| 00:01.10 | Luke-Jr | chris08: Euro means nothing to me |
| 00:04.57 | gerrynjr | man... valve is jsut beaten to death... |
| 00:05.04 | gerrynjr | not rumors have it the content was leaked |
| 00:05.07 | gerrynjr | er.. now |
| 00:06.01 | Luke-Jr | ?? |
| 00:06.15 | gerrynjr | Luke-Jr> valve... halflife 2 |
| 00:08.00 | chris08 | Luke multiply by 1.15 or so to get the amount in us dollars |
| 00:08.18 | Luke-Jr | gerrynjr: u got it to run on linux? |
| 00:08.49 | Luke-Jr | chris08: oh ok then... i got mine cheaper than that =p |
| 00:09.54 | Luke-Jr | gerrynjr: want me to send u the source for HL2? =p |
| 00:10.08 | gerrynjr | Luke-Jr> see pm |
| 00:10.12 | gerrynjr | and no, I don't want it |
| 00:12.37 | gerrynjr | http://www.tapwave.com/ |
| 00:12.40 | gerrynjr | I want one :-( |
| 00:14.45 | gerrynjr | Luke-Jr> ping? |
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| 00:21.03 | _munky | gerrynjr: i thought you were getting a z? |
| 00:21.16 | _munky | now you are getting some gameboy? |
| 00:21.23 | _munky | no comparison! |
| 00:21.30 | _munky | you are comparing linux to tony hawk.. |
| 00:21.42 | gerrynjr | hehe... |
| 00:27.02 | fliplap | i don't preorder anything |
| 00:27.13 | _munky | hey |
| 00:27.31 | _munky | does anyone know if you cna simple mount the zaurus as a hd? |
| 00:27.45 | fliplap | at least not from companies i've never heard of or for products i've never heard of |
| 00:29.17 | fliplap | "The much anticipated Zodiac* is expected to begin shipping in late October!" |
| 00:29.26 | treke | samba ships sharps images |
| 00:29.46 | fliplap | sorry, if you're 2 weeks away from the expected release date and you still dont have a solid release date it ain't gonna happen |
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| 00:30.21 | fliplap | "Tapwave is a privately funded startup company in the Silicon Valley." isn't that just a nail in the vaporware coffin |
| 00:32.10 | Disconnect | damn. the only prebuilt modules I can find for this wlan is for the 5x00 series. |
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| 02:21.52 | Luke-Jr | OMG... Why can't the handwriting thing recognize my ka or KA?? |
| 02:22.51 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:24.20 | Disconnect | yah.. has anyone done anything with the xstroke engine on Z? |
| 02:24.47 | Luke-Jr | xstroke? |
| 02:24.53 | Luke-Jr | kergoth: it recognized everything else I drew |
| 02:25.39 | Disconnect | Luke-Jr: 2nd gen open handwriting engine. (well.. graffiti engine..) way tunable and easy to use. (and by now I suspect it can be called 3rd gen, since its changed/advanced quite a lot in the past couple of years..) |
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| 02:56.56 | Luke-Jr | Disconnect: for the Z? |
| 02:57.13 | Luke-Jr | Disconnect: where can I get? =p |
| 02:57.25 | treke | Luke-Jr: It's an X app |
| 02:57.35 | Disconnect | Luke-Jr: thats what I'm wondering. its originally for X, was wondering if anyone had ported the engine.. |
| 02:59.23 | Disconnect | it was really neat, just used a 3x3 grid (sized to fit whatever stroke you used) and just based on what squares you hit in what order, it was amazingly accurate.. (no displayed grid.. but - eg - 75[3]2[1]59 would be the swoopy-e that graffiti uses.. [] being optional hits..) |
| 03:00.33 | treke | of course it requires a ton of prepopulated data |
| 03:00.58 | Disconnect | it came with 3 sets or so. |
| 03:01.08 | treke | Disconnect: I mean character set data |
| 03:02.15 | treke | Disconnect: you have to specify a lot of misspellings |
| 03:02.20 | Disconnect | right. it came with default, a truely-graffiti-like one and (IIRC) one based on wince.. |
| 03:03.42 | treke | one of the things that held me up on my first try was qregex's suckage :p |
| 03:03.50 | Disconnect | qregex? |
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| 03:35.31 | Taro | hi |
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| 04:03.43 | chacs | hi |
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| 04:31.10 | Disconnect | anyone using the socket cf wlan card? the z won't leave it awake.. keeps putting it into suspend (cardctl resume gets it awake for about 4 commands..if they are all back to back.. then nothing..) |
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| 04:32.30 | conundrum|away| | has anyone been able to get a D-Link DCF-660W card to work on QTOPIA w/kismet |
| 04:33.39 | Disconnect | conundrum: tell ya what.. if you go dig for why my card keeps going to sleep (after about 1/4 second..) I'll go find you a howto on getting that going ;) |
| 04:34.14 | conundrum | whats you card? |
| 04:34.43 | Disconnect | 'socket low power wlan card' (their only cf 802.11b card, uses the spectrum24 driver, decended from the orinoco drivers) |
| 04:35.04 | conundrum | what are you trying to use it on? |
| 04:35.16 | conundrum | model and OS |
| 04:36.12 | Disconnect | c760, cacko translation (default sharp kernel) |
| 04:36.23 | conundrum | O.o thats fun |
| 04:36.35 | conundrum | alright, ill see what i can find |
| 04:36.53 | Disconnect | yah. found lots of docs, built the modules, etc. but it hates me ;) |
| 04:37.27 | Disconnect | (I can literally go 'cardctl resume; iwconfig eth0 essid; ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4 up; iwconfig..ifconfig .. but anything longer than that and it is already asleep) |
| 04:38.06 | conundrum | ah, the joys of linux :P |
| 04:38.08 | Disconnect | found info on drivers for you for kismet: http://www.kismetwireless.net/Forum/Equipment/Messages/1033772460.903281 |
| 04:38.09 | Disconnect | heh |
