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| 00:25.44 | Taekero | YES |
| 00:25.49 | Taekero | i found the defective file |
| 00:25.57 | Taekero | /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng |
| 00:26.07 | Taekero | its missing some excapes |
| 00:26.32 | Taekero | ex; startcmd="$startcmd ssid=$SSID" |
| 00:26.36 | munky_out | hey |
| 00:26.59 | munky_ | i want to game on my zaurus |
| 00:27.12 | munky_ | i tried zsnes on Qt and it was sluggish and horrid |
| 00:27.26 | munky_ | any other solutions? |
| 00:29.25 | rev|z | yo |
| 00:29.33 | munky_ | hey |
| 00:29.37 | rev|z | not that i know |
| 00:29.55 | rev|z | unless you used an x11 or other tk-based snes emu |
| 00:29.56 | munky_ | i know that :-/ |
| 00:30.06 | munky_ | its gonna suck |
| 00:30.25 | rev|z | winCE does SNES emu fine, so there is no excuse for zsnes not being better |
| 00:30.45 | munky_ | you run wince? |
| 00:30.51 | rev|z | used to |
| 00:31.15 | rev|z | not any more, i only have a couple PDAs noe |
| 00:31.18 | rev|z | er, now |
| 00:31.25 | munky_ | k |
| 00:31.29 | rev|z | and the zaurus i have is the only newer one |
| 00:31.35 | munky_ | we've been over this... |
| 00:31.53 | rev|z | but a WinCE machine was my main computer until a couple menths ago |
| 00:31.56 | munky_ | so b4 i get rid of qtopia...how can i run X in it so i can see if i like it on my zaurus |
| 00:32.27 | rev|z | go check out ZSI |
| 00:32.33 | rev|z | packages there IIRC |
| 00:32.36 | munky_ | do you have link |
| 00:32.42 | rev|z | google.com |
| 00:32.49 | munky_ | again i missed it b4...cna you define IIRC |
| 00:33.32 | munky_ | brb |
| 00:35.57 | Taekero | YAY... no errors using cardctl now |
| 00:36.04 | rev|z | taek wooo |
| 00:36.12 | munky_ | back |
| 00:36.20 | rev|z | iirc is if i remember correctly |
| 00:37.03 | Taekero | okay, that needs to be noted... /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng dosen't like SSIDs with spaces |
| 00:37.26 | Taekero | thats what my whole problem has been |
| 00:38.05 | Taekero | its also normal for eth0 to be your wireless card, if your driver is prism2_cs |
| 00:38.34 | Taekero | iwconfig does not work with _ng stuff |
| 00:39.22 | Taekero | i learned a lot out of this... now lets hope it works tomorrow, when i'm back on campus.. so i can test |
| 00:42.23 | Taekero | line 191: startcmd="$startcmd ssid=\"$SSID\"" |
| 00:42.45 | munky_ | g2g bbk |
| 00:42.47 | munky_ | *bbl |
| 00:43.00 | Taekero | line 231: "ssid="$DesiredSSID" authtype=${AuthType:="opensystem"}` |
| 00:43.42 | Taekero | and that should be it |
| 00:47.51 | Taekero | at least it's logged somewhere now, heh |
| 00:47.53 | Taekero | :) |
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| 01:29.37 | devnull | hello....anyone able to get the Sandisk Connect Plus to run on the SL-5600 ? |
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| 01:30.10 | VampireZIM | i heard it didnt |
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| 01:35.06 | devnull | so does anyone know how to get the Sandisk Connect Plus CF card to work on the SL-5600 with Sharp's ROM |
| 01:35.18 | devnull | would any other ROM make it work? |
| 01:36.29 | devnull | current my Z does not put the CF icon in the taskbar, therefore the 128 MB nor the wi-fi is working |
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| 01:38.14 | rev|z | anyone know how to exit qpe? |
| 01:38.24 | rev|z | on the c760 |
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| 01:54.37 | MG_Tak | hi treke|home |
| 01:55.57 | treke|home | evening |
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| 02:29.29 | Arrummzen | Does anyone here know how to get Formulae 1 to run on a SL-C760? |
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| 02:42.03 | zlvr | Hi everyone |
| 02:42.58 | zlvr | need some help with the C750 and Netgear's MA701 card ... It was working till a few weeks ago when I tweaked /etc/pcmcia/config for trying to get Cisco's Wi-Fi card (PCMCIA) Aironet 350 working with a CF/PCMCIA adapter ... |
| 02:43.08 | zlvr | after that my MA701 card has never worked ... |
| 02:43.35 | zlvr | what are the things I should check for ? Whenever I try to connect, I get the message Network Device Busy |
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| 02:50.24 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | hey can someone help me out |
| 02:50.48 | W8TVI | no |
| 02:50.55 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | ok, thanks |
| 02:51.20 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | why? |
| 02:51.35 | W8TVI | becouse |
| 02:51.49 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | because why? |
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| 02:52.00 | W8TVI | becouse |
| 02:52.32 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | because why? |
| 02:52.35 | W8TVI | becouse |
| 02:52.52 | W8TVI | becouse I said so. |
| 02:53.00 | zlvr | anyone with a problem similar to mine ? :( |
| 02:53.13 | W8TVI | becouse you havent told us your problem |
| 02:53.41 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | anyways, can you tell me if there is a way to get an original 5600 rom bios? I am going to buy a zaurus from a guy and he lost the original rom when he installed a different one |
| 02:54.15 | W8TVI | vvvwwvvwvwvv: you can get it from the zaurus website |
| 02:54.27 | W8TVI | same rom used for the 5500 |
| 02:55.26 | zlvr | strange ... no one online uses an MA701 Netgear Wi-Fi card here ? |
| 02:55.27 | W8TVI | zlvr: you need to restore the orginal file |
| 02:55.31 | W8TVI | I do |
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| 02:55.36 | zlvr | uh oh ... how could I do that ? |
| 02:55.50 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | sorry, i got disconnected. |
| 02:55.50 | W8TVI | but I use it on an sl-5500 |
| 02:56.02 | zlvr | can you send me one ? ... should it be the /etc/pcmcia/config file ? or some other one ? |
| 02:56.03 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | anyone got an answer? |
| 02:56.05 | W8TVI | vvvwwvvwvwvv: same rom used for the 5500 |
| 02:56.13 | W8TVI | vvvwwvvwvwvv: you can get it from the zaurus website |
| 02:56.20 | zlvr | but why would tweaking it cause the card to stop working ? |
| 02:56.29 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | i heard it isnīt the same |
| 02:56.30 | W8TVI | zlvr: I can't... my zaurus is dead |
| 02:56.39 | zlvr | its just some text entries ... binding specific cards to drivers |
| 02:56.40 | W8TVI | vvvwwvvwvwvv: you heard wrong |
