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| 00:03.39 | b3r | hi |
| 00:03.51 | Solar[X] | Hello |
| 00:04.55 | doughecka | HI! |
| 00:05.03 | b3r | I'm testing bitchx |
| 00:06.29 | b3r | how I can see the list of people at the top or right with bitchx? |
| 00:06.57 | Solar[X] | I dunno, I'm a GUI kid. |
| 00:07.10 | b3r | ok |
| 00:07.37 | b3r | I have a blck screen only :) |
| 00:09.24 | b3r | good, I need read something before do it |
| 00:09.52 | b3r | bye |
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| 00:16.06 | doughecka | drats, I lost him |
| 00:16.44 | Solar[X] | Feh |
| 00:20.45 | chrionix | hey guys, I know this prolly sounds lame, but I can't find any info on the opie site. Can anyone tell me what packages I need to upgrade from opie 9.3 to 9.9? |
| 00:25.44 | cleverdra | How can I simulate the process of taking-my-Z-out-of-its-cradle-and-then-putting-it-back-in? This seems to be the only way to wake the USB-LAN up after it spontaneously crashes. |
| 00:28.09 | cleverdra | as joyous as I am that you derive humor from so many serious questions, dough, I feel that we would all be much happier if you would share some of the knowledge that inspires you to laugh at my lack of it. |
| 00:28.25 | doughecka | I have the same problem btw |
| 00:28.39 | doughecka | which is so funny :) |
| 00:28.44 | chrionix | I think he's laughing cause it's a problem we all have, and have no answers for. |
| 00:29.04 | cleverdra | Nobody knows why it happens, or why my connection just spontaneously started back up again? |
| 00:29.18 | doughecka | cool |
| 00:29.28 | chrionix | cleverdra: I think the only solution is to get a cf wireless card :P |
| 00:29.34 | chrionix | cleverdra: Yours started again? |
| 00:29.50 | chrionix | cleverdra: Mine crashes if I'm on the net, I think it's an MTU issue. |
| 00:30.13 | cleverdra | My Zaurus is talking to a windows 2000 box, which seems to be a factor: every time my network starts up again (through manual re-cradleization or just now, spontaneously), the OS complains that I ejected a USB device unexpectedly. |
| 00:30.18 | chrionix | but if I'm just ftp'ing between the desktop and the Z, it's okay |
| 00:30.37 | doughecka | XP solves that :P |
| 00:30.41 | doughecka | it doesnt say anything |
| 00:30.42 | doughecka | :P |
| 00:31.01 | chrionix | yeah, the whole usb link just shuts down |
| 00:31.14 | cleverdra | chrionix - yes, it started just now, for no apparent reason. |
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| 00:31.34 | redtoade | cleverdra: I have that same problem |
| 00:31.39 | chrionix | cleverdra: well, that is crazy. |
| 00:31.49 | redtoade | cleverdra: win2000 on a laptop actually |
| 00:32.04 | cleverdra | redtoade - I'm also using Windows 2000 on a laptop. |
| 00:32.06 | chrionix | once mine shuts down, it drops the ip addresses on both the Z and the desktop. |
| 00:32.21 | doughecka | XP is nicec |
| 00:32.21 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:32.26 | doughecka | it doesnt do that |
| 00:32.47 | redtoade | cleverdra: do you have problems with multiple file transfers too (although that might be an mget problem according to the documentation) |
| 00:32.51 | cleverdra | chrionix - I set the IPs on both ends statically. |
| 00:33.23 | cleverdra | red - no, I haven't noticed any problems with multiple file transfers |
| 00:33.23 | chrionix | cleverdra: yes, but if the usb link goes away, there's no interface to map an ip address to. |
| 00:33.54 | doughecka | XP does that nicely, if you unplug it, it just removes the device |
| 00:34.12 | doughecka | and when you plug it back in, the network device reapears |
| 00:34.33 | chrionix | doughecka: not here, I have to plug it in and reset the ip address |
| 00:34.39 | cleverdra | That'd be nice, but the spontaneous failure of the USB link is still odd. |
| 00:34.50 | doughecka | its the zaurus |
| 00:34.53 | doughecka | not windows |
| 00:35.00 | doughecka | I think |
| 00:35.34 | doughecka | cuz my Z wont show the usb up till I unplug and replug the Z, and sometimes I have to reboot the Z |
| 00:36.05 | chrionix | so is anyone using opie 9.9? |
| 00:36.20 | Xumbi | I am :) |
| 00:36.26 | Xumbi | it's nice |
| 00:36.36 | doughecka | where do I get opie 9.9? |
| 00:36.37 | doughecka | Lungi le cure ingrate |
| 00:36.38 | chrionix | Xumbi: How do I upgrade from 9.3? What packages do I need to get? |
| 00:37.09 | Xumbi | there are instructions on zaurus.com/dev/board somewhere |
| 00:37.17 | chrionix | doughecka: you can get it from opie.handhelds.org/openzaurus/feeds I think that's the right addy. |
| 00:37.22 | doughecka | whats so nice about it? |
| 00:37.26 | doughecka | faster? |
| 00:37.29 | doughecka | less bugs? |
| 00:37.35 | Xumbi | it's easy, just select the right feed and upgrade |
| 00:37.35 | doughecka | prettyness? :P |
| 00:38.01 | Xumbi | seems faster, better looking fonts |
| 00:38.19 | doughecka | hm |
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| 00:40.49 | Xumbi | it's definitely worth upgrading for |
| 00:40.56 | doughecka | bad link |
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| 00:53.10 | Xumbi | anyone here have experience with a 256MB SimpleTech SD card? |
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| 01:01.32 | doughecka | I FOUND YOU!! |
| 01:01.51 | find_me | doughecka: heckaman, first you invite then you kick. |
| 01:02.02 | doughecka | hm? |
| 01:02.02 | doughecka | ? |
| 01:02.06 | doughecka | oh, lol |
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| 01:08.13 | doughecka | hey, its a nice dude |
| 01:08.18 | zaurus_lover | hi anyone got their C750 working with Netgear MA701 ? |
| 01:08.28 | zaurus_lover | doughecka !!!! yo man ... how are you ? |
| 01:08.44 | doughecka | dunno, how am I? am I bleeding? |
| 01:08.54 | doughecka | nope, no blood |
| 01:09.01 | zaurus_lover | need some martian blood instead ? :O) |
| 01:09.13 | zaurus_lover | hahah |
| 01:09.19 | doughecka | how did you guess? |
| 01:09.29 | zaurus_lover | well well thats another story |
| 01:09.37 | doughecka | huh |
| 01:09.46 | zaurus_lover | hey I can't get MA701 working with my 750 ... |
| 01:09.50 | zaurus_lover | anyone got any tips ? |