| 04:38.15 | Disconnect | wlan-ng for whatever kernel you are running |
| 04:38.34 | conundrum | sweet, many thanks |
| 04:40.39 | Disconnect | np |
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| 04:44.09 | conundrum | hello redhate, i didnt know you had a zaurus too O.o |
| 04:45.44 | redhate | ? |
| 04:45.54 | redhate | do I know you |
| 04:45.54 | Disconnect | you try those drivers? |
| 04:46.26 | redhate | hmmm |
| 04:46.27 | redhate | me? |
| 04:47.05 | conundrum | redhate, im assuming the same frome thebroken since you just went there as well |
| 04:47.23 | conundrum | no, disconnect, im going insane looking for your answer |
| 04:47.28 | Disconnect | ah. me too ;) |
| 04:47.42 | redhate | oh, yeah |
| 04:47.52 | Disconnect | just for S&G I just built non-patched raw pure unadulterated sources (from pavel) .. same problem.. so thats not it :( |
| 04:47.59 | redhate | ahh, yes....the doomed Q that has haunted me for the last 3 days |
| 04:48.06 | redhate | I am currently looking... |
| 04:49.30 | Disconnect | redhate: whats dooming you? |
| 04:49.57 | conundrum | indeed redhate, what are you looking for? |
| 04:50.00 | conundrum | the more the crazier |
| 04:50.08 | redhate | smc2642 |
| 04:50.15 | redhate | wlan cf card |
| 04:50.17 | redhate | + |
| 04:50.22 | redhate | zaurus 5600 |
| 04:50.24 | redhate | + |
| 04:50.26 | redhate | kismet |
| 04:50.28 | redhate | = |
| 04:50.30 | redhate | not working |
| 04:50.39 | redhate | >:( <--- me |
| 04:50.45 | redhate | for the last three days |
| 04:50.47 | conundrum | DCF-660W |
| 04:50.52 | conundrum | +SL 5500 |
| 04:51.00 | conundrum | +kismet GUI version |
| 04:51.03 | conundrum | =poopoo |
| 04:51.26 | redhate | affirm |
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| 04:52.22 | W8TVI | conundrum, Wellenreiter II works nicely |
| 04:52.42 | W8TVI | well at least with my prism2.5 and sl-5500 |
| 04:52.51 | Disconnect | wow. trying that driver on my (highly patched) laptop did Bad Things |
| 04:53.07 | W8TVI | and its a gui |
| 04:54.00 | conundrum | w8t, i still have a bruise from that book you threw at me last time |
| 04:54.07 | conundrum | url? |
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| 04:54.31 | W8TVI | its in one of the feeds |
| 04:54.55 | conundrum | ? |
| 04:54.56 | W8TVI | wait |
| 04:55.00 | W8TVI | http://opie.net.wox.org/wellenreiter |
| 04:55.03 | W8TVI | that feed |
| 04:55.07 | conundrum | im using qtopia... |
| 04:55.21 | conundrum | qtopia+opie=not work i thought |
| 04:55.46 | W8TVI | well get openzaurus |
| 04:56.17 | conundrum | but then all of my qtopia stuff wouldnt work... |
| 04:56.25 | W8TVI | ??? |
| 04:56.32 | conundrum | im confused... |
| 04:57.49 | redhate | w8tvi, can you send me a copy of wellenreiter II? |
| 04:58.04 | redhate | their download section is down |
| 04:58.09 | redhate | has been for awhile I think |
| 04:58.27 | W8TVI | hmmm |
| 04:59.00 | redhate | ;z |
| 04:59.25 | redhate | what is opie? |
| 04:59.56 | W8TVI | ibot: opie |
| 04:59.58 | | rumour has it, opie is the Open Palmtop Integrated Environment. More info at http://opie.handhelds.org/ http://www.opie.info/ http://www.opie.us/ or in the #opie channel. Installation instructions at http://opie.handhelds.org/wiki/index.php?OpieInstallation or respect |
| 05:00.45 | W8TVI | redhate, I don't think I have a local copy of it |
| 05:02.14 | conundrum | ibot: your mom |
| 05:02.16 | | from memory, your mom is a ho-- |
| 05:02.20 | conundrum | LOL |
| 05:03.23 | conundrum | ok disconnect this forum is full of smart people, post here http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?showforum=4 |
| 05:05.34 | redhate | ibot: monkey |
| 05:05.35 | | bzquerylong cell.unm.edu 5155 |
| 05:05.45 | redhate | ;z |
| 05:06.15 | conundrum | ibot: ibot |
| 05:06.18 | | from memory, ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. |
| 05:06.35 | conundrum | ibot: want a beer? |
| 05:06.36 | | conundrum: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 05:06.40 | conundrum | lol |
| 05:08.22 | redhate | boy this is really chapping my ass |
| 05:08.27 | conundrum | disconnect youve driven me to the edge of my sanity, im tired and im going to go hang myself out of sheer frustration now |
| 05:09.27 | conundrum | redhate: yes i now hate my zaurus |
| 05:10.32 | redhate | >:| |
| 05:10.49 | treke | conundrum: want some rope? |
| 05:11.32 | conundrum | treke: no im going to rip out the line from my cable modem |
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| 05:12.06 | redhate | http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:ZRxhwgQx5eEJ:www.kismetwireless.net/cards.shtml+Kismet+SMC2642W&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 05:12.11 | redhate | my card is in that list |
| 05:13.40 | conundrum | so is mine |
| 05:13.44 | conundrum | >:| |
| 05:13.52 | conundrum | well i need to go to sleep |
| 05:14.04 | conundrum | half day or not some teacher will kill me if im sleepin |
| 05:17.28 | conundrum | bye everyone |
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| 05:22.24 | Disconnect | conundrum: thanks for looking ;) |
| 05:22.32 | Disconnect | lemme know how the wlan-ng driver works sout |
| 05:25.12 | Disconnect | fyi I tried it under winxp .. same thing, only it looped through reset instead of just flatlining. so maybe its the card... |
| 05:25.18 | redhate | how do you search for a certain file, like kismet.conf |
| 05:25.29 | Disconnect | search the web or the Z? |
| 05:25.48 | Disconnect | for the Z the best bet is prolly install locate. or - in that case - do 'ipkg files kismet' |
