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| 00:03.28 | ljp-z | hmmm |
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| 03:52.03 | warmi | anyone here ? |
| 03:53.22 | mewyn | hey |
| 03:53.42 | warmi | hehe .. you are the only guy alive around here |
| 03:53.48 | warmi | staying home this holiday ? |
| 03:54.06 | mewyn | i'm at a friend's house right now. going home soon |
| 03:55.16 | warmi | ah ok ... well, it is a one f** boring weekend .. at least for me |
| 03:55.40 | mewyn | tomorrow i have the fun task of switching to rh9 on my server |
| 03:55.42 | mewyn | howso? |
| 03:56.09 | warmi | howso ? I don't know .... just boring |
| 03:56.19 | warmi | don't feel like doing anything ... |
| 03:56.24 | warmi | nothing interesting to watch |
| 03:56.26 | mewyn | ah. been there. |
| 03:56.29 | warmi | some days are just like that |
| 03:56.32 | mewyn | yah |
| 03:56.53 | Pendalar | is there a side for decent linux code snippets? |
| 03:57.17 | Pendalar | 80% of the sites out there are for windows even though they don't say til you dig into the code |
| 03:57.22 | Pendalar | starting to tick me off a bit |
| 03:57.27 | treke|home | Pendalar: yes |
| 03:57.31 | treke|home | Pendalar: freshmeat.net |
| 03:57.36 | treke|home | and sourceforge.net |
| 03:57.37 | treke|home | :p |
| 03:57.38 | mewyn | i've actually managed to do a lot this weekend. went to the taste yesterday, saw fireworks in itasca, had a swim earlier today, and a newlywed pair of friends of mine treated us to dinner at the outback :) |
| 03:58.00 | Pendalar | =-P those aren't snippets really |
| 03:58.15 | Pendalar | I just mean like web snippets etc.. just neat lil functions etc |
| 04:00.04 | mewyn | and right now, i'm making sure a few loose ends are up to snuff for tomorrow |
| 04:00.12 | mewyn | i /dont/ want to be cracked |
| 04:02.02 | treke|home | mewyn: hehe |
| 04:02.12 | treke|home | mewyn: My dad just called and mentioned it so I'm doing the same :p |
| 04:02.24 | warmi | Pendalar: with Linux there are tons of apps with src code available .. no need for websites with code snippets ( on windows that's the only way to learn stuff - there is hardly any source code available ) |
| 04:02.43 | Pendalar | heh I never realized how easy it is to crash IE |
| 04:03.15 | mewyn | treke: that's why i picked tomorrow to rebuild zelda |
| 04:03.33 | Pendalar | zelda as in the Nintendo series? |
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| 04:03.53 | warmi | ah fuck .. I am too lazy .. I think I will just shut down my web server tommorow |
| 04:04.31 | treke|home | I have no clue what crappy insecure scripts are hiding on there :p |
| 04:04.37 | warmi | hopefully they will go for hosted sites .. hitting one ISP web server can yield dozens of sites |
| 04:04.43 | mewyn | warmi: just as good a plan as any. |
| 04:05.01 | mewyn | warmi: they have to be unique domains |
| 04:05.03 | mewyn | no subs |
| 04:05.06 | Pendalar | heh I just came on.. I take it a new virus is supposed to hit tomorrow |
| 04:05.15 | Pendalar | working 12 hour shifts sucks |
| 04:05.24 | mewyn | i just read the rules (know your enemy) |
| 04:05.37 | mewyn | defacers-challenge.com |
| 04:06.05 | warmi | mewyn: yeah but ISP tend to have big servers hosting multiple sites .. once you have rooted the box you got them all |
| 04:06.14 | mewyn | yah, i' |
| 04:06.28 | mewyn | i'm not sure how that would count as far as this contest goes |
| 04:06.50 | warmi | well, will see |
| 04:07.20 | Pendalar | great.. |
| 04:07.29 | treke|home | and schools tend to be good targets |
| 04:07.45 | mewyn | yes |
| 04:08.00 | mewyn | i'm patched and my passwords are hardened |
| 04:08.04 | warmi | I don't what can I do .. I have only basic stuff running .. ftp, ssh, http |
| 04:08.17 | warmi | I mean , it is reasonably up to date ( couple of months) |
| 04:08.21 | treke|home | even though in this case, none of the students have servers :p |
| 04:08.28 | mewyn | warmi: what OS? |
| 04:08.36 | warmi | Linux of course |
| 04:08.44 | mewyn | distro/version? |
| 04:09.01 | warmi | RH ... I run RH update for everything couple of months ago .. |
| 04:09.15 | mewyn | two or so should be good |
| 04:09.28 | warmi | run - ran |
| 04:09.32 | treke|home | plus a debian stable box |
| 04:09.40 | mewyn | don't think there was any ssh, ssl, httpd, or other exploits in that time |
| 04:09.53 | warmi | I am going to run nmap tonight and see what it says |
| 04:09.59 | mewyn | cant remember when the last ssl one was |
| 04:10.07 | mewyn | i know it was fairly recent |
| 04:10.22 | warmi | I was hit by ssl problem couple of months ago |
| 04:10.29 | warmi | ah .. had to reinstall my box |
| 04:11.14 | warmi | actually more like 8 months ago or so |
| 04:11.42 | warmi | the safest thing would be to run some obscure OS |
| 04:11.53 | warmi | like a fucking VMS or some such |
| 04:12.18 | mewyn | nah, security through obscurity is the worst thing in the world |
| 04:13.46 | mewyn | and i wouldn't wish VMS on anyone |
| 04:14.03 | warmi | that's not the point -- statistically speaking , the chances that someone will be familiar with your OS enough to crack it would be much better if you were running something rare |
| 04:14.20 | warmi | actually, much smaller |
| 04:14.29 | Pendalar | https://www.securitymetrics.com why not use a couple of free can sites? |
| 04:14.33 | warmi | not 'much better" ;-) |
| 04:14.35 | Pendalar | cant remember the other ones |
| 04:14.35 | treke|home | particularly someone engagin in the defacers challenge :p |
| 04:14.37 | warmi | anyway, you get my point |
| 04:14.56 | mewyn | yah, it can help, but usually not as good as hardening your system |
