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| 00:27.54 | arete | wow, the 480x640 pocketpc came out today |
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| 00:41.20 | darmou | Well the SL-6000 will be out soon it rocks! |
| 00:41.56 | W8TVI | darmou, oh? |
| 00:42.02 | W8TVI | got a link? |
| 00:42.11 | fliplap | i've only heard rumors |
| 00:42.15 | fliplap | haven't seen any pictures yet |
| 00:42.23 | W8TVI | I've seen a faked pick |
| 00:43.52 | W8TVI | http://www.pocketpcrussia.com/public/up/6000.jpg |
| 00:44.22 | fliplap | useful |
| 00:44.23 | darmou | http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=77&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 00:44.42 | darmou | The SL-6000 has built in Wi Fi and bluetooth! |
| 00:44.50 | darmou | and USB-HOSTing |
| 00:45.07 | fliplap | ooo |
| 00:46.04 | W8TVI | ooohhh |
| 00:46.12 | W8TVI | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.12 | fliplap | looks like its gonna cost a grip |
| 00:46.46 | fliplap | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.50 | fliplap | good god |
| 00:46.59 | fliplap | the 5x00 is a brick as it is |
| 00:47.36 | W8TVI | 1500mAH battery |
| 00:47.50 | darmou | Is is 640x480? |
| 00:48.07 | darmou | THe screen does look better |
| 00:48.25 | W8TVI | "And yes people, this will be released in the US, sometime in early January! |
| 00:48.25 | W8TVI | " |
| 00:49.45 | fliplap | the screen is 4" doesn't say the res |
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| 00:51.33 | fliplap | i'll be sticking w/ my 5500 for now |
| 00:53.47 | gerrynjr | fliplap> my hope is that the cl series will come down in price |
| 00:54.19 | fliplap | i paid $169 for my 5500, thats pretty much the only reason i bought it |
| 00:55.25 | arete | I went to circuit city to find an e805 but no luck |
| 00:55.31 | absentia | re |
| 00:55.31 | arete | waste of money anyway |
| 00:55.58 | absentia | is the 5500 anygood? |
| 00:56.01 | absentia | the sl-6000 looks great |
| 00:56.06 | absentia | wifi, bluetooth.. |
| 00:56.08 | W8TVI | http://www.zaurususergroup.com/images/6000/imga0079.jpg |
| 00:56.39 | fliplap | absentia: it was worth what i paid for it |
| 00:56.58 | fliplap | i wouldn't be able to justify over $200 for any other model |
| 00:57.44 | absentia | eh? |
| 00:59.00 | gerrynjr | I could care less what model it is |
| 00:59.09 | fliplap | the 760 is nice, i just can't justify $650 for it |
| 00:59.36 | gerrynjr | the jap chars on the 760 will get in the way for me though :-( |
| 00:59.49 | W8TVI | I"d pay $650 for a sl-6000 |
| 00:59.50 | absentia | naw |
| 00:59.54 | absentia | just map the keys |
| 01:00.00 | W8TVI | if I had $650 |
| 01:00.13 | absentia | me too |
| 01:00.19 | absentia | especially if it has 64 or more RAM |
| 01:01.00 | W8TVI | yeah |
| 01:01.12 | W8TVI | and 64mb flash rom |
| 01:01.24 | gerrynjr | sadly... i can see myself over twisting the cl series... |
| 01:01.28 | W8TVI | I bet it uses the pxa255 |
| 01:01.37 | gerrynjr | I want a stationary screen |
| 01:01.44 | absentia | 6000 |
| 01:02.31 | gerrynjr | NEW Sigmarion III $525 USD |
| 01:02.32 | gerrynjr | holy... |
| 01:02.38 | gerrynjr | might as well ge that |
| 01:02.40 | gerrynjr | and load linux on it |
| 01:03.29 | W8TVI | they still put the ir port on the side |
| 01:04.39 | gerrynjr | they should put it up front! |
| 01:05.44 | gerrynjr | why does dynamisn markup prices 100 bucks? |
| 01:06.02 | TheMasterMind1 | only 100? |
| 01:06.58 | gerrynjr | UX-50 Sony Clie UX-50 699.00 - |
| 01:07.02 | gerrynjr | damn.. that palm is expensice |
| 01:11.07 | darmou | have you looked at theKompany? |
| 01:14.16 | darmou | http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/devices/?PHPSESSID=06df05d71d13518f1fda3d9f5ca38aa7 |
| 01:22.00 | gerrynjr | darmou> they will do importing? |
| 01:23.17 | darmou | gerrynjr yes you just buy it from them. |
