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| 00:04.33 | sniper_Z | hi |
| 00:05.22 | Reddog | heyas |
| 00:07.17 | sniper_Z | anything new? |
| 00:09.49 | sniper_Z | gnite |
| 00:32.06 | imk | whats the passthrough serial connector for on the docking station? |
| 00:32.19 | kergoth | s/serial/sharp i\/o/ |
| 00:32.30 | imk | is it the exact same as if i hooked something straight into it? |
| 00:32.38 | kergoth | afaik yes |
| 00:33.01 | imk | cause the dockstation has a power source... i can just hack a connector together to feed a serial gps into the passthrough and use the power source already there to hook it up |
| 00:39.44 | imk | do i need a power source if my gps uses batteries? |
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| 00:56.18 | Reddog | imk, if the Z is running on batteries.. and the gps has it's own batteries.. then no |
| 00:56.35 | Reddog | personally, i have a car adapter for my Z and GPS |
| 00:57.20 | imk | i was given a delorme earthmate gps receiver... it uses batteries... and i just want to hook it up to my Z |
| 00:57.27 | imk | so i just need to wire ground, data in, and data out? |
| 00:57.59 | Reddog | from my experiance, there's a few pins that need to be hooked together |
| 00:59.12 | imk | do all gps's use the same serial cable on the end? so the pin diagram from a different gps would be right still? |
| 01:00.23 | Reddog | on the end that would plug into the computer, yes, because they have to follow serial standards |
| 01:00.47 | Reddog | on the GPS end of the cable is usually a proprietary connector |
| 01:02.18 | imk | my gps receiver only has one serial cable on it... the female connector thats used to plug into a pc... i just need to wire that to the serial of the Z |
| 01:03.02 | Reddog | right |
| 01:03.42 | Reddog | or, purchase a premade Z to male serial adapter |
| 01:03.58 | Reddog | which will plug into the bottom of the Z, or the back of the cradle |
| 01:04.38 | imk | i have no way of ordering one right now so ill just hack one together |
| 01:04.49 | imk | for now at least |
| 01:06.27 | imk | i should make a trip to radio shack with quarters and dimes =/ |
| 01:11.43 | Reddog | just ordered another 100 Z connectors today :) |
| 01:12.25 | gerrynjr | Reddog> damn.. that's quite a few |
| 01:13.17 | Reddog | we were gonna order 50, but we got a price break at 100 |
| 01:14.26 | Reddog | also, for those interested.. we found a CF card that is a USB host, and works on the Z.. but is currently only availible in Europe.. but are looking for US distributors |
| 01:14.31 | imk | i have $11.95 in quarters dimes and nickles :D |
| 01:14.37 | Reddog | sent an e-mail off to them this morning |
| 01:20.14 | W8TVI | I have $8 |
| 01:20.16 | W8TVI | :P |
| 01:22.30 | Reddog | i've got about $300.. but that's only cause today was paydal |
| 01:22.34 | Reddog | payday even |
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| 01:25.34 | gerrynjr | Reddog> how much for the card? |
| 01:25.48 | gerrynjr | if it's $50-ish, i'd buy one :-D |
| 01:26.06 | W8TVI | gerrynjr: what will you use it for? |
| 01:26.31 | gerrynjr | W8TVI> connect my external hdd to it :-D |
| 01:26.36 | gerrynjr | and... |
| 01:26.50 | gerrynjr | a pendrive-sized 802.11 card to it |
| 01:27.10 | W8TVI | goodluck |
| 01:27.10 | gerrynjr | data-mining Z |
| 01:28.03 | W8TVI | you can get OZ for the 5000d |
| 01:29.30 | gerrynjr | W8TVI> I know :-D |
| 01:29.40 | Reddog | gerry, no clue yet |
| 01:30.38 | gerrynjr | ie.. a Z w/ the storage of an ipod |
| 01:32.38 | Reddog | hehe |
| 01:33.00 | Reddog | shouldn't you actually GET a Z first? :P |
| 01:34.17 | gerrynjr | Reddog> true, true |
| 01:34.30 | gerrynjr | well.. i'm off for a bit.. |
| 01:34.35 | Reddog | have fun |
| 01:34.38 | gerrynjr | gonna watch some horror flics w/ the family |
| 01:37.58 | W8TVI | see ya guys tomorow night |
| 01:39.08 | Reddog | cya |
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| 02:50.22 | Reddog | wb kergoth |
| 02:50.26 | kergoth | thanks |
| 02:51.03 | Reddog | hrm, so.. i guess i'm gonna reflash my Z this weekend, and move all my apps to an SD card |
| 02:51.29 | Reddog | better to reformat the SD to ext2 for that? or keep it fat16? |
| 02:51.44 | kergoth | you'll need symlinks. |
| 02:53.43 | Reddog | hrm, so ext2 |
| 02:54.47 | Reddog | any performance loss on using ext2 on SD? |
| 02:56.54 | kergoth | yep, its noticably slower than vfat |
| 02:57.06 | Reddog | hmm |
| 02:57.07 | kergoth | could try umsdos on vfat, which works fairly well if you have the modules for it |
| 02:57.56 | Reddog | maybe i'll just pick a different OZ config this time, go with a bit more space and less ram |
| 02:58.35 | Reddog | i installed a couple packages that dumped some files where they shouldn't have been, and then removing the packages didn't remove those files |
| 02:58.42 | Reddog | filled up my space |
| 03:16.44 | MG_Tak | kergoth: this is going to sound horribly broad and 'uneducated' or something.. but what stands in the way of getting OZ on a 5600, since, IIRC, Sharp's released the source? |
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| 03:25.33 | kergoth | MG_Tak: hm? |
| 03:25.38 | kergoth | MG_Tak: oz works fine on the 5600. |
| 03:25.48 | kergoth | there just hasnt been an oz release since its been working |
| 03:26.33 | MG_Tak | oh, well put that way. :) |
| 03:27.17 | MG_Tak | kergoth: but it's based on the same kernel as the 5500 or the same as the Sharp 5600 ROM? |
