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| 00:55.25 | Pendalar | dang it |
| 00:56.03 | Pendalar | I hate when ZSI goes non updated for a few days, then it gets updated and overflows the index, and I have to parse the DB to see what I missed |
| 00:56.43 | Pendalar | I'm glad though that ZSI2 has a longer list |
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| 01:05.03 | cleverdra | Can the Palm SD cards (with X amount of games, bible stuff, etc -- the retail stuff) be accessed by the Z, or does copyright protection prevent this? Is there any way to format such (unreadable-as-bought) cards for storage? |
| 01:10.16 | Pendalar | there's no copyright protection the Z I believe |
| 01:10.26 | Pendalar | and yes you can reformat cards |
| 01:10.33 | Pendalar | I prefer ext2 on the Z |
| 01:10.51 | Pendalar | as far as 'accessing' them as in using them there is a Palm OS emu but it may be slow |
| 01:11.07 | Pendalar | but Palm data and Z data can happily coexist on the same card |
| 01:11.10 | Pendalar | as long as you don't format it |
| 01:11.31 | Pendalar | no 'unreadable-as-bought' cards should exist though unless it's a buggy chip |
| 01:11.59 | Pendalar | linux supports basically any filesystem you throw at it, even the FAT types that the cards generally are to begin with |
| 01:12.30 | Pendalar | if Palm OS formats it to a funky format ya you might have to format it though |
| 01:12.33 | Pendalar | I didn't think it did |
| 01:12.40 | Pendalar | but it's been a long time since I've used one |
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| 01:33.01 | cleverdra | Well, maybe I should actually try to mount the thing instead of wondering why it isn't auto-mounted. |
| 01:34.43 | cleverdra | hm, the Z just froze. How odd. |
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| 01:39.58 | wardriver | what does one have to do to get airsnort on an opie zaurus? set up cross compile capibility? |
| 01:40.38 | mutexer | anyone here speak japanese? |
| 01:41.00 | cleverdra | mutexer - I don't, but why do you ask? |
| 01:41.24 | mutexer | trying to translate something |
| 01:42.13 | cleverdra | You're translating some Japanese in roman-letter phonetics? |
| 01:42.33 | kergoth | ibot: nslookup libsdl.org |
| 01:43.39 | mutexer | Im learning japanese.. trying to see if Im getting it correctly |
| 01:44.01 | wardriver | setting up network profiles with opies default manager doesn't seem to work, is there another? |
| 01:44.11 | kergoth | wardriver: no. |
| 01:44.31 | kergoth | wardriver: profiles are in fact disabled in current versions, until the functionality is fixed. |
| 01:44.42 | wardriver | daggone it, how are we supposed to switch between networks? |
| 01:45.00 | kergoth | carefully? |
| 01:45.10 | wardriver | tediously and often... |
| 01:45.25 | kergoth | its a linux box, you can do it |
| 01:45.32 | kergoth | read up on debian's /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:45.36 | kergoth | it supports so called 'mappings' |
| 01:45.43 | kergoth | which are how networksettings tried to implement profiles |
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| 01:45.46 | kergoth | it just wasnt done properly |
| 01:45.50 | kergoth | you can set it up manually |
| 01:46.11 | wardriver | i'd like to compile some packages on my zaurus but when i try the ./configure option, it doesn't seem to work correclty |
| 01:46.23 | kergoth | did you install a compiler? |
| 01:46.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:46.45 | wardriver | no... whats an ipkg for c? |
| 01:47.05 | kergoth | ibot: zsi gcc |
| 01:47.17 | kergoth | wardriver: killefiz.de/zaurus |
| 01:47.20 | kergoth | go there |
| 01:47.21 | wardriver | thanks |
| 01:47.23 | kergoth | np |
| 01:47.39 | wardriver | so anyone running the experimental debian linux on the zaurus? |
| 01:47.52 | kergoth | ibot: bitchslap sourceforge |
| 01:47.54 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sourceforge |
| 01:48.03 | kergoth | wardriver: you can install .deb's with ipkg into OZ |
| 01:48.08 | Xumbi | I hope to install it tomorrow when I get my 256MB SD |