| 01:23.57 | gerrynjr | how much through them? |
| 01:24.35 | darmou | check the web page I posted |
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| 01:25.38 | gerrynjr | no prices |
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| 01:34.57 | darmou | Damn they are no there anymore |
| 01:35.26 | darmou | Might have to email them, Ive forgotten them offhand but ebay might have the best prices |
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| 02:20.36 | raster | kergoth: yo yo awake? |
| 02:29.22 | Luke-Jr | WinProxy is NAT? o.O |
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| 02:45.21 | fatzaurus | hi |
| 02:45.40 | fatzaurus | whos on their Z? press 123 |
| 02:46.39 | gerrynjr | no, I am not an aolian |
| 02:47.20 | Luke-Jr | o.O |
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| 02:48.05 | fatzaurus | ibot hi |
| 02:48.05 | | hello |
| 02:48.08 | fatzaurus | cool |
| 02:48.11 | fatzaurus | it works |
| 02:48.22 | fatzaurus | er wlan is been ghey |
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| 02:48.28 | Luke-JrZ | me |
| 02:48.30 | Luke-JrZ | o.o |
| 02:48.35 | fatzaurus | cool |
| 02:48.44 | Luke-Jr | =p |
| 02:48.46 | fatzaurus | O()O |
| 02:49.22 | fatzaurus | ew |
| 02:49.35 | fatzaurus | vnc? |
| 02:49.44 | Luke-Jr | no? |
| 02:49.45 | Luke-Jr | Gaim |
| 02:49.46 | fatzaurus | err teenie z kb |
| 02:50.15 | fatzaurus | so you havent a clue what vnc is do you? |
| 02:50.46 | Luke-Jr | sure I do |
| 02:50.49 | fatzaurus | k |
| 02:50.54 | Luke-Jr | but I said that w/ Gaim for Z |
| 02:50.54 | Luke-Jr | =p |
| 02:51.01 | fatzaurus | but gaim is not a replacement |
| 02:51.04 | Luke-Jr | ... |
| 02:51.07 | fatzaurus | =/ |
| 02:51.16 | fatzaurus | GGG%%% |
| 02:51.41 | fatzaurus | heh |
| 02:52.11 | fatzaurus | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.55 | Luke-Jr | ... |
| 02:53.40 | Luke-Jr | bye again |
| 02:53.41 | Luke-Jr | =p |
| 03:03.00 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:09.23 | masticator | everyone watching the game? |
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| 03:30.01 | darmou | is there an aac player for the Z? |
| 03:30.32 | darmou | I tried vlan but it did not work on the Z only the desktop:( |
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| 05:00.52 | raster | kergoth: oh sorry was @ lunch. u still here? |
| 05:09.14 | kergoth | raster: for a little bit yeah |
| 05:09.15 | kergoth | whats up |
| 05:09.32 | raster | kergoth: omap. |
| 05:09.41 | raster | kergoth: do you know what devices use it? |
| 05:09.50 | raster | ie i know some new palm os 5 devices use it |
| 05:09.59 | raster | do you know if the sony clie's do? |
| 05:10.16 | raster | if they do woudl u know ro be able to get enouf docs/info to be able to flash/port linux to one? |
| 05:15.29 | kergoth | clies.. hmm, not sure offhand, would have to check into it. there's certainly enough info about the omap, but as with any other device we'd need info on the periphs. how far it gets would really depend on how cooperative sony is. |
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| 06:03.09 | raster | kergoth: aaah hmm ok. i 5think tho they use intels xscale by the looks. |
| 06:03.28 | raster | kergoth: i assume its all built of the same baseboard design so they all have a lot in common |
| 06:04.16 | raster | i'd ust be swimmingly happy to get the screen up and working and a kernel booting. yeah interfacing to the cf slot and memory stick slot and the dsp for mp3 decoding (and probabyl general audio) will be... err... interesting |
| 06:04.17 | raster | :) |
| 06:04.33 | ljp | what device? |
| 06:04.45 | raster | sony clie nx80v |
| 06:04.52 | raster | very ummie |
| 06:05.09 | raster | oh yeah the camera too - and th eheadphone play/pause etc. contro lines |
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| 15:02.01 | Disconnect | morning ChipX86 |
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| 15:22.03 | ChipX86 | morning Disconnect |
