| 00:02.23 | ivan | the dell axim users report the faint lines on the screen, just like with the zaurus |
| 00:02.31 | ivan | some screens more significant than others |
| 00:02.40 | ivan | on the zaurus it's vertical, on the axim it's horizontal |
| 00:02.53 | tech2k | my boss and another co-worker just bought those |
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| 00:03.10 | ivan | is the axim nice? |
| 00:03.10 | kergoth | :P |
| 00:03.34 | tech2k | im glad i want with the sl-5500...but yes the screens and speed are awesome on the dells |
| 00:03.44 | tech2k | went with* |
| 00:04.21 | dancl | Does opie-mail2 have any parse issues, is there a fix, and who do I tell if I thing Ive found a bug? |
| 00:04.29 | ivan | i'm not going with any PDA who's maker takes about 6 months to acknowledge a problem with their hardware |
| 00:04.29 | kergoth | ibot: opie bugs |
| 00:04.30 | | i guess opie bugs is http://opie.info/mantis/ |
| 00:04.55 | tech2k | i found my boss a few appz like tiger woods but i am running "pocket workstation" full debian on an sd card and have the entire debian tree ;) |
| 00:07.28 | kergoth`bbl | goin home |
| 00:08.04 | ivan | pocketkobo is the best game for PPC |
| 00:08.14 | ivan | err it was called something else though |
| 00:08.22 | ivan | hmm no |
| 00:10.35 | tech2k | i have a few games like checkers,chess but i love haveing xcircuit,qcad,xlog on icewm in my shirt pocket |
| 00:11.05 | tech2k | http://www.w-m-p.com/pocketworkstation/ |
| 00:11.33 | ivan | how long did it take you to get it working? |
| 00:11.55 | tech2k | it was easy...i have had my zaurus for less than 2 weeks |
| 00:12.33 | tech2k | i ran OZ a couple days and now dual boot debian on the sd and qtopia (enhanced) on the flash rom |
| 00:13.11 | tech2k | i have some install info on my homepage here http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-tech2k |
| 00:13.55 | tech2k | ill quit preaching about it now...i just like to mention it because a lot of people havent heard of it and it rox |
| 00:14.40 | jshare | indeed, it sounds very cool |
| 00:14.57 | jshare | i think i'll play with that after the next OZ release, since I'll be reflashing then anyway |
| 00:15.48 | tech2k | it blew me away...icewm and sylpheed are my kind of xapps anyway...now my pda and desktop are setup about the same |
| 00:16.38 | tech2k | i dont have wireless yet though so i am haveing to browse the debian tree manualy and get the debs with depends and install from a cf card with dpkg -i |
| 00:16.53 | jshare | oh yeah, that's the other thing I'd need to do |
| 00:17.06 | tech2k | i cant wait to get a wap setup and say "apt-get install" |
| 00:17.27 | ivan | eh, working to setup a "personal data assistant" |
| 00:18.06 | tech2k | i set up a linksys cable/dsl router wap for the boss at work and he dell can hit it from about 1600 feet |
| 00:18.48 | ivan | how much did that router cost? |
| 00:19.17 | tech2k | he got it local at bestbuy for $74.00 (opened box) regular price $99.00 |
| 00:19.34 | ivan | i don't believe you can get a fourth of a mile |
| 00:19.37 | ivan | it's a really long distance |
| 00:20.06 | tech2k | it was trickey to share a dialup with it on his single desktop pc at work..it has 2 antennas about 8" long each |
| 00:21.05 | tech2k | for dialup i had to go in the router and disable dhcp and let ics give the #'s from the xp box |
| 00:21.07 | ivan | Wireless operating range (indoors): 100 feet at 11 Mbps, 165 feet at 5.5 Mbps, 230 feet at 2 Mbps, 300 feet at 1 Mbps |
| 00:21.07 | ivan | Wireless operating range (outdoors): 500 feet at 11 Mbps, 885 feet at 5.5 Mbps, 1,300 feet at 2 Mbps, 1,500 feet at 1 Mbps |
| 00:21.18 | ivan | wow, that could really help out my friends |
| 00:21.44 | ivan | tech2k: what was the card on the axim that got 1600 feet? |
| 00:22.31 | tech2k | well...it says 1600 feet max range without a booster...we havent measured it but he has got a good ways from our shop |
| 00:22.38 | ivan | for some reason i thought that wireless routers were around 30 feet max |
| 00:22.39 | tech2k | its a dell cf nick |
| 00:22.41 | tech2k | nic |
| 00:23.03 | tech2k | he has been a few hundered feet away for sure |
| 00:24.25 | tech2k | http://www.linksys.com/Products/product.asp?prid=157&grid=22 |
| 00:24.40 | tech2k | that looks lie about the same model |
| 00:25.03 | jshare | amazon has linksys boxes for ~$80 |
| 00:25.37 | tech2k | im getting one soon...just need to reasearch and decide on a cf nic |
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| 02:12.49 | daniel_Z | hi tested animation in SL-5600 noted the flipping stalled while moving another sprite |
| 02:13.07 | treke|ho1e | turn of the bold |
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| 02:13.31 | chouimat|walk | kergoth: hmmmm |
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| 02:15.25 | daniel_Z | hi animation stall while moving another sprite on canvas, need to know why |
| 02:15.50 | treke|laptop | t\more detail |
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| 02:16.41 | daniel_Z | same program ran in SL-5500, no problem only in SL-5600 |
| 02:18.48 | treke|laptop | 5600 is a bit slower than the 5500 sometimes |
| 02:28.27 | daniel_Z | the animations rate of flipping are running fine but until another action stalls the flipping, so don't think its the speed that affects it. could it be there is something to set to match the chip in SL-5600. |
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| 02:30.25 | kergoth | what? |
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| 02:36.52 | daniel_Z | to treke U need more info and this is it :- the animation runs fine thus I don't think its the speed. It ran same as test in the qtopia emulator. could it be there is some setting for the sl5600 to be set. |
| 02:37.19 | kergoth | setting? |
| 02:38.01 | treke|laptop | your program does something the 5600 doesnt like |
| 02:38.15 | treke|laptop | your going to need figure out what it is and not do it |
| 02:41.40 | daniel_Z | but it ran well with sl5500 ? |
| 02:41.50 | treke|laptop | the 5600 isnt the 5500 |
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| 02:54.46 | daniel_Z | i know that but its running qtopia and am using that sdk. do we have another choice. |
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| 03:56.56 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 04:50.20 | omoore | anyone know how to bring networking up vi command line on SL-5600? |
| 04:50.34 | omoore | i can down it using ifconfig eth0 down (as root) |
| 04:50.52 | omoore | but if i then try ifocnfig eth0 up, i get an error that there is no such device |
| 04:51.21 | omoore | i also tried to cardctl eject (which did take down networking as it ejects the cf card) then cardctl insert (which did 'reinsert' the card) |
| 04:51.37 | omoore | but this did not bring (wireless) networking back online |
| 04:55.33 | treke|laptop | w |
| 04:58.23 | lcandell | x/who |
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| 05:12.33 | omoore | anyone know how to bring networking up vi command line on SL-5600? |
| 05:12.40 | omoore | i can down it using ifconfig eth0 down (as root) |
| 05:12.47 | omoore | but if i then try ifocnfig eth0 up, i get an error that there is no such device |
| 05:13.01 | omoore | i also tried to cardctl eject (which did take down networking as it ejects the cf card) |
| 05:13.07 | omoore | then cardctl insert (which did 'reinsert' the card) |
| 05:13.14 | omoore | but this did not bring (wireless) networking back online |
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| 08:51.03 | cwaig | any kernel guru's kicking around? |
| 08:51.27 | cwaig | or should I wait for kergoth to get out of bed? |
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| 14:10.00 | warmi | hi |
| 14:15.46 | Twiun | hey warmi |
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| 14:17.57 | doughecka | yay |
| 14:18.01 | doughecka | my zaurus arrived |
| 14:18.42 | doughecka | now can someone tell me why it wont turn on? :) |
| 14:19.27 | Twiun | because they don't charge them for shipping? |
| 14:19.33 | doughecka | oh? |
| 14:19.43 | doughecka | hm |
| 14:19.52 | doughecka | the charge light wont go on when I plug it in |
| 14:20.13 | Twiun | reset switch in the right position? |
| 14:20.19 | doughecka | yup |
| 14:21.42 | Twiun | battery in and the right way round? |
| 14:22.03 | doughecka | yup |
| 14:22.15 | doughecka | ah |
| 14:22.20 | Twiun | ah? |
| 14:22.25 | doughecka | pulled it out and put it back in made it light up |
| 14:22.32 | Twiun | dodgy contact then |
| 14:22.42 | Twiun | try switching it on as it's charging |
| 14:22.46 | doughecka | hm, it still wont turn on yet |
| 14:22.58 | Twiun | hehe, ok, give it 5 mins |
| 14:22.59 | doughecka | huh |
| 14:23.07 | doughecka | :) |
| 14:24.31 | doughecka | yayay!! |
| 14:24.33 | doughecka | it boots |
| 14:24.52 | doughecka | oooooh, pretty :) |
| 14:25.37 | doughecka | ouch |
| 14:25.38 | doughecka | :) |
| 14:25.49 | doughecka | too bad I dont have a sylus yet |
| 14:26.04 | warmi | doughecka: you never seen Zaurus up close before ? |
| 14:26.12 | doughecka | not running |
| 14:26.13 | doughecka | :) |
| 14:26.53 | Twiun | oh dear: |
| 14:26.55 | Twiun | # fsck.vfat /dev/hda |
