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| 01:54.09 | rev | man |
| 01:54.13 | rev | i really need to find some good zaurus games |
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| 02:10.04 | subdue | neo games aren't bad |
| 02:10.34 | subdue | http://eongames.com/games/ |
| 02:10.50 | absentia | lame |
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| 02:11.15 | rev | eh |
| 02:11.19 | rev | they haven't worked onm y C760 |
| 02:11.31 | rev | i'd really want a simple mille bournes game |
| 02:11.34 | rev | but i doubt thqat exists |
| 02:11.49 | subdue | if they dont work on it, tell neo |
| 02:11.57 | subdue | so he can fix what's needed |
| 02:12.00 | subdue | (if you're talking eongames) |
| 02:12.01 | rev | i did |
| 02:12.10 | rev | he says he can't do anytihng about it |
| 02:12.11 | rev | at least with snails |
| 02:12.33 | absentia | it does |
| 02:12.41 | absentia | I should program one. |
| 02:12.57 | rev | huh? |
| 02:13.18 | absentia | mille bourne.. whatever.. 9 men morris? |
| 02:13.19 | absentia | simple game |
| 02:13.25 | kergoth | rev: whats the prob w/ snails on c760? |
| 02:13.26 | absentia | in fact, I Think I have it on zaurus |
| 02:13.51 | rev | kergoth: it displays in a 240x320 corner of the screen |
| 02:14.01 | kergoth | rev: turn on zoom mode on that app |
| 02:14.03 | rev | and then you can't tap on any menu options or use the arrows |
| 02:14.07 | kergoth | rev: run it in 320 |
| 02:14.09 | rev | it just sat there |
| 02:14.12 | rev | in magnified mode |
| 02:14.16 | kergoth | odd |
| 02:14.17 | rev | never saw anything |
| 02:14.19 | rev | yeah |
| 02:14.21 | kergoth | zoom mode is 320x240, should work |
| 02:14.39 | rev | would magnified mode work with an SDL app? |
| 02:14.43 | rev | i think vampire said it worked on his C700 |
| 02:14.46 | rev | can't remember though |
| 02:14.57 | kergoth | you'd think so.. |
| 02:15.02 | kergoth | the fb0 would report 320x240 |
| 02:15.12 | kergoth | so as far as its concerned itd be no different |
| 02:16.08 | rev | ah |
| 02:16.09 | rev | k |
| 02:16.25 | rev | i don't think i tried another eon game |
| 02:16.26 | rev | maybe one |
| 02:16.37 | kergoth | all qtopia does is a normal resolution change on the FB, the same way fbset does on a linux desktop |
| 02:16.44 | rev | ah, didn't know |
| 02:16.48 | rev | thought it just did some trickery |
| 02:16.54 | kergoth | so did i at first |
| 02:17.03 | kergoth | someone dug into it to add rez changing support to poie |
| 02:17.06 | kergoth | s/poie/opie/ |
| 02:17.16 | rev | oooh |
| 02:17.20 | rev | what kind of rez changing? just that? |
| 02:17.26 | rev | or somethingeven more fun? |
| 02:17.33 | kergoth | you can select any supported resolution |
| 02:17.34 | rev | llike rezes past 240x230? |
| 02:17.39 | rev | er 240x320 |
| 02:17.41 | kergoth | Z only supports 320x240 on 5x00 |
| 02:17.45 | rev | yeah |
| 02:17.47 | kergoth | and 320 and 640 on c7x0 |
| 02:17.50 | kergoth | now on a desktop though |
| 02:17.51 | rev | but trickery would be a possibility |
| 02:17.51 | rev | that is |
| 02:17.57 | kergoth | you could switch your opie on the linux fb to like 1024 or something |
| 02:18.02 | kergoth | instead of being stuck in the default mode |
| 02:18.03 | rev | on pocketpc/wince, there's an app which can emulate higher resolutions |
| 02:18.08 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:18.09 | rev | works well for browsing and PDF reading |
| 02:18.48 | treke|laptop | I've heard of that |
| 02:18.55 | treke|laptop | dont they cal it the "scrollbar" |
| 02:19.16 | _Bala_ | :) |
| 02:19.17 | rev | pffft |
| 02:19.20 | rev | that's the point of this app |
| 02:19.25 | rev | so you don't have to scroll all around |
