.51 | Foxdie | http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=getit&lid=152 |
| 21:01.52 | absentia | fox: yup |
| 21:01.55 | Foxdie | thats the latest X11 ROM |
| 21:01.56 | johncd | ok cool thanks |
| 21:02.17 | absentia | nice url... much worse than zaurus.spy.org/roms/cacko/x11/current |
| 21:02.30 | johncd | and are these instructions, seem here http://www.cacko.biz/index.php?showid=2&menuid=1 , the same for my 860? |
| 21:02.59 | Foxdie | yup |
| 21:03.12 | johncd | cool |
| 21:04.31 | johncd | I have a question, when I first turned it on I saw the "Zaurus" logo. Are there supposed to be horizontal gray lines passing through the Zaurus Logo or is it a problem with my screen |
| 21:04.32 | johncd | ? |
| 21:05.06 | offroadgeek[760] | I've heard of someone else having that problem... but once they flashed/rebooted... they went away |
| 21:05.42 | absentia | I got vertical lines when I inserted my linksys wcf12 cf wifi card from hell .. into a machine with oz |
| 21:06.02 | Foxdie | michael: you using Xchat? |
| 21:06.07 | Foxdie | wanna know if I can pm you |
| 21:06.11 | johncd | offroadgeek[760] - so it's a problem with the software, not the screen? |
| 21:06.36 | offroadgeek[760] | dont know for sure... I dont remember that with mine.... |
| 21:06.54 | johncd | can you check it out? |
| 21:07.09 | offroadgeek[760] | but I was helping someone here on irc with they're first flash... and that happened. |
| 21:07.14 | johncd | cause I tried talking to this guy in japan, and he can't even speak english |
| 21:08.09 | ljp | what?! they dont speak english in japan?! |
| 21:08.21 | absentia | no, they speak german ? |
| 21:08.26 | treke|home | they are a bunch of freaks |
| 21:08.34 | ljp | next thing you'll say is that they have a different word for everything |
| 21:08.50 | johncd | ljp - the guy I ordered it from spoke english, but he wouldnt provide help once I received it |
| 21:09.18 | ljp | he only said he spoke english - he really didn;t know wtf he was saying |
| 21:09.31 | ljp | :) |
| 21:10.06 | Disconnect | johncd: if it was brando, thats exactly what it says all over his site... |
| 21:10.06 | johncd | that bastard :) |
| 21:10.18 | johncd | Disconnect - no it was High-Tech Company |
| 21:10.30 | johncd | but hey, I got an 850 for $610 shipped |
| 21:10.39 | Disconnect | is mtdram shipped in oz anywhere? |
| 21:10.39 | johncd | got it in 3 days |
| 21:25.17 | Foxdie | My friend in finland won 2 logitech quickcam messengers (one for me, one for himself) in a logitech competition, guess what he just got from his sister for xmas?!! |
| 21:27.06 | offroadgeek[760] | bye all... merry chrismas! |
| 21:27.14 | absentia | bye |
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| 21:39.43 | benr | anyone have a suggestion on a good Zaurus case? |
| 21:41.16 | Foxdie | which model? |
| 21:43.25 | benr | C5500 |
| 21:43.42 | benr | er, SL5500 |
| 21:57.19 | pchan | Weird problem #123123 i cant run datebook, complaings about a missing .so file, run it as root and everything is fine |
| 21:57.30 | pchan | Normally, i would run ldconfig, but that doesnt exist on the zaurus. |
| 22:01.01 | *** join/#zaurus sig (~sig@sig.registered.freenode) |
| 22:01.08 | sig | anyone have a feed url? |
| 22:01.17 | sig | for the Sharp ROM specs ? |
| 22:01.42 | absentia | what program are you looking for ? |
| 22:01.45 | Disconnect | um. why would specs be in a feed? |
| 22:01.49 | sig | several |
| 22:01.56 | absentia | name some |
| 22:02.06 | sig | absentia: I just flashed to the 3.10 sharp rom |
| 22:02.14 | sig | and for some reason vncserver doesn't work on it |
| 22:02.29 | sig | can't type from my pc or control via my mouse like I can in openzaurus or the older sharp rom |
| 22:02.29 | absentia | oh |
| 22:02.54 | absentia | zaurus.spy.org |
| 22:03.06 | sig | ahh |
| 22:03.07 | sig | k |
| 22:03.08 | sig | thanks |
| 22:03.11 | absentia | zaurus.spy.org/feeds |
| 22:03.15 | absentia | are my local mirror feeds. |
| 22:03.28 | absentia | don't let the smoke out! |
| 22:03.52 | Disconnect | its a 512, too. prolly I should put it down and stop playing with it until the urge to open it passes ;) |
| 22:03.59 | absentia | ouch |
| 22:04.01 | absentia | mine is 512 too |
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| 22:24.56 | absentia | foreach x ( `find /z/. -name \*.ipk | sed 's/\/[^\/]*$//' | sort -u` ) |