| 14:26.55 | Twiun | dosfsck 2.8, 28 Feb 2001, FAT32, LFN |
| 14:26.55 | Twiun | Bus error |
| 14:27.14 | doughecka | hm |
| 14:27.17 | doughecka | sounds bad |
| 14:27.26 | Twiun | yeah... and from fsck too |
| 14:29.15 | doughecka | hm, I need a driver... |
| 14:31.15 | Twiun | what for? |
| 14:31.24 | doughecka | fer windows |
| 14:31.28 | doughecka | so I can sync |
| 14:31.46 | Twiun | Ahhh |
| 14:32.59 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:33.19 | Twiun | hey chouimat |
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| 14:41.12 | Shagoon | ping kergoth`zzz |
| 14:48.55 | chouimat | http://www.dilbert.com/ |
| 14:53.34 | Twiun | chouimat: yeah, I'd seen it :) |
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| 15:10.22 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:10.37 | doughecka | how do I move files around on my Z? |
| 15:10.54 | doughecka | I want to put somthing in the root documents folder, but I dont see anyway of doing it. |
| 15:14.07 | doughecka | on the stock sharp ROM, without any terminal apps or anything |
| 15:15.26 | Wintre | If you exit Qtopia you'll get a chance for a shell |
| 15:15.35 | doughecka | oh? |
| 15:15.53 | Wintre | A countdown, an if you hit /, it prompts you for what to do |
| 15:16.04 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:16.43 | doughecka | cool |
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| 15:18.24 | doughecka | where is the documents folder held? |
| 15:19.22 | treke | ~/Documents |
| 15:19.48 | doughecka | hm |
| 15:20.14 | doughecka | home/documents? |
| 15:20.19 | doughecka | I dont see a /documents |
| 15:20.23 | treke | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:20.39 | treke | the Documents subdirectory of your home directory |
| 15:21.10 | doughecka | bleh, whats control C? |
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| 15:23.12 | doughecka | hm |
| 15:27.09 | doughecka | ah, now my keyboard is stuck in the special mode |
| 15:28.07 | Twiun | Fn+Tab or Fn+/ should release it |
| 15:28.20 | doughecka | ah, thanks |
| 15:28.27 | Twiun | You should have a small n or c next to the clock to tell you which is enabled atm |
| 15:28.27 | doughecka | crazy linux stuff :) |
| 15:28.37 | Twiun | nah, nothing to do with linux :) |
| 15:28.44 | doughecka | well, I am in the terminal mode thingy, so I cant tell |
| 15:28.53 | Twiun | everything to do with that tiddly keyboard :) |
| 15:28.53 | Twiun | Ahhh |
| 15:29.12 | Twiun | should use opie-konsole in fullscreen :) |
| 15:29.32 | doughecka | yea yea, well, I would if I was at my desk with my base station |
| 15:29.42 | Twiun | lol |
| 15:29.47 | doughecka | I got it on my drive, just that I dont have it on my Z |
| 15:29.48 | doughecka | :) |
| 15:29.55 | Twiun | I understand |
| 15:30.06 | Twiun | /home/root/Documents |
| 15:30.11 | Twiun | /mnt/cf/Documents |
| 15:30.18 | Twiun | and likewise for /mnt/card :) |
| 15:30.19 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:30.21 | doughecka | thx |
| 15:30.22 | Wintre | What Twiun said |
| 15:30.23 | doughecka | :) |
| 15:30.24 | cwaig | I find myself (for no readily explainable reason) looking for the source to kernel version 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-emdebix |
| 15:30.30 | Twiun | the document tab consolidates those dirs |
| 15:30.34 | Wintre | Root's home directory is different from what Qtopia thinks |
| 15:30.42 | doughecka | Twiun: cool |
| 15:30.43 | Twiun | cwaig: indeed? |
| 15:30.45 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:30.51 | cwaig | don't suppose anyone'd know where it is? |
| 15:31.07 | Twiun | cwaig: best person to ask would be kergoth after his meeting |
| 15:31.08 | doughecka | well, I need to move a text file to some folder, which I forgot it was, and rename it to something |
| 15:31.25 | Twiun | ... some folder ... rename it to something... |
| 15:31.42 | cwaig | Twiun: yeah, I kind of guessed that...thanks... |
| 15:31.47 | doughecka | yea |
| 15:31.50 | doughecka | aah |
| 15:32.13 | doughecka | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:32.41 | Twiun | doughecka: remember to also move its .desktop twin |
| 15:32.57 | doughecka | ? |
| 15:33.21 | Twiun | most documents will have two files - the document itself and a .desktop file with settings for it |
| 15:33.38 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:33.42 | doughecka | well, I dont need the settings |
| 15:33.48 | doughecka | do I |
| 15:33.49 | doughecka | ? |
| 15:33.50 | doughecka | :) |
| 15:33.53 | Wintre | Without the settings you get no icon |
| 15:34.00 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:34.12 | doughecka | spork: foon? |
| 15:34.21 | spork | :) |
| 15:34.26 | doughecka | ooh, this is getting warm... |
| 15:34.36 | spork | somebody gets it |
| 15:39.13 | doughecka | whats the desktop file called? |
| 15:39.59 | doughecka | I dont see one, its on a CF card... |
| 15:40.22 | Twiun | it'd have the same name as the original document, with .desktop appended |
| 15:40.30 | Twiun | if it's not there I'd say don't worry about it |
| 15:40.34 | doughecka | k |
| 15:40.42 | doughecka | yay, my Z is now tracking satellites |
| 15:41.43 | Wintre | Christ, I hate that. |
| 15:42.06 | Wintre | Worst thing I ever saw as a moron who had an autoaway script that would spit it out again every ten minutes |
| 15:42.18 | Wintre | "gone for 20 minutes..." "gone for 30 minutes..." |
| 15:42.35 | treke | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.16 | doughecka | haha |
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| 15:49.21 | doughecka | hey TimRiker |
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| 15:54.30 | doughecka | anyway I could sync the Z over infared? |
| 15:55.52 | Wintre | Presumably, if you work hard enough |
| 15:56.37 | Wintre | Sorry I'm not more help ;) |
| 15:56.39 | Wintre | ibot howto |
| 15:56.40 | | from memory, howto is at http://www.zauruszone.com/howtos/ or see xcompile for cross compiler setup |
| 15:56.48 | doughecka | haha |
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| 15:57.14 | doughecka | hmm, when I choose print from the menu... where does it go? |
| 15:57.28 | Twiun | /dev/null? |
| 15:57.33 | doughecka | figures |
| 15:57.56 | Twiun | I've never tried, so I honestly can't say |
| 15:58.06 | Wintre | From which menu? |
| 15:58.08 | doughecka | huh, save doesnt work either |
| 15:58.16 | doughecka | I guess its broke |
| 15:58.16 | doughecka | :) |
| 15:58.22 | doughecka | um |
| 15:58.40 | Twiun | and which app? |
| 15:58.42 | doughecka | Kaos, a fractal gernator |
| 15:59.16 | Twiun | isn't that a java app? |
| 15:59.19 | doughecka | ah, I see word doesnt have print, so I guess its just a thing carryed over from the port |
| 15:59.21 | doughecka | yea |
| 15:59.55 | Twiun | I was about to say... I doubt Jeode has any support for printing :) |
| 16:00.21 | doughecka | hehe |
| 16:00.39 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:01.03 | doughecka | so.. if I want to flash OZ, and I dont want to make it unflashable again, how would I make SURE the thing will flash? |
| 16:01.44 | doughecka | I think the last time I wanted to reflash, I used the CF reader I had, and maybe that was messing something up |
| 16:01.47 | Twiun | check: CF card filesystem is FAT16, check image filenames, check image md5 sums |
| 16:02.03 | doughecka | ok... |
| 16:02.18 | Twiun | and I mean check the md5 on the Z - I wouldn't trust the usb connection overmuch |
| 16:02.18 | doughecka | how do I check to see if the CF card is FAT16 on the Z? |
| 16:02.32 | doughecka | yea |
| 16:02.33 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:02.44 | Twiun | fdisk I *think* |
| 16:03.05 | doughecka | hm, no such thing as fdisk on the Z |
| 16:04.31 | Twiun | not sure then... mine worked ok from the word go |
| 16:05.36 | doughecka | hmm, I reformatted the CF card on the PC, but there is "things" about it I dont like, like XP decides if the card is >32, it will make it FAT12 |
| 16:05.36 | doughecka | er |
| 16:05.36 | doughecka | <32 |
| 16:05.48 | Twiun | ack |
| 16:06.05 | doughecka | kergoth said that was ok, but I dont really want to get stranded again |
| 16:06.28 | Twiun | best wait until you're near a CF reader? |
| 16:07.04 | doughecka | hm |
| 16:07.05 | doughecka | I dunno |
| 16:07.08 | doughecka | vfat? |
| 16:07.10 | doughecka | whats that? |
| 16:07.16 | doughecka | fat16? |
| 16:07.30 | Twiun | afaik |
| 16:07.44 | doughecka | ~afaik |
| 16:07.48 | doughecka | ~dict afaik |
| 16:08.19 | Twiun | afaik==as far as I know |
| 16:08.29 | doughecka | aah |
| 16:09.11 | Wintre | VFAT is MS's extension to FAT which adds long filenames and stuff. Came out with Win95 |
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| 16:10.09 | doughecka | ah |
| 16:10.09 | doughecka | ok |
| 16:10.57 | doughecka | hm |
| 16:14.04 | doughecka | whats the flashing mail light mean? |
| 16:14.14 | doughecka | I havnt setup a mail thing yet |
| 16:15.32 | doughecka | ahh, I started a internet activity light :) |
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| 16:27.52 | doughecka | hmm, how do I transfer files? |
| 16:28.24 | treke | read |
| 16:28.39 | doughecka | cool, I can ping it |