| 02:19.35 | rev | anywho |
| 02:19.38 | rev | it's moot for me |
| 02:19.40 | rev | since i've a C760 |
| 02:19.54 | rev | and am doing well at 640x480 |
| 02:20.32 | _Bala_ | if you cant scroll why would you emulate a bigger size screen?? just so you cant look at portions of it? |
| 02:22.09 | rev | no |
| 02:22.19 | rev | it doesn't emulate ala you would in X11 |
| 02:22.23 | rev | via a virtual res |
| 02:22.27 | rev | for example |
| 02:22.39 | _Bala_ | it scales? |
| 02:22.42 | rev | it'll pretend to display all 640x480 on a 320x240 screen |
| 02:22.42 | rev | yes |
| 02:22.44 | rev | scales all the apps |
| 02:22.48 | _Bala_ | crappy |
| 02:22.56 | rev | obviously it can't actually display the pixels on a screen of a fixed size |
| 02:22.59 | rev | not really |
| 02:23.00 | rev | it works quite well |
| 02:23.01 | _Bala_ | i like to read the text |
| 02:23.03 | rev | for certain tasks |
| 02:23.05 | rev | umm |
| 02:23.06 | rev | that's the point |
| 02:23.11 | rev | sometimes it's more readable |
| 02:23.17 | rev | especially with scanned PDFs |
| 02:23.51 | _Bala_ | hmmm perhaps.. |
| 02:27.44 | rev | but with apps that can do scaling themselves really well it's not really needed |
| 02:27.47 | rev | but there are apps that don't do it |
| 02:27.48 | rev | or don't do it well |
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| 02:55.49 | rev | absentia: where is this mille bournes for teh Z |
| 02:55.49 | rev | ? |
| 02:56.12 | absentia | hold on |
| 02:56.16 | rev | k |
| 02:56.17 | rev | thanks! |
| 02:57.57 | absentia | http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=907 |
| 02:57.58 | absentia | is that it ? |
| 02:58.29 | absentia | Ive played it |
| 02:58.34 | absentia | I always kick its ass until the last part |
| 02:58.38 | absentia | I get up 2 pieces |
| 02:58.39 | absentia | but then lose |
| 02:58.40 | absentia | :-< |
| 02:58.50 | rev | ummm |
| 02:58.50 | absentia | I know there's a set ending to the game... |
| 02:58.50 | rev | no |
| 02:58.52 | rev | heh |
| 02:58.53 | absentia | no ? |
| 02:58.57 | rev | that's an entirely different game completely |
| 02:59.01 | absentia | what are you tooking for ? |
| 02:59.22 | absentia | the game from like the early 1900s ? |
| 02:59.25 | rev | a game that is called mille bournes |
| 02:59.29 | absentia | ya |
| 02:59.31 | rev | http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mille_Bournes |
| 02:59.33 | absentia | show me a url with the picture |
| 02:59.36 | rev | it's a card game |
| 02:59.37 | rev | will do |
| 02:59.54 | rev | http://games.newfreeware.com/programs/173/ |
| 03:00.26 | absentia | picture? |
| 03:00.58 | absentia | ah |
| 03:01.01 | absentia | I've never played or seen that game |
| 03:01.03 | absentia | :-< |
| 03:01.10 | absentia | sorry, was thinking of something completely different. |
| 03:01.24 | absentia | looks like the game "red barron" .. the card game |
| 03:01.26 | absentia | ever see that ? |
| 03:01.37 | rev | nope |
| 03:01.40 | rev | this is a game of driving they call it |
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| 03:02.02 | absentia | ah |
| 03:02.16 | absentia | I scored over 80 decks of cards last night |
| 03:02.18 | absentia | the faces. |
| 03:03.19 | rev | :) |
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| 04:27.22 | Marsupilami23 | Does anyone know if the new Sharp ROM supports the USB networking? |
| 04:28.04 | VampireZIM | anyone using that bluetooth module? |
| 04:28.18 | rev | Marsupilami23: it should |
| 04:28.25 | VampireZIM | http://www.wirelesscables.com/products/ZaurusWCI.html |
| 04:28.28 | rev | VampireZIM: get a card? |
| 04:28.37 | VampireZIM | no, i am considering that |
| 04:28.50 | rev | cool |
| 04:28.51 | rev | looks slick |