| 02:56.46 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | ohh, sorry |
| 02:57.06 | W8TVI | zlvr: its easy to mess stuff up that way in linux |
| 02:57.50 | W8TVI | zlvr: you should just do a full reset... you'll have to reload everything but it should work again |
| 02:58.36 | W8TVI | reload all your porgrams that is... |
| 02:59.18 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | Is a 5600 with a ambicom wireless card for $375 a good deal? |
| 02:59.29 | W8TVI | yeah |
| 03:00.03 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | just checking, i am about to buy it and want to make sure im not getting ripped off or something |
| 03:00.27 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | is it a good deal even know he canīt find the original rom? |
| 03:00.58 | W8TVI | yeah... you can put the sharp rom on there if you want |
| 03:02.11 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | Does pretty much everyone use thekompany rom anyways? |
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| 03:09.02 | fliplap | word up |
| 03:10.42 | treke|laptop | yo flipflap |
| 03:10.54 | treke|laptop | this is weird :p |
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| 03:11.45 | w8tvi_ | vvvwwvvwvwvv: http://www.zaurus.com/dev/tools/rom.htm |
| 03:11.48 | w8tvi_ | zlvr: http://www.zaurus.com/dev/tools/rom.htm |
| 03:11.49 | w8tvi_ | you can get the 5600 rom there |
| 03:11.53 | w8tvi_ | and you can get a tarball of the root filesystem |
| 03:13.14 | Taekero | w8tvi_: it wont have qtopia... the 5600 initrd |
| 03:14.11 | Taekero | vvvwwvvwvwvv: i have a backup of my 5600's initrd; i couldn't find a way to backup the kernel, however |
| 03:14.32 | fliplap | vvvwwvvwvwvv: i hate your nickname |
| 03:14.36 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | sorry |
| 03:14.40 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | why? |
| 03:14.47 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | everyone says that |
| 03:14.52 | fliplap | its long and annoying |
| 03:15.01 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | i know, thats why i have it |
| 03:15.06 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | and its original |
| 03:15.22 | fliplap | so is putting forks in your eyes, but its still stupid |
| 03:15.34 | treke|laptop | its not orignal. It's annoying |
| 03:15.40 | vvvwwvvwvwvv | sorry |
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| 03:24.20 | fliplap | right, well, anyone have any idea howto drop to a shell in Opie 1.0 |
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| 03:24.49 | W8TVI | yep |
| 03:24.55 | W8TVI | you use the shut down app |
| 03:25.03 | SnarfTek | welp, I ended up with a sweet deal on an ambicom CF 802.11b card |
| 03:25.23 | fliplap | W8TVI: not in 1.0, it brings you back to opie-login |
| 03:25.42 | snarf_ | booting OZ |
| 03:25.44 | W8TVI | the right hand drop down box has quit |
| 03:25.51 | fliplap | W8TVI: and if you try to quit from there it drops you to a shell but you can't type |
| 03:26.14 | fliplap | i can get some odd chars across if i mash the keyboard, but i can't login |
| 03:26.30 | W8TVI | restart and remove opie-logon |
| 03:26.39 | W8TVI | then try again |
| 03:26.39 | fliplap | it is removed |
| 03:26.44 | treke|laptop | you cant use the keyboard after logging out |
| 03:26.48 | treke|laptop | you need to reboot |
| 03:26.51 | W8TVI | I could |
| 03:27.05 | fliplap | i removed it in 0.9.9, it isn't installed now |
| 03:27.16 | fliplap | checked after i installed 1.0 |
| 03:27.16 | W8TVI | talk to kergoth |
| 03:27.37 | fliplap | treke|laptop: how are you dropping to a shell now? |
| 03:28.29 | fliplap | W8TVI: are you running 1.0 or .9.9 |
| 03:28.35 | W8TVI | 1.0 |
| 03:29.15 | fliplap | what device |
| 03:29.20 | W8TVI | well... at least before my zaurus died |
| 03:29.22 | W8TVI | sl-5500 |
| 03:29.25 | treke|laptop | fliplap, I dont have a zaurus |
| 03:29.27 | fliplap | odd |
| 03:29.43 | fliplap | treke|laptop: ipaq now? |
| 03:29.51 | treke|laptop | fliplap, I've always had an ipaq |
| 03:29.57 | fliplap | ah |
| 03:30.14 | fliplap | i guess there's no reason for you to drop to a shell :-) |
| 03:30.18 | W8TVI | so why are you in the zaurus channel? :P |
| 03:34.09 | treke|laptop | W8TVI, because I feel like it |
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| 03:37.16 | fliplap | ok, opie-login is installed, problem is, task-opie-minimal depends on it, and everything depends on task-opie-minimal |
| 03:37.22 | treke|laptop | yup |
| 03:37.23 | treke|laptop | force depends |
| 03:37.47 | fliplap | is it going to force removal, or just ignore the depends |
| 03:37.57 | treke|laptop | just ignores the depends |
| 03:38.28 | fliplap | k |
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| 03:54.47 | mspencer | Hmm...finally hooked an ammeter up to my monster battery pack. |
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| 03:55.16 | mspencer | I have 18000 mAh of battery, and my Zaurus (with 802.11b card and full screen brightness) is pulling about 160 mA. |
| 03:56.22 | treke|laptop | hehe |
| 03:56.38 | treke|laptop | too bad its probably a brick :p |
| 03:56.44 | mspencer | in theory, that's 4 days 16 hours 30 minutes of power. In practice, the voltage will eventually dip low enough that it won't be able to use that power. |
| 03:56.54 | mspencer | Two bricks. This is 8 D cells we're talking about here :) |
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| 03:58.23 | fliplap | HAH |
| 03:58.27 | fliplap | hah even |
| 03:58.45 | mspencer | wow...when I close the lid, shutting off the backlight completely...it only goes down to about 148 mA |
| 03:59.14 | W8TVI | hey mspencer |
| 03:59.16 | mspencer | heya |
| 03:59.18 | W8TVI | I made myself one |
| 03:59.25 | mspencer | ack, bad timing on my part -- the dryer just quit. brb... |
| 03:59.35 | fliplap | yeah, i need to build one of those |
| 03:59.35 | W8TVI | out of 4AA's |
| 03:59.49 | fliplap | how long does your AA one last? |
| 04:00.01 | W8TVI | they are 1800mAh AAs |
| 04:00.02 | fliplap | 8 D cells is a bit much for me |
| 04:00.05 | W8TVI | I dont know |
| 04:00.14 | W8TVI | it didn't work right |
| 04:00.23 | fliplap | heh |
| 04:00.54 | W8TVI | I think I needed a diode |
| 04:01.12 | W8TVI | it seemed to drain the internal battery |
| 04:01.46 | W8TVI | and the battery meter on the z wouldn't work right again, untill I rebooted it |
| 04:02.31 | W8TVI | but then just a hour latter when I was running it off my car power adapter, the adapters fuse blew and killed the Z |