| 01:09.58 | doughecka | I dont |
| 01:10.01 | zaurus_lover | the card is recognized but doesn't connect |
| 01:10.43 | zaurus_lover | i've tried SocketComms LPE card, Ambicom, DCF-660W and now MA701 ... |
| 01:10.52 | zaurus_lover | and also WCF12 |
| 01:10.58 | zaurus_lover | WCF12 is a HOG !! |
| 01:11.06 | zaurus_lover | 20 mins at most on wireless |
| 01:11.42 | zaurus_lover | Socketcom gives me a "Low Signal" warning ... Ambicom doesn't work always ... so settled for the MA701 for which I got a deal |
| 01:12.44 | zaurus_lover | maybe I should also try the OE channel if someone there can give me tips |
| 01:14.05 | zaurus_lover | why is this channel so quiet these days ? |
| 01:14.24 | doughecka | dunno :) |
| 01:14.53 | zaurus_lover | geez ... you better carry some perfume with u ... |
| 01:15.05 | doughecka | see? I scare them off |
| 01:15.08 | zaurus_lover | hey where are you located dude ? |
| 01:15.09 | zaurus_lover | hahaha |
| 01:15.19 | doughecka | the IS |
| 01:15.20 | doughecka | US |
| 01:15.22 | doughecka | earth |
| 01:15.24 | doughecka | sol |
| 01:15.26 | zaurus_lover | i mean where in US ? |
| 01:15.29 | doughecka | milky way |
| 01:15.30 | zaurus_lover | yeah yeah |
| 01:15.32 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:15.35 | doughecka | kentucky |
| 01:15.47 | zaurus_lover | i'm in your neighborhood as far as earth, sol, mw are concerned :) |
| 01:15.52 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:15.59 | zaurus_lover | aah i see ... me in sunny california |
| 01:16.05 | doughecka | ah |
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| 01:19.43 | zaurus_lover | hey when I click the connect icon, obviously there are things happening in the background ... where can I see a log of those protocol exchanges ? syslog ? dmesg ? |
| 01:19.56 | doughecka | have no idea :) |
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| 01:34.09 | zaurus_lover | ok folks I'm outta here for niw |
| 01:34.09 | zaurus_lover | now |
| 01:40.11 | Solar[X] | Help! My Zaurus is stuck on Super Mario! |
| 01:40.59 | cleverdra | solar - seriously? |
| 01:41.54 | Solar[X] | Heh I thought it would be a funny idea to make a screenshot of it using the applet, so I timed it at 1 minute - and it got stuck running right. |
| 01:44.44 | Solar[X] | It didn't make a screenshot :( |
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| 02:32.23 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
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| 02:34.12 | ljp_laptop | g'night you lazy sod |
| 02:34.25 | ljp_laptop | :) |
| 02:35.31 | warmi | are things moving along for you with the visa and stuff ? |
| 02:36.05 | ljp_laptop | I am in a holding pattern. |
| 02:36.24 | ljp_laptop | I am all set to leave, except for that work visa |
| 02:36.25 | warmi | ah heh |
| 02:36.44 | warmi | I didn't know Australia was just as anal about this stuff as is US |
| 02:37.40 | ljp_laptop | well, its only been 3 weeks |
| 02:38.10 | ljp_laptop | they just dont want people moving there just to get on the welfare system |
| 02:39.44 | TheMasterMind1 | they have a good welfare system then/ |
| 02:39.59 | warmi | well, I doubt they have many USias moving there to get on their welfare rolls :-) |
| 02:40.21 | warmi | I bet it is mostly directed towards poor Asian countries |
| 02:40.56 | warmi | but you are right .. 3 weeks is nothing |
| 02:41.22 | warmi | I thought it was longer ... seemed like it was |
| 02:41.30 | warmi | and I am sure it seems that way to you as well |
| 02:41.31 | warmi | heh |
| 02:41.44 | mewyn | ljp: where are you going to work |
| 02:41.45 | mewyn | ? |
| 02:42.17 | ljp_laptop | brisbane, australia. for trolltech |
| 02:42.25 | mewyn | cool |
| 02:42.59 | mewyn | wacha gonna be working on? or, lemme guess, you are under NDA too |
| 02:43.24 | warmi | yeah, coding qt in a place like Australia seems a pretty nice deal .. no doubt about it |
| 02:43.46 | mewyn | too bad you have to go during their winter |
| 02:43.55 | warmi | he most likely will be working on what most of Trolls are working .. qt or qtopia :-) |
| 02:44.04 | warmi | or somethign along these lines |
| 02:44.18 | ljp_laptop | my title will be "Qtopia Community Liason" |
| 02:44.18 | mewyn | i'm wondering on any applications of the software |
| 02:44.30 | mewyn | god help us all ;0 |
| 02:44.32 | mewyn | ;) |
| 02:44.45 | ljp_laptop | you can call me Bond, James Bond. |
| 02:46.51 | mewyn | or not |
| 02:47.41 | warmi | now every time you are stuck with with some shit in Qt .. there will be someone around to unload your frustration |
| 02:47.42 | warmi | heh |
| 02:49.25 | ljp_laptop | hmmmm |
| 02:49.45 | ljp_laptop | yes, that will be part of my job... *sigh* |
| 02:50.08 | ljp_laptop | although I will probably give wrong answers on purpose |
| 02:50.21 | ljp_laptop | "Give it up. Use MFC" |
| 02:50.31 | Solar[X] | BOFH! |
| 02:51.08 | warmi | haha |
| 02:51.44 | ljp_laptop | I am glad they finally took down my job description |
| 02:51.56 | ljp_laptop | from the web site |
| 02:52.25 | Solar[X] | Ah well, they could always _hope_ for something better ;) |
| 02:53.51 | ljp_laptop | hmmm |
| 02:54.21 | ljp_laptop | obviously, I was the best for that job ;) |
| 02:54.24 | warmi | well, they say financially trolls are doing pretty well so I guess at least that won't be a worry for ljp |
| 02:54.36 | warmi | it is not dot com or anything like that |
| 02:54.37 | ljp_laptop | thats what I hear also |
| 02:54.56 | ljp_laptop | and 'pre IPO' |
| 02:55.04 | warmi | so they are going IPO ? |
| 02:55.21 | warmi | altought these days you cannot expect this kind of IPO madness .... |
| 02:55.25 | ljp_laptop | dunno, there's one line on the careers page about it |
| 02:55.37 | warmi | they will be lucky if their shares will keep their value |
| 02:56.09 | warmi | still, good job you like with decent salary is frankly enough :-) |
| 02:57.00 | ljp_laptop | in a place that will seem like a vacation, also |
| 02:57.17 | ljp_laptop | I want a palm tree in my yard |
| 02:57.48 | ljp_laptop | and coconut rum in the cabinet |
| 02:58.07 | mewyn | vanilla rum rocks in coke |
| 02:58.07 | warmi | hehe |
| 02:58.34 | warmi | and in Australia just about ever town is on the shore anyway .. |