| 01:48.10 | kergoth | wardriver: so using debian doesnt gain you much |
| 01:48.29 | wardriver | how do you install a .deb with ipkg? |
| 01:48.38 | kergoth | the same way you install a .ipk |
| 01:48.42 | kergoth | ipkg install blah.deb |
| 01:48.45 | kergoth | ipkg install -d sd blah.deb |
| 01:48.46 | kergoth | what have you |
| 01:48.58 | wardriver | no kiddin, cool , i'll have to give that a try... |
| 01:49.01 | Xumbi | I'm looking forward to a full unix system, none of this busybox business |
| 01:49.45 | kergoth | 'full unix system' |
| 01:49.50 | cleverdra | Xumbi - so install the non-busybox-business. |
| 01:49.56 | Xumbi | yeah |
| 01:49.59 | kergoth | cleverdra: exactly |
| 01:50.02 | DaWorm | hehe |
| 01:50.13 | Xumbi | for each command? that would take forever |
| 01:50.19 | DaWorm | kergoth: you started work already? |
| 01:50.22 | kergoth | DaWorm: yeah |
| 01:50.25 | DaWorm | ahhh |
| 01:50.36 | DaWorm | kergoth: TI texas is our client for sparc stuff |
| 01:50.41 | kergoth | DaWorm: ah, cool |
| 01:50.47 | DaWorm | kergoth: TI philippines for OMAP stuff |
| 01:51.00 | cleverdra | My idea is to leave busybox as a backup, put the larger binaries on my 256M CF, and then set up my bloated unix shell (on RAM) to try the CF card binaries first. |
| 01:51.00 | kergoth | omap is spiffy. |
| 01:51.10 | cleverdra | zsh? |
| 01:51.28 | Xumbi | sounds good |
| 01:53.49 | TheMasterMind1 | TI sends me free samples for my electronics projects |
| 01:54.10 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: not that way |
| 01:54.17 | TheMasterMind1 | the best part is the notice on the receipt: "THIS IS A SAMPLE. NO PAYMENT IS REQUIRED. PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE PAYMENT FOR THESE ITEMS" |
| 01:54.26 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hehe |
| 01:54.34 | TheMasterMind1 | and they ship it all next day air too |
| 01:54.38 | TheMasterMind1 | great stuff |
| 01:54.40 | chouimat | kergoth: can I have a free omap development board </knee begging> |
| 01:54.50 | kergoth | chouimat: dood, i dont even have a dev board yet |
| 01:54.52 | kergoth | chouimat: much less you |
| 01:54.54 | kergoth | chouimat: :) |
| 01:55.01 | chouimat | kergoth: lol |
| 01:58.06 | ljp_laptop | kergoth doesnt even have his own desk yet |
| 01:58.14 | kergoth | exactly |
| 01:59.02 | chouimat | kergoth: not yet? |
| 01:59.06 | kergoth | not yet |
| 01:59.50 | chouimat | kergoth: well I waited 3 months in the provincial gov .... (and my contract was 3 months) |
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| 02:00.11 | kergoth | damn |
| 02:00.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:00.25 | kergoth | its 9:00? fuck, i'm outta here |
| 02:00.36 | treke|home | haha |
| 02:00.44 | treke|home | welcome to the world of people who like what thy do :p |
| 02:01.19 | chouimat | ttre |
| 02:01.22 | chouimat | treke|home: ? |
| 02:05.50 | ljp_laptop | hehe |
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| 02:49.59 | Pendalar | mutexer: why not use babelfish? |
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| 02:53.52 | mutexer | cause its not accurate.. Ive already got what I needed done anyway |
| 02:56.20 | wardriver | bah |
| 02:56.28 | wardriver | lipbcap0.7 isn't anywhere other than source |
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| 04:07.37 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 04:25.05 | kendrick | where are the good places to get SL-5500's cheap? |
| 04:26.04 | kendrick | anyone? anyone? |
| 04:26.04 | warmi | tigerdirect |
| 04:26.55 | warmi | uh .. never mind .. I think they don't sell Zs anymore |
| 04:27.17 | kendrick | ah :^( |
| 04:27.48 | kendrick | cya! |
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| 04:45.55 | zauruslover | hey there anyone got a C7xx working with the Netgear card MA701 ? |
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| 04:54.02 | zauruslover | amazing ! no one in the Z world has tried the MA701 Wi-Fi card ? |
| 04:54.19 | zauruslover | plz help if you have ... even with the 55/5600 |
| 04:56.00 | aTypical | Sorry zauruslover. I have the d-link. |