| 05:26.00 | redhate | do you know the terminal cmd in linux to preform a search? |
| 05:26.17 | Disconnect | locate |
| 05:26.40 | W8TVI | redhate: kismet.conf is in /etc |
| 05:26.50 | Disconnect | but chances are its not installed (it walks the drives once a night and builds a db) alternately use find.. there's a flag to say 'only this filesystem' (you want that, its likely not on your rom) |
| 05:27.41 | redhate | thanks |
| 05:28.52 | redhate | bah! |
| 05:29.25 | redhate | I have no clue how to get this to work, I guess I'll just return it and get one thats known to work... |
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| 05:53.19 | redhate | how do you get the the internal memory via cd? |
| 05:53.28 | redhate | what dir is it |
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| 05:59.06 | redhate | help |
| 05:59.07 | redhate | ;9 |
| 06:03.57 | tbux | redhate, whassup? |
| 06:05.45 | redhate | grrrr |
| 06:05.50 | redhate | how do you get the the internal memory via cd? |
| 06:05.54 | redhate | what dir is it |
| 06:08.57 | tbux | via cd? You want to know how much you have or how to get to the usable portion of onboard memory? |
| 06:09.37 | redhate | no |
| 06:09.45 | redhate | I want to cd to that directory so I can untar a file |
| 06:09.59 | redhate | I think... I dunno, I have no idea what I'm doing ;) |
| 06:10.09 | redhate | let me reread the readme, brb |
| 06:10.19 | tbux | that's a bad start;-) |
| 06:10.34 | redhate | this readme is horribly compiled |
| 06:10.38 | redhate | doesn't make sense |
| 06:10.40 | tbux | I agree. |
| 06:10.53 | tbux | You use any kinda unix before? |
| 06:13.43 | redhate | yeah |
| 06:13.50 | redhate | very little |
| 06:14.27 | redhate | this readme is telling me kismet.conf is suppose to be already on my zaurus, is this right? |
| 06:14.29 | tbux | Ok- to find where your file systems are mounted, you can do df. That'll tell you what devices you have, where they're mounted , and how much space is left. |
| 06:16.25 | redhate | cool thanks |
| 06:18.17 | redhate | how do you find a file? |
| 06:20.23 | stigger | find pathname search |
| 06:21.19 | redhate | how the hell do you compile something within zaurus? I guess I need a SD card for this to work? |
| 06:21.33 | treke|ho1e | You compile on a desktop, not the zaurus |
| 06:21.51 | redhate | in win xp? |
| 06:21.52 | redhate | erm |
| 06:21.52 | W8TVI | but you can on the Z |
| 06:21.54 | tbux | Usu, you don't compile stuff directly on the Z. There isn't enough space to hold the compiler and all the source. |
| 06:22.08 | W8TVI | thats what an SD or CF card is for |
| 06:22.24 | redhate | k but I am in winxp, so no go? |
| 06:22.40 | tbux | redhate, You gotta use a cross-compiler, dude. If you're using XP, I recommend CygWIN. |
| 06:22.56 | redhate | alright thanks, ill check it out |
| 06:23.14 | tbux | Get yourself prepared. It ain't easy. |
| 06:23.19 | tbux | You really gotta wanna do it. |
| 06:23.22 | redhate | sorry, im getting alittle restless. I've been working on this since 1pm |
| 06:23.46 | W8TVI | personaly I wouldnt trust CygWIN to cross compile right |
| 06:23.55 | tbux | I just about came unguled the first time I broke out my z, and I'v been running *nix for years. |
| 06:24.07 | tbux | Embedded systems are just different's all. |
| 06:25.04 | treke|ho1e | W8TVI: Why not? |
| 06:25.23 | treke|ho1e | it's nothing magic, just a cross compiler, like anything else |
| 06:25.50 | W8TVI | its hard enough getting something to compile to run ON cygwin |
| 06:26.15 | W8TVI | besides... its running on windows |
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| 06:31.09 | redhate | I wonder how big this is? |
| 06:36.23 | redhate | man, this is way over my head. |
| 06:36.46 | redhate | I'm not sure I need to do all this, has anyone else every installed kismet on their zaurus? |
| 06:36.51 | redhate | do i need to compile it? |
| 06:37.00 | W8TVI | no need |
| 06:37.12 | redhate | whats needed? |
| 06:37.49 | redhate | I've read the readme several times |
| 06:37.52 | W8TVI | just install it... |
| 06:38.05 | redhate | it says that kismet.conf is suppose to be in etc. I don't see it. |
| 06:38.22 | W8TVI | OZ or Sharp? |
| 06:38.29 | redhate | Sharp |
| 06:39.10 | W8TVI | what are you installing? |
| 06:39.16 | W8TVI | ipk? |
| 06:39.18 | redhate | kismet |
| 06:39.20 | redhate | yeah |
| 06:39.49 | W8TVI | ok, go to the terminal and type: cd /etc |
| 06:39.54 | redhate | k |
| 06:40.10 | W8TVI | then: ls | grep kismet |
| 06:41.13 | redhate | nothing |
| 06:41.20 | W8TVI | then its not installed |
| 06:42.06 | redhate | Add / Remove Programs says kismet 2.6.0 in installed packages |
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| 06:42.26 | redhate- | Add / Remove Programs says kismet 2.6.0 in installed packages |
| 06:42.32 | W8TVI | remove it |
| 06:42.35 | redhate- | ill uninstall and reinstall |
| 06:42.51 | W8TVI | no |
| 06:42.56 | W8TVI | uninstall |
| 06:43.01 | W8TVI | then download this: http://www.kismetwireless.net/code/kismet-zaurus-pcap-arm-2.8.1.tar.gz |
| 06:43.22 | W8TVI | I think the sharp drivers have pcap |
| 06:45.27 | W8TVI | install that ipk and then follow the readme |
| 06:45.45 | redhate- | I uninstalled and reinstalled |
| 06:45.54 | redhate- | ls | grep kismet = nothing still |
| 06:47.02 | W8TVI | no, just uninstall |
| 06:47.12 | redhate- | this readme is shit |
| 06:47.17 | W8TVI | and install the one from the kismet website |
| 06:47.19 | redhate- | says 'compile' for the first step |
| 06:47.25 | W8TVI | ~lart redhate- |
| 06:47.58 | redhate- | lol this is the wrost readme i've ever read >:( |
