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| 00:34.12 | darth_mall | who wants to help me get my new zaurus to connect to my linux box? |
| 00:34.35 | fdask | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.48 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 00:34.52 | darth_mall | been tryin that for over an hour |
| 00:35.07 | fdask | is something specific stumping you? |
| 00:35.29 | darth_mall | I can't even find something to tell me how to do it |
| 00:35.34 | darth_mall | so I don't even know where to begin |
| 00:37.02 | fishyZ | read the zaurus devnet forums |
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| 02:34.34 | darth_mall | does anyone know how to get a 5600 to sync w/ evolution? |
| 02:34.36 | darth_mall | I'm running gentoo |
| 02:34.41 | darth_mall | if that matters |
| 02:34.59 | treke|home | you cant yet |
| 02:35.20 | darth_mall | treke|home: what will it sync w/ on linux? anything? |
| 02:35.35 | treke|home | darth_mall: Nothing that I know of |
| 02:35.44 | darth_mall | damn |
| 02:36.08 | darth_mall | treke|home: do you use qtopia desktop on your machine (not the zaurus) |
| 02:36.44 | treke|home | no |
| 02:36.47 | darth_mall | cuz I installed the .rpm but I don't know if it worked |
| 02:36.55 | darth_mall | and I don't know what the command to start it is =) |
| 02:37.00 | darth_mall | oh well |
| 02:40.02 | fishyZ | .rpm bah |
| 02:41.26 | darth_mall | fishyZ couldn't find it any other way |
| 02:41.43 | O2 | Can anyone help me choose between maxmame and zmame? :) |
| 02:42.41 | fishyZ | I heard maxmame was better |
| 02:43.30 | O2 | I'll try that then./ |
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| 03:25.15 | brunes | how much memory does qtopia use anyways? |
| 03:25.34 | brunes | just wondering why shap thinks I need 32 MB of ram to operate.. |
| 03:25.45 | treke|home | brunes: The apps need it |
| 03:25.59 | brunes | yes but how often ar eyou running more than 1 app on a pda? |
| 03:26.02 | brunes | i never am.. |
| 03:26.12 | treke|home | brunes: Constantly |
| 03:26.12 | brunes | i open one, do stuff, close it, open other one |
| 03:26.31 | brunes | oh |
| 03:26.38 | brunes | i find that weird for osme rweason.. :P |
| 03:27.16 | treke|home | I find having to close apps on a pda weird |
| 03:27.20 | brunes | well since i only ever run one app (max two) wouldnt I be better off with O and a lwer memory split? |
| 03:27.29 | brunes | OZ |
| 03:28.11 | brunes | you alway shave to close apps... i think on palmos though it closes one ap when you run another by itself |
| 03:28.14 | treke|home | 32 is the smallest they make |
| 03:28.18 | brunes | and just saves the state |
| 03:28.26 | brunes | 32 sis the smallest? |
| 03:28.28 | treke|home | brunes: correct. The OS closes apps. The user doesnt |
| 03:28.29 | brunes | jesus |
| 03:28.30 | treke|home | brunes: yes |
| 03:29.27 | brunes | like i can run both hancom and opera and i still have liek 2 megs free, and a ton cached that i dont need really |
| 03:30.14 | brunes | i would like 24 ram / 44 storage myself i think.. or along those lines |
| 03:30.41 | treke|home | if there was one :) |
| 03:30.46 | brunes | if I built my own OZ kernel could I adjust the split? |
| 03:31.39 | brunes | im not afraid of getting my hands dirty :P |
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| 06:42.16 | madeddie | is the zaurus hardware capable of SDIO? (i know the proprietary driver isn't, but i'm just wondering if the hardware can do IO) |
| 07:48.34 | Twiun | madeddie: as far as the 5xxx series is concerned, I don't think it is |
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| 08:36.41 | kendrick | so i wanna upgrade my 5000D finally :) |
| 08:36.54 | kendrick | it looks like there's some 3.10-based stuff for it, but I'm not sure what I need to grab! |
| 08:37.35 | kendrick | Like ROM 1.1d: http://community.zaurus.com/forum/forum.php?forum_id=140 But is there a zImage for 5000D yet? |
| 08:37.52 | Zxcvb | consider OZ |