| 04:58.16 | DaWorm | i have a linksys :( |
| 04:58.40 | zauruslover | :( |
| 04:59.06 | zauruslover | I have the MA701 which I picked up $19.99 (After mail in rebates) ... and have read that it has worked flawlessly for some people |
| 04:59.23 | zauruslover | it doesnt with my C750 :( ... my bad luck I guess |
| 04:59.43 | zauruslover | probably need to tweak the wlan-ng.conf |
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| 05:14.44 | zauruslover | TMM1 : Have you a Netgear card ? |
| 05:15.28 | TMM1 | no |
| 05:16.31 | zauruslover | ok no worries |
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| 06:38.44 | krezel | hola |
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| 06:53.28 | chrionix | ibot seen DaWorm |
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| 07:12.23 | chrionix | Has anyone managed to overclock a zaurus? |
| 07:12.53 | wijnand | the thought had not crossed my mind |
| 07:12.54 | zap-zero | *sigh* |
| 07:13.12 | zap-zero | i'd rather like to underclock it to waste less battery |
| 07:13.23 | wijnand | zap-zero: the 5500 or 5600? |
| 07:13.36 | zap-zero | 5000D |
| 07:13.41 | wijnand | ah |
| 07:13.41 | zap-zero | so pretty the same as 5500 |
| 07:13.44 | wijnand | yeah |
| 07:14.02 | wijnand | would be nice to have a tool that makes the cpu run slower when you're just using pim apps |
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| 10:13.34 | wijnand | has anyone ever tried the Crow/Cacko ROM? |
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| 13:02.35 | NoRemorse | heya |
| 13:02.59 | NoRemorse | I just ran ipkg on my zaurus for the first time ina few months and it *wiped my zaurus* |
| 13:03.13 | NoRemorse | it now doesnt boot, looks like rm -r / |
| 13:11.56 | Pendalar | reflash, upgrading the full system at once is not really wise |
| 13:12.21 | Pendalar | not enough free space, ram, etc.. tight dependancies.. new pkgs might not be retro compatible |
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| 13:13.02 | _YAku | hello |
| 13:13.07 | NoRemorse | heya |
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| 13:13.25 | _YAku | I've been wondering, has anyone encountered any problem using kismet with Sharp ROM 3.10 yet? |
| 13:14.40 | _YAku | because, since I upgraded to 3.10, i've re-installed kismet, and whenever i start it, it keeps saying 'cannot find (or connect) to server' ? |
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| 13:16.48 | NoRemorse | re |
| 13:17.45 | _YAku | re noremorse |
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| 13:19.52 | chouimat | morning |
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| 13:45.37 | _YAku | so! anyone around? |
| 13:45.58 | savant | I'm not terribly round myself. |
| 13:46.18 | _YAku | oohoh ;) |
| 13:46.24 | _YAku | do you use sharp rom 3.10? |
| 13:46.55 | savant | yes, for almost two weeks now |
| 13:48.00 | _YAku | yep! i like it very much compared to the old one... but say, do you have a wifi card? are you using kismet with that 3.10? it seems to be buggy on my side :( |
| 13:48.22 | savant | I've tried kismet, but I can't get it to collect any data. |
| 13:48.37 | savant | From what I've read, it's a problem with the way networking is done in the 3.1 rom |
| 13:49.34 | savant | some people have gotten it going, but I have yet to manage myself |
| 13:49.47 | _YAku | ahh-HA! I knew there was a problem! :S |
| 13:50.12 | _YAku | hrmm any words from the dev team about ths bug? |
| 13:50.34 | NoRemorse | as if sharp would care |
| 13:50.48 | savant | None that I've heard. I am not certain it's a bug, it's just a difference. I think it will probably require an update to kismet |
| 13:51.28 | _YAku | yes.. that's why the dev ought to know ;) |
| 13:51.49 | _YAku | or at least, the documentation... to tricks our installation into something usable |
| 13:53.25 | _YAku | NoRemorse: I was refering to the kismet dev team... nevermind sharp |
| 13:53.47 | savant | ah. I mistook your meaning to be sharo as well |
| 13:53.48 | NoRemorse | ah hehe sorry, join #kismet then :) |
| 13:54.05 | savant | *sharp |