| 06:47.59 | redhate- | kd'apdh;saihd |
| 06:48.12 | redhate- | compile and install = first stpe |
| 06:48.13 | redhate- | step |
| 06:48.24 | W8TVI | kergoth: is this the kinda people that you had to deal with? |
| 06:49.21 | redhate- | sorry, ive just been at this for a long time |
| 06:49.33 | W8TVI | redhate-: GO TO BED |
| 06:49.36 | redhate- | usualy when I have to ask for help i get pissy... |
| 06:49.43 | redhate- | at this hour |
| 06:49.50 | W8TVI | it'll be there for you in the morning |
| 06:49.56 | redhate- | rgr client exiting |
| 06:50.10 | W8TVI | heh |
| 06:57.01 | W8TVI | I think I'll go to bed too |
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| 07:11.02 | W8TVI|z | hmm |
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| 14:21.11 | Ludo | someone can help me with my zaurus and usb connection, i use kernel 2.6.0-test7 |
| 14:21.58 | Ludo | but i don't have usb0 device anywhere :( |
| 14:33.43 | gerrynjr | dum dum dum |
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| 17:07.32 | gerrynjr | rev, yo! |
| 17:09.08 | treke | rev, die! |
| 17:12.16 | gerrynjr | treke> allo |
| 17:12.42 | gerrynjr | man.. college libraries kick ass... |
| 17:12.59 | gerrynjr | the sights are great.. forget about da books |
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| 17:42.49 | ZipLock | Can someone help me install the LiveQT client? It's not an IPKG and I don't know what to do with it |
| 17:53.41 | Disconnect | un[zip/tar] it and see whats inside. prolly an install or readme file. |
| 18:01.20 | ZipLock | Nope, 3 files: liveqt.arm liveqt.x11 and liveqtrc |
| 18:01.33 | ZipLock | liveqt.arm appears to be execuatable and starts the client |
| 18:02.06 | ZipLock | When I execute it from the shell |
| 18:03.29 | Disconnect | put it in the path (/usr/local/bin is prolly good) and go intto the tab manager. that'll let you add a new launcher entry for it. |
| 18:03.48 | Disconnect | fyi which rom are you on? |
| 18:03.54 | ZipLock | OpenZaurus 3.2 |
| 18:04.08 | ZipLock | I just got this thing the other day and I'm still getting the feel of it |
| 18:04.12 | Disconnect | ah. well give that a try, if ti doesn't work tag the OZ guys.. |
| 18:04.51 | ZipLock | k, thanx |
| 18:10.49 | treke | better yet, ask the author |
| 18:13.13 | Disconnect | treke: ..how to create a launcher icon? he's got it open and installed and working. he just hasn't got a button. |
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| 19:38.03 | neoghz7 | anyone know of a good battery monitor? |
| 19:39.03 | treke | the built in one? |
| 19:39.09 | neoghz7 | its poo poo |
| 19:39.20 | neoghz7 | and i cant tell how charged it is |
| 19:39.28 | treke | It's as good as you will get :) |
| 19:39.39 | neoghz7 | darn |
| 19:39.46 | Luke-Jr | neoghz7: it would require at minimal a new kernel |
| 19:40.04 | neoghz7 | oh really? wow i didnt realize it was that integrated |
| 19:40.12 | Luke-Jr | neoghz7: cat /proc/apm |
| 19:40.13 | treke | the best you can get is a slightly more accurate percentage |
| 19:40.28 | Luke-Jr | treke: nope. kernel only reports 24,50,75,100,225 |
| 19:40.31 | Luke-Jr | 25* |
| 19:40.38 | treke | Luke-Jr: I know full well what the kernel reports |
| 19:41.07 | Luke-Jr | can't get more accurate until kernel is fixed |
| 19:41.16 | Luke-Jr | tho it could even be hardware reporting such vagueness |
| 19:41.19 | Luke-Jr | which would be bad |
| 19:41.28 | Luke-Jr | my question is... how do I get the builtin one? ;.; |
| 19:41.48 | treke | Luke-Jr: The kernel can report things a bit better, there are still limits with the information actually available to the kernel |
| 19:42.15 | Luke-Jr | treke: so the hardware doesn't even report any more detail? :/ |
| 19:42.23 | neoghz7 | anyone had experience setting up kismet? i cant seem to get it working |
| 19:42.44 | treke | Luke-Jr: The hardware doesnt give you a percentage, but it doesn't give you a whole lot of information to work with, refer to the source :) |
| 19:43.21 | Luke-Jr | treke: So basicly the Z needs to guess a % from amount of power the battery gives it? :/ |
| 19:44.23 | neoghz7 | luke: im pretty sure the meter runs off voltage |
| 19:47.27 | Luke-Jr | :( |
| 19:49.51 | Disconnect | neoghz7: for kismet just edit /usr/etc/kismet.conf (IIRC - run ipkg files kismet to get it exactly) according to the docs and comments |
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| 19:56.15 | Disconnect | random question.. anyone using the cacko rom? can't get the network config to run |
| 19:59.30 | conundrum | bout time the netowrk dropped me |
| 19:59.31 | Disconnect | hey.. did those wlan-ng drivers work? |
| 19:59.41 | Disconnect | btw if you register with nickserv you can ghost your old connections |
| 20:00.17 | conundrum | where do i get those drivers? that was just a forum or sumthin |
| 20:00.24 | Disconnect | conundrum: oh and I found my problem. the sharp roms have no fewer than 6 places you need to edit to enable the card. (instead of just checking wireless.opts, network.opts, symbol.opts - at most - it went through all sorts of crap..) |
| 20:00.31 | Disconnect | what dist? |
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| 20:01.03 | conundrum | qtopia 3.1 |
| 20:01.21 | Disconnect | just google.com/search?q=wlan-ng+mydistgoeshere and if that doesn't work, wlan-ng+mykernelversionhere ;) |
| 20:01.56 | conundrum | whoa...i thought this was 3. |
| 20:01.57 | conundrum | 1 |
| 20:02.15 | conundrum | sys info says qtopia ver 1.5 |
| 20:02.18 | conundrum | O.o |
| 20:03.49 | Disconnect | this might be it: http://www.zaurii.com/zfi/index.phtml?p=d&d=461 |
| 20:08.55 | conundrum | thats for opie |