| 08:38.13 | Zxcvb | rip opera 6.0 from 3.10 |
| 08:38.21 | Zxcvb | rip hancom and jeode from 2.38 |
| 08:38.34 | Twiun | kendrick: no 3.10 for the 5000d yet afaict |
| 08:38.55 | Zxcvb | Twiun: you just need cramfs on a linux (or possibly *BSD) system |
| 08:39.28 | Zxcvb | Twiun: I suggested ripping hancom and jeode from the latest non-3.10 ROM, and opera 6.0 from 3.10 |
| 08:39.41 | Zxcvb | Twiun: then going with openzaurus 3.2 with a 32-0 ROM |
| 08:39.49 | kendrick | meh |
| 08:39.58 | kendrick | i'm sticking to sharp-based roms for the time being... |
| 08:40.11 | kendrick | if i had a spare Z, i'd play with OZ and help dev probably... |
| 08:40.19 | Twiun | Zxcvb: OZ is still too raw for some people - hence why I answered the way I did |
| 08:40.19 | kendrick | but alas, the 5000D is all i've got |
| 08:41.11 | Zxcvb | I only have a 5500, and went with OZ |
| 08:41.27 | Zxcvb | you do have to either set up dialup manually, or install perl and copy over pppconfig from familiar |
| 08:41.55 | Twiun | Everyone's needs vary |
| 08:41.56 | Zxcvb | currently the only way to get divx playback is either openzaurus, or pay $$$ for tkcplayer or dr.z |
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| 08:42.55 | Zxcvb | have you ever used the micro innovations keyboard? |
| 08:43.16 | kendrick | the folding one? |
| 08:44.09 | mirko | can please someone test my zaurus programm, i cross compiled my ogg/mp3/mod/s3m player to arm, but got no chance to test it, couse i own no zaurus :( |
| 08:44.29 | Zxcvb | kendreck: it's a pocketop, but not a pocketop if you know what I mean |
| 08:44.41 | mirko | http://home.t-online.de/home/mirkoroller/zaurus/mpoggplayer.tar.gz |
| 08:44.42 | kendrick | i think that's the one my friend has for his zaurus |
| 08:44.54 | kendrick | mirko - about to upgrade my ROM for the first time in 1.5yr, sorry ;) |
| 08:44.59 | Zxcvb | kendrick: basically, micro innovations put their name on a pocketop keyboard |
| 08:45.23 | mirko | no probs..... kendrick |
| 08:46.49 | Zxcvb | if only OZ had a dialup config tool in it's networking applet |
| 08:48.40 | kendrick | NDAs are fun... |
| 08:48.48 | kendrick | i'd tell you why, but then i'd have to kill you |
| 08:48.53 | kendrick | (it says so in the NDA) |
| 08:49.26 | Twiun | Think you'd be able to use that as a legal defense? |
| 08:49.39 | kendrick | hey, if it's in a contract, it's a LEGAL OBLIGATION ;) |
| 08:51.25 | kendrick | going from 2.37 or 2.38 to 3.10 will be fun... i may need to manually re-enter all my contacts :^P |
| 08:51.38 | kendrick | oh well.. .time for a pruning anyway ;) |
| 08:52.29 | kendrick | i wish konq 3 and community.zaurus.com would fucking talk to each other properly >:^( |
| 08:52.38 | kendrick | i keep getting stuck in loops where i log in, and it just asks me to log in again |
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| 09:01.07 | kendrick | shit! 2am! |
| 09:01.36 | Twiun | shit! 10am! |
| 09:01.59 | mirko | Wed Jul 2 11:01:58 UTC 2003 |
| 09:02.25 | kendrick | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9690549076.html |
| 09:04.15 | kendrick | okay, so i've got a ROMIMAGE on my CF card |
| 09:04.19 | kendrick | is that all i need? |
| 09:04.32 | kendrick | (e.g., is this different from the zImage / initrd whatever junk?) |
| 09:07.21 | Twiun | the ROMIMAGE is a packaged zimage+initrd+bootloader combo |
| 09:08.51 | kendrick | so just pop it in the Z and do C+D+Reset? |
| 09:09.49 | kendrick | aww crap... my CF card is suddenly only formatted for 16MB |
| 09:09.54 | kendrick | how did i manage THAT?! |
| 09:11.04 | kendrick | what's the magic to format a CF card VFAT? |
| 09:11.05 | Twiun | oh yeah, and make sure you md5sum the romimage |
| 09:11.18 | Twiun | mkfs.vfat? |
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| 09:11.35 | kendrick | it downloaded in a ZIP, and the ZIP seemed fine; would md5'ing still be necessary at this point? |
| 09:11.44 | kendrick | mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 |
