| 00:00.27 | treke|home | ati doesnt care much for giving people access to it |
| 00:01.43 | Youhou | the usual stupidity, then. Hmm. |
| 00:21.43 | MG_Tak | Somewhat. |
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| 00:28.09 | Three3 | sorry about all the login/logouts. trying to get a working gtk client on this 8bit display :-/ |
| 00:29.39 | Three3 | does anyone connect with their zaurus with a SanDisk Connect CF card ? I purchased a ConnectPlus, and am try to figure out which _cs module to use for it. |
| 00:30.35 | MG_Tak | don't see any "connect" on it though |
| 00:30.51 | Three3 | is it a Wifi card ? |
| 00:30.56 | MG_Tak | nope |
| 00:31.03 | MG_Tak | ooh |
| 00:31.32 | Three3 | no, sorry. I wasn't too clear |
| 00:31.58 | Three3 | I can get the CF memory card part of it working. but not the wifi side of it. |
| 00:32.13 | Three3 | it's a combo wifi and 128M CF card. |
| 00:32.18 | treke|home | You probably cant use them simultaneosly |
| 00:33.22 | Three3 | you ough to be able to. you can use a modem+ethernet combo card working with linux, |
| 00:33.44 | Three3 | loading the prism2_cs card totally freezes the box though. |
| 00:33.52 | Three3 | box/zaurus |
| 00:34.57 | treke|home | Three3: Right, but can you use the modem and ethernet at the same time |
| 00:35.15 | Three3 | under x86 yes. |
| 00:35.32 | treke|home | interesting. Never seen one you could |
| 00:36.05 | Three3 | have had to use the laptop for NATing a couple times. |
| 00:36.37 | Three3 | granted it's a PCMCIA but if I understand correctly CF are pretty much the same. |
| 00:36.47 | treke|home | yup |
| 00:36.56 | treke|home | though it might have been cardbus |
| 00:36.59 | treke|home | which is different |
| 00:37.02 | Three3 | ah.. |
| 00:39.15 | W8TVI | some one should port Bill Kendrick to the zaurus... oh wait... they did already :) |
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| 01:10.57 | destr0 | hey, I just noticed on the packa installation screen, there is a spot for connecting to a package server... are there any public package servers? |
| 01:13.38 | MG_Tak | Some. |
| 01:13.46 | MG_Tak | They're called 'feeds', iirc |
| 01:15.48 | destr0 | okay, know where I could get an address or two for some "feeds"? |
| 01:16.00 | kergoth | what rom? |
| 01:16.19 | destr0 | the default sharp rom |
| 01:16.29 | MG_Tak | hi kergoth |
| 01:16.41 | MG_Tak | destr0: I don't know of any feed for the default rom. |
| 01:16.47 | sigmaX | uhm ... with SL5500 and 3.10 ROM I Found that most feeds did not complete any installation |
| 01:17.15 | destr0 | I should look at openzaurus again. |
| 01:17.19 | fdask | most feeds you are finding are probably for OpenZaurus |
| 01:17.52 | destr0 | it's been about 5 months since I evaluated using it last time.. and I can't even remember why I didn't go with it. |
| 01:20.51 | fdask | it doesn't? |
| 01:20.56 | fdask | oh, the website |
| 01:21.04 | fdask | its being worked on. :) |
| 01:21.08 | treke|home | fdask: There are no releases for the 5600 |
| 01:21.09 | MG_Tak | fdask: I'll wait. :) |
| 01:21.25 | fdask | no releases, but the buildroot can do one up, can't it? |
| 01:21.35 | kergoth | yep |
| 01:23.53 | MG_Tak | Maybe it'd help me compile freeswan programs. |
| 01:24.40 | destr0 | can you flas from an SD carc? |
| 01:24.46 | destr0 | s/carc/card |
| 01:24.50 | treke|home | not on the 5500 |
| 01:25.23 | destr0 | damn... I left my CF card at the office. |
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| 01:38.24 | rev|z | yo yo! |
| 01:44.04 | sheenmaster | yo yo! |
| 01:45.04 | absentia | y0y0y0 |
| 01:45.31 | sheenmaster | absentia: That's just childish. |
| 01:46.04 | sheenmaster | rFb irel puvyqvfu! |
| 01:46.44 | absentia | yeah? |
| 01:47.24 | sheenmaster | nm |
| 01:47.39 | sheenmaster | (I always reply to 1337-speak in ROT13) |
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| 01:47.58 | absentia | did I do 'leet speak? |
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| 01:48.32 | treke|home | rev|z: y0 foo |
| 01:48.32 | sheenmaster | You're forgiven. |
| 01:48.54 | sheenmaster | treke|home: Gur dhvpx oebja sbk whzcf bire gur ynml qbt! |
| 01:49.24 | absentia | sparc, eh? |
| 01:49.27 | absentia | what 'bout sparc? |
| 01:49.47 | absentia | my 8 cpu sun was stolen this year |
| 01:49.47 | absentia | :-< |
| 01:50.02 | sheenmaster | absentia: I have a 4 cpu Sun, that can take two more cpu's. |
| 01:50.07 | absentia | octoCPUssy.spy.org |
| 01:50.08 | absentia | :-/ |
| 01:50.16 | absentia | 6 cpus? |
| 01:50.18 | absentia | what model ? |
| 01:50.25 | MG_Tak | absentia: stolen? |
| 01:50.34 | absentia | mg: ya, everything electronic I had was stolen. |
| 01:50.50 | MG_Tak | absentia: that sucks :( (sorry for stating the obvious) |
| 01:50.52 | absentia | all cds, dvds, speakers, amps, stereo, dvd player, cd player, suns, cisco, you name it. |
| 01:50.55 | absentia | no kidding. |
| 01:50.55 | rev|z | let me tell you kids |
| 01:50.56 | treke|home | sheenmaster: shpx bss |
| 01:50.56 | sheenmaster | absentia: sorry, 4 more CPU's |
| 01:51.04 | absentia | sheen: what model ? |
| 01:51.08 | treke|home | rev|z: release! |
| 01:51.11 | sheenmaster | absentia: it's a SparcServer1000 |
| 01:51.20 | absentia | did you just come across it recenty? |
| 01:51.26 | absentia | mine was a ss1000 with 576 mb ram |
| 01:51.30 | sheenmaster | treke|home: lbh shpx bss! |
| 01:51.33 | absentia | of course, it sounded like a dc10 |
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| 01:51.41 | absentia | sun4d isn't supported anymore, anyway. |