| 04:03.29 | mspencer | back |
| 04:03.58 | fliplap | suck |
| 04:04.00 | mspencer | wow, really? I'm sorry to hear that... |
| 04:05.13 | W8TVI | it might have shorted... I was using radio shack parts |
| 04:05.44 | mspencer | That's strange though...1800 mAh AA's make about one tenth the capacity...so there'd be a lot more voltage drop under load. |
| 04:06.31 | W8TVI | I wonder if running it like that messed something up with the charging circuit |
| 04:06.41 | mspencer | My pack's being discharged at a leisurely C/110-ish...while yours would be getting beaten up a bit at C/11... |
| 04:07.10 | mspencer | that's an 11-hour discharge...except that capacities are usually quoted assuming a C/20 discharge rate. So you'd get less than 11 hours... |
| 04:07.28 | W8TVI | we tried an amp meter on it and it showed a drain like you said |
| 04:07.32 | mspencer | I suppose it's possible, but...was the car adapter regulated? |
| 04:07.35 | W8TVI | same figures |
| 04:08.01 | W8TVI | it was the $20 one that they got |
| 04:08.07 | W8TVI | 300mAh |
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| 04:08.37 | W8TVI | I know it wasn't enough to run the thing by itself on |
| 04:08.40 | mspencer | mAh is capacity...do you mean mA? |
| 04:08.55 | W8TVI | but it seemed to keep the charge from droping |
| 04:08.57 | W8TVI | yeah |
| 04:08.58 | mspencer | (well, it's 'energy'...) |
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| 04:09.19 | mspencer | That's similar to what I'd notice when my battery pack would run low. |
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| 04:09.39 | W8TVI | and if the draw that the amp meter was showing what right, it was probly just enough |
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| 04:10.20 | W8TVI | but I dont undstand why when the fuse blew, it messed something up |
| 04:10.36 | W8TVI | it sort of ran for the next half hour |
| 04:10.58 | W8TVI | I think when the fuse blew, it took out the charge circuit |
| 04:11.07 | mspencer | eww... |
| 04:11.22 | W8TVI | I was tring to charge it during the next half hour |
| 04:11.39 | W8TVI | but it died and hasn't worked sence |
| 04:12.00 | W8TVI | I got a zaurus for $10 that was ran over by a car |
| 04:12.04 | mspencer | damn...RMA time I guess...that or buy a standalone battery charger... |
| 04:12.22 | W8TVI | but it wont run off another battery eather |
| 04:12.28 | mspencer | or make a FrankenZaurus with your $10 throwaway :) |
| 04:12.56 | W8TVI | I tried a nokia liIon that was the same specs as the sharp one |
| 04:13.05 | W8TVI | wouldnt turn on |
| 04:13.09 | W8TVI | or anything |
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| 04:13.33 | W8TVI | thats why I got the $10 zaurus |
| 04:13.54 | W8TVI | she said that the corner of the screen lights up when you try to turn it on |
| 04:14.07 | W8TVI | she sent it priorty saturday |
| 04:14.16 | W8TVI | so it should be here in the morning |
| 04:14.34 | W8TVI | and I have my zaurus all in peices |
| 04:15.31 | fliplap | sweet |
| 04:15.53 | fliplap | a $10 Z is worth it even if the screen doesn't work |
| 04:16.19 | W8TVI | I have a good screen |
| 04:19.17 | W8TVI | the backup battery still has 2.1 volts |
| 04:21.54 | W8TVI | I'm hoping that becouse the screen lights up in one corner, that means that main board is still good... |
| 04:23.08 | fliplap | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3042266454&category=11725 wtf |
| 04:23.38 | fliplap | its nifty, i'm just not sure i understand exactly what its used for |
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| 04:24.22 | fliplap | it appears to be a hardware mpeg4 encoder, that just writes to memory cards |
| 04:24.35 | W8TVI | thats what it is |
| 04:35.30 | rev|z | does the keypebble vnc viewer work for anyone? |
| 04:35.41 | rev|z | doesnt work for me with any server ive tried |
| 04:37.18 | treke|laptop | it should work |
| 04:37.26 | treke|laptop | what servers have you tried? |
| 04:37.33 | rev|z | tightvnc |
| 04:37.39 | rev|z | and OSXvnc |
| 04:37.43 | treke|laptop | what happens? |
| 04:37.55 | treke|laptop | keypebble will go away soon :p |
| 04:38.07 | rev|z | on OSXvnc, i just get a blank white space |
| 04:38.14 | treke|laptop | hmmm |
| 04:38.18 | rev|z | and w/ tightvnc on win2k, i get a crash |
| 04:38.22 | treke|laptop | and on tight? |
| 04:38.32 | treke|laptop | the server crashes or the client crashes? |
| 04:39.25 | rev|z | client |
| 04:39.31 | rev|z | server is intact |
| 04:39.35 | treke|laptop | what version of the server on what OS? |
| 04:40.04 | rev|z | tight is win2k, recent version, but i cannot recall (my work machine) |
| 04:40.13 | treke|laptop | get the version tomorrow |
| 04:40.40 | rev|z | k |
| 04:40.41 | treke|laptop | what version of keypebble? |
| 04:41.55 | rev|z | most recent afaik- 1.5.0 20020319 |
| 04:42.08 | treke|laptop | that isnt the most recent version |
| 04:42.10 | treke|laptop | upgrade |
| 04:42.13 | rev|z | k |
| 04:42.57 | treke|laptop | the osx machine is probably running at 32bit color. The old keypebble didnt support that |
| 04:43.07 | rev|z | ahh |
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| 04:43.16 | treke|laptop | a white screen is odd though |
| 04:43.20 | treke|laptop | it should be black |
| 04:43.20 | Masticator | sup dudes. |
| 04:43.31 | rev|z | is the opie1.0.0 the newest? |
| 04:43.36 | rev|z | mmhmm |
| 04:43.39 | treke|laptop | yes it is |
| 04:43.55 | rev|z | and just now nothing happened, not even a white screen |
| 04:44.22 | treke|laptop | like I said. it's going away |
| 04:44.27 | treke|laptop | keypebble is a pile of crap |
| 04:44.53 | rev|z | ahh |
| 04:45.00 | rev|z | i'm fine with that |
| 04:45.44 | treke|laptop | Need to get around to rewriting it though. Keypebble cant even handle simple encodings |
| 04:46.03 | rev|z | mmhmm |
| 04:46.04 | rev|z | oi |
| 04:46.10 | rev|z | pure ass |
| 04:46.48 | treke|laptop | it knows copyrect and raw :p |
| 04:47.00 | rev|z | hah |
| 04:47.25 | treke|laptop | tight encoding is much nicer |
| 04:48.20 | rev|z | mmhmm |
| 04:49.28 | rev|z | ugh |
| 04:49.37 | rev|z | the file is corrupt evidentally |
| 04:49.42 | rev|z | not in gzip format |
| 04:49.50 | treke|laptop | not corrupt at all |
| 04:49.53 | treke|laptop | just not a tar.gz |
| 04:49.56 | treke|laptop | it's an ar |
| 04:50.30 | rev|z | ar? |
| 04:50.33 | treke|laptop | ar |
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| 04:50.47 | epoch | hrm... I just finished installing like 4MBs of packages, after upgrading to the v3 sharp ROM |
