| 00:52.38 | dhr | MG_Tak: "opt" is a theoretical page replacement policy. Invented by Belady. Impossible to implement without time travel. It is the best possible strategy so it is used to compare with real ones. |
| 00:53.20 | dhr | s/best possible/perfect/ |
| 00:55.23 | absentia | re |
| 00:56.43 | absentia | syl |
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| 01:22.24 | absentia | re |
| 01:29.18 | MG_Tak | dhr: a little late but thank you :) |
| 01:29.37 | MG_Tak | dhr: it's not impossible in class project situations. |
| 01:29.48 | MG_Tak | and my implementation is particularly ugly and inefficient. |
| 01:31.21 | absentia | ? |
| 01:31.36 | MG_Tak | opt page replacement |
| 01:35.19 | dhr | opt is simple if you run time backward. |
| 01:35.51 | MG_Tak | well, we're not running backward but we can look ahead |
| 01:35.54 | MG_Tak | it's a really simple project |
| 01:36.06 | MG_Tak | I just wasn't clear on the fact that it was looking ahead when I asked the question 6 hours ago :) |
| 01:41.11 | absentia | ? |
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| 01:45.04 | gerrynjr | mites! |
| 01:45.08 | gerrynjr | more mites! |
| 01:45.18 | gerrynjr | I left it in the sun |
| 01:45.23 | gerrynjr | it jsut incubated eggs! |
| 01:45.33 | Pendalar | mites own you... you just don't know it yet |
| 01:45.35 | W8TVI | put it in the frige |
| 01:45.48 | W8TVI | and put it on the lowest setting |
| 01:45.57 | gerrynjr | that will kill the pda |
| 01:46.50 | Pendalar | put it in something that is air tight, or if you have a vacuum system... |
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| 01:47.04 | Pendalar | by vacuum I don't mean the carpet cleaning version =-p |
| 01:47.40 | gerrynjr | Pendalar> that would break the screen as well |
| 01:47.48 | gerrynjr | I tried the vacuum in the chem lab... |
| 01:47.53 | gerrynjr | in a vacuum tube |
| 01:48.00 | gerrynjr | the screen made funky colors so i stopped |
| 01:48.02 | Pendalar | doh |
| 01:48.05 | Pendalar | =-e hmmm |
| 01:48.27 | Pendalar | maybe some sort of chemical/vapor that would kill them |
| 01:49.41 | gerrynjr | well, right now it's in a baggie |
| 01:51.56 | absentia | more sun |
| 01:52.19 | absentia | living in da fridge... |
| 01:53.20 | gerrynjr | plus.... |
| 01:53.27 | gerrynjr | I don't want the buggfers in my food! |
| 01:53.45 | Pendalar | they are already in your food |
| 01:53.50 | Pendalar | and all in your bed.. |
| 01:53.54 | Pendalar | =-/ |
| 01:54.00 | Pendalar | mites are everywhere, that's life |
| 01:54.09 | gerrynjr | no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 |
| 01:54.13 | gerrynjr | they WILL DIE! |
| 01:54.17 | gerrynjr | i'm sick of them! |
| 01:54.23 | gerrynjr | they crawl on my screen! |
| 01:54.27 | absentia | give'm cannibis |
| 01:54.29 | gerrynjr | I don't want to see them! |
| 01:54.33 | Pendalar | you probably have a few billion on you this second |
| 01:54.40 | gerrynjr | go back home mites! |
| 01:54.41 | absentia | hahah |
| 01:54.46 | Pendalar | it's better to see them and have a chance to kill them |
| 01:54.47 | gerrynjr | go home! |
| 01:54.52 | Pendalar | rather than have to pretend they aren't there |
| 01:54.54 | absentia | wife just squished a crawler... |
| 01:54.55 | gerrynjr | Pendalar> I dont have mites! |
| 01:54.56 | Pendalar | they are home =-x |
| 01:55.08 | Pendalar | heh you keep thinkin that |
| 01:55.35 | gerrynjr | Pendalar> do you have mites? |
| 01:55.44 | Pendalar | we _all_ have mites |
| 01:55.48 | Pendalar | dang it man |
| 01:55.49 | gerrynjr | no! |
| 01:55.59 | gerrynjr | die fucking bastard mites! |
| 01:56.16 | gerrynjr | i'm gonna bomb my room w/ pesticides |
| 01:56.20 | gerrynjr | to kill the bastards |
| 01:56.21 | Pendalar | all mites are bastard as they offically do not have life partners I think |
| 01:56.31 | Pendalar | don't quote me on that |
| 01:57.08 | Pendalar | and after you accept that, ponder mitocondria for a bit |
| 01:58.22 | gerrynjr | mitocondria rock! |
| 01:58.27 | gerrynjr | they power my cells.. |
| 01:58.33 | Pendalar | gerrynjr: I have a blue unmoving pixel, might it be a deceased smurf mite? |
| 01:58.35 | gerrynjr | and can live w/o the cells if the cell die for quite a while |
| 01:58.49 | Pendalar | yes but they have different DNA, altogether a seperate uncontrolled being |
| 01:59.01 | Pendalar | play Parasite Eve, and enjoy |
| 02:00.01 | gerrynjr | they do? |
| 02:00.07 | gerrynjr | how the frick do they get there then? |
| 02:01.42 | Pendalar | hm that is a good question |
| 02:02.37 | gerrynjr | lmao |
| 02:02.49 | gerrynjr | seems to me as if the cells have the code to make them |
| 02:02.56 | gerrynjr | that's the only logical way |
| 02:03.09 | gerrynjr | if the cells divide and make new ones... |
| 02:03.16 | gerrynjr | then the cells have the code to make new entities |
| 02:03.44 | Pendalar | I have to ask my brother in law that, he's a doctor .. not the right field to ask, but good enough |
| 02:03.49 | Pendalar | he's into that sort of thing |
| 02:05.23 | drewp | the mitochondria divide on their own |
| 02:05.42 | Pendalar | yes but how does the first one get in |
| 02:05.47 | drewp | so when the whole cell divides, the mitos just partition |
| 02:05.48 | Pendalar | it's a good question |
| 02:06.10 | drewp | they come from the mother |
| 02:06.24 | drewp | your whole family line has (almost) the same mito dna |
| 02:06.26 | Pendalar | probably so but how did she get them =-x |
| 02:06.36 | drewp | it's turtles all the way down, so to speak |
| 02:06.42 | Pendalar | (and so on til we reach Eve) |
| 02:07.05 | drewp | this is why hair is a poor source of forensic dna evidence, btw: |
| 02:07.05 | Pendalar | how did eve get her's ? ;-) |
| 02:07.44 | drewp | hair doesnt have usable nuclear dna; it has only mitochondrial. so we can at best tie a hair sample to a large group of people |
| 02:07.55 | drewp | (unless it has the root cells at the base, which contain full dna) |
| 02:09.32 | Pendalar | cool |
| 02:09.39 | Pendalar | wish my wife was er.. half smart |
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| 02:09.57 | Pendalar | ask her how eve got her mito's ;-) |
| 02:11.10 | gerrynjr | nice stuff... |
| 02:11.14 | gerrynjr | hmmm |
| 02:11.19 | gerrynjr | but DNA weakens as it ages |
| 02:11.36 | gerrynjr | so.. that means a family lineage would be limited... and they would get lethargic |
| 02:11.55 | Pendalar | in alabama or..? |
| 02:12.17 | gerrynjr | Pendalar> anywhere |
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| 02:13.53 | Pendalar | =-p was a joke |
| 02:14.45 | gerrynjr | Pendalar> I've always been interested in subcellullar stuff |
| 02:14.52 | gerrynjr | but.. i've resorted to computers for the time being |
| 02:15.30 | Pendalar | computers help to understand subcellular/subatomic ideas |
| 02:15.33 | Pendalar | so it's all good |
| 02:15.35 | Pendalar | bbiaf |
| 02:15.40 | absentia | hmmm |
| 02:15.52 | absentia | wonder.. mickey is probably sleeping... |
| 02:16.02 | gerrynjr | so are my mites |
| 02:16.08 | gerrynjr | i've given them sleeping gas! |
| 02:16.10 | gerrynjr | woohoo! |
| 02:25.54 | dhr | gerrynjr: there are lots of kinds of mites. Dust mites are well known cuz their droppings are a major allergen. |
| 02:26.13 | gerrynjr | dhr> these things are white when blasted w/ the lcd's backlight |
| 02:26.16 | dhr | dust mites don't thrive in very low humidity |
| 02:26.25 | gerrynjr | and.. they walk around leaving little white dots |
| 02:26.42 | gerrynjr | is that mite shit? |
| 02:27.05 | dhr | freezing a Z won't hurt the Z. It probably will hurt the artherapod (whatever species it is). |
| 02:27.20 | dhr | Make sure the Z is off before freezing. |
| 02:27.21 | gerrynjr | dhr> it won't? |