| 20:09.11 | conundrum | i just dont have much luck, do i |
| 20:09.12 | conundrum | lol |
| 20:16.30 | conundrum | should i just switch to open zaurus? |
| 20:22.54 | raduga | hello zauries |
| 20:23.04 | Disconnect | conundrum: it might work anyway. |
| 20:23.33 | Disconnect | the opie modules I found for mine were ok. check the associated Packages file for dependencies on the correct kernel version, and (if its a new-style ipk) run 'dpkg -x my.ipk outdir' to extract it on the desktop. |
| 20:28.47 | raduga | hrm. is there a list of supported cf/sd cards out there anywhere? |
| 20:30.59 | Disconnect | sorta. lemme go find it, I was looking at it earlier |
| 20:34.30 | raduga | thanks :) |
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| 20:35.23 | Disconnect | http://zaurus.knightfire.com/ |
| 20:35.31 | Disconnect | its not real easy but its there ;) |
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| 21:01.52 | prodan | hi ho, what is your fav irc client for the z? |
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| 21:45.34 | MG_Tak | anyone port kopete to Z? |
| 21:45.42 | conundrum | this server hates me |
| 21:46.14 | conundrum | my god, how many "Inodes" are there on this thing? |
| 21:46.41 | treke | MG_Tak: Kopete would probably be too much work to port |
| 21:46.43 | treke | MG_Tak: just use gaim |
| 21:47.11 | MG_Tak | treke: I do |
| 21:49.35 | raduga | yo! |
| 21:53.26 | raduga | disco: is zaurus.knightfire.com being hosted off your zaurus? |
| 21:56.13 | Luke-Jr | LOL |
| 21:56.32 | Luke-Jr | treke: Kopete would have been less work to port, actually, since Kopete already uses Qt |
| 21:56.42 | gerrynjr | bastards! |
| 21:56.48 | gerrynjr | guy has 34 now! |
| 21:56.53 | gerrynjr | onooooooo! |
| 21:56.59 | Luke-Jr | o.o |
| 21:57.10 | gerrynjr | i _must_ win |
| 21:57.10 | treke | Luke-Jr: Looks to me like they'd have been more or less equally difficult |
| 21:57.38 | treke | with gaim actually having a slight advantage |
| 21:57.44 | raduga | have any of you seen the new clamshell clie? |
| 21:57.44 | gerrynjr | join #penzilla |
| 21:57.53 | gerrynjr | er.. oops |
| 21:58.18 | raduga | I saw it today at the bookstore, and it *really* looked cool :) |
| 21:58.53 | raduga | er. its put together well, it seems abou the right size and shape and everything; teh hardware would really rock, if only it had a useable OS |
| 21:59.15 | raduga | (it seems to be running an even more braindead palmos variant than other palmos variants) |
| 21:59.21 | gerrynjr | linux 9on the sony! |
| 21:59.39 | raduga | if the c760 looked just like this, I'd get one in a second :) |
| 21:59.40 | treke | Luke-Jr: Kopete is pretty heavily kde based |
| 21:59.55 | raduga | note: I haven't seen a C7xx yet |
| 21:59.57 | Luke-Jr | treke: is it? =p |
| 22:00.09 | raduga | gerrynjr: its very pretty. I hope Sharp is paying attention. |
| 22:00.12 | Luke-Jr | raduga: what's better about Sony's? |
| 22:00.52 | raduga | luke: I can't compare it for real to a C7xx as I have yet to touch one myself, but the clie really fit well in my hand, |
| 22:01.09 | raduga | felt comfortable and felt sturdy. and was really tiny. |
| 22:01.22 | raduga | and the keys are backlit, so you really can type in the dark |
| 22:01.25 | treke | the 7x00 is about the size of a 5500 |
| 22:01.59 | raduga | treke: I'm going (hopefully) to look at 5500s today. I might be getting a couple, soon. |
| 22:02.03 | Disconnect | raduga: no backlight, but it is just as comfy |
| 22:02.11 | raduga | disconnect: ok :) |
| 22:02.30 | raduga | I still want to see one before I'm willing to buy one though. (bleh) |
| 22:03.02 | raduga | it didn't seem as good in portrait (folded back to pda) mode |
| 22:03.02 | Disconnect | so I got it anyway. now I know why they all raved ;) |
| 22:03.43 | Disconnect | its a wee bit thicker than most pda's in portrait. and (like the palms) the soft buttons at the bottom aren't lit. (but, unlike the palm, they're not particularly essential) |
| 22:17.01 | treke | ? |
| 22:17.15 | treke | stylus is too far from the screen? |
| 22:17.22 | Luke-Jr | dunno, but I don't ever expect it to be so far away =p |
| 22:17.30 | Luke-Jr | Yea |
| 22:17.34 | Luke-Jr | put the stylus up front |
| 22:17.52 | Luke-Jr | But then it would be no good for landscape |
| 22:17.53 | Luke-Jr | o.o |
| 22:18.22 | Luke-Jr | treke: Do you have a C760? |
| 22:18.26 | treke | yes |
| 22:18.33 | Luke-Jr | treke: ever use it in portrait? |
| 22:18.38 | treke | yes |
| 22:18.44 | Luke-Jr | shrug |
| 22:18.49 | Luke-Jr | did you use Zaurus before the C760 |
| 22:18.50 | Luke-Jr | ? |
| 22:19.04 | treke | No. I used ipaqs |
| 22:19.08 | Luke-Jr | hrm |
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| 22:19.16 | Luke-Jr | well, I find it too far away =p |
| 22:19.30 | Luke-Jr | I'll likely get used to it tho |
| 22:19.43 | treke | the stylus is in your hand, you poke the screen with it |
| 22:19.50 | Luke-Jr | treke: when it's put away |
| 22:20.05 | gerrynjr | treke> there's other thing you can poke a screen with! |
| 22:20.14 | treke | gerrynjr: Keep them to yourself :) |
| 22:20.18 | gerrynjr | lmao |
| 22:20.37 | gerrynjr | Luke-Jr> we all know what you _really_ use.... |
| 22:20.39 | Luke-Jr | the screen is designed for tiny pointers like the stylus |
| 22:20.47 | gerrynjr | or something else that's tiny.... |
| 22:20.57 | Luke-Jr | Broken pens? |
| 22:21.08 | gerrynjr | nope |
| 22:21.19 | Luke-Jr | o.o |
| 22:21.21 | gerrynjr | something else that's apparently broken... |
| 22:21.32 | Luke-Jr | old CPUs? |
| 22:21.37 | Luke-Jr | w/ a pin bent forward? |