| 04:15.10 | mewyn | right now i have a long random string as my root password |
| 04:15.20 | warmi | Pendalar : I don't think these are free |
| 04:15.29 | Pendalar | that one has a free one time scan |
| 04:15.35 | Pendalar | I did have a whole list of port scan sites.. |
| 04:15.39 | Pendalar | dunno where I put them |
| 04:15.54 | warmi | mewyn: yeah .. well, mine is a polish word with bunch of digits thrown in .. pretty much random as far as english speaking people are concerned |
| 04:15.56 | warmi | :-) |
| 04:16.40 | treke|home | yeah, but isnt the entire polish alphabet 8 characters? |
| 04:16.57 | warmi | hehehe |
| 04:17.44 | Pendalar | grc is your friend though |
| 04:17.54 | warmi | pszaczynski << crack that treke :-) |
| 04:18.06 | Pendalar | saki? |
| 04:18.13 | treke|home | warmi: first or last name? |
| 04:18.20 | mewyn | mine was japanese, but it could be cracked with an international dictionary attack |
| 04:18.29 | mewyn | but i'd notice a dictionary attack |
| 04:18.44 | Pendalar | just add ~ to the end of it |
| 04:18.48 | Pendalar | and be done with the crap =-P |
| 04:18.57 | Pendalar | most brute forces only do alpha numeric anyways |
| 04:19.03 | prh | anyone know if OZ will run on the 750? |
| 04:19.12 | treke|home | prh: It isnt supported yet |
| 04:19.20 | warmi | treke : last name of course .. first names are similar to other European names .... |
| 04:19.23 | mewyn | Pendalar: actually it takes very little to just add the one chars |
| 04:19.29 | treke|home | Pendalar: more importantly, who is going to be trying a dictionary attack |
| 04:19.31 | warmi | they all have latin (christian) heritage |
| 04:19.49 | mewyn | yah, tomorrow very little will be dict attacks |
| 04:19.53 | prh | treke|home: bah humbug ;O) |
| 04:20.12 | mewyn | dict attacks are only done with either local password databases, or a dedicated cracker |
| 04:20.47 | mewyn | and if your system is proper, you'd block the ip after a certian number of attempts, and block the account from a certian more |
| 04:21.00 | Pendalar | I doubt a normal brute force would find sd2~si2~ |
| 04:21.06 | Pendalar | it would take months on end |
| 04:21.38 | Pendalar | or you'd close root login window to a certain 5 minute span each day ;-) |
| 04:22.21 | Pendalar | I really wish I had found out about the contest sooner |
| 04:22.25 | warmi | ah .. I will just make backup of everything and screw them ... I can reimage my server rather quickly |
| 04:22.30 | Pendalar | too late to do a decent offsite backup =-d |
| 04:22.59 | mewyn | Pendalar: brute forces are all typable characters. |
| 04:23.05 | Pendalar | the offsite's upstream sucks dingo balls and has problems with that |
| 04:23.19 | Pendalar | mewyn: yes but each char they add to search, the longer the search takes |
| 04:23.26 | warmi | Pendalar: I host my stuff at home on DSL :-) |
| 04:23.35 | mewyn | pendalar: true, but if the cracker has time |
| 04:23.50 | Pendalar | by the time they add !@$#& etc... it grows to months of time |
| 04:23.53 | warmi | maybe this whole cracker-challenge is just bullshit |
| 04:23.56 | Pendalar | I'm talking about tomorrow ;-) |
| 04:24.09 | Pendalar | you can't brute force complex passwords in 6 hours or whatever it is |
| 04:24.18 | mewyn | i said earlier that they wouldn't be doing any dictionary attacks even tomorrow |
| 04:24.22 | Pendalar | unless you have a beowulf cluster with quad xeons each |
| 04:24.40 | warmi | if they hope to break into as many sites as possible they have to rely on known exploits |
| 04:24.50 | warmi | can't be just password cracking - that's too slow |
| 04:24.53 | mewyn | even then, you only have so much bandwidht, and most systems cause a wait state if the password is incorrect |
| 04:25.04 | Pendalar | I'd imagine plenty of them have already found targets |
| 04:25.11 | Pendalar | no most of it's ssh exploits |
| 04:25.17 | warmi | yeah, :-) |
| 04:25.26 | warmi | perhaps I will go and shut down my ssh deamon now |
| 04:25.39 | Pendalar | *grin* god that sucked, but was funny all the same |
| 04:25.44 | treke|home | I'd say most of them probably have already rooted the target boxes |
| 04:26.14 | warmi | hehehe |
| 04:26.25 | warmi | I say pull the f*** plug .. that will do it |
| 04:27.13 | mewyn | warmi: exactly what i'm doing :) |
| 04:27.14 | Pendalar | that'll teach em *bzzzzzz* |
| 04:27.30 | mewyn | perfect excuse to do that upgrade i've been meaning to do |
| 04:27.35 | Pendalar | yeah but say in the future these contests become daily.. |
| 04:27.45 | Pendalar | you going to keep it offline 24/7? |
| 04:27.47 | warmi | hehe ... see you later |
| 04:27.53 | treke|home | Pendalar: sounds good to me |
| 04:27.55 | warmi_away | will see tommorow |
| 04:27.57 | mewyn | bye |
| 04:28.13 | Pendalar | I used to think being unpluged was safe |
| 04:28.26 | Pendalar | but then my wife bought a power puff girl DVD which had a trojan in it |
| 04:28.44 | Pendalar | at that point, I went nuts, and cried for hours.. pondered life.. and took up smoking |
| 04:29.23 | Pendalar | maybe someone will hit efnet's web server ;-) |
| 04:29.42 | treke|home | orf freenode's |
| 04:29.55 | Pendalar | ssh ;-) they'll hear you |
| 04:30.39 | Pendalar | hard to shut down the site that long if you host paying customers.. |
| 04:30.49 | Pendalar | even saying no login pisses em off |
| 04:30.54 | Pendalar | and rightfully so in a way |
| 04:30.59 | mewyn | hrm. |
| 04:31.07 | mewyn | it seems kergoth tried to shut down my server |
| 04:31.49 | mewyn | i love sudo. if someone doesn't have access... "i'm telling root!" |
| 04:33.34 | Pendalar | I can shut down a few sites but I can't close all boxes |