| 02:59.17 | mewyn | so you are never too far from the beach |
| 02:59.22 | ljp_laptop | true |
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| 02:59.31 | mewyn | hey tim |
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| 02:59.51 | ljp_laptop | I just want to get there, and start working |
| 03:00.16 | mewyn | i just want to start working a real job |
| 03:00.41 | mewyn | warmi: now one of my friends at CDW said they /may/ need me back. |
| 03:01.03 | warmi | things are picking up for them ? |
| 03:01.19 | warmi | recently I discovered that CDW has some great deals on hardware |
| 03:01.29 | warmi | I got a Toshiba PDA for $160 |
| 03:01.42 | warmi | this thing goes for around $240 at BestBuy and similar places |
| 03:01.52 | mewyn | things never were very bad, but they may need someone for linux support. they are trying to caputre the small and medium business market |
| 03:02.02 | warmi | with linux ? |
| 03:02.09 | warmi | I thought they only sold hardware |
| 03:02.31 | mewyn | they sell software, but don't support it all that much |
| 03:03.01 | ljp_laptop | I always liked cdw. |
| 03:03.06 | mewyn | but i would be doing the exculsive linux support. basically i'd be writing the rules, so to speak, if it was to happen |
| 03:03.19 | ljp_laptop | I got a free cdw pen! woot! |
| 03:03.44 | ljp_laptop | i are leet |
| 03:04.04 | mewyn | if you buy stuff near xmas you can get a big ol tin of maurice lanelle cookies |
| 03:04.10 | warmi | well, mewyn doesn't sound like a bad deal |
| 03:04.28 | warmi | I actually got this PDA so cheap cause tribune has a aditional discount |
| 03:04.33 | warmi | normally it was being sold for $199 |
| 03:04.37 | mewyn | the cookies or the job? hehe :) |
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| 03:05.18 | warmi | the job |
| 03:05.32 | ljp_laptop | it always seemed like cdw sales people I dealt with were at least somewhat knowledgeable about what they were selling |
| 03:05.34 | warmi | working with Linux , doesn't sound too bad for a guy like you who doesn't really like Windows |
| 03:06.47 | warmi | I got to change my sounds card .. |
| 03:06.56 | warmi | this onboard stuff is just plain crappy |
| 03:07.05 | mewyn | warmi: yah. |
| 03:07.22 | warmi | I spend $300 on a gfx card .. |
| 03:07.37 | warmi | might as well get myself a nice sound card |
| 03:07.43 | mewyn | ljp: you'd be lucky to find someone who has anything more than a superficial knowledge. they will usually 'get back to you on that' and consult the internal tech support |
| 03:07.51 | mewyn | warmi: get a audigy |
| 03:08.00 | warmi | how much for this thing ? |
| 03:08.08 | warmi | I don't want to spend more than say 60-70 |
| 03:08.30 | mewyn | i think you can get a first gen audigy for about that |
| 03:08.35 | mewyn | check pricewatch |
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| 03:09.55 | warmi | yeah |
| 03:10.28 | warmi | I am going to watch the recruit |
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| 03:50.09 | cleverdra | do newer ROMs or OZ (or any ROM) not have the misfeature of spontaneous connection loss? |
| 03:51.49 | TheMasterMind1 | eh |
| 03:51.55 | TheMasterMind1 | the current ones don't have that |
| 03:51.58 | TheMasterMind1 | what are you talking about |
| 03:53.08 | cleverdra | My Zaurus in its cradle, connected to the computer, will break the connection for no apparent reason. The only way I can get it to re-connect is to re-insert the Zaurus into the cradle. You haven't noticed this? Do you keep your Zaurus in the cradle for any length of time? |
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| 04:08.15 | lnxguy-Zaurus | sup? |
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| 04:13.29 | cleverdra | lnx - not much -- we're all playing this really wonderful game, called 'Be quiet for a few minutes whenever anyone comes in and tries to start a conversation'. What do you think of it? |
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| 04:54.04 | aTypical | Hello. Is anyone awake? |
| 04:54.43 | cleverdra | typical - yes. |
| 04:55.03 | aTypical | cleverdra: Hello. How are you? |
| 04:56.19 | cleverdra | Good. How are you, typical? |
| 04:56.37 | aTypical | I'm fine, thanks. |
| 04:57.00 | cleverdra | Glad to hear it. Curiously, do you have a question? |
| 04:58.15 | aTypical | cleverdra: Nope. Just stopped by to say hello. I recently bought a 5500 and I like to keep up with the latest news. |
| 04:58.33 | cleverdra | A, good. I just got my SL 5500 the other day. |
| 04:59.11 | cleverdra | ah, even. Your first Zaurus? |
| 04:59.20 | aTypical | Are you running the Sharp ROM or OpenZaurus? |
| 04:59.32 | cleverdra | I haven't got my CF card, yet, so I'm running the Sharp ROM. |
| 04:59.46 | aTypical | Yup. My first Z. Before this it was the Handspring Visor. |
| 05:00.04 | cleverdra | My last was a Palm515. |
| 05:01.11 | `Leaves | I'm running the new Sharp ROM 3.1, but not very impressed. |
| 05:01.14 | `Leaves | I was running oZ |
| 05:01.38 | `Leaves | and before that... the 2.8 sharp rom |
| 05:01.47 | `Leaves | which in my opinion, looked better |
| 05:02.06 | cleverdra | Secondhand, Sharp seems too happy about removing features from new ROMs. |
| 05:02.31 | aTypical | `Leaves: I'm currently running 3.1. I like it better than 2.8. However, I think the desktop sucks. |
| 05:02.51 | `Leaves | aTypical: yah, that's true |
| 05:03.02 | cleverdra | For instance, the 5000D that I also got the other day had a terminal and a file browser built-in. I had to add these to the 5500. The new Sharp ROM doesn't have an ftpd -- apparently Sharp expects people to use CF or the Z's ftp client for file transfer. |
| 05:03.16 | `Leaves | aTypical: I was having problems with the file transfer... it would work for a bit.. then it would stop working until I removed the zaurus from the cradle for 30 seconds |
| 05:03.47 | `Leaves | I'll probably end up going back to OZ I guess |
| 05:03.49 | cleverdra | Leaves - I'm having similar problems -- the USB connection will spontaneously fail, and the only way to get it back is to re-insert the Z into its cradle. |
| 05:04.07 | `Leaves | cleverdra: yah... didn't used to do that to me... now it does with the new ROM |
