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| 01:30.10 | crabsentia | we neet falcon eye nethack for the zaurus |
| 01:30.19 | treke|home | that would be cool |
| 01:30.25 | treke|home | there is a qt front end iirc |
| 01:30.52 | crabsentia | ? |
| 01:31.02 | crabsentia | i have nethack qt |
| 01:31.03 | treke|home | crabsentia: a qt falcon eye front end |
| 01:31.20 | crabsentia | looking to get u4 and u7 going ... |
| 01:35.25 | crabsentia | tried what? |
| 01:35.33 | crabsentia | ya, maxmame is useless |
| 01:35.46 | crabsentia | cant find any mame links... like zmame.... |
| 01:39.43 | crabsentia | killefiz needs to get cleaned up ... too many dead links. |
| 02:03.41 | crabsentia | chip... you there? do you code gaim? |
| 02:11.42 | crabsentia | hey kergoth |
| 02:12.57 | kergoth | hey |
| 02:15.26 | MG_Tak | hiya kergoth |
| 02:15.41 | ChipX86|Coding | crabsentia: yep, I'm here, and yep |
| 02:16.26 | crabsentia | I'm on the gaim now.... very impressive. thank you. |
| 02:16.46 | ChipX86|Coding | thanks for the thanks :) |
| 02:16.51 | crabsentia | np |
| 02:17.11 | ChipX86|Coding | kergoth: btw, I'm working on some code now that will make SSL a requirement only if you use a protocol that supports it |
| 02:19.04 | crabsentia | chip -- may I give a suggestion here for the gaim? |
| 02:19.39 | kergoth | ChipX86|Coding: ah, thatd be nice |
| 02:19.58 | ChipX86|Coding | crabsentia: sure |
| 02:20.19 | raster | ChipX86|Coding: port to evas/edje! :) |
| 02:20.25 | raster | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.29 | raster | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.31 | raster | hehehe |
| 02:20.33 | ChipX86|Coding | raster: actually, that's on my TODO list ;) |
| 02:20.34 | raster | MUHAHAHA |
| 02:20.41 | ChipX86|Coding | but I have so much on my plate right now |
| 02:20.48 | raster | ChipX86|Coding: yer kidding right? |
| 02:20.53 | ChipX86|Coding | nope. I want to learn the libs |
| 02:20.57 | ChipX86|Coding | it's trivial to make a UI for gaim now |
| 02:21.13 | kergoth | gaim for estuff.. yum |
| 02:21.14 | raster | cool |
| 02:21.15 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:21.24 | ChipX86|Coding | I'll do it when I get e17 on my desktop ;) |
| 02:21.25 | raster | so make a skinned ui for it eh? |
| 02:21.30 | raster | ok |
| 02:21.32 | raster | working on that... |
| 02:21.33 | raster | :) |
| 02:21.54 | crabsentia | chip -- in the title area .. next to the icons .... put images for each of the protocols .... for notification of when a message comes in .. also for a quick switch |
| 02:21.57 | ChipX86|Coding | qpe-gaim was only about 3KB of code when I was first using it to talk to people on my buddy list across 5 accounts |
| 02:22.21 | ChipX86|Coding | crabsentia: are we talking qpe-gaim or gaim? |
| 02:22.22 | crabsentia | the press and hold on the folder is too hidden and slow... and doeasnt indicate if there is a new message |
| 02:22.51 | crabsentia | also, maybe make the image on the status at the bottom flash or go inverse if you get a message in any protocol. |
| 02:23.12 | crabsentia | perhaps simple - but would significantly increase the utility.... |
| 02:23.23 | crabsentia | qpe-gaim |
| 02:23.31 | ChipX86|Coding | nod, similar ideas are going into a future version, but not 0.3 |
| 02:23.40 | crabsentia | perfect |
| 02:23.42 | ChipX86|Coding | 0.3 is getting contact support, prefs, and some notification options |
| 02:23.55 | crabsentia | it's very usable now. great |
