| 00:03.54 | MG_Tak | in a lot of cases, there wouldn't have been any need for PHP-side data manipulation. |
| 00:04.33 | gerrynjr | MG_Tak> it was eggs |
| 00:04.50 | gerrynjr | so.. I need to wait to see how long generations up[on gnerations upon generations of mites take to die off |
| 00:05.01 | gerrynjr | unless.. do they eat they're dead? |
| 00:05.07 | gerrynjr | in that case it'll be perpetual |
| 00:06.50 | absentia | you're the mite guy? |
| 00:07.02 | absentia | what did you think of the sun suggestion? |
| 00:07.13 | MG_Tak | what was said suggestion? |
| 00:07.22 | gerrynjr | absentia> you posted that? |
| 00:07.28 | gerrynjr | and i'm not a "mite" guy |
| 00:07.28 | absentia | leave device in direct sunlight |
| 00:07.36 | absentia | ah |
| 00:07.38 | absentia | ya |
| 00:07.40 | gerrynjr | absentia> the manual specifically says not to do so |
| 00:07.46 | absentia | i know |
| 00:07.59 | absentia | hence the line 'bout sploding in 3 seconds |
| 00:08.09 | absentia | I bet, though |
| 00:08.24 | gerrynjr | the thing laid eggs |
| 00:08.30 | absentia | the device could be heated to a point where it woudn't hurt the device |
| 00:08.31 | gerrynjr | it wasn't mite shit, as I had hoped |
| 00:08.37 | absentia | but the mites would flee |
| 00:08.49 | gerrynjr | absentia> unfortunately... |
| 00:08.53 | gerrynjr | it's winter here |
| 00:09.00 | gerrynjr | it will only freeze the device |
| 00:09.02 | absentia | you you are the mite guy.. or are you a gal? |
| 00:09.15 | absentia | naw |
| 00:09.19 | gerrynjr | no.. i'm a clean guy with a fd up handheld that was shipped with mites |
| 00:09.24 | absentia | in a window sill |
| 00:09.34 | gerrynjr | absentia> I don't twant the buggers in the house! |
| 00:09.49 | absentia | it will get heated, unless you're way north or south |
| 00:10.03 | absentia | naw, use the bag idea |
| 00:10.18 | absentia | device in bag in sun... just enough to warm it up |
| 00:10.36 | absentia | im in nyc |
| 00:10.44 | gerrynjr | absentia> I left the pda on overnight hoping the processor would warm up enough |
| 00:10.51 | absentia | nope |
| 00:10.51 | gerrynjr | nope |
| 00:11.24 | absentia | but you could put it on top of another laptop... etc... again, its probably a fine line between cooking the mites and cooking the unit |
| 00:11.48 | absentia | what does the manual say the temp range is? |
| 00:12.00 | absentia | for normal use/env? |
| 00:12.32 | treke | they seem to survive texas, so it should be good up to 2 or 3 hundred degrees |
| 00:12.44 | absentia | ha |
| 00:12.49 | absentia | lets say its 120F |
| 00:13.05 | absentia | well, even 90F is probably hot for the mites |
| 00:13.54 | MG_Tak | The AC unit in this room sounds like a damn dishwasher. |
| 00:14.09 | gerrynjr | ac? |
| 00:14.15 | gerrynjr | WHERE THE FRICK ARE YOU? |
| 00:14.44 | treke | gerrynjr: not all of the US has winter |
| 00:14.44 | MG_Tak | in a lab with a lot of computers that will actually cause the room to go over 90F if it's not AC'ed. :) |
| 00:15.00 | absentia | only 90? |
| 00:15.14 | gerrynjr | absentia> so, your the snake guy? |
| 00:15.20 | absentia | ya |
| 00:15.39 | kergoth | heh, its 72 out here |
| 00:15.44 | gerrynjr | I was thinking though.. could my dog have brought the mite in? |
| 00:15.46 | absentia | haven't had'm in a while, though. |
| 00:15.48 | kergoth | its right now that i really love living here |
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| 00:15.59 | RBIA | can someone help me? |
| 00:16.05 | kergoth | no |
| 00:16.13 | RBIA | :\ |
| 00:16.20 | kergoth | just ask. dont ask to ask. |
| 00:16.20 | gerrynjr | RBIA> present your question in a detailed mannar and maybe :-D |
| 00:16.20 | absentia | hell, I don't know.... my snake got'm from thin air.. |
| 00:16.26 | treke | kergoth: 57 right now. So everyone is wearing jackets :) |
| 00:16.29 | treke | california is funny |
| 00:16.32 | gerrynjr | it's bout 57 here |
| 00:16.34 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:16.43 | gerrynjr | who needs a jacket? |
| 00:16.45 | treke | these people would freaking die if it hit 0 |
| 00:16.50 | gerrynjr | I walk through snow w/o a jacket |
| 00:17.01 | absentia | the coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in frisco? |
| 00:17.03 | RBIA | Ok. My friend was playing missile command. Then it hard froze. I tried soft reset, but now it just hangs at OpenZaurus Boot screen |
| 00:17.08 | MG_Tak | absentia: it's not a huge amount of computers, just enough that they keep the temperature high |
| 00:17.14 | gerrynjr | RBIA> reflash |
| 00:17.29 | absentia | ah, personal puters... not work. |
| 00:17.32 | kergoth | i remember school being canceled one day cause it was 80 below zero with the windchill |
| 00:17.37 | kergoth | that rocked |
| 00:17.42 | RBIA | that would be a consideration, but I do not have a CF card reader.. |
| 00:17.50 | absentia | mn sucks |
| 00:17.52 | RBIA | i was going to borrow one from a friend tomorrow |
| 00:17.53 | kergoth | yeh, it does |
| 00:18.07 | absentia | you couldn't pay me 'nuff to ever live there |
| 00:18.13 | absentia | not even in the summer. |
| 00:18.22 | MG_Tak | Maine's nice in the summer.. |
| 00:18.29 | MG_Tak | kergoth: which school did you go to? |
| 00:18.44 | RBIA | how to do hard reset? |
| 00:18.50 | kergoth | i dont have a degree. only went to college for a year and bailed |
| 00:18.54 | kergoth | some community college anywya |
| 00:18.58 | MG_Tak | of course, that place is up near f'ing canada |
| 00:19.00 | kergoth | RBIA: button under the battery cover |
| 00:19.16 | RBIA | remove battery first? |
| 00:19.43 | gerrynjr | RBIA> no need |
| 00:19.43 | kergoth | no, just tap the button and put the cover back on |
| 00:20.13 | RBIA | and it should reinitialize.. with the setup... |
| 00:20.23 | RBIA | mine just seems to hang, no flashing cursor on boot screen |
| 00:20.55 | gerrynjr | kergoth> yet another reason why flash ROM should be just that... ROM |
| 00:21.18 | kergoth | gerrynjr: ? |
| 00:21.21 | treke | which reason is that? |
| 00:21.28 | kergoth | the only time you should have to reflash is if you fucked something up |
| 00:21.34 | kergoth | now, in 2.4.6's old ass jffs2, who knows |
| 00:21.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:21.40 | gerrynjr | well.. leaving it wriable.. leaves the ROM open for curruption, does it not? |
| 00:21.52 | treke | No more so than it being non writable |
| 00:22.05 | kergoth | and this corruption would occur how exactly? |
| 00:22.14 | kergoth | not from a machine crash, its a journal structured filesystem |
| 00:22.18 | kergoth | recovers gracefully |
| 00:22.24 | gerrynjr | ah, I forgot about journaling... |
| 00:23.20 | treke | The biggest reason not to leave it writable is to prevent people from fucking it up. |
| 00:23.26 | kergoth | exactly |
| 00:23.33 | kergoth | so the other day |
| 00:23.38 | kergoth | i did a layout of a read only rootfs |
| 00:23.44 | kergoth | thats much cleaner than lineo's implementation |
| 00:23.49 | kergoth | but still gives you the same effect |
| 00:23.54 | gerrynjr | damn |
| 00:23.56 | kergoth | we'll have to produce roms that do this optionally |
| 00:24.01 | treke | cool. |
| 00:24.08 | gerrynjr | kergoth> either way, i'm all for it |
| 00:24.15 | gerrynjr | if you need testing.. and these mites leave... |
| 00:24.20 | gerrynjr | i'll help out as much as I can |
| 00:24.26 | treke | at least with ro jffs2 you can remount it writable to do updates |
| 00:24.32 | kergoth | iyeah |
| 00:24.32 | treke | unlike cramfs |
| 00:24.35 | kergoth | what i'll do is |
| 00:24.48 | kergoth | make a file that contains a list of files whose changes from the writable area get pushed back into the ro |
| 00:25.00 | treke | I'd even consider using a ro image if it wasn't too big a mess |
| 00:25.03 | kergoth | so that you could leave the core ro, but still push changes there when you know they work |
| 00:25.33 | treke | Though I last flashed my c760 a month or so ago. :) |
| 00:25.56 | n_flag | is there anyway to get a new rom on a cf card if the OS does isn't booting? |
| 00:26.05 | kergoth | buy a cf reader. |
| 00:26.09 | treke | with a cf reader |
| 00:26.13 | kergoth | they're damn cheap, either usb or pcmcia |
| 00:26.22 | n_flag | i tried tkcrom and it's saying that all of these .conf files are not available |
| 00:26.34 | n_flag | yeah, hoping there was a non $$ solution :) |
| 00:26.44 | kergoth | fraid not |
| 00:26.46 | absentia | $7 or less |
| 00:27.03 | W8TVI | I paid something $40 for a everything in one usb reader |
| 00:27.33 | RBIA | i will lose my todo and calender if i reflash, correct? |
| 00:27.57 | W8TVI | RBIA: yep |
| 00:28.19 | W8TVI | RBIA: so back it up |
| 00:29.27 | gerrynjr | W8TVI> the thing laid 15 eggs today |
| 00:29.33 | gerrynjr | fun fun fun fun fun |
| 00:29.38 | gerrynjr | INFESTATION! |
| 00:29.52 | W8TVI | lol |
| 00:30.04 | gerrynjr | oh well.. it's in a abaggie |
| 00:30.12 | gerrynjr | friday night i'm gonna take the thing apart |
| 00:30.15 | gerrynjr | and vacuum it |
| 00:30.24 | gerrynjr | if it breaks.. oh well |
| 00:30.29 | gerrynjr | nothing lost nothing gained |
| 00:30.37 | gerrynjr | at least I didn't put too much of an investment into it |
| 00:30.37 | absentia | 15? |
| 00:30.40 | absentia | muahahahah |
| 00:30.55 | n_flag | how can a fresh install of tkc be missing THIS many files...it's rediculous |
| 00:31.07 | absentia | logarithmic infestation population growth |
| 00:31.12 | gerrynjr | absentia> 15 bright fdots on the screen |
| 00:31.29 | gerrynjr | i'm assuming they are eggs |
| 00:31.32 | absentia | gerry |
| 00:31.32 | gerrynjr | or, it's mite shit |
| 00:31.42 | absentia | get one of those air blaster bottles |
| 00:31.48 | gerrynjr | in that case, they shit quite a bit |
| 00:31.52 | absentia | use and entire cannister on the sucker |
| 00:31.59 | absentia | do it outside |
| 00:32.04 | gerrynjr | absentia> but.. that shit get's cold.. |
| 00:32.06 | absentia | far away from your home |
| 00:32.09 | gerrynjr | I can damage the screen w/ it |
| 00:32.18 | absentia | do it further awy from the device |
| 00:32.24 | treke | gerrynjr: And mites crapping on your screen doesnt? |
| 00:32.30 | absentia | ya, don't freeze the lcd |
| 00:32.49 | gerrynjr | absentia> the question is.. can i get between the dogotizer and the screen? |
| 00:33.00 | W8TVI | nope |
| 00:33.09 | kergoth | well, if there was a way for him to get in, you can |