| 05:04.30 | `Leaves | I wish someone with make a suped up version of the OZ rom with more than just the default programs |
| 05:04.35 | cleverdra | I'll guess that I'll skip checking out the new ROM and go straight to OZ, then. |
| 05:04.44 | cleverdra | leaves - Zynergy? |
| 05:05.02 | `Leaves | zynergy? I'll google that |
| 05:05.05 | cleverdra | leaves - lots of room for multiple Zaurus distributions =) |
| 05:07.21 | `Leaves | cleverdra: oh yah.. for sure... but I wish I had a distro based on the OZ rom.. not the Sharp ROM at all |
| 05:07.42 | cleverdra | well, except that I can't seem to find GB unicode fonts. |
| 05:08.23 | `Leaves | is there a script to create an ipkg of the hancom apps for the 3.1 ROM for installation into OZ? |
| 05:08.42 | cleverdra | leaves - yes, but I don't remember where it is. |
| 05:08.57 | `Leaves | cleverdra: hmmmm.... |
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| 05:56.49 | mark | hi all. is there anyone about who uses their Z with windows? |
| 06:14.46 | Aimio|afk | hancom apps are available for download seporately ne way |
| 06:14.53 | Aimio|afk | mark: i have done |
| 06:15.30 | mark | Aimio: is there any easy way of transfering files to the Z using the tools they give you? |
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| 06:16.39 | Aimio | qtopiaDesktop should work, or ftp to 4343 (try pinging the Zaurus after setting it's IP). But since I put rom3.1 on there I can't do anything other than ping |
| 06:17.24 | warmi_away | mark: samba is your best bet ... install samba on the zaurus and then simply map the drive on Windows |
| 06:18.05 | mark | warmi_away: hiya. not for me, i thought a tool to import iCals from iCalShare (like national hoidays etc) would be cool |
| 06:18.43 | mark | warmi_away: but if its a pain to transfer files for most people i wasnt gonna bother |
| 06:19.09 | warmi_away | there is no API to do that as there is for PPC |
| 06:19.45 | mark | warmi_away: API way to add entries to the calendar do you mean? |
| 06:20.05 | warmi_away | API for synchronization or generally working with PDA from the desktop |
| 06:20.10 | mark | oh right |
| 06:20.17 | warmi_away | there is nothing like that available for Win32 coders |
| 06:20.36 | warmi_away | meaning you can't really create nice and integrated apps for Windows/ZAurus combination |
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| 06:22.51 | Aimio | standards needed at least (I prefer small progs working together) |
| 06:23.31 | cleverdra | aimio - ftp from the Z to your computer and download an ftpd to put on port 4343. Didn't you already figure that out a few hours ago? |
| 06:23.35 | warmi_away | Aimio: windows doesn't really have support for this kind of Unix style piping |
| 06:23.43 | warmi_away | on Windows binary APIs are way to go |
| 06:27.27 | NeoTron | too warm |
| 06:27.27 | NeoTron | grr |
| 06:28.02 | NeoTron | fortunately tomorrow and the next week won't be as damn ho |
| 06:28.03 | NeoTron | t |
| 06:28.22 | treke|laptop | that bad? |
| 06:28.38 | warmi_away | how about just turn on the airconditioning |
| 06:28.42 | warmi_away | that's what it is for |
| 06:30.12 | NeoTron | doh |
| 06:30.21 | NeoTron | do you REALLY think we have AC? |
| 06:30.44 | warmi_away | I don't know .. it is pretty common in US |
| 06:30.45 | warmi_away | heh |
| 06:30.47 | NeoTron | and wouldn't use it when it's fupping 85 degrees downstairs and at least 90 upstairs? (somewhat cooler now, probably about 85 upstairs) |
| 06:30.52 | NeoTron | not in WA it is not |
| 06:31.06 | NeoTron | simply put, no AC |
| 06:31.54 | cleverdra | Washington: land of rain forest, desert, mountains, and snow (I'd imagine). |
| 06:32.16 | NeoTron | uh, or not. |
| 06:32.34 | cleverdra | oh? What state is WA, then? |
| 06:32.51 | NeoTron | We certainly have no deserts or rain forests |
| 06:33.06 | NeoTron | mountains yes, snow yes (although not really where I live, perhaps a week or two every other year at most) |
| 06:33.09 | cleverdra | NeoTron - Washington state certainly has both. |
| 06:33.21 | cleverdra | Neo - only rain forest in North America. |
| 06:34.14 | warmi_away | Illinois ... land of corn .. and snow |
| 06:34.18 | NeoTron | so what exactly is the definition of rain forest then? |
| 06:35.42 | NeoTron | "a tropical forest with heavy annual rainfall" |
| 06:35.53 | NeoTron | somehow I strongly doubt we have a "tropical forest" |
| 06:36.02 | NeoTron | rainfall, sure, average |
| 06:36.23 | warmi_away | well, you got " a forest with heavy annual rainfall" - that's close enough :-) |
| 06:36.46 | NeoTron | fact is, it doesn't really rain that amazingly much in WA |
| 06:36.50 | cleverdra | http://www.usembassy.de/usa/washington.htm mentions a 'temperate rain forest', but I'm looking for a better description. |
| 06:37.12 | cleverdra | Neo - I imagine that it doesn't rain much on the deserts. |
| 06:37.37 | treke|laptop | that would be why they are deserts :p |
| 06:38.01 | cleverdra | Neo - you realize that a big rocky outcropping cuts your state into two very different meteorologic regions, yes? |
| 06:38.15 | NeoTron | I do yes |
| 06:38.26 | NeoTron | the east is a lot cooler in the winter and warmer in the summer |
| 06:38.39 | NeoTron | i.e not "coastal" weather |
| 06:39.30 | Aimio | cleverdra: I went to work b4 I could do it. I tried settin up a mini httpd and wget'ing but didn't want to work, now gonna try ftp |
| 06:39.36 | cleverdra | http://www.bygonebyways.com/bb-washington.htm -- but still no really interesting descriptions of the rain forest or desert. |
| 06:39.37 | NeoTron | rain forest == the amazon. :P "temperate rain forest" == forest anywhere where it happens to rain.. |
| 06:40.00 | warmi_away | hahaha |
| 06:40.16 | cleverdra | Neo - that's a bit like saying "desert == the sahara. not-quite-desert == that thing in west Texas" |
| 06:40.19 | Aimio | i have a Temorate rain forest in my garden, yay :) |
| 06:40.24 | NeoTron | in either case, I am sure you're correct. I have only lived here since '96 |
| 06:40.40 | NeoTron | texas is hell of a lot more of a desert than WA that's for sure |
| 06:41.43 | NeoTron | http://curriculum.calstatela.edu/courses/builders/lessons/less/biomes/rainforest/temp_rain/temprain.html |
