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00:27.25GabeWanyone know if the sandisk compact flash wifi+128Mb works with the zaurus SL5500
00:27.27GabeW?
00:36.09VampireZIMwhy wouldnt it?
00:36.16VampireZIMoh, the combo
00:36.19VampireZIMnot sure, sorry
00:37.35GabeWwell, its not working for me right now ;-)
00:37.45GabeWnot showing up as a 802.11 cf or a memory cf
00:37.58VampireZIMhmm, probably need drivers
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00:39.14GabeWwell, I'll return it for now and just get a cf memory card
00:39.23TheMasterMind1check google
00:39.25TheMasterMind1see if it works in linux
00:39.33TheMasterMind1latest pcmcia-cs or something might support it
00:39.42GabeWheh
00:39.46TheMasterMind1if it works in linux, it can be made to work on the zaurus
00:39.50GabeWthey don't claim it works in linux
00:39.56TheMasterMind1they dont' claim anything
00:39.58GabeWand I"m not feeling like being on the bleeding edge
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00:40.03TheMasterMind1ok whatever
00:40.06GabeWi need to upgrade the rom
00:40.16GabeWso I need a CF card more than I need another 802.11 cf card
00:40.24GabeWjust thought it woudl be nice
00:40.41GabeWI can always get it later when its cheaper and work "out of the box" with the zaurus ;-)
00:40.49GabeWthx
00:41.05GabeWi made sure I could return it
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01:21.38MG_TakUmm.. anyonegood with bash?
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02:01.31MG_Takhi munky
02:01.52offroadgeekhello all
02:02.03MG_Takhi offroadgeek
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02:02.25offroadgeekanyone familiar with building a custom rom?
02:03.34offroadgeekwell then.. I suppose I'll just have to throw my Z out the window...
02:04.01MG_TakThat sounds like a good idea, but how bout you give me your address before you do that..?
02:05.07W8TVIoffroadgeek: send it to me :)
02:05.17offroadgeeklol
02:05.19W8TVII'm in need of a zaurus
02:05.57W8TVII'll even pay shipping :)
02:06.02offroadgeekreally?  we'll I actually have a 5000d that I will be (somehow) giving away on the ZUG site
02:06.28W8TVIcool
02:06.53W8TVIoffroadgeek: you didn't hear about my power misshap with my zaurus?
02:07.08offroadgeekyeah... spencer was kind enough to send me one
02:08.10W8TVIthe fuse blew on my my car power adapter... messed something up in the charging/power circuit
02:08.20W8TVIof my zaurus
02:08.37offroadgeekyeah I saw that thread in the devnet forums... that really sucks
02:08.58W8TVII posted that there?
02:09.08W8TVII don't remember doing that...lol
02:09.17offroadgeekmaybe it was the externe forums?  I can't keep them all straight
02:09.46W8TVInot that I think of it... I do kinda remember posting something about it on a fourum
02:09.48W8TVIlol
02:12.16W8TVIbrb
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02:18.12W8TVIBACK!
02:18.14W8TVI:P
02:19.26MG_Takyay
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03:02.25edwardamAnyone using the TKc Rom?
03:02.28edwardamOn a 5600 ?
03:03.39edwardamDo you have problems running the System Info application?
03:04.19MG_Takno, but I have the regular rom, so I don't know if that tells you anything useful.
03:04.49edwardamOh ... I took 'shaked his head.' to mean ... yes. ;-)
03:05.05MG_Tak:)
03:05.06MG_Taknight
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03:36.22VampireZIMwhen is labor day?
03:36.28W8TVIthe 1st
03:36.34VampireZIMoh
03:36.40VampireZIMis that monday?
03:36.57W8TVInot this monday, but the next
03:37.04VampireZIMtahnks
03:37.44W8TVIyoru welocme
03:37.52VampireZIM:P
03:38.16W8TVIheh
03:40.19W8TVIwe need more scary female linux geeks
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03:47.05W8TVIright VampireZIM?
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03:56.56imkno
03:56.57imkwe dont
03:57.54W8TVIn?
03:57.57W8TVIno?
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03:58.53W8TVIwhy not?
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03:59.22W8TVIwb VampireZIM
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03:59.42VampireZIMhy
03:59.46Cameronhello there
03:59.53W8TVIhey
04:00.14CameronVampireZIM: You realize you (I think accidentally) sent a bell along with the Zaurus to me?
04:00.42Camerona silver bell -- it was odd finding it in the bottom of the box!
04:00.47Cameronheh
04:00.51Cameronhello, W8TVI
04:01.04CameronW8TVI: I forget: which Zaurus do you have?