| 04:50.52 | epoch | (on a 5500) |
| 04:50.59 | rev|z | ipkg complains of this- does opie use a different compressor? |
| 04:51.18 | epoch | it's been sitting there for about 15mins so far, after clicking on the X to exit the add/remove programs app |
| 04:51.22 | treke|laptop | sharp used the old ipkg. The format changed |
| 04:51.29 | rev|z | ahhh |
| 04:51.31 | rev|z | shit |
| 04:51.33 | rev|z | that sucks |
| 04:51.39 | treke|laptop | It changed back in 2001 :p |
| 04:51.47 | rev|z | anyway to convert? |
| 04:51.58 | treke|laptop | ar x keypebble.ipk |
| 04:52.00 | epoch | is it safe to hard-reset my zaurus while it's hung like this? |
| 04:52.01 | treke|laptop | cd / |
| 04:52.01 | devnull | ok, i got the 5600 to recognize the Sandisk Connect Plus card as a wi-fi card, but I cannot get it to see it as a 128MB memory card |
| 04:52.06 | treke|laptop | tar xvzf ~/data.tar.gz |
| 04:52.23 | devnull | anyone out there got this to work both as a wi-fi and memory card? |
| 04:52.41 | treke|laptop | doubt it |
| 04:52.51 | fliplap | yeah, probably not |
| 04:52.59 | rev|z | thanks treke |
| 04:53.09 | rev|z | will that update the ipkg db? |
| 04:53.15 | treke|laptop | probably needs some screwing about with pcmcia-cs. Its a rather interesting id that no one has tried before |
| 04:53.17 | treke|laptop | rev|z, no |
| 04:53.30 | treke|laptop | the file structure hasnt changed |
| 04:53.33 | Taekero | i'm gonna head to bed... later |
| 04:53.41 | treke|laptop | and keypebble hasnt changed in 5 months |
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| 04:54.16 | fliplap | devnull: did you already try mounting it? |
| 04:54.27 | fliplap | i don't remember what the dev node is for CF, but you should try it |
| 04:55.10 | rev|z | oi |
| 04:55.12 | rev|z | no ar |
| 04:55.15 | treke|laptop | ha |
| 04:55.17 | rev|z | off to zsi |
| 04:55.31 | devnull | no, how do I mount it....I tried mount cf in /dev |
| 04:55.58 | fliplap | gimmie a second |
| 04:56.12 | devnull | in /mnt that is |
| 04:56.25 | fliplap | yeah yeah |
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| 04:56.53 | fliplap | just try mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf |
| 04:57.05 | devnull | as root? |
| 04:57.10 | rev|z | i think the zaurus wrecked my SD cards |
| 04:57.13 | fliplap | yes |
| 04:57.17 | fliplap | as root |
| 04:57.27 | rev|z | cuz it be unformattable now |
| 04:57.29 | devnull | ok...let me try |
| 04:57.37 | fliplap | rev|z: suck |
| 04:58.47 | devnull | I got: Mount failed: no such device or address |
| 04:59.23 | fliplap | oh well, was worth a shot |
| 04:59.34 | fliplap | try fdisk /dev/hda |
| 04:59.59 | fliplap | tho i'm assuming the thing is already formatted, it might not be |
| 05:00.25 | devnull | not sure...no documentation anywhere with the card |
| 05:01.14 | devnull | I don't have fdisk installed |
| 05:01.48 | devnull | I can try that when I do....any other ideas on what might be happening? |
| 05:02.15 | fliplap | it might just not be supported |
| 05:02.18 | fliplap | in fact, it probably isnt |
| 05:04.18 | devnull | So, the regular Sandisk 128MB CF cards work but this one doesn't....this means that they changed something or is it confusing the Zaurus |
| 05:05.00 | treke|laptop | of course they changed something |
| 05:05.02 | devnull | when do you think the Zaurus will support both features on this card and where is the best place to keep looking for a driver? |
| 05:05.10 | fliplap | i'm sure they had to change something to squish a wifi card and a mem card together |
| 05:05.22 | treke|laptop | devnull, The zaurus will most likely not support the card |
| 05:05.37 | treke|laptop | I would be very surprised if it does. Very surpries |
| 05:05.39 | fliplap | nod |
| 05:06.11 | mspencer | I just got pointers from an electronics-savvy friend on building a switching regulator for my battery pack. |
| 05:06.17 | devnull | interesting....any ideas why this may be the case? |
| 05:06.31 | treke|laptop | devnull, Easy. It's two devices in one card |
| 05:06.33 | fliplap | oooo chili cookoff episode of the simpsons |
| 05:06.34 | fliplap | adios |
| 05:06.56 | devnull | thanx |
| 05:07.06 | treke|laptop | devnull, clearly it works differently from other cards |
| 05:07.53 | devnull | so the windows OS can support this and Linux would not be able to |
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| 05:08.59 | treke|laptop | out of the box, yes |
| 05:09.14 | treke|laptop | with work you could probably make it work |
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| 05:11.27 | devnull | what about if not using them at the same time? |
| 05:11.46 | treke|laptop | probably not |
| 05:12.28 | devnull | don't you think it would be possible to load it as a CF memory card, eject it and load it as a wi-fi card? |
| 05:12.42 | treke|laptop | no |
| 05:12.49 | devnull | just trying to see where the brick wall is |
| 05:13.43 | mspencer | Hmm...with the AC adapter plugged in but the charger shut off (as in, the Zaurus is off and the internal battery is full)...it uses 7 mA. |
| 05:13.59 | devnull | so then, which is the best low-power wi-fi card for the Zaurus? |
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| 05:14.35 | mspencer | Don't ask me about low-power -- I've got a big honkin battery. I don't need low power :-) |
| 05:14.43 | treke|laptop | look up the old modem/network pcmcia cards and see what they did |
| 05:14.50 | treke|laptop | maybe it's the same thing |
| 05:21.23 | devnull | oh well....I guess it can work on my office laptop instead since both modes are supported in 2000/XP |
| 05:22.03 | devnull | just don't know why I would need an extra 128MB on a card for my laptop with a 80 GB drive |
| 05:22.15 | devnull | I guess a little extra doesn't hurt |
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| 11:39.15 | r0dzilla_ | good morning |
| 11:39.25 | MG_Tak | morning |
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| 11:39.43 | r0dzilla_ | my Z seems to be missing evm |
| 11:39.49 | r0dzilla_ | I have the 3.10 rom |
| 11:39.59 | r0dzilla_ | what do I need to install to get java back? |
| 11:42.53 | r0dzilla | what provides evm? |
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| 11:52.34 | r0dzilla | looks like jeode provides it |
| 11:52.38 | r0dzilla | hmm |
| 11:52.58 | r0dzilla | will have to do more searching at home... |
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| 12:01.26 | r0dzilla | well, I'll be back tonight when I can work on my Z |
| 12:01.28 | r0dzilla | later guys |