| 03:27.27 | kergoth | eh? the 5500 kernel doesnt boot on a 5600 |
| 03:27.32 | kergoth | its different hardware |
| 03:27.55 | kergoth | right now it uses the sharp kernel tree, until such time as i have the time to merge the 5600 and c7x0 code into the upstream OZ 2.4.21 repositories |
| 03:28.33 | MG_Tak | is there any doc anywhere that outlines the differences between OZ and Sharp? |
| 03:29.04 | kergoth | uh, yes, openzaurus.org |
| 03:29.11 | kergoth | try using the web before pestering me. |
| 03:30.48 | kergoth | "why oz?" exists precisely for that reason. |
| 03:31.35 | treke|home | reason #1, you too can be the outlet for kergoth's rage |
| 03:33.29 | offroadgeek | what's OZ? |
| 03:34.14 | treke|home | A new form of pain and torment |
| 03:34.18 | treke|home | except it isnt new |
| 03:35.23 | offroadgeek | (bad joke) |
| 03:36.33 | treke|home | I thought it was rather good myself |
| 03:36.57 | offroadgeek | I was waiting for a comment from kergoth... |
| 03:37.44 | offroadgeek-away | mmmm.. dinner |
| 03:38.05 | offroadgeek-away | mmmmm... fat little piggy! |
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| 04:02.27 | lpotter | because. |
| 04:02.35 | lpotter | Why NOT Oz? |
| 04:03.01 | MG_Tak | Because OZ really doesn't run on my TV's remote control? |
| 04:05.39 | lpotter | well, if it can run linux, is can |
| 04:08.40 | Reddog | bad remote! bad! |
| 04:10.14 | lpotter | have you even _tried_ to get linux running on it? |
| 04:10.35 | lpotter | if there's a will.. there's a way |
| 04:13.03 | Reddog | well.. start typing.. you've got lots of lines of code to enter in |
| 04:13.09 | lpotter | well, there ya go! start typing! |
| 04:13.26 | lpotter | it's only 1's and 0's anyways |
| 04:15.21 | MG_Tak | I'll dual boo |
| 04:15.22 | MG_Tak | t |
| 04:17.14 | lpotter | hehehe. a dual booting tv remote... woot! |
| 04:17.37 | imk | hmm |
| 04:17.43 | MG_Tak | Dual boot: OZ and NetBSD |
| 04:18.43 | kergoth | the Z bootloader doesnt handle dual boot |
| 04:18.50 | lpotter | oz and beos |
| 04:18.52 | kergoth | port bootldr, LAB, u-boot, or grub |
| 04:19.11 | MG_Tak | Reddog: it's firewalled, sucker. |
| 04:19.33 | MG_Tak | Well f*ck. |
| 04:19.38 | MG_Tak | Someone hacked into my remote. |
| 04:20.27 | MG_Tak | You tuned into spike? |
| 04:20.28 | MG_Tak | you dirty man |
| 04:20.44 | Reddog | what's a spike? |
| 04:21.10 | MG_Tak | Spike TV, the new TNN |
| 04:21.39 | lpotter | should have updated the security fixes |
| 04:22.06 | lpotter | now your remote probably has a virus |
| 04:23.32 | Reddog | grr.. seems CF prototyping kits are hard to find |
| 04:23.39 | Reddog | noone likes working on a tiny scale |
| 04:23.46 | offroadgeek-away | can you ssh into a remote? |
| 04:25.13 | MG_Tak | offroadgeek: wouldn't it be nice |
| 04:31.33 | Reddog | just get a infrared transmitter for your comp, and run remote software on it :P |
| 04:31.49 | MG_Tak | lol |
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| 04:36.10 | Reddog | hrm, it got quiet all of a sudden |
| 04:36.25 | offroadgeek | so what Z are you going to win w8? |
| 04:36.36 | W8TVI|z | ? |
| 04:36.49 | offroadgeek | in the contest? |
| 04:37.12 | W8TVI|z | the 5500? |
| 04:37.22 | W8TVI|z | I hope? |
| 04:37.29 | Reddog | anyone know if there's any Z supported wifi cards that have an external antenna connector? |
| 04:37.53 | W8TVI|z | hey gerrynjr! you here? |
| 04:38.03 | kc8apf | the dfc-660w has one internally, but after having fought with one for 8 hours today. i don't recommend it |
| 04:38.06 | gerrynjr | nope.. |
| 04:38.11 | gerrynjr | I was just about to hit the sack |
| 04:38.12 | W8TVI|z | ok |
| 04:38.29 | gerrynjr | whattaya want? |
| 04:39.03 | Reddog | i think i'm gonna end up seeing if i can buy a cheap CF card on ebay.. like.. something under $30, and add an external connector to it |
| 04:39.17 | offroadgeek | reddog - I wish... why cant they come out with a cf version of the orinoco gold? |
| 04:39.26 | Reddog | yeah, really |
| 04:39.37 | Reddog | i love my socket CF card |
| 04:39.40 | W8TVI|z | offroadgeek:gerrynjr and I talked and we desided to leave it as it is, right gerry? |
| 04:39.50 | Reddog | but i'm not about to hack a $100 wifi card |
| 04:40.27 | offroadgeek | w8: what do you mean leave it as it is? did you check your email? I came up with a tie breaker |
| 04:40.40 | Reddog | i get about 20ft better range on my socket CF, than i do in my laptop with my netgear pcmcia |
| 04:40.51 | W8TVI|z | hold on |
| 04:42.10 | W8TVI|z | offroadgeek: what email? |
| 04:42.55 | W8TVI|z | I just checked mine... nothing from you... |
| 04:43.25 | offroadgeek | I sent it to **798@tcnet.org |
| 04:43.43 | W8TVI|z | ar798@tcnet.org |
| 04:43.50 | offroadgeek | yes... |
| 04:44.41 | W8TVI|z | I'm checking it on my zaurus, but that shouldnt make a deferince.... |
| 04:44.56 | offroadgeek[760] | I can forward it again |
| 04:45.12 | W8TVI|z | hmmm... hold on, I'll boot up my desktop |
| 04:49.23 | W8TVI | offroadgeek[760]: unless the subject of the email was "We'll pay you $25 just for taking a survey" I didn't get it |
| 04:49.46 | offroadgeek[760] | is there a better email that I should forward it to? |
| 04:50.11 | W8TVI | I'll give you two more to send it to |
| 04:50.30 | W8TVI | kb8sjt@knerd.com and w8tvi@bignetnorth.net |
| 04:50.57 | W8TVI | and w8tvi@aboveaveragedriver.com |
| 04:51.00 | offroadgeek[760] | done |
| 04:51.16 | offroadgeek[760] | (to the first two) |
| 04:52.58 | W8TVI | offroadgeek[760]: yes I did get the message |