| 04:28.51 | VampireZIM | it looks cool, they claim its easier to get connected and doesnt take CF slot |
| 04:28.55 | rev | and doesn't waste a SD or CF card |
| 04:29.03 | VampireZIM | yea, and they claim it works with C7x0 too |
| 04:29.09 | rev | sweet |
| 04:29.21 | VampireZIM | i am more concerned with ease and speed of connecting to my cellphone |
| 04:29.40 | VampireZIM | i guess it automaticly pairs with the phone on power up and then you just treat it like a serial connection |
| 04:29.46 | VampireZIM | sounds good |
| 04:30.12 | VampireZIM | so it doesnt need special drivers |
| 04:31.04 | rev | funky |
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| 04:31.10 | VampireZIM | yea |
| 04:31.20 | rev | but how do you establish a tcp/ip connection using it? |
| 04:31.21 | rev | or |
| 04:31.27 | rev | do you use it as a modem via the serial? |
| 04:31.33 | rev | like |
| 04:31.48 | VampireZIM | it pairs with two devices, the usb plug that comes with it and a bluetooth phone, it will auto connect to the usb plug if in range and if not, it will connect to the phone |
| 04:31.50 | rev | does the phone provide tcp/ip or internet, or does it have a modem builtin? |
| 04:32.03 | VampireZIM | yea, it acts like a serial cable |
| 04:32.09 | VampireZIM | so you connect like you would a modem |
| 04:32.14 | rev | ah |
| 04:32.17 | VampireZIM | same way i connect with IR to my cell phone |
| 04:32.22 | rev | k |
| 04:32.31 | VampireZIM | but IR is extremely unreliable |
| 04:32.33 | VampireZIM | i hate it |
| 04:33.04 | VampireZIM | hell with that, i could have a 1GB SD and a 1GB CF, 2GB should be pretty nice |
| 04:33.26 | VampireZIM | while online, i could use my IR folding keyboard too. :) |
| 04:33.59 | Marsupilami23 | rev: When I installed it last it never gave me the option to configure USB networking/internet... |
| 04:34.15 | Marsupilami23 | rev: I'll check out Sharps website |
| 04:35.15 | rev | ah |
| 04:35.24 | rev | installed what last? |
| 04:35.25 | rev | the ROM/ |
| 04:35.49 | rev | ? |
| 04:37.47 | Marsupilami23 | rev: Yea sorry, the developers ROM |
| 04:38.26 | Marsupilami23 | rev: 3.10 v |
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| 04:50.54 | rev | huh? |
| 04:50.56 | rev | 3.10 is for developers? |
| 04:51.00 | rev | i thought it was a general release |
| 04:51.02 | rev | but anywho |
| 04:51.10 | rev | i've never had any ROM ask me about usbnet |
| 04:51.16 | rev | but the settings are there |
| 04:51.37 | VampireZIM | rev: do you know how the world icon connection thing works in QT? |
| 04:51.53 | rev | world icon connection? |
| 04:51.54 | rev | huh? |
| 04:52.27 | VampireZIM | to make that adapter work, i will have to get it to do a dial up connection to /dev/ttyS0 with 115200 bps, but when i set up a dial up, it just give the option MODEM or IR |
| 04:52.38 | VampireZIM | if i select modem, will it check that port? |
| 04:53.03 | rev | i imagine so |
| 04:53.05 | rev | it should |
| 04:53.10 | VampireZIM | hmm |
| 04:53.20 | VampireZIM | but i think the MODEM option is for a CF card |
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| 04:54.33 | rev | shouldn't matter |
| 04:54.44 | rev | as long as that CF card maps to ttyS0 |
| 04:55.05 | VampireZIM | hmm |
| 04:55.19 | rev | but |
| 04:55.31 | rev | if the CF card mapped to ttyS1 |
| 04:55.36 | rev | you could make a soft link |
| 04:56.15 | VampireZIM | hmm, so i could rename the dev/ttyS0 to old and link -s ttyS0 ttyS1? |
| 04:56.21 | VampireZIM | that would work? |
| 04:56.58 | rev | i don't know about renaming ttyS0 |
| 04:57.02 | rev | not sure if that'd be a good idea |
| 04:57.05 | rev | but a link may work |
| 04:57.20 | VampireZIM | how could i link it, if the file exists? |