| 04:33.39 | Pendalar | kinda annoying situation |
| 04:34.07 | mewyn | just secure it besst you can |
| 04:34.18 | mewyn | make sure patches are current |
| 04:34.21 | Pendalar | can't |
| 04:34.27 | mewyn | not root?" |
| 04:34.30 | Pendalar | the main box I'm worried about is a rackshack box |
| 04:34.33 | Pendalar | running ensim |
| 04:34.39 | mewyn | ensim? |
| 04:34.45 | Pendalar | you can't upgrade shit on RH+Ensim without the whole thing breaking |
| 04:34.57 | Pendalar | yeah it's a web panel thing but has it's fingers in all files.. |
| 04:34.59 | mewyn | shit |
| 04:35.12 | Pendalar | like you use httpd-ensim, not httpd (apache).. not php but php-ensim |
| 04:35.14 | mewyn | well, you may be screwed ther |
| 04:35.24 | Pendalar | you put in the regular versions, and it dies |
| 04:35.44 | Pendalar | so I can't secure it outside port restriction and closing remote logins |
| 04:36.18 | Pendalar | someone update the oz site.. I don't care what's posted.. just want to see something new |
| 04:36.20 | KhensU | Pendalar: you have a rackshack box too? cool. |
| 04:36.34 | Pendalar | it's not cool =-P unless you get a base install of RH or something |
| 04:36.41 | Pendalar | or get cpanel or plesk |
| 04:36.46 | Pendalar | ensim is a joke |
| 04:36.57 | KhensU | we installed debian. ;) |
| 04:37.13 | Pendalar | you did a distro change remotely? |
| 04:37.17 | KhensU | yup |
| 04:37.23 | Pendalar | that takes big balls, and a stupid brain |
| 04:37.36 | Pendalar | if it didn't come up after reboot, the RS admins would have laughed at you |
| 04:37.52 | Pendalar | I'd never do that heh |
| 04:38.08 | Pendalar | the odds of something going wrong, and if ssh doesn't come up.. man |
| 04:38.50 | KhensU | there was a howto somebody else did |
| 04:39.30 | treke|home | Pendalar: Wasnt my machine so it wasnt my ass if something went wrong :) |
| 04:42.01 | Pendalar | heh |
| 04:43.06 | Pendalar | getting a backup of my secondary box anyways.. |
| 04:43.09 | treke|home | although if you think about it, gentoo's entire install is pretty much the same as a remote install would be |
| 04:43.33 | Pendalar | I have never tried to do a remote install |
| 04:43.42 | Pendalar | and hope not to need to |
| 04:54.30 | treke|home | NeoTron: What is different in Bustem on the higher difficulty levels? |
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| 04:56.36 | NeoTron | treke|home: smaller pad, faster balls, upgrades last shorter / have less effect (dunno about downgrades tho) |
| 04:56.45 | treke|home | ah cool |
| 04:57.06 | treke|home | some were way way too easy :) |
| 04:58.19 | NeoTron | cool, seems like snails demo works |
| 04:59.16 | treke|home | I think at some points I just hit the ball once and the powerups did the rest |
| 04:59.35 | NeoTron | yes, some levels are like that |
| 04:59.48 | NeoTron | play on harder levels and it will NOT be as easy |
| 04:59.55 | treke|home | I'll try that |
| 04:59.57 | NeoTron | still some levels definitely play by themself. :) |
| 05:01.55 | NeoTron | to fix any memory errors and crap it has |
| 05:02.00 | NeoTron | plenty of mismatch new[] / delete |
| 05:03.30 | Pendalar | what was the company that made snails again? |
| 05:03.41 | Pendalar | the PPC version |
| 05:04.01 | NeoTron | pdamill |
| 05:04.05 | NeoTron | or Futech Ltd or what not |
| 05:04.17 | NeoTron | (looking at handango it say Futech Ltd) |
| 05:04.28 | Pendalar | hm I thought it was something else |
| 05:06.50 | Pendalar | grr 3gb backup |
| 05:06.56 | Pendalar | that'll take awhile to transfer |
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| 05:37.22 | mutexer | NeoTron: are all your games listed ports or did you write some of them yourself? |
| 05:46.31 | NeoTron | Eligo is the only one I wrote so far |
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| 08:29.48 | kybu | hi |
| 08:29.52 | XavierXeon | hello |
| 08:29.57 | kybu | hi xavier |
| 08:30.03 | kybu | how are you? |
| 08:30.20 | XavierXeon | had some problems with my feet but i am better now |
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| 08:31.16 | XavierXeon | any progress with your desktop iqnotes version ? |
| 08:31.33 | yeiazel | how is "opie" pronounced in english ? |
| 08:31.51 | kybu | XavierXeon nope, i got no time :( |
| 08:32.12 | XavierXeon | i know the "got no time" problem very well :) |
| 08:32.40 | kybu | yeah, i want to fork, but my os dosn't support this feature |
| 08:32.59 | XavierXeon | yeiazel: dont know but i like to have a granfather on my pda |
| 08:33.22 | XavierXeon | kybu: you mean process forking ? |
| 08:34.41 | kybu | XavierXeon i mean human forking in the reasonable time :) |
| 08:35.22 | XavierXeon | kybu: you just need to introduce the 36h day so you have more spare time |
| 08:36.47 | kybu | that's not bad too :) |
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| 08:47.17 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/ <= beta version of the Snails Demo is now out |
| 08:53.10 | NeoTron | hrm, the beta message is a big.. strict |
| 08:55.11 | yeiazel | excluding zaurus, yopy, ipaq, simpad, palm and cassiopeia, do you know other PDAs ? |
| 08:55.27 | XavierXeon | to me beta means : may not work and may damage your system |
| 08:55.30 | subdue | big? |
| 08:55.39 | NeoTron | XavierXeon: well, mostly may have bugs |
| 08:55.53 | subdue | NeoTron: nice pic |
| 08:56.02 | NeoTron | and for you it just means a popup and an expiring binary |
| 08:56.21 | NeoTron | subdue: clarify. :P |
| 08:56.21 | subdue | (gets one a little dizzy, bit it gives an idea of what's what) |
| 08:56.32 | subdue | scr1 |
| 08:56.37 | NeoTron | the animated one? |