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| 13:54.26 | _YAku | oh AH |
| 13:54.26 | _YAku | hrmm I didn't know there was such a channel... :) |
| 13:54.43 | _YAku | nice thanks :P |
| 13:55.42 | NoRemorse | :) |
| 13:55.46 | NoRemorse | catcha |
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| 15:46.51 | warmi | hi |
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| 17:25.59 | treke | so, how big a pain in the ass is handango? |
| 17:26.23 | warmi | uh ? |
| 17:26.38 | warmi | they are actually pretty decent |
| 17:26.40 | ariya | anyone knows about usb driver problem in xp |
| 17:26.53 | warmi | at least compared to say pocketgear.com |
| 17:27.09 | treke | trying to decide whether or not it worths the trouble to put an app on handango for the 20 bucks I'll make if i'm lucky :p |
| 17:27.56 | warmi | it is not a big deal at all.. fill their online form .. submit the product ( basically another form ) upload your stuff and that's it |
| 17:28.40 | warmi | it is just a bit more complicated then creating a new account on mail.yahoo |
| 17:28.41 | warmi | but not much |
| 17:29.28 | warmi | what do you want to sell ? |
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| 17:30.27 | warmi | uh ... make it "doughecka _wants_ to sell warmi a 10 dollar bill for 11 bucks .. " |
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| 17:30.41 | doughecka | :P |
| 17:30.49 | oGMo | i'll sell you a collector's edition quarter for $50 |
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| 17:31.15 | oGMo | i've also got a some beach front property you might be interested in |
| 17:31.18 | doughecka | Signoff: Neo|Work ("Good bye and thanks for all the fish") shoold be Signoff: Neo|Work ("So long and thanks for all the fish") |
| 17:31.19 | oGMo | it's in montana |
| 17:31.27 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:33.38 | warmi | well, the way things are going in California , some day montana will indeed have some nice beach properties for sale |
| 17:34.00 | doughecka | hehehehehe |
| 17:34.13 | Neo|Work | doughecka: who says it's supposed to be a quote? ;-) |
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| 17:34.53 | doughecka | yea |
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| 17:50.32 | ps | hi.how can i do the following characters unsing the buildin keyboard : [] and {} ? |
| 17:52.16 | warmi | http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/zaurus-faq/sections/character_input.php3 |
| 17:53.08 | ps | http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/zaurus-faq/sections/character_input.php3 |
| 17:53.08 | ps | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.15 | ps | sorry :D |
| 17:57.32 | ps | hmm doens't work. i think its because i installed debian onto the zaurus. i am not using qtopia. only console. and the kernel keymapping |
| 18:00.06 | warmi | oh then I don't know ... |
| 18:00.36 | ps | ok |
| 18:00.39 | ps | thx anyway |
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| 21:56.58 | zauruslover | hi there ... I need some help with my MA701 Netgear Wi-Fi card ... I've been asking over the last couple of days but have not got info to make it work with my C750 yet ... |
| 21:57.13 | zauruslover | Is there anyone here who has it working with the C700 or C750 ? Maybe even the 5600 ? |
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| 21:58.30 | zauruslover | and if so, can someone help me troubleshoot ? |
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| 22:21.37 | davoid | I'm about to get my zaurus in 2-3 days, and wondering if one would use the standard java runtime or the j2me technologies.. |
| 22:21.50 | davoid | I mean its powerful enough for standard edition, no? |
| 22:22.01 | davoid | I have some java swing applications that I want to run on it |
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| 22:22.16 | davoid | using javax.swing and java.awt from the J2SE JDK |
| 22:22.21 | Twiun | you can't |
| 22:22.30 | Twiun | you need arm binaries for it |
| 22:22.40 | davoid | oh... |
| 22:22.44 | davoid | so no java on the zaurus? |