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| 15:31.59 | W8TVI | weird... on my new zaurus, I plug in the charger, the charge light comes on then it goes off after about 5 secs |
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| 15:32.39 | MG_Tak | W8TVI: mine goes off when the zaurus is fully charged |
| 15:32.58 | W8TVI | mines not fully charged |
| 15:35.34 | MG_Tak | Does the 'charging' animation come up in the systray-ish part? |
| 15:36.19 | W8TVI | its turned off right now |
| 15:36.32 | W8TVI | I just took two zaurii and made one good one |
| 15:36.53 | W8TVI | (hopefuly good) |
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| 18:12.01 | MadScientist | It's ALIVE! |
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| 18:36.03 | MG_Tak | W8TVI: what is? :) |
| 18:37.48 | W8TVI | my zaurus is alive again |
| 18:38.06 | MG_Tak | cool |
| 18:39.06 | fliplap | sweet |
| 18:40.54 | W8TVI | libssl |
| 18:40.59 | W8TVI | or somethng |
| 18:45.45 | fliplap | you'd need to compile the libs for arm |
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| 18:49.15 | MG_Tak | Okay. That doesn't sound like it should be too difficult. |
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| 18:50.06 | MG_Tak | Hey rev|z |
| 18:50.12 | rev|z | hey |
| 18:50.19 | treke | mornin rev |
| 18:50.22 | MG_Tak | That SDK, it compiles for ARM properly. |
| 18:50.29 | rev|z | oh? |
| 18:50.33 | rev|z | hey treke |
| 18:50.36 | rev|z | hmpf |
| 18:50.41 | rev|z | on what distro? |
| 18:50.47 | MG_Tak | rev|z: Gentoo |
| 18:51.03 | MG_Tak | rev|z: doesn't compile for x86 though |
| 18:51.16 | MG_Tak | Sadly, it's the exact opposite of the problem I was having with SDK 1.7 |
| 18:51.29 | treke | f*ck gentoo |
| 18:52.35 | MG_Tak | treke: that's a different approach to the problem, but I don't think it'll fix it much. |
| 18:53.00 | treke | give it a shot |
| 18:53.03 | treke | you might be surprised |
| 18:53.24 | MG_Tak | treke: how do you suggest I proceed? |
| 18:53.53 | treke | switch to debian |
| 18:54.51 | MG_Tak | treke: and that fixes the SDK 1.5 issue? :) |
| 18:55.33 | treke | I've compiled the 1.5 source before using it |
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| 18:56.24 | MG_Tak | Anyway, I'm off of work, heading home. |
| 18:56.25 | MG_Tak | bbiab |
| 18:58.12 | rev|z | hrmmm |
| 18:58.16 | rev|z | ciao |
| 18:59.31 | treke | hmmm. wonder if my zaurus has shipped yet |
| 19:00.09 | rev|z | hmmmmm |
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| 19:54.30 | treke|wherever | rev|z: you know how I said I wished my c760 had arrived? |
| 19:54.51 | treke|wherever | rev|z: Went home for lunch and found a fedex door tag. They had tried delivering it at 10am |
| 19:55.01 | MG_Tak | treke|wherever: doh |
| 19:55.03 | MG_Tak | go pick it up :) |
| 19:55.09 | treke|wherever | MG_Tak: Dont think I can |
| 19:55.13 | treke|wherever | gonna call them though |
| 19:55.32 | treke|wherever | the money didnt get actually transferred out of my account until 9am this morning :p |
| 19:55.46 | fliplap | you can usually pick up from fedex after like 5pm |
| 19:55.51 | MG_Tak | treke|wherever: you probably could if you called them but if it's anywhere like where I live, it's at least 40 minutes from where anyone lives :) |
| 19:55.59 | treke|wherever | fliplap: This one has an "Unable to release" sticker on it |
| 19:56.04 | treke|wherever | going to call them anyways |
| 19:56.08 | fliplap | ah |
| 19:56.24 | fliplap | i had to show ID when i picked up my laptop |
| 19:56.38 | treke|wherever | wonder if anything is due for customs |
| 19:57.36 | treke|wherever | fliplap: I ordered saturday night. This is really fast |
| 19:58.29 | fliplap | nice |
| 19:59.23 | MG_Tak | My father fedexed something to me from France one day. He went there at 5pm one day, it was at my place in NJ at 5pm the next day. That's less than 30 hours. |
| 19:59.39 | MG_Tak | But it's more impressive because he took it to the office near closing. |
| 19:59.48 | treke|wherever | yeah. this left hong kong at 4:30 pm yesterday |
| 19:59.57 | treke|wherever | probably around 30 hours |
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| 20:10.37 | sig | what is the other linux os i can put on my zaurus other than sharps rom? |
| 20:11.09 | MG_Tak | OpenZaurus? |
| 20:12.49 | treke|wherever | cool. After a lot of fighting I got a human being. I can pick it up, they just arent allowed to leave it on my doorstep ( like they pay attetntion to that) |
| 20:13.26 | MG_Tak | (leave it on a doorstep, that is) |
| 20:13.31 | treke|wherever | hehe |
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| 20:13.46 | treke|wherever | my parents routinley have rifles left ont heir doorstep :p |
| 20:13.58 | sjohnson | FedEx is good about things like that |
| 20:14.06 | MG_Tak | That's frightening. |
| 20:14.25 | treke|wherever | ( stepfather collects old rifles) |
| 20:14.42 | sjohnson | Other shipper I've dealt with have left shipments on my porch that are marked Signature Required. |
| 20:15.09 | treke|wherever | other shippers who will go unamed, but use the initials UPS? :p |
| 20:15.25 | sjohnson | Which is why I avoid UPS and Air Born like the plague. |
| 20:15.37 | treke|wherever | UPS, it's pronounced oops |
| 20:16.23 | sjohnson | One dau I will call up UPS and demand to know where my shipment is. And then ask who signed for it when they say they delivered it. |
| 20:16.35 | treke|wherever | Mr. Door signed for it? |
| 20:18.02 | treke|wherever | gonna be tough waiting through the initial 8 hour charge to use ip :p |
| 20:18.07 | W8TVI | our UPS man has been comming here for years |
| 20:18.37 | sjohnson | treke|wherever: 8 hour battery charge? |
| 20:18.44 | W8TVI | if we aren't here, he'll leave it in our shed or car (if one of the cars is home) |
| 20:19.00 | treke|wherever | sjohnson: supposedly you are suppsed to let the 700 do an initial charging cycle so it can calculate capacity |
| 20:19.23 | treke|wherever | which wouldnt surprise me. Ipaqs are the same way |
| 20:19.42 | sjohnson | treke|wherever: Oh. That's a full charge and discharge cycle to allow the battery to judge it's capacity. |
| 20:19.48 | treke|wherever | yup |
| 20:21.01 | sjohnson | I had to do the same think on my laptop. It never quite displaued 100% in the power applet until I did that. |
| 20:22.03 | sjohnson | I was getting very tempted to get a c760, until I got a free 2215 IPAQ. |
| 20:22.18 | treke|wherever | 2200 looks nice |
| 20:22.22 | treke|wherever | no linux port though :) |
| 20:22.33 | sjohnson | not...yet :) |