| 04:59.56 | rev | umm |
| 05:00.05 | rev | ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/ttyS1 |
| 05:00.36 | VampireZIM | but then there would be two ttyS0 files, one real and one link, that works? |
| 05:00.49 | VampireZIM | linux go for the link before the real file? |
| 05:01.50 | VampireZIM | or two ttyS1 |
| 05:06.12 | VampireZIM | yea, that wont work |
| 05:06.37 | VampireZIM | cant rn it either |
| 05:08.53 | VampireZIM | oh, works when i am root. ;) |
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| 05:22.03 | rev | yarr |
| 05:22.04 | rev | heh |
| 05:22.06 | rev | good |
| 05:23.02 | VampireZIM | i emailed them, asking if they think that would work, i really want this to work |
| 05:23.41 | VampireZIM | if i cant get a reliable bluetooth option for Zaurus, i will sell my C700 and get the new UX50, and i fucking hate PALM, but i need Bluetooth |
| 05:32.05 | rev | well |
| 05:32.13 | rev | you can't "fucking hate palm" all that bad |
| 05:32.15 | rev | after all |
| 05:32.16 | rev | it is useful |
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| 05:43.43 | VampireZIM | how is useful? |
| 05:43.54 | VampireZIM | how is it any more useful than any other pda os? |
| 05:52.18 | rev | why does anything have to be more useful than the other options to still be useful? |
| 05:54.29 | kergoth | rev: he's probably someone who believes an OS has to be 'more useful' than windows to be useful. |
| 05:54.33 | kergoth | heh |
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| 06:00.47 | rev | kergoth: ouch :P |
| 06:01.13 | rev | i imagine palmos is alot more useful than a number of PDAs OSes in different ways |
| 06:02.27 | VampireZIM | palm os is the worst os since dos |
| 06:02.38 | VampireZIM | palm os is one step above dos |
| 06:02.57 | oGMo | erm |
| 06:03.00 | VampireZIM | except in many ways dos is alot more useful |
| 06:03.06 | oGMo | you're forgetting NT |
| 06:03.18 | oGMo | win* to be general |
| 06:03.21 | VampireZIM | NT at least multitasks |
| 06:03.32 | oGMo | that doesn't make it better ;) |
| 06:03.42 | VampireZIM | it does in my opinion |
| 06:03.47 | VampireZIM | well, Voyager is on. bbl |
| 06:04.23 | rev | hahaha |
| 06:05.46 | rev | nuff said |
| 06:06.13 | VampireZIM | stupid commercials |
| 06:06.14 | VampireZIM | :) |
| 06:06.20 | rev | yarr |
| 06:06.22 | rev | i hate commercials |
| 06:06.43 | oGMo | so skip them |
| 06:06.52 | VampireZIM | yea, there is a group working on Linux for UX50, that is something to look forward to. I only hope it supports all the built in features, BT, Wifi, etc |
| 06:07.26 | rev | like many things palm vs linux, it'd probably support them, but do it poorly |
| 06:07.36 | rev | but that's always something to look forward too |
| 06:07.53 | rev | because in the end, the LUG bragging rights are really *far* more important |
| 06:07.58 | VampireZIM | i wish Sony would release a Linux dist |
| 06:08.04 | rev | they have |
| 06:08.05 | VampireZIM | Sony would do it right |
| 06:08.07 | rev | it's for the playstation |
| 06:08.15 | rev | why would sony do it better than anyone else? |
| 06:08.23 | VampireZIM | i mean for there PDAs, instead of using that POS |
| 06:08.31 | VampireZIM | Sony is god |
| 06:08.59 | rev | they'd need to write from scratch pretty much everything after the kernel and some of the userland stuff (incl gcc) |
| 06:09.34 | rev | it's not like sony would use qtopia |
| 06:09.37 | rev | or x11 |
| 06:09.39 | rev | or microwindows |
| 06:09.48 | rev | maybe they'd use picogui |
| 06:09.51 | rev | that'd be neat |
| 06:09.56 | VampireZIM | they would probably make there own gui, it would be pretty |
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| 06:11.42 | TCMAN | hi |