| 16:28.56 | doughecka | the intellasync app needs a folder so I can move files around |
| 16:30.46 | doughecka | foon |
| 16:32.47 | doughecka | aha! |
| 16:32.52 | doughecka | mkfs.msdos - CF cards that are used for ROM upgrades require this. Used in most devices. Holds up to 2GB. Default choice. |
| 16:32.56 | doughecka | mkfs.vfat - Dosfs + long filenames and Higher capacity (don't use for rom upgrades) |
| 16:32.58 | doughecka | whew |
| 16:32.59 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:37.47 | doughecka | huh |
| 16:37.48 | doughecka | cant format it |
| 16:39.34 | doughecka | says no such thing as /dev/hda1 |
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| 16:47.19 | doughecka | bah |
| 16:47.22 | doughecka | dumb stupid thing |
| 16:47.23 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:47.36 | doughecka | if its mounted, mkfs says it cant format it since its mounted |
| 16:47.50 | doughecka | I unmount it, and now it says it cant see a /dev/gda1 |
| 16:47.54 | doughecka | hda1 even |
| 16:48.10 | lcandell | nerdboy: you the nerdboy in #gentoo? |
| 16:48.16 | nerdboy | yup |
| 16:48.21 | doughecka | the one and only :P |
| 16:48.21 | lcandell | cool, whats up :) |
| 16:48.34 | lcandell | heh, hi doughecka |
| 16:48.41 | lcandell | cool more gentoo / zaurus users |
| 16:48.44 | herdboy | hahaha |
| 16:48.46 | lcandell | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.49 | herdboy | gentoo on zaurus? |
| 16:48.56 | herdboy | ;) |
| 16:49.03 | birdboy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.12 | oGMo | yeah that'd just take 20 years to install ;) |
| 16:49.18 | foon | yea |
| 16:49.34 | oGMo | can you imagine compiling qt on the z, even if you had the resources? |
| 16:49.40 | spork-foon | oGMo: no |
| 16:49.46 | spork-foon | hrm :) |
| 16:49.49 | oGMo | it takes like 3+ hours in my dual p2-350 ;) |
| 16:49.51 | kergoth | or you can wait for the OE infrastructure, which is based in part on portage, but with sane crosscompile handling, and ipk generation for ipkg use as the packaging system on the target. |
| 16:49.58 | kergoth | </shameless plug> |
| 16:50.00 | lcandell | oGMo: no i would die. |
| 16:50.06 | dougheckaa | kergoth: haha |
| 16:50.10 | lcandell | kergoth: you use gentoo as well huh? |
| 16:50.17 | dougheckaa | so, someone tell me why I cant format? |
| 16:50.23 | oGMo | lcandell: likely you would, of old age |
| 16:50.24 | oGMo | ;) |
| 16:50.25 | kergoth | I have. I'm still a debian junkie on most of my boxes |
| 16:50.30 | oGMo | kergoth: oe? |
| 16:50.36 | kergoth | openembedded. |
| 16:50.45 | dougheckaa | oGMo: haaa |
| 16:50.49 | lcandell | oGMo: omg i thought compiling X was a pain in the ass. |
| 16:51.14 | oGMo | X is pretty quick, it's all in C |
| 16:51.19 | lcandell | i think im going to debianize my new 486 lappie |
| 16:51.26 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 16:51.29 | dougheckaa | new? |
| 16:51.31 | lcandell | it only has a floppy drive and 324MB's or HD space |
| 16:51.34 | lcandell | haha for me it is :p |
| 16:51.43 | dougheckaa | :D |
| 16:51.57 | lcandell | scary part is the Z has more power than the lappie |
| 16:52.15 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 16:52.48 | dougheckaa | aha |
| 16:52.50 | dougheckaa | now it formats |
| 16:52.54 | dougheckaa | lame linux needed a reboot |
| 16:52.56 | lcandell | i figured why spend more $$$ on a laptop when i have the Z |
| 16:53.03 | dougheckaa | heh |
| 16:53.09 | lcandell | i only payed $25 for the lappie and $8 shipping |
| 16:53.18 | lcandell | so, its not a bad deal. |
| 16:53.22 | dougheckaa | ebay? |
| 16:53.26 | lcandell | yup ! |
| 16:53.45 | kergoth | dougheckaa: you probably ejected the card. you cant format once you've done an eject |
| 16:53.51 | kergoth | dougheckaa: do an *unmount*, not an eject |
| 16:53.52 | dougheckaa | and then I sold the battery for 70 more |
| 16:53.52 | kergoth | then you'll be fine |
| 16:54.08 | dougheckaa | kergoth: oooh, so the docs.zaurus.com is wrong? :) |
| 16:54.19 | kergoth | hey dont ask me, i havent read 90% of those |
| 16:54.21 | kergoth | probably |
| 16:54.22 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:54.25 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 16:54.29 | kergoth | the only one i read was the crosscompile one |
| 16:54.37 | kergoth | after i sent ben the cross shell scripts to source for it |
| 16:54.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:54.52 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 16:55.32 | dougheckaa | ok, so now I have a cf card ready for flashing |
| 16:55.36 | dougheckaa | all it needs is the files... |
| 16:56.02 | kergoth | no cf reader, eh? |
| 16:56.08 | kergoth | you better get this right the first time :) |
| 16:56.10 | dougheckaa | well, I dont trust it |
| 16:56.12 | kergoth | ftp them over |
| 16:56.13 | kergoth | ah |
| 16:56.21 | dougheckaa | ftp.. |
| 16:57.47 | dougheckaa | cant. ping. it. |
| 16:58.00 | kergoth | sharp. sucks. |
| 16:58.07 | kergoth | :P |
| 16:58.09 | kergoth | brb |
| 16:58.09 | dougheckaa | very. |
| 16:58.10 | dougheckaa | much |
| 16:58.11 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 16:58.45 | *** join/#zaurus ivan (~ivan@adsl-67-124-7-27.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 16:59.09 | dougheckaa | aha |
| 16:59.13 | dougheckaa | now it pings |
| 17:02.27 | dougheckaa | is there a FTP server on it by default? |
| 17:02.32 | kergoth | port 4242 |
| 17:02.39 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 17:02.43 | dougheckaa | sharp. sucks. |
| 17:02.45 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 17:03.15 | dougheckaa | yay |
| 17:03.39 | dougheckaa | so how do I move the stuff to /mnt/cf? |
| 17:04.41 | *** join/#zaurus blk-majik (jason@205.201.8.111) |
| 17:04.49 | *** join/#zaurus RSI (~RSI@202.56.208.186) |
| 17:04.59 | blk-majik | what happens if u try to flash the Z /w a fat32 formatted CF card? |
| 17:05.07 | dougheckaa | ick |
| 17:05.15 | dougheckaa | OSPACK? |
| 17:05.17 | dougheckaa | or OZ? |
| 17:05.25 | blk-majik | OZ |
| 17:05.44 | dougheckaa | whew, it wont flash, but you can try reformatting the card and try again |
| 17:05.55 | dougheckaa | format it to msdos |
| 17:06.00 | dougheckaa | fat16 |
| 17:06.13 | blk-majik | k, then my card must be fat16, caus it flashes |
| 17:06.17 | blk-majik | but it wont restart =[ |
| 17:06.18 | dougheckaa | if ur on XP it will format it as fat12, and I dunno if that works or not |
| 17:06.22 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 17:06.27 | dougheckaa | press full reset? |
| 17:06.39 | blk-majik | yup |
| 17:06.49 | dougheckaa | huh. |
| 17:06.56 | dougheckaa | what does it do? |
| 17:06.59 | dougheckaa | just sit there? |
| 17:07.09 | blk-majik | i flash, 2 light come on for ~5 mins |
| 17:07.14 | blk-majik | they go out, i press full reset |
| 17:07.22 | dougheckaa | it should jump up and dance around |
| 17:07.24 | dougheckaa | ;) |
| 17:07.24 | blk-majik | press On and nuf'n happens |
| 17:07.29 | blk-majik | no dancing |
| 17:07.34 | blk-majik | w8! |
| 17:07.35 | dougheckaa | try taking hte battery out and letting it sit for 5 min |
| 17:07.37 | blk-majik | it turned on this time! |
| 17:07.39 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 17:07.41 | blk-majik | the first time in like 2 weeks! |
| 17:07.42 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 17:07.45 | dougheckaa | wow |
| 17:07.47 | blk-majik | i just tried a new image |
| 17:07.51 | blk-majik | i as using 64/0 |
| 17:07.53 | blk-majik | and it wouldnt start |
| 17:07.57 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 17:08.08 | *** join/#zaurus zap-zero (andi@2001:768:18ff:17:0:0:0:0) |
| 17:08.19 | blk-majik | i went to 58/6 and it works fine |
| 17:08.20 | blk-majik | phew |
| 17:08.21 | blk-majik | =] |
| 17:08.26 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 17:08.26 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 17:08.36 | blk-majik | any idea why 64/0 didnt wana work? |
| 17:08.43 | blk-majik | i have a 256mb sd card |
| 17:08.47 | dougheckaa | nope |
| 17:08.53 | blk-majik | (but it was vfat ) |
| 17:08.54 | dougheckaa | I never tried it |
| 17:09.03 | blk-majik | ill piss /w it some more =] |
| 17:09.05 | blk-majik | thx tho |
| 17:09.11 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 17:09.44 | dougheckaa | kergoth: will OZ run EVERY app that comes in a ipkg? |
| 17:09.55 | dougheckaa | or is there something diferent that will make apps mess up? |
| 17:10.18 | oGMo | well if the ipk isn't the right platform or architecture... |
| 17:10.28 | dougheckaa | well yea |
| 17:10.34 | dougheckaa | but if it worked on the sharp rom |
| 17:10.39 | dougheckaa | will it work on OZ? |
| 17:10.48 | oGMo | ..which is technically a different platform.. ;) |
| 17:10.58 | *** join/#zaurus mutexer (tnspock@adsl-34-169-49.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:11.07 | dougheckaa | it is? |
| 17:11.13 | dougheckaa | its... linux! :) |
| 17:11.15 | oGMo | dougheckaa: i think they're shooting for 100% compatibility |
| 17:11.20 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 17:11.21 | dougheckaa | ok |
| 17:11.26 | oGMo | and i'm fairly sure they've got it so far |
| 17:13.32 | *** join/#zaurus tez (adamk1@adamk1.demon.co.uk) |
