| 00:01.44 | kryhme | is anyone succesfully using mailit on oz 3.2 ... all i want is a yes or no.. please |
| 00:01.55 | kryhme | i just want to know if i'm wasting my time |
| 00:11.50 | stigger | no but have used qt mail in the past I think I heard there |
| 00:12.16 | stigger | was a conflict with the setigs |
| 00:12.16 | kryhme | thx for the input |
| 00:12.23 | kryhme | what os |
| 00:12.49 | stigger | OZ 3.2 3.3.1 |
| 00:13.11 | kryhme | what do you use now for e-mail... anything? |
| 00:13.28 | stigger | qtmail ripped |
| 00:13.59 | stigger | still waiting for a working imap client |
| 00:14.39 | kryhme | opie-mail2 works fine for me, but i have no need for imap |
| 00:15.45 | stigger | opie-mail 2 can't read m servers folder list and I can't find a offline mode |
| 00:15.56 | kryhme | ah |
| 00:17.18 | treke|home | opie mail2 barely works |
| 00:17.33 | kryhme | ok, i guess what i meant by works is that it doesn't crash on me |
| 00:17.49 | kryhme | like MailIt |
| 00:29.41 | kryhme | is qtopia desktop free, and is there somewhere i can d/l it.. i lost my cds a long long time ago |
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| 00:37.44 | stigger | yeah you can download all that stuf off the sharp commuity site |
| 00:38.27 | jroad | hi all this is my first time to channel |
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| 01:35.51 | W8TVI | m00 rev! |
| 01:36.00 | absentia | re |
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| 01:45.39 | absentia | spence? |
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| 03:13.22 | br33zy | anybody know a zaurus site that lists all the models & specs? |
| 03:13.30 | br33zy | I get kinda confused with everything thats out there atm |
| 03:13.50 | effy-kun | try www.sharp.co.jp |
| 03:13.53 | effy-kun | ;) |
| 03:14.00 | br33zy | is that in japenese? |
| 03:14.04 | br33zy | i'll see for myself :-P |
| 03:14.36 | br33zy | oh shit... I'm not gonna go through one of those huge sharp sites |
| 03:15.14 | subdue | myzaurus.com and sharpworld announcement |
| 03:15.22 | effy-kun | http://www.sharp.co.jp/products/menu/pc_mobile/zaurus/index.html |
| 03:15.58 | br33zy | alright... |
| 03:16.00 | br33zy | thnx everyone |
| 03:16.43 | br33zy | theres so fucking many |
| 03:16.47 | br33zy | lol |
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| 03:17.06 | treke|home | yes. 7 is a lot isnt it |
| 03:19.05 | Taekero | hrm, any possible known method to backup the 5600's bzImage and initrd? or a copy of 1.0 rom somewhere? (exactly as on the 5600?) |
| 03:20.46 | br33zy | treke|home: are the apps compatible on all? the high-level ones i mean... not the drivers or anything like that |
| 03:21.29 | treke|home | yes |
| 03:21.42 | br33zy | treke|home: alright, thanks for bearing with me :-) |
| 03:21.51 | treke|home | Any of the zaurus running linux are compatible |
| 03:21.57 | treke|home | there are a lot of older zaurures |
| 03:22.21 | treke|home | Most of the ones on the website are not compatible |
| 03:22.51 | treke|home | the compatible ones are the A-300, B500, C700, C750, C760, SL-5500, Sl-5000D, and the SL-5600 |
| 03:23.18 | br33zy | damn. |
| 03:23.24 | br33zy | I have the oldest :-P |
| 03:23.30 | treke|home | which is that? |
| 03:23.35 | br33zy | 5000D |
| 03:23.37 | br33zy | i believe |
| 03:23.52 | treke|home | the a-300 was a really slick little device |
| 03:24.01 | br33zy | was? |
| 03:24.07 | treke|home | yes |
| 03:25.19 | treke|home | it's an old model |
| 03:43.07 | Taekero | i'll take that as a no :\ |
| 03:43.10 | Taekero | heh |
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| 03:45.38 | fusion94 | anyone using tkcplayer for audio ? |
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| 04:27.07 | br33zy | anybody know an alright mail client for the zaurus? |
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| 04:28.02 | treke|home | one does not exist |
| 04:28.48 | Pendalar | mail-it works pretty good on opie1 |
| 04:28.59 | br33zy | is that on the zaursezone? |
| 04:29.11 | br33zy | zaurus* |
| 04:29.22 | Pendalar | it's in the oz feed I think |
| 04:29.28 | Pendalar | if not surely it's on zsi maybe |
| 04:29.28 | br33zy | alright |
| 04:31.07 | br33zy | how can i get to that feed?? |
| 04:31.21 | br33zy | i mean |
| 04:31.23 | br33zy | wahts hte url for it? |
| 04:31.28 | Taekero | http://zsi2.stonekeep.com/ |
| 04:31.43 | Pendalar | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/feed/ |
| 04:31.57 | Taekero | ... or.. yeah |
| 04:31.59 | Taekero | heh |
| 04:32.09 | br33zy | unstable? |
| 04:32.14 | br33zy | should i be using unstable or stable? |
| 04:32.18 | treke|home | stable |
| 04:33.00 | br33zy | ok |
| 04:33.17 | Pendalar | in general unstable packages aren't that broken in my experience |
| 04:33.31 | Pendalar | very few times did I have to revert to a stable or testing feed |
| 04:33.40 | treke|home | Pendalar: You would be very wrong |
| 04:33.49 | treke|home | Pendalar: It isnt uncommon for things to break horribly |
| 04:33.55 | Pendalar | but it's like anything .. beta or stable, ymmv |
| 04:34.03 | Pendalar | so far I've been lucky then |
| 04:34.11 | treke|home | In some cases it is safe to use testing |
| 04:34.15 | treke|home | that isn't the case now |
| 04:34.30 | Pendalar | if something hasn't worked in unstable, it's generally because I was to lazy to look up a webpage and see what the real dependancies were |
| 04:34.42 | br33zy | anyboyd know the name for the gui for kismet/ |
| 04:34.43 | br33zy | ? |
| 04:35.29 | treke|home | Pendalar: When you update every other day you start to see what happens |
| 04:36.19 | W8TVI | br33zy, http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=226 |
| 04:36.30 | W8TVI | its called Kismet |
| 04:36.32 | W8TVI | :p |
| 04:36.32 | Taekero | kismet-qte |
| 04:36.37 | br33zy | ok |
| 04:36.52 | br33zy | can't find it on any feed |
| 04:36.55 | br33zy | is it ona feed? |
| 04:37.06 | Pendalar | heh if I update it every day I most certainly break ipkg and can do no more |
| 04:37.22 | W8TVI | dont think so |