| 01:51.42 | absentia | :-/ |
| 01:51.47 | treke|home | nsgre lbh |
| 01:51.59 | rev|z | the new bowie album, a warm dinner almost done, a little opium while haning out with my girlfriend... a damn good evening |
| 01:52.04 | sheenmaster | treke|home: fine. |
| 01:52.19 | sheenmaster | absentia: Yeah, I had to install Slowlaris 2.6 |
| 01:52.24 | rev|z | treke is my PPT |
| 01:52.28 | sheenmaster | 8 might work, but I can't find a copy. |
| 01:52.34 | treke|home | PPT? |
| 01:52.35 | rev|z | Personal Programming Trainer |
| 01:52.41 | treke|home | ah. |
| 01:52.54 | rev|z | :) |
| 01:53.02 | rev|z | "you can do it!!!" |
| 01:53.11 | sheenmaster | rev|z: That's a waste of time. Just stare at terminal until drops of blood form at your forehead. |
| 01:57.14 | rev|z | doh |
| 01:57.17 | rev|z | too slate |
| 01:57.51 | rev|z | er |
| 01:57.53 | rev|z | late |
| 02:00.29 | rev|z | man |
| 02:01.22 | rev|z | i need to buy an old newton stylus or somttīng |
| 02:13.40 | rev|z | hellloooo |
| 02:13.43 | rev|z | anyone? |
| 02:14.10 | treke|home | no one likes you |
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| 02:14.32 | ChipX86|Coding | treke has a way with words |
| 02:14.39 | treke|home | thank you |
| 02:16.56 | rev|z | asswhipe |
| 02:17.14 | rev|z | not that kind, pervert |
| 02:17.50 | Three3 | so much love.. |
| 02:18.55 | Three3 | does anyone what's to come out of the next oz release ? |
| 02:19.13 | treke|home | new kernel. more supported devices. updated opie. more apps. |
| 02:19.14 | Three3 | opie 1.0 and 5600 I assume. |
| 02:20.05 | kergoth | hard to say ,it'll be some time yet. |
| 02:20.18 | Three3 | does 2.4.22 _ the rmk1 patch work out of the box ? |
| 02:20.24 | kergoth | official experimental images will be uploaded to hold people over, but thats about it |
| 02:20.27 | Three3 | s/_/+/g |
| 02:20.30 | kergoth | uhh, no where near. |
| 02:20.40 | kergoth | rmk does _not_ include support for the zaurus |
| 02:20.45 | Three3 | ah, |
| 02:20.50 | Three3 | only base arm stuff |
| 02:20.54 | Three3 | ? |
| 02:21.07 | kergoth | think about trying to install linux on your desktop without drivers for any of your hardware. video card, motherboard chipset, mouse, sound, keyboard, network |
| 02:21.24 | kergoth | then you'll have a _slight_ grasp of what itd be like trying to get stock rmk on a Z |
| 02:21.27 | kergoth | but not quite. |
| 02:21.46 | Three3 | just got my zaurus this week. haven't had time get up to date on it yet. |
| 02:22.32 | Three3 | is there a place where those drivers located ? |
| 02:22.38 | kergoth | ? |
| 02:22.48 | kergoth | you seem to imply that drivers for that kernel exist. |
| 02:22.56 | kergoth | how interesting. |
| 02:23.07 | Three3 | well they exist for 2.4.21 |
| 02:23.21 | Three3 | it would be just a matter of forward porting to 2.4.22 |
| 02:23.30 | kergoth | yeah, the drivers I did. sharp didnt do jack beyond 18 |
| 02:23.38 | Three3 | ah. |
| 02:23.39 | kergoth | and you also seem to assume that there _is_ a rmk release on 2.4.22 |
| 02:23.50 | Three3 | there is |
| 02:23.54 | treke|home | actually there is :) |
| 02:23.57 | Three3 | oh no. |
| 02:24.04 | kergoth | there was no linux-arm-announce mailing list email? |
| 02:24.07 | kergoth | i find that surprising. |
| 02:24.16 | treke|home | kergoth: Thought I saw the email about it a while back |
| 02:24.47 | treke|home | ah. it's 2.4.21 |
| 02:24.55 | kergoth | yes, it is. |
| 02:25.25 | kergoth | Three3: so theres another reason for you. |
| 02:25.32 | Three3 | cool. |
| 02:25.33 | kergoth | as if we needed more |
| 02:25.36 | Three3 | ehhe |
| 02:25.53 | kergoth | once it releases, yes, i'll pull them into our 2.4.21 Z bitkeeper repos |
| 02:25.54 | Three3 | hey makes it that more fun/challenging ;) |
| 02:25.55 | kergoth | and i'tll work fine |
| 02:26.06 | kergoth | with the exceptiono f sdmmc obviously |
| 02:29.13 | Three3 | so sharp hasn't released anything for the sdmmc ? |
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| 02:34.51 | Three3 | kergoth: where your kitkeeper repo ? if you don't mind saying. |
| 02:35.10 | kergoth | for the kenrel stuff? |
| 02:35.12 | kergoth | linux-cl.bkbits.net |
| 02:35.19 | kergoth | oz buildsystem: openzaurus.bkbits.net |
| 02:35.26 | kergoth | oe buildsystem: openembedded.bkbits.net |
| 02:35.41 | Three3 | thanks. |
| 02:38.55 | Youhou | Hmm. I've gotten it to work quite well (the -ja version, actually), but now something eats my keystrokes on their way to xemacs. |
| 02:39.14 | Youhou | Does Qtopia normally pass all keystrokes to applications, or is there some preliminary filtering? |
| 02:39.16 | W8TVI | kergoth: what cool things are instore for the next release? |
| 02:39.47 | MG_Tak | Direct access to W8TVI's credit card? |
| 02:40.34 | kergoth | W8TVI: stuff. |
| 02:40.41 | kergoth | W8TVI: and then, some more stuff. |
| 02:41.18 | W8TVI | :-/ |
| 02:41.27 | W8TVI | :_| |
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| 03:55.52 | dj_segfault | Hey- question about minicom. I have OZ3.2, and when I try to install this package it tries to pull in libc6, and a new kernel, and whole bunch of other stuff. Am I grabbing the wrong version? |
| 03:56.41 | dj_segfault | From www.killefiz.de/ |
| 04:07.50 | VampireZIM | or ZaurusSoftware.com |
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| 04:10.21 | dj_segfault | But is that gonna have the same one that has the same dependencies? I see there's 1.82 and 2.1. The one from Killefiz was 2.0. |