| 22:23.12 | Twiun | there is j2me for the arm |
| 22:23.17 | Twiun | Sun's early access |
| 22:23.30 | davoid | does it have swing? |
| 22:23.39 | Twiun | alas, swing is too slow |
| 22:23.43 | Twiun | way too slow |
| 22:23.48 | davoid | that's what I don't like :\ |
| 22:23.58 | zauruslover | davoid ... which model did you go for ? |
| 22:24.00 | Twiun | there are other gui toolkits you can use |
| 22:24.02 | davoid | single-threaded design |
| 22:24.11 | davoid | zauruslover 5500. ordered it already :-) |
| 22:24.15 | davoid | Twiun for java? |
| 22:24.20 | Twiun | davoid: the slowness of swing is the memory use and the heavy dependency on floatingpoint math |
| 22:24.23 | Twiun | davoid: yes |
| 22:24.30 | davoid | Twiun I think i'll stick to QT then.. if java swing is absent.. |
| 22:24.32 | Twiun | davoid: other lightweight toolkits on top of awt |
| 22:24.56 | davoid | but C++ apps are fast, isn't it? |
| 22:24.58 | Twiun | davoid: http://adorphuye.com/zaurus/java/faq.jsp?section=Miscellaneous&subsection=Class+Libraries |
| 22:25.00 | Twiun | yup |
| 22:25.06 | Twiun | c++ apps are fast |
| 22:25.17 | davoid | I'll just learn C++ then.. wanted a reason to learn it too :-P |
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| 22:25.28 | zauruslover | davoid : oh ok ... just got my C750 3 weeks ago |
| 22:25.47 | davoid | zauruslover can I see what it looks like? |
| 22:25.58 | davoid | zauruslover I bought mine over ebay... |
| 22:26.20 | davoid | Twiun but the QT on the zaurus is it like.. full or what's missing? |
| 22:26.20 | zauruslover | davoid : Guess you've already seen the Japanese sites right ? |
| 22:26.31 | davoid | zauruslover not really. only saw the 5500 and 5600 |
| 22:26.31 | zauruslover | oh ok |
| 22:26.41 | zauruslover | davoid : Ok ... have a look at : |
| 22:26.49 | Twiun | davoid: Qt on the Z is Qt-Embedded... Qt 2.3.5 |
| 22:26.54 | Twiun | davoid: _not_ Qt3 |
| 22:27.01 | davoid | not a problem either :P |
| 22:27.15 | Twiun | cool |
| 22:27.28 | Twiun | davoid: look at docs.zaurus.com and www.openzaurus.org |
| 22:27.29 | davoid | and what about whatever qt-e runs on.. is it a scaled-down X server or what..? |
| 22:27.47 | zauruslover | davoid : http://sharp-world.com/corporate/news/030516.html : |
| 22:28.04 | Twiun | davoid: no, qte uses Qtopia |
| 22:28.45 | davoid | zauruslover remember having seen it before. but no money for that baby ;) |
| 22:28.49 | Twiun | davoid: direct framebuffer |
| 22:29.00 | davoid | cool |
| 22:29.01 | zauruslover | hmmm |
| 22:29.02 | zauruslover | :) |
| 22:29.45 | davoid | Twiun thanks fo the answers :-P |
| 22:29.51 | Twiun | no problem |
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| 22:33.48 | zauruslover | hi there ... I need some help with my MA701 Netgear Wi-Fi card ... I've been asking over the last couple of days but have not got info to make it work with my C750 yet ... |
| 22:34.17 | davoid | zauruslover my Netgear, my C750 -- you really love your zaurus don't you ;-) |
| 22:34.53 | zauruslover | Questions : what chipset does it use - Prism2 / Orinoco2 ? and whats the manfid etc to plug into the wlan-ng.conf file ? |
| 22:34.58 | zauruslover | davoid :) .... hahahah |
| 22:35.16 | zauruslover | is that sort of into anywhere on the web ? |
| 22:36.33 | TMM1 | gooogle |
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| 22:38.19 | zauruslover | TMM1 : Only 3 hits and they don't have the info :( ... though one of them suggests it works with orinoco_cs |
| 22:38.57 | zauruslover | IT is difficult for me to believe that there is no one out there who is using a 5500/5600/700/750 with the MA701 |
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| 22:39.26 | zauruslover | I tried connecting with the MA701 card but am not able to |
| 22:39.41 | zauruslover | using orinoco_cs |
| 22:42.29 | TMM1 | i get 266 hits |
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| 22:45.06 | zauruslover | whats the search criteria ? I gave MA701 manfid |
| 22:45.59 | TMM1 | zauruslover: oh, i got it |
| 22:46.03 | TMM1 | zauruslover: cardctl ident |
| 22:46.05 | TMM1 | on your c750 |