| 04:37.47 | br33zy | i'll just downlaod it to my zaurus |
| 04:40.50 | br33zy | wtf |
| 04:40.52 | br33zy | in the AQPkg |
| 04:40.56 | br33zy | when i clikc download package |
| 04:41.00 | br33zy | and hten ok, it just reloads the package lists |
| 04:41.02 | br33zy | nothing esle |
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| 04:42.31 | br33zy | oooo thats kelw |
| 04:42.34 | br33zy | i have a shell |
| 04:42.35 | br33zy | hehehehe |
| 04:47.50 | br33zy | heheheheh thats kewl now my zaurus is secure |
| 04:49.47 | br33zy | heheheheh thats kewl now my zaurus is secure |
| 04:50.28 | br33zy | has airsnort been ported to the zaurus yet? |
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| 05:00.59 | ljp | try wellenreider |
| 05:02.12 | br33zy | whats that? |
| 05:02.24 | ljp | wifi sniffer in opie |
| 05:02.32 | br33zy | hmmm |
| 05:02.35 | br33zy | on any feeds? |
| 05:02.53 | ljp | should be in a special feed for opie app for sharp roms |
| 05:02.53 | br33zy | ill check |
| 05:03.18 | br33zy | do oyu by any chance know of one? |
| 05:11.25 | br33zy | hey guys |
| 05:11.29 | br33zy | I want to run solun |
| 05:11.37 | br33zy | which is an astronomy app... but it requires java |
| 05:11.54 | br33zy | i'm using openzaurus 3.2... is there a jvm that can run solun or is there one built in to oz |
| 05:11.55 | br33zy | ? |
| 05:19.22 | cleverdra | br33zy - you can get jeode from www.killefiz.de (through the new sharp ROM's applications tarball) or though the theKompany.rom's application's tarball. |
| 05:20.46 | br33zy | yeah |
| 05:20.49 | br33zy | iw as just looking for jeode |
| 05:20.50 | br33zy | :-) |
| 05:21.04 | br33zy | cleverdra: i can get on it on zsi? |
| 05:21.18 | cleverdra | br3 - didn't I just say that you could? |
| 05:22.00 | br33zy | i wasn't sure |
| 05:22.00 | br33zy | :-) |
| 05:22.03 | cleverdra | br3 - it's in the new Sharp ROM's applications tarball. A seperate tarball of applications that were seperated from the core. |
| 05:22.14 | cleverdra | br3 - for me, www.killefiz.de is synonymous with zsi. |
| 05:23.02 | br33zy | looking |
| 05:23.51 | br33zy | can't seem to find it |
| 05:23.55 | br33zy | is this it? http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1068 |
| 05:26.55 | br33zy | cleverdra: nevermind... i found it :-) |
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| 05:44.21 | br33zy | anybody know what library libsl1.so.1 is? |
| 05:44.25 | br33zy | errrr |
| 05:44.28 | br33zy | libsl.so.1 |
| 05:45.58 | br33zy | jeode complaains it doesn't have it |
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| 07:27.51 | fliplap | back from defcon |
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| 07:31.59 | metal | any neat wardriving experiences there? |
| 07:32.00 | TCMAN | hi |
| 07:33.14 | fliplap | we won our class in the wifi shoot out |
| 07:33.40 | fliplap | did a 5.16 mile 802.11b shoot between two home made wave guide antennas |
| 07:34.56 | fliplap | won a couple shirts, some mugs, a free pass to next year and $500 to best buy |
| 07:36.49 | metal | pretty cool |
| 07:36.58 | metal | what were the antennas made of? |
| 07:38.02 | fliplap | Dinty Moore Beef Stew cans |
| 07:38.42 | fliplap | tho the dude on Tech TV is gonna say hormel chili, but when you see our antenna they're obviously wider than chili cans |
| 07:39.10 | fliplap | i guess we're gonna be on it |
| 07:39.53 | metal | sweet |
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| 08:28.47 | kend-zaur | re |
| 08:30.43 | kend-zaur | anyone home? |
| 08:31.26 | ChipX86 | hi kend-zaur |
| 08:32.23 | kend-zaur | heya! |
| 08:32.34 | kend-zaur | going to lwe? ;) |
| 08:32.38 | ChipX86 | I wish.. |
| 08:32.47 | ChipX86 | I was going to, but kind of forgot, and plans changed a bit |
| 08:35.41 | kend-zaur | ok :) |
| 08:36.29 | ChipX86 | sigh.. I say this every year, but: "I'm going next year." |
| 08:40.26 | kend-zaur | very tired... setup day tomorrow! |
| 08:40.30 | kend-zaur | nite! |
| 08:40.37 | ChipX86 | night. Have fun :) |
| 08:40.45 | kend-zaur | thx! |
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| 08:48.04 | Wintre | IRCing as root is not a good idea |
| 08:48.08 | ChipX86_ | yeah, happens when I'm on my pda |
| 08:48.22 | ChipX86_ | wintre: I know this :) |
| 08:51.24 | Wintre | Good then |
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| 08:57.51 | ChipX86_ | nice and successful test.. one more thing off the todo |
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| 10:11.22 | mithro_ | anyone here have a c7x0 with original rom? |
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| 13:32.53 | kyngel | Okay, question... can the Zaurus use the bottom port for both USB and serial connectivity at the same time? |
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| 13:53.12 | Zxcvb | anyone here? |
| 13:53.57 | kyngel | Yeah. |
| 13:55.55 | Zxcvb | hoping the scummvm 0.4.x zaurus patch still works |
| 13:57.38 | blk-majik | anyone know a guy who ported fbsd airtools to the zaurus? |
| 13:58.10 | blk-majik | i met some dude (who drank john walker for breakfast) at summercon. cant find him now :p |
| 14:02.43 | kyngel | Man... I *still* can't figure out why the Z handles double-precision floats like it does. |
| 14:02.55 | kyngel | I know how it works now, so I can use them... but jeez, who designed that? |
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| 14:11.44 | sashz | evenig |
| 14:12.38 | kyngel | Evening, sashz. |
| 14:13.11 | kyngel | D'you know if the Zaurus can use the bottom port for both USB and serial connectivity at the same time? |
| 14:13.30 | Fare | kyngel: why don't you just try? |
| 14:13.41 | sashz | probably it must |
| 14:13.44 | Fare | don't ask US |
| 14:13.45 | Fare | ask the Z |
| 14:13.56 | sashz | usb and serial must use 2 diff chanels |
| 14:14.25 | sashz | check kernel sources |
| 14:14.35 | kyngel | Fare: because all of our cradles are currently Not Here (tm). |
| 14:15.12 | Fare | well, then Go There (tm), test, and come back to tell us the results |
| 14:16.15 | kyngel | Sure thing. :) |