| 02:27.31 | gerrynjr | how do I make suire all voltages are discharged? |
| 02:27.47 | gerrynjr | i'll put it in the refridgerator |
| 02:27.49 | dhr | We (in Canada) freeze all sorts of things. |
| 02:27.57 | gerrynjr | damn candians :-D |
| 02:28.02 | gerrynjr | canadians |
| 02:28.12 | gerrynjr | dhr> it won't hurt the LCD? |
| 02:28.16 | W8TVI | take the battery out |
| 02:28.21 | W8TVI | just to be sure |
| 02:28.28 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: nope |
| 02:28.30 | gerrynjr | W8TVI> it's been out for 3 days |
| 02:28.49 | dhr | The thing to watch out for is that when you take it out of the fridge, humidity will condense on it. Try to avoid that. Certainly don't turn it on till the condensation goes. |
| 02:28.51 | W8TVI | I have had an LCD in sub zero weather |
| 02:29.03 | gerrynjr | dhr> ouch |
| 02:29.10 | gerrynjr | dhr> how long will that take? |
| 02:29.39 | W8TVI | I'd take the z out of the freezer and put it in the fridge to "thaw" |
| 02:29.45 | dhr | depends on various things. I imagine that 30 minutes is safe. |
| 02:29.47 | W8TVI | slowly |
| 02:29.52 | gerrynjr | i was just going to put it in the refridgerator |
| 02:30.02 | absentia | 24hrs |
| 02:30.04 | dhr | No need to thaw it slowly -- nothing is freezing / melting in this cycle. |
| 02:30.09 | absentia | is gov spec |
| 02:30.20 | absentia | take it out of box, let it adjust... etc |
| 02:30.22 | gerrynjr | absentia> gov. spec? |
| 02:30.25 | dhr | There is a difference between a big object and a little one. |
| 02:30.57 | absentia | ya, like a metal roof has to be able to support the weight of 3ft of snow when the temp is 90 degrees |
| 02:30.59 | absentia | etc |
| 02:31.01 | dhr | Besides, condensation isn't a really big problem unless you have high humidity. |
| 02:31.08 | absentia | right |
| 02:31.16 | absentia | in nm, i never worried |
| 02:31.35 | absentia | <10 percent humidity there... |
| 02:31.49 | dhr | Freezing is bad for most bugs. Cooling to fridge temp is usually surviveable. |
| 02:32.03 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: put it in a ziplock bag |
| 02:32.06 | dhr | We have a lot fewer bugs here because we have a real winter. |
| 02:32.11 | gerrynjr | dhr> but.. it's a 'liquid' crystal display |
| 02:32.21 | gerrynjr | liquid will freeze, no? |
| 02:32.33 | W8TVI | its not liquid |
| 02:32.40 | dhr | LC is not a problem. Otherwise, they would not sell LC displays in this country :-) |
| 02:32.53 | W8TVI | its just not a solid crystal |
| 02:32.57 | dhr | But running these things below 0 might not work. |
| 02:33.07 | treke|home | everything will freeze eventually :p |
| 02:33.29 | W8TVI | 0 Kelvin |
| 02:33.32 | dhr | (Sorry, we use Celsisus. By 0, I meant 0C.) |
| 02:33.35 | gerrynjr | WTF... |
| 02:33.38 | gerrynjr | i'll try it |
| 02:33.38 | absentia | hey treke.... |
| 02:33.48 | absentia | got progress on my pyqt stuff. |
| 02:33.55 | absentia | but still not 100% |
| 02:34.02 | dhr | 0 Kelvin does wonderful things. Semicondutors? What are they :-) |
| 02:34.07 | gerrynjr | dhr> i'm gonna try that :-D |
| 02:34.11 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: toss it in a zipper bag and put it in the freezer overnight |
| 02:34.19 | gerrynjr | overnight? |
| 02:34.23 | gerrynjr | OVER NIGHT? |
| 02:34.31 | gerrynjr | dhr> how long do you reccomend? |
| 02:34.33 | W8TVI | then in the morning, pull it out and leave it for about an hour |
| 02:34.38 | dhr | Yeah: bag it. Otherwise the frost in the freezer will damage it. |
| 02:34.50 | dhr | I'd guess that overnight is a good amount of time. |
| 02:34.59 | gerrynjr | I sure hope this works.. |
| 02:35.00 | dhr | convenient and effective. |
| 02:35.11 | gerrynjr | heck if it doesn't.. I won the thing.. so at least I won't be losing too much money |
| 02:35.24 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: I have left a 2 way radio in my car overnight with its LiIon battery in it |
| 02:35.32 | W8TVI | and it has an LCD |
| 02:35.33 | gerrynjr | dhr> hmm what about the eggs? |
| 02:35.34 | dhr | But getting the smudge out of the display might not be easy. |
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| 02:35.38 | gerrynjr | that are stuck in the screen? |
| 02:35.46 | gerrynjr | will they fall off into the bottom? |
| 02:36.12 | gerrynjr | dhr> smudge? |
| 02:36.29 | dhr | I'm not an enimologist. But I'd guess those eggs are stuck down and will remain there until dislodged mechanically. |
| 02:36.41 | gerrynjr | dhr> damn |
| 02:36.45 | dhr | smudge == the squished one you showed last night |
| 02:36.56 | gerrynjr | dhr> they ate that up |
| 02:37.10 | gerrynjr | yummie, dead mite |
| 02:37.25 | dhr | Dead eggs are no problem unless (1) they conduct inconveniently (dubious), or (2) are visible on screen |
| 02:37.38 | gerrynjr | they are visable.. |
| 02:37.43 | gerrynjr | they look like dead pixels... |
| 02:37.49 | gerrynjr | that are in the full on (white) position |
| 02:38.01 | dhr | Squishing them probably makes them worse |
| 02:38.14 | gerrynjr | I didnt squish those! |
| 02:38.17 | dhr | Squishing will make them bigger and stickier. |
| 02:38.32 | dhr | Can you get at them to clean them out? |
| 02:38.44 | gerrynjr | not according to kergoth`bbl, or W8TVI |
| 02:38.58 | dhr | They might be droppings or eggs. I wouldn't know. |
| 02:38.58 | gerrynjr | supposedly, those two panels are stuck togather along the edges |
| 02:39.07 | W8TVI | the LCD is sealed |
| 02:39.14 | W8TVI | mostly |
| 02:39.17 | gerrynjr | well... it's going int the freezer now |
| 02:39.21 | gerrynjr | wish me luck guys |
| 02:39.23 | dhr | If the bug got there, there's a bug in the design :-) |
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| 02:40.11 | absentia | clear |
| 02:41.17 | gerrynjr | my mother: Don't do it.. |
| 02:41.21 | dhr | why do you think they are "mites" as opposed to artheropods? |
| 02:41.23 | gerrynjr | glass cracks in the freezer! |
| 02:41.39 | ChipX86 | dhr: because "mites" is easier to say |
| 02:42.01 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: why dont your car windows crack in the winter? |
| 02:42.13 | gerrynjr | W8TVI> thats tempered glass |
| 02:43.17 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: the screen will crack if someone tosses something on the zaurus, if you dont have the screen cover on it :) |
| 02:43.18 | dhr | glass can be stressed by sharp temperature changes. But consumer goods don't break in Canada just cuz we step out the door with them. |
| 02:43.25 | gerrynjr | well, i'm sticking w/ the canadian |
| 02:44.45 | gerrynjr | its in! |
| 02:44.52 | gerrynjr | but.. |
| 02:44.57 | dhr | Things get weird at *really* low terrestrial temperatures. Like -40 (C or F) |
| 02:45.00 | gerrynjr | the condensation in the baggie will freeze over! |
| 02:45.39 | dhr | normally you try to empty most air out of bag first. That has lots of advantages. |
| 02:45.48 | gerrynjr | I did |
| 02:45.51 | dhr | - smaller |
| 02:45.56 | dhr | - less moisture |
| 02:45.59 | gerrynjr | I emptied most of the air |
| 02:46.06 | dhr | - sits better in freezer |
| 02:46.37 | gerrynjr | now, will these buggers die? |
| 02:46.40 | gerrynjr | or walk out of the pDA? |
| 02:46.51 | dhr | They probably won't walk out. |
| 02:47.17 | dhr | They probably will die. Not a sure thing -- depends on the species. Which you have not revealed to us. |
| 02:47.29 | gerrynjr | all I know is that they are white |
| 02:47.53 | gerrynjr | from my research... they are dust mites |
| 02:48.27 | dhr | dust mites are usually too small to see, I think. |
| 02:49.05 | dhr | how many legs? |
| 02:49.40 | dhr | insects have 6, but dust mites are not insects (if I remember correctly). |
| 02:49.50 | gerrynjr | well.. I had to look really close |