| 04:11.34 | dj_segfault | I want to download this because I want to hook up my cellphone to the serial port to use it like a modem, and want to be able to debug it before I fool with PPP. |
| 04:11.58 | dj_segfault | NB: haven't made the connector and tried it yet but I bought the connectors and will build it this week. |
| 04:12.50 | destr0 | does opie have jeode too? |
| 04:12.55 | treke|home | no |
| 04:13.08 | destr0 | or not opie, but openzaurus |
| 04:13.28 | dj_segfault | OpenZaurus does not come with it, but you can load it and it works. |
| 04:14.15 | dj_segfault | Don't know about the OZ release that should be coming out RSN, but I assume that won't have Jeode either for legal reasons/ |
| 04:14.49 | treke|home | Right |
| 04:15.01 | treke|home | Jeode is a closed source product licenses by sharp |
| 04:16.13 | destr0 | ah, are there any other JVM alternatives for OZ/Z? |
| 04:16.33 | treke|home | no |
| 04:16.57 | destr0 | that sucks |
| 04:17.18 | Three3 | k. trying to use the buildroot. any one have any "hints" |
| 04:17.39 | kergoth | hints.. um, follow the instructions, read docs/*? |
| 04:17.42 | kergoth | aka |
| 04:17.42 | treke|home | hint 1) Don't do it unless you have a specific reason |
| 04:17.44 | Three3 | are there some ENVs to set |
| 04:17.45 | kergoth | rtfm |
| 04:17.46 | Three3 | I have |
| 04:17.46 | dj_segfault | I loaded Jeode on my OZ3.2 5500 and it works, but I haven't tried writing and running any GUI programs on it. |
| 04:18.01 | kergoth | if there were envs to set, the docs would have mentioned them |
| 04:18.08 | destr0 | thanks for the tips dj |
| 04:18.11 | Three3 | k. |
| 04:18.14 | ChipX86 | kergoth: oh come on, the users shouldn't have to do any work. You should repeat the info from the docs word for word for them |
| 04:18.18 | dj_segfault | NP |
| 04:18.39 | ChipX86 | (sadly, in gaim, we've had users that have actually told us that in all seriousness) |
| 04:19.20 | treke|home | :) |
| 04:19.30 | dj_segfault | BTW, jeode implements Personal Java which is roughly == to Java 1.1 with AWT (which was pretty much replaced with Swing for GUI in later versions. |
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| 04:20.41 | treke|home | ChipX86: You know if gaim does anything different in gnome to launch a web browser than when running outside of gnome? |
| 04:20.46 | Labtec | hey, can anyone tell my whats a good 802.11b card for the 5500 |
| 04:21.05 | W8TVI | ambicom wl1100c |
| 04:21.21 | dj_segfault | I hear a lot of good things about that one, and the Socket one. |
| 04:21.46 | Labtec | how much should i expect to pay |
| 04:22.00 | treke|home | rev|z: troll |
| 04:22.17 | dj_segfault | The NetGear MA701 give some people (like me) intermittent trouble. Recent tests by me point to overheating and a slightly off-spec connector size preventing a good fit all the time. |
| 04:22.38 | W8TVI | I had a ma701... died on me |
| 04:22.44 | Labtec | oh yeh |
| 04:22.54 | Three3 | well all the docs seem to say is to set the PATH. which I have done. make clean no matter what I seem to do gives me the Must have a toolchain available. |
| 04:23.06 | Labtec | i was lookin into a D-link or a SMC (because they are the cheapest) |
| 04:23.07 | W8TVI | Labtec: if you get it at best buy its $70 with a $20 mail in rebate |
| 04:23.18 | W8TVI | dont get the d-link |
| 04:23.21 | dj_segfault | Nice! |
| 04:23.37 | Labtec | oh yeh, ok no d-link |
| 04:23.59 | dj_segfault | Not supported, or has problems? |
| 04:24.02 | Labtec | how bout SMC, i think i saw it for 29.99 after rebate |
| 04:24.02 | W8TVI | I've read that the d-link has the same trouble as the netgear |
| 04:24.08 | W8TVI | supported |
| 04:24.16 | W8TVI | dont know about the smc |
| 04:24.34 | W8TVI | the ambicom has good range |
| 04:24.41 | W8TVI | low profile |
| 04:24.59 | Labtec | oh yeh, i need the range b/c i'm planning to use it on campus |
| 04:25.01 | W8TVI | but its no award winner on batteries |
| 04:25.15 | Labtec | thats not that big of an issue for me |
| 04:25.16 | W8TVI | yeah |
| 04:25.16 | dj_segfault | (re: toolchain): Secret hacker rule #32: When hackers ask for help, they offer enough information for people to help them, like the command they typed in, the *exact* message, and what versions of what they were using at the time. |
| 04:25.31 | dj_segfault | Secret hacker rule #11: Hackers read manuals |
| 04:25.51 | Three3 | k. thanks again. |
| 04:25.59 | dj_segfault | Don't tell anyone I told you, I'll lose my license. |
| 04:26.19 | W8TVI | with the ma701 I couldn't have the travel trailer between me and the AP, but the ambicom will do it |
| 04:26.36 | W8TVI | and it has better receve range it seems |
| 04:26.56 | Labtec | ok, say i got get the AmbiCom card, how hard is it to setup (i am no programer, i had a hard time with the prog "hello world" |
| 04:27.52 | ChipX86 | treke|home: not sure. There was discussion about doing that, but I don't know what came of it |
| 04:28.06 | dj_segfault | That's great. I find my MA701 just stops working altogether after a while or if I touch it in the wrong way. Sometimes when I take it out and reinsert it the light goes on solid but no access, or no light at all. A few reinsertions I get it right. |
| 04:28.13 | W8TVI | Labtec: plug it in. |
| 04:28.30 | Labtec | cool, thats what i want |
| 04:28.37 | W8TVI | maybe set the AP's ssid |
| 04:28.46 | W8TVI | but its easy to set up |
| 04:28.57 | treke|home | ChipX86: hehe. It was doing odd things for me at work, not sure wtf was going on :) |
| 04:29.00 | Labtec | thats good |
| 04:29.03 | W8TVI | Labtec: what rom are you using? |