| 08:56.39 | subdue | snails |
| 08:56.42 | subdue | yeah |
| 08:57.10 | subdue | you've been working hard :) |
| 08:57.32 | NeoTron | well, more like I haven't. :P |
| 08:57.41 | NeoTron | both DB2 and Snails have been "mostly done" for months |
| 08:57.59 | subdue | ah, you also have regular screen shots |
| 08:58.13 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 08:58.35 | subdue | lol, teeth |
| 08:58.40 | NeoTron | it's definitely a cool game. gfx rocks. |
| 09:01.59 | NeoTron | gesh, it's 2am |
| 09:06.07 | NeoTron | found a minor bug |
| 09:06.09 | NeoTron | ah well |
| 09:06.43 | subdue | heh |
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| 09:10.47 | NeoTron | ah well, a later time to fix tha |
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| 09:34.30 | George- | woot |
| 09:34.32 | George- | hello |
| 09:36.53 | George- | !seen mark |
| 09:58.32 | George- | ibot seen mark |
| 09:58.32 | | mark <~mark@s.westcott.freeuk.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 9d 16h 30m 32s ago, saying: 'how you doing?'. |
| 09:58.44 | George- | sugar seen mark |
| 09:58.46 | Sugar | George-: I last saw mark quitting IRC 219h 15m 23s ago. |
| 09:59.03 | George- | ibot eat me |
| 09:59.04 | | ACTION eats george- and falls over dead |
| 09:59.12 | George- | ibot die |
| 09:59.13 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 09:59.25 | George- | ibot kergoth |
| 09:59.26 | | i heard kergoth is at kergoth@handhelds.org, or that openzaurus guy |
| 09:59.40 | George- | ibot bleh |
| 09:59.41 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, George- |
| 09:59.45 | George- | ibot botfight |
| 09:59.45 | | George- stop it! |
| 09:59.49 | George- | argh |
| 09:59.51 | George- | nooo |
| 10:23.28 | HCl | hm |
| 10:23.50 | HCl | does anybody know how servicable the 5500g is? |
| 10:24.09 | HCl | the tip of my stylus broke off... and its stuck inside. |
| 10:24.37 | HCl | and i dont really want to screw it open only to find out its inaccessable |
| 10:30.58 | XavierXeon | HCl: i had the same problem and i had to screw my zaurus open |
| 10:31.04 | HCl | ok |
| 10:31.13 | HCl | so its servicable in that area? great :) |
| 10:31.22 | XavierXeon | not really |
| 10:31.37 | HCl | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.40 | HCl | okay |
| 10:31.53 | XavierXeon | i had it halfway open and couldnt get it to open completely and at some point the stylus tip fell out |
| 10:32.06 | HCl | ok.. |
| 10:32.11 | HCl | sounds fun :S |
| 10:32.19 | HCl | any pointers on which screws to get out? |
| 10:32.28 | XavierXeon | all |
| 10:32.48 | HCl | ok.... thanks :S |
| 10:33.12 | XavierXeon | wcept the ones holding the keyboard, but do not forget the ones in the battery ompartment |
| 10:33.49 | XavierXeon | s/wcept/except && s /ompartment/compartment/ |
| 10:35.21 | George- | HCl: it's easy to take it apart |
| 10:35.32 | George- | HCl: just don't lose the screws :) |
| 10:35.46 | George- | HCl: there are the obvious screws around the side and in the battery compartment |
| 10:36.09 | George- | HCl: then there are two more underneath the front sliding panel thingy (gotta take it off) |
| 10:38.10 | HCl | k... |
| 10:38.13 | HCl | thanks |
| 11:03.05 | HCl | how do i remove the slide panel.. i unscrewed all screws and it wont come lose.. |
| 11:03.21 | George- | you have to bend it a bit |
| 11:03.29 | HCl | ick, ok |
| 11:24.14 | HCl | ok.. i must commend sharp for making the zaurus so servicable |
| 11:24.31 | George- | sarcasm? |
| 11:24.38 | HCl | no, actually o.o |
| 11:24.58 | HCl | the screws were a bit tight.. but i got it open perfectly |
| 11:25.11 | HCl | removed the point and put it back together :) |
| 11:25.39 | George- | :D |
| 11:25.57 | George- | it's not as easy as my tibook, but easier than a Compaq Presario |
| 11:26.01 | HCl | heh |
| 11:26.07 | George- | and not as easy as a Psion 5/5mx |
| 11:26.50 | HCl | now i have to find a store that'll ship the zaurus stylus to europe.. |
| 11:30.03 | HCl | i dont suppose anyone knows one? |
| 11:30.13 | HCl | perhaps i just need a better superglue. |
| 11:31.50 | yeiazel | putting superglue is not enough : the tip has fallen too deep in the hole |
| 11:32.03 | yeiazel | you have to unscrew the other end of the stylus |
| 11:32.25 | yeiazel | just keep it as less as srewed as possible |
| 11:32.43 | yeiazel | (just to be able to pull the stylus afterwards) |
| 11:32.53 | yeiazel | and use superglue |
| 11:33.02 | yeiazel | (I've used loctite superglue-3) |
| 11:33.52 | yeiazel | but I've just seen you were able to open the z :) |
| 11:34.23 | HCl | my primary problem is getting a new stylus.. |
| 11:34.38 | HCl | i havent been able to find ANY store who'll ship them to europe |
| 11:34.42 | yeiazel | I'm using the same stylus though... superglue works well :) |
| 11:34.47 | HCl | heh |
| 11:34.51 | HCl | i superglued it before.. |
| 11:35.00 | HCl | i guess i need a better superglue.. o.o |
| 11:35.04 | yeiazel | :) |
| 11:35.27 | yeiazel | http://www.xtops.de/xtops_acc_pda_replacement.html |
| 11:35.47 | yeiazel | replacement stylus : 14 EUR |
| 11:37.10 | yeiazel | but 30 EUR shipping :/ |
| 11:38.56 | HCl | hmm |
| 11:40.26 | HCl | the url is complaining about my language settings o.o; |
| 11:43.42 | yeiazel | oh |
| 11:44.13 | HCl | ok |
| 11:44.16 | HCl | works |
| 11:45.26 | HCl | thanks! :) |
| 11:47.12 | yeiazel | :) |
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| 11:50.59 | HCl | their payment goes odd :/ |
| 11:58.54 | HCl | oh, another thing |
| 11:59.06 | HCl | whats the best way to clean the touchscreen ? |
| 11:59.56 | yeiazel | not have touched it :) |