| 02:49.53 | gerrynjr | RELLY |
| 02:49.55 | gerrynjr | REALLY |
| 02:50.05 | gerrynjr | it was only due to the backlight that I could see them |
| 02:50.09 | gerrynjr | I think it had 8 legs... |
| 02:50.34 | treke|home | That would make sense. i think mites are arachnids |
| 02:50.39 | dhr | dust mites are everywhere in normal homes. Unless humidity is low (20% or less?) |
| 02:50.52 | gerrynjr | dhr> I want it out of my screen though |
| 02:51.16 | dhr | understood. |
| 02:51.50 | gerrynjr | dhr> I read on some online pesticide forum |
| 02:51.59 | gerrynjr | that some guy had white dots on the back of his TV.... |
| 02:52.09 | gerrynjr | the exterminator said they were dust mites... |
| 02:52.13 | gerrynjr | sure sounds like what I have |
| 02:53.37 | dhr | http://www.sport.scotsman.com/rugby.cfm?id=1281352003 |
| 02:57.15 | gerrynjr | the dustmites? |
| 02:57.17 | gerrynjr | WTH? |
| 03:00.07 | gerrynjr | good thing I did... |
| 03:00.12 | gerrynjr | too much humidity in the bag |
| 03:01.02 | dhr | a little condensation isn't serious. Big drops create shorts. Little ones don't. |
| 03:01.10 | gerrynjr | they were big! |
| 03:01.37 | dhr | and shorts only matter when the thing is on. |
| 03:01.56 | dhr | Still: why were they big? |
| 03:02.03 | gerrynjr | dunno |
| 03:02.10 | gerrynjr | must have been _alot_ of condensation |
| 03:02.20 | dhr | What is your humidity there (relative, and temperature) |
| 03:02.42 | gerrynjr | my humidity sensor on my tiniboard is broken |
| 03:04.29 | dhr | http://www.uq.edu.au/entomology/mite/dust.html shows mite body as about .25mm long. hard to see, but not invisible, I'd guess. |
| 03:05.35 | gerrynjr | it was about a pixel-2 pixels in size |
| 03:05.56 | dhr | http://www.uq.edu.au/entomology/mite/mitetxt.html shows lots of mites. mostly colourful. |
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| 03:06.46 | gerrynjr | oh crud... the eggs/shit are gone |
| 03:06.49 | gerrynjr | odd |
| 03:07.54 | gerrynjr | could my mite-like friend have gone as well? |
| 03:08.45 | dhr | screen is about 55mm == 240 pixels across. So each pixel is .23mm. So the pictured mite would be about 1 whole pixel across. |
| 03:09.04 | gerrynjr | hmmm |
| 03:09.10 | gerrynjr | was a bit larger than 1 pixel |
| 03:09.23 | dhr | but there are lots of kinds of mites. |
| 03:09.47 | gerrynjr | well, here's hoping for the best! |
| 03:10.48 | dhr | the amount of time you had it in freezer *might* be enough to kill them off. I'd suspect not. |
| 03:11.04 | gerrynjr | well.. the eggs/shit _are_ gone |
| 03:11.09 | dhr | but if it was going to crack, you probably gabe it enough time :-) |
| 03:11.16 | dhr | s/gabe/gave/ |
| 03:11.44 | gerrynjr | well.. I didn't want to _freeze_ it |
| 03:12.00 | dhr | "freeze" what? |
| 03:12.04 | gerrynjr | the Z |
| 03:12.09 | gerrynjr | the screen may have cracked |
| 03:12.22 | gerrynjr | or.. are you talking about the mite? |
| 03:13.02 | dhr | the Z is not water, so it won't technically freeze at -10C (or whatever your freezer is set to). Dust mights are mostly water |
| 03:13.14 | dhr | so they might freeze in the freezer -- you hope so. |
| 03:13.47 | gerrynjr | there was a frost coating on the bag |
| 03:13.48 | dhr | plastic get more brittle when cold. Not a good idea to chill and then drop Z |
| 03:14.35 | dhr | I presume that you mean "in the bag" since frost on the outside is of no concern |
| 03:14.53 | gerrynjr | yes, in the bag |
| 03:14.55 | gerrynjr | that |
| 03:15.01 | gerrynjr | s why I took it out |
| 03:15.15 | gerrynjr | must be pretty humid here, eh? |
| 03:15.39 | dhr | relative humidity goes up a lot when the air is cooled. |
| 03:15.52 | dhr | The interesting number is the dew point. |
| 03:16.13 | dhr | by now? Surely. |
| 03:16.22 | dhr | well: |
| 03:16.29 | gerrynjr | here goes everything |
| 03:16.32 | dhr | depends what you've been doing to it. |
| 03:16.43 | dhr | does it feel room temperature? |
| 03:16.44 | gerrynjr | ?? |
| 03:16.49 | gerrynjr | it close to room temp |
| 03:16.55 | gerrynjr | i've been holding it in my hands |
| 03:17.00 | dhr | Does it feel damp? |
| 03:17.10 | gerrynjr | a little |
| 03:17.12 | gerrynjr | not much |
| 03:17.13 | gerrynjr | but a bit |
| 03:17.24 | dhr | wait until it feels dry |
| 03:17.36 | dhr | remember: what matters is that it is dry inside. |
| 03:17.41 | gerrynjr | that's gonna take a while... |
| 03:18.06 | gerrynjr | well, if it matters: the stylus wasa quite a bit damp |
| 03:18.17 | dhr | you took it out 20 minutes ago. |
| 03:18.26 | dhr | You must have quite some humidity. |
| 03:19.03 | dhr | where are you? |
| 03:20.05 | gerrynjr | swansea, MA, USA |
| 03:20.21 | gerrynjr | Barometer: 29.95 inches and steady |
| 03:20.36 | dhr | outside temp: 50F? |
| 03:20.43 | dhr | pure guess |
| 03:20.59 | gerrynjr | Currently: 44?F |
| 03:21.28 | dhr | So the (absolute) humidity outside ought to be quite low. |
| 03:22.11 | gerrynjr | it feels a bit drier now |
| 03:22.29 | gerrynjr | wtf, i'm gonna try i |
| 03:22.31 | gerrynjr | t |
| 03:23.06 | dhr | theory: take Z and bag outside. Make sure Z and bag have outside air in them. Seal Z in bag with minimum air. Freeze. Minimal condensation. |
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| 03:25.56 | gerrynjr | wtf... looks like he's gone |
| 03:25.59 | gerrynjr | i'll just deal w/ it |
| 03:26.01 | gerrynjr | :-D |
| 03:26.47 | gerrynjr | fuck |
| 03:26.50 | gerrynjr | on second look |
| 03:26.54 | gerrynjr | the eggs are still there |
| 03:26.59 | omin0us | haha, i get my c760 next week :) |
| 03:27.20 | gerrynjr | what color does dust on the Z glow w/ the backlight? |
| 03:29.38 | omin0us | little white specs |
| 03:29.53 | gerrynjr | maybe then.. |
| 03:29.57 | gerrynjr | I only had one mite |
| 03:30.05 | gerrynjr | and these white specs really are just dist |
| 03:30.13 | omin0us | mine has this weird smudge on the back of the screen thing |
| 03:30.16 | omin0us | yeah |
| 03:30.32 | omin0us | you can tell cause they are different sizes and kind of float above the screen |
| 03:30.43 | gerrynjr | yeah.. but so did this mite |
| 03:30.47 | gerrynjr | it walked around the screen ;-D |
| 03:30.52 | omin0us | haha |
| 03:31.12 | omin0us | I used to have a game gear that had this dead ant trapped under the screen |
| 03:31.19 | gerrynjr | lmao |
| 03:31.21 | omin0us | it was so anoying and i dont' know how it got in there |
| 03:51.10 | gerrynjr | dhr> look slike the little critter is gone |
| 03:51.15 | gerrynjr | as for dust.. that's a diff story |
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| 04:04.53 | gerrynjr | kergoth> mites have (as far as I can tell) been expelled! |
| 04:05.00 | gerrynjr | I cast the demon out of Z! |
| 04:05.16 | kergoth | nice |
| 04:08.45 | gerrynjr | dhr> thanks! |
| 04:08.49 | gerrynjr | afte the freezing... |
| 04:08.55 | gerrynjr | I caught it waling on my desk! |
| 04:09.01 | gerrynjr | I just squished that bitch! |
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| 04:12.11 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: lol |
| 04:12.17 | W8TVI | you debuged it! |
| 04:14.06 | gerrynjr | somehow though.. I feel it won't be that easy |
| 04:15.18 | gerrynjr | teeheee |
| 04:15.23 | gerrynjr | i'm giddy as a schoolgirl! |
| 04:15.30 | gerrynjr | bruhahaha |
| 04:15.33 | gerrynjr | DIE BITCH! |
| 04:16.17 | gerrynjr | chouimat> it's dead! |
| 04:16.19 | gerrynjr | WOOHOO! |
| 04:16.44 | gerrynjr | ding dong the mite is dead, the mite is dead the mite is dead, ding dong the freaking mite is dead! |
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| 04:28.38 | Bryan_W | wow |
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| 04:36.54 | chouimat | night |