04:01.38W8TVIsl-5500
04:01.47W8TVIbroken...
04:01.55W8TVIcharging circiut shot
04:02.07Cameronah, that's right -- you're the one :(
04:02.11W8TVIand another broken in the mail on the way here
04:02.16Cameroneek
04:02.17Cameronbad luck
04:02.18W8TVIran over by a car
04:02.25W8TVIgot ti for $10
04:02.46W8TVIsounds like the main board is still ok
04:03.26offroadgeekwell that sounds positive for you then!
04:03.43W8TVIthe screen is cruched
04:03.46W8TVIcrushed
04:03.57Cameronwow
04:04.00W8TVIbut the corner lights up when you try to turn it on
04:04.00Cameronrun over by a car?
04:04.02W8TVIyep
04:04.05Cameronhow did that happen again?
04:04.07offroadgeekbut you don't need that... right?
04:04.10Cameronlol
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04:04.16W8TVIit was in her purse
04:04.26CameronVampireZIM: Did you see what I said?
04:04.27W8TVII got a good screen
04:06.03W8TVIbut she says the top of the pda looks bent slitely
04:06.11W8TVIso dont know
04:06.17Cameronhm
04:06.31W8TVII'm hopping is ok, but I'm not counting on it
04:07.36Cameron:-\
04:13.43W8TVII need to get some one to buy a zaurus for me :P
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04:39.22offroadgeekwell, register with the ZUG site, and keep checking it for details on how you could win the 5000d
04:39.54offroadgeekand a few accessories (serial cable, spare cradle)
04:44.55W8TVIheh
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06:30.13treke|ho1ehmmm. anyone know if a c7x0 ac adapter for japan needs a converter for usage in the US?
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06:34.49W8TVItreke|ho1e, no
06:34.54W8TVIit doesn't need it
06:35.10W8TVIwell... it shouldnt
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07:41.12TCMANhi
07:42.08W8TVInight
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08:14.23VampireZIMhy
08:14.54VampireZIMhow is the weather in denmark?
08:17.24TCMANVampireZIM: not sleeping yet ?
08:17.40VampireZIMhehe
08:17.45VampireZIMare you serious
08:17.55VampireZIMi usually stay up till the sun comes up
08:18.07VampireZIMbut tonight, i have been clubin, drunk is fun. :D
08:19.05TCMANVampireZIM: hehe
08:19.09VampireZIMmunchin on chips and salsa
08:19.14VampireZIMreally good salsa too
08:19.23TCMANi am working a bit and playing with tiny rc car
08:19.37VampireZIMhehe, i have some of those
08:19.48VampireZIMthey work well in my warehouse, concrete floor
08:19.59TCMANVampireZIM: i had one bitcharg chinese clone but it sucks
08:20.10VampireZIMbut i really shouldnt drink and drive, so they are staying put away
08:20.14TCMANVampireZIM: today i got superslicks
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08:20.24TCMANVampireZIM: its a bit bigger
08:20.44VampireZIMheh, i have slicks and different engines and gears and stuff
08:20.52mithroChipX86|Coding: so - which sould i use (this channel is a bit quieter)
08:21.03ChipX86|Codingwhich what?
08:21.15TCMANVampireZIM: oh cool
08:21.30TCMANi think i need better engine and tires for driving on the carpet
08:21.42mithroChipX86|Coding: CVS or released?
08:21.43VampireZIMyea
08:21.50TCMANVampireZIM: where did you get your accessories ?
08:21.51VampireZIMcarpet sux for mini rc
08:21.56ChipX86|Codingmithro: released
08:21.59ChipX86|Codingit won't even build against cvs
08:22.03VampireZIMradio shack
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08:22.06mithrookay
08:22.12TCMANyeah, but they are too fast on floor and dont turn too well
08:22.23TCMANespecially bitcharg suck at turning
08:22.43TCMANVampireZIM: i'll have to go there
08:22.51TCMANVampireZIM: i got mine at toysrus
08:22.53VampireZIMthey have lots of stuff
08:23.17TCMANVampireZIM: but they had only red and black mustangs, and i dont like mustangs that much
08:23.30VampireZIMheh
08:23.38VampireZIMi have several bodies
08:23.41TCMANVampireZIM: do the have anu light kits?
08:23.45VampireZIMbut i use the red mustang
08:23.51TCMANVampireZIM: do they have camaro ? :)
08:23.58CAMCAMSuKoShi: hello !
08:24.07VampireZIMi dont know, i bought my cars a year ago, i havent bought anything since
08:24.21CAMCAMSuKoShi: Réveillé de bon matin ?