| 06:43.04 | cleverdra | yay |
| 06:45.11 | Aimio | looks like I'm gonna have to learn to script ftp client on my Z, seeing as the keyboard can't be used whilst docked |
| 06:46.21 | NeoTron | use ssh |
| 06:46.48 | NeoTron | anyhow going to bed. ttfn |
| 06:47.58 | Aimio | (I don't have any server on Zaurus - straight sharp rom3.1) |
| 06:48.08 | cleverdra | echo "cd foo/bar" > getpkg; echo "binary" >> getpkg; echo "prompt off" >> getpkg; echo "mget *.ipkg" >> getpkg; echo "exit" >> getpkg; ftp xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx < getpkg |
| 06:48.15 | Aimio | not even a text editor |
| 06:48.18 | Aimio | thx |
| 06:48.21 | Aimio | :) |
| 06:48.45 | Aimio | where getpkg = "get file" ? |
| 06:49.05 | cleverdra | no, getpkg is just the file that you use to script ftp. A list of ftp commands. |
| 06:49.12 | Aimio | ah, nice |
| 06:49.34 | cleverdra | In unix, everythat that uses stdio is scriptable =) |
| 06:49.45 | cleverdra | everything, even. |
| 06:50.55 | cleverdra | You can also create a real script to do that, using HERE-DOCS. |
| 06:51.43 | cleverdra | Host=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
| 06:51.54 | Aimio | i got the jist now, to automate ftp, just ask ftp to connect and thereafter is ftp commands |
| 06:51.58 | cleverdra | ftp $Host <<END |
| 06:52.00 | cleverdra | cd $1 |
| 06:52.01 | cleverdra | binary |
| 06:52.03 | cleverdra | prompt off |
| 06:52.06 | cleverdra | mget *.ipkg |
| 06:52.07 | cleverdra | exit |
| 06:52.07 | cleverdra | END |
| 06:52.42 | cleverdra | where your script takes a directory as its sole argument. |
| 06:56.16 | Aimio | ok, `only anonymous login allowed` so script has froze. need to figure out key combo to ctrl+c. |
| 06:56.37 | cleverdra | oh, yeah, your first commands ought to be to login =) |
| 06:56.58 | Aimio | :p |
| 06:57.03 | Aimio | know key combo? |
| 06:57.15 | cleverdra | Sadly, no. I just kill the terminal. |
| 06:57.47 | Aimio | i'll look it up, so i just need to add login, and should then work? |
| 06:58.42 | cleverdra | well, say you put 'anonymous' 'foo@bar.net' as the first two lines, before 'cd $1' if you're using that. |
| 06:59.15 | cleverdra | The error comes from ftp taking 'cd something-or-other' and passing it to the server as a username. |
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| 07:07.29 | Aimio | just `anonymous` on 1st on it's own should do it? |
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| 07:17.06 | cleverdra | and an email address for the password, if the server wants it. |
| 07:18.48 | Aimio | it's not liking `anonymous` as a command, perhaps because is an anon only ftp, yet without it says "Only anonymous FTP supported.Login failed" |
| 07:23.52 | cleverdra | ftp $Host <<END |
| 07:23.55 | cleverdra | anonymous |
| 07:23.56 | cleverdra | foo@bar |
| 07:23.57 | cleverdra | cd $1 |
| 07:23.58 | cleverdra | ... |
| 07:25.25 | cleverdra | How are you invoking ftp? |
| 07:25.49 | Aimio | "ftp 127.0.0.1 < ../getpkg" atm whilst testing |
| 07:26.09 | Aimio | and that logs in as current user |
| 07:26.29 | cleverdra | I don't follow 'that logs in as current user', Aimio. |
| 07:27.20 | Aimio | I'm running as root so the "ftp 127.0.0.1 < ../getpkg" command tries giving me root@127.0.0.1 when I want anonymous@127.0.0.1 |
| 07:27.51 | Aimio | Can I comfirm that `anonymous` is a valid and correctly spelt ftp command? |
| 07:28.10 | treke|laptop | anonymous isnt an ftp command. it is a username |
| 07:28.28 | Aimio | treke: what is the correct syntax? |
| 07:28.31 | cleverdra | sigh. Here's an imaginary log. |
| 07:28.37 | cleverdra | ftp 127.0.0.1 |
| 07:28.41 | cleverdra | sorry, start over: |
| 07:28.45 | cleverdra | % ftp 127.0.0.1 |
| 07:28.58 | treke|laptop | Aimio: depends on the behavior of your client |
| 07:28.59 | cleverdra | WELCOME TO MY FTP. What is your user name? |
| 07:29.03 | cleverdra | anonymous |
| 07:29.10 | cleverdra | WELCOME ANONYMOUS. What is your email address? |
| 07:29.13 | cleverdra | foo@bar.net |
| 07:29.18 | cleverdra | WELCOME TO MY FTP. You are in / |
| 07:29.21 | cleverdra | cd foo/bar |
| 07:29.22 | cleverdra | ... |
| 07:29.23 | Aimio | treke: i'm forced to use straight ftp command |
| 07:29.36 | cleverdra | aimio - you are scripting ftp. It asks for input, you have the input supplied. |
| 07:29.53 | cleverdra | aimio - your first step ought to be to understand what input it will look for |
| 07:30.22 | cleverdra | A script for the following imaginary session, for instance, would be: |
| 07:30.32 | cleverdra | #!/usr/bin/env bash |
| 07:30.38 | cleverdra | ftp 127.0.0.1 <<END |
| 07:30.39 | cleverdra | anonymous |
| 07:30.41 | cleverdra | foo@bar.net |
| 07:30.42 | cleverdra | cd foo/bar |
| 07:30.43 | cleverdra | END |
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| 07:32.22 | Aimio | ok, ftp -n 127.0.0.1 fixes login, now to figure out why mget * doesn't actually get any files |
| 07:33.54 | Aimio | nb: I'm using an Anonymous only ftp server that doesn't prompt for username but will accept a username; hence confusion (it doesn't make sense?) |
| 07:34.30 | cleverdra | I don't understand, but OK. |
| 07:36.29 | Aimio | I've done it :) (used "ftp -n 127.0.0.1 < getpkg" where getpkg contains "prompt" <newline> "mget *" BLIMEY i'll use a normal ftpd nxt time :p |
| 07:37.03 | cleverdra | phew, OK =) |
| 07:37.10 | Aimio | :D |
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| 07:44.16 | NoRemorse | heya |
| 07:44.17 | Aimio | but it doesn't work on the zaurus! the command just hangs! |
| 07:44.39 | cleverdra | aimio - where does it hang? |
| 07:44.58 | NoRemorse | I wanna install Linux on my laptop, what the best distribution as far as being similar to the Zaurus goes please? (ie I like ipkg etc) |
| 07:45.29 | Aimio | ah! I need to get ftpd binding to usb0 of course |
| 07:46.36 | cleverdra | remorse - I like debian, and it has apt-get. I don't know what to make of your desire that the laptop linux be similar to Zaurus's system, though. Was Zaurus your first encounter with Linux? |
| 07:46.54 | NoRemorse | shit no |
| 07:47.11 | NoRemorse | but I am a slackware stalwart, and I hate redhat, apart from that I am open to other suggestions |