| 04:53.19 | W8TVI | I though you were talking about another message...lol |
| 04:53.38 | offroadgeek[760] | it only really applies if you both still at a tie... which you're not at the moment |
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| 04:55.03 | W8TVI | hmmm |
| 04:58.37 | offroadgeek[760] | i found 6 FAQs today |
| 04:59.09 | W8TVI | ? |
| 04:59.16 | lpotter | I found kdeextragear-1 and -2 |
| 04:59.45 | offroadgeek[760] | I submitted them on behalf of two people who dont have Zs... for the drawing |
| 05:00.13 | W8TVI | he said that he wasn't going to submit anymore... and now I dont have time to submit my scp howto |
| 05:00.23 | treke|laptop | I should submit a a HowTo on getting OZ help without being bitched out by kergoth |
| 05:00.53 | W8TVI | hey offroadgeek[760] what time is it there? |
| 05:00.59 | offroadgeek[760] | treke: I'll award 100 points for that one! |
| 05:01.02 | treke|laptop | hehe |
| 05:01.19 | offroadgeek[760] | 9:01pm I'm in California |
| 05:01.34 | treke|laptop | Step One: ask your question after kergoth goes to bed at night |
| 05:02.02 | W8TVI | offroadgeek[760]: I'm saved! |
| 05:02.07 | W8TVI | I still have time for one more |
| 05:03.10 | offroadgeek[760] | Step Two: Download the 'cliff notes' version of the online documentation |
| 05:03.47 | offroadgeek[760] | tumnus... are you on? |
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| 05:11.54 | imk | whats the best gps prog for hte Z? |
| 05:12.57 | offroadgeek[760] | I've heard both zgps and qpegps are both good |
| 05:12.58 | treke|laptop | mutt |
| 05:13.22 | imk | do i need gpsd? |
| 05:14.44 | Reddog | i like qpegps, and it comes with gpsd |
| 05:15.52 | imk | hmm, ok |
| 05:16.02 | imk | zroadmap looks good |
| 05:16.11 | imk | http://zsi2.stonekeep.com/index.php?v=d&a=1117 |
| 05:17.20 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> you have /query mesages |
| 05:19.00 | offroadgeek[760] | eh? |
| 05:20.30 | gerrynjr | lmao |
| 05:20.30 | offroadgeek[760] | its not as easy to have multiple messages in qpegaim on a z :) |
| 05:21.10 | Reddog | hehe |
| 05:21.47 | offroadgeek[760] | why cant the main chat window be tabbed like the message windows? |
| 05:25.55 | offroadgeek[760] | has anyone else compiled gaim on a suse 8.2 box? |
| 05:26.10 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> i've done it w/ gentoo ;-D |
| 05:27.01 | Reddog | i've done it on RH7.2 |
| 05:27.25 | offroadgeek[760] | I did it a few months ago on my laptop (after I rebuilt it), and it was a bitch... |
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| 05:31.05 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> your nor gonna like me either |
| 05:31.07 | gerrynjr | not |
| 05:31.24 | gerrynjr | if ou want.. gimmie access like last time, i'll put them in for ya |
| 05:31.48 | gerrynjr | well... my faqs that is |
| 05:32.05 | offroadgeek[760] | nah.. wouldnt want you to delete W8TVIs entries ;) |
| 05:32.12 | gerrynjr | i'm not like that... |
| 05:32.26 | offroadgeek[760] | just kidding |
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| 05:32.43 | gerrynjr | just figured i'd lighten the laod a bit... |
| 05:33.03 | offroadgeek[760] | thanks |
| 05:39.13 | W8TVI | hey offroadgeek[760] did you get my email? |
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| 05:41.51 | offroadgeek[760] | checking now... |
| 05:41.58 | W8TVI | k |
| 05:42.26 | offroadgeek[760] | you mean the one with the 15 how-to docs? |
| 05:42.42 | W8TVI | I'll have one more in a few mins... I just wanted to make sure we wern't having trouble with email |
| 05:42.49 | W8TVI | I just sent one with just one in it |
| 05:43.13 | offroadgeek[760] | oh that one... yup |
| 05:43.18 | W8TVI | ok |
| 05:43.33 | offroadgeek[760] | (coulda played along.... scared gerry) |
| 05:43.47 | W8TVI | sorry |
| 05:43.56 | W8TVI | next time send a /notice |
| 05:44.03 | W8TVI | :P |
| 05:44.07 | offroadgeek[760] | no biggy... |
| 05:44.15 | Reddog | ah ha! http://www.sycard.com/180hib.html < CF prototyping |
| 05:44.50 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> you can't scare me anymore |
| 05:45.23 | Reddog | night all |
| 05:45.40 | offroadgeek[760] | reddog: very cool |
| 05:45.47 | offroadgeek[760] | night |
| 05:48.11 | offroadgeek[760] | anyone ever watch that show 'scare tactics'? |
| 05:50.04 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> see /query |
| 05:50.39 | offroadgeek[760] | damn you and your queries!!! |
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| 05:56.10 | W8TVI | hey offroadgeek[760] |
| 05:56.24 | W8TVI | http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagename=Little%20used%2C%20but%20useful%20command%20line%20apps |
| 05:56.30 | W8TVI | hows that? |
| 05:56.57 | W8TVI | its not done quite yet... |
| 05:57.03 | W8TVI | in a few minutes |
| 06:00.37 | offroadgeek[760] | dont forget to add the ! where needed (OpenZaurus) |
| 06:01.47 | W8TVI | k |
| 06:02.00 | W8TVI | but what did you think of my title? |
| 06:02.33 | offroadgeek[760] | its good |
| 06:03.21 | W8TVI | I was hoping to be a little bit funny |
| 06:03.59 | offroadgeek[760] | keep hoping! |
| 06:04.00 | gerrynjr | dum di di dum dum |
| 06:04.05 | W8TVI | :P |
| 06:04.11 | offroadgeek[760] | just kidding... its funny |
| 06:04.27 | W8TVI | heh |
| 06:04.35 | gerrynjr | little used, but useful = rm -rf / |
| 06:04.43 | offroadgeek[760] | I'm going to need coffee if I'M staying up to midnight... |
| 06:04.56 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> I just had crudloads of chocolate |