| 02:24.34 | treke|home | keyboard navigation :) |
| 02:24.56 | ChipX86|Coding | yes :) |
| 02:27.25 | ChipX86|Coding | qpe-gaim has slipped to #8 on the ZSI |
| 02:28.05 | crabsentia | dammit |
| 02:28.20 | crabsentia | chess qboard wants a username and password to login |
| 02:28.29 | crabsentia | the files there need to be mirrored |
| 02:28.35 | crabsentia | too many dead links! |
| 02:35.54 | absentia | grrr |
| 02:36.00 | absentia | anyone here ahve qboard.ipk? the site is fubared |
| 02:37.53 | absentia | FVCK! |
| 02:39.58 | absentia | there seem to be almost no mirrors of any zaurus software |
| 02:40.05 | absentia | it's all links ... either to the one site, or to zsi |
| 02:40.11 | absentia | when that one site goes away, the software is lost. |
| 02:40.19 | absentia | someone needs to make an archive of zaurus software. |
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| 02:42.43 | absentia | 5 links in google |
| 02:42.46 | absentia | all point to the same place. |
| 02:42.52 | absentia | looks ilke qboard is gone. |
| 02:43.10 | treke|home | knights rocks |
| 02:43.20 | absentia | uh |
| 02:43.27 | absentia | it can't even play a game correctly. |
| 02:43.35 | absentia | also, it requires java? and I don't have java on 760 |
| 02:43.47 | treke|home | It doesnt require java |
| 02:44.05 | treke|home | and as for not playing a game correctly, what do you mean by that? |
| 02:44.23 | absentia | im going to get it now |
| 02:44.25 | absentia | just to make sure |
| 02:44.44 | absentia | ah |
| 02:44.46 | absentia | commercial |
| 02:44.50 | absentia | I think it was javachess that can't play |
| 02:44.52 | absentia | not knights. |
| 02:44.56 | treke|home | lemme digh up the ipk for you |
| 02:45.04 | absentia | for qboard? |
| 02:45.08 | treke|home | for knights |
| 02:45.13 | absentia | I'll buy it |
| 02:45.17 | treke|home | it's gpl |
| 02:45.18 | absentia | but there's also an ics client |
| 02:45.20 | absentia | that's another $10 |
| 02:45.25 | absentia | oh. |
| 02:45.28 | absentia | thought it was $8.99 |
| 02:45.31 | treke|home | it is |
| 02:45.42 | treke|home | He doesn't distribute binaries for free, but it is gpl |
| 02:45.50 | absentia | ah |
| 02:45.50 | absentia | ok |
| 02:45.54 | absentia | I'd appreciate it. |
| 02:46.05 | treke|home | Test it out. If you like it, pay him the 9 bucks |
| 02:46.07 | absentia | do you have qboard also ? |
| 02:46.10 | absentia | yup |
| 02:46.11 | treke|home | nope |
| 02:46.17 | absentia | I pay for all software that I use |
| 02:46.19 | absentia | I'm lame that way. |
| 02:47.33 | absentia | perhaps |
| 02:48.40 | treke|home | buildroot can also generate knights ipks, we just havent been putting them in feeds |
| 02:49.08 | treke|home | http://ent.brooks.edu/~ggilbert/c760/knights_1.14_arm.ipk |
| 02:49.43 | absentia | thanks |
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| 03:02.14 | absentia | hi |
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| 03:27.53 | absentia | heheh, treke... just got done installing apache so I can more easily move files to my zaurus... |
| 03:28.03 | absentia | can't pull out the cf now 'cuz it's used for net... |
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| 03:32.30 | absentia | heheh |
| 03:32.35 | absentia | running knirhgts crashed the zaurus |
| 03:33.06 | absentia | pulling the battery now |
| 03:36.41 | absentia | ah |
| 03:36.46 | absentia | founds a knights pkg onthe net |