| 14:18.04 | kyngel | As long as by Go There, you mean wait for There to come Here. |
| 14:20.29 | kyngel | My boss has a cardboard box with 7 cradles and 1 cradles' worth of parts. |
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| 15:26.07 | kyngel | Wow...a 4 gig CF card. |
| 15:26.39 | kyngel | I could probabl fit all of Project Gutenberg onto that thing. :) |
| 15:32.13 | phoen][x | and you could buy a full featured 17" powerbook for the same price |
| 15:33.50 | kyngel | Yeah. :) |
| 15:34.10 | kyngel | Don't look at me, it's less than a month before I get my Thinkpad. That'll be enough computer for me for a while. |
| 15:34.35 | phoen][x | heh |
| 15:35.25 | kyngel | Looking forward to that, obviously. |
| 15:36.09 | phoen][x | i usually prefer workstations over laptops |
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| 15:41.59 | kyngel | Yeah, but it's hard to argue with free. |
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| 17:34.43 | hcarty | Has anyone here tried the Opie 1.0 Sharp ROM ipks? |
| 17:35.16 | rev|lib | nope |
| 17:44.04 | hcarty | I'm trying to see if I can get the Opie ipks working with the Sharp 3.1 or tkc rom and be able to sync with a linux desktop |
| 17:45.29 | uncon | tkc rom? |
| 17:46.09 | sashz | ÛØÚÝÙÙÛÉÄÕ |
| 17:46.14 | sashz | impossible |
| 17:46.27 | sashz | tkc give out only win sync |
| 17:46.38 | sashz | becouse based on 3.10 rom |
| 17:46.43 | sashz | hmm |
| 17:46.59 | hcarty | Yeah, I was hoping that I could find a way using the Opie apps |
| 17:47.00 | sashz | and there problem , may be, because proto kill zaurus user |
| 17:48.37 | sashz | night ppl, good noight sweet dreamz |
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| 17:48.49 | hcarty | The 3.1-based roms all seem very nice, much quicker than others, but the lack of linux sync is a big downside, for me anyway |
| 17:50.01 | uncon | can't you just use rsync? |
| 17:51.05 | hcarty | Yes, but I'd like to be able to use Qtopiadesktop or some other sync mechanism to make the info easily available from the desktop |
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| 17:54.31 | mutexer | does the 3.1 have the Library environment variable set? 3.0 didnt and caused SDL packages to not function |
| 17:55.24 | hcarty | mutexer: I'm not sure. I've used SDL + ScummVM successfully on the 3.1 rom though |
| 17:55.42 | mutexer | did you install the libSDL ipks? |
| 17:55.49 | hcarty | Yes |
| 17:55.55 | mutexer | maybe they did fix it then |
| 18:11.34 | Neo|Work | wonder where the heck warmi is these days |
| 18:11.48 | Neo|Work | mutexer: use rpath? |
| 18:12.00 | Neo|Work | that is what I'm doing on all new builds I'm making and will make |
| 18:12.08 | Neo|Work | that way LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't important anymore |
| 18:14.04 | mutexer | not sure I know what rpath ios |
| 18:14.07 | mutexer | is* |
| 18:17.47 | Neo|Work | hold |
| 18:18.25 | mutexer | originally I didnt use either.. I just need SDL.. and the libSDL packages are the ones that use LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 18:18.31 | Neo|Work | -Wl,-rpath,/opt/Qtopia/lib/eongames/ |
| 18:18.34 | Neo|Work | add that to the link line |
| 18:18.39 | fliplap | i stopped drinkin sunday morning and i think i'm still hung over from defcon |
| 18:18.40 | Neo|Work | well, change the path to something you want |
| 18:18.47 | Neo|Work | that is the same as LD_LIBRARY_PATH but at link time |
| 18:18.59 | Neo|Work | you obviously don't want the path above tho. :P |
| 18:19.02 | mutexer | cool |
| 18:19.10 | Neo|Work | and you can add many if you wish |
| 18:19.25 | jroad | how was defcon? |
| 18:19.26 | Neo|Work | binary specific library load path. :) |
| 18:22.20 | fliplap | jroad: drunken |
| 18:22.48 | jroad | hehe |
| 18:22.52 | fliplap | and lots of fun |
| 18:23.11 | fliplap | i went waaay over budget :-) |
| 18:23.34 | jroad | where did the $ go? |
| 18:23.50 | fliplap | gas/food/room/con/shit |
| 18:23.58 | fliplap | BEER |
| 18:28.12 | Neo|Work | mutexer: the other benefit of rpath vs LD_LIBRARY_PATH is that it works even if the binary is suid |
| 18:28.25 | mutexer | cool |
| 18:28.25 | Neo|Work | something LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't |
| 18:28.30 | mutexer | brb |
| 18:28.37 | Neo|Work | and in the 3.x roms, "run as root" => suid |
| 18:28.39 | Neo|Work | afaik |
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| 19:15.56 | p1tst0p | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.33 | W8TVI | hey chip |
| 19:17.36 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 19:17.43 | W8TVI | I downloaded gaim to my z |
| 19:17.55 | W8TVI | but I haven't installed it yet |
| 19:17.55 | W8TVI | lol |
| 19:17.55 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 19:18.04 | ChipX86 | make sure you have libgaim and gconv-modules or gconv-tiny, and glib2 |
| 19:18.11 | W8TVI | k |
| 19:18.19 | W8TVI | I have libgaim... |
| 19:18.49 | W8TVI | where do I get gconv-mods? |
| 19:18.59 | ChipX86 | it's in the OZ feeds if you use OZ |
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| 19:20.55 | p1tst0p | hi, anyone got any ideas where my network connections have gone ! its totaly empty ;( |
| 19:21.10 | rev|lib | well |
| 19:21.13 | rev|lib | i bet it went on vacation |
| 19:21.15 | rev|lib | afer all |
| 19:21.17 | rev|lib | it deserves it |
| 19:21.23 | p1tst0p | ;) |
| 19:21.53 | p1tst0p | on a serious note... its all dissapeard.. all the network connections that were in there, have gone.. |
| 19:22.02 | rev|lib | can you recreate them? |
| 19:22.05 | rev|lib | or does that not work? |
| 19:22.07 | rev|lib | have you rebooted? |
| 19:22.12 | rev|lib | if rebooting doesn't make them appear |
| 19:22.16 | p1tst0p | when i click add, it says, nothing to add |
| 19:22.17 | rev|lib | then i imagine you will have to recreate them |
| 19:22.29 | rev|lib | do you have a recent backup? |
| 19:22.33 | rev|lib | ahhh, the joys of the zaurus |
| 19:22.37 | p1tst0p | nowp ;( |
| 19:22.38 | p1tst0p | eheh |
| 19:23.08 | p1tst0p | i would re flash.. but, ehe.. i cant ssh back on, to put the files onto the CF ! |