| 12:00.50 | amnesia | hmm don't use a screen protector? |
| 12:01.00 | amnesia | don't u use, i mean |
| 12:03.14 | HCl | sure, but it gets dirty with dust anyways. |
| 12:03.42 | HCl | and i touched it here and there while unscrewing it.. |
| 12:03.53 | amnesia | simply use a wet tissue |
| 12:03.55 | amnesia | clean it |
| 12:04.43 | HCl | k |
| 12:04.59 | amnesia | is there a development channel? |
| 12:05.26 | HCl | theres the openzaurus channel? |
| 12:05.36 | HCl | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.40 | HCl | dd* |
| 12:05.43 | amnesia | but i am not using oz and oz is not supported in sl-5600 yet |
| 12:05.52 | HCl | ah.. |
| 12:05.56 | HCl | yea.. |
| 12:05.59 | HCl | dunno then |
| 12:06.02 | amnesia | ok. |
| 12:06.12 | HCl | 5600 has a totally different architecture.. |
| 12:06.22 | amnesia | some changes here and there |
| 12:06.35 | HCl | different cpu.. |
| 12:06.43 | HCl | its not an arm, right? |
| 12:06.52 | amnesia | it's isn't? |
| 12:07.01 | yeiazel | it is |
| 12:07.06 | amnesia | it is |
| 12:07.08 | HCl | oh |
| 12:07.17 | HCl | ok |
| 12:07.17 | amnesia | just that the programs are running as a normal user |
| 12:07.19 | yeiazel | StrongARM = arm v4, XScale = arm v5 |
| 12:07.21 | amnesia | faster cpu |
| 12:07.27 | HCl | mm. |
| 12:07.30 | amnesia | runs samba by default |
| 12:07.37 | amnesia | no ftp now, more space |
| 12:07.39 | amnesia | new apps |
| 12:07.46 | amnesia | new format for storing todo/address, etc. |
| 12:07.52 | HCl | heh |
| 12:07.54 | amnesia | with mic and speaker |
| 12:08.00 | amnesia | can't work with qtopiadesktop |
| 12:08.02 | HCl | i dont really use my zaurus as a pda ;p |
| 12:08.13 | HCl | more like.. portable computer.. |
| 12:08.20 | amnesia | i wonder why u unscrew urs |
| 12:08.30 | amnesia | add leds like the japanese? :) |
| 12:08.38 | HCl | to get the tip of my broken stylus out.. |
| 12:08.53 | amnesia | do u have any idea how i can plug my keyboard to it? :) |
| 12:09.00 | amnesia | if i can, i can do programming on the road |
| 12:09.14 | HCl | there are infrared keyboards and usb keyboards available.. |
| 12:09.24 | amnesia | how to plug usb? |
| 12:09.30 | amnesia | infrared.... not so good...... painful |
| 12:09.43 | HCl | check the sharp site, i dont use it myself |
| 12:09.56 | amnesia | sigh nvm. it means spend more money |
| 12:10.00 | amnesia | which i dun wan |
| 12:10.05 | amnesia | why? u dun speak english? |
| 12:10.17 | HCl | the alt gr key has loads of potential |
| 12:10.24 | HCl | no, i want more keys o.o |
| 12:10.29 | amnesia | hmmm. |
| 12:10.33 | amnesia | such as? |
| 12:10.44 | HCl | the | |
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| 12:10.49 | HCl | the ctrl |
| 12:10.51 | amnesia | hmm there isn't? |
| 12:11.06 | amnesia | heh u r right |
| 12:11.10 | HCl | its under the space bar with function sometimes.. i think |
| 12:11.10 | amnesia | how to remap btw. |
| 12:11.19 | HCl | its linux |
| 12:11.27 | HCl | everything can be altered :) |
| 12:11.27 | amnesia | lol u r right again |
| 12:11.38 | amnesia | i feel like reformatting it again. |
| 12:12.06 | amnesia | maybe i can write a backup script... think i will do that.... and share with other 5600 users. |
| 12:12.35 | amnesia | btw can u tell me more abt oz? |
| 12:12.49 | HCl | euh |
| 12:13.07 | HCl | you'd have more chance asking in #openembedded, but ask ahead o.o |
| 12:13.45 | amnesia | hmm........ maybe i should find out more before i ask. |
| 12:13.57 | amnesia | just that i can't play it on my pda... until our full-time oz developer |
| 12:14.00 | amnesia | port it over. |
| 12:14.11 | HCl | nod |
| 12:14.34 | HCl | 2.4.6 is crappy... |
| 12:14.38 | amnesia | do u use sdcard or cfcard? |
| 12:14.44 | HCl | yu |
| 12:14.50 | amnesia | oh 5500 user. |
| 12:14.56 | HCl | my sd card holds most of my linux system |
| 12:15.01 | amnesia | oh... |
| 12:15.09 | amnesia | i want to get but it is expensive |
| 12:15.17 | HCl | mmm :/ |
| 12:15.20 | George- | HCl: is kergoth dead or something? |
| 12:15.28 | amnesia | 128mb -> SGD$99... hmm uSD$44.50 |
| 12:15.36 | George- | HCl: I mean... OZ beens stagnant for ooh, let's think... 3 months? :P |
| 12:15.46 | HCl | my zaurus costs 810 euro in total :/ |
| 12:15.48 | amnesia | George- :-( |
| 12:15.56 | HCl | George-: it hasnt.. |
| 12:15.57 | amnesia | HCl convert to usd pls... |
| 12:16.02 | HCl | buildroot keeps getting updated |
| 12:16.04 | HCl | hold on |
| 12:16.18 | George- | HCl: hrmm, I suppose... but I can't access buildroot at school :) |
| 12:16.32 | HCl | HCl: EUR 810.00 = USD 930.852 |
| 12:16.38 | HCl | hehe |
| 12:16.40 | amnesia | hcl wtf!!!! |
| 12:16.43 | amnesia | hcl so expensive?!? |
| 12:16.54 | amnesia | hcl guess how much 5500 cost here now :) |
| 12:16.56 | HCl | zaurus was 320 + 80 shipping |
| 12:17.04 | HCl | my 1 gb cf was 320 |
| 12:17.14 | HCl | and my 256mb sd was 92 |
| 12:17.14 | amnesia | 1gb?!?...... |
| 12:17.20 | HCl | yup :D |
| 12:17.23 | amnesia | ......... |
| 12:17.33 | amnesia | ............. |
| 12:17.37 | amnesia | fast slow? |
| 12:17.38 | amnesia | normal?: |
| 12:17.48 | HCl | normal |
| 12:18.10 | amnesia | i bought my 5600 for usd$350 |
| 12:18.32 | amnesia | 5500 cost abt <usd$200 |
| 12:19.02 | HCl | us is cheap, heh |
| 12:19.04 | ljp_laptop | I bought my 5000d's for $0 |
| 12:19.09 | amnesia | i am not in us |
| 12:19.15 | amnesia | ljp_laptop okokokokok :) |
| 12:19.20 | HCl | heh |
| 12:19.32 | amnesia | HCl if not, why would i use SGD :) |
| 12:19.47 | ljp_laptop | actually, the first one even sent me on a vacation and then handed me one |
| 12:20.06 | amnesia | ljp_laptop cool. |