| 06:11.52 | rev | yo tc |
| 06:12.05 | TCMAN | i just came back from siggraph, it was pretty cool |
| 06:12.34 | TCMAN | bitboys showed their white elephant, err, Acceleon :))) |
| 06:12.49 | rev | swee |
| 06:12.49 | rev | t |
| 06:13.24 | TCMAN | running in fpga at 6mhz, but they claim they sold the design to real customers that commit it to silicon |
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| 06:15.42 | rev | what is it? |
| 06:16.06 | rev | ah |
| 06:16.08 | rev | interesting |
| 06:16.32 | TCMAN | 3d gfx chip for pdas |
| 06:16.37 | rev | coo |
| 06:16.45 | rev | 2D acceleration too? |
| 06:16.50 | TCMAN | but i think we are going to own the market anyway :))) |
| 06:17.11 | TCMAN | we = ati |
| 06:17.15 | rev | are you with taceeleon? |
| 06:17.15 | rev | ah |
| 06:17.15 | rev | ok |
| 06:17.19 | rev | of course |
| 06:17.29 | rev | i hope it supports more than 240x320 |
| 06:17.45 | rev | is ati coming out with new pda chips? |
| 06:18.01 | TCMAN | i think it does, they have 3 versions of design providing different levels of functionality |
| 06:18.12 | TCMAN | rev: no comment :) |
| 06:18.25 | rev | you'd think ati or one of these companies would hook up with intel or TI to work on providing a chip core to the producers of the chips |
| 06:18.29 | rev | for integration all on one IC |
| 06:18.35 | rev | you know |
| 06:18.36 | rev | system-on-a-chip |
| 06:18.43 | TCMAN | i know, that would be cool |
| 06:18.48 | rev | have the xscale+gfx+wifi all in one chip |
| 06:18.50 | rev | lower power, blah blah |
| 06:19.00 | TCMAN | ati has big set top box business and we have our own embedded mips cores |
| 06:19.03 | TCMAN | but no ARM |
| 06:19.05 | rev | mmhmm |
| 06:21.08 | kergoth | i hate it when i code something, and it not only compiles, but actually works, without alteration. |
| 06:21.12 | kergoth | its spooky. |
| 06:21.25 | rev | haha |
| 06:21.46 | rev | being a smalltalk programmer, i'm used to that |
| 06:21.48 | TCMAN | kergoth: it only means that the bug is very well hidden |
| 06:21.53 | rev | although it did take a bit to get used to it at first |
| 06:21.55 | kergoth | TCMAN: indeed. |
| 06:22.02 | rev | i thought perhaps i was doing something really wrong |
| 06:22.09 | rev | but in the end, stuff continued to work |
| 06:22.17 | rev | it was kind of unsettling |
| 06:22.20 | rev | yet satisfying |
| 06:45.58 | rev | ufff |
| 06:46.03 | rev | time for bed methinks |
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| 13:16.19 | *** topic/#zaurus is Zaurus Discussion - http://www.zaurus.com/ - http://myzaurus.com/ | OpenZaurus help in #openzaurus |
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| 13:23.51 | kyngel | Morning, all. |
| 13:39.37 | cyn_ | neat: http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/index.shtml |
| 13:42.30 | hardwire | hey now thats a neat site ;) |
| 13:43.43 | kyngel | Worth saving the URL for when I get home? |
| 13:45.54 | hardwire | yes |
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| 14:32.09 | kyngel | Ahh... FINALLY. My problem with the Z's endian-ness=solved. :) |
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| 14:34.35 | uncon | anyone know when there might be a new oz release? |
| 14:35.56 | aTypical | uncon: I am on the site now and whoever maintains it says he's working on it now but doesn't want to give a timeframe. |
| 14:36.24 | kyngel | I'm not sure, but I think I heard him say on one of these channels that any release date would have to be after Opie 1.0's release.... |
| 14:36.27 | kyngel | ...which is today. |
| 14:36.59 | aTypical | kyngel: Is there a big difference between Opie and OpenZaurus? |
| 14:37.14 | uncon | opie is in oz |