| 04:29.10 | Labtec | lets see |
| 04:29.15 | treke|home | of course I cant reproduce it here outside of gnome |
| 04:29.23 | W8TVI | I should say that its easy to use on openzaurus |
| 04:30.59 | Labtec | ok lets see Embedix: 1.0 ; Opera: 5.0 ; Insignia JVM: PDA Edition ; Qtopia: 1.5.0 ;and Linux Kernel 2.4.6 and ROM 2.38 |
| 04:31.13 | Labtec | does that help? |
| 04:31.17 | W8TVI | yeah... |
| 04:31.43 | W8TVI | on the sharp rom, you just have to add a line to a config file |
| 04:32.17 | Labtec | ok, now i'm lost |
| 04:32.30 | Labtec | so i have to mess w/ the code? |
| 04:32.36 | kergoth | config file != code |
| 04:32.39 | kergoth | config file = config file |
| 04:33.08 | W8TVI | config file is like an INI file in windows |
| 04:33.34 | Labtec | ok |
| 04:33.42 | W8TVI | but better :) |
| 04:34.29 | Labtec | so, should i upgrade my sharp or stick with the OS i have? |
| 04:35.31 | W8TVI | openzaurus is better, but I dont know that you should upgrade just yet... |
| 04:35.51 | Labtec | ok |
| 04:36.15 | W8TVI | and some people say they got the wl1100c to work by just pluging it in |
| 04:37.12 | Labtec | that would be perfect |
| 04:37.41 | dj_segfault | BTW, kergoth, did you get someone to help with the webpage after your 09/09 post? |
| 04:37.51 | Labtec | ok, so i do get a card to work, can i use programs like AIM or am i limited to e-mail |
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| 04:38.24 | dj_segfault | It's ethernet access. Whatever you want |
| 04:38.33 | W8TVI | Labtec: not AIM, GAIM :) |
| 04:38.41 | ChipX86 | Gaim/gaim, not GAIM ;) |
| 04:38.53 | ChipX86 | Labtec: http://qpe-gaim.sf.net/screenshots.php |
| 04:38.57 | W8TVI | ChipX86: :P |
| 04:39.06 | dj_segfault | Email, web browsing, gaim, ftp, I even use a WebDAV client to edit web pages on my server wireless |
| 04:39.15 | ChipX86 | Labtec: AIM, iCQ, Yahoo, MSN, IRC, Jabber, Napster chat, Gadu-Gadu, Trepia |
| 04:39.22 | ChipX86 | er, ICQ |
| 04:39.31 | Labtec | thats sweet!! |
| 04:39.40 | Labtec | i didn't know it could do that |
| 04:39.45 | Labtec | i just wanted to make sure |
| 04:39.46 | dj_segfault | Very. I'm using it now on my Linux box. |
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| 04:40.18 | W8TVI|z | IRC from the zaurus |
| 04:40.26 | dj_segfault | Oh yeah, and ssh to my server (and from my server to the Z), and VNC |
| 04:40.40 | W8TVI | me too |
| 04:40.47 | W8TVI | I like using SCP |
| 04:40.56 | W8TVI | well.. WinSCP |
| 04:41.05 | dj_segfault | scp and rsync are what I use to back up. |
| 04:41.34 | W8TVI | haven't bothered to look for a linux GUI for scp... |
| 04:42.19 | Labtec | aright guys,thanks for all your help i really appreciate it (just getting started so i have alot of questions) |
| 04:42.45 | W8TVI | :) |
| 04:42.47 | dj_segfault | In fact I use it in both directions, to copy certain files to my Z and to back up any changed files from my z back to the Linux box. Ferinstance, I have a log file of all my job search activites (12 months and counting!), and that gets sent back to my Z so if I get a call from a company on my cell, I can look up what I applied to at that company from whereever I am. |
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| 04:43.07 | W8TVI | cool |
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| 04:43.46 | W8TVI | I really need to resave my resume in text format and copy it over to my pda |
| 04:44.06 | W8TVI | thats the one thing I did like about the sharp rom... |
| 04:44.16 | W8TVI | I could use hancom word on it |
| 04:44.25 | dj_segfault | Absolutely. Or load The Hancom editor which can read MS Doc files almost |
| 04:44.44 | dj_segfault | I have Hancom word and sheet and Jeode under OZ3.2 |
| 04:44.53 | W8TVI | and I dont have the version 1.0.0 to try on OZ3.2 |
| 04:44.55 | rev|z | almost |
| 04:44.58 | W8TVI | all I have is 1.5.0 |
| 04:47.00 | dj_segfault | But you need your resume in text format for pasting into some web-based applications anyway. (don't know if this sorta off-topic stuff is OK here, I don't frequent this channel much) |
| 04:48.19 | W8TVI | I dont do that anyway... I just have it on my pda so I can copy it to the apps |
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| 04:51.25 | icefox | Anyone want a 5000D? I have an extra and am selling one. |
| 04:51.27 | icefox | works fine |
| 04:51.39 | W8TVI | for free? |
| 04:51.42 | W8TVI | ;) |
| 04:51.44 | icefox | :) |
| 04:51.47 | icefox | not for free |
| 04:51.50 | W8TVI | :( |
| 04:52.30 | W8TVI | too bad I spent most of what I had left at a swapmeet today on a 6M antenna |
| 04:52.42 | W8TVI | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=75267&cid=6740426 |
| 04:52.51 | W8TVI | 5mins to boot?! |
| 04:53.07 | icefox | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3042902453&category=38331 |
| 04:53.09 | icefox | dang |
| 04:53.17 | icefox | I thought it was only worth like $50 |
| 04:53.46 | W8TVI | sell it on ebay then |
| 04:53.50 | icefox | yah |
| 04:53.54 | icefox | how crazy |
| 04:54.04 | icefox | maybe i'll sell both of them :) |
| 04:54.19 | W8TVI | I wouldnt pay $200 for a 5000d |
| 04:54.26 | icefox | neither would I |
| 04:54.31 | W8TVI | thats what the 5500s are going for |
| 04:54.40 | W8TVI | and thats what I paid for my 5500 |
| 04:54.46 | icefox | course, selling my #18 5500 is what I'll keep |
| 04:55.11 | W8TVI | ? |
| 04:56.28 | W8TVI | I have 2 5500s... |
| 04:56.34 | W8TVI | one good and one dead |
| 04:56.37 | icefox | I have a 5500 with serial number 18 |
| 04:56.43 | W8TVI | the dead one has all the bad parts |