| 00:33.14 | absentia | between the protection plate and the lcd? dunno |
| 00:33.16 | kergoth | if he was there from manufacturing, you cant |
| 00:33.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:33.25 | absentia | hahhaaaa |
| 00:33.26 | gerrynjr | kergoth> i'm thinking it's a she |
| 00:33.35 | gerrynjr | but.. I don't give a frick ATM |
| 00:33.38 | gerrynjr | it'll be dead soon |
| 00:33.39 | absentia | you have a builnt in ant-farm ,screen saver |
| 00:33.43 | absentia | screen shitter |
| 00:33.45 | gerrynjr | and out of my electronics |
| 00:34.25 | treke | why try |
| 00:34.31 | absentia | ok |
| 00:34.39 | absentia | muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahahaahahahaaha |
| 00:34.46 | gerrynjr | absentia> I knew it! |
| 00:34.50 | gerrynjr | you sabotaged my Z! |
| 00:34.51 | absentia | *cough* *ahem* |
| 00:34.54 | absentia | better. |
| 00:35.04 | absentia | naw |
| 00:35.12 | absentia | no mites, mate. |
| 00:35.15 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: its nto a dust mite |
| 00:35.21 | W8TVI | not |
| 00:35.25 | gerrynjr | I know it isnt |
| 00:35.32 | gerrynjr | i've been looking up more research |
| 00:35.33 | absentia | lice!!!! |
| 00:35.36 | gerrynjr | it's a regular mite |
| 00:35.42 | absentia | space herpy |
| 00:35.45 | gerrynjr | lmao |
| 00:35.57 | gerrynjr | it's a bug STD planted there by microsoft! |
| 00:36.03 | absentia | japanese godzilla tech mite |
| 00:36.16 | treke | your zaurus was sleeping around with a pocketpc |
| 00:36.21 | absentia | eeeeew |
| 00:36.24 | absentia | crabs!! |
| 00:36.31 | gerrynjr | absentia> no.. mites! |
| 00:36.32 | absentia | ever see that screen saver... |
| 00:36.37 | absentia | for suntools? |
| 00:36.45 | absentia | or did I just date myself? |
| 00:36.53 | kergoth | you just dated yourself |
| 00:37.07 | treke | of course we already knew you were an old bastard |
| 00:37.07 | absentia | they would eat the pixels of your screen, one at a time? |
| 00:37.32 | absentia | I like the fly screen thing for the atari st |
| 00:37.33 | treke | hmmm. That's scary. Kergoth is already a grumpy unix guy. |
| 00:37.35 | kergoth | whats the name of the solaris tool like strace again? |
| 00:37.46 | treke | Think of how bad he'll be in twenty years |
| 00:37.55 | absentia | it would fly around, it being a fly'n'all... it would land |
| 00:38.16 | absentia | do that thing they do with their legs... and then crawl along the edge of the screen |
| 00:38.24 | absentia | truss |
| 00:38.26 | dhr | truss |
| 00:38.34 | kergoth | ah yeah, thats right |
| 00:38.35 | kergoth | thanks |
| 00:39.37 | treke | you succeed more often than kergoth |
| 00:39.44 | kergoth | heh, i was about to say that |
| 00:39.57 | treke | hell. you try more often than kergoth |
| 00:40.04 | absentia | perhaps... here. |
| 00:40.11 | kergoth | treke: good point |
| 00:40.18 | absentia | im usually permabaned by this time. |
| 00:40.28 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:40.33 | kergoth | i remember kicking you a couple times |
| 00:40.45 | absentia | i think #perl stil has a ban from pre '98 |
| 00:40.54 | absentia | one time, I was on the channel 4 times |
| 00:41.06 | absentia | and everyone joining had to prove they were not me |
| 00:41.07 | kergoth | didnt we ban you from #openembedded, then let you back in, or something? |
| 00:41.12 | kergoth | absentia: hah |
| 00:41.19 | absentia | the more they protested, the more me they were guilty |
| 00:41.36 | absentia | it was funny watching merlyn gettin' the boot for denying that he was me |
| 00:41.48 | treke | hehe |
| 00:41.53 | absentia | can't remember |
| 00:42.04 | absentia | permabans don't register much anymore. |
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| 00:42.35 | absentia | hell, I7ve been accused of sniffing a major irc hub just to get around bans. |
| 00:42.44 | absentia | of course, I deny that. |
| 00:42.56 | kergoth | heh, did you though? :) |
| 00:43.22 | absentia | althoguh, I do proudly take credit for terrorizing #warez so much... they wrote a paper how to avoid me |
| 00:43.26 | treke | I don't think anything of freenode qualifies as a major irc hub |
| 00:43.43 | treke | on |
| 00:43.54 | absentia | (and they blamed it on someone else)... and after that day, #warez split to multiple channels... hehehe |
| 00:44.08 | absentia | ever wonder why irc nicks cant have numbers in'm |
| 00:44.12 | absentia | you're welcome |
| 00:44.51 | W8TVI | they cant have number in them? |
| 00:44.57 | W8TVI | <--- |
| 00:45.01 | absentia | i remember a time, long ago, whenever an irc op was collided, they kill me just as a matter of principle. bastards. |
| 00:45.13 | kergoth | he probably means on efnet or undernet, not freenode |
| 00:45.25 | W8TVI | ah |
| 00:45.25 | absentia | efnet |
| 00:45.38 | absentia | it's a stupid rule |
| 00:45.59 | absentia | haxors use to use sc - zero - tt ... and I was sc - oh - tt ... |
| 00:46.02 | absentia | lovely. |
| 00:46.53 | absentia | SC0TT SCOTT SCOTT SCOTT SC0TT SCOTT SCOTT |
| 00:46.55 | absentia | etc |
| 00:46.59 | W8TVI | N031 |
| 00:47.18 | absentia | hehehe |
| 00:47.25 | gerrynjr | l33t d00dz |
| 00:47.41 | absentia | i remember when irc servers didn't have flood protection.... AT ALL ... hehehe |
| 00:47.54 | treke | chr1s |
| 00:47.55 | W8TVI | me too |
| 00:48.12 | absentia | man, fun days. |
| 00:48.13 | kergoth | nah, it was 'anarch' in around 94 or 95 for a number of yeras |
| 00:48.18 | Turbonium | hmm |
| 00:48.27 | Turbonium | who owns this one? |
| 00:48.48 | absentia | i stopped running my server in '93... 'cause I'd had enough... |
| 00:49.00 | W8TVI | ah... me :) |
| 00:49.07 | *** part/#zaurus RBIA (~343kj4@12-212-62-103.client.attbi.com) |
| 00:49.22 | W8TVI | -NickServ- Nickname: turbonium |
| 00:49.22 | W8TVI | -NickServ- Registered: 39 weeks 5 days (18h 17m 37s) ago |
| 00:49.22 | W8TVI | -NickServ- Last Seen: 22 weeks 4 days (21h 18m 53s) ago |
| 00:49.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:51.37 | absentia | http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/communications/logs/Gulf-War/Jan-16-Quasar |
| 00:52.36 | absentia | heheh, here's the completion date of my first bot... # | Copyright 1989 Scott D. Yelich. All rights reserved. Last Mod:03/24/89| |
| 00:52.44 | absentia | anyone remember wisner's bartender? |
| 00:53.42 | gerrynjr | -NickServ- Nickname: gerrynjr << ONLINE >> |
| 00:53.42 | gerrynjr | -NickServ- Registered: 1 year 15 weeks 5 days (1h 29m 23s) ago |
| 00:57.30 | antigerg | NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Nickname: treke |
| 00:57.31 | antigerg | -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered: 3 years 9 weeks 1 day (1h 46m 54s) ago |
| 00:58.01 | gerrynjr | nice |
| 00:58.25 | kergoth | 18:57 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Nickname: kergoth << ONLINE >> |
| 00:58.26 | kergoth | 18:57 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered: 2 years 2 weeks (18h 21m 27s) ago |
| 00:58.27 | gerrynjr | been using freenode (aka openprojects.net) for 4 years or so now |
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| 00:59.21 | gerrynjr | antigerg> IRC is a time blackhole |
| 01:01.13 | W8TVI | NickServ- Nickname: W8TVI << ONLINE >> |
| 01:01.13 | W8TVI | -NickServ- Registered: 13 weeks 2 days (6h 39m 37s) ago |
| 01:01.36 | W8TVI | I could have register it beforehand... |
| 01:04.04 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: how do you get ti to send the password? |
| 01:04.23 | gerrynjr | er.. I meant method of authentication |
| 01:04.29 | W8TVI | ah |
| 01:04.43 | gerrynjr | yes.. i'll like one order of plain text passwds |
| 01:05.12 | kergoth | heh, too bad freenode doesnt run everything over ssl |
| 01:05.22 | gerrynjr | they should |
| 01:05.29 | kergoth | yep |
| 01:05.46 | gerrynjr | as of now.. there is only one ssl server.. and it's in germany |
| 01:05.57 | gerrynjr | even so... the information needs to be sent to the insecure servers./.. |
| 01:06.00 | gerrynjr | so it's pointless |
| 01:06.12 | kergoth | well, obviously they'd all have to |
| 01:06.13 | kergoth | yeh |
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| 01:14.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:14.30 | kergoth | would be nice if uic/lupdate/lrelease/moc were packaged independently |
| 01:14.31 | kergoth | or something |
| 01:14.36 | dhr | we (FreeSWAN) were talking of getting some of FreeNode proteced by our Opportunistic Encryption (IPsec negotiated without prearrangement). |
| 01:14.42 | kergoth | oh you need uic, just grab the uic tarball and build the damn thing |
| 01:16.23 | ljp | hmm |
| 01:16.44 | kergoth | just make it so it can be built against either qt2 or qt3 thats already in the system |
| 01:16.47 | kergoth | then life is good |
| 01:16.48 | ljp | but usually those things need the libraries and headers to build |
| 01:16.56 | kergoth | yep |
| 01:17.37 | absentia | qt3!! |
| 01:18.47 | MG_Tak | dhr: you have anything to do with FreeSWAN for Z? :) |
| 01:23.41 | dhr | no. But I'm interested in it. One reason I bought a Z |
| 01:35.13 | ][eBerg | Are these trustworthy given the tempremental power board in the zaurus? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3059339780&category=15029 |
| 01:35.54 | gerrynjr | ][eBerg> the mites are eating my power board! |
| 01:36.12 | ][eBerg | actualy 12v ate mine |
| 01:37.58 | n_flag | anyone around an RF engineer, or know a lot about the intricies of RF ? |
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| 01:45.56 | ][eBerg | n_flag, not a WHOLE lot, but hay I have my ham license |
| 01:49.20 | ][eBerg | whoa I can get 640x480 on a Z using an svideo TV!! sweet!! |
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| 02:06.05 | n_flag | ][eBerg: I heard that RF nulls don't really occur in the 2.4GHz range, I'm just curious if that's true |
| 02:06.30 | n_flag | and that loss in performance is more due to interference rather than a drop of signal |
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| 02:13.12 | erikd | rawr, i'm back after uhm... an almost one year haitus! |
| 02:13.39 | erikd | kc's in -this- channel too? |
| 02:13.41 | erikd | jeez |
| 02:15.17 | kergoth | hey erikd |
| 02:15.25 | erikd | heya kergoth |
| 02:15.40 | erikd | i finally updated oz to 3.2 isntead of that pre pre pre 3.0 i was running :) |
| 02:16.11 | erikd | i bought a netgear ma701. i now have renewed interest in my z |
| 02:16.39 | kergoth | ahh nice |