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| 15:53.52 | fliplap | man, i'm just hungover-ific this morning |
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| 15:54.20 | Disconnect | fliplap: lol. I'm feeling great, even though I went out to the club last night with a fever and all ;) |
| 15:56.53 | fliplap | well, i turned 21 last nigth |
| 15:57.14 | Disconnect | ah. sounds hangoverish ;) |
| 15:57.16 | Disconnect | congrats btw |
| 15:57.29 | fliplap | thanks |
| 15:57.57 | fliplap | i'm in arizona, last call is @ 1am, so i only had from 12am-1am to get sloppy, boy did i |
| 15:58.17 | Disconnect | pound down lots of shots ;) |
| 15:58.39 | fliplap | i just drank whatever people bought me :-) |
| 15:59.15 | Disconnect | lol |
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| 16:25.41 | fatzaurus | is there a prog similar to net send for the z? |
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| 18:22.45 | M^tt | hello |
| 18:22.50 | gerrynjr | allo |
| 18:23.18 | M^tt | im just wondering how i setup my zaurus to use gprs via IR to my nokia phone ? anyone here had any experiance with it ? |
| 18:23.25 | M^tt | i can use it over IR to do normal dialup fine |
| 18:23.33 | M^tt | just aint got a clue about gprs |
| 18:23.43 | gerrynjr | hmm, sorry, I have no clue... |
| 18:23.51 | M^tt | no probs :) nyone else ? |
| 18:23.57 | gerrynjr | I didn't even know you could dial out w/ a cellphone using a zaurus |
| 18:24.11 | M^tt | =) |
| 18:24.31 | M^tt | works ok i guess .. comes up as a normal call on my bill and usually under my free mins :) |
| 18:24.58 | gerrynjr | what kind of speed do you get? |
| 18:25.16 | M^tt | havnt actually tried downloads .. seemed to be a nice connection tho |
| 18:25.20 | M^tt | ill check it later |
| 18:26.27 | M^tt | oh and im using the latest sharp firmware |
| 18:26.40 | gerrynjr | you mean rom? |
| 18:26.52 | M^tt | aye |
| 18:27.52 | gerrynjr | damn.. got an hour to kill till my next class |
| 18:29.20 | Disconnect | with sprint vision its not even a call - it comes under the 'unlimited vision usage' so - unless you really really abuse it - they won't even notice. |
| 18:29.40 | gerrynjr | what's "unlimited vision usage" |
| 18:29.51 | gerrynjr | and.. how much does that plan cost? |
| 18:30.25 | Disconnect | sprint pcs vision plans - for "real" internet-on-phone access. |
| 18:30.35 | Disconnect | WML is sprint pcs.. http (color phones, etc) is 'vision' |
| 18:30.49 | gerrynjr | ah... |
| 18:30.50 | Disconnect | mines about $50, but I think there are ones w/ fewer minutes, etc |
| 18:30.55 | gerrynjr | guess I won't be getting that |
| 18:31.24 | Disconnect | its a cellphone plan. few of them are cheaper these days. |
| 18:31.55 | gerrynjr | 'I mean.. completely wireless access would be cool though |
| 18:31.58 | M^tt | connection speed is very low |
| 18:31.59 | M^tt | :( |
| 18:32.12 | gerrynjr | then again.. cellphones may cause cancer... |
| 18:32.32 | Disconnect | 20kB/sec stationary, down to 8kB/s while doing 90mph ;) |
| 18:32.32 | gerrynjr | how was it w/ your lappy? |
| 18:32.38 | gerrynjr | holy frick |
| 18:32.40 | gerrynjr | that's decent |
| 18:32.43 | Disconnect | only lost it once, at a gas station in the middle of nowhere (2 miles from 95, surrounded by farms) |
| 18:32.58 | Disconnect | latency is ugly but not unusable (I was using ssh and irc the whole way) |
| 18:33.05 | Disconnect | also dl'd a couple mp3s off my home box and burned them to cd |
| 18:33.14 | gerrynjr | now... if you d/l mp3s on that... |
| 18:33.18 | gerrynjr | can they be traced? |
| 18:33.40 | Disconnect | dunno, I use scp and such. |
| 18:33.46 | M^tt | Disconnect ? that with gprs ? |
| 18:33.53 | Disconnect | in theory they could charge me since there is no way all that traffic came from my cell. in practice, they don't care. |
| 18:33.57 | M^tt | or have i missed something |