| 04:57.02 | W8TVI | took 2 dead 5500s and made one good one |
| 04:57.08 | icefox | cool |
| 04:57.46 | W8TVI | got an 5500 that got ran over by a car and pulled the main board and put in with the rest of the parts from minbe |
| 04:57.47 | W8TVI | mine |
| 04:58.16 | W8TVI | I just looked at the serial# on them... |
| 04:58.24 | W8TVI | mines older |
| 04:59.06 | dj_segfault | No advice on Minicom? OK, here's another one. I have a Z with a broken screen. I can see pretty much everything but the touchscreen is broken. I don't want to get it fixed. I loaded OZ on it, but can't get past the last spot on the screen calibration. Is there any way to exit out it or bypass it? |
| 04:59.32 | W8TVI | 2700000 range, the one I got to replace the board is 27000000 range |
| 04:59.34 | W8TVI | oops |
| 04:59.41 | W8TVI | 37 not 27 |
| 05:00.15 | W8TVI | no idea |
| 05:00.33 | W8TVI | dj_segfault: give it to me |
| 05:00.51 | W8TVI | :) |
| 05:01.52 | dj_segfault | Actually, that's how I got it ;) I want to use it, but I can't do that if I can't get past screen calibration |
| 05:02.40 | W8TVI | heh |
| 05:03.53 | W8TVI | well send it this way :) |
| 05:04.27 | W8TVI | I'll pay for shipping :) |
| 05:04.56 | dj_segfault | And for the zaurus. I aint giving up yet. |
| 05:05.40 | W8TVI | well keep me in mind... I want to get one for my mom |
| 05:06.38 | W8TVI | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3047107636&category=38331 |
| 05:06.43 | W8TVI | what are they selling? |
| 05:07.19 | dj_segfault | A SL-5000d for $99 |
| 05:07.40 | dj_segfault | But 6 days 20 hours left, so who knows how high it will go |
| 05:07.45 | icefox | reserver not met! |
| 05:07.46 | icefox | hahaha |
| 05:08.02 | icefox | anything over $60 and I am happy |
| 05:08.03 | W8TVI | and two others |
| 05:08.11 | kergoth | a 5000d with a reserver over $99? wtf |
| 05:08.16 | kergoth | s/reserver/reserve/ |
| 05:08.20 | W8TVI | eBookman |
| 05:08.34 | W8TVI | Palm Zire\ |
| 05:08.38 | W8TVI | 3 pdas |
| 05:15.51 | rev|z | y |
| 05:15.58 | dj_segfault | Well, one megapowerfulhandheld computer, one PDA, and one toy book reader. And an MP3 player that will hold two songs. |
| 05:15.59 | rev|z | er... yo |
| 05:16.16 | fdask | hi rev |
| 05:16.24 | W8TVI | heh |
| 05:17.50 | dj_segfault | Really. an 8MB MP3 player. |
| 05:19.23 | rev|z | an e˙ |
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| 05:19.48 | rev|z | an expandable one tho |
| 05:19.53 | rev|z | SD |
| 05:20.59 | dj_segfault | OK, MP3 player: free. SD memory to give it reasonable capacity: $80-120. Great deal. Sign me up. |
| 05:24.49 | rev|z | youd have to do the same on the z tno |
| 05:26.05 | dj_segfault | Buying a 64MB for your MP3 player will cost more than a MP3 player with 64Mb built into it though. The same is not true of the Z. |
| 05:27.12 | rev|z | the 5000d has 32 mb of ram total: only 16 MB for the MPs |
| 05:27.29 | rev|z | assuming you have NO other apps or data |
| 05:28.23 | rev|z | and that does little good |
| 05:29.22 | rev|z | you'd still need to buy the same size mem card |
| 05:29.57 | rev|z | i imagine a 48 MB card is only $2-5 cheaper than a 64 |
| 05:30.25 | dj_segfault | Gnight. OO. |
| 05:30.30 | W8TVI | I got a 128mb sd card for $35 |
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| 05:32.02 | rev|z | yeah, way cheap |
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| 05:33.12 | W8TVI | I think I'm going to go to bed shortly |
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| 06:12.07 | W8TVI|z | why? |
| 06:15.36 | rev|z | yeah |
| 06:15.43 | rev|z | wtf man |
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| 06:22.22 | rev|z | well |
| 06:22.24 | rev|z | night |
| 06:22.31 | rev|z | dis biatch iz oouuut |
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| 07:00.43 | pole | shit... why nothing like this that is gpl...? -> http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=776 |
| 07:01.47 | pole | or this -> http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=880 |
| 07:01.50 | ChipX86 | it'd be simple to write |
| 07:03.46 | treke|home | Technically the second one probably should be gpl :) |
| 07:04.10 | pole | with inline drawings would be kick-ass |
| 07:04.18 | treke|home | I dont think the author had a commercial license :) |
| 07:04.23 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 07:04.27 | pole | ;,,; |
| 07:05.22 | treke|home | notebox sounds similar to what I'm writing :) |
| 07:05.43 | pole | treke|home: please tell me when you are (semi) done |
| 07:06.13 | treke|home | sure. I've been playing with storage and searching options in python, then I was going to rewrite it in c++ |
| 07:06.37 | pole | any drawing features? |
| 07:06.49 | treke|home | nope |
| 07:08.02 | pole | hmm... sometimes while taking notes, you just have to draw something... no other way of expressing some things |
| 07:08.14 | fdask | so fire up a seperate draw app? |
| 07:08.31 | pole | and cross reference? it would be easier to have something inline |
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| 07:09.42 | treke|home | pole: Laziness and lack of need on my part |
| 07:10.05 | pole | treke|home: right... too bad for me... T_T |
| 07:11.03 | treke|home | maybe if someone magically wrote a widget to handle it :) |
| 07:11.40 | treke|home | What I'm more interested in is figuring out how I could link notes together |
| 07:12.15 | pole | you can do a wiki type of thing |
| 07:12.25 | pole | crossReference |
| 07:12.26 | fdask | theres a pc program i use for notes called Keynote. it allows you to set them up in a tree hiarchy. great feature. |