| 02:16.55 | erikd | having troubles getting it working, though |
| 02:17.00 | erikd | i can't ping my gateway :) |
| 02:17.08 | erikd | dunno if it's my z or the access point |
| 02:19.04 | erikd | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website//faq/faq?id=91 |
| 02:19.07 | erikd | looks like my z :) |
| 02:21.07 | erikd | or not |
| 02:21.53 | W8TVI | erikd: take it back and get the abicom card |
| 02:22.24 | W8TVI | the neetgear cards have a nasty habit of dieing |
| 02:22.39 | erikd | eh, i bought it off ebay |
| 02:22.45 | W8TVI | ah |
| 02:22.46 | erikd | if it dies i'll look into that |
| 02:22.48 | erikd | :) |
| 02:23.27 | W8TVI | how much did you pay for it? |
| 02:23.35 | erikd | 29 |
| 02:23.47 | erikd | plus 2 day air |
| 02:23.48 | W8TVI | you got riped off |
| 02:23.55 | W8TVI | you can get them for that newe |
| 02:23.57 | W8TVI | new |
| 02:23.58 | erikd | where's a good place to buy 'em? |
| 02:25.17 | erikd | anyone get their z and oz 3.2 working with 64-bit wep? |
| 02:25.50 | kergoth | remember to use s:asciikey if its ascii |
| 02:25.53 | kergoth | no s: if hex |
| 02:26.11 | erikd | i tried that and it said it failed |
| 02:26.40 | erikd | Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument |
| 02:27.06 | kergoth | havent heard of that.. odd |
| 02:27.27 | erikd | i know the card works because i found an unprotected network in my building at work |
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| 02:42.58 | erikd | does oz use the 64 or 128 bit wep? |
| 02:43.23 | kergoth | oz doesnt care. |
| 02:43.28 | kergoth | the card/driver/ap does |
| 02:43.33 | erikd | oh |
| 02:43.55 | W8TVI | erikd: host ap uses both |
| 02:43.56 | kergoth | so maybe that card is only 64? |
| 02:44.15 | W8TVI | the card is both 64 and 128 |
| 02:44.33 | W8TVI | I've just never been able to get wep to work very well on OZ |
| 02:44.48 | erikd | if anyone wants to hack my network, so be it |
| 02:44.53 | erikd | it's all linux boxes anyway :) |
| 02:47.18 | W8TVI | lol |
| 02:51.35 | erikd | is there a stable oz package that installs apache? |
| 02:51.41 | erikd | or can i just install php? |
| 02:53.36 | gerrynjr | DIE MITE SCUM! |
| 02:53.40 | gerrynjr | DIEEEEEEEEEEEE! |
| 02:54.13 | gerrynjr | DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! |
| 02:54.32 | gerrynjr | hey! I got one! |
| 02:54.35 | gerrynjr | woohoo! |
| 02:54.44 | W8TVI | "one"? |
| 02:54.49 | gerrynjr | er... now there's mite gut on my screen! |
| 02:54.55 | W8TVI | lol |
| 02:54.58 | gerrynjr | W8TVI> there's 3 mites as if this morining |
| 02:55.02 | gerrynjr | of |
| 02:55.25 | gerrynjr | if I tap the screen any harder... i'll break it |
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| 02:56.42 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: install bugsquish on it |
| 02:56.58 | gerrynjr | W8TVI> the battery is out right now |
| 02:57.01 | gerrynjr | so nothing shorts |
| 03:01.23 | absentia | r |
| 03:01.23 | absentia | e |
| 03:01.43 | gerrynjr | http://www.whiteboxrobotics.com/ |
| 03:01.48 | absentia | you know |
| 03:02.00 | absentia | if the mite died... you could have blown it away |
| 03:02.12 | absentia | but you can get rid of dried on liquid |
| 03:02.28 | gerrynjr | MG_Tak> and i'm getting sick of creepy crawlies |
| 03:02.28 | W8TVI | dried bug guts! |
| 03:02.54 | MG_Tak | gerrynjr: wish I could help :) |
| 03:02.56 | absentia | :-/ |
| 03:03.12 | gerrynjr | fuck... they eat thier wounded! |
| 03:03.18 | gerrynjr | I just created more spwn! |
| 03:03.19 | absentia | ha |
| 03:03.22 | gerrynjr | gah! |
| 03:03.25 | gerrynjr | bastards! |
| 03:03.26 | gerrynjr | no! |
| 03:03.30 | absentia | mites |
| 03:03.30 | gerrynjr | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
| 03:03.37 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: dont let them scratch you! |
| 03:03.38 | gerrynjr | they are resilient! |
| 03:03.40 | absentia | I know why you stay up all night... |
| 03:03.43 | absentia | searching.. |
| 03:03.45 | absentia | searching... |
| 03:03.55 | absentia | you feel there's more to the world... |
| 03:04.01 | gerrynjr | fucking alien freaks! |
| 03:04.10 | gerrynjr | cannabis.. |
| 03:04.11 | gerrynjr | er... |
| 03:04.14 | gerrynjr | cannabals! |
| 03:04.21 | gerrynjr | man... very bad typo |
| 03:04.45 | absentia | pic. |
| 03:04.47 | absentia | pic |
| 03:05.02 | gerrynjr | demands proof of what? |
| 03:05.08 | gerrynjr | them eating thier wounded? |
| 03:05.11 | absentia | pics of the mites and mite guts |
| 03:05.12 | gerrynjr | my camera blows |
| 03:05.33 | gerrynjr | http://www.blueimpulsestudios.com/images/mite.jpg |
| 03:05.37 | gerrynjr | that's how bad it blows |
| 03:05.38 | W8TVI | ibot mites |
| 03:05.39 | | mites are little white things that live in gerrynjr's zaurus |
| 03:06.33 | absentia | no |
| 03:06.38 | absentia | user error |
| 03:06.47 | gerrynjr | no... it's a POS |
| 03:06.53 | gerrynjr | kodak dc200 |
| 03:06.56 | gerrynjr | no zoom |
| 03:07.11 | gerrynjr | absentia> it's not of UFOs! |
| 03:07.11 | absentia | mine has 14x optical zoom |
| 03:07.18 | gerrynjr | absentia> mine is 6 years old! |
| 03:07.25 | gerrynjr | wait.. |
| 03:07.28 | absentia | I took a pic of the surface of the moon from 30,000 ft over berlin |
| 03:07.29 | gerrynjr | (double checking) |
| 03:07.32 | absentia | mine too |
| 03:07.36 | W8TVI | mine has 10x optical zoom |
| 03:07.40 | absentia | fd91 |
| 03:07.43 | absentia | mavica |
| 03:07.51 | W8TVI | and mine is 3 years old |
| 03:08.06 | absentia | ahhhh |
| 03:08.07 | gerrynjr | kodak dc 200 |
| 03:08.08 | W8TVI | olympus C700UZ |
| 03:08.10 | absentia | i have a server up |
| 03:08.11 | gerrynjr | 1 mega pixel |
| 03:08.17 | absentia | I can put up some pics |
| 03:08.17 | W8TVI | 2.1MP |
| 03:08.57 | W8TVI | http://the-collective.net/~kb8sjt/zaurus/zaurus/jpg |
| 03:09.02 | W8TVI | http://the-collective.net/~kb8sjt/zaurus/zaurus.jpg |
| 03:09.34 | W8TVI | thats a pic of some dust on my zaurus |
| 03:09.48 | W8TVI | running macro |
| 03:09.58 | gerrynjr | I don't have macro! |
| 03:11.00 | gerrynjr | my dad has a nicer camera... |
| 03:11.05 | gerrynjr | see those @ www.nfnnet.org |
| 03:11.23 | absentia | shit |
| 03:11.43 | absentia | and that's the second worst ufo pic I've ever seen! |
| 03:11.51 | gerrynjr | where's the worst? |
| 03:12.02 | absentia | yours |
| 03:12.13 | gerrynjr | http://www2.nfnnet.org:8001/gallery/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=album01&id=06290048_G |
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| 03:12.42 | W8TVI | absentia: http://the-collective.net/~kb8sjt/ |
| 03:12.54 | gerrynjr | http://www2.nfnnet.org:8001/gallery/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=album03&id=07010042_G |
| 03:13.17 | gerrynjr | http://www2.nfnnet.org:8001/gallery/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=album03&id=07010027_G |
| 03:14.28 | absentia | nada on opera on the zaurus |
| 03:14.31 | absentia | no image |
| 03:14.38 | conundrum | lol funny cat W8TVI |
| 03:14.52 | W8TVI | :) |
| 03:16.49 | conundrum | W8TVI: You installed xmms -e to RAM? Using what packages? |
| 03:17.01 | conundrum | And where do you store your files? |
| 03:17.19 | W8TVI | the ones I gave you the link to |
| 03:17.28 | W8TVI | and I store them on a CF card |
| 03:17.40 | conundrum | All of them? |
| 03:17.52 | W8TVI | yep |
| 03:18.18 | conundrum | OK, so in theory this has to work. |
| 03:18.21 | absentia | funny cat? |
| 03:18.24 | conundrum | Same ROM, same storage methods. |
| 03:20.35 | gerrynjr | my penguin pic roxorz |
| 03:20.57 | absentia | 69.13.149.159/florida/day1/edits |
| 03:21.27 | absentia | bface1 was walking 50 yards away |
| 03:21.37 | absentia | that was betwwen two palm trees ... |
| 03:21.43 | absentia | full zoom |
| 03:22.13 | W8TVI | absentia: http://the-collective.net/~kb8sjt/album/pa203039.jpg |
| 03:22.32 | gerrynjr | absentia> your wife? |
| 03:22.38 | absentia | b2sun1 is a second freakin' marriage couple at the same florida hotel... at the same time |
| 03:22.45 | absentia | they were not posing for me. |
| 03:22.54 | absentia | I was just taking random pics of them. |
| 03:22.56 | gerrynjr | lmfao |
| 03:23.10 | gerrynjr | she was sticking her toungue in her cheek |
| 03:23.13 | gerrynjr | lmfao |
| 03:23.40 | gerrynjr | I still think the "gathering" of penguins is cool |
| 03:23.48 | conundrum | Anyway to find out what application is using my SD card? |
| 03:24.11 | absentia | gathering? |
| 03:24.19 | absentia | ya, Ill find some pics of my cat |
| 03:24.27 | absentia | ever seen the earnie post cards? |
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| 03:24.54 | treke|laptop | TimRiker |
| 03:24.59 | W8TVI | TimRikerZ: |
| 03:26.06 | W8TVI | dont you mean 0.2? |
| 03:26.27 | kergoth`bbl | TimRikerZ: tried opie-irc? |
| 03:26.36 | conundrum | hello kergoth. |
| 03:26.40 | kergoth | hey |
| 03:26.56 | TimRikerZ | server list on startup is too small and I can't edit the entries |
| 03:27.07 | TimRikerZ | er yeah 0.2 |
| 03:27.28 | conundrum | Grab the source and work on it... |
| 03:28.54 | absentia | con: good one! |
| 03:29.05 | conundrum | absentia: Sarcasm? |
| 03:30.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:30.08 | kergoth | like .. bzflag! |
| 03:30.35 | TimRikerZ | heh |
| 03:31.05 | conundrum | Hrmm, with xmms-e installed I'll only have ~400k left on / |
| 03:32.22 | absentia | con: yes, very much so. |
| 03:32.47 | conundrum | Thanks absentia, always nice to be loved. |
| 03:33.01 | W8TVI | conundrum: dont install it in root, install it in RAM |
| 03:33.22 | conundrum | Aww crap. |
| 03:33.41 | absentia | wasn't anything bad.. or bad on or to you. |
| 03:34.01 | conundrum | absentia: Don't worry, takes alot to offend me. |
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| 03:34.38 | conundrum | TimRikerC750: I bet you want to give that to me... |
| 03:34.39 | TimRikerC750 | different |
| 03:34.46 | TimRikerC750 | uh... |
| 03:34.49 | conundrum | lol |
| 03:34.50 | TimRikerC750 | nope |
| 03:35.01 | absentia | con: me too |
| 03:35.11 | TimRikerC750 | snice |
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| 03:35.36 | TimRikerC750 | ~brando |
| 03:35.37 | | well, brando is sells/exports the Sharp Zaurus and other electronics http://shop.brando.com.hk/ or mailto:brando@brando.com.hk. C700 $500, C750 $525, C760 $610 USD, (and $45 shipping via fedex) use email for zaurus orders, or plus shipping, or no warranty and japanese sortware. |