| 19:23.10 | p1tst0p | grr |
| 19:26.44 | p1tst0p | wow, |
| 19:26.53 | p1tst0p | dmessg has some dodgy stuff in |
| 19:27.13 | p1tst0p | netproto_recv: not up ne_dev.state: 1002 |
| 19:27.25 | p1tst0p | netproto_rx_dropped: - 48 3 |
| 19:27.46 | p1tst0p | thats scrolling allover |
| 19:29.52 | p1tst0p | is there a way of doing a reset of OZ, without having to reflash it ? |
| 19:30.51 | rev|lib | well |
| 19:30.54 | rev|lib | what model do you have? |
| 19:30.58 | p1tst0p | 5500 |
| 19:30.59 | rev|lib | you can do a reset, but without reflashing |
| 19:31.08 | rev|lib | it'll keep the rom conmtents, but loose everything in RAM |
| 19:31.25 | rev|lib | that is |
| 19:31.28 | rev|lib | a "hard reset" |
| 19:31.33 | p1tst0p | hows one do that |
| 19:31.39 | rev|lib | as opposed to a "soft reset" (which is a reboot) |
| 19:31.45 | rev|lib | well |
| 19:31.50 | rev|lib | you turn off the battery switch |
| 19:31.54 | rev|lib | open up the back door |
| 19:31.54 | p1tst0p | ai |
| 19:32.06 | rev|lib | and there is a little button within the battery compartment |
| 19:32.09 | rev|lib | HOWEVER |
| 19:32.10 | p1tst0p | ay |
| 19:32.13 | rev|lib | you will loose *everything* |
| 19:32.16 | rev|lib | that isn't built-into the ROM |
| 19:32.23 | p1tst0p | thats fine |
| 19:32.30 | p1tst0p | i just wanna get it back to a clean OZ |
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| 19:33.01 | z | does anyone know how to extract an ipk file on the z |
| 19:33.01 | p1tst0p | like i say, i cant scp the files back on to flash it, cuz i have no network ! |
| 19:33.05 | rev|lib | yeah |
| 19:33.07 | rev|lib | well |
| 19:33.14 | rev|lib | doing this hard reset will get you back to clean OZ |
| 19:33.26 | p1tst0p | ok just hit the button while the door is open ? |
| 19:33.32 | rev|lib | yup |
| 19:33.37 | rev|lib | i can't remember what the button says |
| 19:33.49 | rev|lib | ack |
| 19:33.50 | p1tst0p | then put the dorr back on, and put the switch back |
| 19:33.51 | rev|lib | but IIRC, there it's on the bottom of the battery |
| 19:33.54 | p1tst0p | and power her on |
| 19:33.54 | rev|lib | yup |
| 19:33.59 | rev|lib | and let it boot |
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| 19:34.41 | p1tst0p | the button is called Full Reset |
| 19:34.44 | rev|lib | ahhh k |
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| 19:34.50 | p1tst0p | ok, shes booting back up |
| 19:35.05 | p1tst0p | hmm |
| 19:35.10 | p1tst0p | passcode box came up again |
| 19:35.11 | phoen][x | from a latin point of view, zaurus should be a male |
| 19:35.20 | p1tst0p | ai, from last install |
| 19:35.23 | phoen][x | it's not called zaura, is it? |
| 19:36.06 | p1tst0p | hmm no network still either rev|lib |
| 19:36.11 | rev|lib | ok |
| 19:36.16 | rev|lib | hold the switch in for a second |
| 19:36.17 | rev|lib | and |
| 19:36.23 | rev|lib | ah |
| 19:36.28 | rev|lib | perhaps you have to take out the battery |
| 19:36.33 | rev|lib | so turn off the batt-door switch |
| 19:36.36 | rev|lib | open the batt door |
| 19:36.38 | rev|lib | take out the battery |
| 19:36.42 | rev|lib | hit the button |
| 19:36.50 | rev|lib | replace the battery, door, turn switch back on, and boot |
| 19:37.05 | z | how do i extract an ipk file |
| 19:37.15 | rev|lib | z: in what way? |
| 19:37.19 | rev|lib | what do you want to do with it? |
| 19:37.32 | rev|lib | if you just want to look at it, you can tar xfvz whatever.ipk |
| 19:37.42 | rev|lib | or do yo uwant to install it? |
| 19:39.12 | p1tst0p | hmm its not reseting this ! lol |
| 19:39.19 | p1tst0p | keeps booting back in as it was. |
| 19:39.32 | rev|lib | did you take the battery itself out? |
| 19:39.37 | p1tst0p | yeo |
| 19:39.42 | rev|lib | for how long? |
| 19:39.44 | z | i just want to extract the files from the ipk file |
| 19:39.45 | rev|lib | leave it out for 2 mins |
| 19:39.50 | rev|lib | z: tar xfvz whatever.ipk |
| 19:39.52 | p1tst0p | while pressing the button ? |
| 19:40.11 | z | doesnt like the vz |
| 19:40.20 | rev|lib | p1tst0p: take out the batt. leave the batt out. while it is out, press and hold the Full Reset button for 10 seconds |
| 19:40.40 | p1tst0p | power chord in or out? |
| 19:40.51 | rev|lib | p1tst0p: have you had the power cable plugged in?? |
| 19:40.58 | rev|lib | or do you mean the musical power chord? |
| 19:41.00 | rev|lib | like with a guitar? |
| 19:41.09 | p1tst0p | lol |
| 19:41.10 | rev|lib | z: mv whatever.ipk whatever.tar.gz; gunzip whatever.tar.gz; tar xf whatever.tar |
| 19:41.15 | rev|lib | z: don't know how to use tar eh?: ) |
| 19:42.25 | p1tst0p | i held it for about 20 secs then |
| 19:42.45 | p1tst0p | still looks like its gonna go into OZ as it did |
| 19:42.47 | p1tst0p | yep it has |
| 19:43.10 | rev|lib | is the power cable plugged in? |
| 19:43.20 | p1tst0p | wasnt that time |
| 19:43.29 | rev|lib | well |
| 19:43.32 | rev|lib | check the manual i guess |
| 19:46.35 | p1tst0p | the manual just says press it once.. |
| 19:46.44 | p1tst0p | doesnt mention taking the battery out or anything |
| 19:47.13 | p1tst0p | which frankly isnt working. |
| 19:47.18 | p1tst0p | is it OZ fault ? |
| 19:48.33 | rev|lib | nah |
| 19:48.40 | rev|lib | nothing to do what what's in the ROM |
| 19:48.49 | z | does anyone know how to add a new filetype to the z and associate an icon with the filetype. i know it has something to do with QtPalmtop/etc/mime.types |
| 19:48.55 | p1tst0p | arg.. im so confused |
| 19:49.39 | p1tst0p | any iedas how to get network back then rev.. then i can just reflash it.. |
| 19:50.38 | z | anyone know how to create new file associations |
| 19:52.04 | rev|lib | no clue |
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| 20:07.34 | p1tst0p | Anyone got any ideas how i can get my USB network back ! im stuck ! |
| 20:08.59 | rev|lib | usb too? |
| 20:09.13 | p1tst0p | its all gone dood |
| 20:09.17 | p1tst0p | from Connections |
| 20:10.02 | p1tst0p | as in the USB network connection, from the zaurus Docking Station to the PC. then i can SCP the flash files back on, and start again |