| 12:20.17 | amnesia | u guys have homepages? |
| 12:20.37 | HCl | mm. |
| 12:20.47 | amnesia | mm |
| 12:20.49 | HCl | it doesnt have much on it |
| 12:20.57 | amnesia | cool, show me :P |
| 12:21.02 | HCl | a script to create divx that can be played on zaurus.. |
| 12:21.08 | amnesia | hmm |
| 12:21.18 | HCl | and some stuff about my laptop |
| 12:21.41 | ljp_laptop | homepage? no. web site? yes |
| 12:21.59 | HCl | www.snt.utwente.nl/~michiel/ |
| 12:22.39 | amnesia | ljp_laptop website pls? |
| 12:22.49 | amnesia | HCl i am bored... i want to visit :) |
| 12:22.53 | ljp_laptop | why? you a spammer? |
| 12:22.59 | amnesia | i am not. |
| 12:23.02 | ljp_laptop | http://llornkcor.com |
| 12:23.04 | amnesia | i am insulted. |
| 12:23.09 | ljp_laptop | :) |
| 12:23.16 | amnesia | heh |
| 12:24.11 | amnesia | nice websites u guyts |
| 12:24.24 | George- | http://zorian.ath.cx |
| 12:24.30 | amnesia | u wrote a lot of s/w! |
| 12:24.50 | amnesia | http://www.eugeneteo.net/ |
| 12:25.25 | ljp_laptop | actually, this is my homepage http://slashdot.org |
| 12:25.36 | amnesia | ic |
| 12:25.51 | ljp_laptop | ok. not really |
| 12:25.54 | amnesia | :) |
| 12:26.05 | ljp_laptop | this is mine: http://www.trolltech.com |
| 12:26.13 | ljp_laptop | ok, not really again |
| 12:26.17 | George- | ljp is in the trolltech qt3 propoganda video :) |
| 12:26.30 | amnesia | George- heh |
| 12:26.39 | ljp_laptop | and on the brochures |
| 12:26.58 | amnesia | George- u r young |
| 12:27.03 | ljp_laptop | and they liked me so much, they hired me |
| 12:27.06 | amnesia | ljp_laptop i have not watched the video... |
| 12:27.10 | ljp_laptop | george is 12 |
| 12:27.20 | amnesia | nice. |
| 12:27.28 | ljp_laptop | and female |
| 12:27.40 | amnesia | lol |
| 12:27.57 | amnesia | when i was 12, i play marbles |
| 12:28.02 | amnesia | catch grasshoppers |
| 12:28.07 | amnesia | watch smurf on tv |
| 12:28.12 | amnesia | there isn't internet |
| 12:28.16 | ljp_laptop | I played with girls. always been a horn-dog |
| 12:29.11 | amnesia | heh |
| 12:29.17 | George- | no I'm not |
| 12:29.21 | George- | I'm 15 and I'm male :P |
| 12:29.37 | amnesia | oh.... so u r a shemale?!? |
| 12:29.39 | amnesia | :-) |
| 12:29.45 | George- | amnesia: you played with your marbles? |
| 12:30.01 | amnesia | George- be a gentleman;. |
| 12:30.31 | George- | ok, I'm off |
| 12:30.33 | George- | into OS 9 I go |
| 12:32.15 | ljp_laptop | he's a 12 year old female thats bald |
| 12:32.25 | ljp_laptop | oh, he left. dang it |
| 12:32.39 | amnesia | lol |
| 12:32.53 | amnesia | ljp_laptop which country r u from |
| 12:32.56 | ljp_laptop | he's fun to poke fun at |
| 12:33.02 | ljp_laptop | US |
| 12:33.14 | ljp_laptop | soon to be in .au |
| 12:33.16 | amnesia | cool |
| 12:33.19 | amnesia | .au? |
| 12:33.25 | ljp_laptop | australia |
| 12:33.27 | amnesia | that would be near me :) |
| 12:33.49 | ljp_laptop | ya - waiting on a work visa |
| 12:34.03 | amnesia | working where? |
| 12:34.08 | amnesia | which part of ozzie |
| 12:34.38 | ljp_laptop | brisbane working for Trolltech Pty Ltd |
| 12:34.45 | amnesia | cool |
| 12:34.51 | amnesia | i hope they love me too when i graduate |
| 12:35.56 | ljp_laptop | :D |
| 12:36.05 | ljp_laptop | I never gradulated from university |
| 12:36.10 | amnesia | but it is still a long way to go.... |
| 12:36.25 | amnesia | ljp_laptop well... we have a different work culture here... they look at qualifications here :-( |
| 12:37.31 | ljp_laptop | where you at? |
| 12:37.41 | amnesia | .sg |
| 12:38.26 | amnesia | singapore. |
| 12:38.29 | ljp_laptop | ahhh |
| 12:38.35 | amnesia | =) |
| 12:38.44 | ljp_laptop | heh you had me googling |
| 12:38.55 | amnesia | hehe =p |
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| 12:40.17 | amnesia | how long have u used zaurus? i am new to it. i was previously a palmos user. |
| 12:41.15 | amnesia | haha i want to teach guitar too :-p |
| 12:42.18 | ljp_laptop | I have nad one since december 6, 1002 |
| 12:42.20 | ljp_laptop | 2001 |
| 12:42.22 | ljp_laptop | hehe |
| 12:42.33 | amnesia | 1002 :-p |
| 12:42.46 | amnesia | how is the feeling of using opie? |
| 12:42.47 | ljp_laptop | ya, that version was realllllllly slow |
| 12:42.54 | amnesia | is there any relation between opie and oz? |
| 12:43.07 | amnesia | hehe.. i tried my dad's 5500 (i converted him to use linux) and it is SLOW :) |
| 12:43.09 | ljp_laptop | yes. opie is the gui that oz uses |
| 12:43.22 | amnesia | cool! i want to develop apps for z but haven't thought of one. |
| 12:44.00 | ljp_laptop | well, you could always look at opie apps, and improve them. we are always looking for more people to work on them |
| 12:45.17 | amnesia | i would ... when oz is ported to 5600.... |
| 12:45.24 | amnesia | my dad wouldn't let me touch his 5500 :-( |
| 12:45.27 | amnesia | AWWWWWWWWWWW. |
| 12:46.31 | amnesia | opie looks darn cool |
| 12:46.38 | amnesia | is it possible to run opie on Z? |
| 12:47.31 | amnesia | another qn. is there such a thing as an emulator+rom? |
| 12:47.49 | ljp_laptop | on sharp rom? not really. on oz? yes |
| 12:48.08 | ljp_laptop | emulator for what? |
| 12:48.10 | amnesia | how abt emulator for me to develop? |
| 12:48.26 | amnesia | u know... an Z or OZ emulator where i can load the rom, and run my apps there |
| 12:48.33 | ljp_laptop | oh, thatsw done native x86 via qvfb, virtual frame buffer |
| 12:48.45 | amnesia | hmmmm |
| 12:48.49 | amnesia | any article on this? |
| 12:48.58 | ljp_laptop | yes, check the opie wiki |
| 12:49.06 | ljp_laptop | http://opie.handhelds.org |
| 12:49.33 | ljp_laptop | theres a few pages telling you how to set it all up |
| 12:49.55 | amnesia | ok cool! |