| 03:36.40 | conundrum | OK W8TVI, RAM it is. |
| 03:36.51 | conundrum | ~6000 |
| 03:37.07 | conundrum | Hrmm, links for the new model? |
| 03:37.16 | TimRikerZ | you can have time and no money or money and no time, except when you are a student, then you have no time and no money |
| 03:37.36 | gerrynjr | TimRikerZ> amen |
| 03:37.43 | gerrynjr | TimRikerZ> I get just enough money to pay insuarance... |
| 03:37.46 | gerrynjr | which sucks |
| 03:37.53 | gerrynjr | I cant do anything... |
| 03:38.00 | gerrynjr | but pay insuarance |
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| 03:38.06 | gerrynjr | cant even enjoy life |
| 03:38.07 | gerrynjr | it blows |
| 03:38.14 | gerrynjr | and the Z I got has mites in it |
| 03:38.17 | gerrynjr | :-( |
| 03:38.41 | conundrum | gerrynjr: Pay the 70. |
| 03:39.13 | TimRikerC750 | well, I like the server list in opie-irc, but the main screen is worse |
| 03:39.21 | treke|la1top | irssi. |
| 03:39.22 | treke|la1top | :p |
| 03:39.36 | absentia | ircii |
| 03:39.43 | treke|la1top | irssi |
| 03:39.51 | absentia | is there an irssi on killefiz? |
| 03:39.56 | treke|la1top | dunno |
| 03:40.09 | conundrum | ibot: SL-6000 is http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=77&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 03:40.13 | | ...but sl-6000 is already something else... |
| 03:40.18 | conundrum | oh, ok then. |
| 03:40.25 | gerrynjr | ibot> sl6000 |
| 03:40.28 | | gerrynjr: wish i knew |
| 03:40.35 | gerrynjr | ibot> sl-6000 |
| 03:40.36 | | from memory, sl-6000 is another rumoured name for the rumoured SL-5600 |
| 03:40.47 | gerrynjr | ibot> SL-6000 |
| 03:40.49 | | i guess sl-6000 is another rumoured name for the rumoured SL-5600 |
| 03:40.56 | gerrynjr | ibot> SL-5600 |
| 03:40.57 | | hmm... sl-5600 is the newest zaurus, announced Nov12. More info available at http://www.sharpusa.com/products/FunctionPressReleases/0,1079,32,00.html and http://www.sharpusa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,1016,00.html and photos available at http://psifertex.com/gallery/sl5600, or http://www.sharpusa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,1027,00.html |
| 03:40.58 | conundrum | O.o |
| 03:41.14 | W8TVI | ibot no, SL-6000 is http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=77&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 03:41.16 | | W8TVI: okay |
| 03:41.16 | conundrum | Can his list be updated? |
| 03:41.19 | absentia | tim |
| 03:41.23 | absentia | that's what I do |
| 03:41.24 | conundrum | Guess so lol |
| 03:41.29 | absentia | i have it under screen |
| 03:41.35 | absentia | its the best |
| 03:41.40 | absentia | even beats it under vnc |
| 03:41.44 | TimRikerZ | heh |
| 03:41.50 | conundrum | Moment of truth W8TVI. |
| 03:41.55 | TimRikerZ | kid crying... later |
| 03:42.21 | conundrum | Nothin. |
| 03:42.27 | conundrum | No sound. |
| 03:42.33 | conundrum | No progress. |
| 03:43.04 | W8TVI | conundrum: it just WORKED for me |
| 03:51.58 | conundrum | W8TVI: Could you be so kind as to make a backup of your device and send it to me? |
| 03:52.11 | conundrum | Maybe I've done something slightly different and ruined it all. |
| 03:57.49 | absentia | lovely |
| 03:58.05 | absentia | that pywt program crahed the z so bad, I had to pull the battery. |
| 03:58.18 | conundrum | Don't you just love those crashes? |
| 03:58.29 | W8TVI | conundrum: what I did was flashed rom from: http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/initrds/OZ-Opie-1.02/ |
| 03:58.37 | conundrum | Allocation? |
| 03:58.41 | W8TVI | I used http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/initrds/OZ-Opie-1.02/zImage-2.4.6-5500-40memory-24storage.bin |
| 03:58.50 | conundrum | alright |
| 03:58.53 | W8TVI | download a fresh copy of it |
| 03:59.14 | W8TVI | and... |
| 03:59.55 | W8TVI | from here: http://xmms-embedded.sourceforge.net/feed/oz32/ |
| 04:00.38 | W8TVI | install everything but sound-modules_2.4.6-rmk1-np2-embedix-5a_collie.ipk and zlib1g_1.1.4-2_armv4l-strongarm.ipk |
| 04:01.05 | W8TVI | oh, and libglib1.2_1.2.10-2_armv4l-strongarm.ipk |
| 04:01.12 | W8TVI | leave those 3 out |
| 04:01.52 | W8TVI | conundrum: all right? |
| 04:02.00 | conundrum | W8TVI: OK! |
| 04:02.09 | W8TVI | conundrum: GOOD! |
| 04:02.16 | conundrum | W8TVI: SUPER! |
| 04:02.24 | W8TVI | conundrum: WONDERFUL! |
| 04:02.32 | conundrum | W8TVI: SPECTACULAR! |
| 04:02.39 | W8TVI | conundrum: SHUT UP! |
| 04:02.55 | conundrum | lol |
| 04:03.37 | conundrum | It's ok if i have more than zImage and intrid.bin on the card, right? |
| 04:03.42 | W8TVI | no |
| 04:03.49 | W8TVI | you only want one set in the root |
| 04:03.58 | W8TVI | move the others off to another dir |
| 04:04.05 | W8TVI | but its better to have only one set |
| 04:04.27 | conundrum | OK, i've got 2 cf cards so no big. |
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| 04:06.04 | absentia | hmmm |
| 04:06.10 | absentia | these pyqt examples suck |
| 04:11.04 | cyn | heh absentia i was just looking around at what gui toolkits are avail for python |
| 04:11.30 | cyn | PyGTK is nice but it's not immmediately evident that it's easily bundled in a windows app |
| 04:11.39 | cyn | aka it looks like it's not |
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| 04:28.48 | conundrum | moment of truth round 2 |
| 04:29.25 | conundrum | lol, it works |
| 04:30.36 | conundrum | Thanks W8TVI, I guess I can forgiev you for throwing that TCP/IP Specifications book at me now. :P |
| 04:31.22 | W8TVI | heh |
| 04:32.00 | conundrum | Walk Away by epidemic never sounded so good :P |
| 04:32.14 | conundrum | Ha! |
| 04:32.20 | W8TVI | unplug your head[hones |
| 04:32.27 | conundrum | lol |
| 04:32.34 | W8TVI | do it |
| 04:32.39 | W8TVI | and listen |
| 04:32.53 | conundrum | It doesn't have a speaker dude, it would sound like shit |
| 04:33.11 | W8TVI | but it does play |
| 04:33.12 | dhr | conundrum: so was the problem purely and simply using 1.02 (which I've just flashed on my 5500 today)? |
| 04:33.20 | conundrum | Yea, so it does. |
| 04:33.31 | conundrum | dhr: No idea. |
| 04:33.59 | conundrum | just follow W8TVI's instructions for xmms and it should work fine. |
| 04:34.41 | conundrum | That new sl 6000 looks sweet...I hope it will be cheaper than the c7X0s |
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| 05:02.51 | conundrum | Any reason why some libs or applications won't link from /mnt/card to /? |
| 05:05.00 | conundrum | Is it because some programs are designed to run off the RAM or storage? |
| 05:05.13 | conundrum | Nevermind, dumb question. |
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| 05:34.38 | Luke-Jr | Anyone know how long my Z will last if I overwrite a 32 MB file every day? |
| 05:35.31 | Luke-Jr | approximately |
| 05:37.20 | W8TVI | there is only 16mb of flash |
| 05:37.46 | W8TVI | and if you you are talking about the ram disk, I'd say it'll last a good long time |
| 05:37.48 | Luke-Jr | 128 MB |
| 05:37.54 | Luke-Jr | on C760 |
| 05:37.58 | W8TVI | ah |
| 05:38.15 | Luke-Jr | conundrum: ... |
| 05:38.34 | vvff- | aol |
| 05:38.41 | conundrum | lol |
| 05:38.51 | conundrum | I have the whore of Zaurii |
| 05:39.11 | W8TVI | when I get a job and the sl-6000 comes out, I'll have the coolest zaurus |
| 05:39.17 | W8TVI | lol |
| 05:39.32 | conundrum | Yea, wonder how much it will cost. :/ |
| 05:39.42 | W8TVI | I'd say about $600 |
| 05:39.55 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: I don't think I could use a non-clamshell |
| 05:40.01 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: no idea as far as flash lifetime tho? |
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| 05:40.23 | conundrum | Luke-Jr: Until it stops working. |
| 05:40.29 | W8TVI | I'd say from what I have heard, you should get about 10k wites |
| 05:40.41 | conundrum | Why not use a CF or SD card? |
| 05:40.47 | W8TVI | but if I were you, I'd use an SD card |
| 05:40.56 | Luke-Jr | Is there some gotcha that prevents it from lasting 25 years then? =p |
| 05:41.01 | conundrum | All my shits reinstalled and xmms still works. :D |
| 05:41.06 | Luke-Jr | 10k writes == 25 years if 1/day |
| 05:41.11 | ljp | its moer then 10k writes |
| 05:41.11 | W8TVI | :) |
| 05:41.27 | Luke-Jr | ljp: so my Z should easilly last 25 yrs before I get flash write errs? |
| 05:41.33 | conundrum | This thing has a sweet sound card. |
| 05:41.34 | ljp | sure |
| 05:41.42 | Luke-Jr | hrr |
| 05:41.46 | conundrum | hey ljp, you built 3.3.4, right? |
| 05:41.46 | Luke-Jr | conundrum: what does? |
| 05:42.02 | conundrum | Sl-5500, im used to a stupid palm and realone :/ |
| 05:42.04 | Luke-Jr | my Z's speaker, at least, sucks =p |
| 05:42.06 | ljp | yes |
| 05:42.19 | W8TVI | cool |
| 05:42.24 | W8TVI | I want a yopy to mess with |
| 05:42.29 | W8TVI | "The YOPY departs from the standard "sync" approach. The thrust of this is that your data remains on the YOPY at all times; there's no Outlook hotsync here. You connect the the YOPY via your web browser, not a proprietary program, and when the YOPY is connected and alive, you have access to an HTML-based PIM Suite (Do List, Calendar, Notes, etc) as well as backups, and FTP for file transfer. This may sound a bit strange, but it really is very |
| 05:42.29 | W8TVI | clever. I think that as small computers become more powerful, this type of connectivity will become more important. There's no fundamental reason (as far as I can see) why one shouldn't connect to the YOPY's X server from a desktop machine and use the YOPY at 1280x1024 resolution when docked. This would be a killer feature if it's possible." |
| 05:42.31 | Luke-Jr | yopy lack kb, IIRC |
| 05:42.53 | W8TVI | Luke-Jr:http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=1689&showComments=true |
| 05:43.07 | conundrum | Any idea why it's made a habbit of randomly ignoring symlinks to anything on my SD card? |
| 05:43.11 | W8TVI | yopy's use linux |
| 05:43.21 | W8TVI | and it has a keyboard |
| 05:43.22 | Luke-Jr | so hard to get ICS working on windoze |
| 05:43.28 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: they do?? |
| 05:43.32 | kergoth | ICS isnt hard to get working. |
| 05:43.34 | W8TVI | conundrum: what format is the sd card? |
| 05:43.40 | Luke-Jr | kergoth: it is in my experience |
| 05:43.50 | conundrum | Meant to say it's ext2. |
| 05:43.52 | Luke-Jr | kergoth: it never wants to share w/ Z's network |