| 22:21.40 | gerrynjr | hmm... tiny.. broken.. use to poke |
| 22:21.51 | raduga | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.53 | Luke-Jr | my video card? o.o |
| 22:21.59 | Luke-Jr | raduga: won't that scratch it? |
| 22:22.03 | raduga | for some reason my nails dont register well on the Jornada screen though |
| 22:22.24 | raduga | luke: it hasn't been a problem so far |
| 22:22.39 | treke | a nail wouldnt scratch the screen that much more than a hard piece of plastic |
| 22:22.52 | Luke-Jr | nails are thinner |
| 22:22.58 | raduga | of course, the jornada has issues with calibration anyway. at least with the stylus I can get a little more accurate |
| 22:23.08 | Luke-Jr | BTW, has anyone wasted the time to calculate the # DPI the C760 has? =p |
| 22:25.14 | gerrynjr | http://www.jimmullen.com/ZoomSeq.asp?id=7948 |
| 22:25.22 | gerrynjr | err... I don't know how to use az computer! |
| 22:25.25 | gerrynjr | that's my disability |
| 22:29.53 | Luke-Jr | I don't have the source for Adobe whatever. |
| 22:29.56 | Luke-Jr | That's my disability. |
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| 22:39.08 | Taro | hi - I'm having trouble making an ipk out of Opera to move it (its a 5600). The ipk for OperaCreator won't load into the installer. Does anyone have experience with this? |
| 22:40.11 | Taro | I like Opera (at least the Zaurus version) and don't know how I'll feel about Konqueror .. and it didn't even run, so I'm a bit iffy about losing it |
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| 22:40.36 | Taro | I guess I can just mount the 1.32 ramfs on my desktop and get it off of there later. |
| 22:41.19 | Taro | Does anyone know of a hardware compatibility list? The Socket 10/100 card and Socket wireless card both work great. What about GPS and Camera cards? Anyone have a recommendation? |
| 22:42.02 | Disconnect | Taro: gimme a sec, there's a list |
| 22:42.12 | Disconnect | http://zaurus.knightfire.com/ |
| 22:42.17 | Disconnect | ibot: cf list |
| 22:42.19 | | Disconnect: i don't know |
| 22:42.23 | Disconnect | ibot: cf list is http://zaurus.knightfire.com/ |
| 22:42.25 | | okay, Disconnect |
| 22:42.37 | Taro | thanks |
| 22:44.14 | Taro | I wonder if Fry's has an open wireless network in the store, or at least Internet access on a demo machine so I can read the list online. Hmm .. wait - I have a Zaurus! I can just download it to it! |
| 22:44.15 | Taro | hehehe |
| 22:44.44 | Disconnect | its huge but that should work |
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| 22:44.55 | Disconnect | maybe tag the author/maintainer to put it in csv or some such ;) |
| 22:45.04 | bob_ | hey all |
| 22:45.25 | bob_ | i'm looking for a recommendation for a zaurus friendly cf wireless card with good credentials |
| 22:45.43 | Taro | that would be neat - if I have anything that works that isn't on the list I'll let the author kow |
| 22:46.03 | Taro | bob_: I use the AmbiCom CF card |
| 22:46.08 | Taro | Fry's carries it |
| 22:46.19 | Taro | there is also the list that was just posted |
| 22:46.26 | Taro | http://zaurus.knightfire.com/ |
| 22:46.46 | Taro | The AmbiCom comes with a CD with all these notes about drivers and windows and pocket PC |
| 22:46.51 | Taro | throw it all away |
| 22:46.57 | Taro | just stick the card in the slot and it works |
| 22:47.07 | Disconnect | ditto socket, only you need drivers (not hard to get or build) |
| 22:47.21 | bob_ | that's exactly what i'm looking for. I'm not in the mood the diddle with it |
| 22:47.25 | bob_ | recompile kernels, etc. |
| 22:47.54 | Luke-Jr | Taro: LOL |
| 22:47.58 | Taro | Disconnect: my 10/100 is Socket, and it worked out of the box |
| 22:48.39 | Taro | I've got a 5600 though - it may have updated drivers, so your mileage may vary |
| 22:48.40 | Disconnect | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?s=7d8c9441d98e5b6364c7f5ff5a75b5a8&showtopic=6040 |
| 22:48.49 | Disconnect | Taro: ..thats not the wireless ;) |
| 22:48.54 | Taro | ah |
| 22:48.57 | bob_ | mm, yeah ive just got a 5500 |
| 22:49.00 | Disconnect | nice shoot-out between ambicom and socket. |
| 22:49.11 | Taro | so I lucked out getting exactly the right ones of each brand? |
| 22:49.34 | Disconnect | for drivers, sure. for performance.. maybe ;) |
| 22:49.42 | Taro | of |
| 22:49.43 | Taro | oh |
| 22:49.43 | Taro | well |
| 22:49.51 | Taro | hmm |
| 22:50.12 | Disconnect | ambicom - 60ft .. socket, 140 ft plus 10 more if he faces it towards the ap... |
| 22:50.34 | Taro | hmm |
| 22:50.38 | Disconnect | distances may vary. but the relationship between them prolly won't ;) |
| 22:51.11 | Taro | so the difference is range. I get good signal most places I use it, so I'm not worried. |
| 22:51.26 | Taro | which uses less power? Does the socket use more juice? |
| 22:51.28 | Disconnect | horrible ad-hocishness from my laptop ;) |
| 22:52.14 | Disconnect | no, supposedly its the lowest. but thats supposedly. you can find specs for wince devices for both cards, do the comparison that way |
| 22:53.08 | Taro | k |
| 22:53.18 | Taro | I'm not too worried - I usually have power available |
| 22:54.29 | Taro | anyone have a recommendation on a media player that actually works? I tried OpiePlayer or something like that and it was aweful. The one that came with the Sharp s crap too. |
| 22:55.04 | Taro | should I just get a commercial one? I'd like to stream from a server to the Zaurus while I work and do other stuff. |
| 22:55.32 | Taro | and the hardware compat list doesn't mention GPS or Camera cards ... guess I'll try and see what happens |