| 18:34.09 | gerrynjr | Disconnect, lmao |
| 18:34.19 | W8TVI | anyone have the link to the hancom download that works with OZ? |
| 18:34.22 | Disconnect | ie it seems to be a manual process |
| 18:35.00 | gerrynjr | Disconnect, on a diff. note.. have you read about Aholehell's usage of the microsoft messenging service on 2k/xp installs? |
| 18:35.01 | gerrynjr | they use it to popo up ads... |
| 18:35.07 | gerrynjr | regardless of what browser you use |
| 18:37.00 | Disconnect | gerrynjr: ...erm. no. they pop in and turn it off... go reread the article ;) |
| 18:37.30 | gerrynjr | er... damn.. I misread |
| 18:38.36 | gerrynjr | man... |
| 18:38.43 | gerrynjr | I was _really_ off base |
| 18:40.57 | levi | Just the other day I had some windows messaging service spam pop up... for a program to shut off windows messaging service. |
| 18:41.32 | gerrynjr | i've never seen such a thing.. then again.. I don't run windows |
| 18:41.35 | Disconnect | its liek spam for "aren't you tired of getting spam?" |
| 18:42.10 | gerrynjr | yeah... but you can't open a webpage w/ the messenger |
| 18:42.15 | gerrynjr | is the thing like winpopup? |
| 18:42.22 | W8TVI | its easy, run a linux firewall |
| 18:42.28 | W8TVI | it'll stop those |
| 18:42.51 | gerrynjr | W8TVI, got one at home... but then again.. there are no windows boxen at home |
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| 19:57.38 | pole|Z | anyone know how to get irda support working? |
| 19:58.00 | pole|Z | im using a decently recent snapshot |
| 19:58.43 | pole|Z | i want to send a contact to my phone |
| 19:59.05 | Disconnect | snapshot of what? |
| 19:59.22 | pole|Z | OZ |
| 20:01.00 | kergoth | pole|Z: irda support should be working fine. whats the behavior? |
| 20:05.24 | Disconnect | kergoth: what, you can't bother to read the topic? (yep. fair's fair - if you are gonna be police when it suits you, you should do it when it doesn't.. its not hard to go to the proper channel. after all, I did..) |
| 20:05.55 | kergoth | as we've said before, openzaurus discussion is preferred in #openzaurus, but is still on topic here. zaurus is more inclusive. |
| 20:06.11 | Disconnect | heh. if you say so. |
| 20:06.21 | kergoth | last i checked openzaurus runs on a zaurus. |
| 20:06.28 | kergoth | if this was #sharpzaurus, then yes, itd be off topic. |
| 20:06.40 | Disconnect | as you told me, 'specifically excluded by the topic'.... |
| 20:07.27 | kergoth | the topic says help is available in #openzaurus. it does not exclude help from here. |
| 20:08.04 | Disconnect | the #oe says "user support in #openzaurus" but says nothing about excluding it there.... |
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| 20:08.24 | kergoth | you're right. the rule isnt in the topic, but it exists nonetheless. |
| 20:08.41 | Disconnect | pick one - either "go to that channel for X" means 'not here' or it doesn't... can't be both.. |
| 20:09.07 | kergoth | the implicit rules are different here than there. |
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| 20:10.51 | kergoth | i decide the rules for my channels, not you. |
| 20:10.57 | kergoth | so frankly i dont give a shit. |
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| 20:13.28 | Disconnect | ..like I said. never said you couldn't decide whatever rules you wanted. just pointed out that you tend to efnet it - "these rules are for our luzers, if you're 3l33t then don't worry about it" .. but enough has been published recently about the OZ and Opie crews ability to chase away developers,testers,users.. |
| 20:14.36 | kergoth | how hard is it to understand that oz user support is preferred in #openzaurus, but *can* exist in #zaurus, and *is not* permitted in #openembedded? other projects have similar seperation. #kde vs #kde-devel for example. |