| 12:49.58 | amnesia | thanks for the pointer |
| 12:50.10 | amnesia | i give u a treat if u r in .sg |
| 12:50.17 | ljp_laptop | :) |
| 12:50.21 | amnesia | :-) |
| 12:50.34 | ljp_laptop | just tell the .au immigration to rubber stamp my visa app |
| 12:51.08 | amnesia | heh. i think it should be easy isn't it? |
| 12:51.11 | amnesia | u don't have SARS :) |
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| 12:53.55 | ljp_laptop | yes. just takes time. |
| 12:54.04 | ljp_laptop | no we dont have sars |
| 12:54.14 | ljp_laptop | at least what we hear |
| 12:55.16 | amnesia | ok :) |
| 12:55.18 | amnesia | hold on |
| 12:55.22 | amnesia | titanic |
| 12:55.25 | amnesia | nude woman |
| 12:55.27 | amnesia | tv |
| 12:55.29 | amnesia | hold! |
| 12:56.58 | amnesia | back |
| 12:57.00 | amnesia | :) |
| 12:58.31 | amnesia | no SARS is good news. |
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| 13:15.19 | HCl | gah |
| 13:15.32 | George- | gahExtreme |
| 13:15.42 | HCl | the zaurus keyboard/screen gets annoying when you got a problem |
| 13:16.01 | HCl | for some reason my gcc complains about unresolved symbols.. |
| 13:16.10 | HCl | yet when i check with nm the symbols are there |
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| 15:23.59 | zedkatuf | ...just looking for some info on how to get samba connexion working on my linux desktop...I'm connected to my zaurus via usbnet kernel module, so the zaurus has an IP addy...shh works fine...I just get a "connection refused" |
| 15:24.22 | zedkatuf | ...when I try to do a samba mount via the linux box |
| 15:24.59 | ljp-z | configure security settings app? |
| 15:26.15 | zedkatuf | on the zaurus.....lemme just check |
| 15:29.02 | zedkatuf | hmmm...do you mean sthng else..the security settings app on the zaurus just seems to enable/disable a password at startup.......mebbe it's sthng to do with my smb.conf file.....I better to do some more rtfm mebbe :P |
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| 15:45.24 | M0d | anyone ever found a decent case for a 5500? one that isn't 'french designed leather?' |
| 15:45.46 | mewyn | italian designed? |
| 15:46.05 | yeiazel | lol |
| 15:46.21 | yeiazel | what's wrong with french design ? :) |
| 15:46.22 | M0d | i'm not very particular about which country designs it, since it's just a case, not my shoes |
| 15:46.51 | M0d | covertec is pimping the french angle, like it's a decision maker for me |
| 15:47.07 | M0d | ignore the zaurus everyone, look at my *french designed* case! |
| 15:47.21 | yeiazel | LOL ok :) |
| 15:47.54 | yeiazel | http://thepouch.co.uk/sharp/zaurus/ ? |
| 15:48.24 | M0d | yup that looks like exactly what i was looking for, thanks |
| 15:48.37 | yeiazel | (seems expensive and crappy) |
| 15:48.49 | yeiazel | said by a ZaurusFr user :) |
| 15:49.00 | yeiazel | see http://www.zaurusfr.org/magasins, the very last part |
| 15:49.14 | yeiazel | there are some urls |
| 15:49.37 | M0d | cheap and crappy would be best |
| 15:51.01 | ljp-z | my pocket is cheap cover |
| 15:51.04 | yeiazel | :) |
| 15:51.12 | yeiazel | I had the "Metal & Leather Suit for Zaurus SL5500 Portfolio Model" |
| 15:51.22 | yeiazel | from extreme-limit |
| 15:51.24 | yeiazel | it sucks |
| 15:51.24 | yeiazel | :) |
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| 16:34.18 | amnesia | hmm |
| 16:34.27 | amnesia | i wrote a tutorial on 5600 on debian |
| 16:34.36 | amnesia | no one interested huh |
| 16:34.50 | amnesia | nvm, post it tmr. |
| 16:34.55 | amnesia | good night |
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| 17:48.49 | Pungent | what is the french word for 'case' ? |
| 17:49.09 | Pungent | god I do not understand French |
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| 18:16.11 | _Psycho | pungent case ? caisse ? |
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| 18:20.41 | pedro | why buy CF and not SD? A good reason, please. |
| 18:21.34 | phoen][x | CF what? |
| 18:21.39 | phoen][x | memory? |
| 18:21.41 | _Psycho | less expensive a bit more faster for the zaurus than sd |
| 18:21.43 | madeddie | CF is faster and seems more reliable |
| 18:22.01 | madeddie | anyway, CF slot is far too valuable |
| 18:22.07 | madeddie | just go with MMC |
| 18:22.08 | phoen][x | nifty if your SD slot it already in use? |
| 18:22.12 | pedro | phoen][x: memory, memory |
| 18:22.37 | phoen][x | pedro: for flashing the Z? |
| 18:23.05 | pedro | oh my g'd, the good question it's about MMC or SD cards. |
| 18:23.43 | madeddie | ow, well, MMC, good enough, but usually cheaper, if you can get SD cheap, go for that, bit faster, end |
| 18:23.51 | pedro | phoen][x: i think you don't know isn't possible flashing with other cards. |
| 18:24.20 | _Psycho | for 5500 |
| 18:24.38 | _Psycho | you can flash with SD on a C7xX |
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| 18:25.05 | pedro | well I haven't one. no problem ;-( |
| 18:25.39 | madeddie | g'd? are you jewish? |
| 18:25.48 | pedro | and people have good (?) experience with ibm microdrive. |
| 18:26.20 | pedro | madeddie: are you racist? what's about jewish people? |
| 18:27.04 | madeddie | ehm, i was just wondering, sicko, why would i be racist if i'm wondering about someone's religious beliefs? |
| 18:27.44 | pedro | well, no problem about my faith or your faith. do you knonw? |
| 18:27.48 | madeddie | it's just that i usually get some b'day cards from jewish friends and they usually give me g'ds grace instead of god and i just wondered if people outside europe did the same |
| 18:27.56 | madeddie | do i know what? |
| 18:29.00 | pedro | sorry, no problem about faith. this it's a private thing. and i don't like (i hate) proselitism. |