| 20:13.14 | rev|lib | IIRC, usbnet isn't listed in connections |
| 20:13.24 | p1tst0p | it was |
| 20:13.27 | rev|lib | it's not listed in the way a wifi or ethernet card is |
| 20:13.42 | p1tst0p | i had, eth0 | eth1 | usbnet0 ( or somet | and another |
| 20:13.47 | rev|lib | ah |
| 20:13.49 | p1tst0p | ye wlan0 |
| 20:13.53 | p1tst0p | but, there ALL gone |
| 20:13.59 | p1tst0p | im feking confused ;) |
| 20:14.15 | p1tst0p | i dont have a CF card reader/writer you see either ! |
| 20:14.15 | rev|lib | keep popping back in here |
| 20:14.17 | p1tst0p | gets worse |
| 20:14.26 | rev|lib | i bet someone will be able to help you do it manually eventually |
| 20:14.31 | rev|lib | you have terminal installed, right? |
| 20:14.35 | p1tst0p | yep |
| 20:14.40 | p1tst0p | its OpenZaurus |
| 20:14.43 | p1tst0p | its got one on already init |
| 20:15.50 | rev|lib | ok |
| 20:15.52 | rev|lib | how about this |
| 20:15.54 | rev|lib | open the terminal |
| 20:15.58 | rev|lib | when your terminal is open |
| 20:16.03 | rev|lib | type "ifconfig" and hit enter |
| 20:18.02 | p1tst0p | nothing in ifconfig |
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| 20:24.14 | p1tst0p | hmm |
| 20:24.15 | p1tst0p | idea |
| 20:24.20 | p1tst0p | i have a digi cam |
| 20:24.22 | TimRiker | just think, the c7x0 has just the required resolution to implement a Microsoft Bob clone. http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html |
| 20:24.30 | p1tst0p | wonder if i can copy the files on by the digi cam |
| 20:24.40 | rev|lib | tim |
| 20:24.45 | rev|lib | not just any Bob clone |
| 20:24.51 | rev|lib | but Dynapad: the ULTIMATE Bob Upgrade |
| 20:24.55 | p1tst0p | shit, its only a SD cam not CF |
| 20:24.56 | rev|lib | that's what dynapad *IS* |
| 20:25.22 | fliplap | this sucks, i've lost my voice |
| 20:25.43 | fliplap | mostly from yelling "More boobs!" and "I need beer!" at defcon |
| 20:28.27 | TimRiker | dynapad screenshots? |
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| 20:32.20 | rev|lib | well |
| 20:32.31 | rev|lib | there are some mega old screenshots at http://spe.sf.net |
| 20:32.38 | rev|lib | but not representative |
| 20:32.45 | rev|lib | but it's really not like bob |
| 20:32.47 | rev|lib | twas joking |
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| 20:53.42 | icefox | Anyone know where the gcc 2.95 rpm is? |
| 20:53.45 | icefox | for redhat? |
| 20:54.05 | rev|lib | umm |
| 20:54.07 | rev|lib | rpmfind.net |
| 20:54.12 | rev|lib | or something |
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| 20:56.55 | mspencer | hmm...is kergoth around? I was wondering if I could find where the apm patch for finer battery level reporting came from... |
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| 21:07.17 | p1tst0p | sorted rev|lib |
| 21:08.41 | rev|lib | huh? |
| 21:08.47 | rev|lib | fixed? |
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| 21:09.37 | p1tst0p | yup |
| 21:09.51 | p1tst0p | some chap over in #openzaurus found it |
| 21:10.06 | p1tst0p | for some reason my /etc/networks/interfaces file was missing ! |
| 21:10.22 | rev|lib | HA! |
| 21:10.25 | rev|lib | minor propblem |
| 21:10.36 | p1tst0p | all working now |
| 21:10.48 | rev|lib | sweet |
| 21:10.49 | rev|lib | good to hear |
| 21:10.54 | p1tst0p | just installing konqueror |
| 21:11.14 | p1tst0p | but i tryed that before it all died ! as i can only connect thru a proxy |
| 21:11.24 | p1tst0p | darn sattelite |
| 21:11.34 | rev|lib | yarr |
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| 21:15.10 | p1tst0p | hey rev, you use MSN or ICQ proggy on ur Z ? |
| 21:15.27 | rev|lib | nope |
| 21:15.33 | rev|lib | i use AIM through zic though |
| 21:15.53 | p1tst0p | did i see someon earlyer talkinging about using Gaim on there Z |
| 21:16.00 | ChipX86|Coding | p1tst0p: I'll have a release in about a week |
| 21:16.03 | p1tst0p | thats a ICQ/MSN clone init |
| 21:16.08 | ChipX86|Coding | it's more than that |
| 21:16.14 | p1tst0p | hows it going ChipX86 |
| 21:16.15 | ChipX86|Coding | AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, Zephyr, Gadu-Gadu, Trepia, IRC, Napster |
| 21:16.24 | ChipX86|Coding | it's going good |
| 21:16.36 | p1tst0p | sweet |
| 21:17.06 | rev|lib | i don't use GAIM |
| 21:17.11 | p1tst0p | can u recomend a icq/msn proggy to use untill gaim is released |
| 21:17.14 | ChipX86|Coding | Gaim or gaim, not GAIM, please.. legal reasons |
| 21:17.18 | rev|lib | i use the IMIRC bridge and then the zic irc client |
| 21:17.31 | rev|lib | which |
| 21:17.33 | p1tst0p | gaim is good, i use it on my Slack box |
| 21:17.38 | rev|lib | may support MSN or Yahoo or ICQ now |
| 21:17.43 | rev|lib | i use Adium |
| 21:17.45 | rev|lib | on my ibook |
| 21:17.47 | rev|lib | which is nice |
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| 21:24.11 | TCMAN | hi |
| 21:26.06 | rev|lib | yo tc |
| 21:27.16 | SuKoSh| | i've checked the Makefile of the buildroot |
| 21:38.29 | rev|lib | hrmmm |
| 21:38.42 | rev|lib | am i crazy, or was there stuff aside from wifi at www.sharpmobile.com before? |
| 21:38.51 | rev|lib | like cell data card info for the Z? |
| 21:39.01 | treke|laptop | rev|lib: THey were shutting that service down iirc |
| 21:39.04 | rev|lib | ah |
| 21:39.05 | rev|lib | that sucks |
| 21:39.08 | rev|lib | i mean |
| 21:39.12 | rev|lib | i wouldn't have the cash for it now anyway |
| 21:39.20 | rev|lib | i want cell data for my Z damnit |
| 21:39.29 | treke|laptop | the one person I've heard from who bought it never got it to work |
| 21:39.35 | rev|lib | yeah |
| 21:39.40 | rev|lib | good reason for shiutting it down |
| 21:39.41 | rev|lib | we have a city wide cdma2k almost-broadband network |
| 21:39.46 | rev|lib | wish i could use that on my Z |
| 21:39.56 | rev|lib | and that's only $40/month |
| 21:40.00 | rev|lib | or |
| 21:40.06 | rev|lib | i wish i could use the SideKick network on my Z |
| 21:40.11 | rev|lib | only $30/mo |
| 21:40.13 | rev|lib | for unlim data |
| 21:40.20 | treke|laptop | rev|lib: That + a bigger battery would be great |