| 09:11.57 | kendrick | that's what i did, but it seems to think that's only 16MB now; it's a 64MB |
| 09:12.01 | kendrick | maybe i should run fdisk on it? ;) |
| 09:12.12 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.20 | Twiun | /dev/sda1 doesn't seem like a CF card - /dev/hda1 is usually CF |
| 09:12.34 | kendrick | twiun - that was from my desktop |
| 09:12.39 | Twiun | ahhh |
| 09:12.42 | kendrick | i didnt even think to do it from the z itself :) heheheh |
| 09:12.52 | kendrick | i'll try that.. hang on |
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| 09:13.06 | Twiun | but fdisk sounds like a plan |
| 09:14.06 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:14.13 | kendrick | sweet :^)... mkfs.vfat on the Z did it right |
| 09:14.55 | kendrick | hehe.. cp takes 0 time.. umount will take minutes, i bet ;) |
| 09:15.29 | DrBoB | If any of you gurus have sorted out how to get a Linux box talking to the Z via USB .... fill me in |
| 09:16.08 | DrBoB | please |
| 09:18.24 | Zxcvb | is there any way to hook a floppy drive up to a zaurus? |
| 09:21.08 | kendrick | Zxcvb - maybe with the USB CF card |
| 09:21.15 | kendrick | DrBob - there should be howtos ;) |
| 09:21.28 | kendrick | it's been a LONG time since I did it, and almost as long since i last used my cradle... |
| 09:21.42 | kendrick | okay... here goes... first ROM update in nearly 1.5yrs!!!!! WISH ME LUCK! |
| 09:21.54 | DrBoB | Good luck! |
| 09:22.08 | DrBoB | The howtos are wrong |
| 09:22.17 | kendrick | drbob :( sorry |
| 09:22.20 | DrBoB | or in conflict |
| 09:22.24 | kendrick | okay... green & orange lights are on |
| 09:22.40 | kendrick | man, i hope i can use my SD card in a sensible way for installing apps... i was using Paul Flinders ROM all this time! |
| 09:22.44 | DrBoB | going to 3.1 Sharp? |
| 09:22.54 | kendrick | DrBob - kinda ;)... it's an SL-5000D |
| 09:23.01 | kendrick | i've got some super-secret ROM from sharp |
| 09:23.11 | DrBoB | LOL |
| 09:23.12 | kendrick | crap.. now i've gotta kill all of you! |
| 09:23.39 | DrBoB | if it's got the same stuff that is in the 3.1 ROM it's nice |
| 09:24.11 | DrBoB | first time ever: all my palm data imported seamlessly into the Z |
| 09:24.22 | kendrick | cool |
| 09:24.29 | DrBoB | apps are more stable |
| 09:25.00 | DrBoB | my wireless card was recognized without me having to edit the -ng file |
| 09:25.06 | kendrick | hehe |
| 09:25.12 | kendrick | mine had been pretty good this whole time |
| 09:25.22 | kendrick | uh oh... what does it mean when green light goes out, but orange doesn't |
| 09:25.33 | DrBoB | very stable app |
| 09:25.41 | DrBoB | it's charging |
| 09:25.48 | kendrick | well yeah, but i was ROM updating :) |
| 09:25.51 | kendrick | it didn't finish ALREADY did, it? |
| 09:26.09 | DrBoB | just wait tillthe light goes out |
| 09:26.27 | kendrick | green went out... but not orange |
| 09:27.18 | DrBoB | I would be inlclined to let it go...until both go out |
| 09:27.19 | kendrick | hehe.. no... definitely not done ;) |
| 09:27.51 | DrBoB | LOL |
| 09:28.26 | kendrick | hrm... it says nothing about if only ONE light goes out ;) |
| 09:28.51 | DrBoB | yah.... usually BOTH go out at the same time |
| 09:29.25 | kendrick | the green light is pretty... i never see it on :) |
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| 09:29.57 | DrBoB | use your Z for mail and it madly flashes till you read one mail |
| 09:30.02 | kendrick | hehe |
| 09:30.32 | kendrick | it did it again... no green light |
| 09:30.52 | DrBoB | you flashing from CF? |
| 09:31.09 | Zxcvb | does the Z have binfmt_misc support? |
| 09:33.15 | kendrick | yes |
| 09:33.20 | kendrick | (flashing Q :) ) |
| 09:33.37 | DrBoB | good! |
| 09:33.51 | kendrick | so what's the dealio? |
| 09:34.11 | kendrick | i start the flash, and both LEDs lgiht up, and remain on for a few mins... then green on goes off. |
| 09:34.27 | kendrick | it's plugged into the wall, so that's one way of explaining the orange light |
| 09:34.40 | kendrick | (yeah, and if i unplug wall, it goes out :) ) |