| 14:37.16 | kyngel | Opie is the WM for OpenZaurus, if I have the difference between them right. |
| 14:37.33 | aTypical | OK, that makes sense. |
| 14:37.35 | kyngel | Think of it as a replacement for the Qtopia environment in Sharp's ROMs. |
| 14:37.45 | kyngel | Though it's built on Qtopia, I think. |
| 14:37.53 | uncon | it's a branch of qt |
| 14:37.57 | uncon | (opia) |
| 14:38.04 | kyngel | Anyway, the Opie team is supposed to roll out 1.0 over the next 48 hours. |
| 14:38.06 | aTypical | Sounds good to me. Is anyone sync'ing with Multisync? |
| 14:38.34 | kyngel | I don't even know what Multisync is. :) |
| 14:38.53 | aTypical | I want to sync my Z with Evolution. I was reading up on Multisync and it seems to be the most promising. |
| 14:39.12 | kyngel | No idea on syncing with Linux... we just use ssh and sftp here on our Redhat 9 boxes. |
| 14:39.29 | aTypical | Are you on it right now? |
| 14:39.35 | kyngel | Yeah. |
| 14:39.44 | aTypical | What desktop app are you using? |
| 14:39.56 | kyngel | Just a terminal; VNC, ssh, and sftp. |
| 14:40.13 | aTypical | You don't use Qtopia or Evolution? |
| 14:40.14 | kyngel | We don't do addressbooks. :P |
| 14:40.28 | kyngel | No, these are for work. My personal one syncs on a Windows desktop with Qtopia. |
| 14:41.04 | kyngel | Though my install of Intellisync seems to be, for lack of a better word, borked. |
| 14:42.13 | kyngel | So, at home I still mainly use sftp to do file transfers. |
| 14:42.22 | aTypical | Oh. On your RH box, how did you set it up? For some reason my device keeps trying to use the CDCEther driver instead of the usbdnet. Is it the same for you? Also, my Z keeps coming up as eth1 instead of usb0. Do you know if that will cause a problem with sync'ing? |
| 14:42.55 | kyngel | No idea. I'm not syncing with the box (we haven't even taken the cradles out of their shrinkwrap), we're just using Ethernet cards. |
| 14:43.03 | kyngel | We just plug 'em into the network. |
| 14:43.15 | aTypical | That's cool. |
| 14:43.22 | kyngel | Yeah, works really nicely. |
| 14:43.27 | aTypical | Excuse me while I flash myself. |
| 14:43.29 | aTypical | :) |
| 14:43.33 | kyngel | As long as you don't flash me. :) |
| 14:43.47 | kyngel | Actually, I'm working on a custom ROM right now. |
| 14:45.46 | uncon | the cradle would be a lot cooler if it were just anic with an rj45 jack and the power jack |
| 14:49.09 | kyngel | Yeah. |
| 14:51.14 | hardwire | uncon: poe baby |
| 14:59.04 | uncon | huh? |
| 15:00.35 | kergoth | Poe? the alternative band or the poet? |
| 15:00.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:00.52 | uncon | hey kergoth |
| 15:01.24 | kergoth | hey |
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| 15:18.42 | Smokie | i tried gpsd on openZaurus, but i canīt connect via telnet to it as i can on my desktop. What could it be ? |
| 15:19.13 | kergoth | uh, need a LOT more information |
| 15:19.18 | kergoth | "can't connect" is meaningless |
| 15:19.21 | kergoth | exact error messages |
| 15:20.33 | Smokie | no response from telnet... just silence |
| 15:21.08 | Smokie | on my Desktop i get a "connect to" and "Escape Char.." even if i have nothing connected to the ttyS |
| 15:21.22 | Smokie | from gpsd |
| 15:23.05 | Smokie | i use "telnet localhost 2947" on both to connect to gpsd |
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| 16:38.23 | VampireZIM | anyone want to buy a 128MB SD? |
| 16:38.26 | VampireZIM | msg me |
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| 17:04.19 | sashz | night |
| 17:04.23 | sashz | :) |
| 17:04.28 | kergoth | hey sashz |
| 17:04.34 | sashz | hi |
| 17:04.38 | sashz | what news& |
| 17:04.40 | sashz | ? |
| 17:04.50 | kergoth | you notice any delays on initial boot on your c750/c760? |