| 21:40.31 | rev|lib | you can get cards with T-mobile, but i imagine they're WinCE only |
| 21:40.33 | rev|lib | wel |
| 21:40.40 | rev|lib | i have a C760- i have a bigger battery |
| 21:40.50 | treke|laptop | rev|lib: A bigger battery than that :) |
| 21:40.51 | rev|lib | although i have no clue how good it is with wifi or a cellular data system |
| 21:40.53 | rev|lib | yeah |
| 21:40.54 | rev|lib | it'd be nice3 |
| 21:41.15 | rev|lib | i want a 16 hour battery life while on a wireless connection |
| 21:41.19 | rev|lib | for ^^ that reason :) |
| 21:41.24 | rev|lib | i want to webserve from my ass |
| 21:41.27 | rev|lib | all day every day |
| 21:41.34 | treke|laptop | turn off the lcd, and throttle the cpu down to 100mhz |
| 21:41.55 | rev|lib | mmhmm |
| 21:41.57 | rev|lib | tasty |
| 21:42.16 | rev|lib | but i still have no net connection |
| 21:42.21 | treke|laptop | I'd like to have gaim :) |
| 21:42.40 | treke|laptop | gaim and mayday |
| 21:42.48 | rev|lib | i'd be on IRC |
| 21:43.01 | rev|lib | and have Dynapad alert me when i was msg'd |
| 21:43.06 | rev|lib | at my mobile address |
| 21:43.23 | rev|lib | what's mayday? |
| 21:43.27 | rev|lib | gaim, irc, whatever |
| 21:43.34 | rev|lib | any IM-ish system would be fine by me |
| 21:43.38 | treke|laptop | rev|lib: Worklist software for work |
| 21:43.41 | rev|lib | ahh k |
| 21:43.49 | treke|laptop | something written in house |
| 21:43.58 | treke|laptop | with a really really crappy qtopia front end :) |
| 21:43.58 | rev|lib | for the Z? |
| 21:44.00 | rev|lib | ah |
| 21:44.29 | treke|laptop | rev|lib: web based |
| 21:44.33 | rev|lib | ah ok |
| 21:44.52 | treke|laptop | I hacked together a quick xml import/export mechasnism then put together a qtopia front end |
| 21:45.00 | treke|laptop | so on the ipaq it's a native app |
| 21:45.10 | rev|lib | ah cool |
| 21:45.16 | rev|lib | TCMAN: get it yet? |
| 21:45.24 | TCMAN | nope, its on ebay |
| 21:45.25 | rev|lib | hrmmm |
| 21:45.34 | rev|lib | i guess i don't *need* a wireless card for the Z |
| 21:45.34 | TCMAN | i got ups tracking number so far :)))) |
| 21:45.39 | rev|lib | i could get a cell phone + bluetooth |
| 21:45.42 | rev|lib | that'd work |
| 21:45.51 | rev|lib | and batt life may be better that way too |
| 21:46.16 | jroad | tmobile has $30 unlimited data plan |
| 21:46.17 | treke|laptop | I'd hate to see the bill for that |
| 21:46.42 | rev|lib | jroad: yes, i asw that- my friend is getting a SideKick- i wish i could just use a t-mobile CF card, grr |
| 21:46.44 | rev|lib | the sidekick is neat |
| 21:46.47 | rev|lib | but it's not my C760 |
| 21:46.49 | rev|lib | :) |
| 21:47.02 | jroad | yea but you can get BT phone + BT card |
| 21:47.25 | rev|lib | yeah |
| 21:47.30 | rev|lib | but that'd be more money and more stuff |
| 21:47.31 | rev|lib | but an otpion |
| 21:47.32 | treke|laptop | rev|lib: I'm thinking an axim with bluetooth could possibibly be able to do the all day network connection |
| 21:47.34 | rev|lib | one day |
| 21:47.40 | rev|lib | when i have a little more money i may do that |
| 21:47.41 | treke|laptop | rev|lib: at least for the periods I'm away from my desk |
| 21:47.44 | rev|lib | yeah |
| 21:47.50 | rev|lib | how are you liking your axim? |
| 21:48.03 | treke|laptop | rev|lib: I only had it for a day |
| 21:48.09 | rev|lib | thought you'd had it for longer? |
| 21:48.22 | rev|lib | i thought i remember you getting it before i left for europe |
| 21:48.23 | treke|laptop | nah. ended up mailing it out the next afternoon |
| 21:48.47 | rev|lib | ah, why? |
| 21:48.49 | rev|lib | broken? |
| 21:49.13 | treke|laptop | rev|lib: pb was going to look into doing some work on the linux port |
| 21:49.17 | rev|lib | ahhh |
| 21:49.23 | rev|lib | mailing it to him |
| 21:49.24 | rev|lib | k |
| 21:49.26 | rev|lib | remember that now |
| 21:49.57 | treke|laptop | I generally liked the hardware |
| 21:50.06 | treke|laptop | Didnt like the voice record button or stylus |
| 21:50.10 | rev|lib | yeah |
| 21:50.15 | rev|lib | the stylus i got used to |
| 21:50.24 | rev|lib | but the voice record button, ugh |
| 21:50.38 | treke|laptop | If I get one for actual use I'd have to buy a heavier stylus |
| 21:51.02 | rev|lib | yeah |
| 21:51.11 | rev|lib | i wish sharp didn't cheap out on the C7x0 stylus |
| 21:51.17 | rev|lib | the C700 got a part-metal one |
| 21:51.21 | rev|lib | but noooo, i get all plastic |
| 21:51.25 | rev|lib | and i lost it |
| 21:51.27 | rev|lib | which sucks |
| 21:51.27 | jroad | yea the stylus is weak |
| 21:51.31 | rev|lib | (never lost a stylus before ) |
| 21:51.38 | rev|lib | i wonder if the C700 stylus fits in the C760 |
| 21:51.39 | treke|laptop | my favorite stylus is the palm V stylus |
| 21:51.45 | rev|lib | because i'd like to order one to replace it with |
| 21:51.50 | rev|lib | my favorite ithe the Newton MP2100 |
| 21:51.52 | rev|lib | pen-sized |
| 21:51.57 | rev|lib | and brushed aluminum |
| 21:52.03 | rev|lib | not tiny like on the SL-5500 |
| 21:52.05 | rev|lib | and not plastic |
| 21:52.06 | jroad | rev, i think it will |
| 21:52.08 | rev|lib | hrmm |
| 21:52.10 | rev|lib | i should do that |
| 21:52.13 | rev|lib | wonder how much they' d be |
| 21:52.21 | jroad | i was told the 5500 stylus fits too? |
| 21:52.24 | rev|lib | really? |
| 21:52.27 | rev|lib | curious |
| 21:52.34 | rev|lib | not sure about that |
| 21:52.38 | jroad | i dont have 5x00 so i dunno |
| 21:52.40 | rev|lib | anyone have a spare i could test with? |
| 21:54.34 | jroad | someone on externe forum said it would fit |
| 21:54.41 | rev|lib | hmm |
| 21:54.49 | rev|lib | the Palm V styulus is pretty nice |
| 21:54.55 | rev|lib | 'borrowed' one from best buy for use on my Z |
| 21:55.02 | jroad | it fits? |
| 21:55.06 | rev|lib | no |
| 21:55.10 | rev|lib | but it's beter than no stylus |
| 21:55.14 | jroad | oh |
| 21:55.32 | rev|lib | all the other stylii i've seen don't fit - the Zaurus use such timy stylii, they all stick out |
| 21:55.34 | jroad | brett at conics sells a pentopia model |
| 21:55.50 | jroad | its not on site |
| 21:56.11 | rev|lib | yarrr |