| 05:43.58 | W8TVI | Luke-Jr: read that review of it |
| 05:44.05 | kergoth | odd. its always worked fine for me |
| 05:44.05 | W8TVI | Luke-Jr: just get a wifi card |
| 05:44.24 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: is that... GTK??? |
| 05:44.34 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: assuming I have wifi access |
| 05:44.34 | W8TVI | its X windows |
| 05:44.36 | kergoth | W8TVI: that build is still going. i think every version of every package in the OE metadata repos is building now |
| 05:44.44 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: but the GTK-looking windows aren't ugly! |
| 05:44.57 | W8TVI | kergoth: cool |
| 05:44.57 | Luke-Jr | kergoth: hrr... these are XP systems I've tried on |
| 05:45.04 | Luke-Jr | kergoth: what have you tried? |
| 05:45.10 | kergoth | both 2k and xp |
| 05:45.22 | kergoth | and 98, though it was a proxy there :P |
| 05:45.24 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: ah... I think Yopy kb is weirdish, no? |
| 05:45.31 | W8TVI | no... |
| 05:45.38 | W8TVI | its just like the sl5500 |
| 05:45.40 | W8TVI | but better |
| 05:45.40 | Luke-Jr | kergoth: maybe it's just the particular systems I'm trying |
| 05:45.49 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: looks out of place w/ keys |
| 05:46.00 | W8TVI | http://www.bargainpda.com/assets/yopy/yp3700-open.jpg |
| 05:46.04 | ChipX86|Coding | hmm... yopy-gaim.. |
| 05:46.47 | kergoth | ljp: i've done builds in cygwin.. but not normally :) |
| 05:47.02 | conundrum | I like Psi. |
| 05:47.20 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: I like C760's kb better than Yopy's... |
| 05:47.28 | W8TVI | I think I would too |
| 05:47.29 | ChipX86|Coding | Psi is good, but not really the same thing. Gaim will soon be the core behind a lot of IM clients |
| 05:47.49 | Luke-Jr | ChipX86|Coding: No, Psi doesn't support obsolete IM protocols. But that's fine with me. =p |
| 05:48.02 | ChipX86|Coding | cheap shot, Luke |
| 05:48.05 | conundrum | ljp: No idea? |
| 05:48.24 | ljp | ? |
| 05:48.35 | Luke-Jr | W8TVI: ...? |
| 05:48.51 | conundrum | <conundrum> Any idea why it's made a habbit of randomly ignoring symlinks to anything on my SD card? |
| 05:49.13 | kergoth | "ignoring"? |
| 05:49.22 | conundrum | W8TVI likes hurting people with TCP/IP specification manuals. |
| 05:49.34 | Luke-Jr | o |
| 05:49.48 | conundrum | kergoth: The card is still mounted, but all the installed applications dissappear from the launcher. |
| 05:50.06 | conundrum | And I can't write to it. |
| 05:50.14 | kergoth | so the card's mounted read only? |
| 05:50.19 | kergoth | if you ls /mnt/card, does it error? |
| 05:50.37 | conundrum | No, I can pull the card up in File manager and everything. |
| 05:50.52 | kergoth | i'd unmount the card and fsck it |
| 05:50.56 | kergoth | make sure it doesnt have errors |
| 05:51.17 | conundrum | If it was mounted read only wouldn't i still be able to get at the apps already installed? |
| 05:51.20 | conundrum | Yea. |
| 05:51.32 | kergoth | yes |
| 05:51.41 | kergoth | that doesnt mean errors arent still the issue |
| 05:51.42 | kergoth | definately fsck it |
| 05:52.19 | conundrum | OK. |
| 05:53.26 | conundrum | Quite a few erros. |
| 05:53.47 | conundrum | .3% non contiguous. |
| 05:54.31 | conundrum | Told it to repair, guess you'll be hearing from me tomorrow if it didn't work. :P |
| 05:54.37 | kergoth | heheh |
| 05:54.51 | conundrum | Thanks kergoth! |
| 05:55.17 | W8TVI | what is the device name that I want to tell fsck to check the sd card? |
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| 05:56.15 | conundrum | W8TVI: umount /mnt/card |
| 05:56.22 | W8TVI | I did |
| 05:56.22 | conundrum | fsck /dev/mmcda1 |
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| 05:56.38 | W8TVI | tnx |
| 05:56.41 | conundrum | NP. |
| 05:56.44 | conundrum | ;) |
| 05:56.46 | ljp_z | sure.. np |
| 05:57.03 | kergoth | jeeze that build is still going |
| 05:58.11 | ljp_z | hmmm... its almost a weekend |
| 05:58.44 | ChipX86|Coding | yeah.. it's about time :) |
| 05:59.38 | ljp_z | aqpkg doesnt like to update packages file is it has changed on the server |
| 05:59.58 | kergoth | ljp_z: eh, you mean wget? |
| 06:00.09 | ljp_z | dunno |
| 06:00.17 | kergoth | aqpkg calls ipkg, ipkg calls wget |
| 06:00.19 | ljp_z | whatever .. |
| 06:00.24 | ljp_z | ahhh |
| 06:00.29 | ljp_z | lame |
| 06:00.34 | kergoth | somebody caching it? |
| 06:01.18 | ljp_z | i should go home early, sine i,m not really doing anything other than opie stuff |
| 06:01.43 | ljp_z | hmm |
| 06:02.40 | ljp_z | on opies next build system, there should be an option to just build the packages |
| 06:03.01 | ljp_z | and not build launcher stuff |
| 06:03.25 | ljp_z | so I can smuggle them over to qtopia easier |
| 06:03.30 | kergoth | its all going to use oe |
| 06:03.31 | W8TVI | ibot brando |
| 06:03.33 | | it has been said that brando is sells/exports the Sharp Zaurus and other electronics http://shop.brando.com.hk/ or mailto:brando@brando.com.hk. C700 $500, C750 $525, C760 $610 USD, (and $45 shipping via fedex) use email for zaurus orders, or plus shipping, or no warranty and japanese sortware. |
| 06:03.35 | kergoth | so itll be a breeze |
| 06:03.39 | kergoth | oebuild libqpe/libqpe.oe |
| 06:03.43 | kergoth | whatever |
| 06:03.52 | ChipX86|Coding | nice |
| 06:04.30 | ljp_z | who wants to bet on how long it is till sharp releases source for sl6000 |
| 06:04.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:04.42 | kergoth | god, remember waiting for the 5000d sources.. |
| 06:04.47 | ljp_z | any wagers? |
| 06:05.16 | ljp_z | I am still waiting for an updated 5000d rom |
| 06:07.35 | ljp_z | someone needs to adopt konqe |
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| 06:09.09 | W8TVI | where on the brando website are they selling sharp pdas?\ |
| 06:09.20 | treke|laptop | they dont |
| 06:09.28 | treke|laptop | email him and say you want to buy one :) |
| 06:09.33 | W8TVI | ah |
| 06:09.33 | W8TVI | lol |
| 06:09.49 | treke|laptop | He just orders one when someone buys one |
| 06:09.56 | W8TVI | cool |
| 06:10.45 | W8TVI | wish I had the money to get a c760... |
| 06:11.00 | W8TVI | but I'd have to sell my 5000d and 5500 |
| 06:11.28 | W8TVI | and I want to keep them |
| 06:11.41 | W8TVI | and I'd have to sell my sony pda too |
| 06:11.42 | kergoth | damnit |
| 06:11.47 | kergoth | bluez-utils failed |
| 06:11.58 | ljp_z | bluez is a pain |
| 06:12.04 | W8TVI | not on the laptop! |
| 06:12.07 | imk | i have a weird issue with openzaurus... i cant ssh to it or connect to it unless i make an outgoing connection first from the Z |
| 06:12.19 | kergoth | odd, never heard of that happening |
| 06:12.20 | W8TVI | werid |
| 06:12.25 | imk | like if i try to ssh to it, it fails to connect, then i ping a host on my Z, then i can ssh to my Z and login |
| 06:12.34 | ljp_z | security settings? |
| 06:12.53 | kergoth | yeah, could have a firewall on your desktop thats interfering |
| 06:13.21 | imk | nah, no firewall on my desktop |
| 06:13.28 | imk | and i even set my security settings to Any |
| 06:14.03 | ljp_z | kergoth: you have windows at your office desk? |
| 06:14.06 | kergoth | well, its somethign odd in your environment |
| 06:14.16 | kergoth | ljp_z: at my office desk i have my work lappie |
| 06:14.16 | imk | hmm |
| 06:14.17 | ljp_z | hotplug maybe |
| 06:14.18 | kergoth | with is dual boot |
| 06:14.25 | kergoth | my desktop at home is winxp for gaming |
| 06:14.53 | ljp_z | i mean window.. like a glass thing to see outside |
| 06:14.59 | ljp_z | hehehehe |
| 06:15.00 | kergoth | ah |
| 06:15.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:15.13 | kergoth | yeah, our row of cubes is next to the windows on the 4th floor |
| 06:15.28 | ljp_z | I dont recall too many windows there |
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| 06:17.33 | ljp_z | my office is a corner of the building with 4 big windows |
| 06:17.43 | kergoth | nice |
| 06:17.55 | W8TVI | he has an Office?! |
| 06:18.02 | ljp_z | hehehe |
| 06:18.06 | ljp_z | yup |
| 06:18.36 | ljp_z | and a desk |
| 06:18.47 | W8TVI | and all you do is listen to the comunity bitch about how sucky qte is akk day? |
| 06:19.10 | ljp_z | no.I tune that out ;) |
| 06:20.20 | treke|laptop | <ljp_z> Qte is good. Qte is good. |
| 06:20.59 | ljp_z | qte is all you need |
| 06:21.17 | ljp_z | i mean... qtopia is.. |
| 06:22.51 | conundrum | No! OZ is all you need. XD |
| 06:28.51 | ljp_z | nope. qtopia is |
| 06:37.37 | treke|laptop | 2qtopia is for trolls |
| 06:38.55 | W8TVI | I want one of these: http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/LCD_20Desk#1050171645 |
| 06:46.29 | imk | the testing and unstable feeds were removed? |
| 06:47.02 | treke|laptop | yes |
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| 06:47.22 | dhr | W8TVI: trying to understand what you told conumdrum to get sound working. |
| 06:47.22 | imk | hmm |
| 06:47.30 | imk | did anything replace them? |
| 06:47.41 | treke|laptop | nope. They werent removed purposefully |
| 06:47.42 | W8TVI | dhr: ??? |
| 06:47.47 | imk | doh |
| 06:47.54 | dhr | You installed some abount of old stuff on top of new stuff, right? |
| 06:48.02 | W8TVI | no |
| 06:48.21 | dhr | (old == OZ 3.2; new == OZ 3.3.4) |
| 06:49.04 | W8TVI | no |
| 06:49.09 | W8TVI | no old stuff |
| 06:49.23 | imk | im still using opie 1.0 and oz 3.2 |
| 06:49.27 | imk | my Z has a 48 day uptime |
| 06:49.28 | imk | hehe |
| 06:49.34 | W8TVI | just go get xmms-e |
| 06:49.37 | W8TVI | and install it |
| 06:49.54 | W8TVI | there are 3 files that are libs |
| 06:49.59 | dhr | isn't http://xmms-embedded.sourceforge.net/feed/oz32/ old stuff? |
| 06:50.02 | W8TVI | you leave thost off |
| 06:50.10 | W8TVI | dhr: no |
| 06:50.29 | imk | june 15 |
| 06:50.32 | imk | i'd say old |
| 06:50.32 | imk | :P |
| 06:52.06 | W8TVI | just download everything but, libglib1.2_1.2.10-2_armv4l-strongarm.ipk & sound-modules_2.4.6-rmk1-np2-embedix-5a_collie.ipk & zlib1g_1.1.4-2_armv4l-strongarm.ipk & xmms-e-skin-macosx_0.00007-1_armv4l-strongarm.ipk and install it |
| 06:52.21 | W8TVI | it works on the 3.3.4 OZ |
| 06:52.31 | W8TVI | thats all there is to it. |
| 06:52.42 | W8TVI | if you cant understand that, then I cant help you |
| 06:54.21 | dhr | I think I can follow those directions, thanks. Do you have a theory that explains why this works? |
| 06:54.44 | W8TVI | becouse I said so? :P |