| 22:58.57 | conundrum | streaming to a zaurus? thats kinda nutty |
| 22:59.11 | jdh41 | mplayer? |
| 22:59.22 | conundrum | disconnect i had to reflash my whole OS, im back at out of box status minus manuals etc |
| 22:59.34 | treke | but I seem to be the odd man out |
| 22:59.41 | Taro | mplayer I couldn't get installed, and didn't seem to work at all - instant crash |
| 22:59.56 | Taro | conundrum: why is it nutty? |
| 23:00.02 | Taro | mainly just want it to stream mp3s |
| 23:00.27 | Taro | treke: opieplayer played very choppy and played too fast |
| 23:00.28 | jdh41 | Taro: xmms-e |
| 23:00.50 | conundrum | decent rate is 128 kbps, your WLAN card might barely do that (no matter what the stats say) and even then do you think 400mhz could crunch it all |
| 23:01.05 | treke | Taro: don't know what to tell you, it's always done that |
| 23:01.09 | treke | conundrum: yes it can |
| 23:01.35 | Taro | 128kbps shouldn't be too hard, but right now I can't play stuff even if I download it first |
| 23:01.40 | treke | conundrum: I've used my ipaq for streaming audio quite a bit. |
| 23:01.56 | conundrum | my only other PDA is my Z71 |
| 23:02.06 | conundrum | and im lucky i got that running aeroplayer O.o |
| 23:02.12 | treke | and if your wireless card can barely pull 128Kbps you need to sell it and buy a new one |
| 23:02.15 | raduga | my 90mhz pentium can play 128kpbs :) |
| 23:02.29 | conundrum | my 133mhz couldnt |
| 23:02.42 | Taro | conundrum: under Windows or Linux? |
| 23:03.05 | conundrum | windows, which probably explains it |
| 23:03.08 | Taro | yeah, linux is a bit nicer about that |
| 23:03.18 | conundrum | linux is a lot nicer over all |
| 23:03.29 | conundrum | my z runs smoother than my brand new dell |
| 23:03.30 | Taro | true - which is why its the only OS I really use anymore |
| 23:03.35 | conundrum | as far as crashing |
| 23:03.48 | Disconnect | Luke-Jr: want a new startup screen for the 760? its not really open source tho ;) (original image from digitalblasphemy) |
| 23:04.11 | treke | hmm that reminds me, my digitalblashemy subscription needs renewing |
| 23:04.14 | conundrum | i could use a cool background for my z, if only i knew how to load it onto qtopia |
| 23:04.18 | Taro | I've had more problems with the Zaurus than I care to admit. But its a 5600 and I keep trying to put software on it for OZ mixing with the sharp ROMs and I multitask alot and run out of RAM |
| 23:04.29 | treke | conundrum: You can't :) |
| 23:04.34 | conundrum | i have a 5500, gotta love ebay |
| 23:04.41 | Taro | work paid for mine |
| 23:04.55 | raduga | conundrum: hee. |
| 23:05.00 | Taro | I told em I could run ethereal on it and they were sold |
| 23:05.04 | raduga | i'm considering ebaying a pair of 5500s |
| 23:05.11 | Disconnect | treke: heh np |
| 23:05.20 | Taro | we're big into nmap and ethereal |
| 23:05.30 | treke | shoot it expired |
| 23:06.01 | Taro | anyone had experience with the XGA display card? |
| 23:06.26 | conundrum | i couldnt get kismet working, but i havent tried on the new os yet |
| 23:07.40 | treke | oh well, 25 bucks a year is worh it |
| 23:08.01 | Taro | 25 a year for what? |
| 23:08.16 | Disconnect | digitalblasphemy |
| 23:08.25 | Taro | the image place? |
| 23:08.34 | Disconnect | yep |
| 23:08.40 | tux_mike | make sure you have plenty of hdd space |
| 23:08.49 | Taro | I prefer more abstract stuff ... so I make my own with Gimp |
| 23:09.27 | Taro | the bump-map effect is one of my favorites. you can do really neat 3D effects |
| 23:09.34 | Taro | I wish I could have Gimp on my Zaurus :) |
| 23:10.15 | treke | Disconnect: the only problem is I so rarely see my background :( |
| 23:11.51 | Taro | hehe - same here |
| 23:12.46 | Taro | a digital image site for getting backgrounds onto your zaurus |
| 23:13.08 | conundrum | will it work for my sl 5500? |
| 23:13.19 | gerrynjr | WHY NOT JUST MAKE YOUR OWN? |
| 23:13.34 | treke | conundrum: You can't change the background on zaurus |
| 23:13.42 | conundrum | :( |
| 23:14.05 | Taro | wow - the XGA card will do 1024x768 in 256 colors, 848x480 and 800x600 in 16 bit color, and NTSC TV-out at 640x480 and 696x436. I think I want one |
| 23:14.18 | Taro | that and an IR keyboard would be sweet |
| 23:14.31 | Taro | too bad it takes up the CF slot |
| 23:14.48 | treke | well you can in some opie based roms |
| 23:15.23 | conundrum | ahh bad experience with opie today |
| 23:15.29 | conundrum | killed my zaurus |
| 23:15.33 | Taro | conundrum: really? why? |
| 23:15.57 | conundrum | i tried to flash opie on and it went X_X |
| 23:16.21 | treke | you probably forgot the kernel |
| 23:16.27 | conundrum | nope |
| 23:16.37 | conundrum | intrid and zImage were both on |
| 23:16.50 | treke | initrd.bin and zImage.bin? |
| 23:17.37 | conundrum | yepperz |
| 23:17.57 | Taro | lol |
| 23:18.10 | conundrum | do enlighten me treke |
| 23:18.18 | Taro | I installed OZ fine on my OZ, but Konqueror didn't work |
| 23:18.27 | Disconnect | treke: are the docs correct? I was fairly certain I'd c&p .. |
| 23:18.33 | treke | Disconnect: |
| 23:18.38 | gerrynjr | C&P? |
| 23:18.42 | gerrynjr | cought and puke? |
| 23:18.43 | treke | Disconnect: Probably. I havent read them |
| 23:18.45 | conundrum | i got konqueror embedded to work fine on qtopia |
| 23:18.46 | gerrynjr | cough rather |
| 23:18.47 | Disconnect | hahahaha |
| 23:18.47 | Disconnect | Be sure to rename your zImage-[5000d|5500]-Xmemory-Ystorage.bin to just "zImage" |
| 23:19.00 | Disconnect | gerrynjr: cut/paste |
| 23:19.00 | conundrum | i did...the second attempt |
| 23:19.06 | Disconnect | from http://openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/installguide |