| 17:15.52 | dougheckaa | how do I test the MD5? |
| 17:17.14 | treke | md5sum -c |
| 17:17.38 | dougheckaa | thx |
| 17:18.03 | dougheckaa | whats -c do? |
| 17:19.35 | dougheckaa | it just sits there... |
| 17:19.38 | dougheckaa | aha |
| 17:21.07 | dougheckaa | ok.... initrd.bin and zImage is correct |
| 17:22.54 | dougheckaa | here goes the flashing.... |
| 17:23.10 | dougheckaa | wheeew |
| 17:23.21 | dougheckaa | its lighting up both lights... whew |
| 17:24.29 | hExML | no smoke? |
| 17:24.56 | RSI | cann anyyoe sell me a sharp zauurud |
| 17:24.57 | RSI | s |
| 17:25.32 | hExML | i'm sure someone could if they were willing. |
| 17:26.41 | dougheckaa | yay |
| 17:26.43 | dougheckaa | the lights are off |
| 17:26.48 | kergoth | or, you could check ebay or tiger direct or something, like everyone else |
| 17:26.59 | dougheckaa | tigerdirect has them for 199 |
| 17:27.23 | dougheckaa | oooooooh |
| 17:27.25 | dougheckaa | openzaurus |
| 17:27.26 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 17:27.35 | dougheckaa | I like that startup screen |
| 17:27.57 | Twiun | nice, isn't it? |
| 17:28.06 | dougheckaa | who made it? |
| 17:28.07 | dougheckaa | hehe |
| 17:28.32 | kergoth | whardier/hardwire |
| 17:28.36 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 17:28.41 | kergoth | shane spencer, the guy who did pingizauru in the first place |
| 17:28.48 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 17:29.13 | dougheckaa | lots of spencers here then |
| 17:29.14 | dougheckaa | thats 3 |
| 17:29.19 | kergoth | uh, thats his last name |
| 17:29.23 | kergoth | sharp is spencer huang |
| 17:29.25 | dougheckaa | sniper, mspencer, and and shane |
| 17:29.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:29.28 | RSI | l;ol |
| 17:29.32 | RSI | plz sell |
| 17:29.35 | dougheckaa | aaah |
| 17:29.37 | RSI | orr free |
| 17:29.39 | RSI | ;0 |
| 17:29.41 | RSI | ;) |
| 17:30.16 | dougheckaa | how long does it do this? |
| 17:30.23 | kergoth | 5-10 minutes, iirc |
| 17:30.24 | kergoth | it takes a while |
| 17:30.27 | kergoth | ssh key generation |
| 17:30.28 | kergoth | depmod -a |
| 17:30.29 | kergoth | etc |
| 17:30.36 | dougheckaa | eww |
| 17:30.40 | dougheckaa | worse than gentoo |
| 17:30.41 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 17:30.52 | kergoth | eh? |
| 17:30.58 | dougheckaa | well, almost as bad |
| 17:30.59 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 17:31.14 | kergoth | this is the only way to package an image that was built on a non-ARM machine. |
| 17:31.15 | dougheckaa | yay, done |
| 17:31.24 | dougheckaa | ah, cool |
| 17:32.02 | dougheckaa | wow, this is sooooooo much better than sharps rom |
| 17:32.08 | kergoth | opie is perty |
| 17:32.17 | kergoth | go into appearance and check out some of the styles :) |
| 17:32.18 | dougheckaa | haha! rotate! :P |
| 17:32.32 | dougheckaa | ooh, cool |
| 17:32.56 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 17:33.19 | RSI | cann anyyoe sell me a sharp zauurud |
| 17:33.22 | RSI | orr free |
| 17:33.24 | RSI | ;) |
| 17:33.26 | RSI | plz sell |
| 17:33.28 | RSI | orr free |
| 17:33.30 | dougheckaa | ebay |
| 17:33.30 | RSI | plz |
| 17:33.35 | mutexer | I got one for $400 |
| 17:33.39 | mutexer | 5000D |
| 17:33.41 | dougheckaa | ~ebay |
| 17:33.42 | | methinks ebay is a7r's new friend when it comes to upgrading a7r's network. ;> |
| 17:33.43 | RSI | i have no / less monet |
| 17:33.48 | kergoth | RSI: orr get off your ass and go look on ebay or tiger direct |
| 17:33.51 | kergoth | RSI: instead of wasting our time. |
| 17:33.53 | RSI | lol |
| 17:33.57 | RSI | sorrry |
| 17:33.59 | RSI | :( |
| 17:34.01 | mutexer | try the helping hand |
| 17:34.06 | mutexer | or the salvation army |
| 17:34.07 | hExML | yeah, people are giving away free zauruses |
| 17:34.12 | mutexer | maybe they give out free electronics now |
| 17:34.19 | dougheckaa | and laptops... |
| 17:34.22 | hExML | yeah |
| 17:34.22 | dougheckaa | and computers... |
| 17:34.26 | RSI | rr u serious |
| 17:34.33 | hExML | serious as a clown show |
| 17:34.42 | kergoth | ~fishslap RSI |
| 17:34.43 | | ACTION slaps RSI up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 17:34.50 | dougheckaa | yup |
| 17:34.55 | RSI | mutexer |
| 17:34.59 | RSI | :(\\ |
| 17:35.12 | hExML | Can someone send me a free zaurus? thanks. |
| 17:35.16 | dougheckaa | haaaaa, liquid is sooo OS X |
| 17:35.16 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 17:35.32 | kergoth | liquid is nice, but the dialog redraw delay is noticable |
| 17:35.35 | kergoth | pisses me off |
| 17:35.38 | kergoth | so i stick to flat |
| 17:35.45 | RSI | ool; |
| 17:35.56 | mutexer | RSI: please dont message me again |
| 17:36.01 | dougheckaa | oh |
| 17:36.11 | dougheckaa | ~free zaurus hExML |
| 17:36.12 | | ACTION gives hExML a free zaurus |
| 17:36.22 | hExML | RSI: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=S213-1076%20P |
| 17:36.23 | RSI | do u have old palmtop tto sell |
| 17:36.27 | dougheckaa | what delay? |
| 17:36.29 | hExML | ty ibot |
| 17:36.29 | RSI | thx |
| 17:36.40 | kergoth | RSI: what part of 'go look on ebay' did you not comprehend? |
| 17:36.46 | RSI | a trrooja |
| 17:36.47 | RSI | n |
| 17:36.49 | RSI | okok |
| 17:36.50 | kergoth | RSI: if you dont cease the begging, you will be removed from this channel. |
| 17:36.50 | *** join/#zaurus Neo|Home (~neotron@12-206-70-34.client.attbi.com) |
| 17:37.16 | RSI | okok |
| 17:37.24 | RSI | I have alrredy |
| 17:37.29 | dougheckaa | ~nslookup 202.56.208.186 |
| 17:37.37 | dougheckaa | interesting |
| 17:37.45 | RSI | do u have old palmtop tto sell mutexer |
| 17:37.52 | *** kick/#zaurus [RSI!~kergoth@dsl081-228-056.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] by kergoth (kergoth) |
| 17:37.53 | hExML | :o |
| 17:38.02 | dougheckaa | boooom |
| 17:38.09 | hExML | is he just messing with you? |
| 17:38.11 | dougheckaa | BBJ strikes again! |
| 17:38.16 | mutexer | how many times do I have to say no motherfu.... oh thanks kergoth |
| 17:38.23 | *** join/#zaurus RSI (~RSI@202.56.208.186) |
| 17:38.25 | RSI | i |
| 17:38.27 | kergoth | who cares? i dont tolerate trolls either |
| 17:38.27 | RSI | \was not |
| 17:38.32 | kergoth | RSI: thats your final warning. |
| 17:38.35 | RSI | NBEGGIN |
| 17:38.43 | RSI | this time |
| 17:38.43 | dougheckaa | RSI: lookout for the BBJ |
| 17:38.44 | RSI | plz |
| 17:38.44 | kergoth | RSI: ask about a free or cheap zaurus again, and you wont be coming back. |
| 17:38.58 | hExML | RSI: acquire a zaurus by yourself. |
| 17:39.33 | RSI | ok but I was askin mutexer for a trade |
| 17:39.38 | RSI | thatts it\ |
| 17:39.49 | mutexer | I dont have anything to trade you? |
| 17:39.57 | mutexer | you want a banna peel or something? |
| 17:40.16 | mutexer | I down have a palmtop |
| 17:40.24 | mutexer | dont |
| 17:40.48 | RSI | ok |
| 17:41.06 | kergoth | RSI: i dont give a flying fuck. find a Z on your own time, or in private discussion. |
| 17:41.17 | RSI | can I pvt msg u |
| 17:41.28 | kergoth | me? hell no. |
| 17:41.35 | kergoth | i dont like you. i dont want to talk to you. |
| 17:41.49 | RSI | not u |
| 17:41.55 | RSI | mutexer |
| 17:42.05 | RSI | mutexer can I pvt u |
| 17:42.08 | mutexer | no you cannot |
| 17:42.08 | kergoth | 12:36 < mutexer> RSI: please dont message me again |
| 17:42.13 | kergoth | are you dense? |
| 17:42.18 | RSI | I didnt |
| 17:42.21 | kergoth | what part of dont message me again did you miss? |
| 17:42.24 | RSI | ker=\ |
| 17:42.30 | RSI | ???? |
| 17:42.33 | RSI | leave it |
| 17:42.53 | *** kick/#zaurus [RSI!~kergoth@dsl081-228-056.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] by kergoth (LEAVE IT) |
| 17:43.18 | hExML | so I guess there really is a shallow end of the gene pool |
| 17:43.28 | absentiaW | you better believe it. |
| 17:43.37 | dougheckaa | the BBJ strikes again! |
| 17:43.38 | absentiaW | lets hear it for the darwin awards |
| 17:43.49 | mutexer | unfortunately all of the shallow end has internet access |
| 17:44.00 | hExML | usually aol |
| 17:44.03 | hExML | but not in this case |
| 17:44.08 | dougheckaa | cant. ping. zaurus. |
| 17:44.30 | kergoth | read. the. faq. |
| 17:44.31 | hExML | dough: said like captain kirk? |
| 17:44.37 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 17:44.42 | dougheckaa | I forgot about that |
| 17:44.56 | kergoth | the sync faq, specifically |
| 17:45.08 | dougheckaa | hm, |
| 17:45.11 | dougheckaa | I never saw that |
| 17:45.12 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 17:45.49 | hExML | nice faq |
| 17:46.25 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 17:46.28 | dougheckaa | thats funny |
| 17:46.42 | hExML | the girl with the dinosaur faq? |
| 17:46.45 | dougheckaa | I dont have a Local Area Connection for the Zaurus |
| 17:46.56 | hExML | oh it's a zaurus.. |
| 17:47.04 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 17:47.05 | hExML | he looks happy... |
| 17:47.14 | kergoth | the network connection doesnt exist if the Z isnt plugged in |
| 17:47.19 | kergoth | also check device manager for a ? item |
| 17:47.25 | dougheckaa | k |
| 17:47.28 | kergoth | if itss there, you removed the Z without ejecting it properly from windows (win2k/xp) |