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| 08:12.05 | dhr | what is the theory behind the "jumpx" layout of the multikey keyboard? |
| 08:12.18 | treke|laptop | The theory is that it's more efficient |
| 08:12.51 | dhr | I seem to remember there being a keyboard for Unicode. How do I get it? |
| 08:13.05 | treke|laptop | install the unicode inputmethod |
| 08:13.09 | treke|laptop | if it's still built |
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| 08:26.17 | dhr | the unicode input method is in opie-unikeyboard |
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| 10:19.36 | jdh41 | can I persuade someone with a working buildroot to run find ./ -name "jpeglib.h" and tell me where its supposed to be |
| 10:23.13 | Twiun | jdh41: is it Qt complaining? |
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| 10:26.04 | lpotter | $ find ./ -name "jpeglib.h" |
| 10:26.04 | lpotter | ./build/opie/core/multimedia/opieplayer/libflash/jpeglib.h |
| 10:26.04 | lpotter | ./build/jpeg-6b/jpeglib.h |
| 10:26.04 | lpotter | ./output/staging/include/jpeglib.h |
| 10:27.41 | Twiun | I'm thinking it's the host Qt build which is complaining |
| 10:27.48 | Twiun | I had that too when I started |
| 10:28.14 | Twiun | the solution for that is to install your host's libjpeg-devel packages |
| 10:36.20 | jdh41 | lpotter: thanks |
| 10:36.47 | jdh41 | Twiun: was indeed |
| 10:43.55 | Twiun | jdh41: and to think that host qt is only needed to generate uic and moc |
| 10:44.10 | Twiun | lpotter: do uic and moc _really_ need all of qt? |
| 10:44.31 | lpotter | uic needs to be built as x11 from 2.3.2 |
| 10:44.32 | Twiun | lpotter: couldn't we switch off things like image handling? |
| 10:45.09 | lpotter | moc is dependant on the qte version |
| 10:46.07 | Twiun | I meant, do uic and moc, in the functions they exist to fulfill really need *all* of qt/x11 built? |
| 10:46.29 | lpotter | not sure, I'd have to look at the code |
| 10:46.45 | Twiun | let's turn them into perl scripts ;) |
| 10:48.04 | lpotter | hmmm |
| 10:48.16 | lpotter | go ahead |
| 10:48.33 | Twiun | why did I *know* you were going to say that ;) |
| 10:48.54 | Twiun | I'll add it to my wishtodo I suppose |
| 10:49.10 | Twiun | already got work scheduled until 2005... |
| 10:53.38 | Wintre | twiun: You could of course just try changing to the right directory and making uic and moc explicitly |
| 10:54.09 | Twiun | Wintre: good point. I wonder why the buildroot doesn't already do this |
| 11:10.41 | jdh41 | hmm, buildroot seems to try and use version 1.4.3-5 of libtool, but it don't seem to be the right version anymore, do I want 1.5-7 or 1.4.3 or something else? |
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| 11:35.39 | jdh41 | interesting error: /bin/sh: line 1: scripts/mkdep: Argument list too long |
| 11:35.43 | jdh41 | how do I fix it? |
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| 11:38.58 | Twiun | jdh41: building the kernel I take it |
| 11:39.12 | Twiun | jdh41: move your buildroot closer to / |
| 11:39.19 | Twiun | jdh41: I had that problem too |
| 11:39.36 | Twiun | it's a limitation in the kernel makefile |
| 11:40.37 | jdh41 | ew |
| 11:43.45 | jdh41 | he hopes... |
| 11:46.19 | Twiun | didn't try that one ;) |
| 11:47.28 | jdh41 | nope, it seems to hang around on the hard filenames |
| 11:47.46 | jdh41 | it works now, or at least doesn't crap out at the same part anymore |
| 11:47.55 | jdh41 | does the 2.4.21 kernel compile properly yet? |
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| 12:00.42 | Twiun | I don't know what stage it's at atm |
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| 13:47.32 | yeiazel | hey... does someone have a vector version of the Z logo ? |
| 13:56.48 | cyn | vector victor |
| 13:59.31 | n_flag | has there been a date set for the SL-6000 release? |
| 14:02.39 | absentia | re |
| 14:02.41 | absentia | morn' |
| 14:03.36 | jdh41 | hm, and now tremor is compaling I don't have automake installed. depite the contrary |
| 14:08.10 | cyn | jdh41: prolly poor detection script |
| 14:08.15 | cyn | or env vars missing maybe |
| 14:09.16 | jdh41 | the test it uses works fine outside of the script |
| 14:09.32 | jdh41 | (automake --version) < /dev/null > /dev/null 2>&1 || { crap out and die } |
| 14:09.55 | jdh41 | must be envvars or soemthing |
| 14:11.00 | jdh41 | hmm, script runs fine outside of make on teh buildroot |
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| 14:37.01 | absentia | man it's nice getting 1.5MB/sec download |
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| 14:51.15 | George- | absentia: you sod. |
| 14:51.24 | George- | absentia: 12mbit connection or something? |
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| 14:54.33 | absentia | dunno |
| 14:54.37 | absentia | new colo box I bought. |
| 14:54.53 | absentia | 1000GB a month upload from it... and I just xferred an ISO to it... and was getting sustained 1.5MB/sec |
| 14:55.03 | absentia | I think it's in texas somewhere. |
| 14:55.32 | absentia | http://www.cihost.com/cheap_web_hosting/ |
| 14:57.23 | Twiun | ah, yes, Texas. The centre of the world. |
| 14:58.02 | absentia | well, they have other locations |
| 14:58.11 | absentia | but the crazy deals are only good there, or so I thought I was told. |
| 14:58.13 | absentia | doesn't matter tome. |
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| 15:01.30 | absentia | heheh |
| 15:01.43 | absentia | http://www.zaurususergroup.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=1664#1664 |
| 15:01.46 | absentia | hope he doesn't get upset at me. |
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| 15:11.06 | Twiun | Hahahaha |
| 15:11.17 | absentia | :-) |
| 15:18.56 | absentia | 3 difeerent models |
| 15:18.56 | absentia | a ) SL-6000N will include no wireless networking capabilities |
| 15:18.56 | absentia | b ) SL-6000L will have built-in Wi-Fi |
| 15:18.57 | absentia | c ) SL-6000W will have both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth |
| 15:19.50 | Twiun | hmmm... that implies the hardware's pluggable |
| 15:21.04 | absentia | http://www.brighthand.com/article/Sharp_Unveils_Zaurus_SL-6000 |
| 15:22.44 | jdh41 | any ideas on: checking for suffix of object files... configure: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile while compiling glibc? |
| 15:23.18 | absentia | 2/c |
| 15:24.00 | Twiun | jdh41: that's a new one on me |
| 15:24.16 | Twiun | jdh41: which glibc version? |
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| 15:33.02 | Luce13B | hello |
| 15:33.17 | Luce13B | my dear Zauri friends |
| 15:33.26 | Luce13B | geee .. there is a lot of you here |
| 15:33.41 | Luce13B | hope to have a good discution |
| 15:33.48 | Luce13B | need some advice .. |
| 15:33.53 | Luce13B | i am a n00b |
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| 15:34.03 | Luce13B | got a SL5500 |
| 15:34.20 | Luce13B | and i am in need of storage space |
| 15:34.24 | absentia | CF card? |
| 15:34.32 | Luce13B | SD vs CF |
| 15:34.38 | Luce13B | what one is faster ? |
| 15:34.56 | Luce13B | what one is ment for frequent reads / writes |
| 15:35.22 | absentia | to me... CF is cheaper... and you can get larger sizes for it |
| 15:35.30 | Luce13B | i want to move the OS on the card ... so i can use the 64MB for opperations |
| 15:35.39 | absentia | but, on my 7x0 models, I have to put WIFI in Cf, so I have 512MB sd... but SD seems to have some issues here and there (heavy load, etc). |
| 15:35.46 | absentia | I don't know about that... |
| 15:36.09 | Luce13B | yeah ... i have couple of digital cameras ... |
| 15:36.17 | Luce13B | the SD screws up sometimes ... |
| 15:36.27 | Luce13B | i lost my pictures couple of times because of that |
| 15:37.09 | Luce13B | that is why i am interested in the CF card .. |
| 15:37.12 | absentia | ok |
| 15:37.34 | Luce13B | there is a company that makes 128MB CF with WiFi ( all in one ) |
| 15:37.45 | Luce13B | but not sure if it works for the Zaurus ( yet ) |
| 15:38.04 | Luce13B | last i read from a google search ... it did not work |
| 15:38.44 | absentia | ya |
| 15:39.30 | Luce13B | is there no one else that makes combo cards ? |
| 15:39.55 | Luce13B | now ... how about SD WiFi cards ? |
| 15:39.59 | Luce13B | is there such a thing ? |
| 15:40.10 | Twiun | yeah, such things are called SDIO cards |
| 15:40.17 | absentia | I saw a wifi sd card, but I think that's even less supported than wifi cf cards ... if you know what I mean |
| 15:40.18 | Twiun | and they don't work in Zauruses |
| 15:40.35 | Twiun | it's a hardware limitation iirc |
| 15:40.45 | Twiun | the CF stuff is only software I think |
| 15:40.55 | Luce13B | hmmm ... damn |
| 15:41.11 | Luce13B | looks like i will have to stay with SD cards |
| 15:41.16 | Luce13B | but wait !!! |
| 15:41.24 | Luce13B | i can't image ROMs with SD cards |
| 15:41.29 | Luce13B | i tried .. and it does not work |
| 15:41.46 | Luce13B | all instructions tell you to put the ROMs on CF cards |
| 15:42.01 | absentia | I did on a 7x0 model |
| 15:42.02 | absentia | I think |
| 15:42.22 | Twiun | not of the 5500 though |
| 15:42.47 | Twiun | Luce13B: but once you've flashed you can remove the card |
| 15:42.54 | Twiun | you don't have to leave it in there |
| 15:43.09 | Twiun | and you don't need a big/expensive one for flashing either |
| 15:43.14 | absentia | ya |
| 15:43.16 | absentia | I use 128MB cards |
| 15:43.21 | absentia | have 2 |
| 15:43.30 | absentia | they were like $29 each |
| 15:46.22 | Luce13B | CF cards ? |
| 15:46.35 | Luce13B | .. absentia |
| 15:46.37 | Luce13B | 30$ |
| 15:46.38 | absentia | yup |
| 15:46.49 | Luce13B | cool ... time to jump on ebay |
| 15:46.59 | Luce13B | what about some other cool device for the Zaurus |
| 15:47.08 | Luce13B | headset with mike |
| 15:47.19 | Luce13B | i was not able to find that on ebay |
| 15:50.03 | jdh41 | Twiun: glibc 2.3.2 |
| 15:50.17 | Twiun | jdh41: and which compiler? |
| 15:50.23 | jdh41 | 3.3 |
| 15:50.36 | jdh41 | want me to try with 2.95 |
| 15:50.55 | Twiun | that might be more successful |
| 15:51.04 | Twiun | I've really only used 3.3 for the .21 kernel |
| 15:51.05 | absentia | http://www.myzaurus.com/buyaccess.asphttp://www.myzaurus.com/buyaccess.asp |
| 15:51.08 | absentia | er |
| 15:51.09 | absentia | http://www.myzaurus.com/buyaccess.asp |
| 15:51.21 | absentia | luce... |
| 15:53.39 | jdh41 | with 2.95 its either compiling the pckage in a different order or has no problems |