| 03:38.22 | absentia | night |
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| 13:06.15 | absentia | morn' |
| 13:07.05 | emme | hi |
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| 15:23.34 | absentia | re |
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| 16:51.53 | absentia | ok |
| 16:51.58 | absentia | I am officially bored out of my skull |
| 17:06.25 | fliplap | goto work |
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| 17:21.06 | kergoth | configure:2293: checking whether the C compiler (ccache gcc ) works |
| 17:21.06 | kergoth | configure:2309: ccache gcc -o conftest conftest.c 1>&5 |
| 17:21.06 | kergoth | /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../libcygwin.a(libcmain.o)(.text+0x7c) |
| 17:21.06 | kergoth | : undefined reference to `_WinMain@16' |
| 17:21.08 | kergoth | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 17:21.11 | kergoth | grr |
| 17:21.39 | fliplap | Phoenix, AZ (85044): Cloudy, 76°F Humidity: 74% Sun Index: Minimal (1) |
| 17:21.52 | fliplap | there's a trip, 76 in phoenix, its sweetness |
| 17:22.03 | fliplap | kergoth: you guys feeling the storm over there? |
| 17:22.20 | kergoth | nope |
| 17:22.57 | fliplap | i guess there's some hurricane blowin thru the gulf, giving us rain in arizona |
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| 17:52.27 | TCMAN | hi |
| 17:55.12 | fliplap | ALL YOU DO IS EAT SALAD, TALK SHIT ABOUT NIGGAS AND DRINK WINE. AND YO ANSWER KEEPS CHANGIN CAUSE BITCH YOU KEEP LYIN |
| 17:56.47 | fliplap | well then, wrong server altogether, but oh well, its a good song anyway |
| 17:57.22 | fliplap | that's talib kweli's "Put It In The Air" for those who liked that line |
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| 18:55.20 | MG_Tak | Why does linux fgets work and not Solaris? |
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| 19:36.46 | absentia | ok, I've had it with externe.net wiki |
| 19:36.48 | absentia | losing my fucking edits |
| 19:36.56 | absentia | is there another zaurus wiki out there that's stable? |
| 19:38.37 | yeiazel | hum... ZaurusFr... :] |
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| 20:02.30 | absentia | sukoshi -- you there? |
| 20:02.34 | rev|lib | yo yo |
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| 20:25.55 | absentia | I see that mickeyl has updated his pyqt stuff |
| 20:26.03 | absentia | and I see someone has put it all into a cramfs, etc... |
| 20:26.04 | rev|lib | oooh exciting |
| 20:26.11 | absentia | so I'll play with it under sash's rom tonight. |
| 20:26.32 | treke | too bad someone hasnt updated his dynapad stuff |
| 20:26.50 | absentia | who uses dynapad? |
| 20:26.51 | absentia | :-> |
| 20:26.54 | rev|lib | actually |
| 20:27.00 | rev|lib | there are a handful of peopel wh use it regularily |
| 20:27.06 | rev|lib | i'm working on it now, even though i'm being paid to do library work |
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| 20:27.09 | rev|lib | muahaha |
| 20:28.02 | pHluid | Shhh. |
| 20:28.05 | pHluid | PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO STUDY. |
| 20:28.53 | W8TVI | how does one do a wireless sync with OZ? |
| 20:29.17 | rev|lib | anyone know of a good C760 ROM that would fulfill these requirements? -> |
| 20:29.22 | rev|lib | 1. have no qtopia. don't need it. |
| 20:29.28 | rev|lib | 2. have X installed and run by default |
| 20:29.28 | rev|lib | 3 |
| 20:29.29 | rev|lib | er |