| 22:46.06 | TMM1 | paste output |
| 22:48.12 | zauruslover | ok cool ... and then I add all that to the wlan-ng.conf file and it should work ? |
| 22:48.42 | TMM1 | no |
| 22:48.48 | TMM1 | paste it here |
| 22:48.51 | TMM1 | so i can tell you what to do |
| 22:49.04 | zauruslover | :) |
| 22:49.12 | zauruslover | Socket 0 : |
| 22:49.44 | zauruslover | product info: "NEATGEAR", "MA701 Wireless CF Card", "" |
| 22:49.57 | TMM1 | hah |
| 22:50.00 | TMM1 | NEAT? |
| 22:50.01 | zauruslover | manfid: 0xd601, 0x0002 |
| 22:50.26 | zauruslover | oops NETGEAR |
| 22:50.29 | TMM1 | k |
| 22:50.35 | zauruslover | function: 6 (network) |
| 22:50.52 | Xystance | Instead of typing it, just install openssh and ssh into the zaurus, so you can paste stuff. :) |
| 22:51.02 | zauruslover | whats the empty "" at the end of "product info" ? |
| 22:51.42 | zauruslover | hahah yeah but curently OpenSSH breaks the Calendar on the C750 (if you go to the Month View mode and the Calendar crashes) |
| 22:52.44 | treke | openssh beaks the calender.... |
| 22:52.46 | TMM1 | zauruslover: hmm, ok so do: |
| 22:52.48 | TMM1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.02 | zauruslover | in wlan-ng.conf correct ? |
| 22:53.11 | TMM1 | manfid 0xd601, 0x0002 |
| 22:53.16 | TMM1 | bind "orinoco_cs" |
| 22:53.20 | TMM1 | no, not wlan |
| 22:53.29 | TMM1 | in /etc/pcmcia/config or something |
| 22:53.36 | TMM1 | not sure how its laid out in the sharp rom |
| 22:53.42 | Xystance | Treke : What are you talking about, openssh breaking what calendar? |
| 22:53.48 | treke | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.49 | TMM1 | cd /etc/pcmcia; grep orinoco *; |
| 22:53.51 | TMM1 | what files |
| 22:54.01 | Xystance | With 2.38 and 3.10, I have had openssh running successfully without a problem with my calendar... |
| 22:54.11 | treke | scroll up and read |
| 22:54.19 | Xystance | Ok, i'm lagged a bit, my apologies |
| 22:56.05 | zauruslover | ok, I see orinoco in /etc/pcmcia in config, spectrum.conf files |
| 22:56.35 | TMM1 | zauruslover: ok so add to config |
| 22:57.13 | zauruslover | but in there (config file) the only thing I see is device "orinoco_cs" class "network" module "hermes", "orinoco", "orinoco_cs" |
| 22:57.26 | zauruslover | all the "card stuff you mention is in wlan-ng.conf |
| 22:57.33 | TMM1 | um |
| 22:57.33 | TMM1 | ok |
| 22:57.35 | TMM1 | whatever |
| 22:57.38 | TMM1 | make it work |
| 22:57.39 | TMM1 | heh |
| 22:57.39 | zauruslover | let me try that :) |
| 22:57.43 | TMM1 | try both places |
| 22:57.46 | zauruslover | yup |
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| 22:59.00 | NetAmp | yo ppl |
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| 23:00.04 | NetAmp | who knows where to find an MPEG plugin for Opie Player 2 ? |
| 23:02.05 | lon | How's the 3.10 ROM image holding up for everyone? |
| 23:03.39 | TMM1 | USE OPENZAURUS |
| 23:05.32 | Xystance | lon : It seems to be doing very nicely. |
| 23:06.00 | Xystance | With the exception of a lack of a USB TCP/IP adapter built in (With some editing of files it can be done easily) it's held up damn nicely. |
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| 23:07.02 | Xystance | It's -much- easier to connect to disparate wireless networks now, and opera accepts popups/second windows if you let it |
| 23:07.09 | lon | nice |
| 23:07.28 | lon | heard it shuts down the CF wireless cards when they're not in use, too |
| 23:07.30 | Xystance | Everything else is just eyecandy. |
| 23:07.32 | lon | (saves battery) |
| 23:07.47 | lon | going to upgrade tonight. |
| 23:07.49 | Xystance | lon : Yep, just click the disconnect in the network applet in the tray and it will disconnect. |
| 23:08.03 | NetAmp | is that the Sharp ROM? |
| 23:08.10 | lon | finally got the time... or thought I had one :) figures I'd spend an extra 3 hours at work chasing some bug down ;) |
| 23:08.11 | Xystance | Oh, and it comes with VNC viewer, but that's so easy to install it's not really a feature. :) Opera also does pdf, so you don't need to use the pdf viewer app that renders text poorly |