| 20:22.54 | treke|wherever | sjohnson: You doing a port for crl? |
| 20:23.26 | sjohnson | treke|wherever: Nah. I don't have the time, but I will be a test subject once they start the port. |
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| 20:24.21 | sjohnson | I think HP has another best seller with the 2210. I think they hit a sweet spot in size, power and expandibility.. |
| 20:24.52 | treke|wherever | yeah. The kicker for me was the keyboard for the 760 and the battery. |
| 20:25.08 | treke|wherever | The keyboards on devices like the 5500 always seemed useless |
| 20:25.48 | MG_Tak | It's the first thing that got me looking at the Zaurus |
| 20:25.49 | sjohnson | I haven't found them to be useless. I tend to use them for more of my text input then scribbling on the screen. |
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| 20:26.36 | treke|wherever | MG_Tak: thats pretty much what I use my ipaq for :p |
| 20:26.41 | treke|wherever | opie aint that bad |
| 20:27.05 | MG_Tak | Compiling the x86 version of Zaurus code should compile with regular gcc/g++ right? |
| 20:27.12 | treke|wherever | yup |
| 20:27.23 | MG_Tak | treke|wherever: what'll you use your 760 for? |
| 20:27.33 | wijnand | has anyone every tried connecting the Z via WLAN using PPPoE? |
| 20:27.35 | sjohnson | It needs a bit of polish, but it's getting near a Palm level of user friendliness |
| 20:27.41 | treke|wherever | MG_Tak: pda. Note taking |
| 20:27.58 | sjohnson | c760 == laptop |
| 20:28.22 | treke|wherever | not that nice of a device :p |
| 20:28.29 | sjohnson | I'd be a lot more tempted, if I hadn't caved in and bought a laptop last year. |
| 20:28.43 | MG_Tak | treke|wherever: I like the distinctly PDA feel of the 5600 better than the C760 |
| 20:29.02 | sjohnson | Actually, it would have been a no brainer, c760 for sure. |
| 20:30.30 | treke|wherever | hmmm. this gentoo install is almost done |
| 20:30.31 | treke|wherever | thank god |
| 20:30.48 | MG_Tak | treke|wherever: thought you hated Gentoo..? |
| 20:30.54 | treke|wherever | MG_Tak: I do. |
| 20:31.00 | MG_Tak | ah |
| 20:31.07 | treke|wherever | MG_Tak: Still willing to give it a second chance |
| 20:31.38 | MG_Tak | treke|wherever: what do you not like about it? |
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| 20:32.36 | treke|wherever | MG_Tak: Seemed to take too much babysitting of upgrades to get the options I wanted. Time spent compiling. Some of the decisions about the base system. |
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| 20:32.44 | TCMAN | hi |
| 20:32.52 | treke|wherever | The package management seemed a bit unintuitive |
| 20:33.20 | treke|wherever | disk usage was a bit hi |
| 20:33.22 | treke|wherever | high |
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| 20:35.21 | treke|wherever | I havent finished stage 3 and I'm already using a gig of space :p |
| 20:35.43 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: gentoo ? |
| 20:35.47 | treke|wherever | TCMAN: yup |
| 20:36.23 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: indeed, it uses gobs of diskspace, but emerge should clean up after itself |
| 20:36.48 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: the only stuff that is left is source packages in /usr/portage/distfiles |
| 20:36.53 | treke|wherever | TCMAN: that isnt counting that stuff |
| 20:37.01 | treke|wherever | TCMAN: I put it on a different partition :p |
| 20:38.20 | treke|wherever | of course, I never got buildroot working on gentoo, so this might all get trashed tonight so I can do an oe build :p |
| 20:39.06 | TCMAN | treke|wherever all the stuff in var/tmp/portage should be cleaned up after build unless you do developer builds |
| 20:39.07 | MG_Tak | treke|wherever: didn't work for me.. |
| 20:39.26 | treke|wherever | TCMAN: /var/tmp was also moved. |
| 20:39.32 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: in usr it only keeps portage tree and source packages |
| 20:39.57 | treke|wherever | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.19 | treke|wherever | MG_Tak: THe sdk and buildroot are two completely different things |
| 20:40.36 | MG_Tak | treke|wherever: I tried installing buildroot. |
| 20:40.49 | treke|wherever | MG_Tak: When I last tried gentoo didnt have mawk, and I didnt feel like fixing the dependencies on stuff that wasnt in genoo |
| 20:40.52 | treke|wherever | like mawk |
| 20:41.27 | TCMAN | gentoo installs like 10 different versions of gawk (and libtool and autoconf) |
| 20:41.36 | treke|wherever | fun |
| 20:42.07 | treke|wherever | TCMAN: Buildroot specifically wanted mawk, and I didnt care to find out if that was for a reason, or just because that happens to be what debian ships |
| 20:42.08 | TCMAN | its because many packages depend on specific version of something |
| 20:42.32 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: i dunno, buildroot works for me in gentoo and i dont remember installing mawk |
| 20:42.37 | treke|wherever | libtool and autoconf can go to hell and die |
| 20:42.56 | treke|wherever | TCMAN: someone may haved fixed it. or just rewritten that part of buildroot |
| 20:44.52 | treke|wherever | oh well. If I can get the system to boot before I end lunch, I can build xf86 while at work :p |
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| 20:46.23 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: i just checked, i dont have mawk installed but buildroot seemed to compile |
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| 20:46.41 | treke|wherever | TCMAN: must have been fixed |
| 20:46.48 | treke|wherever | or perhaps I was building something you dont |
| 20:46.55 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: and my /var is 450MB :) |
| 20:47.05 | treke|wherever | hehe |
| 20:47.26 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: but i always put everything on one partition, i dont like to waste disk space for separate partitions |
| 20:47.58 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: my notebook drive is 40gb, 256mb for boot, some swap and rest for huge / |
| 20:48.16 | treke|wherever | what can I say. Habit |
| 20:48.48 | GpF | hmm... might sound dumb (then give me docs to RTFM), but how can I install OZ on my Sl-c750? A link would be enough... Thx! |
| 20:49.16 | GpF | or am I at the wrong place to ask? |
| 20:49.21 | treke|wherever | #openzaurus |
| 20:49.26 | GpF | ;] |
| 20:49.35 | GpF | thank you ;] gonna try |
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| 20:52.22 | TCMAN | treke|wherever is there any reason for that many partitions ? |