| 06:05.04 | gerrynjr | i'll be either a) puking by three in the morning |
| 06:05.14 | gerrynjr | or b) not sleep at 3 in the morning |
| 06:05.28 | offroadgeek[760] | if I eat any more sweets I'll toss my cookies... *literally* |
| 06:05.42 | gerrynjr | good thing this thing ended on a weekend |
| 06:06.06 | offroadgeek[760] | yup |
| 06:06.06 | gerrynjr | well, i'm done |
| 06:06.58 | offroadgeek[760] | yeah right |
| 06:07.04 | gerrynjr | I _am_ |
| 06:07.24 | gerrynjr | my mind can't function past 1:30 |
| 06:07.29 | gerrynjr | i've learned that from essays |
| 06:14.15 | W8TVI | offroadgeek[760]: ok, sent... |
| 06:14.22 | W8TVI | I think thats the last one for tonight |
| 06:15.18 | offroadgeek[760] | good! ;~) |
| 06:15.51 | W8TVI | so where does that put us now? |
| 06:16.32 | offroadgeek[760] | dont know yet... |
| 06:16.53 | W8TVI | well why not? |
| 06:17.01 | W8TVI | :) |
| 06:18.53 | offroadgeek[760] | :) |
| 06:19.06 | gerrynjr | :D |
| 06:24.26 | W8TVI | well... I guess I'll go to bed now... |
| 06:24.35 | W8TVI | got to be up in two hours |
| 06:26.32 | offroadgeek[760] | ok... night! |
| 06:27.10 | W8TVI | should I email you my street address?;) |
| 06:29.04 | offroadgeek[760] | yes, most definitely... I'll try to ship it out tomorrow via fedex... probably 2-day |
| 06:29.10 | W8TVI | cool |
| 06:29.55 | offroadgeek[760] | do you want the battery with it? |
| 06:30.17 | W8TVI | yep |
| 06:30.31 | W8TVI | how would I use it with out the battery? |
| 06:30.39 | offroadgeek[760] | just checking... (could use another spare) |
| 06:30.43 | W8TVI | lol |
| 06:30.47 | offroadgeek[760] | ;) |
| 06:30.54 | W8TVI | whats it "come with"? |
| 06:31.01 | offroadgeek[760] | I'm getting loopy again |
| 06:31.29 | W8TVI | e-mail sent, BTW (from the bignetnorth.net address) |
| 06:32.15 | offroadgeek[760] | the Z, battery, cradle, power cable, a wad of dollar bills for the titty bar, same as you'd get in the retail package |
| 06:32.30 | gerrynjr | titty bar? |
| 06:32.34 | gerrynjr | wtf? |
| 06:32.50 | offroadgeek[760] | lol |
| 06:32.52 | gerrynjr | who likes titties? |
| 06:32.56 | gerrynjr | I DO I DO! |
| 06:33.12 | gerrynjr | man... the time is getting to me... |
| 06:33.14 | offroadgeek[760] | I knew the 17 year old would wake up |
| 06:33.23 | gerrynjr | hey! |
| 06:33.29 | gerrynjr | if I didn't wake up, i'd have issues! |
| 06:33.37 | offroadgeek[760] | agreed |
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| 06:33.58 | gerrynjr | now, if you were talking of golf balls, then I woke up... |
| 06:34.02 | gerrynjr | i'd fear for my life |
| 06:34.28 | gerrynjr | W8TVI|z> night man |
| 06:34.43 | offroadgeek[760] | night w8 |
| 06:35.09 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> see query |
| 06:35.31 | W8TVI | cool |
| 06:37.38 | W8TVI|z | now lets see if I can get 2 hours of sleep... |
| 06:40.02 | offroadgeek[760] | damnit! I just checked the docs email, and I've got 9 emails |
| 06:40.18 | imk | do you just plug in the gps receiver, fire up gpsd, and it works? |
| 06:41.49 | offroadgeek[760] | make sure you have your serial connection setup (setserial...), and the proper settings on your gps device |
| 06:42.07 | offroadgeek[760] | hmmm are you speaking of a cf gps or serial gps? |
| 06:43.00 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> shall I send my address? |
| 06:43.28 | gerrynjr | that is, unless someone goes bonkers |
| 06:43.42 | gerrynjr | and sends 50 or so in an hour |
| 06:43.43 | imk | setserial? |
| 06:43.50 | imk | its serial gps |
| 06:44.07 | imk | i dunno how to test to make sure its actually contacting the gps device |
| 06:49.23 | offroadgeek[760] | damn 28 more points for tumnus |
| 06:49.56 | gerrynjr | wow |
| 06:49.58 | imk | i wonder if the batteries are dead |
| 06:50.03 | gerrynjr | that's a bunch of points |
| 06:50.20 | offroadgeek[760] | batteries are dead? |
| 06:50.24 | imk | all i know is i plug in the gps, i start gpsd, then i start qpegps... and it says gpsd is okay... but it doesnt get anything from the gps itself |
| 06:50.34 | imk | yeah, the batteries in the gps |
| 06:50.51 | offroadgeek[760] | it doesnt have a battery indicator? |
| 06:50.56 | imk | no |
| 06:50.57 | imk | hehe |
| 06:51.02 | imk | it doesnt have any indicator |
| 06:51.31 | offroadgeek[760] | hmm.. I've only gotten mine to work with my garmin rino 120 |
| 06:51.54 | imk | i was given a delorme earthmate |
| 06:52.10 | offroadgeek[760] | (the more I chat the less I work on the ZUG entries.... probably killing gerry) |
| 06:52.26 | offroadgeek[760] | dont know much about it |
| 06:52.52 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> each minute is like a stab in my chest |
| 06:53.10 | offroadgeek[760] | rofl |
| 06:53.30 | W8TVI|sleep | imk: I have heard that those are a pain to use |
| 06:53.52 | offroadgeek[760] | ah hah! he's not sleeping, but snooping!!! |
| 06:53.56 | imk | hehe |
| 06:54.04 | gerrynjr | W8TVI|sleep> SNOOPER! |
| 06:54.15 | W8TVI|sleep | non-standard data setup... |
| 06:54.20 | offroadgeek[760] | that or he has a computer in bed??? |
| 06:54.27 | offroadgeek[760] | GEEK1 |
| 06:54.28 | imk | W8TVI|sleep: what do you mean? |
| 06:54.36 | W8TVI|sleep | zaurus in bed |
| 06:54.46 | offroadgeek[760] | lol |
| 06:56.27 | W8TVI|sleep | update the scores first :p |
| 06:56.32 | W8TVI|sleep | please? |
| 06:56.55 | offroadgeek[760] | just kidding... |
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| 06:57.42 | W8TVI|sleep | hmmm |