08:24.52mithroChipX86|Coding: where do i get libgaim from?
08:25.05ChipX86|Codingit's gaim 0.67 with the patch on qpe-gaim's file release page
08:25.43mithrookay - as i though - just wanted to check
08:25.44TCMANVampireZIM: i see online they have zipzaps which is another bitcharg clone
08:26.02VampireZIMyea, i have a bitcharge also, and two zipzaps
08:26.52TCMANVampireZIM: oh, they have corvette
08:27.06TCMAN1:43 scale, cool
08:27.22VampireZIMfuck, i am out of salsa
08:27.30mithroChipX86|Coding: what arguments do you use with the patch? it doesn't seem to find a few files
08:27.36ChipX86|Codingpatch -p0
08:27.43ChipX86|Codingit's possible that it doesn't
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08:29.42mithroit doesn't like the protocols/trepia stuff
08:29.56ChipX86|Codingdoesn't surprise me
08:30.12mithrothey don't exist in the released version of gaim
08:30.17ChipX86|Codingyep
08:30.25ChipX86|Codingit must be applied against the cvs snapshot of 0.67, actually
08:35.37mithroChipX86|Coding: why do you have libgaim-arm libgaim-x86 and release-libgaim-arm
08:35.50ChipX86|Codingdevelopment and snapshot trees
08:36.11ChipX86|Codingfor x86 and arm
08:36.28mithrowhy are they in the same diff?
08:36.48ChipX86|Codingprobably something screwy with how I generated it
08:36.53ChipX86|Codingdoesn't matter.. source is the same
08:37.03ChipX86|Codingbut again, this is why I recommend people don't build it until we release libgaim
08:37.08mithroin all 3?
08:37.18ChipX86|Codingyes
08:37.22ChipX86|Codingjust different architectures
08:37.28ChipX86|Codingand different prefixes
08:37.32mithrookay
08:38.03mithrodo you think you could generate a patch for just one of the trees?
08:38.11ChipX86|Codingnot tonight
08:38.16ChipX86|Codingall those trees are up against cvs now anyway
08:38.28ChipX86|Codingand that won't work
08:41.20mithroonce the patch is applied how do i get it to build libgaim - same way as gaim?
08:41.49ChipX86|Codingyeah, just be careful where you install
08:41.54ChipX86|Codingthat libgaim's prpls are not compatible with gaim's
08:42.20mithrookay
08:42.39mithroi've cleaned up your patch so it now applies correctly - do you want a copy?
08:42.53ChipX86|Codingnope
08:42.58ChipX86|Codingtoo much has changed. It'll be useless
08:43.18ChipX86|Codingqpe-gaim really was an experiment. I didn't plan on releasing it so early until people started taking such an interest
08:43.23ChipX86|Codingbut the libgaim really is not ready for use
08:43.36ChipX86|Codingand we don't want third parties hacking against it yet, because so much of it is going to change
08:44.26mithroChipX86|Coding: you created the ipkgs by hand for libgaim?
08:44.35ChipX86|CodingI have a little script
08:44.52mithrocould i have a copy? of is it distributed with qpe-gaim ?
08:45.05ChipX86|Codinghttp://www.chipx86.com/mkipk.sh
08:46.09mithrohrm - no such file
08:46.20ChipX86|Codinghmm
08:46.31ChipX86|Codingbah
08:46.40ChipX86|Codingtry this instead
08:46.45ChipX86|Codinghttp://www.chipx86.com/mkipk.txt
08:47.01mithrobetter
08:47.55mithrothanks - i should have this building out of buildroot sometime today
08:48.28ChipX86|Codingcool
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09:11.20mithroChipX86|Coding: does libgaim depend on anything?
09:11.34ChipX86|Codingglib2
09:11.48ChipX86|Codinggconv-modules, whatever they're named there
09:12.00ChipX86|Codingthe /usr/lib/gconv/ files are very much required
09:14.30mithroyou wouldn't happen to know where gconv-modules comes from?
09:14.57ChipX86|Codingglibc
09:16.28mithrothanks
09:30.56TCMANgood night
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10:17.35Aimioanyone in?
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12:39.42heiko_hi
12:39.53MG_Takhi
12:41.27Aimiohi
12:41.39AimioKnow of a way to view my cd collection on Z?
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13:10.59XavierXeonAimio: what form is your cd collection in ?
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17:47.20asterickAre there any descent, handwritting note taking apps that are free?