| 20:52.38 | treke|wherever | TCMAN: Makes a bit more sense on a server |
| 20:52.44 | treke|wherever | TCMAN: mostly habit for my workstation |
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| 20:53.30 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: for server, maybe especially that you can mount stuff readonly and have guaranteed log space |
| 20:53.47 | TCMAN | treke|wherever but for workstartion its only a waste of diskspace and flexibility |
| 20:53.57 | MG_Tak | TCMAN: it is useful if you reinstall your OS, or when you do backups, it's only a little bit of a help though. |
| 20:54.10 | treke|wherever | TCMAN: Like I said. Habit |
| 20:54.26 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: i targs /root and thats it :) |
| 20:54.38 | TCMAN | i mean tar.gz |
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| 20:55.31 | TCMAN | treke|wherever: i dont have any users on my workstation at all, now say something about me being lame :) |
| 20:55.57 | treke|wherever | hey. How you run your machine is your choice |
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| 20:56.53 | MG_Tak | hi George- |
| 20:57.11 | MG_Tak | TCMAN: you're a window weenie |
| 20:57.30 | TCMAN | yay! :) |
| 20:57.40 | MG_Tak | TCMAN: you're a weird window weenie. |
| 20:57.51 | MG_Tak | I guess that makes you a W3, you can start your own consortium |
| 20:58.15 | TCMAN | hehe |
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| 21:02.07 | George- | TCMAN: sod off and die |
| 21:02.45 | TCMAN | George- then i would be haunting you when you sleep too :) |
| 21:03.27 | TCMAN | George-: how are you doing ? |
| 21:03.59 | George- | TCMAN: downgraded my 5000D to 2.4.6 again |
| 21:04.23 | TCMAN | George-: boo, why? |
| 21:04.40 | TCMAN | George-: is the 2.4.19 that bad ? |
| 21:05.22 | TCMAN | btw, does anyone have hostap-0.0.4 ipk compiled for 2.4.6 ? |
| 21:06.03 | George- | TCMAN: Is there a working 2.4.19 for the Zaurus? |
| 21:06.31 | TCMAN | George-: which one did you use then ? 2.4.18 or what ? |
| 21:06.36 | George- | 2.4.18 |
| 21:06.42 | George- | my own build. |
| 21:06.50 | TCMAN | George-: oh, same thing |
| 21:07.02 | George- | no it's not. |
| 21:07.11 | George- | 2.4.18 is complete. 2.4.19 isn't. |
| 21:07.23 | TCMAN | George-: so what is the big change between 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 ? |
| 21:07.38 | George- | 2.4.19 DOESN'T WORK. |
| 21:07.45 | George- | That's what the big difference is |
| 21:08.29 | TCMAN | George-: yes, but its not like there are big architectural changes between 2.4.18 and .19 .20 .21 or whatever |
| 21:08.39 | George- | ... |
| 21:08.52 | TCMAN | George-: there was big memory/vm change after 2.4.6 right ? |
| 21:08.54 | George- | collie support on 2.4.19 isn't complete. End of story. |
| 21:09.31 | TCMAN | George-: like 2.4 sucked up until .10 or so and now it sucks less ? |
| 21:10.03 | George- | I can't be bothered to discuss this any more |
| 21:10.04 | George- | :P |
| 21:14.41 | TCMAN | poor me is waiting quietly for OZ 3.3 |
| 21:15.09 | George- | TCMAN: be daring. |
| 21:15.17 | George- | TCMAN: use the OZ builds from opie.net.wox.org/openzaurus |
| 21:15.28 | George- | but hey, if your Z blows up, it's not my fault :) |
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| 21:17.02 | TCMAN | George-: its fscked anyway |
| 21:18.04 | TCMAN | George- should i try dont use directory ? :))) |
| 21:18.38 | George- | that's 2.4.21 |
| 21:18.38 | George- | :P |
| 21:19.55 | George- | MG_Tak: bwahahahahaha |
| 21:20.41 | MG_Tak | George-: I can't blame you. |
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| 21:32.58 | TCMAN | nothing can go wrong but still i am little nervous about buying new car |
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| 21:33.49 | George- | BLOODY 2.4.18 |
| 21:35.54 | TCMAN | George- what again ? |
| 21:36.12 | George- | TCMAN: won't compile |
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| 21:36.24 | George- | arch/arm/mach-sa1100/sa1100.o(.text+0x3ae0): undefined reference to `collie_buzzer_volume' |
| 21:36.26 | George- | always gives that |
| 21:36.28 | George- | never gives up |
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| 21:40.04 | TCMAN | George- seems like you have to port collie buzzer :) |
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| 21:40.44 | George- | I don't need to port ANYTHING |
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| 21:42.18 | TCMAN | George- something is not compiled/linked though :) |
| 21:42.31 | George- | TCMAN: nah |
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| 21:50.16 | George- | ok, 2.4.18 boots. |
| 21:50.18 | George- | let's hope it works |
| 21:51.40 | George- | <George-> hi Stormy |
| 21:51.40 | George- | <-- Stormchaser has quit ("*poof*") |
| 21:51.47 | George- | well, that's jolly nice of him |
| 21:52.22 | MG_Tak | You're popular Georgieboy. |
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| 21:52.48 | George- | sod off and die |
| 21:52.50 | r0dzilla | evening |
| 21:53.12 | r0dzilla | where might I find jeode for 3.10 rom? |
| 22:00.54 | rev|z | sup chumps |
| 22:01.03 | MG_Tak | hi rev|z |
| 22:04.50 | rev|z | sup emgee |
| 22:05.01 | MG_Tak | rev|z: nothing good I'm afraid. |
| 22:05.15 | rev|z | arrr |
| 22:05.17 | MG_Tak | still facing the same compilation issue. |
| 22:05.17 | rev|z | that sucks |
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| 22:05.56 | rev|z | oi |
| 22:06.01 | rev|z | i've not had a look at my situation yet |
| 22:06.32 | rev|z | i wonder if i can compile cpp qt apps on my Z |
| 22:06.37 | rev|z | using the cc port to the Z |
| 22:06.44 | rev|z | but i wonder if it can do it all, or just some stuffs |
| 22:06.55 | treke | no reasont it cant |
| 22:06.55 | treke | it |
| 22:06.59 | treke | it's just a space issue |
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| 22:13.04 | rev|z | ah k |
| 22:13.17 | rev|z | didn't know if the zcc was some sort of semi-complete compiler |
| 22:13.27 | rev|z | but then again, i suppose, it prolly takes like a GB of swap to compile QPE |
| 22:13.28 | rev|z | alas |
| 22:13.40 | rev|z | and people wonder why i am not into c and cpp |
| 22:13.40 | treke | zcc is just someones attempt at a cute name for gcc compiled for arm |
| 22:13.44 | rev|z | ah ok |
| 22:13.47 | rev|z | pfft |
| 22:13.50 | treke | "port" |
| 22:13.52 | rev|z | zgcc it should be then |
| 22:13.52 | rev|z | yeah |
| 22:13.59 | rev|z | i thought perhaps it was a seperate compiler |