| 23:08.18 | Xystance | Netamp, ya, the 3.10 rom. |
| 23:08.19 | lon | Xystance: nod... |
| 23:08.36 | NetAmp | okay... I run OpenZaurus 3.2 |
| 23:08.43 | lon | Almost obviates the need for all syncing =) |
| 23:08.50 | Xystance | True. :) |
| 23:09.04 | lon | 'k, it's really time to go home. |
| 23:09.05 | lon | night! |
| 23:09.10 | Xystance | I liked OZ when I used it. :) |
| 23:09.22 | NetAmp | I like most of it |
| 23:09.23 | Xystance | I only switched when the 3.10 rom came out. |
| 23:09.28 | NetAmp | and it's gonna get way better :D |
| 23:09.41 | NetAmp | just hate that my OP2 doesn't have the right MPEG codec |
| 23:09.54 | NetAmp | hehe |
| 23:10.05 | Xystance | NetAmp, can you get mplayer on OZ? |
| 23:10.12 | NetAmp | dunnow... |
| 23:10.14 | Xystance | 'cause thanks to libavcodec/ffmpeg, it'll pretty much play anything, everywhere... |
| 23:10.41 | NetAmp | :D |
| 23:10.46 | Xystance | I use it instead of the built in media player. there's even a little Java frontend written for it that puts it in a little gui so you don't have to commandline it. |
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| 23:12.01 | Solar[X] | Xmms uses mplayer nicely. |
| 23:12.16 | NetAmp | sweet |
| 23:12.34 | Xystance | Back with the Sharp 2.38 rom, I never got xmms running correctly... and I forgot to try it with OZ... Solar[X]. what are you using it with? |
| 23:12.41 | Solar[X] | OZ 32 |
| 23:12.45 | Solar[X] | 3.2 even |
| 23:12.48 | Xystance | ?0 |
| 23:12.51 | Xystance | Ah. :) |
| 23:13.10 | Solar[X] | I needed to get libstdc++ before xmms would run though... got it from the familiar feed. |
| 23:13.26 | Solar[X] | Since OZ for some reason doesn't have it., |
| 23:13.52 | Xystance | Something I never really have configured is feeds... is there a list of common software feeds somewhere? |
| 23:14.37 | Solar[X] | I don't know... but openzaurus.org has a list for all 3 OZ feeds, and familiar has links to theirs on their site. |
| 23:14.51 | cleverdra | ...and better feed-browsing software than Qtopia Desktop? |
| 23:15.04 | Solar[X] | Basically you should always use the eh, "native" feed but sometimes it doesn't suffice :P |
| 23:15.26 | Solar[X] | Hm I just browse them with opera and wget them. |
| 23:15.30 | cleverdra | If I had a tiny CF card for flashing, I'd be tempted to just put everything I can find on my 256M-as |
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| 23:15.39 | cleverdra | as-ext2 and write something of my own. |
| 23:15.42 | Xystance | I always just scp'd 'em |
| 23:15.53 | NetAmp | argh, WinXP sucks |
| 23:16.00 | yeiaway | yes |
| 23:16.02 | cleverdra | Yeah, I scp them, but for a little while I tried to use Qtopia Desktop to browse them. |
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| 23:16.20 | Xystance | Aah, ya I think that's what initially turned me off |
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| 23:17.57 | Xystance | I wouldn't have any reason to use a Windows XP computer if there was a more simple way to re-encode movies to a zaurus friendly resolution/bitrate. :) |
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| 23:18.45 | NetAmp | WinXP is just so lame |
| 23:18.49 | Solar[X] | mencode? |
| 23:18.53 | NetAmp | I'm afraid I'll have to re-install it even |
| 23:18.55 | NetAmp | argh |
| 23:18.58 | Solar[X] | I bet it does the job better than anything in Windows. |
| 23:19.28 | NetAmp | a while ago there was a Microsoft .NET guy in college |
| 23:19.39 | NetAmp | so-called 'Microsoft Evangelist' |
| 23:19.48 | NetAmp | jeesh that was weird |
| 23:19.59 | NetAmp | I brought my Tux keychain penguin just to be sure |
| 23:20.34 | NetAmp | He actually had a hard time pronouncing the word Linux :P |
| 23:21.03 | galvatr0n | i got my zaurus 5600 yesturday and im having trouble connecting to XP via USB can someone help please!! |
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| 23:21.59 | NetAmp | I just had to try 10 times to get the USB connection back up |
| 23:22.07 | cleverdra | My Z doesn't seem to see my SD card at all -- I can't even 'mke2fs /dev/mmcda1' ("No such device or address while trying to determine filesystem size"). |
