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| 00:12.29 | fiam | hi all |
| 00:12.46 | fiam | anybody can tell me if CF 1 cards work in CF 2 slots? |
| 00:14.49 | fliplap | type 1 cards work in type 2 slots if that's what you're asking |
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| 00:16.03 | fiam | fliplap: oks, thx :) |
| 00:16.09 | fiam | bye |
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| 01:00.29 | fliplap | OZ has to be built with 2.4.18 right? |
| 01:00.53 | treke | 2.4.6 |
| 01:01.18 | fliplap | hrm, cause buildroot tries to fetch 2.4.18, but it can't |
| 01:01.38 | fliplap | wget --continue --passive-ftp http://www.uclibc.org/downloads/toolchain/kernel-headers-2.4.18.tar.bz2 |
| 01:02.21 | treke | bk vi packages/kernel-headers |
| 01:02.24 | treke | change the version to 21 |
| 01:03.31 | fliplap | ok, wasn't sure if that was a required version |
| 01:09.54 | koyote | mount desn't support -u |
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| 01:46.59 | Pungent | I'm attempting to build a cross compiler for the arm. I noticed that my distribution, and most others as well, use something to the effect of a /usr/i386-slackware-linux dir, insert your distro for slackware. Upon inspection of these directories, most of it are links elsewhere. What is this for? And is it really necessary? |
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| 03:33.10 | Zxcvb | anyone know what x86 CPU a 40MHz ARM is equivelant to? |
| 03:33.37 | treke|home | probably a 386 |
| 03:33.40 | treke|home | of some sort |
| 03:34.47 | Zxcvb | isn't a 200MHz ARM about a pentium 150 or so? |
| 03:37.17 | treke|home | maybe for some operations. remember the pentium 150 has an fpu |
| 03:38.14 | Zxcvb | ignore the FPU issues |
| 03:39.07 | treke|home | in theory a 40mhz StrongArm would be roughly equivalent to a 40mhz pentium, which didnt exist |
| 03:39.23 | Zxcvb | a 486 DX2/66 does |
| 03:39.43 | Zxcvb | and a pentium 60 is supposedly about a 486/100 |
| 03:40.50 | treke|home | so a 200mhz arm is sort of a pentium 150 and a pentium 60 is sort of a 486/100 |
| 03:40.59 | treke|home | so from that we can determine very little :) |
| 03:41.20 | Zxcvb | I was just going by things like divx for the 200mhz arm to pentium 150 |
| 03:41.21 | treke|home | other than it would be really slow |
| 03:42.20 | treke|home | you need to compare more than just divx |
| 03:44.27 | treke|home | and how do I edit this damn menu |
| 03:57.15 | Zxcvb | fpu doesn't matter as the x86 emu I am using handles that on it's own |
| 03:57.25 | Zxcvb | at least it will be enough for wabi or something |
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| 04:09.53 | zar | hy all |
| 04:12.40 | treke|home | Zxcvb: It can't handle the fact that there is no hardware to back it up, so you take a significant speed hit |
| 04:14.09 | Zxcvb | treke|home: yeah, just like there is no hardware to back up the rest of the x86 CPU |
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| 04:14.47 | Zxcvb | treke|home: I guess on power pc and such you could convert the x86 FPU instructions to ppc FPU or alpha FPU instructions though |
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| 06:35.12 | NoRemorse | heya |
| 06:35.20 | NoRemorse | does MaxMAME work on OZ3.2? |
| 06:35.26 | NoRemorse | .j openzaurus |
| 06:39.01 | NoRemorse | damn my 5500 runs heaps slower with 3.2 |
| 06:51.39 | NoRemorse | u geyz are a font |
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| 08:49.59 | kend-zaur | re |
| 08:51.50 | kend-zaur | too quiet! |
| 08:52.58 | wijnand | yeah indeed |
| 08:55.01 | zar | busy rebuilding the openzaurus kernel :) |
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| 08:55.27 | TCMAN | hi |
| 08:56.06 | wijnand | hi |
| 08:59.54 | kend-zaur | zaur needs lit up keys ;) |
| 09:00.20 | wijnand | ? |
| 09:00.57 | kend-zaur | i cant see them in the dark |
| 09:01.10 | kend-zaur | the frontlight (and my wlan card leds( |
| 09:01.26 | kend-zaur | are so bright, i cant see which keys are which |
| 09:02.10 | wijnand | ahh you mean they physical keys |
| 09:02.26 | kend-zaur | im okay for thunb+touch typing, but im not so good with punc and, for some reason, hitinh single keys for commands (eg in Mutt) |
| 09:02.39 | kend-zaur | :) |
| 09:02.40 | wijnand | heh i just type without looking, otherwise the german keyboard with the us layout would only confuse me :P |
| 09:02.53 | wijnand | ah yeah the fn-combos can be tricky |
| 09:03.24 | kend-zaur | hehehe |