| 22:24.58 | absentia | nice |
| 22:32.28 | pchan | Weird problem #123123 i cant run datebook, complaings about a missing .so file, run it as root and everything is fine |
| 22:32.35 | pchan | Any clues? |
| 22:32.42 | absentia | what .so file ? |
| 22:33.45 | Reddog-[Away] | prolly a permissions issue on the .so file |
| 22:33.53 | absentia | that would be rare |
| 22:35.22 | pchan | No |
| 22:35.29 | pchan | Its libtkc.so.1 |
| 22:35.54 | absentia | find / -name \*tkc.so\* > /tmp/tkc & |
| 22:36.03 | absentia | wait for that command to finish |
| 22:36.26 | pchan | I know where it is, /home/qtpalmtop/lib |
| 22:36.28 | pchan | or something like that |
| 22:36.40 | absentia | ah |
| 22:38.26 | pchan | Its odd, very odd. |
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| 22:51.41 | daniel_ | Hi! |
| 22:52.37 | daniel_ | I just got my zaurus c760 last week, and i'm now wondering what's "the best" rom for it? |
| 22:53.18 | daniel_ | what do you guys use? sharp, openzaurus? what's about cacko linux?? |
| 22:53.42 | absentia | I have old cacko 170 on my 760, but I'll probably move to x11 soon. |
| 22:53.52 | absentia | for me, that's my best choice. |
| 22:53.55 | absentia | it may not be for you. |
| 22:54.53 | sig | sharp rom 3.10 freezes when I try to screenshot/scap |
| 22:55.00 | daniel_ | hmm, why are there no messages regarding cacko's x11 rom on the message boards? or am i just blind? |
| 22:55.35 | absentia | very |
| 22:55.39 | absentia | which board[s] are you looking at? |
| 22:56.10 | daniel_ | externe.net and www.zaurus.com/dev/board/ ?? |
| 22:56.18 | absentia | ah! |
| 22:56.22 | daniel_ | which are the best? |
| 22:56.25 | absentia | zaurus.spy.org/#FORUMS |
| 22:56.26 | absentia | nice |
| 22:56.32 | daniel_ | thx |
| 22:56.35 | absentia | ZUG is becoming the most active |
| 22:56.40 | absentia | zaurus.com/dev/board is second |
| 22:56.43 | absentia | extern is dying a slow death |
| 22:57.02 | absentia | which one were you using ? |
| 22:58.43 | daniel_ | i never posted something. just read them more or less active (more less ;) |
| 22:59.07 | absentia | ok |
| 22:59.11 | absentia | zug has a section on the x11 rom |
| 22:59.18 | daniel_ | what are the disadvantages from the X11 rom? |
| 22:59.31 | absentia | it's not qt/opie compat, at this time. |
| 22:59.33 | daniel_ | thx, i will have a look on that.. |
| 22:59.38 | absentia | if you're not use to x11, it canbe quite a change... |
| 22:59.51 | absentia | the gadget isn't really a pda, at that point.. it's more a mini computer. |
| 23:00.05 | absentia | the x11 currently lacks some "pims" ... so, if that's a big deal, stay clear FOR NOW. |
| 23:01.11 | daniel_ | no, not at all. actually, i bought it to play around with it. |
| 23:01.16 | benr | grrrrrrrr. |
| 23:01.17 | absentia | ah |
| 23:01.29 | absentia | do yo know unix/linix ? |
| 23:01.38 | benr | I get link errors when try to install pkg's on the CF. :( |
| 23:01.41 | absentia | you'd probably find X11 and/or OZ most ... comforting. |
| 23:02.20 | daniel_ | yep. i'm a long time linux user. i study computer science and programm a lot. |
| 23:02.25 | absentia | ok |
| 23:02.28 | absentia | then you'll be at home. |
| 23:03.30 | daniel_ | great. i'm really looking forward to hack with my fresh installed rom ;) |
| 23:03.36 | absentia | :-) |
| 23:05.37 | daniel_ | Is somebody from you guys here from germany and visit the Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin? |
| 23:05.41 | daniel_ | www.ccc.de/congress/2003 |
| 23:05.48 | absentia | chaos computer club |
| 23:06.03 | daniel_ | jep |
| 23:06.15 | absentia | I don't speak german |
| 23:06.18 | absentia | but I work at Commerzbank. |
| 23:06.53 | daniel_ | many talks are in english. just look at the webpage. |
| 23:06.59 | daniel_ | where are you from? |
| 23:07.15 | absentia | New York City. |
| 23:07.21 | absentia | I'm scrambling all my zaurus files now |
| 23:08.46 | daniel_ | oh, ok, then no congress for you ;) you have the defcon, though. |
| 23:08.57 | absentia | :-) |
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| 23:22.08 | daniel_ | well. thx for your support again. i just download the x11 rom from today. i'm so excited ;) |
| 23:22.19 | absentia | good luck! |
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