| 07:12.34 | pole | and define crossReference |
| 07:13.57 | pole | would a wiki type of note taker be bad? |
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| 07:14.19 | treke|home | I've thought of a wiki type thing, but I'd like it to be more automatic if it could |
| 07:14.50 | pole | right... it has to be quick... on the spot entry |
| 07:22.50 | pole | Installing qpf-bitstream-vera-full (1.10-3) to root... |
| 07:22.55 | pole | does that take a LONG time usually? |
| 07:23.21 | fdask | on first boot? |
| 07:23.42 | fdask | during a build? |
| 07:24.00 | pole | during... installing the package |
| 07:24.31 | fdask | heh |
| 07:25.27 | pole | interesting... does this card work wiht OZ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3046652249&category=45003 |
| 07:25.40 | pole | i never seen anything with a combo flash+wifi |
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| 10:58.49 | psb154 | I'm using SuSE 8.1 I have followed FAQs and HOWtos but can't seem to find usb-etho-whatever if I do an ifconfig -a |
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| 11:02.41 | qfh | did you load the usb networking module? |
| 11:03.49 | George- | MWAHAHAHAH! |
| 11:08.43 | MG_Tak | George-: Morning |
| 11:08.48 | George- | hi |
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| 11:45.04 | George- | I hate my tibook |
| 11:45.07 | George- | I HATE THE BLOODY THING |
| 11:47.02 | MG_Tak | So hate it. |
| 11:47.23 | George- | MG_Tak: the screen just snapped off it |
| 11:47.35 | George- | that's all I fucking need |
| 11:47.45 | MG_Tak | that's valid hating reason, indee |
| 11:47.47 | MG_Tak | d |
| 11:48.13 | George- | MG_Tak: hinges too stiff... tried to tilt lcd... SNAP |
| 11:48.31 | MG_Tak | George-: screen still works? |
| 11:48.42 | George- | yes |
| 11:49.00 | MG_Tak | well, that's a plus, at least |
| 11:49.06 | George- | one hinge is just about holding the bastard together |
| 11:49.07 | MG_Tak | not much of it, but still |
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| 14:42.26 | pole | what route should i use to upgrade to OZ testing or unstable? |
| 14:43.00 | pole | i thought i was using 3.2 so i tried to upgrade to testing, but the darn thing didnt have /mnt/ram mounted or something and ran out of space waaay before it completed upgrading |
| 14:44.41 | pole | how can i mount /mnt/ram anyway? |
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| 16:16.08 | George- | ibot seen phoen][x |
| 16:16.09 | | phoen][x <~phoenix@pD900BF53.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 10d 18h 40m 18s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 16:16.27 | MG_Tak | hehe |
| 16:16.37 | George- | bleh |
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| 18:17.09 | solidunit | which is the best cacko rom |
| 18:17.24 | solidunit | hybrid w/ qtopia 1.6.2 ? |
| 18:20.54 | pole | what should be mounted on /mnt/ram? |
| 18:21.04 | pole | the damn version i have didnt even mount it |
| 18:21.11 | pole | so i ran out of space upgrading |
| 18:34.07 | pole | is ramfs it? |
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| 18:52.53 | cfowler | Does anyone here program in OpenZaurus? |
| 18:53.16 | sheenmaster | cfowler: I do. |
| 18:53.24 | sheenmaster | cfowler: mostly C, some python |
| 18:53.46 | cfowler | I'm on OpenZaurus.org and I see no mention of creating a development environment. Can you point me to the correct pages? |
| 18:55.47 | sheenmaster | I do it on my zaurus. |
| 18:55.51 | sheenmaster | With zgcc |
| 18:56.12 | sheenmaster | There are x86 Linux packages for a cross compiler. |
| 18:56.19 | cfowler | You write the programms actually on the zaurus? that is cool |
| 18:56.50 | cfowler | i have a how dev environment on my computer for Palm. I was wanting to create one on my laptop for the Zaurus so I can begin writing programs for OpenZaurus |
| 18:58.22 | sheenmaster | What OS does your laptop run? |
| 18:59.18 | cfowler | RedHat 9 |
| 18:59.29 | cfowler | All my computers run Linux :) |
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| 18:59.49 | sheenmaster | just checking |
| 19:00.01 | sheenmaster | there are some dumbasses running winshit that want VB to cross compile |
| 19:00.21 | cfowler | Not me. VB will not cross compile |
| 19:00.41 | sheenmaster | VB is a bloated sack of crap. |
| 19:01.05 | sheenmaster | Though divine intervention my winshit NT box collapsed a few years ago and lost all my Visual Studio source. |
| 19:01.11 | sheenmaster | Great chance to switch to Linux. |
| 19:01.14 | sheenmaster | Haven't looked back. |
| 19:02.57 | cfowler | Shoulw I just go to http://www.zaurus.org so I can download the cross-compiler? |
| 19:03.17 | sheenmaster | I suppose so. |
| 19:03.36 | cfowler | So you just installed OpenZaurus with zgcc and begin typing? |
| 19:03.56 | cfowler | I'm not sure if I should stick with the Sharp ROM or go to OpenZaurus |
| 19:04.08 | sheenmaster | OZ is awesome. |
| 19:04.12 | sheenmaster | Sharp's rom sucks |
| 19:04.43 | cfowler | Will I be screwed if I install OpenZarus and the use the dev howto on sharp's site to begin coding? |
| 19:04.46 | sheenmaster | the channel for it is #openzaurus |
| 19:05.03 | sheenmaster | If you're cross compiling, sharp's should work. |
| 19:05.11 | sheenmaster | You might need to copy a lib or two over. |
| 19:05.18 | cfowler | I do not have the Zaurus yet. I'll have it tomorrow. I'm just begining to create the dev environment ahead of time |
| 19:05.31 | sheenmaster | First things first |