| 04:37.18 | r1ch | Hey- what's the name of the combination serial and local terminal package? |
| 04:37.25 | kergoth | opie-console |
| 04:38.07 | r1ch | Thanks, kergoth |
| 04:38.14 | kergoth | np |
| 04:39.26 | r1ch | Does itmrun in the sharp rom? |
| 04:39.51 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:39.57 | kergoth | sharp contracted some opie folks to write it in fact. |
| 04:40.24 | r1ch | Cool. |
| 04:40.51 | kergoth | heh, wonder if theres a decent X terminal emulator ala opie-console/minicom |
| 04:41.07 | Pendalar | sharp might as well contract a lot more out |
| 04:41.16 | kergoth | yeah, like all of it |
| 04:41.24 | Pendalar | =-) |
| 04:41.48 | mithro | itmrun? |
| 04:43.25 | r1ch | itmrun is how we say it in South Park, mmmmkay? |
| 04:51.37 | r1ch | This seems odd... opie keeps telling me "something went wrong" duing the installation of opie-console. Some way I can see what happened? |
| 04:52.03 | kergoth | eh? opie doesnt say something went wrong, sharp's installer does |
| 04:52.13 | r1ch | kergoth: Right. |
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| 04:52.20 | kergoth | and no, there's no way to tell easily |
| 04:52.24 | r1ch | Goody. |
| 04:52.24 | kergoth | cause sharp blows |
| 04:52.27 | kergoth | try installing it from the cmdline |
| 04:52.30 | r1ch | Roger that. |
| 04:53.06 | r1ch | So far, I've been unable to get the hancom apps and Opera working under OZ. I really like them. |
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| 04:57.40 | mithro | i've gotten the latest Opera working |
| 04:57.50 | mithro | and an older version of hancom apps |
| 04:57.57 | r1ch | How'd you do that with Opera? |
| 04:58.15 | r1ch | I just dl'd the 1.4x version of the hancom apps. |
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| 04:59.02 | W8TVI | r1ch: |
| 04:59.08 | W8TVI | ibot hancom |
| 04:59.10 | | try http://mobile.hancom.com/download/product_num_reg.html or http://www.zaurus.com/dev/hancom/files/Sl-5000d.zip |
| 04:59.58 | mithro | r1ch: i'm using a c700 with my oz-compat packages |
| 05:00.16 | r1ch | Ah. I have a 5500 |
| 05:08.16 | Luke-Jr | offroadgeek: ping |
| 05:13.21 | offroadgeek | pong |
| 05:13.26 | offroadgeek | sup |
| 05:13.39 | Luke-Jr | offroadgeek: still need the C760 drivers? |
| 05:13.57 | offroadgeek | Luke-Jr: drivers for what? |
| 05:14.04 | Luke-Jr | C760 |
| 05:14.45 | offroadgeek | sorry... I'm not following... drivers for what on the 760? |
| 05:14.54 | Luke-Jr | usbnet drivers for windoze |
| 05:15.14 | offroadgeek | ahh... |
| 05:15.22 | offroadgeek | really old topic... I got them thanks |
| 05:15.30 | Luke-Jr | heh |
| 05:15.42 | offroadgeek | I just happened to be at work and didn't have the CD... I got them that night |
| 05:15.46 | offroadgeek | heh |
| 05:15.56 | Luke-Jr | ah... thought u could have meant home as in prior to moving away or something |
| 05:19.36 | offroadgeek | how many of you are awake tonight? |
| 05:19.52 | Luke-Jr | 3.14159265358979 |
| 05:19.52 | W8TVI | zzzz |
| 05:20.30 | offroadgeek | just seeing if I should do the online drawing tonight or tomorrow |
| 05:20.53 | Luke-Jr | tonight =D |
| 05:20.57 | Luke-Jr | what online drawing? =p |
| 05:21.02 | offroadgeek | I need witnesses... and if W8TVI is sleeping.. then I guess it's up to you Luke-Jr |
| 05:21.12 | W8TVI | lol |
| 05:21.31 | Luke-Jr | also means I'm the only person who can enter, right? =p |
| 05:22.23 | offroadgeek | nope.. this is the drawing to give away the last prizes in the ZUG documentation contest |
| 05:22.24 | Pendalar | tonight heh |
| 05:22.37 | Luke-Jr | =p |
| 05:22.39 | Luke-Jr | what prizes? |
| 05:22.44 | Pendalar | oh n/m.. I haven't helped out there |
| 05:22.44 | Luke-Jr | I thought that ended already |
| 05:24.08 | offroadgeek | yup... the contest ended and I gave away three Zs... |
| 05:24.27 | Luke-Jr | one with a mite |
| 05:24.40 | offroadgeek | lol |
| 05:25.06 | Luke-Jr | =p |
| 05:25.13 | Luke-Jr | gerry killed the poor thing =p |
| 05:25.16 | offroadgeek | the drawings for a 5500 and a second drawing for an ambicom 56k cf modem |
| 05:25.30 | offroadgeek | maybe I'll freeze the 5500 I have |
| 05:25.35 | Luke-Jr | LOL |
| 05:26.07 | Luke-Jr | "what did they do to it? it's freezing cold!" |
| 05:26.48 | W8TVI | offroadgeek, gerry said it came out of his and he squished the thing |
| 05:26.59 | offroadgeek | no way... |
| 05:27.14 | W8TVI | after pulling it out of the freezer |
| 05:27.15 | offroadgeek | I think he may be a *little* over dramatic sometimes |
| 05:27.26 | W8TVI | a little? |
| 05:27.42 | offroadgeek | :) |
| 05:28.19 | Pendalar | I thought it was pretty funny |
| 05:28.35 | Pendalar | I kept picturing some japanimation thing with a guy and a bug in his PDA |
| 05:28.43 | Pendalar | and he's sitting there smacking the PDA around.. |
| 05:28.49 | offroadgeek | I did too.. until he kept instant messaging me on the ZUG... not like there's anything I can do |
| 05:28.52 | Pendalar | with ! everywhere in the air |
| 05:29.16 | Luke-Jr | offroadgeek: you could ship him that 5500 you got =p |
| 05:29.34 | offroadgeek | why? |
| 05:29.44 | offroadgeek | I'm just going to plant mites in this one ;) |
| 05:29.45 | Luke-Jr | well, I'm assuming it doesn't have a mite too... |
| 05:30.00 | Luke-Jr | and even if it does |
| 05:30.04 | Pendalar | I tried to tell him dust mites are *everywhere* |
| 05:30.05 | offroadgeek | he asked me where I stored it... |
| 05:30.07 | Luke-Jr | it has the pixels working his other doesn't |
| 05:30.09 | Pendalar | and I think he freaked out a bit |
| 05:30.15 | Luke-Jr | so both together would have a full display |
| 05:30.19 | offroadgeek | I said under my dogs bed |
| 05:30.24 | Luke-Jr | LOL |
| 05:30.53 | W8TVI | offroadgeek, just send me the 5500 :) |
| 05:30.57 | Luke-Jr | I'll take it! =p |
| 05:31.00 | Luke-Jr | o.o |
| 05:31.23 | offroadgeek | um yeah... are either of you on the list? |
| 05:31.28 | Luke-Jr | offroadgeek: how about you buy everyone in the channel a C870? =p |
| 05:31.32 | Luke-Jr | list? what list? =p |
| 05:32.11 | offroadgeek | http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=79&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 05:32.11 | W8TVI | offroadgeek: I'll trade you this 5000D for that 5500 :) |
| 05:32.25 | offroadgeek | W8TVI: OK! |
| 05:32.32 | Luke-Jr | offroadgeek: you mean we have to *do something* for it? =p |
| 05:32.52 | Luke-Jr | offroadgeek: W8TVI is on the lsit... |
| 05:33.12 | offroadgeek | as much as I'd like to give away zaurii to all the lazy bastards of the world :) ... I just can't afford that! |
| 05:33.26 | Luke-Jr | offroadgeek: how do you afford the contest at all? =p |
| 05:33.35 | offroadgeek | W8TVI is on the list of winners in the top 3... not in the drawing list |
| 05:34.07 | Luke-Jr | o well |
| 05:34.10 | Luke-Jr | why is 5000d > 5500? |
| 05:34.12 | W8TVI | and he made the 5000d be 3rd place prize and a 5500 in the drawing |
| 05:34.22 | W8TVI | :( |
| 05:34.53 | offroadgeek | :( |
| 05:35.02 | Luke-Jr | offroadgeek: why is 5000D better than 5500? |
| 05:35.15 | W8TVI | Luke-Jr, its not |
| 05:35.16 | offroadgeek | it's not |
| 05:35.23 | Luke-Jr | ... that doesn't make much sense... |
| 05:35.59 | Luke-Jr | why would it be a higher prize? @.@ |
| 05:36.25 | offroadgeek | the fourth prize happened to be a codewarrior license... that fell thru so I bought the 5500 so that I could still have the drawing |
| 05:36.42 | Luke-Jr | codewarrior? @.@ |
| 05:37.35 | Luke-Jr | (yes, yes, I know... GIMF...) |
| 05:37.38 | offroadgeek | no matter how I did the prizes.. not everyone would be happy... |
| 05:37.43 | W8TVI | offroadgeek, so why didn't you just make the 5000d 4th? |
| 05:37.56 | Pendalar | offroadgeek: are you making your money back some how? |