| 20:29.39 | treke | rev|lib: mallum |
| 20:29.41 | rev|lib | 3. have some healthy amoutn of user-land apps installed, but nothin excessive and nothing to bare |
| 20:29.46 | rev|lib | treke: the husky one? |
| 20:29.47 | treke | nevermind |
| 20:29.51 | rev|lib | i thought husky was pretty bare |
| 20:29.57 | rev|lib | well, i don't need that many apps i guess |
| 20:30.05 | rev|lib | but i need some way to isntall them, i still haven't got my cross-compilaton environment to work |
| 20:30.36 | absentia | rev: I want the same, but I hope to be able to boot off of or to sd/cf soon. |
| 20:30.44 | absentia | until then, I'll "dual boot" the pda. |
| 20:31.05 | rev|lib | ah |
| 20:31.15 | rev|lib | i need to find out how the hell to flash the rom as well |
| 20:31.58 | treke | rev|lib: that image comes with a window manager and rxvt |
| 20:32.05 | absentia | treke: url ? |
| 20:32.12 | rev|lib | hrmm that might be what i need |
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| 20:32.18 | rev|lib | does it have apt-get or anything? |
| 20:32.19 | treke | absentia: And nothing else |
| 20:32.25 | treke | it uses ipkg |
| 20:32.34 | treke | apt-get is far to big for a pda |
| 20:32.38 | rev|lib | ahh ok |
| 20:32.44 | rev|lib | well, dpkg then |
| 20:32.50 | rev|lib | i need some way of using regular apps |
| 20:32.52 | treke | even dpkg is huge |
| 20:32.58 | rev|lib | without compiling every stinking app i need |
| 20:33.00 | rev|lib | ahhh |
| 20:33.02 | treke | an ipk is the same thing as a deb |
| 20:33.35 | rev|lib | i can just "ipkg install somerandom.deb" |
| 20:34.03 | treke | yes. assuming the dependencies match up it will work |
| 20:34.11 | rev|lib | ah |
| 20:34.16 | treke | if you know it's ok, you can always force-depends |
| 20:34.26 | absentia | you can also --force-depends |
| 20:34.28 | treke | of course that isn't true on sharps rom |
| 20:34.29 | rev|lib | shows how much time i don't spend with my head in squeak |
| 20:34.36 | absentia | nad install the dependencies it needs... yourself. |
| 20:34.39 | W8TVI | I think I got some debian ARM packages insalled |
| 20:34.49 | treke | since they don't use anything approaching an up to date ipkg |
| 20:35.06 | rev|lib | treke: is that the case with mallum's rom? |
| 20:35.16 | absentia | what's the url for the mallum rom ? |
| 20:35.21 | treke | mallum's rom is openzaurus. It uses an up to date ipkg |
| 20:35.42 | absentia | also, what roms are out there? I see proto - tkc rom... sash rom... sukoshi has a 700 only rom? oz.... sharp.... |
| 20:35.45 | treke | handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs iirc |
| 20:35.49 | absentia | tk: ok |
| 20:35.59 | rev|lib | absentia: http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs/husky/ |
| 20:36.05 | rev|lib | that's the stripped-down image we were talking about |
| 20:36.13 | absentia | http://handhelds.org/~mallum/ |
| 20:36.14 | absentia | heheh |
| 20:36.39 | rev|lib | which buildroot trick? |
| 20:37.02 | rev|lib | i wonder what that is in /collie |
| 20:37.05 | rev|lib | er |
| 20:37.09 | rev|lib | 5x00 |
| 20:37.10 | rev|lib | dhuhhh |
| 20:37.10 | rev|lib | heh |
| 20:38.06 | absentia | ok, I'll take a peek at that next time I whack my 760... |
| 20:38.29 | rev|lib | absentia: do you know where there are docs on flashing the C760? |
| 20:39.11 | absentia | spread all over the internet... |
| 20:39.17 | rev|lib | like butter? |
| 20:39.22 | absentia | 1 sentence (hidden) per page... across about 20 pages. |