| 23:22.24 | cleverdra | Any ideas on what I can do to mount my SD card? |
| 23:22.56 | Solar[X] | I had that... turned out I had inserted it upside down. |
| 23:23.36 | Solar[X] | Just to be sure... see if you can slide it out without having to press it first... if so, it's inserted wrongly :) |
| 23:23.41 | rumich | I've also seen times when the card hadn't been fully inserted.. a wiggle or too and presto. |
| 23:23.50 | cleverdra | Well, I inserted it by the diagram on the back of the SL-5500; putting it in upside-down doesn't change anything. |
| 23:24.03 | Xystance | Hey, anyone use TkcJabber by chance? |
| 23:24.05 | cleverdra | No, I have to press it first. |
| 23:24.45 | rumich | cleverda - have you ever mounted this in another device? |
| 23:24.52 | cleverdra | rumich - only a Palm. |
| 23:25.26 | cleverdra | I'm fairly sure that the SD card is OK, and inserted OK. Maybe it's not of a supported type. |
| 23:25.30 | rumich | hmmm... just wondering if you need to fdisk it... |
| 23:25.34 | cleverdra | type, er, brand. |
| 23:25.43 | rumich | I've heard of a lot of problems with sandisk sds. |
| 23:25.48 | cleverdra | rumich - 'mke2fs /dev/mmcda1'? I'll try fdisk. |
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| 23:26.22 | rumich | cleverdra - you would fdisk it, and then mke2fs it. |
| 23:26.44 | cleverdra | rumich - it doesn't see the device. |
| 23:26.57 | rumich | for example, on my z, I have an MMC permanently mounted as an ext2fs /dev/mmcda1 |
| 23:27.10 | Solar[X] | Me too. |
| 23:27.30 | rumich | hmmm... i'd verify that you can actually mount something in that slot - anything... :-) |
| 23:27.50 | cleverdra | rumich - I only have this one card to mount. |
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| 23:29.15 | rumich | cleverdra - r u running oz or a sharp flash? |
| 23:29.20 | NetAmp | hmm.. |
| 23:29.29 | NetAmp | mplayer can't open the audio codec on OZ |
| 23:29.40 | cleverdra | rumich - OZ. |
| 23:29.42 | NetAmp | it crashes |
| 23:29.52 | Solar[X] | OZ 3.2? |
| 23:30.04 | Solar[X] | I think you need a switch or something... |
| 23:30.05 | NetAmp | while OP2 only plays sound of that same mpeg |
| 23:30.07 | NetAmp | yeah 3.2 |
| 23:30.07 | cleverdra | Yes, the latest stable OZ. 3.2 |
| 23:30.17 | Solar[X] | But try to use it with xmms, it has a gui and all. |
| 23:30.20 | cleverdra | Solar - a switch? I'll ask on #openzaurus |
| 23:30.33 | Solar[X] | cleverdra: I was talking to NetAmp :) |
| 23:30.40 | cleverdra | Solar - I figured =) |
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| 23:30.53 | rumich | cleverdra - is sdmgr running? |
| 23:31.33 | ga1vatr0n | please can some1 help me connect my Z to my PC via USB so i can use my internet connection |
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| 23:33.11 | ga1vatr0n | surely someone here can help, please! |
| 23:33.50 | Solar[X] | cleverdra: if you take it out, and reinsert it, then type dmesg in a terminal, does it say something about mmcd? |
| 23:34.23 | Solar[X] | Heh I should watch both channels. |
| 23:36.43 | NetAmp | whow |
| 23:37.10 | ga1vatr0n | how do i connect to XP via usb cradle |
| 23:37.15 | NetAmp | when I type dmesg I see hex dumps of the USB failures I just had |
| 23:37.22 | NetAmp | hey it plays without sound |
| 23:37.24 | NetAmp | haha |
| 23:37.28 | cleverdra | gavitron - If I understand: you know how to connect your Z to your PC, you just want to configure both in such a way that your Z shares your PC's connection. Well... dialup or ethernet? Windows or Linux? |
| 23:38.24 | ga1vatr0n | cleverdra: that is correct i have ethernet and XP |
| 23:39.20 | NetAmp | *yawn* |
| 23:39.23 | NetAmp | l8r |
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| 23:42.10 | cleverdra | Please don't message me, gavit. |
| 23:43.01 | cleverdra | gavit - I think the first step is to enable 'internet connection sharing' in "Network and Dial-up connections" -- there are sites that describe the process, somewher. |
| 23:43.05 | cleverdra | somewhere. hm. |
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