| 05:38.53 | offroadgeek | W8TVI: it's just the way it is... why can't people be happy with simply receiving a free zaurus.. no matter what model??? |
| 05:39.26 | Pendalar | I'd take any model free |
| 05:39.37 | Pendalar | even if it's lower than what I've got, simply to test stuff on |
| 05:39.44 | W8TVI | offroadgeek, because we want to complain! :P |
| 05:39.48 | offroadgeek | Pendalar: no, it was never my intention to make money on it... just increase intrest in the ZUG and build a great doc repository |
| 05:39.48 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: LOL |
| 05:40.12 | Pendalar | if you try to become a developer, having a large collection of devices to test on is always a good thing |
| 05:40.26 | Pendalar | offroadgeek: I didn't mean make money.. I mean what are you doing to not LOSE money? |
| 05:40.31 | Luke-Jr | Pendalar: writing an emulator would be cheaper |
| 05:40.40 | Pendalar | emulator isn't a very accurate test |
| 05:40.50 | Pendalar | when it comes down to hardware stuff, like apmd |
| 05:41.05 | offroadgeek | Pendalar: ahh.. nothing... I don't see it as losing money... just donating to a good cause |
| 05:41.39 | Pendalar | I guess if you got money to blow it'd be fine |
| 05:41.52 | Pendalar | most of us can't go out and buy a sl5500 just to donate for some pretty writing |
| 05:42.05 | Pendalar | but nice of you to do so |
| 05:42.43 | offroadgeek | Pendalar: thanks... just doing what I can to contribute to the community... since I'm not a great developer... |
| 05:43.15 | Pendalar | I had the same thoughts initially, but I'm still trying like hell to become a good dev |
| 05:43.26 | Pendalar | if nothing else I'm trying to host some people and what not |
| 05:43.41 | Pendalar | and eventually do a zaurus feed of everything known to man *sigh* |
| 05:43.55 | Pendalar | I have too many projects going to be useful in any of tehm |
| 05:43.56 | Pendalar | them |
| 05:44.34 | offroadgeek | a zaurus feed? |
| 05:44.55 | Pendalar | ipkg repository.. thing.. |
| 05:44.58 | Pendalar | heh =-) |
| 05:45.07 | offroadgeek | I'm interested! |
| 05:45.11 | Pendalar | night guys, got to get up and do a thanksgiving thing tomorrow |
| 05:45.19 | Pendalar | cool I'll talk to you about it tomorrow maybe |
| 05:45.20 | offroadgeek | I emailed the owner of the ZSI... but he wasn't interested in partnering up |
| 05:45.27 | Luke-Jr | ZSI? |
| 05:45.31 | offroadgeek | cool.. night |
| 05:46.00 | offroadgeek | yeah... I want all the ipk files hosted on a single server... that way people don't have to deal with broken links |
| 05:46.13 | Luke-Jr | o.o |
| 05:46.26 | Luke-Jr | can't a single server link to others? |
| 05:46.39 | offroadgeek | now that I have a dedicated server for the ZUG.. I have plenty of space and bandwidth... |
| 05:46.53 | Luke-Jr | O.O |
| 05:46.56 | offroadgeek | it could host all ROMs, all ipks, everything |
| 05:47.20 | offroadgeek | sorry.. can't do personal hosting |
| 05:47.57 | Luke-Jr | hehe |
| 05:48.03 | Luke-Jr | I meant locally anyway =p |
| 05:48.15 | offroadgeek | wouldn't it be great to have a true file repository, not just a link to files on other servers? |
| 05:48.22 | Luke-Jr | I couldn't care less if other ppl download most of my stuff |
| 05:48.58 | W8TVI | if the 2600 group that hosts my website for free wouldnt compliane, I'd be tempted to do it :) |
| 05:49.18 | W8TVI | I get very little trafic to my site... |
| 05:49.26 | offroadgeek | what is your site? |
| 05:49.30 | W8TVI | about 30 users a month |
| 05:49.36 | W8TVI | www.w8tvi.tk |
| 05:49.56 | W8TVI | and not hte tk one |
| 05:50.20 | offroadgeek | what does .tk stand for? |
| 05:50.25 | Luke-Jr | offroadgeek: some country |
| 05:50.34 | W8TVI | dot.tk will tell the story |
| 05:50.37 | kergoth | OZ's a pretty good file repository.. every decent app we find we add to our buildsystem and therefore to our feeds |
| 05:50.41 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:51.12 | Luke-Jr | o.o |
| 05:51.19 | W8TVI | kergoth, I think they are thinking about a place to keep ipks so they dont get lost forever |
| 05:51.25 | Luke-Jr | kergoth: so you'd know of any decent IMAP client? =p |
| 05:51.46 | kergoth | Luke-Jr: there arent any. |
| 05:51.51 | Luke-Jr | ah |
| 05:51.52 | Luke-Jr | thought so |
| 05:51.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:52.08 | Luke-Jr | too bad KMail is too mixed in with KDE :/ |
| 05:52.55 | Luke-Jr | otherwise Kontact would be perfect for Z's PIM stuff |
| 05:53.48 | offroadgeek | kergoth: have you seen the x11 rom yet? |
| 05:54.25 | kergoth | "the x11 rom"? |
| 05:55.38 | W8TVI | I need to upload the pictures I took of my magnia |
| 05:56.12 | offroadgeek | sash's new x11 rom for the c7x0... |
| 05:57.13 | kergoth | ah |
| 05:57.19 | kergoth | havent looked at that |
| 05:58.08 | offroadgeek | I tried it for a short while... very nice... just no apps for it yet... and no pims |
| 05:58.25 | offroadgeek | I'm patiently waiting for OZ on the 760 |
| 05:58.29 | kergoth | ? |
| 05:58.31 | kergoth | install gpe. |
| 05:59.08 | offroadgeek | suppose I could |
| 06:00.08 | offroadgeek | I have a 1gb card... it's nice to have so much space on the z |
| 06:00.48 | Luke-Jr | SD can be used to flash C760, right? |
| 06:01.39 | kergoth | yes |
| 06:01.46 | Luke-Jr | kergoth: does OZ support having a flashcard as root filesystem after boot? |
| 06:02.24 | offroadgeek | I've heard that some people have had troubles flashing with the SD... but with cf less troubles... |
| 06:02.29 | kergoth | Luke-Jr: for what? |
| 06:02.35 | offroadgeek | I personally haven't tried it with an SD card |
| 06:02.44 | Luke-Jr | kergoth: root pivot to a flash card once the system has booted? |
| 06:02.52 | kergoth | did i ask how? |
| 06:02.54 | kergoth | no, i didnt. |
| 06:03.07 | Luke-Jr | for simply having the larger storage in /? |
| 06:03.10 | kergoth | i know how changing roots works |
| 06:03.19 | kergoth | quite a few users move /usr and /opt onto the sd card |
| 06:03.34 | kergoth | others just install all apps there and let ipkg-link/aqpkg link them back |
| 06:03.37 | kergoth | which is what i do |
| 06:03.53 | kergoth | it doenst have any scripts in place for pivot'ing there, but there are faqs on openzaurus.org on doing so |
| 06:04.03 | kergoth | so there are plenty of ways to accomplish what you want. |
| 06:04.08 | Luke-Jr | cool |
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| 06:12.17 | offroadgeek | kergoth: fyi.. the 'I feel lucky' link on the site doens't work correctly |
| 06:12.55 | kergoth | offroadgeek: can you email the webmaster? |
| 06:13.58 | offroadgeek | sure |
| 06:14.11 | kergoth | thanks |
| 06:15.52 | Luke-Jr | rmmod -f |
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| 06:46.19 | krezel | Anybody around? |
| 06:46.53 | kergoth | yep |
| 06:48.07 | krezel | Hey kergoth... If you try and re-flash your Z and it refuses to accept the initrd and zImage (battery light never turns orange when you try and flash it), that hopefully doesn't mean your Z is fried, right? |
| 06:48.37 | W8TVI | krezel, does the mail light come on? |
| 06:48.41 | krezel | yes |
| 06:48.46 | krezel | mail light is green, battery light is off |
| 06:50.03 | krezel | hmm md5sums match |
| 06:50.38 | W8TVI | I've flashed mine with out having it pluged in |
| 06:50.41 | W8TVI | to power |
| 06:50.55 | krezel | I've done that too, but I don't think thats the problem this time. I've got it plugged in |
| 06:51.01 | offroadgeek | same here.. |
| 06:51.34 | krezel | let me try this one more time |
| 06:52.50 | krezel | damnit |
| 06:53.13 | krezel | i think my Z is mad at me because I tried to put GPE on it. |
| 06:55.45 | offroadgeek | I've found that I can always get back to the OZ or tkcrom after trying others |