| 19:05.32 | cfowler | OpenZaurus comes with zgcc? |
| 19:05.42 | sheenmaster | have you ordered wifi/ethernet, SD, and CF storage cards? |
| 19:05.54 | sheenmaster | No, it's too large to come with it. |
| 19:06.52 | sheenmaster | Java is another option. |
| 19:06.58 | sheenmaster | There's a pretty good port of Wonka |
| 19:09.53 | cfowler | I have CF, SD cards. I have the Linksys card too |
| 19:09.57 | cfowler | No ethernet though |
| 19:14.55 | sheenmaster | k |
| 19:15.13 | cfowler | But If I wanted to cross-compile where would I start for OpenZaurus? |
| 19:15.16 | sheenmaster | I recommend a 512mb SD card and a 32mb CF card, but it's a bit late. |
| 19:15.28 | sheenmaster | I don't have a working cross compiler. |
| 19:15.29 | cfowler | I have a 128MB CF card |
| 19:15.38 | cfowler | I have an 8M SD card |
| 19:15.45 | cfowler | I prefer to do all on CF is possible |
| 19:15.49 | sheenmaster | My development environment is PowerPC, not X86, so none of the prepackaged ones will work. |
| 19:15.54 | sheenmaster | not possible |
| 19:16.00 | sheenmaster | you'll have to take the CF out for wifi |
| 19:16.08 | sheenmaster | and 128mb cards take FOREVER to mount and umount |
| 19:16.17 | cfowler | What about USB? Does that not act like ethernet? |
| 19:16.20 | sheenmaster | (also pauses when waking from suspension) |
| 19:16.21 | cfowler | To a host linux machine? |
| 19:16.23 | sheenmaster | yes, but it sucks |
| 19:16.54 | sheenmaster | It's unreliable and it's much more fun to just toss a wifi card in it an ssh over |
| 19:17.03 | cfowler | I agree |
| 19:17.14 | sheenmaster | I suggest buying at least a 256mb SD card |
| 19:17.27 | sheenmaster | use it for software |
| 19:17.38 | sheenmaster | and use your 128mb card for music or something |
| 19:18.08 | cfowler | On ebay now |
| 19:18.42 | sheenmaster | Mine was cheeper than ebay prices |
| 19:18.50 | sheenmaster | check pricewatch or froogle as well as ebay |
| 19:19.56 | MG_Tak | sheenmaster: sucks and unreliable..? |
| 19:20.29 | sheenmaster | MG_Tak: I'm talking from experience with 2.4.18/PPC, haven't tried since then |
| 19:20.32 | cfowler | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/faq?id=132 |
| 19:20.48 | cfowler | I believe tere is my answer for looking to install on SDK on my laptop |
| 19:20.56 | MG_Tak | sheenmaster: I had a rough time getting mine set up, but once it was working, it was fine. |
| 19:21.54 | cfowler | MG_Tak: Are you routing packets between your network and the Zaurus? |
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| 19:22.20 | MG_Tak | cfowler: it's nat'ed. |
| 19:23.01 | MG_Tak | it is easier than USB |
| 19:23.05 | cfowler | MG_Tak: How are you developing programs for it |
| 19:23.08 | MG_Tak | but USB in itself is workable |
| 19:23.13 | MG_Tak | cfowler: so far I'm not |
| 19:23.28 | MG_Tak | once I start I'll be using the 1.5.4 SDK, most likely. |
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| 19:23.58 | cfowler | back |
| 19:25.09 | MG_Tak | cfowler: once I start developing for Z, I'll be using the 1.5.4 SDK, most likely. |
| 19:25.32 | MG_Tak | morning ChipX86 :) |
| 19:25.33 | sheenmaster | Does anyone have a zaurus cross compiler running on a PowerPC Linux box? |
| 19:25.38 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 19:25.56 | cfowler | Where do I get an SDK. http://www.zaurus.com seems very busy |
| 19:26.00 | cfowler | confusing pages |
| 19:26.01 | pole | wtf, can someone please tell me why i have no /mnt/ram? |
| 19:26.19 | sheenmaster | These "drop in SDK" builds are useless when not on X86. |
| 19:26.39 | sheenmaster | pole: I'll help you. What are the details involved? |
| 19:26.39 | MG_Tak | cfowler: I don't remember where I found mine :-/ |
| 19:26.51 | sheenmaster | pole: OZ || sharp |
| 19:27.01 | pole | sheenmaster: i had oz 3.2 and upgraded to testeing |
| 19:27.14 | pole | sheenmaster: but the thing is... it ran out of space, and i checked why |
| 19:27.18 | sheenmaster | pole: is it in /etc/fstab? |
| 19:27.27 | pole | as far as i can tell /mnt/ram isnt even mounted |
| 19:27.33 | pole | sheenmaster: i do not see it in there |
| 19:27.52 | sheenmaster | pole: then make an entry, mkdir the directory, and feel happy. |
| 19:28.07 | pole | sheenmaster: what device gets mounted to /mnt/ram? |
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| 19:28.43 | pole | sheenmaster: what is the line in your fstab? |
| 19:28.45 | treke|home | ,prmomg |
| 19:28.48 | treke|home | morning |
| 19:29.20 | sheenmaster | pole: /dev/mtdblock6 on /mnt/ram type ext2 (rw) |
| 19:29.23 | MG_Tak | hi treke|home |
| 19:29.39 | sheenmaster | sheenmaster: looks like it's mounted by a startup script rather than /etc/fstab |
| 19:30.06 | pole | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mtdblock6, |
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| 19:32.01 | pole | sheenmaster: i see... what script? |
| 19:32.46 | sheenmaster | pole: I don't know, haven't poked around there. Read through the init scripts |
| 19:32.55 | pole | hmm |
| 19:32.57 | sheenmaster | pole: maybe ask kergoth or another distro dev. |
| 19:33.12 | pole | what is the best way to upgrade to testing/unstable? |
| 19:33.20 | pole | i dont mind flashing the whole thing over again |
| 19:33.38 | pole | but will i encounter the same problem if i flash it with 3.2 and just "upgrade" to testing? |
| 19:34.15 | treke|home | if you upgrade to testing your pda will probably be unusable |
| 19:34.31 | treke|home | Reflash |
| 19:34.45 | pole | ok, so how should i upgrade? |