| 20:19.30 | fliplap | the thing is, if you phrase a question in an intellegent manner, you actually know what you're talking about, and a developer is really the right person to be asking about your issue, most won't mind helping |
| 20:20.25 | kergoth | indeed. which is why I, and others, are usually in the user support channels as well. it isnt just for user-user support, its also the user-developer interface |
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| 21:05.56 | Taro | suddenly my Zaurus won't write to my SD card unless I manually remount it every time I turn it on |
| 21:06.06 | Taro | anyone see that problem b4? |
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| 21:29.42 | MG_Tak | hi ChipX86 |
| 21:29.48 | ChipX86 | hi |
| 21:33.05 | MG_Tak | well, aim/jabber/whatever |
| 21:34.33 | kergoth | MG_Tak: ChipX86 mentioned thats a planned feature for gaim, a 'bounce' like detachable proxy |
| 21:34.45 | MG_Tak | hmm |
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| 21:35.26 | kergoth | have you ever used an irc bounce, like dircproxy? |
| 21:35.42 | ChipX86 | but it's very far down the line. Lots needs tob e done first |
| 21:36.30 | kergoth | ctrlproxy? havent tried that one |
| 21:36.37 | kergoth | good? |
| 21:41.33 | MG_Tak | ChipX86: does "user info" take a long time to display for you, in qoe-gaim? |
| 21:42.00 | ChipX86 | MG_Tak: what protocol? |
| 21:43.37 | MG_Tak | ChipX86: AOL, I think |
| 21:44.24 | ChipX86 | doesn't take too long here |
| 21:44.28 | ChipX86 | but it's not instant |
| 21:44.33 | MG_Tak | ok |
| 21:45.02 | MG_Tak | SharpROM that is |
| 21:48.23 | kergoth | hm, i think the freeswan devs only have collie units atm |
| 21:50.14 | kergoth | ibot: collie |
| 21:50.34 | | methinks collie is sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog |
| 21:50.34 | kergoth | 5600 is poodle |
| 21:50.34 | MG_Tak | oh yeah |
| 21:50.34 | MG_Tak | nevermind |
| 21:50.34 | MG_Tak | poodle :) |
| 21:51.47 | lpotter_ | ibot: sheepdog |
| 21:51.52 | | lpotter_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 21:52.15 | lpotter_ | ibot: Saint Bernard |
| 21:52.16 | | lpotter_: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 21:52.32 | lpotter_ | ibot: Schnauzer |
| 21:52.33 | | lpotter_: I give up, what is it? |
| 21:52.55 | lpotter_ | hmmm no new pdas coming from sharp apparently |
| 21:54.56 | kergoth | heh, there will be, once the build transition is over |
| 21:55.42 | MG_Tak | (ie: too busy with class and work to be able to care much :/ ) |
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| 22:12.08 | George- | ibot seen mark |
| 22:12.18 | | mark <~mark@42dbce11.leased.aros.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 30d 8h 3m 13s ago, saying: 'whats up'. |
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| 22:16.12 | TCMAN | hi |
| 22:18.33 | kergoth | hey TCMAN |
| 22:20.25 | TCMAN | kergoth: how is it going? |
| 22:20.31 | kergoth | pretty good, you? |
| 22:21.08 | TCMAN | kergoth: good, just waiting for a build to finish ... :) |
| 22:21.13 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:21.21 | kergoth | adding more packages to oe myself |
| 22:21.29 | kergoth | ~/coding/projects/user/oe-metadata/packages$ ls -p|grep /|grep -v \\.|grep -v 'conf/'|grep -v 'tmp/'|wc -l |
| 22:21.34 | George- | TCMAN: I _LOVE_ the Radeon 9600 Mobility :D |
| 22:21.34 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.46 | Taro | ack |
| 22:21.58 | TCMAN | George-: who doesnt :))) your tibook has it ? |
| 22:22.02 | George- | TCMAN: no |
| 22:22.08 | George- | TCMAN: my new PowerBook has it :P |
| 22:22.13 | George- | (it's not a tibook) |
| 22:22.24 | George- | my tibook has the retarded M6 LY |
| 22:22.26 | TCMAN | kergoth: 127 packages in new build system ? |
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| 22:22.36 | kergoth | TCMAN: yep |
| 22:22.43 | Taro | if I do "mount -o rw /dev/mmcda1 /mnt/card" and look at /proc/mounts, its STILL mounted ro |
| 22:22.49 | Taro | WHY? |