| 07:47.18 | NoRemorse | Debian sounds good. |
| 07:47.31 | cleverdra | Why do you hate redhat? |
| 07:47.48 | NoRemorse | I have had too many bad experiences with redhat boxes being hacked on my network. |
| 07:48.11 | cleverdra | Well, there's already OpenBSD for decent out-of-the-box security. |
| 07:48.17 | NoRemorse | actually, I'll stick with what I know and put slcak on it, and just install ipkg |
| 07:48.45 | NoRemorse | good idea? |
| 07:49.11 | cleverdra | I'm not fond of binary packages, outside of embedded systems like the Zaurus. |
| 07:49.43 | cleverdra | My favorite system is still BSD /usr/ports =) |
| 07:49.45 | NoRemorse | cool, slack 9 is out |
| 07:49.51 | NoRemorse | catcha |
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| 07:52.21 | zaurus_lover | anyone here ? |
| 07:52.35 | zaurus_lover | hi there |
| 07:52.42 | cleverdra | Yes. |
| 07:52.49 | zaurus_lover | hi there ... anyone got the MA701 card working with the C750 ? need tips if you have ... |
| 07:53.07 | cleverdra | I only have a SL-5500, here. |
| 07:53.07 | zaurus_lover | hi cleverdra how are you doing ? |
| 07:53.15 | zaurus_lover | oh ok ... |
| 07:57.32 | Aimio | holy sh*t, now Z has crashed when trying to turn it off ... console init level :p |
| 08:00.12 | Aimio | hmm, now hanging on `150 About to send file list` this is a nightmare :D |
| 08:01.30 | Aimio | conclusion: usbdnet is a nightmare |
| 08:02.18 | cleverdra | Something is definitely wrong with something that, by rights, should work so simply. |
| 08:03.39 | Aimio | interesting, as soon as I run ftp command on Z side, can no longer ping Z |
| 08:07.12 | Aimio | as soon as the 1st byte comes across from the Zaurus i lose all comms, including trying to ping the Zaurus |
| 08:07.42 | cleverdra | even when you close down the ftp? |
| 08:10.35 | Aimio | can't close down the ftp |
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| 08:11.03 | zauruslover | aimio did you give init 0 ? |
| 08:11.08 | Aimio | i'll `sleep 5s && killall ftp` |
| 08:11.33 | Aimio | :D it's still turned on, 3.1 shananagans |
| 08:14.35 | Aimio | Even even ftp command is killed it won't carry on pinging. have to reinit the usb connection. Those crazy cats @ Sharp |
| 08:16.11 | cleverdra | Ah hah! |
| 08:16.28 | Aimio | ? |
| 08:16.34 | Aimio | have a theory? |
| 08:16.50 | cleverdra | aimio - no, but at least I have an idea as to why my usb connection spontaneously fails. |
| 08:17.03 | Aimio | which rom r u using? |
| 08:17.41 | cleverdra | The one that came with my SL5500. I still don't have a CF. |
| 08:18.06 | Aimio | I'm waiting for my CF to arrive so I can rescue my Z |
| 08:18.44 | Aimio | my usb connection has just spontaneuosly failed too (i did nothing) |
| 08:19.10 | Aimio | it could be a problem with usbdnet desktop-side |
| 08:19.21 | cleverdra | aimio - erm, how did you get 3.1 on the Zaurus without a CF? |
| 08:19.31 | Aimio | Winbloze :) |
| 08:20.12 | cleverdra | That doesn't make any sense to me, Aimio. |
| 08:20.21 | Aimio | shame I can't hack the windoze installer to put OZ on there |
| 08:20.53 | Aimio | my dad uses M$ Windows |
| 08:21.21 | cleverdra | Aimio, I have *no* clue what that has to do with getting 3.1 on the Zaurus without a CF, nor what 'windows installer' you're referring to. |
| 08:26.28 | cleverdra | OK. Are you saying that there is a windows program which flashes the Zaurus through the USB connection, somehow? |
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| 08:30.09 | zaurus_lover | hi there |
| 08:30.17 | zaurus_lover | aimio did you get your Z up ? |
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| 08:47.23 | Aimio | I've given up :) |
| 08:47.35 | Aimio | gonna wait for CF to arrive |
| 08:52.38 | zaurus_lover | anyone tried Debian on their C750 / |
| 08:53.39 | zaurus_lover | Aimio : Get one dude :) if your pocket allows, I'd say go for the 760 ... if not 750 is equally great ! |
| 08:53.58 | Aimio | how much r they? |
| 08:54.09 | Aimio | £ |
| 08:54.23 | cleverdra | They certainly look tasty -- more amenable to on-system programming. |
| 08:54.45 | zaurus_lover | Depends on where you buy them from ... Conics.net : $629 (C750) $729 (C760) |
| 08:54.49 | zaurus_lover | US$ |
| 08:55.07 | Aimio | the keyboard must be good, better than the best wired keyboard avail. for 5500, that would clinch 4 me |
| 08:55.13 | zaurus_lover | I'd recommend conics.net ... Brett is the owner and he is a wonderful guy to work with |
| 08:55.29 | cleverdra | Aimio - well, have you looked at the man-machine fabric keyboards? |
| 08:55.48 | zaurus_lover | keyboard is a membrane keyboard ... with practice I am pretty sure I can type with two fingers :) its better than the slippery 5500 kbd |
| 08:56.03 | Aimio | sounds good, can work with Z without batteries? |
| 08:56.15 | zaurus_lover | pardon ? |
| 08:56.35 | zaurus_lover | plus you can add the 5600 battery giving you abt 8.5 hrs on the 750 |
| 08:56.48 | zaurus_lover | with an external cover (to be sold later in June) |
| 08:56.49 | Aimio | sounds good, which of those keyboards is biggest / best 4 typing and works with Zaurus without needing batteries? |
| 08:57.13 | zaurus_lover | i'm comfortable with the built-in keyboard |
| 08:57.20 | Aimio | (am talking about external 5500 keyboards now) |
| 08:57.29 | zaurus_lover | oh ok ... like pocket top |
| 08:57.39 | zaurus_lover | ir keyboards ? |
| 08:57.53 | cleverdra | pocket top is comfortable for me, but it requires a AAA, and I haven't tried to use it with my Z, yet. |
| 08:57.57 | Aimio | yea, ($629 is too much for me right now) |
| 08:58.19 | cleverdra | I'd like to get a fabric keyboard from man-machine.com -- those look nice. |
| 08:58.23 | zaurus_lover | guess you can save up and wait for the US release ... it will probably drop |
| 08:58.45 | Aimio | that AAA lasts for TV-remote length times? I prefer a wired keyboard if possible but not sure how fablic keyboards r 4 typing |
| 09:00.29 | Aimio | cleverdra: surely not 2 hot 4 typing? |
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| 09:04.24 | Aimio | i've blown up a few things in the past just by plugging them into the mains. I's be scared to plug my Z in abroad, wonder if there is something available to fix ... external battery charger i suppose, regulator in standard PSU i wonder |