| 09:34.52 | kendrick | next step would be to hit [RESET] a 2nd time, right? |
| 09:35.08 | kendrick | then close the lid and switch to 'Normal Operation' and boot up? |
| 09:35.20 | DrBoB | yes |
| 09:35.22 | kendrick | (it really HAS been a long time :) ) |
| 09:35.29 | DrBoB | go for it! |
| 09:35.53 | kendrick | hrm... |
| 09:36.12 | kendrick | i get "INIT: version 2.78 booting", "INIT: No inittab file found" "Enter runlevel: [blinking cursor]" |
| 09:36.16 | kendrick | ideas? |
| 09:36.38 | Twiun | afaik, the usual runlevel on a Z is 2 |
| 09:36.43 | DrBoB | that means it got a kernel but no filesystem |
| 09:37.03 | kendrick | okay... |
| 09:37.42 | DrBoB | initab is the first startup script that gts run |
| 09:38.16 | DrBoB | I would hard reset and go again |
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| 09:47.11 | kendrick | .. sorry hang on :) |
| 09:47.57 | DrBoB | ....... |
| 09:55.32 | kendrick | the ROMIMAGE is 16MB |
| 09:55.40 | kendrick | that _should_ be all i need, right? |
| 09:55.46 | DrBoB | ?? |
| 09:56.05 | DrBoB | is 16 MB the right size? |
| 09:56.16 | kendrick | i assume so ;) |
| 09:57.14 | DrBoB | heh |
| 10:00.11 | kendrick | no luck :( |
| 10:03.12 | DrBoB | damn! |
| 10:05.35 | kendrick | fuck :( |
| 10:06.46 | DrBoB | looks like Sharp need to go back to the drawing table |
| 10:06.55 | DrBoB | on that ROM |
| 10:07.10 | kendrick | :^( |
| 10:13.17 | kendrick | ooh! |
| 10:13.21 | kendrick | $ md5sum /cf/romimage |
| 10:13.22 | kendrick | error processing /cf/romimage: failed in buffer_read(fd): mdfile: Input/output error |
| 10:13.35 | kendrick | hey hey... maybe time to re-format the flash card? |
| 10:13.38 | kendrick | (again!) |
| 10:14.42 | kendrick | hrm... >:^/ |
| 10:17.33 | kendrick | WEIRD |
| 10:17.47 | kendrick | "Input/output error" on the romimage every time i try to read it from CF |
| 10:17.56 | kendrick | i even did a "Format" of the card from my canon digital camera |
| 10:18.07 | kendrick | (i doubt it actually _formatted_ it) |
| 10:18.37 | kendrick | sadly, the only other CF card i have is 16MB (so too small; has to be 32MB to fit an actual 16MB ROMIMAGE) that came w/ that camera |
| 10:19.05 | DrBoB | got another ddevice to format and copy to the CF?? |
| 10:19.14 | kendrick | USB card reader |
| 10:19.25 | DrBoB | that would work |
| 10:19.44 | DrBoB | from DOS |
| 10:19.51 | kendrick | "mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1" only makes a 16MB fs! |
| 10:19.58 | kendrick | DOS? who uses DOS?! |
| 10:20.11 | DrBoB | LOL |
| 10:20.23 | kendrick | oh hey... maybe i need to say -F 16 :) |
| 10:20.30 | DrBoB | I do if it's the only alternative |
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| 10:20.48 | kendrick | i dont have any DOS or Win boxen |
| 10:21.20 | DrBoB | :-( most of mine dual boot.. |
| 10:21.23 | George- | heya all |
| 10:21.28 | George- | I have a mac... running linux :P |
| 10:22.00 | DrBoB | good on ya! |
| 10:23.02 | George- | lol |
| 10:23.11 | George- | only problem is... it's total crap |
| 10:24.02 | DrBoB | well go back to BSD-based OSX and wait for Linux to catch up.. |
| 10:24.09 | subdue | you could always just use your camera to format the card. |
| 10:24.18 | subdue | it wont be in the linux fs, but it should work |
| 10:24.45 | George- | how dare you |
| 10:24.48 | George- | OS X sucks |
| 10:25.20 | kendrick | it's not supposed to be in linux fs! |
| 10:25.24 | kendrick | it's supposed tobe in FAT16! |
| 10:25.30 | stew_ | George-: what distro? |
| 10:25.38 | kendrick | it's just that it only seems to be acting like there's 16MB, even though it's formatted for 64MB (and is a 64MB card :) ) |
| 10:25.53 | kendrick | and yes, i tried formatting from my camera, and it did fail... |
| 10:26.01 | kendrick | (it said it's ~60+ MB) |
| 10:26.18 | George- | stew_: gentoo linux 1.4 |
| 10:27.01 | kendrick | okay, this is wierd... fdisk on /dev/sda reports: |
| 10:27.03 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.06 | DrBoB | if you mkfs -t msdos that might force fat16? |