| 06:57.46 | W8TVI|sleep | http://lists.bawug.org/pipermail/wireless/2002-May/006628.html |
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| 06:58.00 | W8TVI|sleep | nevermind what i said |
| 06:58.07 | offroadgeek[760] | morning lpotter |
| 06:58.11 | gerrynjr | morning? |
| 06:58.16 | gerrynjr | it's 2:04am |
| 06:58.16 | lpotter | morning? |
| 06:58.17 | gerrynjr | lmao |
| 06:58.25 | lpotter | 16:58 here |
| 06:58.26 | imk | hmm |
| 06:58.29 | offroadgeek[760] | arent you in australia? |
| 06:58.34 | lpotter | ya |
| 06:58.50 | lpotter | +10 UTC |
| 06:59.06 | offroadgeek[760] | ahh... got the time zone wrong.... I'm used to dealing with our Hong Kong office |
| 06:59.22 | offroadgeek[760] | well... good afternoon then! |
| 06:59.26 | lpotter | :) |
| 06:59.26 | cleverdra | how can I beam files to a palm? the file browser's 'beam file' seems to send everything as a memo. |
| 06:59.52 | lpotter | sharp rom? |
| 07:00.23 | cleverdra | no, OZ. |
| 07:02.32 | lpotter | hmm |
| 07:02.40 | offroadgeek[760] | ok... I've disabled the points box... |
| 07:03.39 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> damnit, your going for full effect, arn't you? |
| 07:04.07 | w8tvi|zzz | whats the final score before I shut my eyes? |
| 07:05.14 | offroadgeek[760] | dont know yet... I'll be tallying them up, and will write up a quick atricle anouncing thw winners... it will be posted at midnight |
| 07:05.53 | offroadgeek[760] | does that seem fair? |
| 07:06.10 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> will we still get the confirmation emails? |
| 07:06.28 | offroadgeek[760] | yes |
| 07:06.34 | gerrynjr | ok... |
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| 07:07.15 | gerrynjr | night w8tvi |
| 07:13.21 | offroadgeek[760] | it got quiet now that w8tvi is asleep ;) |
| 07:13.35 | offroadgeek[760] | shhhh.... he's sweeeeping |
| 07:18.31 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> how far are ya? |
| 07:19.42 | gerrynjr | thikn i can stay awake another 1/2 hour? |
| 07:20.22 | offroadgeek[760] | close... |
| 07:25.32 | gerrynjr | damn... this is gonna be close |
| 07:30.17 | offroadgeek[760] | gerry... can you clean up the vnc how-to? ie. add ! so some words dont get the ? (ZaurusLaunch, HowTo...) |
| 07:30.33 | gerrynjr | will do |
| 07:32.21 | gerrynjr | better? |
| 07:33.42 | gerrynjr | ?? |
| 07:33.46 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek[760]> |
| 07:34.19 | offroadgeek[760] | yup |
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| 12:45.54 | gerrynjr | NICE! |
| 12:46.17 | gerrynjr | Thanks to everyone who participated in the Documentation Contest! It was close, but the polls are officially closed, and the scores have been tallied: |
| 12:46.18 | gerrynjr | Winner of the 1st place prize - SL-5600 - tumnus with 147 points! |
| 12:46.18 | gerrynjr | Winner of the 2nd place prize - SL-5500 - gerrynjr with 92 points! |
| 12:46.22 | gerrynjr | Winner of the 3rd place prize - SL-5000d - W8TVI with 89 points! |
| 12:57.36 | Twiun | So... what did you win? |
| 13:02.33 | MG_Tak | an SL-5500 ? |
| 13:03.17 | Twiun | d'oh |
| 13:03.25 | Twiun | sorry... bit dopy atm |
| 13:03.50 | Twiun | and I think of the three prizes, that's the best one |
| 13:08.47 | MG_Tak | why's a 5500 better than a 5600 for you? |
| 13:09.58 | Twiun | OZ's is a working platform... the 5600 is still not there yet |
| 13:11.29 | Twiun | s/'s// |
| 13:13.49 | gerrynjr | Twiun> yeah |
| 13:13.55 | gerrynjr | i've asked that it be flashed w/ OZ |
| 13:14.34 | gerrynjr | yeah.. really, a great contest |
| 13:14.42 | gerrynjr | not everyday you get a chance to win a Z |
| 13:14.55 | Twiun | so, when are they putting all those docs up? |
| 13:15.01 | gerrynjr | they are up :-D |
| 13:16.07 | gerrynjr | Twiun> OZ can run binary apps, right? |
| 13:16.17 | gerrynjr | there's only one I can think of ATM |
| 13:16.20 | gerrynjr | zti85 |
| 13:17.54 | Twiun | gerrynjr: OZ can run all normal apps |
| 13:18.01 | gerrynjr | cool |
| 13:18.16 | Twiun | granted, some are packaged in braindead fashion though |
| 13:19.02 | Twiun | so they're runnable - but may not install or may crash due to missing dependencies |
| 13:19.26 | Twiun | but OZ is still very much experimental in that respect - we're not trying to play catch-up with Sharp |
| 13:19.39 | gerrynjr | yeah, i'm more interested in a active distro anyway |
| 13:20.05 | gerrynjr | a "portable workstation" if you will |
| 13:20.23 | Twiun | you'll be able to participate in our bugfixing ;) |
| 13:20.34 | gerrynjr | yep, just as I do w/ gentoo |
| 13:20.57 | Twiun | lol |
| 13:21.11 | Twiun | I find it a bit hard to play sideways ;) |
| 13:21.20 | gerrynjr | yes.. but it's DOOM! |
| 13:21.25 | gerrynjr | in the palm of your hand! |
| 13:21.39 | Twiun | All I want now is a mini-mouse ;) |
| 13:21.48 | gerrynjr | ah... |
| 13:22.06 | Twiun | playing with a mouse is just so much faster |
| 13:22.16 | gerrynjr | hmmm, I see this as an early b-day gift :-D |
| 13:22.20 | gerrynjr | my b-day is the 14th |
| 13:22.31 | Twiun | one month before mine ;) |
| 13:22.42 | Twiun | I might get myself a C760 for my birthday |
| 13:23.24 | gerrynjr | nice |
| 13:23.43 | gerrynjr | i'll take a color 5500 over my palm m100 anyday though :-D |
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| 13:23.55 | gerrynjr | the m100 is practically falling apart |
| 13:24.22 | Twiun | I've also got a Palm V - got it to beam notes to the Z ;) |