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| 09:07.44 | zaurus_lover | hv u seen the external charger which works with 4 aa batteries ? |
| 09:08.30 | Aimio | i haven't, no |
| 09:09.03 | Aimio | hope SD->CF card convertot works :p |
| 09:09.49 | zaurus_lover | have a look at : http://www.serve-me.com/conics/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/batt-pack/ |
| 09:10.09 | zaurus_lover | send a mail to sales@mail.conics.net (Brett) and ask him if it works with the 5500 as well |
| 09:10.32 | zaurus_lover | I have it ... its a little thing that can fit in your pocket ... |
| 09:10.58 | zaurus_lover | and really handy ... imagine having a few rechargeable AAs ... you can run as long as you want |
| 09:11.00 | Aimio | my zaurus has gone wrong :/ -> http://members.shaw.ca/northvanmike/page6.html |
| 09:11.43 | zaurus_lover | :) wow whats all that ? |
| 09:11.58 | Aimio | yea, a good idea, but not sure of economics, might b better to get another rechargable battery |
| 09:13.08 | Aimio | that is the `imike` a guy made, took him 6 months. nice, but bad paint job and rumoured to achieve verticle takeoff from fans |
| 09:13.49 | zaurus_lover | hahahah :) |
| 09:13.51 | nofpu | that's a LCD on thef ront :) |
| 09:14.07 | Aimio | :D |
| 09:14.44 | Aimio | i thought of doing it, but of course didn't 'cos crazy and hard, but he's got everything in there, love the front stuff 2 |
| 09:15.35 | nofpu | v cool |
| 09:16.32 | Aimio | a silent version i would consider :) |
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| 09:43.40 | cleverdra | hm, my Z seems to have crashed and then frozen on the bootup screen (the that that shows "Zaurus" in the center, with "Please wait" below). How do I reset it? |
| 09:47.52 | mutexer | flip the switch on the back to replace battery.. then flip it right back to normal operation |
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| 09:49.04 | cleverdra | yikes, it didn't like that. Thanks. |
| 09:49.53 | wijnand | heh... thats a nice thing to read when you just walk in :P |
| 09:51.13 | mutexer | its amazing in itself that you "walked" in :P |
| 09:51.17 | cleverdra | I was told how to hard-reset my SL-5500, and Linux called fsck, which complained. |
| 09:51.30 | mutexer | that was a soft reset |
| 09:51.36 | mutexer | I didnt think you wanted a hard reset |
| 09:51.59 | mutexer | hard reset will whipe out your memory setting it back to factory settings of the rom (assuming your using sharp rom) |
| 09:52.16 | cleverdra | Oh, OK. The soft reset did it. |
| 09:53.14 | mutexer | if your running OZ there might be sometihng else you can do.. Ive never used it so I dont know |
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| 12:26.09 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:18.17 | jbwiv | good morning everyone... |
| 14:20.16 | jbwiv | anyone know of a mp3 player for the Z that will support streaming mp3 stations? I'm aware of tkcRadio, but looking for something to try without buying. xmms-embedded is out there as well, but doesn't seem to work with the new sharp rom. I appreciate any input you can provide... |
| 14:20.31 | yeiazel | jbwiv: mplayer |
| 14:26.20 | chrionix | what's the bot command to see when someone was last on? |
| 14:28.44 | jbwiv | yeiazel: hmmm...cool. Hadn't thought of that . thanks! |
| 14:28.48 | yeiazel | :) |
| 14:30.53 | ljp_laptop | ibot seen chrionix |
| 14:30.53 | | chrionix is currently on #zaurus #openzaurus. Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 4m 33s |
| 14:35.01 | jbwiv | guys...one more rather silly question. I just got a wireless card, so I'm trying to use feeds (never really had the motivation before). I've added a few via the Add/Remove software app on sharp rom 3.10, but only one so far has provided a list of files. I've checked the url I'm entering and it's right on, but still no luck. even the sharp.com feed and killefiz.de feed won't work. Anyone know how I might debug what's going on? |
| 14:39.04 | chrionix | ibot seen drboom |
| 14:39.04 | | chrionix: i haven't seen 'drboom' |
| 14:39.16 | chrionix | doh, I thought he hung out in here |
| 14:39.40 | chrionix | It doesn't matter, I went back to Hancom Word 1.4.4 and it works |
| 14:40.16 | chrionix | 1.5 was linking to quickexec, which doesn't seem to exist. |
| 14:40.30 | ljp_laptop | hmmm, they must have changed the symbols a bit |
| 14:40.44 | ljp_laptop | ahhhh.. hmm |
| 14:41.34 | chrionix | well, it's time for sleep |
| 14:41.37 | chrionix | G'night all. |
| 14:43.25 | ljp_laptop | l8r |
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| 15:04.31 | nerdboy_ | yo howdy |
| 15:33.33 | zauruslover | good day one and all |
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| 15:38.04 | zauruslover | anyone know what tweaks r needed to get MA701 working on my C750 ? |
| 15:48.42 | zauruslover | is there anyone here ? |
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| 16:19.15 | aTypical | zauruslover: No, but if you send it to me I'll work on it. |
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| 18:43.57 | mrwoody | is there a sharp rom 3.10 for the zaurus sl5000? |
| 18:44.29 | mrwoody | does anyone here use the cacko rom? |
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| 18:46.12 | cleverdra | The cacko rom? |
| 18:47.13 | mrwoody | cleverdra: yes ... as fas as i know the only that use 3.10 for sl5000 |
| 18:58.43 | fishy | http://www.woodstream.gr.jp/images/zaurus/mi-e21.jpg <--- WTF is that zaurus running? |
| 18:59.07 | treke|laptop | fishy: the zaurus os |
| 19:00.48 | cleverdra | yeah, that's normal. |
| 19:01.01 | chouimat | fishy: a very weird version of palmos 45.9 |
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| 19:01.18 | cleverdra | yeah, that's not so normal -- I thought you were talking about the japanization, at first. |
| 19:01.51 | treke|laptop | thats completly normal |
| 19:01.59 | fishy | no its not |
| 19:02.07 | fishy | its not opie |
| 19:02.13 | treke|laptop | of course it isnt opi |
| 19:02.16 | treke|laptop | it isnt linux |