| 10:27.27 | kendrick | but when i [d]elete that and go to make a [n]ew one, it only lets me do cylinders between 1 and 123! (e.g., 16MB!) |
| 10:27.42 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:27.47 | kendrick | >:^( |
| 10:27.49 | Zxcvb | is anyone here using openzaurus? |
| 10:27.55 | George- | kendrick: that means that it's a partition with type specified as FAT16, but it's actual formatting is ext2 |
| 10:28.08 | DrBoB | false info in the data table |
| 10:28.29 | kendrick | drbob - "mkfs -t msdos" still ends up with a <16MB partition |
| 10:28.49 | George- | ack, gtg to lessons |
| 10:28.51 | DrBoB | on a 32 MB card? |
| 10:28.57 | George- | have fun all |
| 10:28.57 | kendrick | 64MB card |
| 10:29.00 | kendrick | cya george |
| 10:29.09 | DrBoB | very odd |
| 10:29.38 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:29.51 | kendrick | okay, so i can change the partition [t]ype to [6]: FAT16 |
| 10:30.03 | kendrick | it's _STILL_ showing as 16MB, since i can only make it up to 123 cylinders!!! |
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| 10:30.19 | kendrick | Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-123, default 123): 489 |
| 10:30.19 | kendrick | Value out of range. |
| 10:30.20 | kendrick | :( |
| 10:30.29 | kendrick | Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-123, default 123): +64M |
| 10:30.29 | kendrick | Value out of range. |
| 10:30.31 | DrBoB | kendrick: you try cfdisk? |
| 10:30.46 | DrBoB | the mkfs? |
| 10:30.49 | DrBoB | then |
| 10:30.54 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.56 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.16 | kendrick | should i be running it on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 ??? |
| 10:31.34 | DrBoB | sda1 |
| 10:31.47 | kendrick | okay... it's running |
| 10:32.05 | Zxcvb | could someone here who uses openzaurus 3.2 do me a favor? |
| 10:32.09 | DrBoB | or that's how it looks when I plug in a SD card via USB reader |
| 10:32.09 | kendrick | I can only make it up to 15.99 MB in cfdisk too! >:^( |
| 10:32.42 | kendrick | well typically you run fdisk on /dev/DEV and then the partitions you make end up being /dev/DEV#; at least with device = IDE HD and DEV = HDx :) |
| 10:33.09 | DrBoB | I'm using Slack9 here |
| 10:33.48 | DrBoB | like hda =====> hda1, hda2, hda3 etc |
| 10:34.50 | DrBoB | so you make a single partition on sd1? |
| 10:35.15 | kendrick | CF cards are always /dev/sda1 for the filesystem |
| 10:36.03 | DrBoB | but you won't have a dev sd1 until you make a partition |
| 10:36.32 | DrBoB | then format the partition.... |
| 10:36.34 | kendrick | but they ALWAYS already have partions! |
| 10:36.44 | kendrick | CF cards always come preformatted FAT16 for digital cams/etc. |
| 10:36.54 | kendrick | i HAVE a partition right now... 64MB |
| 10:37.10 | kendrick | but for some stupid reason, i can only write to 15.99 MB of it, then it gets IO errors |
| 10:37.21 | kendrick | and if i play with (c)fdisk, it only lets me create a NEW partition of 16MB |
| 10:37.28 | DrBoB | :-) but it won't ket yu format it? |
| 10:37.33 | kendrick | so SOMETHING, SOMEWHERE is fux0red |
| 10:37.36 | DrBoB | ket =let |
| 10:37.41 | kendrick | i can format it all i want! it only comes out 16MB! |
| 10:37.52 | kendrick | # df |
| 10:37.54 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.02 | DrBoB | can you delete the old partition first |
| 10:38.09 | wijnand | kendrick: you have a cardreader for your normal computer? or do you just use it in the Z? |
| 10:38.21 | kendrick | drbob, like if i stick it in my camera? |
| 10:38.29 | kendrick | wijnand - my Z is dead right now |
| 10:38.37 | kendrick | i reflashed it with 15MB of a 16MB ROMIMAGE, so it's a brick |
| 10:38.43 | wijnand | that is sad |
| 10:38.48 | kendrick | so i'm using a USB reader under linux (hence /dev/_s_da1) |
| 10:38.56 | wijnand | yeah fair enough |
| 10:38.58 | kendrick | well, this 64MB card is all wonky all of a sudden! |