| 17:47.38 | kergoth | in which case, uninstall that device, eject, and reinsert the Z onto the usb bus |
| 17:47.42 | kergoth | then it'll reinstall the drivers, and come up again |
| 17:47.51 | dougheckaa | aya |
| 17:47.52 | dougheckaa | aha |
| 17:47.53 | dougheckaa | there it is |
| 17:48.06 | dougheckaa | so I cant just pull the Z out of the cradle? |
| 17:48.17 | kergoth | nope. technically you shouldnt have with sharp either. |
| 17:48.25 | kergoth | it wreaks havok on the windows drivers |
| 17:48.28 | dougheckaa | ick |
| 17:48.59 | TimRiker | ~lart windows |
| 17:49.22 | dougheckaa | so, if I want to unplug my Z, I have to... |
| 17:49.32 | kergoth | uninstall and reinstall the device |
| 17:49.36 | dougheckaa | click that safely remove device thing? |
| 17:49.37 | kergoth | having fun yet? |
| 17:49.37 | absentiaW | what's the saying? unix is user friendly, it's just particular in who it considers a friend. |
| 17:49.40 | kergoth | yeah |
| 17:49.46 | kergoth | if you safely remove it, itll be happy |
| 17:49.49 | dougheckaa | thats stupid |
| 17:49.54 | kergoth | yep |
| 17:50.58 | dougheckaa | whats the defualt gateway on the Z supposed to be? |
| 17:51.24 | kergoth | whatever you set the desktop ip to |
| 17:51.27 | kergoth | generally, 192.168.129.1 |
| 17:51.30 | dougheckaa | ok |
| 17:53.03 | dougheckaa | huh |
| 17:53.08 | dougheckaa | still no ping... |
| 17:53.28 | kergoth | you hardcoded the desktop side ip to 192.168.129.1? |
| 17:53.33 | dougheckaa | yup |
| 17:53.35 | kergoth | and the Z is 192.168.129.201 in networksettings? |
| 17:53.41 | kergoth | and you cant ping 201 from 1? |
| 17:53.42 | kergoth | odd |
| 17:53.52 | dougheckaa | yup |
| 17:54.08 | dougheckaa | let me modify the order of things |
| 17:54.47 | dougheckaa | it pinged fine from sharp |
| 17:55.18 | kergoth | is the interface UP on the Z? |
| 17:55.24 | kergoth | in networksettings, does it have the up arrow? |
| 17:55.28 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 17:55.42 | dougheckaa | heh, thats clever |
| 17:55.55 | kergoth | hmm, havent heard of any probs |
| 17:56.27 | dougheckaa | its XP |
| 17:56.54 | kergoth | it should work with XP though, it did in my testing |
| 17:56.55 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:56.59 | kergoth | reboot windows? |
| 17:57.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:57.03 | dougheckaa | um |
| 17:57.05 | dougheckaa | no |
| 17:57.11 | dougheckaa | I dont like rebooting |
| 17:57.17 | dougheckaa | it takes about 5 min to get back up |
| 17:57.18 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 17:57.22 | kergoth | if you dont like rebooting, why are you running windows? :P |
| 17:57.47 | dougheckaa | impressive for Ms stuff |
| 17:57.52 | kergoth | yeah |
| 17:58.07 | dougheckaa | till some app goes haywire |
| 17:58.12 | dougheckaa | and locks it all up |
| 17:58.17 | kergoth | XP's memory usage is absolutely horrendous |
| 17:58.31 | kergoth | i'm always running tweakxp and having it flush the cached shit |
| 17:58.32 | dougheckaa | hehe |
| 17:58.38 | dougheckaa | tweakxp? |
| 17:58.44 | dougheckaa | is it fre? |
| 17:58.50 | kergoth | shareware or something, iirc |
| 17:58.55 | kergoth | i dont have an xp box up anymore |
| 17:58.57 | kergoth | did though, for gaming |
| 17:59.06 | dougheckaa | heh |
| 17:59.19 | wParam | with hibernates... so it was only RUNNING for like 2/3 that |
| 17:59.23 | *** join/#zaurus ioerror (root@bolt.sonic.net) |
| 17:59.27 | dougheckaa | wParam: that helps |
| 17:59.34 | dougheckaa | ioerror: hey, howed you do that? |
| 17:59.40 | dougheckaa | oooh |
| 17:59.48 | ioerror | I am not root |
| 17:59.48 | ioerror | FYI |
| 17:59.51 | dougheckaa | dont use xchat through root |
| 17:59.53 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 17:59.58 | ioerror | I am not root |
| 18:00.07 | ioerror | I am using a socks 4 proxy via open ssh |
| 18:00.11 | ioerror | it's a bug with ident |
| 18:00.11 | dougheckaa | ick |
| 18:00.12 | kergoth | who cares? |
| 18:00.13 | ioerror | and openssh |
| 18:00.15 | kergoth | certainly not i |
| 18:00.24 | ioerror | kergoth: ditto |
| 18:00.25 | dougheckaa | said the little red hen |
| 18:04.33 | ioerror | Is there a way to install a terminal on the sharp rom if you cannot sync the zaurus with your computer? |
| 18:05.52 | *** join/#zaurus dougheckaa (WOZNIAK@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 18:10.08 | fliplap | copy the ipk to a CF card |
| 18:10.21 | fliplap | assuming you have a way to write CF cards |
| 18:12.05 | ioerror | I do not. |
| 18:12.13 | ioerror | Well I suppose I will have to buy one today |
| 18:12.27 | dougheckaa | dont get a cheap one if ur wanting to flash |
| 18:12.28 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 18:12.41 | fliplap | why not |
| 18:13.05 | fliplap | a cf writer is a cf writer to me |
| 18:13.13 | dougheckaa | well, mine had problems |
| 18:13.37 | *** join/#zaurus SuKoShi (~sukoshi@dyn-81-191-0-230.ppp.tiscali.fr) |
| 18:14.42 | fliplap | i just use a CF adapter for my laptop |
| 18:14.56 | dougheckaa | oh |
| 18:15.07 | dougheckaa | I have a usb one |
| 18:16.59 | dougheckaa | heheh, my Z can calculate the orbit of the ISS |
| 18:19.06 | *** join/#zaurus ljp (~ljp@206.168.3.155) |
| 18:19.12 | dougheckaa | still cant ping it |
| 18:24.11 | dougheckaa | still no ping |
| 18:25.42 | dougheckaa | yay |
| 18:25.44 | dougheckaa | its pings |
| 18:26.00 | dougheckaa | lamest driver on the planet |
| 18:29.09 | dougheckaa | OZ uses the same FTP port? |
| 18:29.16 | zap-zero | 4242? |
| 18:29.19 | zap-zero | yup |
| 18:29.21 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 18:29.25 | dougheckaa | thx |
| 18:30.01 | dougheckaa | hjm |
| 18:30.06 | dougheckaa | do I have to do anything special |
| 18:30.13 | dougheckaa | like start a FTP deamon or something? |
| 18:31.04 | dougheckaa | bah |
| 18:31.06 | dougheckaa | it locked up on me |
| 18:31.22 | dougheckaa | whats the fix for that? |
| 18:36.40 | dougheckaa | ~usb |
| 18:36.41 | | i heard usb is at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking |
| 18:36.50 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 18:40.26 | dougheckaa | ur so cool |
| 18:42.26 | dougheckaa | ok, so how do I get some sound out of this thing |
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| 18:51.53 | dougheckaa | hrm |
| 18:54.27 | bugfixer | FYI - Just got my June 2003 edition of the Linux Joural, there is a nice 3 page article on the SL-C700 in there |
| 18:54.37 | dougheckaa | oooh |
| 18:54.42 | dougheckaa | scan it in and put it online |
| 18:54.43 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 18:54.53 | dougheckaa | whats a good webbrowser? |
| 18:55.50 | bugfixer | for what platform |
| 18:55.54 | dougheckaa | zaurus |
| 18:55.58 | dougheckaa | OZ |
| 18:56.41 | bugfixer | konquer |
| 18:57.11 | dougheckaa | thx |
| 18:57.51 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 18:57.54 | dougheckaa | where do I get that? :P |
| 18:58.15 | dougheckaa | bleh |
| 18:58.20 | dougheckaa | they move the darn links around |
| 18:59.01 | *** join/#zaurus Neo|Home (~neotron@12-206-70-34.client.attbi.com) |
| 19:00.10 | dougheckaa | whats the best video/audio player for the Z? |
| 19:01.52 | bugfixer | check this link http://www.openzaurus.org/official/stable/feed/ |
| 19:02.13 | zap-zero | dougheckaa: or use AQPkg |
| 19:02.17 | dougheckaa | ewww, lots of files |
| 19:02.20 | dougheckaa | AQPkg? |
| 19:02.28 | zap-zero | the packet manager |
| 19:02.33 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 19:02.33 | zap-zero | in settings tab |
| 19:02.36 | dougheckaa | oooh |
| 19:02.39 | dougheckaa | is that whats thats for |
| 19:02.40 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 19:02.42 | zap-zero | you can view all those files in stable feed |
| 19:02.53 | zap-zero | and select, install, whatever |
| 19:02.59 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 19:12.21 | *** join/#zaurus frankps (~frankps@10.80-202-169.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:13.49 | hardwire | eh? |
| 19:14.01 | dougheckaa | ? |
| 19:15.03 | kergoth | I like keeping the OZ images rather minimal. It shows off the fact that flash is readwrite, the fact that you can install things there |
| 19:15.12 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 19:15.24 | dougheckaa | does it include FTP by default? |
| 19:15.31 | kergoth`bbl | opie runs a ftp server on 4242 as well, same as sharp |
| 19:15.37 | kergoth`bbl | but scp/sftp is easier, since you have ssh goin |
| 19:15.37 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 19:15.44 | dougheckaa | ssh is on there too? |
| 19:15.46 | kergoth`bbl | grab winscp and have fun |
| 19:15.50 | dougheckaa | hah |
| 19:15.51 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 19:15.54 | kergoth`bbl | k bbl |
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| 19:39.26 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 19:39.33 | dougheckaa | opieplayer doesnt play my sound |
| 19:48.34 | dougheckaa | how do I get it to play out of the buzzer? |
| 19:50.01 | fliplap | on OZ? |
| 19:50.05 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 19:50.11 | fliplap | mv /dev/dsp /dev/dsp.old |
| 19:50.16 | fliplap | ln -s /dev/dsp2 /dev/dsp |