| 15:55.23 | Twiun | hmmm |
| 15:55.36 | Twiun | did you make clean before switching compilers? |
| 15:56.14 | Luce13B | yeah |
| 15:56.27 | Luce13B | .. absentia |
| 15:57.14 | jdh41 | Twiun: no... |
| 15:57.27 | Luce13B | hmmm ... i normaly buy everything from ebay |
| 15:57.36 | Luce13B | not used to paying full prices for things |
| 15:58.05 | Twiun | jdh41: much pain lies that way |
| 15:58.34 | jdh41 | hmm, it seems to haven gotten to the end of buildroot now |
| 15:58.51 | Twiun | but you'll have some packages done with 2.95 and some with 3.3 |
| 15:58.59 | Twiun | something it can't check on your host |
| 15:59.07 | Twiun | it'll break on the device |
| 16:01.04 | jdh41 | and waits... |
| 16:01.31 | jdh41 | and wishes for more RAM... |
| 16:01.54 | absentia | how much ram do you have ? |
| 16:02.04 | jdh41 | 512 |
| 16:02.42 | jdh41 | but as this mb has a dual channel access thingymagig, another 512 would be sueful |
| 16:03.04 | absentia | I need to get a real pc |
| 16:04.23 | jdh41 | hmm, looks done |
| 16:05.59 | Luce13B | did anyone one mod their WiFi cards ? |
| 16:06.10 | Luce13B | i have a D-Link 650W |
| 16:06.13 | Luce13B | took it appart .. |
| 16:06.28 | Luce13B | there is a connector for an external antena on the board ... |
| 16:06.45 | absentia | I don't have a problem with the range or throughput on my dlink 660w |
| 16:06.54 | absentia | although I wish it was far less bulky |
| 16:07.02 | absentia | the linksys wcf12 is less bukly, but it doesn't seem to work. |
| 16:07.06 | Luce13B | i just been to find the proper adapter to stick in there |
| 16:07.26 | Luce13B | hmmmm you think your 660w is bulky ? |
| 16:07.33 | Luce13B | take a look at the 650 |
| 16:07.57 | Luce13B | i am going to cut the edges off of mine |
| 16:08.08 | Luce13B | so i can take and put the stylus in and out |
| 16:08.15 | Luce13B | and the headphones too |
| 16:09.14 | Luce13B | what Zaurus needs real bad ... is: |
| 16:09.18 | Luce13B | 2 cambo cards |
| 16:09.27 | Luce13B | WiFi + storage |
| 16:09.33 | Luce13B | WiFi + GPS |
| 16:09.46 | poo | Luce13B: YES! |
| 16:09.59 | poo | Luce13B: or 2 sd slots :| |
| 16:09.59 | Luce13B | that work on it that is ... |
| 16:10.41 | Luce13B | or DDR2 RAM |
| 16:11.21 | poo | DDR2 ram would use too much power iirc |
| 16:11.27 | Luce13B | and Xavier's Ceribro machine |
| 16:11.35 | Luce13B | all-in-one |
| 16:11.40 | Luce13B | :-) |
| 16:11.58 | Luce13B | is there a PDA better than tha Zaurs ? |
| 16:12.16 | Luce13B | i seen some Toshibas ... are those any good ? |
| 16:12.38 | ][eBerg | you guys thing the 400mhz 5600 would be fast enough to run PGPPhone for portable voice encryption? |
| 16:15.19 | Luce13B | ohhh |
| 16:15.26 | Luce13B | talking about phones |
| 16:15.35 | Luce13B | is there a VoIP app for Zaurus ? |
| 16:16.19 | poo | Luce13B: that would be slick |
| 16:16.24 | ][eBerg | http://kennethhunt.com/archives/000698.html |
| 16:16.29 | n_flag | is there a good tutorial on how to start coding a java app for the zaurus |
| 16:16.33 | poo | Luce13B: port gnomemeeting. :) |
| 16:16.40 | n_flag | I have an existing app that I'd like to port over |
| 16:17.37 | n_flag | I'm getting confused on what I need to get in order to emulate compiling/running a java app on zaurus |
| 16:18.09 | poo | wow cool - http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/tkcphone/ looks pretty neat. anyone using it? |
| 16:18.20 | Luce13B | i see it ... but |
| 16:18.31 | Luce13B | i was hopeing to see some freeware stuff |
| 16:18.55 | Luce13B | there is tons of freewhare apps for PC for VoIP |
| 16:19.22 | Luce13B | figured Zurus running Linux would have a free one too |
| 16:19.25 | Luce13B | :-( |
| 16:20.39 | poo | $20 US is virtually free |
| 16:21.06 | poo | support thekompany - they're good people who believe in the Z |
| 16:21.15 | Twiun | Luce13B: it took a good long time for the PC ones to make an appearance |
| 16:21.44 | Twiun | Luce13B: and until there's more interest on doing this type of thing on the Z, it's unlikely someone will volunteer to do the porting work |
| 16:25.00 | n_flag | man, all the java tools I've found are for sparc or windows, where is j2pe for linux? |
| 16:27.08 | Twiun | n_flag: doesn't exist, what do you want to do? |
| 16:30.34 | poo | j2pe? |
| 16:33.20 | Twiun | the PersonalJava Emulation environment |
| 16:33.26 | Twiun | I believe |
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| 16:42.23 | absentia | Rockets have been fired from donkey carts at the Iraqi oil ministry complex and two hotels in Baghdad, seriously wounding an American contractor. |
| 16:42.40 | absentia | millions for humvees to launch rockets! no! just a donkey farm. |
| 16:44.12 | absentia | you know |
| 16:44.36 | absentia | zaurususergroup urls have to be some of the lamest around |
| 16:46.57 | jdh41 | hmm, ideas on: libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration while compiling glib 2.2.0? |
| 16:48.47 | Twiun | jdh41: erm. no - I think kergoth is the person to talk to about libtool in this case |
| 16:49.06 | jdh41 | ok, I'll ask him when he appears |
| 16:49.10 | jdh41 | if I'm around then |
| 16:49.30 | jdh41 | in the eman tiem, google |
| 16:51.02 | kergoth | jdh41: the Makefiles arent properly calling libtool with --tag |
| 16:51.24 | kergoth | jdh41: generally that means the aclocal/autoheader/automake/autoconf calls failed somewhere, since we call those to make it use our more recent libtool macros and ltmain.sh |
| 16:51.59 | kergoth | (note that this only works for automake based builds, non-automake have their own libtool rules, and the syntax may need to be changed manually... thats not the case here) |
| 16:55.25 | George- | hi kergy |
| 16:55.48 | jdh41 | configure: WARNING: invalid host type: ./config.cache <-- that likely to be the problem? |
| 16:55.49 | n_flag | Twiun: I can only find j2pe releases for windows and spaarc |
| 16:56.05 | n_flag | j2pe.exe and j2pe.sh (for sparc) |
| 16:56.15 | kergoth | jdh41: wrong ./configure syntax. is this buildroot or what? |
| 16:56.44 | kergoth | jdh41: and this is the wrong place to have this discussion, lets move to #openembedded |
| 16:57.15 | absentia | oh, my sigh wasn't for that. |
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| 17:05.35 | Twiun | n_flag: you didn't answer ;) what do you want to do? |
| 17:06.37 | n_flag | heh, sorry |
| 17:06.46 | n_flag | I have an existing java app, that I'd like to port over to the zaurus |
| 17:06.58 | n_flag | however, I'd like to compile/test it on my linux box, then move it over to the zaurus |
| 17:07.31 | Twiun | then just get the 1.1 sdk from blackdown.org |
| 17:07.44 | Twiun | and run that on your desktop - no need for anything else :) |
| 17:08.22 | n_flag | is it 1.1.8 that the Z is compliant with? |
| 17:08.34 | Twiun | it's equivalent |
| 17:08.56 | Twiun | it's 1.1.8+ all optional extensions (for 1.1) |
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| 17:49.28 | treke|home | mornin absentia |
| 17:52.53 | absentia | morn' |
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| 18:23.05 | absentia | does anyone know what the equiv of qcanvas is in qt2 ? |
| 18:23.13 | treke|home | qcanvas |
| 18:23.24 | absentia | hmmm. |
| 18:23.36 | absentia | im learning python |
| 18:23.38 | absentia | I'm learning qt |
| 18:23.49 | absentia | and now i'm trying to port code from qt3 (new, latest) to qt2. |
| 18:23.59 | absentia | there don't appear to be any real documentation sites w/ examples |
| 18:24.24 | absentia | # point = self.inverseWorldMatrix().map(e.pos()) |
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| 18:24.32 | absentia | I somehow need to remove the inverseWorldMatrix |
| 18:24.35 | treke|home | They are probably assuming you know the qt library and python language |
| 18:24.58 | vvff | hey every1 |
| 18:25.16 | absentia | or add my own inverseWorldMatrix code... I think I found map in QMatrix ... but I can't seem to get code to work if I remove the inverse world matrix |
| 18:25.21 | vvff | imgay |
| 18:25.24 | absentia | treke: yup |
| 18:25.26 | absentia | it's a catch 22 |
| 18:25.37 | vvff | i gotta go jerk it |
| 18:25.44 | vvff | c ya'll later |
| 18:26.14 | treke|home | ah but there is fine documentation for qt, python also probably has it :) |
| 18:26.39 | absentia | the documentation and examples all seem to be in c++ |
| 18:26.41 | treke|home | You can use the C++ api docs almost perfectly |
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| 19:30.00 | absentia | http://www.smh.com.au/text/articles/2003/11/21/1069027339796.html |
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| 19:59.42 | Luce13B | hello guys |
| 19:59.48 | Luce13B | i am back ... |
| 20:00.00 | Luce13B | i got Kismet working on my Zaurus ... |
| 20:00.13 | Luce13B | i did not know how poerfull it was ... |
| 20:00.27 | Luce13B | i though i was some smart-ass-cool-guy |
| 20:00.39 | Luce13B | by making my home AP invisible to windows machines |
| 20:00.48 | Luce13B | desable SSID broadcasting |
| 20:00.55 | Pendalar | and you broke the space time continuum? |
| 20:01.00 | Luce13B | disable SSID |
| 20:01.15 | Luce13B | disable undown MACs |
| 20:01.23 | Luce13B | and disable DHCP |
| 20:01.49 | Luce13B | i was the king of the hill cause one of the Windows machines around my house coudl see me |
| 20:01.56 | Luce13B | i laoded NetStumblers .. |
| 20:02.03 | Luce13B | ran around the house ... |
| 20:02.16 | Luce13B | and the radar returned nothing but the sounds of wales |
| 20:02.45 | Luce13B | but i got my Zaurus |
| 20:02.50 | Luce13B | put Kismet on it .. |
| 20:02.53 | Luce13B | and BAAAAAM !!! |
| 20:03.02 | Luce13B | i can see my Stealth AP |
| 20:03.21 | Luce13B | so i dropped everything i had in my hands ... |
| 20:03.26 | Luce13B | ran downsatirs |
| 20:03.40 | Luce13B | and unpluged my WiFi AP |
| 20:04.07 | Luce13B | and yanked the cable from my ISP |
| 20:04.29 | Luce13B | but ... when i came to my senses i powered everything up |
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| 20:06.31 | conundrum | kergoth: No go. |
| 20:07.00 | conundrum | Could all the links have been removed when I fscked the card? |
| 20:08.31 | Luce13B | i knew that the chance of people with Linux and WiFi beign aroudn me .. |
| 20:08.59 | Luce13B | are slim |
| 20:09.01 | Luce13B | to none |
| 20:10.11 | conundrum | Luce13B? |
| 20:16.42 | kergoth | conundrum: tried ipkg-link mount /mnt/card? |