| 06:56.15 | krezel | is tkcrom any good? |
| 06:56.55 | W8TVI | oz is the best |
| 06:57.39 | offroadgeek | I like them both... they have different advantages and disadvantages |
| 06:57.53 | krezel | tkcrom is based off the sharp rom, right? |
| 06:58.20 | offroadgeek | yes |
| 06:58.26 | krezel | bleh |
| 06:58.40 | offroadgeek | tkcrom is a much cleaner, much improved version of the sharp rom... |
| 06:59.13 | krezel | ah ok |
| 06:59.39 | krezel | hmm.. i think I scared my Z into working. |
| 06:59.47 | offroadgeek | I suggest that you try both, and come to your own conclusions... to each their own, right? |
| 07:00.17 | krezel | I'm actually kind of interested in seeing if I can get GPE running... |
| 07:00.48 | offroadgeek | others have done it... so you should be able to' |
| 07:01.12 | offroadgeek | time to run... been a long week at work and I'm tired! |
| 07:01.36 | krezel | I found a kindof-howto on how to do it with some roms I could flash, but they didn't have a working driver for the socket card. so now I'll have to see if I can force it on. |
| 07:01.54 | krezel | later |
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| 13:33.40 | George- | I just got my third apple product :D |
| 13:33.47 | absentia | ipod? |
| 13:35.51 | George- | yeh |
| 13:35.51 | George- | 30GB |
| 13:35.59 | absentia | nice |
| 13:36.20 | George- | my apple collection is expanding |
| 13:36.26 | George- | 2 powerbooks and an iPod so far |
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| 13:48.19 | absentia | whoa |
| 13:48.22 | absentia | a few updates at killefiz |
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| 16:53.19 | chouimat | hi |
| 16:55.59 | absentia | hi |
| 17:02.38 | gerrynjr|zaurus | hey |
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| 17:35.54 | zack | hi all |
| 17:35.55 | zack | ! |
| 17:54.56 | zack | I just killed the default wm for Sharp ROM.. Any ideas to fix it? |
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| 17:58.38 | absentia | no more mites? |
| 17:58.43 | absentia | cold got rid of'm ? |
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| 18:52.41 | absentia | hey xav |
| 18:52.56 | XavierXeon | hi |
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| 19:30.02 | absentia | what's up? |
| 19:36.37 | George- | I need a Zaurus SL-6000 to complete my nifty collection of computer stuff |
| 19:36.51 | George- | my SL-5000D is looking rather dated. |
| 19:41.56 | XavierXeon | George-: get yourself one of the clamshell devices |
| 19:42.06 | George- | XavierXeon: not a big fan of them |
| 19:42.11 | George- | now that the 6000 has a VGA screen. |
| 19:42.11 | absentia | ya, I prefer the 7x0 form factor |
| 19:42.17 | absentia | xav: doing any pyqt lately ? |
| 19:43.14 | XavierXeon | no. searching for bugs in opie |
| 19:43.21 | absentia | ah |
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| 19:46.01 | absentia | I couldn't work ... on 320x200 |
| 19:54.03 | absentia | what's the difference between zaurus.com and myzaurus.com ? |
| 19:54.11 | absentia | zaurus.com has /dev/board -- is there anything else? |
| 19:54.18 | absentia | I can't seem to find much on the myzaurus.com |
| 19:54.28 | absentia | I found a feed at doc or docs.zaurus.com (from memory) |
| 19:58.23 | absentia | what about community.zaurus.com ? |
| 19:58.31 | absentia | why so many different sites? |
| 20:02.23 | George- | <-- PilotX has quit ("George is the ultimate geek - he has no dress sense and should be banned from MacNN :-)") |
| 20:02.25 | George- | :D |
| 20:02.31 | absentia | oz 3.3.5 rc 1 ? |
| 20:05.51 | George- | wow |
| 20:05.58 | absentia | ? |
| 20:06.03 | George- | mickeyl fixed the suspend/resume bug I had with 2.4.18? |
| 20:09.55 | absentia | http://community.zaurus.com/snippet/ |
| 20:09.59 | absentia | look at those awesome totals! |
| 20:10.45 | George- | HAHAHA |
| 20:10.46 | George- | :D |
| 20:10.59 | George- | no longer the yougest at 17, George now owns the title, and damn, that kid is very Intelligent |
| 20:11.00 | George- | rofl |
| 20:11.09 | George- | that's ominous's sig on the zaurus.com forums |
| 20:11.12 | absentia | yup |
| 20:11.20 | absentia | how young are you ? |
| 20:11.21 | George- | er.. omin0us |
| 20:11.23 | George- | 15 |
| 20:11.30 | absentia | wasn't there a 14 or 12 or something? |
| 20:11.38 | George- | dunno |
| 20:12.00 | George- | he only said I was intelligent because I was the guy that first got 2.4.18 working on collie with OZ |
| 20:13.22 | absentia | anyone played dragon bane II ? |
| 20:13.24 | absentia | is it any good ? |
| 20:13.34 | George- | I didn't think much of the demo |
| 20:13.46 | absentia | there's a demo ? |
| 20:14.40 | absentia | ok |
| 20:14.44 | absentia | I see a beta download |
| 20:14.49 | absentia | is that the demo you where talking about ? |
| 20:15.38 | treke|home | reminds me of the bards tale |
| 20:16.29 | absentia | ya |
| 20:16.40 | absentia | I just wonder if I should spend all my time trying to get exult to work... and perhaps xu4 |
| 20:16.44 | absentia | vs buying dragon's bane. |
| 20:16.54 | absentia | I think my issue was just that I used a libsdl that wasn't friendly |
| 20:16.55 | George- | absentia: yeh, probably |
| 20:17.06 | absentia | I see many versions of libsdl now... and it sounds like 1.2.5 is the only one that works with anything |
| 20:17.18 | absentia | not 1.2.6 1.2.7(?) or jp ones or eongames ones... etc. |
| 20:17.20 | absentia | ok |
| 20:17.39 | _Psycho | overCLK have a pretty stable 1.2.6 version atm |
| 20:17.46 | _Psycho | scumvm gui fixed too |
| 20:17.49 | _Psycho | from the cvs |
| 20:18.49 | _Psycho | I mean scumvmm 0..5.5-cvs anyway, there still issue with mi3 |
| 20:18.53 | treke|home | gui is fixed in scummvm? rock on |
| 20:18.57 | _Psycho | debugged stuff a while last week |
| 20:19.06 | _Psycho | treke its a libsdl bug actually |
| 20:19.14 | treke|home | Ah. |
| 20:19.14 | _Psycho | from the japanese patch not a scummvm one |
| 20:19.18 | treke|home | not worth worrying about |
| 20:19.30 | treke|home | I don't want to fix the cursor again to try the new libsdl :p |
| 20:19.33 | vvff | Anybody figured out yet why BaSS doesn't work on Zaurus ScummVM? |
| 20:19.48 | _Psycho | vvff i never tried the game |
| 20:19.56 | _Psycho | i only tested ij4 and dott |
| 20:20.13 | _Psycho | trying to fix MI3 crash (doesnt crash on my linux compile) but does on my zaurus one |
| 20:20.33 | _Psycho | I probably look into it tonight |
| 20:20.48 | absentia | is there a decent/fast dos emulator for the z? so I could load up some old dos games? |
| 20:20.56 | absentia | I hear bochs is too slow to be usable. |
| 20:20.59 | _Psycho | no idea |
| 20:21.09 | _Psycho | oh treke |
| 20:21.18 | _Psycho | I had a question |
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| 20:21.41 | _Psycho | if you sitll around |
| 20:22.15 | treke|home | Yes. |
| 20:22.21 | vvff | absentia: This early? |
| 20:23.18 | _Psycho | You think we should leave cdrom support in libSDL ? like i did or just remove it from scummv like overCLK did ?, I told him "hey maybe someone will fake mount a cdrom on the zaurus to have the speech" |
| 20:23.30 | _Psycho | so we was kinda wondering this morning what was the best :) |
| 20:23.42 | treke|home | Leave it in is probably the best bet |
| 20:24.26 | _Psycho | in libSDL you mean ? i know that japanese version is compiled with --disable-cdrom thought :) |
| 20:36.08 | absentia | after 3 years away from new mexico... habanero seasoning from hell...still isn't hot enough for me. |
| 20:36.10 | absentia | :-/ |
| 20:40.39 | George- | http://www.hackles.org/ :D |
| 20:42.00 | absentia | hav you seen the tcpip and modern dekstops for atari 8bit |
| 20:42.02 | absentia | vic20 etc |