| 10:39.05 | DrBoB | well partition and FS (format) are two different things.... |
| 10:39.17 | wijnand | kendrick: tried the obvious, such as different usb port? |
| 10:39.30 | kendrick | USB port!? |
| 10:39.40 | wijnand | thats what the card readers plug into isnt it? |
| 10:39.43 | wijnand | mine does anyway |
| 10:39.55 | DrBoB | if the partition has been marked the a format will only go as far as the partition... |
| 10:40.21 | DrBoB | (16 MB) |
| 10:40.26 | kendrick | yeah, but why would USB port matter??? |
| 10:40.49 | kendrick | pops CF card into camera |
| 10:41.00 | kendrick | "Memory card error" ... okay, makes sense... no FS :) |
| 10:41.05 | wijnand | heh |
| 10:41.20 | kendrick | okay... camera said it formatted it, now shows as 60.9MB again :) |
| 10:41.21 | wijnand | format in the camera? |
| 10:41.23 | DrBoB | no PARTITION to write a file system to |
| 10:41.28 | wijnand | ah good |
| 10:41.38 | kendrick | WHEE! |
| 10:41.43 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.47 | kendrick | yay! this camera RULEZ! |
| 10:41.53 | DrBoB | delete the old then create the new |
| 10:41.58 | wijnand | kendrick: which is it i want to know :) |
| 10:42.26 | kendrick | Canon Powershot A60... kicks ASS :) |
| 10:42.35 | wijnand | ahh heh yeah the canons are good |
| 10:42.39 | kendrick | not that i did any kind of RESEARCH, but my friend has one, and i loved it :) |
| 10:42.56 | wijnand | i have a fuji which is good too but it uses sm cards which are completely useless for anything else |
| 10:43.13 | kendrick | my olympus uses SM cards... and serial port for download... SLOW :( |
| 10:43.22 | kendrick | and doesnt do movies ;) and doesnt fit in my pocket! :) |
| 10:43.25 | kendrick | aww CRaP >:^( |
| 10:43.27 | kendrick | cp: reading `/cf/romimage': Input/output error |
| 10:43.34 | wijnand | yeah mine is serial too so i got a card reader, which is MUCH faster |
| 10:43.39 | kendrick | -rw-r--r-- 1 kendrick kendrick 16777216 Jan 25 2000 ROMIMAGE |
| 10:43.40 | kendrick | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15798272 Jul 2 03:43 romimage |
| 10:44.12 | kendrick | i'm missing a meg! >:^( |
| 10:44.12 | wijnand | kendrick: have you considered buying a new card? they're dead chea[ |
| 10:44.14 | wijnand | cheap |
| 10:44.45 | kendrick | well, seeing as it's 3:45am here, and i'm broke and unemployed (and spent $250 on my shiny new camera :) ) |
| 10:44.46 | kendrick | NO! :^P |
| 10:44.47 | kendrick | hehehehe |
| 10:45.04 | kendrick | perhaps this file is small enough to fit on my 16MB CF that came with the camera... |
| 10:45.06 | kendrick | cya drbob |
| 10:45.12 | DrBoB | good luck! |
| 10:45.17 | wijnand | yeah a 16 mb cf card should be enough |
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| 10:45.52 | kendrick | well... MAYBE :) |
| 10:45.57 | kendrick | the file is 16777216 bytes |
| 10:46.17 | kendrick | cp: writing `/cf/ROMIMAGE': No space left on device |
| 10:46.18 | kendrick | :^( |
| 10:46.42 | wijnand | damn |
| 10:46.57 | wijnand | in theory that cf card is just as large as your Z's rom |
| 10:47.47 | kendrick | about 700K too small |
| 10:48.01 | kendrick | 777.1K or so :) |
| 10:48.09 | wijnand | what image is it? |
| 10:48.13 | kendrick | so how do i fix this stupid 64MB card? |
| 10:48.17 | kendrick | it's a 5000D ROM from sharp for 3.1 |
| 10:48.19 | kendrick | (shh) |
| 10:49.23 | kendrick | well, fdisk reports the right size again, at least... |
| 10:49.26 | wijnand | why not try oz? i believe that claims to fit on 16 mb cf's |
| 10:49.35 | kendrick | no! i told spencer i'd test this rom! |
| 10:49.41 | wijnand | ah |
| 10:49.57 | wijnand | but oz and no testing is better than no sharp rom to test :) |
| 10:50.10 | kendrick | heheh |
| 10:50.19 | kendrick | well, i CAN always buy a new card in an emergency |
| 10:50.32 | kendrick | and use this as a backup camera card or something, if its capacity is shot |
| 10:51.22 | wijnand | i thought sharp allows for rom updates via the qtopia desktop tool for windows... care to give that a go? :) |