| 23:19.13 | conundrum | i followed it! |
| 23:19.17 | Disconnect | so the docs are in fact wrong.. |
| 23:19.28 | treke | Disconnect: Those are for the 5500, that may be correct for the 5500 |
| 23:20.04 | conundrum | the sharp rom worked like a dream btw |
| 23:20.13 | Disconnect | ah. that'd explain the confusion tho - 7x0 users get quickly used to following 5500 directions with minor, standard changes.. ;) |
| 23:20.27 | Disconnect | perhaps a note could be added that 7x0 users should name it 'zImage.bin' .. or, better, a link to 7x0-specific docs |
| 23:20.45 | conundrum | treke, what did i do wrong? |
| 23:20.56 | treke | conundrum: beats me. i gave you a guess |
| 23:21.00 | conundrum | lol |
| 23:21.17 | conundrum | i thought you meant after changing the name there was something else |
| 23:21.30 | conundrum | must be that damn kompany shit |
| 23:21.37 | conundrum | its gone now :D |
| 23:21.49 | treke | Nope. I use zImage.bin, it works on my c760 |
| 23:21.55 | treke | well I think I do |
| 23:21.58 | conundrum | lol |
| 23:22.07 | treke | I don't flash my kernel that often |
| 23:22.24 | conundrum | i dont ever flash cournel sanders |
| 23:22.29 | conundrum | oh...that kernel |
| 23:24.31 | conundrum | ibot :opie |
| 23:24.33 | | extra, extra, read all about it, opie is the Open Palmtop Integrated Environment. More info at http://opie.handhelds.org/ http://www.opie.info/ http://www.opie.us/ or in the #opie channel. Installation instructions at http://opie.handhelds.org/wiki/index.php?OpieInstallation or respect |
| 23:26.09 | conundrum | ibot: sl 5500 |
| 23:26.10 | | conundrum: no idea |
| 23:26.18 | conundrum | ibot: get one |
| 23:26.19 | | conundrum: bugger all, i dunno |
| 23:27.45 | gerrynjr | if there was only a openz image for the 5600... |
| 23:28.07 | Taro | gerrynjr: there is a developer release |
| 23:28.24 | gerrynjr | Taro> image? or source? |
| 23:28.42 | Taro | anyone know anything about these Kompany ROMs? There is a 5600 release, but they have 2.4.18 and Embedix ... anyone know the pros and cons of each |
| 23:28.44 | Taro | gerrynjr: image |
| 23:28.58 | gerrynjr | Taro> link? |
| 23:29.01 | Taro | lemme get it |
| 23:29.09 | gerrynjr | Taro> you have a 5600? |
| 23:29.14 | Taro | yup |
| 23:29.20 | gerrynjr | Taro> how is it? |
| 23:29.49 | gerrynjr | and.. does sdl work in OZ? |
| 23:29.58 | Taro | the image worked ok - but Konqueor didn't work. As for the 5600 in general, I almost wish I had the 5500 for compatibility with OZ |
| 23:30.23 | Taro | I need ethereal and stuff and I have been unable to get alot of apps that I want from OZ working under the sharp ROM |
| 23:30.38 | gerrynjr | ah.. so not all apps run from the 5500 on the 56? |
| 23:30.44 | Taro | http://www.openzaurus.org/unofficial/experimental/poodle/ Make sure you rename zimage.bin to zImage.bin |
| 23:31.11 | Taro | gerrynjr: I think the apps all run, but alot of apps want to be running in OZ not Sharp ROMs |
| 23:31.38 | gerrynjr | Taro> can't the web browser issue be fixed by installing opera on the OS system? |
| 23:32.05 | Taro | gerrynjr: I can't get the operaCreator ipk to work, so I can't save my Opera |
| 23:32.06 | Taro | :( |
| 23:32.22 | gerrynjr | there's got to be an ipk of it somewhere... |
| 23:32.26 | gerrynjr | how's battery life on the 56? |
| 23:32.49 | Taro | I'm considering trying the Kompany ROMs, but I dunno - they have an application package that might have Opera in it - about to check |
| 23:33.29 | Taro | battery life is okay - haven't measured, but I always have a wireless card in it and a 256MB SD card, and usually multitasking and swapping to the SD, which I'm sure doesn't help battery life |
| 23:33.38 | treke | Not all apps will run on OZ |
| 23:33.46 | treke | most will, new sharp rom apps wont |
| 23:34.07 | Taro | treke: really? |
| 23:34.17 | Taro | so should I stick to Kompany ROMs? |
| 23:34.23 | gerrynjr | treke> what about commercial apps? |
| 23:34.24 | Taro | or Zynergy? |
| 23:34.34 | _munky | hey |
| 23:34.38 | treke | Taro: I never said that. Use whatever rom works best for you |
| 23:34.40 | _munky | anyone seen red| |
| 23:34.42 | treke | gerrynjr: Most should run |
| 23:34.42 | Taro | lol |
| 23:34.46 | Taro | trying to figure that out |
| 23:34.47 | _munky | or was it rev| |
| 23:34.53 | _munky | i dont remember |
| 23:35.13 | Taro | do you know the difference between Embedix and Linux 2.4.18? |
| 23:35.28 | treke | Yes, one is a distribution, one is a kernel release |
| 23:35.29 | Taro | oh wait |
| 23:35.32 | Taro | never mind |
| 23:35.44 | Taro | I got it |
| 23:35.54 | Taro | one is the zImage/kernel and the other in the initrd |
| 23:38.29 | *** join/#zaurus blitzrage (~blitzrage@dsl-214.sarnia.xcelco.on.ca) |
| 23:40.16 | Taro | wow - I have a USB stick that takes an SD card - I really love it. I plug it into the PC like any other USB stick/fob/keychain hard drive, and then I can move the SD card over to the Zaurus |
| 23:40.40 | Taro | I like it alot better than using the sync cradle |
| 23:43.49 | Taro | Hmm ... looks like the Kompany 5600 release will solve a couple problems. The moved Opera and Hancom and Jeodd apps to ipks. I don't seen Opera and Jeodd in the tarball though :( |
| 23:45.15 | Taro | They might be in the tarball for the 5500 though - looks like that one is alot bigger |
| 23:46.37 | Taro | Has anyone tried the Dr.Z Video Player? Supposedly optimized for the 5600 |
| 23:56.48 | Taro | Anyone used an IR keyboard with the Zaurus? I'd think the line-of-site required for IR would mean you'd have to keep the Z on its side wouldn't u? |