| 22:14.04 | treke | rev|z: This is why crap like that annoys me |
| 22:14.12 | treke | rev|z: if you just call it gcc people know what it is |
| 22:14.29 | treke | when you call it stuff like zcc and "qtopia-x" no one has a clue what they are working with |
| 22:15.05 | rev|z | yeah |
| 22:15.08 | rev|z | i concurr |
| 22:15.17 | rev|z | ff |
| 22:15.19 | rev|z | er uff |
| 22:18.54 | rev|z | i really need an alt-tab for QPE |
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| 22:28.51 | rev|z | yup |
| 22:28.58 | rev|z | like it couldn't find the header files or something |
| 22:29.06 | rev|z | first one was like QObject or QWidget |
| 22:29.08 | rev|z | not surprising |
| 22:29.25 | treke | rev|z: stuff about virtuals tables? |
| 22:29.34 | MG_Tak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.34 | MG_Tak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.34 | MG_Tak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.34 | MG_Tak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.34 | MG_Tak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.36 | MG_Tak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.39 | MG_Tak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.41 | MG_Tak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.55 | rev|z | huh? |
| 22:30.00 | rev|z | haha |
| 22:30.01 | rev|z | whooops |
| 22:30.09 | rev|z | you could write a lil script for that |
| 22:30.18 | rev|z | keep your pasteboards in sync |
| 22:30.20 | treke | rev|z: stuff about virtuals tables? |
| 22:30.35 | MG_Tak | komorn@pimp:/opt/Qtopia/example% g++ -o example main.o example.o examplebase.o moc_example.o moc_examplebase.o -L/opt/Qtopia/lib -lqpe -lqte |
| 22:30.39 | MG_Tak | main.o(.text+0x38): In function `main': |
| 22:30.39 | MG_Tak | That's what I meant to paste. |
| 22:30.41 | MG_Tak | : undefined reference to `QPEApplication::QPEApplication[in-charge](int&, char**, QApplication::Type)' |
| 22:31.30 | MG_Tak | rev|z: that'd have to be networked |
| 22:31.39 | MG_Tak | tcpcp..? :) |
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| 22:32.54 | r0dzilla | where do you have to place the Ospack for the update rom app to work? |
| 22:38.20 | MG_Tak | "You know you're a college student when 'dinner' is rice with some cream and cheese. |
| 22:38.56 | rev|z | pffftt |
| 22:39.00 | rev|z | not e |
| 22:39.03 | rev|z | er e |
| 22:39.05 | rev|z | ME |
| 22:39.08 | rev|z | freaking keyboard |
| 22:39.14 | MG_Tak | rev|z: not you what? :) |
| 22:39.21 | treke | rev|z: buy a laptop :p |
| 22:39.25 | rev|z | my dinner was mashed potatos, corn and chicken, all mixed together |
| 22:39.39 | MG_Tak | rev|z: I can't afford the chicken right now. :> |
| 22:39.42 | rev|z | treke: nah, i' using the nicer keyboard, a pockettop... but the m key wasn't outputting the letter |
| 22:39.54 | rev|z | i don't usually buy much meat, it is kind of spendy |
| 22:40.06 | rev|z | especially at the co-op i shop at |
| 22:40.11 | rev|z | all organic |
| 22:40.16 | rev|z | but this chicken wasn't organic |
| 22:40.19 | rev|z | or free range |
| 22:40.27 | rev|z | and my dinner was left overs |
| 22:40.37 | rev|z | bought a rotissery chicken for my gf last night |
| 22:40.58 | rev|z | ahh |
| 22:41.07 | rev|z | never had korean food |
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| 22:43.18 | r0dzilla | how do I get hancom office and jeode in 3.10 rom? |
| 22:49.19 | rev|z | rod |
| 22:49.21 | rev|z | it comes with it |
| 22:49.23 | rev|z | er |
| 22:49.24 | rev|z | i mean |
| 22:49.26 | rev|z | you isntall it |
| 22:49.29 | rev|z | from the apps.zip |
| 22:51.25 | r0dzilla | is it in the main rom file |
| 22:51.40 | r0dzilla | does it unzip along with ospack or is it another download? |
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| 22:53.00 | r0dzilla | ah, I think I got it now |
| 22:53.05 | r0dzilla | first download I had only had ospack |
| 22:53.12 | r0dzilla | but this one is supposed to have everything.. |
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| 23:00.25 | MG_Tak | does SDK 1.5 expect gcc 2.95 as compiler, could that make a difference? |
| 23:00.38 | rev|z | yarr |
| 23:00.38 | rev|z | dunno |
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| 23:04.35 | MG_Tak | rev|z: I'm going to give it a try, see what happens. |
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| 23:29.15 | sig_bsd | is there anyway I can update my ROM with a SD card? |
| 23:29.18 | sig_bsd | I don't have a CF card |
| 23:30.42 | MG_Tak | rev|z: you there? |
| 23:31.03 | treke | sig_bsd: not if you have a 5x00 |
| 23:31.03 | TCMAN | sig_bsd you can buy sd->cf converter :) |
| 23:31.13 | sig_bsd | hmm |
| 23:31.15 | sig_bsd | this blows |
| 23:31.22 | sig_bsd | I don't have a windows machine to update it with then |
| 23:31.30 | treke | cf cards are relativly inexpensive |
| 23:31.35 | MG_Tak | rev|z: I tried compiling with gcc 2.95, works like a charm |
| 23:31.44 | treke | MG_Tak: ha |
| 23:31.46 | sig_bsd | treke: you use openzaurus? |
| 23:31.52 | treke | sig_bsd: no |
| 23:32.16 | treke | MG_Tak: qtopia apps need to be compiled with gcc 2.95 unless you did your own custom rom based on 3.x |
| 23:33.07 | sig_bsd | is there a way to go to OZ without a CF card? |
| 23:33.13 | treke | sig_bsd: nope |
| 23:33.18 | sig_bsd | damn |
| 23:33.20 | sig_bsd | heh |
| 23:33.29 | sig_bsd | this stinks |
| 23:34.12 | treke | sig_bsd: you only need a 32mb card, so it shouldnt be more than 20 dollars |
| 23:34.31 | imk | neat, theyre up to 4.9-prerelease |
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| 23:37.44 | sig | treke: more money than I have atm |
| 23:38.30 | imk | a homeless man can afford a 32mb cf card |
| 23:38.57 | sig | hah |
| 23:41.30 | treke | he might have problems getting a Zaurus though |
| 23:42.01 | imk | oh, i missed that part |
| 23:42.23 | treke | yeah. no one ever things about the poor homeless persons access to a zaurus |
| 23:42.55 | VampireZIM | if i was homeless i would own a C760 |
| 23:43.26 | MG_Tak | treke: I must've missed that part of the tutorial. |
| 23:43.54 | treke | MG_Tak: It probably isnt in the tutorial since it isnt relevent to learning to program for qt |
| 23:44.05 | MG_Tak | treke: I meant the Zaurus dev tutorial. |
| 23:45.22 | VampireZIM | anyone know perl well? |
| 23:45.27 | VampireZIM | i need a script |
| 23:47.14 | imk | VampireZIM: to do what? |
| 23:47.59 | VampireZIM | a script, if your interested, msg me you email, i will send the description of what i need |
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