| 20:16.52 | kergoth | conundrum: thatll recreate all the links from teh card back to root |
| 20:19.21 | conundrum | so "ipkg-link mount /mnt/card"? |
| 20:19.32 | kergoth | yes |
| 20:19.36 | kergoth | ipkg-link --help |
| 20:19.37 | kergoth | read |
| 20:19.44 | kergoth | ipkg-link is spiffy |
| 20:20.12 | conundrum | i/o error |
| 20:20.24 | kergoth | heh, your card is hokey again. |
| 20:20.26 | kergoth | umount, fsck |
| 20:20.33 | conundrum | Alright. |
| 20:20.39 | kergoth | wonder whats causing that |
| 20:20.47 | conundrum | device is busy. |
| 20:20.57 | conundrum | If I knew would I be here? :P |
| 20:20.57 | Luce13B | anyone play around with Kismet here ? |
| 20:21.10 | Luce13B | i have some questions that i could not find in their forum |
| 20:21.18 | conundrum | Just use wellenreiter. |
| 20:21.28 | conundrum | ~wellenreiter |
| 20:21.30 | | [wellenreiter] http://www.wellenreiter.net/ |
| 20:21.48 | conundrum | ~sl-6000 |
| 20:21.49 | | i guess sl-6000 is http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=77&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 20:22.14 | Luce13B | is it better ? |
| 20:22.24 | Luce13B | WHat does it do that Kismet does not ? |
| 20:22.32 | conundrum | GUI |
| 20:22.41 | conundrum | Fake mac adress. |
| 20:22.51 | conundrum | Plus, it's name is german. :P |
| 20:23.09 | kergoth | kismet-qte exists.. |
| 20:23.13 | kergoth | wrt GUI |
| 20:23.33 | conundrum | ibot: no, sl-6000 is the latest sl model slated for release in january http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=77&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 20:23.35 | | okay, conundrum |
| 20:23.43 | conundrum | Yea, thats true. |
| 20:24.11 | conundrum | kergoth: Anyway to stop whatever process is using my card?? |
| 20:25.04 | kergoth | does your Z have lsof? |
| 20:25.06 | Luce13B | yeah |
| 20:25.06 | conundrum | ~sl-6000 |
| 20:25.09 | | sl-6000 is, like, the latest sl model slated for release in january http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=77&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 20:25.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:25.18 | kergoth | or do a fuser -m /mnt/card |
| 20:25.18 | Luce13B | " cardctl schame CardSuspend " |
| 20:25.24 | kergoth | those are the process ids of the users |
| 20:25.36 | Luce13B | " cardctl schame CardResume " to start it again ... |
| 20:25.59 | Luce13B | ohhhh |
| 20:26.03 | conundrum | Or I could restart opie and make life easy. |
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| 20:26.23 | Luce13B | so guys ... |
| 20:26.29 | Luce13B | can i get a show of hands ... |
| 20:26.33 | Luce13B | Kismet anyone ? |
| 20:26.44 | Luce13B | Wellenreiter anyone ? |
| 20:26.47 | kergoth | what about it? |
| 20:26.55 | Luce13B | quick poll |
| 20:26.58 | kergoth | i've used both |
| 20:27.05 | conundrum | Same. |
| 20:27.12 | Luce13B | quick blurb on each .. |
| 20:27.15 | conundrum | Except my card crapped out on me so now im not using either. |
| 20:27.27 | Luce13B | :-( |
| 20:27.39 | kergoth | blurb? |
| 20:27.42 | kergoth | just try them |
| 20:27.46 | kergoth | see which you prefer |
| 20:27.46 | Reddog-[Away] | i use both as well |
| 20:27.56 | Luce13B | have you had time to export any dumps to AirSnort or WEPCrack ? |
| 20:27.58 | Reddog-[Away] | i prefer kismet though, for now anyways |
| 20:28.07 | Luce13B | cool |
| 20:28.10 | Luce13B | why ? |
| 20:28.23 | Luce13B | i forgot my Zaurus at home .. |
| 20:28.29 | Luce13B | i get getting deprived ... |
| 20:28.29 | Reddog-[Away] | more features at the time i used it |
| 20:29.08 | Reddog-[Away] | but the new wellenreiter should be out (is it out yet?) and has a bunch of new stuff |
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| 20:30.18 | Reddog-[Away] | nope, doesn't look like the new ones done yet |
| 20:31.27 | conundrum | #fsck /dev/mmcda1 |
| 20:31.27 | conundrum | fsck 1.33 (21-Apr-2003) |
| 20:31.27 | conundrum | e2fsck 1.33 (21-Apr-2003) |
| 20:31.27 | conundrum | fsck.ext2: No such device or adress while trying to open /dev/mmcda1 |
| 20:31.27 | conundrum | Possibly non-existant or swap device? |
| 20:31.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:31.42 | kergoth | did you suspend the card? |
| 20:31.53 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:31.57 | conundrum | just umount /mnt/card |
| 20:32.00 | conundrum | then fsck |
| 20:32.03 | kergoth | eject hte card, reinsert, umount, try again |
| 20:32.10 | conundrum | Alright. |
| 20:32.32 | conundrum | I'll cry if the card is shit. |
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| 20:33.40 | conundrum | No errors. |
| 20:33.58 | conundrum | remount, and ipkg-link /mnt/card ? |
| 20:34.14 | conundrum | ipkg-link mount /mnt/card |
| 20:34.19 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:34.22 | MG_Tak | anyone know anything about OPT page replacement? :) (no, it's not Z related, I know..) |
| 20:35.16 | conundrum | It's running. |
| 20:39.43 | conundrum | lol |
| 20:39.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:39.51 | conundrum | Didn't work. |
| 20:39.57 | conundrum | >_< |
| 20:41.09 | conundrum | When I click on any application installed to SD I get the message "Could not locate application [application name]" |
| 20:42.26 | conundrum | Could it be the CF card for some reason? |
| 20:43.50 | kergoth | is your /opt/QtPalmtop/bin in your PATH in /etc/profile? |
| 20:45.06 | absentia | you can get that if he card isn't forwatted ext2 |
| 20:45.09 | absentia | I got that a few times. |
| 20:45.31 | conundrum | O.o |
| 20:45.47 | conundrum | It's an ext2 card, and that totally confused me, I'm sorry kergoth could you stupify it? |
| 20:45.55 | kergoth | cat /etc/profile |
| 20:45.58 | kergoth | theres a PATH= line |
| 20:46.04 | kergoth | is /opt/QtPalmtop/bin in it? |
| 20:46.09 | kergoth | if not, add it. colon seperated. |
| 20:49.32 | Luce13B | soooo going back to Kismet ... |
| 20:49.43 | Luce13B | has anyone imported dumps to AirSnort |
| 20:50.00 | Luce13B | ohhh ... and sometimes Kismet does not get the right info about the APs |
| 20:50.04 | Luce13B | like SSID |
| 20:50.11 | Luce13B | and IP block |
| 20:50.25 | Luce13B | speciall if it is encrypted |
| 20:50.45 | Luce13B | yeah ... i would like to know how to import Kismet dumps to AirSnort |
| 20:50.59 | Luce13B | i get a CVS file and a dump file and a XML file ... |
| 20:51.15 | Luce13B | hwo does one read them and export them to AirSnort ? |
| 21:00.58 | conundrum | Late guys, take it easy. |
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| 21:48.11 | absentia | god |
| 21:48.13 | absentia | 10 more minutes |
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| 22:06.37 | ][eBerg | the 5000 and 5500 use the same screen right? I can use one to replace the other? |
| 22:10.52 | lpotter | should be able too |
| 22:23.30 | ][eBerg | sweet |
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| 22:44.20 | gerrynjr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.38 | ChipX86 | yes, but he came back 5 minutes later with coffee |
| 22:44.58 | gerrynjr | lmao... not this one |
| 22:45.05 | gerrynjr | class avg is a 50! |
| 22:45.06 | gerrynjr | woohoo! |
| 22:45.09 | gerrynjr | chemistry |
| 22:45.14 | gerrynjr | she was pissed |
| 22:45.19 | gerrynjr | passed back the exams... |
| 22:45.22 | gerrynjr | (avg 51) |
| 22:45.28 | gerrynjr | and said.. class is canceled |
| 22:45.32 | gerrynjr | and walked out |
| 22:45.45 | ][eBerg | damn |
| 22:45.45 | gerrynjr | I stuck around w/ 5 ladies going over stuff that she would have gone over |
| 22:45.54 | ][eBerg | that pretty much means you all are gona fail |
| 22:46.02 | gerrynjr | ][eBerg> not me :-D |
| 22:46.10 | ][eBerg | yep |
| 22:46.24 | gerrynjr | ][eBerg> 70 avg |
| 22:46.25 | ][eBerg | canceled I would asume she wont be there next week either |
| 22:46.26 | gerrynjr | :-D |
| 22:46.41 | gerrynjr | ][eBerg> you think she'll do tyhis for the rest of the semester? |
| 22:46.56 | ][eBerg | I have no idea |
| 22:47.01 | gerrynjr | she said "I think the exams speak for themselves" |
| 22:47.04 | ][eBerg | just wanted to see you sweat a lil |
| 22:47.05 | gerrynjr | no need to go over them |
| 22:47.58 | ][eBerg | Id send her an email |
| 22:48.05 | gerrynjr | I did |
| 22:48.18 | ][eBerg | "bitch you dont walk out on me, I demand an A or I'll have your job whore!" |
| 22:50.14 | ][eBerg | I think someone walking out on me would piss me off |
| 22:50.28 | gerrynjr | lmao |
| 22:50.28 | ][eBerg | my bigest pet peave is someone to hang up on me on the phone |
| 22:50.35 | ][eBerg | man that pisses me off |
| 22:51.03 | gerrynjr | it ripped me |
| 22:51.04 | ][eBerg | I didnt talk to an ex gf for 3 weeks when she hung up on me, till she came in person and appologised |
| 22:51.36 | gerrynjr | (each class costs about 80 bucks, if my math is right) |
| 22:51.48 | gerrynjr | so.. I expect reimbursement for the missed class |
| 22:56.03 | n_flag | how does one install an ipkg on OZ that is gzip compressed (not in debian format) |
| 22:58.22 | kergoth | ? |
| 22:58.26 | kergoth | oz's ipkg installs either format fine. |
| 22:58.29 | kergoth | sharp's is old only |
| 22:59.30 | n_flag | I'm using OZ's ipkg and it's complaing that "ipkg: invalid compressed data--format violated" |
| 22:59.46 | n_flag | and doing a `file` on that shows it's in gzip compressed |
| 22:59.56 | n_flag | where as ipkg's that did install showed up as debian binaries |
| 23:00.07 | kergoth | then that ipk is fucked up |
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| 23:00.14 | kergoth | oz's ipkg can install gzip ipks. |
| 23:00.45 | n_flag | this is off the 3.2 rom installed 1hr ago |
| 23:00.53 | n_flag | is there a newer version I can get somehwere? |
| 23:02.10 | kergoth | huh? |
| 23:02.15 | kergoth | the IPK is fucked up |
| 23:02.17 | kergoth | IPKG is not |
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| 23:04.14 | n_flag | I would agree, except this is a common problem with many ipk's I've tried to install |
| 23:04.50 | kergoth | well, i have no problems. |
| 23:04.55 | kergoth | installing any gzip ipk |
| 23:05.02 | kergoth | nor have i heard any reports of this froma nyone but you |
| 23:06.15 | n_flag | interesting |
| 23:06.57 | gerrynjr | n_flag> I got that w/ some old ipks.... |
| 23:07.16 | treke|home | old ipks are typically very broken |
| 23:53.36 | W8TVI | n_flag: its all in your head |
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