17:49.03treke|ho1eno
17:49.16treke|ho1ethere also arent any decent handwriting note apps that arent free
17:49.42phoen][xuh that was evil :)
17:49.49asterickdrat.
17:50.09asterickIt amazes me that with a horrid as it can be to use the thumbboard, there are not any real note taking apps.
17:50.22asterickIt's too tedious to use the pen input too.
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18:03.16MG_Takthough not decent enough to take notes, admitedly
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18:04.59asterickI just want something I can sketch and type on.
18:05.04asterickNothing major.
18:05.15treke|ho1ethere isnt anything
18:05.21asterickI've determined this.
18:06.19fliplaptaking notes on a computer of any kind is just useless
18:06.40treke|ho1efliplap: it is?
18:06.42asterickI don't really want to take notes, but do a running concept thing.
18:06.48fliplapthere just isn't on that can keep up with me
18:06.51asterickJournals are kinda nice.
18:07.32asterickI wonder when the C-400 style PDAs are going to make it to the US..
18:07.36treke|ho1efliplap: ah. keeps up with me fine
18:07.36fliplapeven tablets are annoying since they get confused when my hand touchs the screen
18:07.51treke|ho1easterick: Outside of imports, they probably wont
18:08.03fliplaptreke|ho1e: maybe for taking notes in meets and stuff, but for classes it just doesnt do it for me
18:08.08fliplapmeetings rather
18:08.29treke|ho1eyeah, I did it for classes also. on my palm
18:09.36treke|ho1edidnt work as well for math note though
18:10.46fliplapnod
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18:26.20radsaqMG_Tak, /hilight -full Tak
18:29.17MG_Takradsaq: that'd help
18:29.18MG_Tak:)
18:31.41MG_Takradsaq: thanks :)
18:33.17radsaqMG_Tak, welcome
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20:23.23po8Can anyone help with installing my 5500 off CF?  (I should probably look in #openzaurus as well...)
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20:23.59phoen][xTCMAN!
20:24.00TCMANhi
20:24.27treke|ho1ehey TCMAN
20:28.14phoen][xTCMAN: did you receive that mail about my strange agp errors?
20:32.53TCMANphoen][x: yes
20:33.11TCMANphoen][x: i forwarded it couple day ago to andreas in starnberg
20:33.21phoen][xTCMAN: i upgraded to 3.2.4 (its on the mirrors now) and ran into the same errors
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20:35.18TCMANphoen][x: i see, well, maybe they'll fix it :)
20:36.01phoen][xTCMAN: just wanted to tell you
20:36.22phoen][xcouldve been that it was already fixed in 3.2.4
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20:54.46George-moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
20:55.18TCMANGeorge-: moo moo
20:56.31George-TCMAN: die bastard
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20:58.54TCMANi wonder if ibot will listen to me
20:58.59TCMAN!lart George-
20:59.05George-~lart TCMAN
20:59.16George-~lart TCMAN
20:59.21TCMAN~lart George-
20:59.24TCMANhehe
20:59.25George-~lart TCMAN
20:59.26TCMANyay
20:59.36George-~lart TCMAN
20:59.41TCMANGeorge-: hows it going
20:59.45George-~lart TCMAN
21:00.12George-TCMAN: well, yesterday had to go out and buy a blazer for my school
21:00.14TCMAN/dev/urandom is better than britney :)
21:00.17George-TCMAN: "Smart Casual" heh
21:00.40TCMANGeorge-: bleeee, do you have to wear uniform to school ?
21:01.02George-TCMAN: uh, yeh
21:01.08George-TCMAN: I'm at private school
21:01.24George-bit expensive though
21:01.27TCMANGeorge-: we had to wear blue blazers in my elementary school
21:01.39TCMANGeorge-: it was governement run though :)))
21:01.45George-we don't wear blazers
21:02.23TCMANGeorge-: but we needed the blazers and a school shield/sign on the side
21:02.32George-hah, they suck
21:02.56George-it's gonna be really cool this coming year though.. I get my own room with a network connection
21:02.57George-:D
21:03.20TCMANGeorge-: cool
21:03.26TCMANGeorge-: how old are you ?
21:03.29George-15
21:03.50TCMANGeorge-: hehe, i am twice your age :)
21:04.14George-that's nothing to be proud of
21:04.24George-especially considering you're the guy that sweeps the floors at ATI
21:04.25George-:P
21:04.43TCMANGeorge-: i am maintainer of flat surfaces :)
21:05.00George-you don't have a wife then :P
21:05.11TCMANGeorge-: i do
21:05.14George-ok, sick jokes aside.