| 10:52.26 | kendrick | win...dows? :) |
| 10:52.31 | wijnand | hehe |
| 10:52.43 | wijnand | yeah the os that sharp *does* support so to speak |
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| 10:57.35 | kendrick | well, i've taken a TON of photos and it's not bitchign yet |
| 10:57.43 | kendrick | maybe that fdisk-after-canon-format helped!? |
| 10:58.26 | wijnand | who knows |
| 10:58.34 | kendrick | well, i will soon ;) |
| 10:58.59 | kendrick | it will be 64MB of photos of my desk, plus some movies of my desk ;) |
| 10:59.06 | wijnand | lovely |
| 10:59.47 | kendrick | t-minus 23 photos to take |
| 10:59.53 | kendrick | and these are at, like, 1600 x 1200, superfine quality :) |
| 11:00.42 | kendrick | i think i've proven it can store > 16MB again ;) |
| 11:02.07 | kendrick | cool... i may be < 10m away from new zaurus ROM! ) |
| 11:02.09 | kendrick | :) |
| 11:03.06 | kendrick | (1) writing to CF |
| 11:03.41 | kendrick | (2) reading-back from CF... |
| 11:04.09 | kendrick | WOO-HOO! (3) md5sum'ing copy |
| 11:04.26 | kendrick | flashin' time! |
| 11:07.12 | kendrick | YAY! both lights went out this time! :) |
| 11:07.47 | kendrick | ack SHIT :) i had it in 'normal' mode :) |
| 11:08.00 | kendrick | well, it seems to be getting somehwere :) |
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| 11:10.01 | wijnand | hehe |
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| 11:12.33 | kendrick | yay :) |
| 11:12.40 | kendrick | okay, i'm upgraded... time to go to bed already! :) |
| 11:12.47 | kendrick | thx for the help |
| 11:12.57 | kendrick | nite! |
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| 12:23.41 | gunman | hi! |
| 12:25.03 | gunman | i have just bought an zaurus -> how can i sync without using the dockingstation and the wlancard? |
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| 12:58.34 | cyn | gunman: well, you need some connection between the zaurus and the computer to sync. usb, serial, cf device (ethernet/wireless/etc.), or irda are pretty much your options |
| 13:02.35 | gunman | cyn: thanx. how does the serial way work? or the cf device? is there an cf ethernet card and can i plug it in without booting? |
| 13:03.46 | cyn | serial is just like usb, just a different cable |
| 13:03.48 | gunman | my situation: ive got a convertec leather case and i don't want to get the zaurus out of this case eacj time |
| 13:04.09 | cyn | I don't follow the 'without booting' question, both desktop and zaurus have to be on to be functioning |
| 13:04.17 | gunman | so i must buy i new cable for that? |
| 13:04.34 | cyn | if you wish to use serial, but it won't benefit you any as i'm sure it connects the same as the usb |
| 13:04.40 | cyn | it would just be slower |
| 13:04.51 | gunman | cyn: but i can plug the two together even when they are turne don? |
| 13:05.35 | cyn | I think you're mishearing something, because it sounds like you just asked if you can connect your z to your desktop with a cable when they're both on :) |
| 13:06.27 | cyn | your case wraps fully around and covers the cf slot as well? |
| 13:06.49 | gunman | nope, the slots are all free |
| 13:07.15 | gunman | but i cannot plug it into the usbdockingstation without pulling the z out of the case |
| 13:07.49 | cyn | yeah your option is pretty much cf then - either ethernet or wireless etc |
| 13:08.14 | cyn | I wouldn't go bluetooth as it's prohibitively expensive and limited - unless you had a bt cell and wanted to use it in that vie as well |
| 13:08.21 | cyn | vein |
| 13:08.53 | gunman | ahh i am totaly new to these mobile devices: i have to buy an cf networkcard...? |
| 13:09.14 | cyn | well, if you don't want to take it out of the case |
| 13:09.31 | cyn | and unless you have a laptop with irda [read:slow, drain battery] |
| 13:09.45 | gunman | ah ok i understand |
| 13:10.09 | gunman | is there an irda hardware for pc available |
| 13:10.40 | cyn | yeah but I don't think it's much cheaper than if you got a cf ethernet card |