| 09:04.21 | wijnand | hmmm the z wont install konq from the opie 0.9.9 feed... says the files arent there |
| 09:04.23 | wijnand | although they are |
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| 09:20.32 | zar | downloan em and copy them to /root/Documents on the zaurus and install them locally |
| 09:23.50 | kend-zaur | cya |
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| 09:54.55 | wijnand | I just installed Opera on OZ but it doesn't display pictures for the buttons, even though they're there (/opt/QtPalmtop/opera/buttons) does anyone know what the problem could be? |
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| 13:33.02 | XavierXeon | what is happening to eaongames.com ? |
| 13:33.13 | XavierXeon | err.... eongames that is |
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| 14:00.19 | wijnand | I just installed Opera on OZ but it doesn't display pictures for the buttons, even though they're there (/opt/QtPalmtop/opera/buttons) does anyone know what the problem could be? |
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| 14:05.05 | Solar[X] | You might need libpng or libjpeg. |
| 14:05.14 | Solar[X] | Libpng I think, but I'm not sure. |
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| 14:50.02 | wijnand | Solar[X]: sorry i was afk, thanks i'll try it :) |
| 14:50.17 | Solar[X] | Heh ok |
| 14:52.40 | wijnand | hmmm i have both installed |
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| 14:58.18 | Solar[X] | What did you use to convert it to OZ? |
| 14:58.36 | Solar[X] | Did you rip it from rom 3.1 using the creator package? |
| 14:58.41 | Solar[X] | That's how I got it. |
| 14:59.09 | wijnand | in fact i installed the ipk that comes with the crow adaption of the sharp 3.10 rom (they removed it due to space considerations and offer the ipk on their site) |
| 14:59.37 | Solar[X] | Hm I don't know if that will work out of the box.. |
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| 15:03.09 | Solar[X] | Hm ldd would be nice to have atm. |
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| 15:04.27 | Solar[X] | Eh I can maybe send you my .ipk. |
| 15:05.12 | wijnand | it works |
| 15:05.24 | Solar[X] | Ohh - what did you do? |
| 15:05.26 | wijnand | ln -s /opt/QtPalmtop/opera /usr/share/opera |
| 15:05.34 | Solar[X] | Hm nifty. |
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| 15:37.02 | tunemx | hi |
| 15:39.27 | djk | anybody using the ambicom wifi with the sharp 3.10? |
| 15:49.51 | djk | quiet channel today |
| 15:50.01 | tunemx | i am here |
| 15:50.08 | tunemx | but i dont hae any wifi :( |
| 15:57.13 | djk | bummer :-( |
| 15:58.01 | djk | just sent Ambicom a message maybe they know. I recalling seeing something on DHCP timing needing correction on the 3.10 ROM but can't find it again |
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| 20:02.07 | zZz | hi! |
| 20:02.48 | wijnand | hi z |
| 20:03.32 | zZz | who can tell me about the limitation of use of zaurus 5500 battery? |
| 20:04.38 | zZz | wijnand: there in Holland are you zaurus supplies easy? |
| 20:06.23 | wijnand | nope :) |
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| 20:07.31 | zZz | well, i wait this. because in europe the zaurus supplies are bad. always we need to find shop in the states. |
| 20:08.08 | zZz | but Holland it's a 'modern' and progressive country. humm. |
| 20:08.33 | wijnand | yeah but Sharp never marketed the thing here |
| 20:08.51 | wijnand | there is a company here that has one distribution center for here and germany so they sell it anyway, and spare batteries and such |
| 20:09.50 | zZz | it's a bad thing (sharp's distribution). you can see at american buyers find c7xx in Japan. |
| 20:10.19 | wijnand | where are you from? |
| 20:10.38 | zZz | if american hav'nt we in europe can lost hope... |
| 20:10.50 | zZz | i'm from spain. |
| 20:11.23 | wijnand | ah |
| 20:11.56 | zZz | do you know? in the south... |
| 20:12.22 | wijnand | yeah of course i do |
| 20:12.38 | wijnand | we send all our football players to Barcelona remember? :P |
| 20:12.43 | zZz | it's a joke! |
| 20:12.47 | wijnand | heh |
| 20:12.52 | wijnand | uh-oh |
| 20:13.18 | zZz | i don't like football. ;-( |
| 20:13.28 | wijnand | neither do i |
| 20:13.33 | wijnand | but i'm good at topography |
| 20:13.59 | zZz | but definitely barcelona it's a great.... town! |
| 20:14.19 | wijnand | hehe |
| 20:14.37 | zZz | and soon i stay there and in the costa brava near from the french border. |
| 20:14.49 | wijnand | so what exactly do you want to know about batteries? |