| 22:22.52 | TCMAN | kergoth: pretty cool :) |
| 22:23.16 | kergoth | Taro: errors on the card can cause that |
| 22:23.31 | TCMAN | George-: powerbook, tibook, whats the difference :))) |
| 22:23.44 | Taro | what sort of errors? its freshly formatted right out of my PC |
| 22:23.52 | kergoth | umount it and fsck it |
| 22:23.57 | George- | TCMAN: one's made of titanium, the other's not? :) |
| 22:23.59 | Taro | ok |
| 22:24.33 | TCMAN | George-: so your new powerbook is made of what, plastics ? |
| 22:24.47 | George- | TCMAN: Aluminium |
| 22:24.55 | TCMAN | George-: cheapskates ... :) |
| 22:25.14 | George- | TCMAN: actually, it's a LOT better built |
| 22:25.20 | George- | TCMAN: Titanium is an evil material to work with |
| 22:25.41 | TCMAN | George-: i know |
| 22:26.14 | TCMAN | George-: but the only other titanium notebook was IBM T20/23 and only partly |
| 22:26.53 | TCMAN | George-: i like magnesium alloy cases |
| 22:27.27 | TCMAN | this economic downturn caused more notebooks to be built from crappy plastics |
| 22:28.25 | fliplap | my dell is magnesium allow, and its still a piece of crap |
| 22:28.29 | Taro | YAY |
| 22:28.32 | TCMAN | what good is pentium 4 notebook if it bends and will probably break under its own weight ? |
| 22:28.36 | kergoth | Taro: ? |
| 22:28.56 | Taro | It had 1 error |
| 22:29.10 | Taro | and fixing it fixes the mount problem |
| 22:29.19 | kergoth | ah, good good |
| 22:29.29 | TCMAN | fliplap: dell is a POC by definition :) |
| 22:29.38 | fliplap | yup |
| 22:29.49 | Taro | never seen it silently mount ro like that. Surprised there is no fsck option |
| 22:29.57 | Taro | oh well |
| 22:30.00 | Taro | it works |
| 22:30.10 | Taro | thanks! |
| 22:30.15 | fliplap | Apple needs to come out with an subcompact notebook |
| 22:30.23 | Taro | hmm |
| 22:30.24 | fliplap | something ~3lbs |
| 22:30.42 | fliplap | 10 or 12" screen, no onboard optical drive |
| 22:30.43 | Taro | my Zaurus is lighter :) |
| 22:30.47 | TCMAN | something of u101 size :) |
| 22:31.01 | fliplap | nah, the u101 is too small for me to use as a notebook |
| 22:31.16 | fliplap | something Panasonic CF-R1 size |
| 22:31.26 | TCMAN | or sharp mm10 |
| 22:31.37 | fliplap | yes, those are sweet |
| 22:31.37 | TCMAN | this thing is FLAT! |
| 22:32.01 | fliplap | sharp has always made nifty gadget type stuff |
| 22:32.06 | TCMAN | too bad it has crappy graphics |
| 22:32.09 | fliplap | expensive nifty gadget type stuff |
| 22:32.18 | Taro | the new 6000 looks like it will hot |
| 22:32.19 | fliplap | i could care less about graphics performance in a notebook |
| 22:32.25 | TCMAN | thats why i like u101 |
| 22:32.58 | Taro | my boss told me I get one when it comes out and I can hand off my old Z to someone else |
| 22:33.15 | fliplap | the 6000 looks alittle big to me |
| 22:33.21 | gerrynjr | Taro> as in give it away? |
| 22:33.29 | TCMAN | zaurus 6000 ? |
| 22:33.37 | Taro | yeah |
| 22:33.38 | gerrynjr | Taro> what kind of trick do I need to do to get it? |
| 22:33.45 | gerrynjr | Taro> bark like a dog? |
| 22:33.49 | Taro | give it to someone else in the office here |
| 22:33.51 | gerrynjr | Taro> chase my tail? |
| 22:33.55 | gerrynjr | oh.. damn |
| 22:33.55 | Taro | not anyone |
| 22:33.56 | TCMAN | Taro: what is zaurus 6000 ? |
| 22:34.02 | gerrynjr | Taro> I try :-D |
| 22:34.25 | George- | What's the 6000?!?!??!?!?!?!??! |
| 22:34.31 | Taro | TCMAN - latest model not yet available |
| 22:34.51 | Taro | google for it, or I can try finding the link |
| 22:34.53 | TCMAN | Taro: yes, but do you have any specs or pictures ? |
| 22:35.04 | Taro | on the web |
| 22:35.39 | Taro | dunno if ZIC lets me cutnpaste |
| 22:35.41 | Taro | hold on |
| 22:36.01 | George- | yuck, the Zaurus 6000 looks like those HP laptops |
| 22:36.10 | TheMasterMind1 | pics? |
| 22:36.56 | Taro | http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=77&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 22:37.03 | Taro | try there |