| 19:34.51 | treke|home | Reflash |
| 19:35.14 | pole | ok... so after i reflash, how can (should) i upgrade to unstable then? |
| 19:35.20 | treke|home | Reflash to unstable |
| 19:35.32 | pole | oh, there is a unstable bin? |
| 19:36.24 | cfowler | . |
| 19:38.47 | pole | i must be incredibly useless, but i cant find the unstable root image |
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| 19:41.29 | pole | ok, i give up, where is the image? |
| 19:48.21 | pole | treke|home: cfowler: you guys seem to know it all, so why can't you tell me where the unstable initrd.bin images are? |
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| 19:49.21 | cfowler | pole: I'm just starting. I'm not that yet. |
| 19:49.38 | Cope | Hello - what driver does the usb link use? Trying to see if I need to modprobe it, or build a new kernel |
| 19:49.47 | cfowler | I'm currently reading he Shap Qtopia Development Startup Guide |
| 19:49.50 | pole | Cope: on the host or z? |
| 19:50.02 | MG_Tak | cfowler: somethings aren't exact in there |
| 19:50.07 | Cope | pole: On the host |
| 19:50.35 | MG_Tak | if you have the 1.5 version of the SDk, you have to use gcc 2.9 to compile the examples |
| 19:50.35 | pole | usbnet should be it man, read this |
| 19:50.48 | MG_Tak | pole: usbdnet? |
| 19:51.01 | treke|home | http://openzaurus.org/official/experimental/collie/ |
| 19:51.07 | pole | http://www.linux-migration.org/ch05s08.html |
| 19:51.19 | pole | treke|home: thanks |
| 19:53.08 | cfowler | MG_Tak: I'm having one hell of a time trying to figure out how to create a damn SDK environment. Everything is in RPM format |
| 19:53.44 | MG_Tak | cfowler: what do you run? |
| 19:53.59 | cfowler | RedHat 9 |
| 19:54.23 | sheenmaster | Yeah, installing RPMs in redhat are a bitch. |
| 19:54.33 | cfowler | I prefer tar balls |
| 19:54.58 | MG_Tak | cfowler: so use alien |
| 19:55.19 | sheenmaster | cfowler: care you build it from scratch? It's much more complicated that "./configure && sudo make install" |
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| 19:56.06 | sheenmaster | s/you/to |
| 20:05.57 | cfowler | sheenmaster: I know. I build a Palm SDK from source and that took me a few hours into i could do a "Hello, World!" |
| 20:06.37 | cfowler | s/into/until/cg |
| 20:09.09 | cfowler | http://docs.zaurus.com/index.php?id=linux_compiler_setup_howto Is the page I'm looking at now |
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| 20:12.48 | cfowler | Cool I just build the example. I guess now I can build Hello World |
| 20:13.40 | cfowler | Now how do i build stuff for OpenZaurus |
| 20:17.16 | pole | treke|home: finished flashing with unstable... am i supposed to have a /mnt/ram partition or just /var? |
| 20:17.26 | pole | i do not have anything mounted as /mnt/ram |
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| 20:25.43 | pole | dmesg says... -> RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0. |
| 20:29.58 | pole | ah damn it... is there anyway to just totally start from scratch? |
| 20:30.06 | pole | recreate the ramdisk too? |
| 20:42.53 | pole | what the fuck... this is really getting to be a problem |
| 20:44.34 | pole | anyone know what this kernel image is for? http://openzaurus.org/official/experimental/collie/zImage-2.4.21-cl1.bin |
| 20:44.48 | pole | what the ramdisk size is supposed to be? |
| 20:46.42 | MG_Tak | anyone know if ZeeSWAN utils and the version of the kernel need to coincide? |
| 20:53.45 | pole | MG_Tak: can you tell me what device in /dev/ is the ramdisk mounted on /dev/ram? |
| 20:54.39 | MG_Tak | /dev/ram1 on /dev type minix |
| 20:55.27 | pole | MG_Tak: oh, im sorry, i meant the device that gets mounted on /mnt/ram |
| 20:55.53 | MG_Tak | Nothing. |
| 20:56.32 | pole | MG_Tak: how do i create the filesystem and mount it then? |
| 20:56.45 | MG_Tak | pole: I don't know |
| 20:56.51 | pole | T_T |
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| 20:59.22 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.16 | sheenmaster | Who was asking for cross compilation help? |
| 21:02.28 | cfowler | shhenmaster: me |
| 21:02.28 | sheenmaster | http://www.ailis.de/~k/knowledge/crosscompiling/toolchain.php |
| 21:02.37 | sheenmaster | That's the best source tutorial I've seen so far. |
| 21:03.07 | cfowler | Perfect |
| 21:03.54 | sheenmaster | cfowler: np |
| 21:04.30 | sheenmaster | It's rather generic, I plan to make a script that does all of this. |
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| 23:48.06 | VampireZIM | UX50 is so fucking cool |
| 23:48.18 | VampireZIM | anyone want to buy my SONY VAIO C1X? |
| 23:48.20 | VampireZIM | 60GB HD |
| 23:48.30 | VampireZIM | $500 |
| 23:48.37 | VampireZIM | like new |
| 23:48.51 | VampireZIM | it runs LINUX |
| 23:48.52 | VampireZIM | :P |
| 23:49.45 | raster | i'll give ya $50 |
| 23:49.56 | W8TVI | I'll give ya $10 |
| 23:50.00 | W8TVI | :) |
| 23:50.08 | VampireZIM | no, maybe you didnt understand, $500 |
| 23:50.10 | VampireZIM | :P |
| 23:50.14 | W8TVI | I'll give ya $10 |
| 23:50.23 | VampireZIM | ok |
| 23:50.27 | VampireZIM | want my paypal account? |
| 23:50.29 | raster | u dont understand - the best OFFEr u got is $50 |
| 23:50.31 | VampireZIM | i could use an extra $10 |
| 23:50.53 | VampireZIM | i will take that as a non-refundable down payment |
| 23:51.00 | cfowler | Are there any sniffing programs other than Kismet available for the Zaurus? |
| 23:52.59 | ljp | wellenreider |
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| 23:56.56 | fliplap | and "discoverer" |