| 20:42.05 | absentia | I forgot the name of it |
| 20:42.07 | absentia | it's quite scary. |
| 20:42.41 | George- | http://www.hackles.org/cgi-bin/archives.pl?request=2 |
| 20:42.42 | George- | hahahaha |
| 20:42.58 | George- | sounds like.... KERGOTH!!!! |
| 20:43.38 | absentia | yup |
| 20:43.44 | absentia | there's a proper time to invole RTFM |
| 20:44.10 | absentia | that was probably too soon. |
| 20:44.20 | absentia | a simple: what error are you getting? |
| 20:44.25 | absentia | and then depending on the respnse, rtfm |
| 20:45.14 | George- | hahaha |
| 20:45.16 | George- | :D |
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| 21:49.30 | dhr | http://www.hackles.org/ is wrong about 8-bit addressing. All those processors had 16-bit addresses. |
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| 21:53.05 | absentia | which processor[s] ? |
| 21:54.40 | dhr | 8080, z80, 6502, 6800, 6809, 1802 all did 16-bit addressing. |
| 21:56.01 | absentia | yup |
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| 22:17.20 | absentia | heheh |
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| 22:20.17 | mickeyl | anyone running a SharpROM on SL5500/5000 here? |
| 22:20.22 | mickeyl | can you please do a |
| 22:20.28 | mickeyl | 'ls -l /dev/sharp*' for me |
| 22:20.47 | stew_b | mickeyl: sure, 1 sec |
| 22:20.52 | lpotter | *sigh* I _did_ have sharp rom running yeasterday |
| 22:21.01 | lpotter | hang on |
| 22:21.07 | lpotter | maybe its still there |
| 22:21.11 | absentia | aaaaaahhhaha! |
| 22:21.28 | absentia | dot files from 1996 taking up room... shit, I haven't thought of *that* program in ... years! |
| 22:21.32 | absentia | hey mickey!! |
| 22:21.35 | mickeyl | hi Abciximab |
| 22:21.37 | mickeyl | argh |
| 22:21.40 | mickeyl | ~lart tab completion |
| 22:21.42 | mickeyl | hi absentia |
| 22:22.06 | stew_b | no flood rules here? |
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| 22:22.10 | lpotter | sharp-audioctl |
| 22:22.13 | lpotter | sharp-buz |
| 22:22.23 | lpotter | sharp-kbdctl |
| 22:22.28 | lpotter | sharp-led |
| 22:22.32 | lpotter | sharp-ts |
| 22:22.36 | mickeyl | i need to know the device nodes |
| 22:22.37 | mickeyl | :) |
| 22:22.42 | mickeyl | so 'ls -l' would be handy |
| 22:22.43 | stew_b | mine all have "_" rather than "-" |
| 22:22.46 | lpotter | heeh |
| 22:22.46 | stew_b | # ls -l /dev/sharp* |
| 22:22.46 | stew_b | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 10, 213 Jul 22 2002 /dev/sharp_audioctl |
| 22:22.46 | stew_b | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 10, 211 Jul 22 2002 /dev/sharp_buz |
| 22:22.46 | stew_b | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 10, 214 Jul 22 2002 /dev/sharp_kbdctl |
| 22:22.46 | stew_b | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 10, 210 Jul 22 2002 /dev/sharp_led |
| 22:22.49 | stew_b | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 11, 0 Jul 22 2002 /dev/sharp_ts |
| 22:23.01 | lpotter | thx |
| 22:23.02 | mickeyl | ah that's it. |
| 22:23.04 | mickeyl | thank you stew_b |
| 22:23.06 | mickeyl | thanks ljp |
| 22:23.09 | stew_b | no prob |
| 22:23.34 | mickeyl | gonna have to look after why OZ 3.3.5-rc1 doesn't sound :) |
| 22:23.38 | mickeyl | but it's clear to me now |
| 22:25.08 | absentia | no 1969s... no 1980s (lame zaurus files!) |
| 22:25.22 | lpotter | check device_table |
| 22:25.31 | lpotter | :) |
| 22:25.40 | lpotter | and devices |
| 22:25.45 | mickeyl | we must revert to the status before oz picked up the buzzer patc |
| 22:26.02 | absentia | ok unix gururs. |
| 22:26.09 | lpotter | ya, I have to do that with my qtopia c700 images |
| 22:26.29 | absentia | gimme a one line (or short perl) program that will do a find on a dir tree and give # of files by year.... :-) |
| 22:26.34 | absentia | quick quick :-) |
| 22:26.46 | lpotter | ls |
| 22:27.07 | absentia | ls | awk ... I could do it with ls | 1 line of perl... good idea |
| 22:27.14 | absentia | cept < 365 days doesn't give year |
| 22:27.20 | absentia | so I'll have to special case that. |
| 22:32.06 | absentia | peace [207]> ls -l | awk 'substr($8,3,1) != ":" {print $8}' | ~/bin/uneeq | sort -n +1.0 > /tmp/bydate & |
| 22:32.06 | absentia | [4] 1624 1625 1626 1627 |
| 22:32.07 | absentia | done |
| 22:32.14 | mickeyl | ha! |
| 22:32.17 | mickeyl | sound works |
| 22:32.19 | mickeyl | thanks folks |
| 22:32.19 | mickeyl | cu |
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| 22:33.18 | absentia | later |
| 22:33.29 | absentia | which sound was he talking about ? |
| 22:47.10 | absentia | 1987=41, 1988=18, 1989=296, 1990=994, 1991=613, 1992=2522, 1993=5018, |
| 22:47.10 | absentia | 1994=5831, 1995=8369, 1996=22660, 1997=19135, 1998=17802, 1999=14894, |
| 22:47.11 | absentia | 2000=27724, 2001=9881, 2002=81, 2003=49 |
| 22:47.12 | absentia | there |
| 22:47.17 | absentia | that's the count... |
| 22:47.34 | absentia | but this doesn't count my cds... I guess I shuld check those. |
| 22:51.42 | vvff | absentia: You have stuff from 1987?!? |
| 22:52.07 | absentia | ya, I started using unix in '87 |
| 22:52.33 | absentia | I took an 8mm tape of my files with me when I left collect..... and I've had backups since. |
| 22:52.36 | vvff | Hmm... I was born in '87. |
| 22:52.42 | absentia | hehe |
| 22:52.55 | vvff | And started using linux in '97. |
| 22:53.14 | absentia | at H2K ... some kid asked me what I did... it was in the exhibits hall... I asked'm how old he was.. and when he answered, I replied that I had shell scripts older than he was... :-/ |
| 22:53.20 | absentia | one of my more meaner moments. |
| 22:53.28 | vvff | :-D |
| 22:53.35 | absentia | man, if I only had unix at 10 |
| 22:53.43 | absentia | I did find the first game I programmed... from 1983 |
| 22:53.52 | absentia | the original magazine page... |
| 22:54.01 | absentia | I'm gonna program it on the z with a pic of the original page. |
| 22:54.21 | absentia | kbyter... I think it was.. from pc magazine (or byte?) from '83 |
| 22:54.44 | vvff | Hmm... |
| 22:54.46 | absentia | most of my computers and stuff was stolen last year.... so I'm just seeing what's left. |
| 22:54.53 | vvff | Ouch. |
| 22:54.57 | absentia | oh, I firts used irc in '88 :-> |
| 22:55.02 | absentia | heheh |
| 22:55.34 | absentia | go to good and search for "yelich scud"... |
| 22:55.37 | absentia | google |
| 22:55.38 | vvff | Hmm. I first used irc in... ehh... '99 or so... |
| 22:55.58 | absentia | http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/communications/logs/Gulf-War/Jan-16-Quasar |
| 22:55.59 | absentia | ya |
| 22:56.10 | absentia | I've had pepole tell me that irc didn't exist before '93 'cuz that's when the rfc came out. |
| 22:57.55 | absentia | peace [406]> read old/i/irc/friend.gz | egrep -i copyright |
| 22:57.56 | absentia | # | Copyright 1989 Scott D. Yelich. All rights reserved. Last Mod:03/24/89| |
| 22:57.59 | vvff | Boy. I guess you've... been around. |
| 22:58.03 | absentia | old fart. |
| 22:58.31 | absentia | I got root... for the first time (at the university) a month before the internet worm hit... what fun. |
| 22:58.33 | vvff | Well, I got my first machine when I was 8... |
| 22:58.37 | absentia | that's cool |
| 22:58.48 | absentia | like I said... if I have unix when I was 10.... man. |
| 22:58.50 | vvff | A 486-66, 16megs of ram... |
| 22:59.03 | vvff | Starting using linux a couple years later. |
| 22:59.10 | vvff | And I've used it ever since. |
| 22:59.20 | absentia | a 486 was old in '96 |
| 22:59.25 | absentia | good choice. |
| 22:59.26 | absentia | :-) |
| 22:59.29 | vvff | Yup. I know. |
| 22:59.42 | vvff | Did I mention I've also always been perpetually broke? ;-) |
| 22:59.53 | vvff | My dad bought me that one, and the next one... |