| 19:02.28 | sharpie | the buttons have different icons on it also. |
| 19:02.44 | cleverdra | treke - there's an OS named 'zaurus' for the zaurus, which is similar to PalmOS? |
| 19:02.57 | treke|laptop | cleverdra: DOnt know if its similar to the palmos |
| 19:03.22 | sharpie | ah |
| 19:09.42 | Twiun | it's the older Zaurus, purely for the Japanese market and based on a dragonball chipset iirc |
| 19:10.08 | Twiun | it's older than the SL-5000 |
| 19:14.41 | cleverdra | sigh, my Z5500 has spontaneously decided to not accept ftp connection on port 4343. |
| 19:15.12 | Twiun | isn't it supposed to be port 4242? |
| 19:15.17 | cleverdra | It has *connectivity*, damnit, but the ftp server has gone away! Not even a reboot fixed it, and I've little clue as to what the Z uses for an ftp server. |
| 19:15.39 | Twiun | Qtopia provides the ftp server |
| 19:15.42 | cleverdra | someone said 4343 the other day, but I thought it was 4242. I'll check the latter. |
| 19:15.51 | treke|laptop | the ftp server is on 4242 |
| 19:15.59 | Twiun | and it's not a full implementation of an ftpd anyway |
| 19:16.04 | treke|laptop | the qcop server is 4343 |
| 19:16.22 | cleverdra | 4242, "421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection" |
| 19:16.25 | Twiun | cleverdra: install openssh for scp/winscp2 bliss |
| 19:16.30 | cleverdra | interesting. |
| 19:16.39 | cleverdra | Yes, I already have scp. I'll use that. |
| 19:16.59 | Twiun | cleverdra: that's a known issue with the qtopia ftp - you need your pc and Z to have specific IP addresses |
| 19:17.14 | Twiun | cleverdra: 192.168.129.1 for the PC and 192.168.129.200 for the Z |
| 19:17.26 | Twiun | cleverdra: it's Sharp's security feature |
| 19:17.26 | cleverdra | 201 for the Z has worked for me. |
| 19:17.38 | Twiun | at the very least, the PC must be .1 |
| 19:18.19 | cleverdra | The PC is .1 |
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| 19:19.36 | cleverdra | If my Z could maintain a constant connection with my computer when in the cradle, I'd be happy to deal on my own with security -- well, seemingly OZ doesn't have that problem. |
| 19:25.32 | fishy | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.47 | fishy | So I wont be able to format my SD card ext2? |
| 19:26.34 | mrwoody | fishy: i use my sd card as an ext2 |
| 19:26.36 | cleverdra | fishy - depends on the card. knightfire.com has a list, I think. |
| 19:27.20 | fishy | PAGE NOT FOUND |
| 19:27.21 | mrwoody | fishy: and the cacko/crowl rom has its own /home in the sd card formatted as ext2 |
| 19:27.35 | fishy | im gonna be running OZ :) |
| 19:28.12 | fishy | ohh |
| 19:28.33 | fishy | cleverdra: I got the list :) |
| 19:28.41 | fishy | its http://zaurus.knightfire.com/ |
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| 19:33.42 | fishy | mrwoody: what did you do to make it ext2? |
| 19:34.27 | mrwoody | fishy: mkfs.ext2 /dev/mmcda1 |
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| 19:35.13 | fishy | does fdisk cause a problem if you wipe the card/ |
| 19:35.16 | fishy | ?* |
| 19:36.05 | George- | what do you mean? |
| 19:36.11 | mrwoody | fishy: why? |
| 19:41.46 | mrwoody | does anyone here use the crowl image? |
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| 20:42.10 | cleverdra | sigh. How do I install a QPF for Qtopia to use? |
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| 20:58.10 | cleverdra | and apparently crash, and try to start up again. |
| 20:58.40 | TMM1 | heh |
| 20:58.41 | TMM1 | use oz |
| 20:59.52 | Twiun | cleverdra: Qtopia can take a long time to boot if your CF/SD cards have lots of files |
| 21:02.00 | cleverdra | I have neither. |
| 21:02.16 | cleverdra | This is just after I installed some language files from an iPAQ feed. Hm. |
| 21:02.43 | cleverdra | Looks like that was a bad idea. |
| 21:02.57 | cleverdra | How do you do a hard reset on the SL 5500? |
| 21:05.46 | TMM1 | you don't have an ipaq |
| 21:05.48 | TMM1 | why would you do that |
| 21:14.18 | cleverdra | Because they appeared to be general Qtopia files. I was frustrated, maybe. |
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| 21:40.20 | cleverdra | arg, why are there chinese fonts for opie but not for qtopia? |
| 21:49.07 | ljp_laptop | because |
| 21:49.32 | ljp_laptop | they have not yet been incorporated into qtopia |
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| 22:04.53 | cleverdra | ljp - seriously? There is no way to output simplified chinese in qtopia? |
| 22:12.14 | cleverdra | Well, in general, how do I use a font? |
| 22:13.34 | cleverdra | ah, I've made some progress. |
| 22:14.57 | cleverdra | Now, how do I set the default font in Qtopia? |
| 22:17.04 | TMM1 | you dont |
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| 23:02.52 | cleverdra | Well, there are some problems with my new font being too large for the design of some applications, but I definitely have a Chinese-capable font as the default, now. Yay. |
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| 23:14.05 | treke|laptop | :566 |
| 23:14.55 | ljp_laptop | :876 |
| 23:16.32 | chouimat|tv | ? |
| 23:17.14 | ljp_laptop | ?? |
| 23:17.53 | chouimat|tv | <treke|laptop> :566 |
| 23:17.53 | chouimat|tv | [19:14:21] <ljp_laptop> :876 |
| 23:18.14 | chouimat|tv | ok back to futurama |
| 23:18.26 | ljp_laptop | secret code |
| 23:18.31 | ljp_laptop | :) |
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| 23:31.28 | cleverdra | oh dear, the terminal doesn't like using the larger taipei font at all. |
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| 23:44.49 | polto | hello all |
| 23:45.20 | polto | speaking you from my Z :) |
| 23:46.11 | polto | somebody know a good wireless discovery tool? |
| 23:46.21 | Wintre | kismet |
| 23:47.29 | polto | and i have seen a gui witch detect all ap + clients connected on |
| 23:48.20 | ljp_laptop | theres weillenriter or however you spell it |
| 23:49.39 | polto | ok thx i ll see |
| 23:50.47 | Solar[X] | Wellenreiter! |
| 23:50.50 | Solar[X] | Funny name. |
| 23:53.49 | ljp_laptop | ok, this week is work visa week. I can feel it! |
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| 23:59.25 | chouimat|tv | ljp_laptop: you said that last year :) |