21:06.28MG_TakTCMAN: old fart
21:07.13TCMANMG_Tak: well, mentally i am maybe 8 :)
21:07.37George-TCMAN: yeh, you're intelligence sorta gave that away :D
21:08.30MG_TakTCMAN: that can only make you immature, in the best case, though.. :)
21:08.32TCMANGeorge-: well, there are no problems with my IQ, its the immaturity :) i am quite intelligent for a 8yr boy :))))
21:08.47George-TCMAN: lies!
21:09.46TCMANGeorge-: hehe
21:10.00George-anyway
21:10.07George-blazers with the school logo suck
21:10.07George-:P
21:10.20George-We wear these big blue woolen things at school
21:10.28George-although before the war we used to wear tails
21:10.53TCMANGeorge-: which war ? iraq, falklands or wwii ? :)
21:11.01George-wwii
21:11.01George-:P
21:11.17George-still wear tails on sunday though
21:11.40TCMANGeorge-: you actually didnt exist in falklands war time :)))
21:11.51TCMANGeorge-: tails, you mean like wigs ?
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21:13.39George-TCMAN: no, a tailcoat
21:14.08George-fool
21:14.11TCMANGeorge-: wth is tailcoat ? :))))
21:14.16George-grrr
21:14.23George-you know those things that you wear
21:14.30George-that make you look like a penguin
21:14.36George-er
21:14.39MG_Taknun dress?
21:14.42George-hahahaha
21:14.47George-no.
21:14.56TCMANGeorge-: i get the idea
21:15.31TCMANGeorge-: so is this a conspiracy between schools and psychoanalysts ?
21:16.12George-you obviously have the intelligence of an inebriated newt
21:18.06TCMANi know, its tradition
21:18.28TCMANof british private schools producing slightly crazy people :)
21:19.12George-*gasp*
21:19.22George-I go to the same school that Churchill went to
21:19.24George-you evil sod.
21:19.36MG_TakChurchill was more than slightly crazy.
21:20.50George-how dare you!
21:20.51George-:P
21:21.04TCMANGeorge-: i am just having little fun :) and churchill was crazy :) but he made it into history
21:21.13TCMANwith the most important quote
21:21.18George-ggggggaaaaaaaassssssssppppppp
21:21.22George-you you you.... BASTARD
21:21.48TCMANchurchill to woman: you are ugly, woman: and you are drunk: churchill: but tomorrow i will be sober and you will be still ugly
21:22.42George-hahaha
21:22.44George-I love that quote
21:22.49MG_Takcan ld tell which current path it would look to?
21:22.53George-actually, it's"
21:22.59George-"Winston! You're drunk!"
21:23.16George-"Yes, and you're ugly. And in the morning, I will be sober, and you will still be ugly"
21:23.31TCMANGeorge-: oh well
21:24.04TCMANGeorge-: but i suspect he wasnt drunk, because he noticed she is ugly :)))
21:24.21George-mwahaha
21:24.25George-either that, or she wasn't ugly
21:24.26George-:P
21:24.28treke|ho1ehe probably also wasnt sober the next morning
21:24.31MG_TakMaybe just not drunk enough.
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21:32.15MG_Takanyone here code with the Sharp provided environment?
21:32.55George-sharp don't provide an SDK
21:33.38MG_TakGeorge-: well, the one they give instructions for
21:33.49George`ZzZzZzMG_Tak: I used to use the Trolltech SDK...
21:34.10George`ZzZzZzmainly because I have a commercial license for it
21:34.18George`ZzZzZz(that trolltech competiton rocked!)
21:35.00George`ZzZzZzit's the same thing.
21:35.20George`ZzZzZzanyway, g'night
21:35.22George`ZzZzZzI'm tired
21:35.23MG_Taktrying to set it up, but when I "switch" to arm environment, nothing works because it tries to load the libraries in /opt/Qtopia/sharp/lib
21:35.33MG_Takwhich it says is invalid
21:35.35MG_TakGeorge`ZzZzZz: night
21:36.27TCMANGeorge`ZzZzZz: good night
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22:01.14markTwiun: i just saw the LOTR two towers DVD :)
22:07.20treke|ho1ehmmm. anyone bought a third party stylus that fits well in the c7x0?
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22:18.06MG_Takhrm, what's it mean when you get /opt/Qtopia/sharp/lib/libqpe.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation ?
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23:12.10CameronAnyone around here who might be able to help me get Opie to start on my C700 under OpenZaurus?
23:42.07MG_TakIs there a devel-related zaurus channel?
23:42.14MG_Taklike.. #zaurus-dev or something?
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