| 13:25.14 | gerrynjr | Twiun> I just think it's cool to have a linux system in the palm of your hand |
| 13:26.10 | Twiun | gerrynjr: I agree - I love doing Java stuff with it too |
| 13:26.27 | gerrynjr | Twiun> yeah, I was thinking the same.. it could come in handy w/ my java class |
| 13:27.15 | gerrynjr | Twiun> how is OZ support for GPE? |
| 13:27.20 | Twiun | gerrynjr: have a chat with _Ben_ when he logs on - he's got his java dev environment setup on his Z - maybe get together and write a howto? |
| 13:27.48 | Twiun | gerrynjr: not sure - X is in there but I don't compile it so I don't know its status |
| 13:27.54 | gerrynjr | yeah.. |
| 13:27.57 | gerrynjr | Twiun> cool :-D |
| 13:28.04 | gerrynjr | javac and everything? |
| 13:28.47 | Twiun | jikes and everything ;) |
| 13:29.02 | gerrynjr | ah.. forgot... |
| 13:29.20 | gerrynjr | but.. is it the "embedded java" |
| 13:29.20 | gerrynjr | ? |
| 13:30.35 | Twiun | depends on whos definition of that term you use - how much do you know about the various levels of Java-ness? |
| 13:31.25 | gerrynjr | well, I know the Z can't do swing fast enough for it to be usable |
| 13:31.56 | gerrynjr | Twiun> in any case, there was a port of frozen-bubble to java... |
| 13:32.06 | gerrynjr | i was going to see if I could resize the images.. |
| 13:32.09 | gerrynjr | recompile it.. |
| 13:32.12 | gerrynjr | and load it up |
| 13:32.20 | Twiun | it's possible - give me a shout if you need any help |
| 13:32.39 | gerrynjr | will do |
| 13:33.00 | gerrynjr | I mean.. te class I have moves very slow... |
| 13:33.10 | gerrynjr | we just started to cover arrays... |
| 13:33.18 | Twiun | lol |
| 13:33.44 | gerrynjr | it can get very boring at times... |
| 13:33.46 | Twiun | also join #java and #javapro, usually interesting stuff |
| 13:34.01 | gerrynjr | maybe this Z will liven up the class a bit :-D |
| 13:34.04 | Twiun | and #kaffe if you fancy helping out with it ;) |
| 13:35.03 | gerrynjr | now.. to see if te Z can crack wep... |
| 13:35.09 | gerrynjr | damn those college wireless networks |
| 13:35.18 | gerrynjr | who lock it down loosely w/ wep |
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| 14:03.35 | Rischwa|5r | hey ho |
| 14:16.45 | jaku | I have my contact in a file csv or tsv... how can I import in My zaurus addressbook? |
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| 15:52.01 | wbs | Is there anybody there? :) |
| 15:54.25 | MG_Tak | I am |
| 15:55.17 | gerrynjr | I am |
| 16:09.29 | gerrynjr | Twiun[afk]> the z supports awt, right? |
| 16:19.57 | Twiun | gerrynjr: depends on the JVM ;) |
| 16:20.14 | Twiun | gerrynjr: the J2ME download from Sun does |
| 16:20.30 | Twiun | gerrynjr: and so does Jeode |
| 16:24.14 | MG_Tak | myousefi |
| 16:24.14 | MG_Tak | patchan |
| 16:24.14 | MG_Tak | tsiyam |
| 16:24.18 | MG_Tak | oops |
| 16:24.57 | Reddog | [08:21:38] <Twiun> All I want now is a mini-mouse ;) ... actually.. we're working on it |
| 16:25.58 | Twiun | Reddog: you are? Cool ;) that'll go really well with a C760... is it optical? |
| 16:26.21 | MG_Tak | Reddog: who'd you work for? |
| 16:32.51 | Reddog | i work for a little private electronics company.. but we're venturing into making Z accessories |
| 16:33.10 | MG_Tak | dman |
| 16:33.36 | Reddog | heh, there's a few on the market that will fit the Z |
| 16:34.23 | Reddog | heh |
| 16:34.30 | Reddog | http://www.fivestarassoc.com/Z/ <-- what we have so far |
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| 16:34.40 | gerrynjr | Twiun> ah.. this frozen-bubble port uses awt :-D |
| 16:34.43 | gerrynjr | good then |
| 16:35.07 | Twiun | if it's done using java 1.1 it has a good chance of working on a Zaurus |
| 16:35.49 | gerrynjr | how would I know which java it was done with? |
| 16:36.17 | gerrynjr | is the vector class in the embedded jvms? |
| 16:36.28 | Twiun | stop calling them that ;) |
| 16:36.32 | Twiun | there's a whole bunch of them |
| 16:36.35 | gerrynjr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.35 | gerrynjr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.35 | gerrynjr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.35 | gerrynjr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.40 | gerrynjr | it does use 1.1! |
| 16:36.56 | Twiun | wonderful ;) |
| 16:36.58 | gerrynjr | so, tecnically, all I need to do is resize images... |
| 16:37.04 | gerrynjr | and recompile it... |
| 16:37.09 | gerrynjr | then make another jar of it? |
| 16:37.12 | Twiun | and perhaps resize/rearrange the drawing as well |
| 16:37.19 | Twiun | do you have a website for it? |
| 16:37.27 | gerrynjr | http://glenn.sanson.free.fr/fb/download.html |
| 16:37.31 | gerrynjr | the site is really slow |
| 16:37.42 | MG_Tak | free.fr is really slow |
| 16:37.55 | gerrynjr | it uses another class called JIGA |
| 16:38.02 | gerrynjr | a custom gaming api for this game |
| 16:38.08 | gerrynjr | dunno if that will work... |
| 16:38.20 | Twiun | pretty fast for me ;) |
| 16:38.27 | gerrynjr | slow here (USA) |
| 16:38.34 | Reddog | Twiun: and, not sure if we can do an optical mouse or not.. at the moment.. it's more of an idea.. |
| 16:38.43 | Twiun | gerrynjr: I'm in the UK |
| 16:38.50 | Reddog | and, i need to figure out how to write an input method |
| 16:38.53 | MG_Tak | gerrynjr: why're you on free.fr ? :) |
| 16:38.59 | gerrynjr | it's not my port or site |
| 16:39.05 | gerrynjr | i Just want to get it running on the Z |
| 16:39.08 | MG_Tak | oh |
| 16:39.12 | MG_Tak | duh |
| 16:39.20 | Twiun | Reddog: can't it behave like psaux or use the linux input layer? |