| 18:29.08 | madeddie | hehe |
| 18:29.38 | pedro | translate, please. i can't unserstand 'chill pill'. |
| 18:29.55 | madeddie | ah well, i'm used to it though, especially talking to israeli's and americans :) even though i'm the most tolerant caucausian in the world :) |
| 18:30.03 | madeddie | eh |
| 18:30.13 | madeddie | most tolerant caucausian atheist anarchist |
| 18:30.15 | madeddie | :) |
| 18:30.50 | pedro | well. i haven't problem with people. never about faith or nor faith... |
| 18:31.28 | madeddie | well okay, then maybe you could not imply somebody being racist when they ask something, you could ask _why_ i asked, that'd be bit more polite :) |
| 18:31.51 | treke|home | pedro: It means calm down and don't jump to conclusions |
| 18:32.12 | madeddie | ah, don |
| 18:32.26 | madeddie | don't worry, i think it's more a communication problem |
| 18:32.52 | pedro | i need some information about CF, SD, MMC an microdrive. sorry, i know my expression it's nor exactly friendly. |
| 18:33.08 | madeddie | anyways, religion isn't really a zaurus thing, although, somebody might port e-bible from the palm to the zaurus |
| 18:33.22 | madeddie | pedro: don't worry, didn't mean it so bad |
| 18:33.47 | pedro | but, sometimes people hate people with that. |
| 18:33.54 | madeddie | anyway, CF is in my opinion always best for memory, cheaper and relatively fast, but somewhat bigger and the CF slot is better used for other things |
| 18:34.37 | madeddie | pedro: with a bit of rude expression capabilities? ah, no worry, i won't hate anybody i don't know |
| 18:34.48 | pedro | that's the question. WiFi cards, for example. you need this port for other cards. |
| 18:35.00 | treke|home | madeddie: Darn. It's quite a bit of fun |
| 18:35.29 | madeddie | treke|home: hehe, what? talking religion? or just some irc-mudslinging? :) |
| 18:35.38 | treke|home | madeddie: Hating people at random |
| 18:35.44 | madeddie | ah :) |
| 18:36.24 | madeddie | pedro: true, on the zaurus, there's no SDIO, so all IO cards "must" be CF |
| 18:36.32 | pedro | and what's about microdrive. i read maybe dangerous cause the high temperature. |
| 18:36.37 | madeddie | although there's a bluetooth module attachable to the sync port |
| 18:37.09 | madeddie | pedro: nah, i used 2, just don't keep it running in your pocket or closed bag, it gets hot, but not too hot |
| 18:37.15 | madeddie | the power drainage is worse |
| 18:37.20 | phoen][x | madeddie: wasnt there a blue sd card? |
| 18:37.38 | madeddie | yeah, SDIO, but it doesn't work on the zaurus |
| 18:37.50 | treke|home | phoen][x: You can only use SD memory cards on zaurus's |
| 18:37.51 | pedro | but sharp recommended at the homepage. and the power consume is too high? |
| 18:37.51 | madeddie | although i'm not sure if it's a hardware or driver issue, i fear the first |
| 18:37.58 | phoen][x | madeddie: bugger |
| 18:38.03 | treke|home | madeddie: Both |
| 18:38.11 | madeddie | pedro: it's very high yes |
| 18:38.19 | phoen][x | treke|home: ah well, i prefer wlan anyways |
| 18:38.45 | madeddie | treke|home: too bad, if the hardware supported it, i could work on the driver problem |
| 18:38.55 | pedro | well, if we talk about priZes... |
| 18:38.58 | treke|home | madeddie: Not without an NDA you couldnt :p |
| 18:39.04 | madeddie | i've got a 5500, how about the 5600, does it have a SDIO slot as far as you know? |
| 18:39.28 | madeddie | treke|home: sure i can, it's called reverse engineering |
| 18:39.31 | treke|home | madeddie: Dunno. Probabably not. |
| 18:39.41 | madeddie | or, is the security stuff closly linked to the IO stuff? |
| 18:39.55 | flipppy | well, you could, you just aren't likely to be real successful |
| 18:40.16 | pedro | do you know any webpage with a prices comparaison CF, SD, MMC and microdrive? |
| 18:40.20 | madeddie | hehe, well, a bit succesfull would be enough, i want to use the SDIO camera that's coming out, it's way kewl |
| 18:40.57 | madeddie | anyway, i'll have bad luck and i'll give up sooner or later |
| 18:40.58 | treke|home | one of the big sdio devices is that no one has written drivers for the controller or the devices :p |
| 18:41.35 | treke|home | big problems for sdio devices |
| 18:41.46 | flipppy | nod, you'd have to write replacement drivers, and then ones for the devices |
| 18:42.03 | flipppy | and no one has written replacement sd storage drivers (to my knowledge) |
| 18:42.19 | madeddie | no, well, not complete anyway, i've seen some partial code |
| 18:45.07 | madeddie | ah, i'm toughtalking anyway, took me 3 months fixing the driver code for my webcam and now it still hogs 70% of my dual celeron |
| 18:46.15 | pedro | madeddie: sorry. have a good week or hashavuah tov veShalom. bye. |
| 18:47.00 | madeddie | hehe, is cool, but you still didn't answer my question, are you jewish? |
| 18:47.19 | madeddie | treke|home: ah well, kernel-module-space is somewhat safer :) |
| 18:47.25 | pedro | :-) |
| 18:47.46 | treke|home | madeddie: "safer" |
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| 18:47.59 | madeddie | pedro: ok, never mind ;) |
| 18:48.01 | treke|home | and falling from 5 stories up is safer than 10 stories up |
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| 18:49.58 | ljp_laptop_ | depends on the landing |
| 18:53.08 | treke|home | ljp_laptop_: could you please demonstrate a bad landing? |
| 18:54.37 | ljp_laptop_ | well, I can tell you about my friend that fell off a 200 foot cliff and only nroke his arm because he landed in trees |
| 18:55.37 | treke|home | that would be a good landing |
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