| 17:05.05 | sashz | nope , it is ok |
| 17:05.06 | kergoth | i find that the mount of /home process consumes like 95% of the cpu for like 20-45 seconds |
| 17:05.10 | kergoth | so t yping is all lagged |
| 17:05.12 | sashz | aah |
| 17:05.13 | kergoth | kinda weird |
| 17:05.16 | sashz | yes, |
| 17:05.28 | sashz | i think jffs scanning partition tree |
| 17:05.59 | kergoth | yeah, wonder if anything can be done to prevent the login prompt from happening before thats complete |
| 17:06.13 | kergoth | i'd rather have a longer "please wait" than a machine that "feels" slow |
| 17:06.19 | sashz | :) |
| 17:06.30 | sashz | we get switch to 320x240 mode, but... |
| 17:06.42 | kergoth | havent worked on the new units much lately |
| 17:06.50 | kergoth | 5500 2.4.21 everything works but sdmmc :) |
| 17:06.53 | sashz | after switch back in 640x480 , zaurus halting or working veeeeeeeryy slowww |
| 17:06.55 | kergoth | and sdmmc is under way |
| 17:06.57 | sashz | :( |
| 17:07.26 | kergoth | yeiazel: its coming |
| 17:07.28 | yeiazel | :p |
| 17:07.41 | kergoth | opie 1.0 is out.. new units need some thorough testing |
| 17:07.45 | yeiazel | is it ? |
| 17:07.45 | sashz | 2.4.21 cool :) i use it on pc slake |
| 17:07.45 | kergoth | and 2.4.21 on collie needs sdmmc |
| 17:07.52 | kergoth | yep, it was tagged yesterday |
| 17:07.59 | yeiazel | :) |
| 17:08.19 | yeiazel | will oz 3.6 be linux2.6 powered ? :) |
| 17:08.25 | sashz | we write data how sharp qte working with /dev/fb but it unsuccefull |
| 17:08.32 | kergoth | 3.6 is development branch |
| 17:08.37 | kergoth | dunno |
| 17:08.39 | kergoth | thats ways off |
| 17:08.42 | kergoth | probably 2.8 or something |
| 17:08.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:08.50 | sashz | we partially disassembled qte, ATICore working directy with ATI chip |
| 17:09.06 | kergoth | nice |
| 17:09.44 | kyngel | Privet, sashz. |
| 17:09.53 | sashz | privet kyngel |
| 17:10.15 | sashz | because we cant switch in 320x240 and back, impossible write normal video player |
| 17:10.46 | kergoth | maybe the fb driver isnt cleaning up properly when switching back |
| 17:10.50 | kergoth | can probably fix |
| 17:11.27 | sashz | we have full logs how switching sharp qte, but it not work correctly |
| 17:11.56 | kyngel | I *finally* figured out that problem with the software... it was indeed an endian problem on the Z. But not the one I'd though. |
| 17:12.14 | kergoth | hey sashz, you wouldnt by chance know any japanese would you/ |
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| 17:15.26 | kyngel | Turns out double-precision floats on the Z are indeed little-endian by byte... but the words are big-endian, for some reason I can't fathom. :) |
| 17:25.26 | sashz | just upgraded C700 with initrd.bin from C760 ;-) it work, and probably even quickly than original C700 romimage :) |
| 17:25.38 | sashz | only removed japanese dictionary |
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| 17:25.58 | sashz | which have size in half or 760 root partition |
| 17:26.05 | sashz | of |
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| 17:44.08 | cyn_ | hmm I'd be wary about cross-device flashing like that |
| 17:44.15 | cyn_ | unless you researched that, you got damned lucky imo :) |
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| 18:17.56 | aTypical | Hello again. Is anyone here using multisync? |
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| 18:37.10 | rev | morning all |
| 18:37.47 | VampireZIM | hey rev |
| 18:38.20 | rev | sups up |
| 18:38.30 | VampireZIM | just sold my 128Mb SD |
| 18:38.46 | uncon | 1just bought a 128MB SD |
| 18:38.50 | rev | haha |
| 18:38.58 | VampireZIM | what a cooincidence. (sp?) |