| 21:56.15 | rev|lib | do you have a C760? |
| 21:56.17 | treke|laptop | I liked how hefty they were |
| 21:56.22 | jroad | ya |
| 21:56.32 | rev|lib | happened to know how mcuh this pentopia is? |
| 21:56.37 | rev|lib | and does it fit in a C760? |
| 21:56.51 | rev|lib | i wish i could get a little box like this |
| 21:56.51 | rev|lib | http://nokia.com/nokia/0,6771,33176,00.html |
| 21:56.55 | rev|lib | sew it into my backpack |
| 21:57.04 | rev|lib | and have it provide net access via blue tooth to my PDA |
| 21:57.23 | jroad | ok get out ur yen converter: |
| 21:57.42 | jroad | pilot pentopia 3 in 1:1600 yen |
| 21:57.54 | jroad | c700 stylus : 525 yen |
| 21:58.09 | rev|lib | 1600 = $13 |
| 21:58.19 | rev|lib | damn |
| 21:58.21 | rev|lib | 525 yen? |
| 21:58.27 | rev|lib | that's $4 |
| 21:58.30 | jroad | nice |
| 21:58.34 | rev|lib | where do i get a couple for that price?! |
| 21:59.12 | jroad | plus shipping |
| 21:59.39 | jroad | he says 1200 yen for the pdair case plus stylii |
| 21:59.46 | jroad | not sure how much just for stylii |
| 21:59.53 | rev|lib | pdair casE? |
| 22:00.00 | rev|lib | does that fit the C760 too? |
| 22:00.07 | rev|lib | and who is he? |
| 22:00.09 | jroad | yea that is on site |
| 22:00.18 | jroad | you never heard of conics.net? |
| 22:00.20 | rev|lib | yes |
| 22:00.25 | rev|lib | but i thought you were chatting with him or something |
| 22:00.29 | jroad | he = brett |
| 22:00.36 | jroad | no just referencing email he sent me |
| 22:00.48 | rev|lib | i wonder if that case fits in the C760, or if it is supposed to be put in the case in a sleeve or something |
| 22:00.50 | jroad | because i think the 760 stylus blows |
| 22:00.55 | jroad | it fits |
| 22:00.59 | rev|lib | woooot |
| 22:01.00 | jroad | look at pics at his site |
| 22:01.07 | jroad | $50 |
| 22:01.13 | rev|lib | $50? damn |
| 22:01.21 | rev|lib | 1200 yen = $10 |
| 22:01.23 | jroad | he says it only fits with the big battery cover |
| 22:01.31 | jroad | so there is also a 750 model |
| 22:02.03 | rev|lib | ah |
| 22:02.35 | jroad | ok a guy on forum said his pentopia looks like this: |
| 22:02.41 | jroad | http://www.pentopia.com/chameleon.htm#Palm |
| 22:02.48 | jroad | the one for the m500 |
| 22:02.55 | jroad | so maybe those stylus works ok too |
| 22:02.58 | rev|lib | ah |
| 22:05.10 | br33zy | hehe |
| 22:15.56 | mspencer | hmm...on the C700 you're supposed to flash unzipped kernels, not gzipped, right? |
| 22:18.24 | TCMAN | should i buy 256mb sd card or 128mb mmc ? |
| 22:24.10 | jroad | mspencer: i'm new to linux but in the book i'm reading it says not to unzip kernels |
| 22:24.39 | jroad | tcman: all else being equal i would go for 256mb |
| 22:26.37 | rev|lib | why would one go for an MMC over SD? |
| 22:26.42 | rev|lib | i just got 2 free 128 MB SD cards |
| 22:26.48 | rev|lib | but i wish i could've gotten a 256 instead |
| 22:26.50 | rev|lib | but alas |
| 22:26.53 | rev|lib | OfficeMax sucks many dicks |
| 22:26.57 | rev|lib | and 128 MB is the biggest they carry |
| 22:27.37 | rev|lib | and i would've gotten 3 128 MB cards, but they only had 2 |
| 22:27.38 | rev|lib | YAR |
| 22:28.21 | jroad | why not get online |
| 22:28.29 | rev|lib | well |
| 22:28.32 | rev|lib | i wanted a wifi card |
| 22:28.35 | rev|lib | but as i said, officemax sucks |
| 22:28.42 | rev|lib | and they don't have CF wificcards |
| 22:28.44 | rev|lib | only PCMCIA |
| 22:28.57 | jroad | i meant buy the 256 mb SD online |
| 22:29.08 | rev|lib | i had a gift card they said i couldn't use online |
| 22:29.11 | rev|lib | i should've tried to take the merchandise back to best buy first |
| 22:29.13 | jroad | oh |
| 22:29.14 | rev|lib | that was my mistake |
| 22:29.58 | rev|lib | i wish that cute lil remote control for the C7x0 wasn't so expensive |
| 22:30.02 | rev|lib | because it's sure cool |
| 22:30.24 | jroad | i bought it |
| 22:30.28 | rev|lib | yeah? |
| 22:30.28 | rev|lib | neat? |
| 22:30.44 | jroad | but dont really use too much |
| 22:30.47 | jroad | yea its cool |
| 22:30.48 | rev|lib | mmhmm |
| 22:32.29 | jroad | i already have mp3 player |
| 22:32.32 | rev|lib | ahh |
| 22:32.36 | rev|lib | this is mine |
| 22:32.45 | hardwire | greedy |
| 22:32.52 | rev|lib | ? |
| 22:32.56 | rev|lib | only $35 at conics |
| 22:32.57 | rev|lib | not too bad |
| 22:33.29 | jroad | yea i will have to use on road trip |
| 22:34.37 | rev|lib | what kind of mp3 player have you? |
| 22:34.58 | jroad | its nomad 2 mg |
| 22:35.12 | jroad | i has 256 mb + mmc card |
| 22:35.18 | rev|lib | ah |
| 22:35.43 | jroad | its lighter smaller than z obviously |
| 22:36.07 | jroad | but seems to be kinda picky with mp3s |
| 22:36.19 | jroad | meaning it skips past the song sometimes |
| 22:36.48 | rev|lib | annoying |
| 22:37.05 | jroad | rev where did you buy your 760 |
| 22:38.06 | rev|lib | it was obtained through dynamism |
| 22:44.15 | rev|lib | dammmmmn |
| 22:44.24 | rev|lib | all those bluetooth phones are expensive as all get out |
| 22:45.07 | jroad | yes pricey |
| 22:45.39 | rev|lib | alas |
| 22:45.39 | jroad | i was hoping for t608 since i use sprint but who knows if it will ever come out |
| 22:45.47 | rev|lib | it'd be easier if i could just use a freaking CF card |
| 22:46.02 | rev|lib | wish i had a sigurmon III rather than the Z |
| 22:46.04 | jroad | you can use a cheaper phone with serial out |
| 22:46.08 | rev|lib | ah |
| 22:46.10 | jroad | but you need a cable |
| 22:46.11 | rev|lib | but that isn't wireless |
| 22:46.12 | rev|lib | yeah |
| 22:46.59 | jroad | sigurmon? |
| 22:47.15 | rev|lib | something like that |
| 22:47.17 | rev|lib | just a sec i'll find it |
| 22:47.31 | rev|lib | sigmarion |
| 22:47.47 | rev|lib | http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/0304/22/m01.html. |
| 22:47.49 | rev|lib | http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/0304/22/m01.htm |
| 22:47.51 | rev|lib | ACK |
| 22:47.51 | rev|lib | http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/0304/22/m01.html |
| 22:47.52 | rev|lib | heh |
| 22:48.03 | rev|lib | http://palmare.idnes.cz/PocketPC_WinCE/WinCE_Hardware/sigmarion030613.html |