| 20:15.09 | zZz | it's summertime and i have 2 TWO months of holidays |
| 20:15.55 | zZz | well, the proble it's everybody write some different approach. people write: the batteries are bad or no problem about... |
| 20:16.10 | wijnand | i see |
| 20:16.21 | wijnand | do you already have a z or are you looking for opinions before you buy? |
| 20:16.36 | zZz | and i don't know if the batteries are for change every six moth or so... |
| 20:17.06 | zZz | my zaurus it's from germany to home next week. :-) |
| 20:17.30 | wijnand | ahh :) |
| 20:17.42 | wijnand | check this out: http://www.trowcom.co.uk/Z-Batt.htm |
| 20:18.34 | zZz | and i don't need extensive use everyday. i know that web, thanks. |
| 20:19.07 | zZz | sorry, what's a price today in Holland for zaurus 5500? |
| 20:19.12 | wijnand | ah ok |
| 20:19.22 | wijnand | well i sometimes use it for whole days to take notes on, no problem |
| 20:19.39 | wijnand | but games sometimes can be a drain (yeah i know, i'm not that surprised) |
| 20:19.48 | zZz | o.k. that my task! |
| 20:20.02 | wijnand | what? |
| 20:20.12 | zZz | no games, no video, work. |
| 20:20.33 | zZz | work and some times the net. |
| 20:20.55 | zZz | what's your opinion about wifi cards? |
| 20:21.05 | wijnand | well if you would put it in the cradle every night to recharge you'll never need to worry much |
| 20:21.15 | wijnand | wifi, i've looked at the asus card, seems nice |
| 20:21.35 | wijnand | but they can be a big drain on batteries |
| 20:21.46 | zZz | thanks, i read the usenet news and i know it's the universal solution. |
| 20:22.05 | zZz | asus, sound to me mothercard. |
| 20:22.06 | wijnand | if i would stay at this uni longer (i'll leave in two months) i'd get one because we have a wireless lan |
| 20:22.17 | wijnand | yeah they make a lot |
| 20:22.24 | wijnand | let me give you a url |
| 20:22.38 | wijnand | http://www.asus.com/products/communication/wireless/wl-110/overview.htm |
| 20:22.58 | wijnand | they also make great notebooks but that's a different matter :) |
| 20:23.09 | wijnand | and a nice pda, although that coems with microsoft pocketpc |
| 20:23.40 | zZz | how much money? i can't see at web. |
| 20:25.33 | wijnand | here it's 76 euro |
| 20:26.21 | zZz | you can buy cheap. http://cgi.es.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3032023573&category=20321&rd=1 |
| 20:26.52 | zZz | and it's a new card fully compatible with zaurus. |
| 20:27.31 | zZz | people told me about cheap prism 2.5 cards. but the power consum it's high... |
| 20:29.01 | zZz | or http://cgi.es.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3031864155&category=3728&rd=1 |
| 20:29.40 | wijnand | i see |
| 20:29.46 | zZz | and? |
| 20:29.54 | wijnand | yeah power is always the big problem |
| 20:30.28 | wijnand | and i dont really believe there is much difference between any card with the same prism chip so you might as well get the cheapest |
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| 20:30.41 | zZz | but if you don't use too much time i think it's irrelevant. |
| 20:30.59 | wijnand | yeah |
| 20:31.31 | zZz | the symbol card or the socket are very expensive cause the low power consum. |
| 20:31.44 | wijnand | ahh |
| 20:32.12 | zZz | maybe 'propaganda' i don't know. i bought an 'english' card last week. |
| 20:32.31 | wijnand | i don't know about them |
| 20:32.50 | zZz | it's cheap and the card have intersil chip (prism). |
| 20:33.40 | zZz | at home we're two orinoco cards and smc access point. without problems until today. |
| 20:34.51 | zZz | and a canadian SuperPass 8 dBi antenna... |
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| 20:36.53 | zZz | wijnand: where town in Holland? |
| 20:37.07 | wijnand | enschede |
| 20:38.08 | zZz | hum, i've this year a student from Holland. Vervoort. i don't know the town is... near from Rotterdam maybe. |
| 20:38.34 | wijnand | i have no idea really hehe |
| 20:39.16 | zZz | two years ago i take a flight to Houston,TX there in Amsterdam airport. |
| 20:39.57 | zZz | i've a very good impression there. modern and too safe, clean ... |
| 20:40.32 | zZz | definitely, Holland it's a beautiful country an an open society. |
| 20:40.45 | zZz | do you think? |
| 20:43.46 | zZz | bye i cut for dinner. i know isn't european time but we next to africa asume south traditions. bye. |
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| 21:04.42 | DrBoB | <evil_pinky> hmmmmmm.....</evil_pinky> |
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