| 18:39.36 | rev | a shame i can't get a PCMCIA -> SD converter, heh |
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| 18:39.48 | VampireZIM | hmm |
| 18:39.53 | VampireZIM | i want a 2GB SD |
| 18:39.54 | VampireZIM | :) |
| 18:40.02 | ChipX86 | do most people develop on qtopia-free 1.5 or 1.6? |
| 18:40.04 | rev | i could get a PCMCIA -> CF converter cheap and easy |
| 18:40.13 | rev | but then where'd the wifi go? |
| 18:40.27 | uncon | VampireZIM... |
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| 18:40.33 | uncon | i pout CF in that desc... |
| 18:40.37 | uncon | put* |
| 18:40.45 | uncon | i was j/k (: |
| 18:40.53 | VampireZIM | heh, i havent looked yet |
| 18:41.40 | uncon | oh, you should have the mail... |
| 18:41.40 | ChipX86 | treke: nod. Just wondering between those two options, which is preferred.. I seem to have hit a very strange bug in 1.5, and would move to 1.6, but I don't want any problems on older ROMs |
| 18:41.50 | treke | ChipX86: Your safer with 1.5 |
| 18:42.02 | treke | Qtopia 1.6 is not compatible with Qtopia 1.5 |
| 18:42.08 | VampireZIM | uncon: i got it, but i just checked the amount |
| 18:42.10 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 18:42.11 | treke | and the zauruses all use 1.5 |
| 18:43.18 | ChipX86 | then I have to figure out what's going on with this bug... it seems if I allocate a new instance of QTab or a subclass of it, my program is crashing in my framebuffer whenever I display a page with tabs. The odd thing is that the function allocating the QTab is never called |
| 18:43.56 | treke | try compiling agaisnt opie. I've seen things like that occur with the free sdk |
| 18:44.05 | treke | or you can try locating an rpm for the commercial sdk |
| 18:44.09 | treke | they updated it a couple of times |
| 18:46.57 | ChipX86 | ok. Thanks |
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| 19:31.59 | kyngel | Huh... the Zaurus console mode suuuuure likes to interrupt my program. :( |
| 19:37.13 | rev | anyone know how to get into console mode on the C7x0? |
| 19:37.25 | rev | like you do by hitting a key during "Wait..." on a 5500? |
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| 22:00.08 | Neo|Work | sugar heard warmi |
| 22:00.08 | Sugar | Neo|Work: I last heard warmi on IRC 233h 15m 28s ago in channel #zaurus saying: something for ljp |
| 22:00.09 | Neo|Work | sugar heard warmi_away |
| 22:00.09 | Sugar | Neo|Work: I last heard warmi_away on IRC 301h 44m 17s ago in channel #zaurus saying: yeah, old style documents tab was next to useless |
| 22:00.18 | Neo|Work | hum |
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| 22:35.44 | TheMasterMind1 | who wants a opie1/kernel-2.4.21 to test |
| 22:35.48 | TheMasterMind1 | fresh off the compiler |
| 22:38.12 | VampireZIM | has anyone used this? http://www.wirelesscables.com/products/ZaurusWCI.html |
| 22:39.35 | TheMasterMind1 | www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/zaurus/collie/ <-- latest opie 1 / 2.4.21 testing image. ts works, and stuff is mostly usable. sd/mmc and keyboard in qt are still broken |
| 22:39.55 | TheMasterMind1 | VampireZIM: have not, but looks damn cool |
| 22:40.19 | VampireZIM | yea |
| 22:40.29 | absentia | ? |
| 22:40.36 | VampireZIM | i am curious how well it works with a cellphone bluetooth |
| 22:42.58 | TheMasterMind1 | VampireZIM: take a look at the zaurus.com/dev/board |
| 22:43.07 | TheMasterMind1 | there was some discussion on there about using it with other bluetooth devices |
| 22:43.20 | VampireZIM | cool |
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| 22:59.14 | VampireZIM | hmm, there are no real answers there |
| 22:59.22 | VampireZIM | only questions |
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