| 22:59.54 | absentia | :-) but still, it was quite usable for linux! |
| 23:00.25 | vvff | And then I gradually built up some cash, got a 500mhz AMD machine in ~99 or so. |
| 23:00.34 | vvff | Actually, 2000. |
| 23:00.46 | vvff | I've upgraded gradually since then... |
| 23:01.44 | absentia | cool |
| 23:01.58 | absentia | I'm on ... a 500mhz celeron now... I've had it since '99 (laptop)... |
| 23:01.59 | vvff | So I now have a half-way decent machine, even by modern standards... |
| 23:02.09 | absentia | I run freebsd... and it still works just fine for my primary machine. |
| 23:02.18 | vvff | Yeah, I wish I could get a laptop sometime... |
| 23:02.24 | vvff | Oh well. I think I need a job first. |
| 23:02.30 | absentia | 'specially since all the rest were stolen... but they were way old anyway.... 8cpu sparcstation 1000 |
| 23:02.48 | absentia | well, desktops and laptops each have their place. |
| 23:03.24 | absentia | my current setup is.... zaurus for all my (imporant) data... and dev... laptop for a real keyboard, and cdr access ... and I just bought an offsite colo box so I could get some stuff back on the net... |
| 23:03.31 | absentia | hell, even one of my primary domains lapsed.. :-/ |
| 23:04.56 | absentia | ok, lets see how many files I have archived just on cdrs. |
| 23:06.58 | absentia | gzip -d -c /cds/#INDEX/all.gz | wc -l |
| 23:06.58 | absentia | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.10 | vvff | Hmm... |
| 23:07.16 | vvff | How many cds? |
| 23:07.52 | absentia | 200 |
| 23:08.35 | absentia | I had over 475,000 files in my home dir in like 99 ... I had to cleanit up. I moved out 300,000+ files and never missed'm. it's too easy to make a mess with 'puters. |
| 23:09.00 | absentia | I'm indexing those 2million files by date now. |
| 23:12.37 | vvff | Lots of files... |
| 23:12.56 | vvff | How many files do I have in my home... |
| 23:14.04 | vvff | Hmm... its taking a while to figure it out... ;-) bad sign... |
| 23:14.56 | absentia | 1987=406, 1988=157, 1989=2185, 1990=7643, 1991=5089, 1992=24670, |
| 23:14.56 | absentia | 1993=56956, 1994=71394, 1995=83383, 1996=217365, 1997=201660, |
| 23:14.56 | absentia | 1998=254245, 1999=205602, 2000=444418, 2001=88570, 2002=52247, |
| 23:14.56 | absentia | 2003=1884, |
| 23:15.13 | absentia | vvff: if an rm takes a long time... that's usually a scary thing... |
| 23:15.14 | vvff | 179327... |
| 23:15.16 | MG_Tak | jesus christ |
| 23:15.22 | absentia | ``Hmmm, that shouldn't be taking this long...'' |
| 23:15.28 | absentia | see! it grows. |
| 23:15.29 | vvff | That was an ls, though. |
| 23:15.41 | absentia | dirs are files too. |
| 23:15.44 | vvff | That's a fair bit of files... |
| 23:16.02 | vvff | MG_Tak: wanna bet? |
| 23:16.12 | absentia | let me check my freebsd system |
| 23:16.24 | MG_Tak | vvff: if you take out /usr/ports, I'm pretty sure I don't have 475,000 files. :) |
| 23:16.35 | absentia | peace [281]> wc -l /.allfiles |
| 23:16.35 | absentia | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.44 | absentia | 460K on this entire freebsd system. |
| 23:17.10 | absentia | how large is your home dir? |
| 23:17.21 | absentia | mine is 8 cdroms... I'm trying to get it down to 1. |
| 23:17.29 | vvff | Lemme check... |
| 23:18.15 | vvff | Taking a long time... |
| 23:18.24 | absentia | ya |
| 23:18.54 | absentia | I do an ls -Rl / > /.allfiles ... via cron... it's a but like fastfind... also do it in my ~ .... makes searching very fast. |
| 23:19.42 | lpotter | why not use slocate? |
| 23:20.05 | absentia | solaris has slocate? wht's slocate? probably just a similar thing? |
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| 23:21.50 | absentia | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.04 | absentia | ing the rift? |
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| 23:25.48 | absentia | ya |
| 23:25.53 | absentia | if you haven't seen it... watch it |
| 23:26.01 | absentia | I can put up some good cipes, if you can't find any decent copies. |
| 23:26.17 | absentia | sort of like the original spirit of christmas. |
| 23:26.32 | vvff`bleh | 488299 files on my sytem in all. |
| 23:26.38 | vvff`bleh | And my home dir is 5.8 gigs. |
| 23:27.21 | absentia | ah! 5.8GB... huge. |
| 23:27.27 | absentia | now, take out media... :-> |
| 23:27.36 | vvff | absentia: nope, no media. |
| 23:27.45 | vvff | absentia: I build a lot of stuff from source in their. |
| 23:28.03 | vvff | *there |
| 23:29.44 | vvff | absentia: all my music etc. is elsewhere... |
| 23:29.59 | absentia | vvff: cool! then yours is larger than mine. |
| 23:30.20 | absentia | mine had a lot of source too... now I try to make sure I link a work or "compile" dir... so I don't clutter up my home. |
| 23:30.53 | vvff | absentia: the build directory I use accounts for 4.9 gigs of it. ;-) |
| 23:31.00 | vvff | I'm gonna clean it out some time... |
| 23:31.22 | imk | 488299 is nothing :P |
| 23:31.31 | vvff | imk: Ok. What's your count? |
| 23:31.35 | imk | i have 280,000 in pictures alone :P |
| 23:31.41 | absentia | what type of pics? |
| 23:31.45 | vvff | imk: bleh. |
| 23:31.45 | imk | scans |
| 23:31.51 | absentia | of? |
| 23:32.08 | absentia | I just found saves of the astronomy pic of the day for like 3 years... |
| 23:32.16 | imk | absentia: asian women |
| 23:32.36 | absentia | I love the shot of the earth at night... world side.. with all clouds removed... so you can see where humans live and place that are really populated. |
| 23:32.46 | absentia | imk: heheheh.. hope it's automated. |
| 23:33.09 | absentia | I automated converting all my 240+ music cds to mp3s... but then many of my cdrs died (and the cds were stolen) ... blah. |
| 23:33.54 | imk | absentia: ever been part of the scan scene? they have a main csv file which has fields for the filename, filesize, filecrc, path (sometimes), and comment |
| 23:34.13 | imk | all i do is import the csv into pgsql and put the files in a directory |
| 23:34.34 | imk | and i have it automatically generate thumbnails and compare filesize, filecrc and store the resolution |
| 23:35.43 | absentia | http://www.spy.org/zaurus/public/tmp/nightlights.jpg |
| 23:36.00 | absentia | imk: no... sounds nice. |
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| 23:38.40 | imk | absentia: it is, theyre high quality pics as well... and theyre all tasteful and make great desktop pics ;) |
| 23:39.07 | absentia | nice |
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| 23:39.35 | absentia | I usually have a solid black background |
| 23:39.40 | absentia | and white letters on black in my windows. |
| 23:39.48 | W8TVI | me has about a GB of photos that I took with my digial camera |
| 23:40.11 | absentia | right |
| 23:40.16 | absentia | but media is large.. mp3, etc... |
| 23:40.21 | absentia | doesn't count. |
| 23:40.31 | absentia | plus, Id say that 80% of my files are compressed. |
| 23:40.32 | absentia | :-> |
| 23:41.13 | absentia | I ran find . -type f -mtime +365 .. and gzipped files... |
| 23:41.30 | absentia | after a two years... almost everything that's old gets compressed. |
| 23:42.54 | absentia | mg: whatcha think of trippin' ? |
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| 23:46.06 | dhr | absentia: slocate is GPLed, I think, so it can be moved to solaris. Solaris comes with "fast find", I think, so you can say "find xxxx" and get result like locate. Been years since I used solaris seriously, so I may be misremembering; might only be a SunOS feature. |
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| 23:51.22 | absentia | ya, it's just a pre find... and then grep.. etc. same as what I do. [??] ... unless it has some amazing feature I just can't live without, std unix is good enough. |
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