| 16:39.31 | gerrynjr | I mean... frozen bubble on the Z would be amazinf |
| 16:39.35 | Twiun | Reddog: Qt/Embedded has pointer support already |
| 16:39.35 | gerrynjr | amazing rather |
| 16:39.49 | Reddog | does it? hmm |
| 16:40.14 | Twiun | yeah, the pointer is just hidden iirc |
| 16:40.23 | gerrynjr | Twiun> the zaurus jvm supports applets too right? |
| 16:40.25 | Twiun | when you run it in qvfb you'll see the pointer |
| 16:40.34 | Twiun | gerrynjr: right - but only from the commandline |
| 16:40.37 | gerrynjr | so "jvm" -appletviewer *.html |
| 16:40.43 | Twiun | gerrynjr: not through the browser |
| 16:40.44 | gerrynjr | one cannot make a script for it? |
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| 16:40.51 | Twiun | yeah, you can script it |
| 16:40.55 | gerrynjr | ah.. good |
| 16:40.57 | Twiun | yeah read my jva FAQ ;) |
| 16:41.01 | Twiun | s/jva/java/ |
| 16:41.07 | gerrynjr | I could care less if it worked on the bowser |
| 16:41.10 | gerrynjr | browser |
| 16:41.24 | Twiun | gerrynjr: well -appletviewer will only work with Jeode |
| 16:41.25 | gerrynjr | we'll be using an applet as an app in this vase |
| 16:41.43 | Twiun | gerrynjr: other JVM use different ways to start the appletviewer |
| 16:41.48 | Reddog | but, i believe we're going to start out with an old fashioned serial mouse.. and work from there |
| 16:41.50 | gerrynjr | Twiun> curious.. can you try the binary .jar on that site? |
| 16:42.05 | gerrynjr | before I go and resize stuff? |
| 16:42.16 | Twiun | gerrynjr: not on the Zaurus atm - haven't charged it for months. but I'll give it a go in IE |
| 16:42.25 | gerrynjr | I know that works :-D |
| 16:42.56 | Twiun | it's pretty large |
| 16:43.06 | gerrynjr | 640x480... |
| 16:43.08 | gerrynjr | I think |
| 16:44.00 | Twiun | hmmm |
| 16:44.08 | Twiun | you'd be ok on a c7x0 |
| 16:44.18 | gerrynjr | but, if I resize the images... |
| 16:44.24 | gerrynjr | ie.. scale them |
| 16:44.25 | Twiun | but on a 5x00 series, the screen is 240x320 - not 320x240 |
| 16:44.43 | gerrynjr | so, it would have to run sideways.. like doom? |
| 16:44.44 | Twiun | I think that you'll need to mess with the code too - rescaling the images won't be enough ;) |
| 16:44.56 | gerrynjr | well... it would be interesting |
| 16:44.59 | Twiun | gerrynjr: not necessarily - you'd just have to adapt the drawing area |
| 16:45.07 | gerrynjr | a great java learning experience |
| 16:45.52 | Twiun | yeah, jump in the deep end ;) |
| 16:54.08 | Reddog | Twiun: find me a serial optical mouse.. and we may test with one :) |
| 16:55.40 | Twiun | Reddog: all the ms ones I've used have a USB to PS/2 adapter... I also have a ps/2 to serial adapter ;) |
| 16:56.00 | Reddog | hmm |
| 16:56.06 | Reddog | that could work |
| 16:56.47 | Twiun | it's certainly not something I use - if you want I could mail you the adapter (if you can't source locally) |
| 16:57.18 | Reddog | i have a few USB to PS/2's, and can probably find a serial to PS/2 |
| 16:57.38 | Twiun | cool ;) |
| 16:58.02 | Twiun | that'd be faster than international mail... heard about the mail strikes in the UK? |
| 16:58.42 | Reddog | eeps, nope |
| 16:59.22 | Twiun | sorting, postmen and just about everyone else in the royal mail does 48 hour walkouts |
| 16:59.30 | Reddog | sheesh |
| 16:59.55 | Twiun | I haven't had any mail for 4 days |
| 17:00.05 | Twiun | it's the first time I'm sorry to not receive bills ;) |
| 17:02.46 | Reddog | lol |
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| 17:10.27 | johnix | Hi |
| 17:11.10 | offroadgeek | hello |
| 17:12.10 | MG_Tak | So..? |
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| 17:14.08 | nessie | MG_Tak: sometimes, it's easier to talk in your native language ;o) |
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| 17:21.40 | MG_Tak | johnix: I know where Clermont Ferrand is. :) |
| 17:21.55 | MG_Tak | nessie: sometimes :) I don't actually fit in that category though. |
| 17:23.31 | johnix | ;) |
| 17:24.15 | MG_Tak | including something like "You're from a socialist country, you have no concept of what Freedom actually is." |
| 17:24.23 | MG_Tak | but anyway, that's way off topic for here.. |
| 17:24.56 | nessie | lol |
| 17:25.22 | Twiun | MG_Tak: likewise - I just happen to be in the UK ;) |
| 17:26.11 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek> hey |
| 17:26.12 | MG_Tak | Twiun: likewise you're French, or..? |
| 17:26.26 | Twiun | MG_Tak: I'm French ;) |
| 17:26.40 | Twiun | and yes, I do talk about offtopic things... |
| 17:27.30 | johnix | Does someone know about any HOWTO OZ-Programming? |
| 17:28.22 | mickeyl | be more specific. howto as in "howto work with the distribution buildroot" or as in "howto create opie applications" ... ? |
| 17:29.19 | johnix | howto create apps. |
| 17:29.19 | mickeyl | there are a lot of howtos on the web |
| 17:29.49 | mickeyl | www.uv-ac.de/opiedev |
| 17:30.02 | johnix | ok, thanks |
| 17:30.23 | mickeyl | there a few others... check the opie.handhelds.org wiki if/when it's up again. there are links to more. |
| 17:30.53 | johnix | I' look into that. |
| 17:31.07 | offroadgeek | morning gerry |
| 17:32.01 | gerrynjr | offroadgeek> I think I got enough sleep :-D |
| 17:32.43 | offroadgeek | I didn't... my dog woke me up at 6:30 to go to the park.... arrgh |
| 17:33.37 | offroadgeek | MS Access? |
| 17:37.23 | offroadgeek | gerry |
| 17:37.58 | MG_Tak | offroadgeek: yeah |
| 17:38.14 | MG_Tak | so I have to learn it first |