| 13:10.54 | cyn | and it's all pretty rare and erm, untested should I say? |
| 13:11.15 | cyn | laptops rarely have irda anymore, it was cool, but it never 'took off' heavily enough to garner much backing |
| 13:11.51 | cyn | so there are a few usb dongles, but like I said - it's really quite slow and fairly power hungry because of having to transmit for so long |
| 13:12.42 | cyn | personally I went with a wireless cf device, so I can do other stuff from my z without having a computer on or anything - but if you don't have a WAP that can cost over $100 easy |
| 13:13.02 | gunman | ah i see - and i dont know, if it works with linux. i have disabled irda every time i compiled the kernel |
| 13:13.39 | gunman | yes. so i should buy an WAp too ;-( |
| 13:13.42 | cyn | well, ya'd have to research and buy an irda dongle that works with linux :P |
| 13:13.52 | gunman | :-) |
| 13:13.56 | cyn | wireless is cool, my porch and i highly recommend it |
| 13:14.52 | absentiaS | re |
| 13:14.59 | gunman | yes it would. but buying this only to sync my z? :---( |
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| 13:15.46 | cyn | I'd either modify the case so it fits in the cradle, modify the cradle so the case fits in it, or 'deal' and pull it out when I wanna sync personally |
| 13:15.54 | cyn | if that's your only need for any of this stuff |
| 13:16.09 | gunman | cyn but anyway: uy tipp helped me a lot! thanx!!! |
| 13:16.22 | cyn | np, good luck whatever you choose |
| 13:16.47 | gunman | ...perhapts there is an connection I/O Port and usb without the cradle |
| 13:17.00 | cyn | yeah there are usb cables that have no cradle |
| 13:17.17 | cyn | I searched google and it didn't turn up any matches for your case so I dunno how it's working exactly |
| 13:17.23 | gunman | ..and an xonnection to the I/O port? |
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| 13:17.37 | cyn | yeah its like the cradle, but just a cable instead of a whole seating thing |
| 13:18.12 | cyn | http://www.myzaurus.com/accessories.asp |
| 13:18.15 | gunman | YEAH. that would be great. is tehre any problem when missing the sync button (at the cradle) |
| 13:18.17 | cyn | 'thin usb cable' |
| 13:18.20 | cyn | bbiab |
| 13:20.14 | gunman | very good! |
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| 13:31.44 | George- | ol |
| 13:31.55 | George- | heya all |
| 13:32.45 | cyn | hoi |
| 13:33.09 | George- | heya cyn |
| 13:33.58 | cyn | ill give 'em the cable because nothing else easily fits and it wouldn't relate well, but it's usb not serial, even if it emulates serial - its still usb |
| 13:53.01 | gunman | exit |
| 14:04.31 | mspencer[away] | serial meaning bit after bit in sequential order? |
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| 14:05.24 | George- | wahoo I got toshiba's site slashdotted!! |
| 14:07.19 | ljp_laptop | uh huh |
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| 14:19.50 | ljp_laptop | you just used the wrong url ;) |
| 14:20.45 | George- | ljp_laptop: yeh :( |
| 14:20.51 | ljp_laptop | hehehe dork |
| 14:21.03 | George- | I just nicked the URL from PowerPage.org |
| 14:21.05 | George- | heh |
| 14:21.19 | George- | IT'S THEIR FAULT! |
| 14:21.23 | ljp_laptop | oh well. someone posted it |
| 14:21.33 | George- | ? |
| 14:21.38 | George- | posted what? |
| 14:21.46 | ljp_laptop | the url that works |
| 14:21.57 | George- | http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=zorian.ath.cx |
| 14:21.58 | ljp_laptop | http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/pc/pc_cf_prodChassis.jsp?comm=ST&pfam=Satellite&pmod=P25 |
| 14:21.59 | George- | yeh |
| 14:22.19 | George- | zorian.ath.cx is my ickle server :) |
| 14:22.22 | ljp_laptop | I hate that about toshibas site. it has session crap |
| 14:23.32 | George- | yeh |
| 14:26.23 | ljp_laptop | oh well. |
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| 23:55.05 | darth_mall | can anyone here help me install a D-link dcf-650w wireless card in my 5600 |