| 19:50.24 | dougheckaa | thx |
| 19:50.33 | dougheckaa | will that still keep the headphone jack working? |
| 19:50.44 | fliplap | no |
| 19:50.50 | dougheckaa | oh |
| 19:51.00 | fliplap | you can write a quick script todo it tho |
| 19:51.01 | dougheckaa | I thought there was a way that would auto switch between the 2 |
| 19:51.07 | fliplap | not yet |
| 19:51.08 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 19:51.35 | fliplap | i suppose i could write a dock/taskbar app to switch em |
| 19:51.44 | dougheckaa | patches welcome! :P |
| 19:52.05 | fliplap | at least until they're done the auto stuff |
| 19:52.13 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 19:54.37 | kergoth`bbl | or you can use xmms |
| 19:54.49 | dougheckaa | does it have a gui? |
| 19:55.14 | dougheckaa | oh wait... |
| 19:57.46 | kergoth`bbl | ~lart dougheckaa |
| 19:58.25 | absentiaW | heheh |
| 19:58.42 | dougheckaa | I just gotta try it |
| 19:58.47 | kergoth`bbl | bills suck. |
| 19:58.54 | dougheckaa | ? |
| 19:58.58 | dougheckaa | I know bill sucks |
| 19:59.00 | *** join/#zaurus BSDKnight (~Phantom@lsanca2-ar33-4-35-185-109.lsanca2.dsl-verizon.net) |
| 19:59.10 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 19:59.12 | kergoth`bbl | i'm 3 months behind on my mortgage, and it'll take me at least a month or two at TI to get caught up |
| 19:59.19 | dougheckaa | ouch |
| 19:59.19 | *** part/#zaurus BSDKnight (~Phantom@lsanca2-ar33-4-35-185-109.lsanca2.dsl-verizon.net) |
| 19:59.21 | kergoth`bbl | but they could easily start forclosure before then |
| 19:59.27 | dougheckaa | will they allow that? |
| 19:59.31 | dougheckaa | ick |
| 19:59.38 | kergoth`bbl | going to have to drop by wells fargo and see if i can get a debt consolodation loan to get caught up |
| 19:59.45 | kergoth`bbl | then pay that off once i'm at ti |
| 19:59.56 | dougheckaa | heh |
| 20:00.00 | absentiaW | good luck |
| 20:00.16 | Twiun | kergoth`bbl: that image worked :) |
| 20:00.20 | dougheckaa | btw, how do I fix that locking up when its on the cradle? |
| 20:00.28 | kergoth`bbl | install usbd-common |
| 20:00.29 | Twiun | kergoth`bbl: well, save for networking, but I think I'll be able to fix that |
| 20:00.35 | kergoth`bbl | Twiun: nice |
| 20:00.38 | dougheckaa | k |
| 20:00.54 | dougheckaa | oooh, now I have a palm pilot.. :) |
| 20:02.01 | Twiun | kergoth`bbl: wonder how the Z will behave without a taskbar :) |
| 20:02.19 | kergoth`bbl | opie-taskbar is the launcher |
| 20:02.24 | kergoth`bbl | running the app directly with -qws then? |
| 20:03.06 | Twiun | or with a stripped-down server |
| 20:03.10 | kergoth`bbl | cool |
| 20:03.13 | dougheckaa | how do I get rid of the media inserted thing? |
| 20:03.17 | Twiun | I've made a qwsserver binary -> 4k :) |
| 20:03.39 | kergoth`bbl | dougheckaa: ? |
| 20:04.04 | dougheckaa | if I put a CF card in it, it pops a window up saying if it would like to be scanned |
| 20:04.19 | *** join/#zaurus kurre (~kurre@ncircle.nullnet.fi) |
| 20:04.24 | kergoth`bbl | uh, check 'dont ask again for this media' |
| 20:04.25 | kergoth`bbl | heh |
| 20:04.30 | dougheckaa | I did |
| 20:04.31 | kergoth`bbl | or uninstall opie-mediummountgui |
| 20:04.35 | dougheckaa | still does it |
| 20:04.40 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 20:04.50 | dougheckaa | xmms wont start either |
| 20:04.54 | dougheckaa | :( |
| 20:05.13 | dougheckaa | nor quake... |
| 20:05.21 | dougheckaa | nor mail |
| 20:05.29 | Twiun | quake isn't worth it on the Z anyway |
| 20:05.38 | Twiun | waste of space |
| 20:05.42 | dougheckaa | yea, but I just wanted to check it out |
| 20:05.42 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 20:05.45 | kergoth`bbl | xmms works just fine here |
| 20:05.51 | kergoth`bbl | wait let me guess |
| 20:05.57 | kergoth`bbl | yoiu're using fucked up ipks from zsi? |
| 20:06.04 | *** join/#zaurus marvi ([mztAh2LTy@h212217194064.kommunicera.umea.se) |
| 20:06.05 | dougheckaa | umm |
| 20:06.06 | dougheckaa | possibly |
| 20:06.08 | kergoth`bbl | instead of the OZ official supported ones in our oz official feeds? |
| 20:06.11 | kergoth`bbl | yep, thought so. |
| 20:06.18 | dougheckaa | actully... |
| 20:06.34 | Twiun | anyone seen his muzzle? |
| 20:06.35 | dougheckaa | http://docs.zaurus.com/feed/ |
| 20:06.38 | dougheckaa | thats where I got it |
| 20:06.43 | kergoth`bbl | yep |
| 20:06.45 | kergoth`bbl | like i said. |
| 20:06.47 | kergoth`bbl | ALWAYS |
| 20:06.50 | kergoth`bbl | use the ones in the oz feeds |
| 20:06.55 | kergoth`bbl | unless you have an explicit reason otherwise |
| 20:06.56 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 20:07.01 | dougheckaa | ok |
| 20:07.03 | kergoth`bbl | and even then, dont do so without asking someone with a clue |
| 20:07.04 | kergoth`bbl | :P |
| 20:07.10 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 20:07.20 | kergoth`bbl | download page. and in aqpkg |
| 20:07.32 | dougheckaa | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/stable/feed/ |
| 20:07.43 | kergoth`bbl | yep |
| 20:07.44 | Twiun | kergoth`bbl: it seems fusion is restoring the sf files, think we could persuade him to update the packages too? |
| 20:07.57 | kergoth`bbl | update what packages? |
| 20:08.05 | dougheckaa | there is no xmms in there... :( |
| 20:08.11 | kergoth`bbl | look in unstable |
| 20:08.15 | kergoth`bbl | and read the damn mailing list archives |
| 20:08.23 | kergoth`bbl | you arent the first person to install oz |
| 20:08.25 | kergoth`bbl | heh |
| 20:08.26 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 20:09.50 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 20:10.07 | dougheckaa | AQpkg.. thats fetches it off the web? |
| 20:10.18 | kergoth | aqpkg can install from remote feeds or local ipkls |
| 20:10.44 | dougheckaa | ok... |
| 20:11.04 | dougheckaa | huh, cant resolve th DNS name... |
| 20:12.05 | kergoth | set your dns servers |
| 20:12.12 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 20:12.16 | kergoth | assuming you have winxp ics or proxying setup |
| 20:12.18 | dougheckaa | I just did, and it still wont get out.. |
| 20:12.21 | dougheckaa | oh |
| 20:12.22 | dougheckaa | no I dont |
| 20:12.36 | kergoth | read the Z connectivity howto |
| 20:12.40 | kergoth | most of it applies to both oz and sharp |
| 20:17.30 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 20:18.05 | dougheckaa | ~ping |
| 20:18.06 | | pong |
| 20:18.44 | dougheckaa | I guess I setup the zaurus so it gets it ip correctly? |
| 20:18.51 | dougheckaa | automatically? |
| 20:19.02 | kergoth | uh, not generally, no |
| 20:19.08 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 20:19.19 | kergoth | depends on how you want to set it up |
| 20:19.27 | kergoth | personally, i dont like ICS much, so i use winproxy |
| 20:19.28 | dougheckaa | so I set the gateway on the Z to my computer? |
| 20:19.32 | kergoth | yes |
| 20:19.36 | dougheckaa | winproxy.. is it free? |
| 20:19.37 | kergoth | default is already setup that way |
| 20:19.40 | kergoth | 192.168.129.1 |
| 20:19.48 | kergoth | which is the desktop ip of the usb |
| 20:19.55 | kergoth | shareware, iirc |
| 20:20.00 | dougheckaa | yea, but ICS changed the IP |
| 20:20.16 | kergoth | yeah, it does that |
| 20:20.20 | kergoth | hence why i dislike ics |
| 20:20.22 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:20.26 | dougheckaa | change it back? |
| 20:26.56 | dougheckaa | uh oh |
| 20:27.00 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 20:27.02 | CuCullin | "OW" Opiesync for Windows. Because it hurts to use it. |
| 20:27.03 | CuCullin | :) |
| 20:27.09 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 20:28.04 | CuCullin | I should test longhorn friendliness though, just to see if it will work.... maybe ill work on that tonight. |
| 20:32.14 | dougheckaa | ooh, the web browser starts now |
| 20:34.19 | dougheckaa | bah, stupid depenceiess |
| 20:40.27 | *** join/#zaurus zauruslover (~nicedude@dhcp-128-107-165-198.cisco.com) |
| 20:41.38 | zauruslover | hey guys ... is anyone aware of any AvantGo type of service for the Z ? |
| 20:41.47 | dougheckaa | nope |
| 20:42.24 | zauruslover | aah ... think its time for us to ask Avantgo to support Linux / Java then :) |
| 20:42.48 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 20:42.54 | zauruslover | :) |
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| 20:49.59 | cor | zauruslover: i use an offline reader to provide similar functionality |
| 20:50.21 | cor | i bought zepo, i'm really happy with it so far |
| 20:50.57 | zauruslover | hmmm ... is there some utility to download/sync things like Maps from Mapquest etc (where they have an icon: Download to PDA) ? |
| 20:51.04 | cor | the hard part is finding sites that provide their content in "wireless" format...all the sites that I use to use from AvantGo have their AvantGo URLs hidin |
| 20:51.10 | zauruslover | zepo is the reader you are talking about ? |
| 20:51.31 | cor | yes, it's commercial, i hear there are free offline readers too |
| 20:51.49 | dougheckaa | aka qget |
| 20:51.49 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 20:51.50 | dougheckaa | er |
| 20:51.51 | dougheckaa | wget |
| 20:52.11 | zauruslover | oh ok |