| 17:38.30 | offroadgeek | eek.. I hate access too... patui... I speet on access! |
| 17:40.04 | offroadgeek | gerrynjr - which zImage do you want? |
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| 17:44.31 | NoMercy | Anyone know how to install OpenZaurus, testing? |
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| 17:47.29 | NoMercy | Humm |
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| 18:27.06 | [thx1138alphabet | Access is good except the way it crashes the machine its ran on... |
| 18:28.47 | ShALLaX|Laptop | haha |
| 18:30.24 | [thx1138alphabet | Theres something about its memory usage which isnt quite right. |
| 18:31.14 | [thx1138alphabet | Oh, that and the fact you need to buy $400 worth of software for each PC that needs to run your simple database (that could be coded in something that has no such licenses). |
| 18:33.23 | ShALLaX|Laptop | :/ |
| 18:57.53 | NoMercy | Am I the only one who thinks the SL6000 is a bit uguly :) |
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| 19:08.12 | mickeyl | no - it _is_ ugly. |
| 19:08.21 | mickeyl | but who cares - the news that Sharp is going on making Linux PDAs is that what counts (for us) |
| 19:08.32 | mickeyl | now if they would just sell this in europe... |
| 19:09.51 | treke|home | lsthey are getting uglier and uglier as the months go by |
| 19:10.15 | wbs | The Zaurus 6000 is ugly, but that doesn't really matter if it's aimed at industry applications, like the Symbol machines are. |
| 19:10.38 | wbs | I'd have a 6000, if the 760 wasn't available |
| 19:10.47 | wbs | My 760 arrives on Monday! :)) |
| 19:10.52 | mickeyl | nice :) |
| 19:10.54 | mickeyl | good choice |
| 19:11.20 | mickeyl | s/black/ |
| 19:11.28 | wbs | You wouldn't believe the hassle I've had trying to get one of those little buggers here in the UK |
| 19:11.32 | treke|home | hehe, if the c760 wasnt available I'd still be an ipaq user :p |
| 19:12.06 | wbs | I've never been keen on Pocket PC machines |
| 19:12.27 | treke|home | Who said anything about pocketpc? |
| 19:12.28 | treke|home | :p |
| 19:12.52 | wbs | I thought the ipaq linux was a bit rough round the edges |
| 19:12.54 | wbs | ? |
| 19:13.04 | mickeyl | depends on the distribution |
| 19:13.04 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 19:13.09 | treke|home | hehe |
| 19:13.10 | mickeyl | there's more than #familiar :) |
| 19:13.27 | treke|home | wbs: It's better than sharp's linux support :p |
| 19:13.35 | wbs | I suppose so |
| 19:14.12 | wbs | Still, my final choice was between the UX50 and the Zaurus. The 760 was a clear winner! |
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| 19:15.17 | wbs | I was sort of considering a Sony u101. That's a nifty wee machine, but it's a bit pricey |
| 19:16.14 | wbs | Can anyone tell me if the Zaurus will connect to the Internet over it's USB cable? |
| 19:17.43 | mickeyl | sure |
| 19:17.44 | TheMasterMind1 | wbs: yes, it can |
| 19:17.53 | wbs | Excellent! Thanks |
| 19:17.57 | mickeyl | _if_ you properly configured your host system |
| 19:18.08 | mickeyl | with linux, it's no problem. with windows, it's cumbersume, but doable |
| 19:18.41 | MG_Tak | mickeyl: actually, that's not necessarely true. |
| 19:18.52 | MG_Tak | configuring a 5600 to work with linux usbdnet is a bitch |
| 19:19.03 | MG_Tak | but configuring NAT on windows can be really easy. |
| 19:19.18 | wbs | I'm connected through a Westell DSL router (NAT mode), could I bridge it to my existing connection instead of running another NAT? |
| 19:19.59 | wbs | I'll be using Windows XP and Linux in equal measures :) |
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| 19:41.59 | offroadgeek | hello w8 |
| 19:42.07 | treke|home | mornin |
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| 19:51.07 | ShALLaX | hmm |
| 19:51.12 | wbs | indeed |
| 19:51.21 | ShALLaX | oz's buildroot has to be one of the most complicated things ive ever seen |
| 19:51.22 | ShALLaX | :| |
| 19:51.26 | ShALLaX | its a mess |
| 19:51.43 | wbs | I got no Z yet, so I couldn't comment |
| 19:51.52 | ShALLaX | im gonna try for kernel 2.4.21.. i wanna fix the double reboot bug |
| 19:51.58 | wbs | Is OZ useable on the 760? |
| 19:52.04 | ShALLaX | afaik yes |
| 19:52.07 | wbs | cool |
| 19:52.15 | ShALLaX | but im a scene newbie ;) |
| 19:52.33 | ShALLaX | would be nice if the Z had bluetooth and wifi built in |
| 19:52.50 | wbs | I'm a pre-newbie... On Monday when my Z arrives, I'll be a fully-fledged newbie |
| 19:52.51 | wbs | :)) |
| 19:53.10 | ShALLaX | hehe |
| 19:53.14 | ShALLaX | ill hijack your mail |
| 19:53.34 | wbs | heh |
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| 22:17.01 | W8TVI | hey offroadgeek[pc] |
| 22:31.16 | offroadgeek[pc] | hey w8 |
| 22:31.31 | W8TVI | whats up? |
| 22:31.46 | offroadgeek[pc] | not much... just got back from walking my dog |
| 22:32.04 | W8TVI | did you say that you were going to send the zurii today? |
| 22:33.00 | treke|home | Who won the zaurus? |
| 22:33.19 | W8TVI | I can't remember if you said when you planed on doing it |
| 22:33.28 | W8TVI | me, gerrynjr |
| 22:33.40 | offroadgeek[pc] | if I can get to the fedex place before 5pm I will, otherwise monday |
| 22:33.46 | treke|home | W8TVI: You've already got one :) |
| 22:34.03 | W8TVI | k |
| 22:34.07 | offroadgeek[pc] | now he's got another |
| 22:34.09 | W8TVI | but I need a backup |
| 22:37.04 | W8TVI | now I need another SD card and a wireless card |
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