| 22:37.54 | Taro | the 6000 looks almost like my 5600 although supposedly slightly bigger |
| 22:38.00 | TCMAN | i think i prefer c7xx style |
| 22:38.12 | TheMasterMind1 | wow |
| 22:38.16 | TheMasterMind1 | built in wifi and bt and usbhost |
| 22:38.16 | Taro | I like the slide-down over the clamshell |
| 22:38.20 | gerrynjr | i think it looks kcik ass |
| 22:38.29 | TCMAN | i can always paint my 5500 black :) |
| 22:38.36 | Taro | MasterMind - and double the RAM |
| 22:38.57 | Taro | I wonder if the USB is 2.0 |
| 22:39.03 | TheMasterMind1 | i agree, looks like an ugly hp laptop |
| 22:39.19 | George- | TCMAN: spray paint it! |
| 22:39.38 | Taro | it looks like a prototype to me - the final version will likely be different |
| 22:39.48 | TCMAN | George-: i have actually seen someone selling sl5500 painted yellow |
| 22:40.07 | fliplap | i should have a friend do mine |
| 22:40.11 | TCMAN | George-: i wonder if there is any paint thinner to remove this ugly silver color |
| 22:40.12 | fliplap | i have a friend that paints cars |
| 22:40.16 | Taro | hmm - paited buttons or fif they keep those? |
| 22:40.25 | fliplap | TCMAN: heh, thats stuff comes right off anyway |
| 22:40.39 | fliplap | TCMAN: i'm sure almost any paint thinner will do it |
| 22:40.41 | George- | actually, now that I see the real pictures of the SL6000 as opposed to 3D renderings, I like it a bit more |
| 22:40.45 | George- | ...but not much. |
| 22:41.04 | Pendalar | what speed will it be though? |
| 22:41.06 | TCMAN | hmm, weekend project coming |
| 22:41.15 | Taro | maybe dark metal flake blue on my 5600 with the stock silver buttons |
| 22:42.03 | TheMasterMind1 | clamshell is nicer though.. bigger keyboard.. |
| 22:42.03 | Taro | Pen - guessung the same CPU config as the 7xx |
| 22:42.03 | George- | Pendalar: I'd hazard a guess that it's still a PXA255 @ 400MHz, or they might have stuffed in a PXA255 at 600MHz :) |
| 22:42.11 | Pendalar | George-: I think you will be disappointed ;-) |
| 22:42.22 | Taro | 600MHz? |
| 22:42.31 | Taro | I think Im gettin a stiffy |
| 22:43.14 | TCMAN | i would leave the big round button unpainted only |
| 22:43.20 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot zaurus 6000 |
| 22:43.27 | | TheMasterMind1: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 22:43.38 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot: zaurus 6000 is http://www.zaurususergroup.com/images/6000/ or http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=77&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 22:43.40 | | TheMasterMind1: okay |
| 22:44.03 | Taro | TCMAN - how would you avoid painting over the silkscreen? |
| 22:44.04 | George- | ibot warlord |
| 22:44.06 | | George-: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 22:44.19 | George- | ibot warlord is see zaurus 6000 |
| 22:44.20 | | George-: okay |
| 22:44.25 | George- | ibot warlord |
| 22:44.26 | | rumour has it, warlord is see zaurus 6000 |
| 22:45.05 | TCMAN | Taro: i would take the whole thing apart |
| 22:45.16 | MEME|work | something seems weird |
| 22:45.26 | MEME|work | when i do an ipkg update/upgrade |
| 22:45.35 | MEME|work | it does a full upgarde (to opie 1.0) |
| 22:45.45 | MEME|work | but if i do it again it does the same thing again |
| 22:45.52 | MEME|work | like it didn't before |
| 22:46.05 | MEME|work | even says my packages are still old |
| 22:46.07 | TCMAN | Taro: well either i will paint it and it will work or i will paint it and it will get fsck up and i will buy toshiba e740 on ebay :) |
| 22:46.19 | Taro | lol |
| 22:46.34 | Taro | lemme know if it works |
| 22:47.11 | Taro | maybe I'll paint it with white epoxy appliance paint so I can use the Z as a whiteboard |
| 22:47.38 | TCMAN | now where i can get some interesting paint |
| 22:47.46 | Taro | I use the clear cover for that |
| 22:47.50 | TCMAN | i have only black matte spray paint at home |