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| 21:02.04 | icefox | seg in: KGVPart::writeSettings () |
| 21:02.40 | cor | icefox: how ya been? |
| 21:02.52 | icefox | good |
| 21:03.02 | icefox | Been working at home, gettings tuff done |
| 21:03.10 | icefox | browsing ebay :) |
| 21:03.20 | cor | good to hear |
| 21:03.27 | icefox | actually did a backup |
| 21:03.28 | icefox | ! |
| 21:03.33 | cor | qt projects? |
| 21:03.37 | icefox | yup |
| 21:04.02 | icefox | updated all of my projects on my website and moved a number of them to qt3 |
| 21:04.23 | icefox | moved my wife to linux. Boy is she happy about no popups |
| 21:04.30 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 21:04.31 | cor | haha what desktop? |
| 21:04.36 | cor | kde3.1? |
| 21:04.39 | treke | openbox |
| 21:04.39 | dougheckaa | does it matter? |
| 21:04.40 | icefox | course |
| 21:04.40 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 21:04.50 | treke | screw kde :) |
| 21:05.28 | cor | kde is the best thing that's happened to computers since tetris |
| 21:05.32 | dougheckaa | how do I make a script for linux? |
| 21:05.36 | dougheckaa | something like a bat file |
| 21:05.40 | treke | in a text editor |
| 21:05.43 | Wintre | You write a shell script |
| 21:05.47 | dougheckaa | yea |
| 21:05.54 | Wintre | Start with #!/bin/sh and just put in shell commands |
| 21:05.55 | icefox | cor: been reducing the bin and src size of a large number of kde apps |
| 21:06.01 | dougheckaa | thx |
| 21:06.08 | cor | icefox: which apps? |
| 21:06.40 | cor | icefox: have you seen karamba? |
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| 21:07.29 | icefox | cor: quite a number of the games |
| 21:07.59 | icefox | kreversi is actually fun! |
| 21:10.38 | dougheckaa | ok |
| 21:10.48 | dougheckaa | so how do I start my shell script |
| 21:11.06 | Wintre | chmod is executable |
| 21:11.08 | Wintre | then just run it |
| 21:11.16 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 21:11.25 | zauruslover | hey there's Mazingo (equivalent of Avantgo) for the Z (http://www.mazingo.net/pc/download_zaurus.php) ... I haven't got a Z yet ... it should be coming in next week ... I'd appreciate if someone could give it a shot and let me know how it works ... can you also download maps from mapquest with the "Download to PDA" option ? |
| 21:11.47 | zap-zero | what's that? gps application? |
| 21:11.59 | treke | zauruslover: not that I know of |
| 21:12.16 | zauruslover | zap-zero : not really ... its a sync application like avantgo from what I can make out of it :) |
| 21:12.32 | zap-zero | oic |
| 21:12.47 | zap-zero | so mapquest is some unrelated thing? |
| 21:12.50 | treke | zauruslover: mapquest uses avantgo |
| 21:13.12 | zap-zero | well well |
| 21:13.20 | zauruslover | yup |
| 21:13.20 | zap-zero | anyone knows a good gps navigation tool for zaurus? |
| 21:13.34 | zauruslover | treke : uh oh ... there we go |
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| 21:13.41 | zap-zero | i recently got my gps mouse and wanna experiment a bit |
| 21:13.50 | zauruslover | gps mouse ?? |
| 21:14.03 | ivan | a mouse with a gps device instead of an optical sensor |
| 21:14.07 | zap-zero | serial gps device |
| 21:14.07 | treke | zauruslover: until someone writes a avantgo reader, you are kinda screwed |
| 21:14.17 | ivan | that sends its location via bluetooth to the computer |
| 21:14.17 | zauruslover | treke : hmm ... |
| 21:14.29 | zauruslover | ok |
| 21:14.29 | treke | uh, that seems useless |
| 21:14.33 | zap-zero | it's not really a mouse, just a gps thingy for rs232 |
| 21:14.53 | zap-zero | 'cos my cf slot is occupied by wlan |
| 21:14.56 | treke | hehe. Didnt think the GPS system could handle that resolution :) |
| 21:15.01 | *** join/#zaurus simcon (GB_Harry@dial81-135-75-38.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 21:15.16 | kergoth | damnit, i hate it hwhen i forgot my pass, and get locked out of something I *really* need to get into today |
| 21:15.19 | kergoth | :\ |
| 21:15.35 | dougheckaa | heh |
| 21:15.42 | dougheckaa | I dont USE passwords! :P |
| 21:15.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:15.55 | kergoth | i have 6 passes i use regularly, and 4 usernames |
| 21:16.02 | dougheckaa | wow |
| 21:16.05 | kergoth | so 24 possible combinations, and they lock you out after 3 |
| 21:16.08 | kergoth | my odds arent good |
| 21:16.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:16.18 | simcon | hi, i have a question: is zaurus popular in countires other than english speaking ones? |
| 21:16.25 | zauruslover | :)) |
| 21:16.29 | treke | if its your online banking password, we can help you :) |
| 21:16.31 | zap-zero | simcon: yeah, in germany it's quite popular |
| 21:16.37 | kergoth | simcon: considering sharp is a japanese company, i'd have to say the answer is yes |
| 21:16.46 | simcon | zap-zero: great :) |
| 21:16.53 | kergoth | they sell in japan for gods sake |
| 21:16.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:17.05 | treke | the question is, is the zaurus popular in non japanese speaking countries |
| 21:17.07 | simcon | i wanted toknow because of creating games with multi language support |
| 21:17.11 | zap-zero | japan is obligatory :) |
| 21:17.19 | zauruslover | hey you C700 owners out there ... does the NetFront browser have a "Save"/"Save As" option unlike the earlier Opera ? |
| 21:17.32 | simcon | well my japanese isn't good but my german is :p |
| 21:17.47 | zap-zero | simcon: well, i think for games english is mostly enough, if it's not something like a text adventure :) |
| 21:17.47 | zauruslover | or even the Konqueror for the Z (does it work on the C700 though) ? |
| 21:17.59 | treke | konq doesnt have a save as option |
| 21:18.06 | simcon | ok thanks |
| 21:18.16 | zauruslover | duh :( |
| 21:18.32 | mspencer | Netfront also doesn't appear to have a save or save as option. |
| 21:18.35 | treke | we so need qt3 |
| 21:19.05 | zauruslover | hmmm ... so you can't save web pages and the like then with any of these browsers .. too bad :) |
| 21:19.07 | zauruslover | :( |
| 21:19.18 | dougheckaa | wget is all you need |
| 21:19.23 | mspencer | lemme see if you can do that with links... |
| 21:19.39 | zaurushater | :) |
| 21:19.48 | zauruslover | is this links the same as "lynx" ? |
| 21:19.48 | mspencer | It has 'save image' but that's all. |
| 21:19.59 | zauruslover | ah i c |
| 21:20.13 | zauruslover | zaurushater : are you my anti-matter equivalent ?? :)) |
| 21:20.20 | dougheckaa | haha |
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| 21:20.55 | zauruslover | man, can't wait for my IMO to reach Brett :)) |
| 21:21.08 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 21:21.13 | dougheckaa | I cant get quake to run |
| 21:21.14 | dougheckaa | :( |
| 21:21.23 | dougheckaa | says it missing a gfx file |
| 21:21.25 | kergoth | quake on the Z is unplayable |
| 21:21.31 | dougheckaa | yea yea |
| 21:21.45 | dougheckaa | how about doom? |
| 21:22.00 | zauruslover | dougheckaa : Come to Caliornia :) quakes "run" here all the time :)) |
| 21:22.04 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 21:22.25 | dougheckaa | how many 3d games are ther? |
| 21:22.27 | zauruslover | and that too "platform/os-independent" !! |
| 21:22.39 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 21:22.52 | zauruslover | :)) |
| 21:23.22 | kergoth | prboom works great |
| 21:23.32 | dougheckaa | prboom? |
| 21:23.43 | kergoth | doom. |
| 21:23.58 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 21:24.59 | zap-zero | will installing oz packages still work when i moved /usr to /mnt/card/usr and symlinked? |
| 21:25.27 | zap-zero | i guess it'll have some problems with symlinking when i choose install location sd card then |
| 21:25.34 | zap-zero | well, i'll just try :) |
| 21:26.23 | zap-zero | hmm... aqpkg won't even start now :-} |
| 21:28.31 | dougheckaa | hm |
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| 21:29.04 | kergoth | prboom is good for that |
| 21:29.15 | kergoth | "look! doom on my pda!" *oooh, ahhh* |
| 21:29.22 | dougheckaa | yea.... but most of my friends dont know what doom is |
| 21:29.30 | kergoth | point taken |
| 21:29.36 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 21:29.41 | _Psycho | dougheck i recomaand scumvm |
| 21:29.45 | zap-zero | change your friends... |
| 21:29.52 | _Psycho | put day of the tentacle on it |
| 21:29.54 | kergoth | what? you dont know what doom is? get away from me |
| 21:29.55 | _Psycho | work very good |
| 21:29.55 | dougheckaa | bleeh :P |
| 21:29.56 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:29.59 | dougheckaa | scumvm? |
| 21:30.04 | _Psycho | look good when you want to show off |
| 21:30.05 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 21:30.07 | _Psycho | scummvm |
| 21:30.17 | jshare | i couldn't get scumvm to run |
| 21:30.23 | jshare | i want to play sam and max! |
| 21:30.25 | jshare | :) |
| 21:30.25 | _Psycho | or like monkey island 3 ;) |
| 21:30.29 | mspencer | VNC and an 802.11b card is more than enough to impress most people :) |
| 21:30.32 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 21:30.42 | dougheckaa | mspencer: too bad I dont have those |
| 21:30.43 | dougheckaa | :P |