| 20:39.23 | absentia | ? |
| 20:39.24 | absentia | yup |
| 20:39.28 | rev|lib | wow |
| 20:39.30 | rev|lib | that's tricky |
| 20:39.35 | absentia | and the butter side always hits the floot |
| 20:39.39 | absentia | floor |
| 20:39.39 | rev|lib | i mean, it's easy to find infos on the 5x00 |
| 20:39.54 | rev|lib | but without too much c760 supoprt yet, there isn't as much in the way of dox |
| 20:39.54 | absentia | just try to find 7x0 at sharp... anywhere |
| 20:39.56 | treke | It's easy to find stuff on the c760 |
| 20:39.57 | absentia | you can find 5500 and 5600 |
| 20:39.58 | absentia | that's it. |
| 20:40.01 | treke | if you speak japanese |
| 20:40.06 | absentia | treke: ya! exactly. |
| 20:40.06 | rev|lib | hah, yeah |
| 20:40.19 | treke | I wouldnt expect info on the sharp us site :) |
| 20:40.29 | absentia | I have seen some pretty amazing looking roms that seem to come from .jp and .kr and perhaps .tw |
| 20:40.32 | absentia | something like that. |
| 20:40.39 | absentia | community.sharp.com |
| 20:40.42 | absentia | zaurus.sharp.com |
| 20:40.44 | absentia | myzaurus.com |
| 20:40.48 | absentia | zauruszone.com |
| 20:40.53 | treke | sharp spacetown has that sort of thing, I think |
| 20:41.02 | absentia | zaurus.sharp.com/dev/board (or something) |
| 20:41.06 | absentia | there are 10,000 forums |
| 20:41.50 | rev|lib | yup |
| 20:42.08 | absentia | is that mallum stuff some sort of x server? |
| 20:42.14 | absentia | is there a tinyX or something/anything for sharp? |
| 20:42.33 | treke | someone made one for collie |
| 20:43.58 | absentia | hey mickeyl |
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| 21:01.47 | emme | anyone has news about the status of openzaurus on C760? |
| 21:05.02 | pHluid | Yes. I do. |
| 21:05.49 | rev|lib | HAHAAHAHAHA |
| 21:05.50 | rev|lib | ouch |
| 21:05.57 | rev|lib | that was priceless |
| 21:09.57 | treke | absentia: How long does the battery on your c700 last? |
| 21:10.01 | treke | usually |
| 21:10.48 | rev|lib | yes |
| 21:10.50 | rev|lib | i wonder this |
| 21:11.55 | treke | my boss is looking at the 700 |
| 21:13.14 | rev|lib | from what i've read, about the same as the 5600 |
| 21:13.16 | rev|lib | or 5500 |
| 21:13.32 | treke | which isnt particulary good, correct? |
| 21:13.46 | rev|lib | 2-3 hours, 3.54 if you have the LCD at the lowest |
| 21:13.48 | rev|lib | er 3.5-4 |
| 21:13.55 | rev|lib | yeah, pretty dismal |
| 21:14.27 | treke | a 760 would be too high a price for the use he'd get |
| 21:15.29 | rev|lib | yeah |
| 21:17.54 | emme | what ROM do you suggest on 760? |
| 21:18.19 | rev|lib | well |
| 21:18.22 | rev|lib | i'm using the default sharp ROM |
| 21:18.35 | rev|lib | but i'm hoping to switch to a bare-bones ROM that just has X |
| 21:18.44 | rev|lib | but for most people, the sharp rom is probably what to use |
| 21:18.51 | rev|lib | until OZ is stable and production quality |
| 21:18.58 | rev|lib | which it isn't on the C760 IIRC |
| 21:19.06 | treke | stable yes |
| 21:19.12 | treke | production quality? no |
| 21:19.45 | emme | What about sash (cacko) ROM? |
| 21:20.32 | rev|lib | is there a sash/cacko for C760? |
| 21:20.34 | rev|lib | never used it |
| 21:24.20 | emme | rev|lib: http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1312 |
| 21:25.42 | rev|lib | cool |
| 21:25.48 | emme | rev|lib: you just localized your C760 to English? |
| 21:25.56 | rev|lib | those icons are less ugly, which is fine by me |