| 22:48.08 | rev|lib | even has a real keyboard |
| 22:48.12 | rev|lib | 800x480 |
| 22:48.14 | VampireZIM | that machine is huge |
| 22:48.17 | jroad | hmm |
| 22:48.24 | VampireZIM | why dont you just get a Sony Picturebook, |
| 22:48.40 | rev|lib | i'd be against the hassles of a 'regular' computer |
| 22:48.45 | rev|lib | VampireZIM: ever get your bluetooth+zaurus to work? |
| 22:48.54 | VampireZIM | dont have a bt card |
| 22:48.58 | rev|lib | ah |
| 22:49.03 | mspencer | That whole 'fitting in your pocket' thing is not to be ignored :) |
| 22:49.05 | VampireZIM | fucking Socket cards cost more than my fucking car |
| 22:49.21 | mspencer | only at some merchants? |
| 22:49.24 | jroad | ~$130? |
| 22:49.27 | rev|lib | haha |
| 22:49.37 | rev|lib | i wonder how much bigger this sigmarion thing is than the Jornada 720 |
| 22:49.44 | rev|lib | because i could fit the J720 in my pocket |
| 22:49.45 | rev|lib | but hell |
| 22:49.48 | rev|lib | i can fit a Newton MP2100 |
| 22:49.49 | rev|lib | mostly |
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| 22:51.12 | rev|lib | it's 7.5" x 4" x .8" |
| 22:51.26 | jroad | hehe i was trying to find a unit calc for that |
| 22:51.43 | rev|lib | 1" = 25.4 mm |
| 22:52.03 | jroad | too much math |
| 22:53.32 | jroad | ya thats pretty big |
| 22:53.41 | mspencer | damn...should've made a backup. |
| 22:53.56 | jroad | you have no backup? |
| 22:53.57 | mspencer | Sukoshi released a kernel a few days ago, with excellent performance. I flashed it, and loved it. |
| 22:54.06 | mspencer | But after flashing it, I didn't keep a copy elsewhere. |
| 22:54.09 | rev|lib | and a jornada 720 is: 7.4" x 3.75" x 1.3" |
| 22:54.18 | rev|lib | so it's even a little bit smaller |
| 22:54.23 | rev|lib | man, wish i had a SigIII |
| 22:54.24 | mspencer | I then re-flashed another kernel SuKoShi just released today, and it doesn't boot at all. |
| 22:54.31 | rev|lib | well |
| 22:54.32 | rev|lib | gotta run |
| 22:54.35 | rev|lib | home time and all |
| 22:54.35 | rev|lib | ciao |
| 22:54.37 | jroad | cya |
| 22:54.52 | mspencer | I'd like to go back to the one from a few days ago, which had noticably better performance than the default kernel...and I can't find a copy X__X |
| 22:55.25 | jroad | oh |
| 22:55.57 | jroad | you on the 700 ? |
| 22:56.04 | mspencer | yeah |
| 22:56.07 | mspencer | corgi :) |
| 22:56.16 | jroad | that patch seems to work wonders |
| 22:56.21 | jroad | in performance |
| 22:56.28 | jroad | from the bench i saw |
| 22:56.30 | mspencer | yeah. :-) |
| 22:56.38 | mspencer | You don't happen to have a copy laying around, do you? |
| 22:56.50 | jroad | of his kernel? |
| 22:56.54 | jroad | no im on 760 |
| 22:57.05 | mspencer | *nodsnods* |
| 22:57.26 | jroad | didnt he have website? |
| 22:57.38 | mspencer | http://laurent.lieben.free.fr/zaurus_kernel/corgi/ |
| 22:57.46 | mspencer | he overwrote the old version with the new one |
| 22:57.51 | jroad | oh |
| 22:59.27 | jroad | so how do you recover if you cant boot? reset? |
| 23:00.29 | mspencer | re-flash. The updater still works. |
| 23:00.51 | mspencer | it's just...it's said "Rebooting the system..." from the last flash attempt for several minutes. |
| 23:01.32 | jroad | im somewhat of a newb so cant help much |
| 23:02.03 | jroad | i just got around to installing linux on desktop recently |
| 23:04.21 | mspencer | *reflashes the Sharp kernel, so I can double-check whether the new one really feels faster than the old one I haven't used in months...* |
| 23:05.15 | jroad | to reflash the kernel you use the DM trick? |
| 23:06.24 | mspencer | no, just the standard OK + power switch |
| 23:06.31 | mspencer | the DM trick would be overkill |
| 23:07.37 | jroad | oh i see....does that take you to a menu or does it auto reflash the kernel? |
| 23:10.39 | mspencer | it takes you to a menu, in Japanese. Option 4 is roughly 'update' in katakana, then pick 'SD' (option 3), then say 'hai' |
| 23:12.15 | jroad | ok thanks |
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| 23:13.47 | VampireZIM | trek: how many devices do you have? |
| 23:13.58 | treke|laptop | 2 |
| 23:14.08 | treke|laptop | a 3630 and a 3850 |
| 23:14.12 | VampireZIM | what laptop? |
| 23:14.19 | treke|laptop | Compaq 1712 |
| 23:14.25 | VampireZIM | oh |
| 23:19.05 | treke|laptop | it's cheap and it does what I need |
| 23:19.32 | VampireZIM | i bought my daughter a Sony Picturebook, but she crashed it today |
| 23:19.42 | VampireZIM | i have to get on Sonys site and download drivers |
| 23:20.14 | VampireZIM | she is 7 but she is really good with computers, she isnt too good at troubleshooting though |
| 23:20.54 | jroad | what programs do 7 year olds use? |
| 23:21.40 | VampireZIM | games mostly |
| 23:21.53 | cyn2 | VampireZIM: wait, didn't it come with a drivers cd/etc. |
| 23:21.55 | jroad | oh |
| 23:21.56 | VampireZIM | educational games and she is on MSN messenger |
| 23:22.13 | VampireZIM | cyn2: yea on CDROM, but i dont have a CDROM drive |
| 23:22.27 | cyn2 | ah |
| 23:22.43 | cyn2 | well, get network running - and share the cdrom :) |
| 23:22.57 | jroad | wow 7 year old on messenger |
| 23:23.14 | cyn2 | 7yr old on the internet |
| 23:23.21 | cyn2 | swallow THAT without biting your naisl |
| 23:23.28 | jroad | haha |
| 23:23.29 | cyn2 | s/sl/ls/ |
| 23:23.37 | VampireZIM | i have an ethernet card, getting the drivers is not a problem, just too lazy right now. :) |
| 23:24.03 | cyn2 | rgr, sorry little girl - daddys busy with his friends who he believes to be older than you |
| 23:24.23 | VampireZIM | heh |
| 23:24.48 | jroad | and remeber dont chat with strangers |
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| 23:47.54 | mspencer | you can just pass extra compiler options to make, right? Like, say I wanted 'make' to include ../nessus-libraries/libpcap-nessus/ -- would I just type make -I../nessus-libraries/libpcap-nessus/ ? |
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| 23:56.07 | mspencer | never mind -- I edited nasl/cflags and just added it there. Seems to be compiling again :) |