| 21:30.46 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 21:30.48 | dougheckaa | let me google... |
| 21:30.53 | _Psycho | Matrix reloaded trailer in divx |
| 21:30.55 | _Psycho | thats impressive |
| 21:31.06 | dougheckaa | heh |
| 21:31.11 | _Psycho | i never tried to see if divx work thought |
| 21:31.31 | zap-zero | prolly not |
| 21:31.36 | zap-zero | better downscale and use mpeg2 |
| 21:31.39 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 21:31.41 | zauruslover | ok guys I'm off now .. will be back later ... with lots of questions especially when I receive my C700 next week ... need to convert from japanese to English |
| 21:31.56 | _Psycho | zauruslover just flash oz over and opie ;) |
| 21:32.00 | dougheckaa | cya |
| 21:32.08 | zap-zero | oz for C700? |
| 21:32.18 | zauruslover | c ya later in the day :) ... yeah then I won't have to worry ... good idea ! _psycho |
| 21:32.21 | _Psycho | of course thats what i use ;) |
| 21:32.25 | mspencer | some people think oz isn't really complete and ready for use for the c700. |
| 21:32.35 | kergoth | it will be. |
| 21:32.37 | dougheckaa | how do I use scummvm? |
| 21:32.40 | kergoth | the keybindings are already there |
| 21:32.40 | dougheckaa | on the zaurus? |
| 21:32.51 | kergoth | autorotation will be done wtihin the week |
| 21:33.08 | kergoth | zoom mode is a bit further out. say a month at the outset, due to me moving to texas |
| 21:33.19 | _Psycho | except opieplayer2 that play mp3 too fast (ie opie bug not oz, probably kernel related). everything work flaswless |
| 21:33.21 | mspencer | btw, what packages are safe to install? Only pages newer than the kernel and rootdisk build? |
| 21:33.25 | _Psycho | of course i dont use a couples of things |
| 21:34.05 | kergoth | the op2 bug is either a bug in the OSS implementation in the embedix kernel, or a bug in op2/xine. not sure which yet |
| 21:35.02 | kergoth | I'll also be merging b500/5600/c700 support into my 2.4.19 tree in the long term |
| 21:35.11 | kergoth | which implies a lot of code cleanup, a driver rewrite or two.. |
| 21:38.44 | mspencer | oh yeah, those of you with c700's, be careful with your stylus. |
| 21:39.05 | fdask | why |
| 21:39.16 | mspencer | Drop it on a hard surface, and the plastic ends might snap, leaving the plastic "screw threaded" part of the front or back ends stuck in the stylus's metal tube... |
| 21:39.23 | _Psycho | mspencer, already bought at tungsten T sylus because you drop it from 1 feet and it broke |
| 21:39.28 | mspencer | making it impossible to dig it out and superglue it... |
| 21:39.35 | mspencer | pretty much, yeah :) |
| 21:39.53 | mspencer | got a 3 pack of them :) |
| 21:40.18 | _Psycho | Tunsten T stylus ? |
| 21:40.39 | kergoth | mspencer: broke mine. and my 5500 stylus as well, they're identical |
| 21:40.56 | _Psycho | well i cutted it a bit, but it work flawless, the quailty is so more supperior |
| 21:41.11 | _Psycho | much* |
| 21:41.11 | kergoth | I used to have a nice cross pen stylus, i want another one |
| 21:41.14 | kergoth | (lost it) |
| 21:41.14 | mspencer | honestly, I wish I could buy a replacement stylus made for the Z -- the fit was better. :) |
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| 21:41.25 | TheMasterMind1 | i need a stylus too |
| 21:41.31 | dougheckaa | me too |
| 21:41.43 | kergoth | tim gave me a stylus for my c700 when i was down for the interview |
| 21:41.43 | _Psycho | no joke get a Tungsten one, they exactly the same ;) |
| 21:41.44 | mspencer | watashi mo? |
| 21:41.47 | kergoth | hopefully i wont break it |
| 21:41.54 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 21:46.08 | dougheckaa | I need libjpg |
| 21:46.12 | dougheckaa | but I cant find it anywhere |
| 21:46.42 | kergoth | uh |
| 21:46.45 | kergoth | libjpeg is in oz |
| 21:46.50 | dougheckaa | its asking for it |
| 21:46.50 | kergoth | qt/e depends on it |
| 21:46.55 | kergoth | doesnt matter |
| 21:46.59 | dougheckaa | huh |
| 21:47.00 | kergoth | -force-depends it hten |
| 21:47.03 | kergoth | whered you get the ipk? |
| 21:47.08 | kergoth | 90% of the ipks out there are crap |
| 21:47.11 | dougheckaa | its the doom ipk |
| 21:47.15 | kergoth | built wrong, bad syntax in the control file, what have you |
| 21:47.32 | dougheckaa | heh |
| 21:47.55 | kergoth | you shouldve heard ben bitch when he was maintaining the zz feed |
| 21:47.58 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:48.00 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 21:48.01 | absentiaW | re |
| 21:48.07 | mspencer | Give it the RPM treatment then. "IPKG SUX0RS!" ^___^ |
| 21:48.10 | kergoth | or ask pendalar, he knows what im talking about too |
| 21:48.18 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 21:48.59 | dougheckaa | bah |
| 21:49.06 | dougheckaa | lame lame lame ipkg |
| 21:49.13 | dougheckaa | same error like all the others.. |
| 21:49.15 | TheMasterMind1 | dougheckaa: i agree |
| 21:52.39 | Neo|Work | oh shit |
| 21:52.43 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:52.49 | Neo|Work | I need to get a version of SA sent to handango by end-of-day |
| 21:52.57 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:53.11 | Neo|Work | or actually, a key is enough |
| 21:53.21 | Neo|Work | kergoth: can you do me a favor? :) |
| 21:53.52 | kergoth | possibly, i'm busy digging through my inbox at work before i leave digi |
| 21:53.53 | kergoth | whats up |
| 21:53.55 | Neo|Work | or anyone - download and install http://eongames.com/downloads/strategic-assault_1.8.6.zip |
| 21:54.01 | Neo|Work | and make sure there's audio... :) |
| 21:55.18 | mspencer | winamp says it doesn't recognize zip files... *hides* |
| 21:55.19 | Neo|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.25 | ChipX86 | I can test that |
| 21:55.25 | Neo|Work | and I have no time to wait till tonight |
| 21:55.34 | ChipX86 | but I only have OZ installed |
| 21:55.36 | Neo|Work | mspencer: doh |
| 21:55.45 | kergoth | i dont have my headphones here, course i could see if it plays out the buzzer |
| 21:55.46 | kergoth | heheh |
| 21:57.24 | Neo|Work | I haven't fixed anything to work with the buzzer.. |
| 21:57.31 | Neo|Work | ChipX86: OZ should be fine afaik |
| 21:57.40 | ChipX86 | preparing to install it |
| 21:59.07 | ChipX86 | bah, my battery's practically dead.. the Z doesn't seem to want to turn off when tkcCalendar has an alarm up, and I didn't notice until now |
| 22:01.10 | hExML | yo quiero taco smell |
| 22:07.21 | ChipX86 | Neo|Work: sound works fine |
| 22:08.30 | Neo|Work | ChipX86: ok, including sfx? |
| 22:08.56 | ChipX86 | I'm only hearing the background music |
| 22:09.46 | ChipX86 | set it to just sound effects, and I hear nothing |
| 22:10.38 | ChipX86 | oh nm |
| 22:10.55 | ChipX86 | never played this before. I figured I'd hear sound effects when I moved a jeep or something, but I definitely heard myself getting shot and and dying |
| 22:10.59 | Neo|Work | hmm, so sfx or not? :) |
| 22:11.01 | Neo|Work | ah, no |
| 22:11.03 | Neo|Work | shooting yes |
| 22:11.58 | Neo|Work | at some point I should test out SDL's distance/angle feature (i.e 2D positional audio) |
| 22:12.02 | ChipX86 | I think I'll finally have to purchase this. It's been on my list |
| 22:12.08 | ChipX86 | cool :) |
| 22:12.36 | Neo|Work | it would be very benefitial for SA but would require that all sfx play commands comes with a location |
| 22:12.41 | dougheckaa | what is that game? |
| 22:13.36 | ChipX86 | Strategic Assault |
| 22:13.54 | ChipX86 | Neo|Work: did you compile SDL yourself on the PC for cross-compiling, or did you grab an arm deb or something? |
| 22:14.30 | Neo|Work | ChipX86: the SDL is a stripped version I compiled myself (i.e no video support etc) |
| 22:14.35 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 22:14.45 | ChipX86 | you don't have SDL_image though |
| 22:15.16 | ChipX86 | I compiled SDL_image for use with BilliardZ (png files), and I thought I compiled libpng statically, but it's getting all upset on OZ, since it uses a different version of libpng |
| 22:15.26 | Neo|Work | I don't use SDL fo graphics |
| 22:15.29 | Neo|Work | s/fo/for/ |
| 22:15.54 | kergoth | ChipX86: sdl_image is in the oz feeds |
| 22:15.59 | kergoth | ChipX86: built from recent cvs |
| 22:15.59 | Neo|Work | and linking staticallly == probably doesn't help since libqte most likely is as well |
| 22:16.02 | kergoth | iirc |
| 22:16.30 | ChipX86 | ok. I have to release a new version of that one of these days anyway.. I'll fix everything then |
| 22:16.33 | ChipX86 | been too busy with gaim |
| 22:17.24 | Neo|Work | Strategic Assault is one of three finalists in "Best Game". I wonder what the others are |
| 22:18.24 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 22:19.04 | ChipX86 | dougheckaa: that's a sure-fire way to get one |
| 22:19.27 | dougheckaa | yup |
| 22:19.38 | dougheckaa | ooh, music |
| 22:20.35 | dougheckaa | cool game |
| 22:21.05 | kergoth | hrmph |
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| 23:21.11 | ivan | what's mazingo |
| 23:21.17 | ivan | it sounds like manzanar |
| 23:21.25 | fliplap | supposed to be like avantgo |
| 23:21.36 | fliplap | but it isn't, its just poorly written and poorly supported |
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