| 21:26.07 | rev|lib | it is from dynapad |
| 21:26.10 | rev|lib | i didn't do the localization |
| 21:27.21 | emme | i'm in Japan now, and I would go for a 760 |
| 21:27.55 | emme | i'd want to play with it a lot, but documentation is a bit confusing so far |
| 21:28.42 | rev|lib | mmhmm |
| 21:28.46 | emme | Are there any "antipatterns"? |
| 21:29.19 | emme | Or "how-to brick your new jewel?" |
| 21:30.00 | rev|lib | huh? |
| 21:30.04 | rev|lib | not that i know |
| 21:30.09 | rev|lib | i've not done anything with new roms |
| 21:30.14 | rev|lib | i have no idea how to flash a ROM |
| 21:30.19 | rev|lib | and no one is telling me here how to do that |
| 21:30.48 | treke | you know what to do if you want a rom |
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| 21:43.23 | jhcool | hello & good evening! Is there anybody out there who has some experience about open zaurus? |
| 21:43.44 | kergoth | nope |
| 21:45.18 | jhcool | so u all have still installed your original operating system? has anybody some xperience aobut flashing the rom on zaurus sl5500G? |
| 21:45.29 | kergoth | i was mocking you. |
| 21:45.36 | kergoth | dont ask to ask, just ask your questions |
| 21:45.43 | jhcool | k |
| 21:47.30 | rev|lib | wait a second here |
| 21:47.37 | jhcool | sorry. i want to flash the rom of my zaurus sl5500g and on the open zaurus web page they have some kernels and a initrd for my cf-card. but the kernels are only for sl5500 no any more information about the last letter "g"...can I use this what do u mean? |
| 21:47.39 | rev|lib | would it be ok if i asked to ask to ask my questions? |
| 21:48.02 | jhcool | of course;-) |
| 21:48.35 | kergoth | jhcool: those images will work fine on a 55000g. |
| 21:48.37 | kergoth | er 5500g |
| 21:49.56 | jhcool | thank u! this gives some hope! cos i was stupid and my system isnt booting up hehe...so I will look what I maybe did wrong. exuse my bad nettiquette, I was in army to long but now I can learn again. Have a nice day/night and thank u! |
| 21:50.14 | jhcool | cya |
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| 23:04.08 | LonEagle | hio |
| 23:18.08 | rev|lib | anyone here interested in buying my 2GB PCMCIA hard drive? it can be used with the zaurus with a PCMCIA-CF adapter |
| 23:18.12 | rev|lib | lots of storage for relatively cheap |
| 23:18.22 | LonEagle | rev? |
| 23:18.28 | rev|lib | yeah? |
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| 23:52.25 | fliplap | haha, 2 Fast 2 Furious is hilarious |
| 23:53.13 | kergoth | worth watching? i liked the first one |
| 23:53.44 | fliplap | the 1st one is more realistic...if you can believe that |
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| 23:55.35 | kergoth | bleh. |
| 23:55.59 | spencer_Z | sup dawgs |
| 23:56.13 | fliplap | it might be worth the time, tho i wouldn't suggest paying for the rental |
| 23:56.26 | spencer_Z | kergoth: when will we see linux pdas from TI? |
| 23:56.28 | treke | spencer_Z: |
| 23:56.48 | kergoth | I'm under NDA |
| 23:56.52 | kergoth | not at liberty to comment |
| 23:57.05 | spencer_Z | kergoth: how about this... WILL we see linux-based PDAs from TI? |
| 23:57.12 | treke | what if we all bought you a bottle of scotch? |
| 23:57.46 | spencer_Z | buy me a bottle of scotch, please |
| 23:58.03 | treke | you dont have anything to give us |
| 23:58.09 | spencer_Z | i can advice |
| 23:59.08 | spencer_Z | later... chiefs |
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