| 22:47.56 | TCMAN | i think glossy red would be cool |
| 22:48.08 | Taro | get that hot-wheels temperature sensitive paint |
| 22:48.34 | Taro | or the pearl paint that change color based on what angle you see them at |
| 22:50.38 | MEME|work | anyone know why it does that? |
| 22:51.38 | Taro | hmm |
| 22:51.47 | TCMAN | Taro: i wonder where i can get some funny paint around sunnyvale |
| 22:51.52 | Taro | try it in console |
| 22:51.57 | MEME|work | thi is in console |
| 22:52.03 | Taro | oh |
| 22:52.07 | Taro | no errors? |
| 22:52.11 | MEME|work | no errors |
| 22:52.12 | TCMAN | home depot ? |
| 22:52.16 | TCMAN | or some auto store |
| 22:52.26 | MEME|work | updates every package |
| 22:52.38 | MEME|work | supposedly |
| 22:52.42 | MEME|work | how do i check... |
| 22:53.09 | Taro | TCMAN try the auto store |
| 22:53.20 | Taro | MEME - read the output |
| 22:55.54 | MEME|work | i can past ethe output if you like |
| 22:55.54 | MEME|work | :D |
| 22:55.54 | MEME|work | it's all Downloading, Upgrading, Downloading, Upgrading |
| 22:55.54 | MEME|work | 2 lines for every package |
| 22:55.57 | MEME|work | if i grep the /usr/lib/ipkg/info/ |
| 22:56.08 | MEME|work | theres only 3 packages that are not updated |
| 22:56.20 | MEME|work | but according to ipkg upgrade none of them are |
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| 23:07.56 | MEME|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.56 | MEME|work | Version: 1.0.0 |
| 23:08.08 | MEME|work | there was a blank line above Version |
| 23:09.00 | MEME|work | broke it |
| 23:10.12 | MEME|work | http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/openzaurus/stable/latest/Packages is bugged |
| 23:17.51 | MEME|work | reported |
| 23:17.55 | MEME|work | :D |
| 23:21.29 | gerrynjr | does opie use the latest qtopia? |
| 23:22.09 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:22.09 | MEME|work | i hope so |
| 23:22.15 | kergoth | opie is a fork of qtopia. |
| 23:22.25 | kergoth | the new qtopia stuff was *merged* into the opie source tree, yes. |
| 23:22.26 | MEME|work | i hope it uses XML i mean |
| 23:22.33 | kergoth | opie doesnt *use* qtopia |
| 23:22.41 | gerrynjr | ah.. cool |
| 23:22.50 | gerrynjr | sorry about the ambiguity |
| 23:22.50 | MEME|work | oh wow, cool wallpaper |
| 23:23.10 | MEME|work | this isn't right |
| 23:23.12 | lpotter_ | opie uses qtopia just its a cheap whore |
| 23:23.14 | MEME|work | my contacts are fubar |
| 23:23.19 | kergoth | ljp is a cheap whore |
| 23:23.23 | MEME|work | but if i open the .xml it's ok |
| 23:23.23 | lpotter_ | heee |
| 23:24.25 | gerrynjr | kergoth> so.. would I be correct in assuming that the latest version of qtopia-desktop for windows will not sync w/ the Z? |
| 23:24.34 | kergoth | gerrynjr: "the Z"? |
| 23:24.38 | kergoth | opie hasnt broken syncing |
| 23:24.39 | kergoth | unlike sharp |
| 23:24.45 | kergoth | it was sharp that broke it, not trolltech. |
| 23:24.51 | gerrynjr | kergoth> well that was in regards to the sharp rom |
| 23:25.01 | lpotter_ | ya! |
| 23:25.05 | lpotter_ | what he said! |
| 23:25.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:25.14 | gerrynjr | so.. sharp broke all syncing w/ any version of qtopia desktop? |
| 23:25.22 | gerrynjr | not just linux? |
| 23:25.27 | TheMasterMind1 | yes, sharp sucks |
| 23:25.37 | lpotter_ | we are hoping 1) sharp will write a qd plugin, or 2) someone else will write a qd plugin |
| 23:25.39 | gerrynjr | man.. smooth move sharp |
| 23:25.40 | MEME|work | all except Sharp's Own forked windows Qt D |
| 23:26.06 | MEME|work | hmm, have a linux pda but only support it with windows... |
| 23:26.13 | MEME|work | stupid |
| 23:27.40 | MEME|work | oh wow, the network panel rocks |
| 23:28.59 | MEME|work | this seems random... ipkg: *** Couldnt kill old gunzip process *** aborting |
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